2017/02/25: Jordan Peterson: Postmodernism: How and why it must be fought
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2017
- This is a clip from a 2017 Manning Centre Conference (February 23-25 in Ottawa), where I spoke along with Professor Gad Saad and John Carpay, President of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms about the political turmoil on university campuses and in broader society, and the role of postmodern theory in producing that turmoil. The full clip is here: • Censorship on Campus |...
I'm indebted to the UA-cam channel Philosophy Insights for cutting this clip.
A transcript is available here: www.realclearpolitics.com/vide... Thanks to Tim Hains for that.
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Me: how was your day?
Jordan Peterson: I would like to recommend a book.
Chase Mallard Good afternoon.
Charles Lewy I would like to recommend a book
Chase Mallard - A certain level of Chaos has invaded the boundary of my living space.
Disappointed tbh.
Peterson after sex: "So um... I would like to recommend a book."
Inigo Montoya - "I'll read your book. IF you beat me in the dominance hierarchy and remove the neo-marxist post-modernists mumbo jumbo from future comments."
Peterson responding to himself after having self with his doppleganger.
If we ever needed this guy, it's now... he's been warning about our current issues for years
Start a garden, start a community garden, then start a community co-op/saturday market. Build yourself and others around you up. If we all did that we'd all be more self sufitant and less prone to suffering in that regard. We gotta become like 60s hippies or mormons but the message is self suffiecentce and responsibility, and peaceful trading. It starts with us, ie us, (the individual).
From the fruits of your labor (effort) , you shall be prosperous/bountiful.
Him. And Murray Rothbard. And Ludwig von Mises before both of them.
@Jorge yeah it's best to gain as much insight as you possibly can. That's the problem with society these days, people are too quick to come to a conclusion and pin their ideologies to whatever mast they see as appropriate at the time. But we all need to reflect and question whatever loyalties we have, just in case we are seeing things through too tight a lens
He is fighting a ghost, he is fated to fail.
He gave a meaning to a meaningless irrational tendency of today.
For anyone who has read and study the themes he refers too he is only speaking nonsense (if not idiocy), but he construct a story that makes sense of the nonsense today.
A classic fool, he will absolutly fail in his crusade.
I was nihilistic till I found Dr. Peterson, whenever I feel like giving up I always come and watch the videos and enlighten myself. Every video is worth watching. Thank you so much
Thank goodness, somebody who is willing to debate! I'm so glad you weren't too far gone.
Dr Peterson made me realize that nilhilism is an easy way out of personal responsibility. You have one life on this earth, and I don't care that "nothing may be real", since from human prespective it looks real enough.
Here watch this and call me in the morning. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjmtNXpyobmAhVRtHEKHZZRCLcQwqsBMAB6BAgKEAU&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov We will get you out of Peterson's cult.
@@MrGoblin1000 the link has nothing. You're seriously idiotic if you think Dr Peterson should not be able to influence people.
You don't understand "true" nihilism, instead, what you came out of is the normie version.
"You dont apologize and you dont back down." He is so much more a leader than what we have in politics right now.
I have been thinking this for about 4 months now.
@Tom Jones it actually isn't. Those people aren't there to conversate or debate. They are there to win, and any form of apology will deem whatever you say for the rest of your life as wrong until you agree with them. Then they can say I told you so for the rest of your life while completely forgetting what they told you because all they care about is the fact that they won.
@@TheWorldWithin27 Correct. You can apologize to reasonable people. You can't apologize to far leftists, it only enrages them.
@Tom Jones Apologizing when you do something wrong is absolutely fine. What you don't do is apologize to people who just want to shame you into submission for nothing other than to feel a sense of power, people who are not genuinely interested in having a civil dialogue and getting to the bottom of the issues.
@Tom Jones Apologizing when you do something wrong is absolutely fine. What you don't do is apologize to people who just want to shame you into submission for nothing other than to feel a sense of power, people who are not genuinely interested in having a civil dialogue and getting to the bottom of the issues.
Come back peterson, this country needs you
The whole world needs him
He has finished his work for us. He has layed out the framework for us to win the war.
He is back see his podcast with his daughter Mikhaila
@@samchaloner1472
"Back" in very limited capacity. He and his family have been through a lot, it'll be a while before he provides us his intellect on the current ways of the world.
This man has equipped us enough to counter the Marxists. He needs as much time as he needs until he’s ready to return.
This is one of his best, or rather, his most important.
He's just fuelling all polarisations !!
@@lisazorro979 Rightly so. The post modernists are a existential threat.
@Lisa Zorro...PostModernists contributions: resentment arrogance deceit...you disagree?… can you offer anything beautiful PostModernists have generated? (I am truly interested) #JBPbEL🦐
I used to identify with the postmodern philosophy a few years ago, and Jordan Peterson helped center me.
Bajoinks he went all in on this one. Time to rethink.
I'm 24 and I've never really had a father figure around past the age of 1. I haven't even known of Peterson for more than a year, but since I've discovered him I can scarcely describe what's happened to me intellectually. He's taught me so much about my self... Not complex ideas really .. but that makes it so much more profound.. the simplicity of so much of it. I can't say Peterson is fulfilling the roll of a father for me, because you be truthful, I have no idea what that means. The precisness that I fall into the typical male viewer that he describes is somewhat startling really.. when he was talking about longing for responsibility, it's as thought he were talking specifically to me. Peterson is the north star in a midnight desert of nihilism.
I can relate
Hey Evan, I feel the same. How do yu feel now, three years after posting this? How has your life changed? More incredible comments on how Peterson keeps positively influencing your life? Genuinely interested because I discovered him just a week ago and I'm in awe. Thanks.
Whats author or philosofer has you read in deep who you consider nihilist ?
What do you think about petersons thoughts on postmodernism?
Yeah I relate. I love freedom and my mom is the best, but she's always allowed me to escape responsibility and duty .. so I've come to a realization that I'm hella spoiled and now that I'm 21 I'm desperately trying to be more disciplined bc I know that the lack of responsibility is the only thing that is standing between me and my ambitions. But every time I try to be more disciplined and dutiful I fail (also, I was diagnosed w adhd this year and now I truly realize that my whole existence is basically a recipe for chaos), I have been quite nihilistic for a long time and the whole culture war thing made me question if pursuing higher education is even worth it (especially when I struggle so much in academic institutions w my lack of responsibility). Watching him makes me want to try again every time I fail. God may be dead, but my will is not lol
Jordan Peterson: one of God's mercies upon this world.
Give Peterson some credit. He's a compassionate, thoughtful man. God has nothing to do with it. He could have done numerous different things to help "this world" and he's up there in the ether somewhere with his thumb up his ass. God's dead. Jordan's at least stuck his neck out for us thank goodness.
@Annabel Lee, It’s weird that you see something good in the world and say “God didn’t do that,” but see pain and say “Where is God?” Besides, I give Peterson lots of credit, too.
@@nope24601 People make the huge mistake to believe that God own us anything.He own us nothing.People itself dosent care what God think,and what he want.We deserve the World we have builded.
@@annabellee2703 Well. It’s worth reading up on some church figures like Aquinas and their beliefs, or scholars of other religious belief systems. The good points to gather from theologians broadly is not much different than from better philosophers in history, and that’s at least in part to identify how nihilism has ways of being pretty invasive to human thought and perception. Too much of it is not good, and it robs from motivations that are to aspire towards meaning, and to create meaning. Some awareness of pain and identifying with painful experiences does make sense; but it’s not a good way to encapsulate one’s whole outlook on existence and of being.
I agree. Oddly enough.
stop reading this and clean your room
YES
NEVER! I thrive in the chaos! huehuehe
marko cinut The creatures are welcoming you , wonderer ! Now every word you speak , counts ! Careful ! Be very careful !
Does this means Cleaning Maids are the smartest?
get on my level, I just cleaned my house.
Shit... Peterson providing us 20+ year olds with the type of father figure we desperatly needed but didn't have.
Otto Frinta true, indeed
relatable
yep
Man westernism has completely destroyed parenthood. Peterson for motherfucking president.
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Unfortunately, only a small part of people really listen to what he's saying.
we here
Share it with everyone you know
sad
@Jean Jeudi He does. Very well. I do as well, independently. You just need to study it to see.
@Jean Jeudi if you do not think that Dr. Jordan peterson does not understand what post modernism is, then what do YOU think that post modernism is?
But whatever your answer is please don't try and be supportive of marxism, it has been proven far to many times to be a murderous nightmare for civilization to the extent that I would say that being tyrannical and murderous IS the primary goal of marxism, because that is always the outcome of it.
Im 38 years old, have 2 children and consider myself a metal head… does anyone else well up with tears almost every time when listening to Jordan Peterson? Lol
He literally inspires me to tears.
No for me. I'm probably about 10 hours into his discussions and videos in the past week. Trying to catch up and understand the perspectives of those I haven't been exposed to. I spent the first several hours agreeing with everything he had to say, but now I seem to be finding more content that doesn't seem to make logical sense.
Anyway, I'm only replying because I'm a dad with 2 kids too and I just felt your comment was really sincere.
there was one that really struck an emotional cord with me and that was professor peterson's talk on existentialism and existential crisis.
@@anirudhanmenon2212 I'll check it out
36, no kids but a fan of extreme metal. I find Peterson himself to be pretty interesting but alot of the time his fans are offputting. I agree with him sometimes but this video almost makes me cry to think that some people would not understand how inaccurate and biased it is.
@@stevenewsom3269 i hesitate to ask, but inaccurate in what way?...
Watching this while cleaning my room.
Are you also sorting yourself out?
Murray Illman That's exactly true here as well, what a coincidence
indeed
Can't somebody else do it...?
Ah, if only it were that simple.
Thank you, so very much, for doing what you do and sharing what you know and being who you are...you are making a difference in countless lives, including mine. Thank you for expanding my mind and my understanding, so I can more consciously participate as a creative force in shaping the future I'd like to see as an outcome of this current chaos.
My son, who is finishing his second year of university, recently told me about a friend of his who likes watching Dr. Peterson's videos. I told him to get some beers and buddies together to watch and discuss. These are complex topics and it takes practice to discuss them fluidly. They are music majors. So I hope they include on their watching list the interview with the classical composer.
Jordan B Peterson Professor Peterson, thank you very much for everything. I'm 22 years old college student and thanks to your videos I have found responses that my parents could have never give me in a lifetime. Thanks for teaching me the meaning of life and how to be a good individual in society. You are the mentor and the father I have been looking for my whole life.
Jacqueline Rendell in
Jordan B Peterson ....I will, Dr. Peterson- I absolutely will. I'm living more truthfully now than I ever have and am realizing the gifts that accompany a life rooted in integrity: more clarity and peace of mind which evokes the power to act with intention rather than from reactive fear, the magic of timing to manifest good things and to meet kindred spirits, a deeper appreciation for the complexity and beauty of life, and a greater ability to surf the faster-moving momentum that's leading me to where I want to go...the Truth really is the antidote to Chaos.
As a current student of a CSU (California state university), when JP said to take those positions of influence and responsibility to wake these other students up from their trance of PM(postmodernists), I personally accepted that as a challenge...
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Bless you in that calling Mr Diaz.
What do you think about his take on postmodernism?
Great. Nail it Alex. Have you been following MITs Babbling Beaver?
Were u doing politics?
I've never been more eager to listen and learn since after I discovered Jordan Peterson.
Just remember that he doesn't know sh** about postmodernism.
Feel the sort within.
Let the sort flow through you!
Clean your damn room, Fyo!
S O R T
Y O U R
S E L F
O U T
ROUGHLY SPEAKING
MAN
you are JBP's spirit animal
Hello there Fyodor! Glad to have you with us
In 20 years we'll look back at this video, and we'll look back at this man as the genius that told us what was coming.
One of the greatest minds and voices of our time
This is probably the closest to Nietzsche level we will get in our time. Who else will do it? Duncan Trussel? Theo Von? Rogan was onto something.
But this man has studied hard. Hard as fuck, lol. And it shows. Jung, Dostoyevski, the existentialists, Hitler's Germany, the Simpsons, magic mushrooms, music, whatever art he has hanging in his house, ON and ON. Point me to a man who is this much on it; who takes things one by one out of the realm of the unspeakable. You see how this little party trick took a toll on the man's fucking brain.
He has the intellectual fire that lights your soul. Its meaning. THIS is what you need to criticise when going after Jordan B. Peterson.
This is the most urgent work I'be ever seen him do.
He goes after all institutions we hold valuable. He is ringing a bell as loudly as he bloody can. It is something you need to look at very carefully if you want to enter the public domain, whether that be politics, education, or studentism.
Not because he is right about the things he says per sé, let's be critical first and foremost, but because he attempts to articulate a very complicated social dilemma. And quite frankly, that is relevant for almost everyone. If you can understand my writing, then yes, this is probably very important for you to watch, analyse, however your pretty little brain like to deal with this sort of thing. Lobi.
On the topic of meaning, his daughters name is M.A.P., which I link to Maps of Meaning. Don't know about intention, but hey, its funny. Check out her podcast btw! Absolutely KILLER personality and intelligence. You'll be able to find it with no problem.
Okay, that's enough writing for now. Let's listen again, this time I'm taking notes.
If the marxists dont delete his content.
Just because the message is basically - "live in integrity, make your bed, and pull your socks up" doesn't necessarily equate with "the greatest mind." Sometimes what we need is a good father or a drill sergeant, but that is different from "a great mind." Read a bit on the IDEA of pre-modern, modern and post-modern, and then rewatch this.
And then the ostriches of the future will still not believe it is coming to fruition and those that do, will still say that he was wrong for his time. How many people warned us about today thirty years ago and of those, how many are acknowledged? When the naysayers finally do come around, they pat themselves on the back for being so enlightened to be the only people today to see what is happening and completely ignore the fact that it’s been said for decades.
It's funny because Peterson is such a bad philosopher, it is not even funny.
He doesn't know sh** about what he is talking about. He will not be remembered one second by academics in the philosophy field. The mere thought is ridiculous. It's like a toddler claiming he can explain Hegel with punching in the air. It is that bad.
The only thing am grateful for on UA-cam, is You Dr. Jordan Peterson!
These words are needed today more than ever.
You have my sword.
Dlucks and my axe
Dlucks and my broom!
and my stick! RRREEEEE!!!!
Turd Ferguson Behold, it is the Stick of Truth and with it you shall divide the deep from the deep, enter the depths of the waters and return with The Valuable Thing and then have dinner at Shakey's with all your friends, the Paladin, the Wizard, the Fighter and the Jew.
And my bow.
This is one of the best short speeches I've ever heard
What do you think about postmodernism?
I love your passion here !! Refreshing, intelligent, beyond deep, clear minded and very comforting. I didn't think anyone this right on existed. I just can't get enough of your talks. Thank you Dr Peterson
What do you think about his take on postmodernism?
God Bless You Jordan! I have loved watching you for so long and you just keep getting more magnificent, more passionate and more resolute. Thank you! You are a TRUE LEADER!
Jordan B Peterson. I am an undergraduate in philosophy and psychology in Denmark, and I've recently discovered you. You speak with such an intensity, honesty, and a passion which captures the attention of millions. Every word you utter and every sentence that flows out cuts like a razor through the fabric of post-modernism. You inspire me as an academic and a human being. I am grateful for your work and your uncompromising courage. Thank you.
PS. I recently stumbled upon a person who told me that she is drawn to conflicts (lived abroad in a war-conflicted area where she studied), and furthermore in an unrelated topic described herself as a 'black ship' in a world filled with 'personas', so to speak. A seemingly whole and wellbalanced person though. I tentatively concluded she was drawn to chaos, and I wondered how this might relate to some of your ideas about mythology and/or the ideas of Jung? I haven't started digging in the universe of Jung yet, or yours in a sufficient manner, although I am planning on starting reading your 'Maps of Meaning' this summer.
Denis
as a philosophy undergraduate you should be able to spot the tripe he spouts.
@@stewartellinson8846 I concur. A lot has happened in 5 years :D
Hvordan tager man en bachelor i psykologi og filosofi i Danmark? Hilsen en der er vældig interesseret i at starte sådan en
Wishing I had had an influence like this in my younger life. As an American male approaching 40, raised by women and never pushed in the right direction(s), it's quite difficult to course-correct...though I am definitely trying. Being a left-leaning centrist, (that's alt-right, neo-nazi, patriarchal, colonialist oppressor, or so I'm told) I've found myself being more and more at odds with what the "left" promotes, and it's been listening to Dr. Peterson's speeches and lectures that has put it into focus. I might not always agree politically, but I'd rather listen to someone I disagree with that actually makes me think and re-evaluate myself and form actual, coherent reasons WHY I disagree than to be told what I agree and disagree with by some mindless zealots. Trying to get better at cleaning my room.
welcome to the club! There is yet a loooong journey in front of you, many more red pills to swallow, take your time and continue to ask right questions. There are lots of great youtubers to help you along the way, JP being one of them. Godspeed!
Turn that negative experience into wisdom and pass it on. I am in the same boat though younger, and I don't plan on forgetting how it took 25 years of my life before someone told me about responsibility.
+White Patriarch
While I appreciate the comment, I'm a pretty "red-pilled" fellow. I don't see myself becoming more right-wing, if that's what you are implying. It's been more of a realization of what liberal(ism) is, where it comes from, what it actually means etc. I'll still always be more socially liberal than what an actual American conservative would allow for, I think. However, I'm a huge supporter of individual rights and I also see the necessity of having both sides and a strong and active center for things to operate the way they need to. Now, as the radical fringes of the left drag it further to the left, I get more let's say "accusations" of being right wing, though my actual political stances haven't changed all that much over my adult life. Rather, JP has (along with others of differing political leanings) succinctly distilled my overall disapproval with the social justice/feminist movements. I'll also credit him specifically with being the first person in the almost 20 years since I left Christianity to speak of the Bible in a way that is interesting, intuitive and productive. I'll never re-affirm my faith, as it were, but having another angle or lens to view it from outside of the "religion was created to control people" framework has been quite refreshing. Also, I'm having insomnia at the moment so I apologize for the length and "rambling" contained here.
+Sentient Viscera it all depends how you define "right wing". My stance on left VS right is that it's "rights" VS "responsibilities" just like JP said. Now if you put it like that, West has reached the Left pole - every route you take from here is to the right :) West is collapsing because no one wants to take responsibility for anything, all they want is more rights and more stuff. New right (non religious one) doesn't want to take your rights away (negative ones, positive ones need to go) but want you to take responsibilities for yourself and for society so it can continue to provide you with those negative rights. You are only free as much as your surroundings allow you to be free. Individual in Afghanistan is not free at all, by Western standards. We need to defend our civilization so we and our children can remain free, by Western standards. No other civilization will grant us that, Islamic one least of all.
Sentient Viscera I personally find no issue adhering to economic and social progresivism without following Cultural Marxist nonsense. Peterson to me hasn't pushed me to the right, he just made me smarter.
Mr Peterson:
I'm French, I can confirm that postmodernism is exactly as you described it, and has very deep, far reaching consequences on a society's make up. The suffering it causes, and the callousness of its supporters simply reduces individuals as a means to an end.
Critically important is to understand how such nefarious ideology sips into every layer of a well meaning-society. It targets the family nucleus, first with children through prolonged, slow indoctrination, turning them against their parents, whenever this fits a political agenda. At some point, parents are forcibly stripped from their primary educational responsibilities, either by law, or by conceding *willingly*.
I am not sure how this will unravel in Canada, but be sure they will find a way to legally remove children from their parents, on a motive they will claim is abuse. Once this happens, their grip on society becomes almost impossible to counter.
As you pointed out, and looking back to what happened to France, and what's taking place in the U.K. and Germany, the first step is to tie scholarships in social science to the number of students who actually find a job. It's a mafia, go for the money, so they can't build an army of radicals leaving on tax payers ' expense.
The second step, is to never consider postmodernism as a battle between right and wrong, or ideas. It's an authoritarian power grab. That is its nature, its reason for being. Discussion is pointless.
The last step, is to call out on conservatives and sternly remind them what their primary duty is: fight, because it is a fight, for those individual rights that are freedom of speech, and private property, two fundamental rights upon which all freedoms depend. *Until everyone is a free man, no one is free* is the reason slavery was abolished by conservatives, not by leftists.
If all else fail, the law (or what's left of it) is what can protect against abuse of power, Conservatives must unite, and fund litigation whenever and wherever individual rights are abused. It's not the habit of conservatives to act as grassroots activists, but there is no other choice.
Today, as the French have elected a new president, state of emergency laws in place since 2015, and curtailing freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, which were meant to last for a limited time, will soon be part of the French penal code.
If the bill passes, someone's home can be searched without warrant, freedom can be curtailed without the supervision of a judge, and an individual can be placed under arrest without indictment.
I understand few of you can believe it, but remember this, they will go for the most fragile, most vulnerable first. Slow, pervasive child indoctrination.
Good luck.
how is postmodernism authoritarian in any sense
@@charlieyates99 When nothing can be deemed objective truth (postmodernism) power is all that remains.
David Edwin i think you misunderstand the point of those words, but yeah technically right.
I felt motivated reading that
Postmodernists should be as skeptical toward Marxism as toward any other canonical belief system. So in that sense marxist are using postmodernism as a disguise to create their own narratives.
The more Jordan Peterson talks the more I like him.
What do you think about his take on postmodernism?
this man quenches my thirst.
Yep, check, name fits.
Try this ua-cam.com/video/MZ-3EHfxKdU/v-deo.html Best interview ever on this subject, Marxism, Progressivism and how evil they are, where the wee born, what they are all about etc. etc.
I had a professor that pretended to be a postmodern Econ teacher. He played the role the first class, sucked some in, and crush them in debate. It was funny, sad, and terrifying.
Holy cow that's brilliant
shit that sounds like it would make a good youtube video lol
MBA students were sticking up for Hugo Chavez policies as Venezuela was collapsing. One student said "socialism's heart is in the right place." I dropped a couple hammers, but he dropped the truth bombs. There's a lot misinformation behind postmodernism with the vast majority. Like JP says learn how to Think, Write, and Speak and you are deadly. Not all professors have forgot.
Thats a great statement about socialism's heart being in the right place. The people that support socialism only see the helpful inclusive side of it. That's why saying socialism is evil will never convince them to change their mind. Honestly though I dont think the ideas of socialism are evil or dangerous themselves. If you think about it families work on the ideas of socialism. The thing that gets dangerous with socialism is the centralized authority. The real evil in any system is centralized authority, if the world is going to be saved its centralized authority that we must defeat.
+Matt Good VS bad system is poor argument to fight against the left. Leftist are into socialism because of "feel good" emotions it brings with it in the first place, you can't convince them otherwise. But what you can do is to ask "What works?". Socialism doesn't work. Feminism doesn't work. Totalitarianism doesn't work. Social justice doesn't work. EGALITARIANISM DOESN'T WORK. Only thing that works is meritocracy, proven over and over again. It maybe doesn't "feel" right but it sure as hell works and brings benefits to EVERYONE, even the poorest slob amongst us. There is your winning argument.
12 minutes of pure gold.
Jordan Peterson is one of the greatest teachers of all time in my opinion. I only wish I would have found his work sooner. The things he says just break me. I can’t recommend his work enough. I’m so grateful.
I have to, and I am going to fight with all my might.
❤ 🇨🇦 #ThePathBrightens✌ ❤
It is a human's duty to fight for it's own existence as an individual and as a super organism.
Pordan, I find your username inexplicably hilarious
Gross.
7:35 "The humanities and much of the social sciences has turned into a postmodern neo-marxist playground for radicals"
yes good ok
Did you know that postmodernism and Marxism have almost nothing in common? That your average Marxist is as against postmodernism as Peterson is? It’s fine if you’re against the same things Peterson is against. But they’re not all the same thing! This is intellectual laziness to the max
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they have nothing in common indeed. postmodernism by its nature is not an ideology...marxism isn't necessarily either but, obviously, few marxists utilise the theory without a socialist motive. and people who apply postmodernism aren't brains jars but people with their own values and political motives.
marxism is, roughly, a methodology, a way of analysing history, the present and likely future through the lens of class conflict. postmodernism, deconstructionism, poststructuralism - these are methods of analysing and dissecting every aspect of society from everyday speech to literature and institutions to uncover the meanings and power dynamics behind - and enforced by - them that are often overlooked or difficult to even notice. this is often useful and necesssary but sometimes there is a paranoia, an overdoing it, interpreting social-constructs in human universals, dismissing truth as a thing at all and attributing perceived truth merely to racial or class gaze, cynicism toward justice as just one group getting one-up on the rest. they're not the same thing but, clearly, postmodernist analysis is essential to deconstructing capitalist and patriarchal structures - they don't have to be. i could apply a postmodernist analysis to say how "trans women are women" is merely an expression of sympathy or pity utilising the language of truth ("are") and concepts ("women" as an actual definable if imperfect concept and not obscure "whatever this individual says it means to them" fluid to the point of nothingness) which those spouting such slogans don't really value.
but yeah marxists and left-wingers generally apply postmodernism, sometimes accurately, sometimes recklessly, excessively and often distorting whatever postmodernist theory they're using.
it's not true to say that when people use "white male" as a way to dismiss one's argument by saying you have no grasp of truth but only vested interest, or that "white privilege" stands as an interminable barrier in understanding racial politics...that postmodernist theory isn't being applied. and certainly when people use the term "social construct" as if it's an argument against believing in a thing at all? this comes from dumb people who've been spoonfed postmodernism yeah, so it's not an indictment against foucault himself...
@@philipians1635 Can you help me to learn ?
I do my daily cardio at the gym while watching these videos. Mind/body one-two punch.
Don't know where I'd be without you sir! So glad I can access your content on line! Love and respect you my friend!
At the root of any political struggle, you will always find a desire for power.
Straight out of the communist manifesto
everything is desire
fight on Dr. Peterson!
Thanks for posting all this online.
Jordan Peterson has become a personal hero of mine.
He's inspirational and devastatingly honest about everything that hurts to hear but needs to be said.
I sincerely wish him well in all his endeavors.
Watching this in 2022.
I spoke up against post modernism at school... the teachers are meeting with my parents tomorrow. I don't know what I've done....
Somebody who is more well versed in this topic than I am, QUICK! Give this man some solid arguments!
Nick Colvin Tell them to go sort themselves out and clean their rooms.
recommend a book
tell the teachers and parents to clean their rooms and stare at the dirt underneath your fingernails as if its more interesting than what they are saying
Jordan B Peterson I couldn't stand my ground. I didn't know enough. I managed to provide evidence of the wage gap being irrelevant. I probably should have prepared before hand. It didn't really matter though because they didn't want to argue. All 5 of them (my principle, my history teacher, my school counselor and both of my parents were against me.) they asked where i got the idea that feminism wasn't necessary in the US today. It was really sad. I think my parents realized they didn't know Me as much as they though they did. It was definitely weird for them. I'm not exactly sure how to explain it. Almost like they now thought the oppressors brain washed me? I really fell because I didn't know enough. I need to read more. It's the last day of school tomorrow. It was long. So much virtue signaling. I remember my history teacher telling my parents that I said that men were of more value than women in class. When in reality I just said said that they get paid more on average compared to womenbecause they work higher paying jobs and they work more! I'm only on middle school. I'm going to high-school next year. A different one. Hopefully it's better there. Man this is messy. I'm tired I'm sorry. They couldn't do anything punishment wise because tomorrow (Friday) is the last day. I think i said that earlier. But it's almost scarier.if they don't define the punishment they can do something later as punishment when I don't expect it. And then it might not stop at that because it was never set to define after a certain amount. But now my parents seem really disappointed. I don't know what to do. I might edit this later when I'm more awake and sane. I imagine that's like a mild version of drunk texting. Anyway I also have a doublethink problem that I need to sort out.
You are our modern day Braveheart! Thank you for your brilliance, eloquence, courage, and leadership. God bless and protect you and give you great favor, that mulitudes would hear the truth. Thank you, Sir.
I'm 30 years old and it has happened in my lifetime, I observed how while not changing my political ideas I have moved from a classic liberal to a conservative.
Me too. I'm liberal, but because I dont agree that there is 52 genders and new pronouns, someone might call me conservative
Thank you so much for offering such great presentations, regarding a model of how we can live our lives. I find your presentations to be extremely useful in my attempt to self monitor. I think one of your greatest skills, is the ability to directly link philosophical concepts with emotional capacity. When you explained the evil triad of negative emotions, starting with resentment, you would make speaker Ben Shapiro proud. That was a really great argument.
I'm on the left and I deeply admire both you and your work. Facts come before ideology, NOT the other way around.
I hope the sensible left wakes up again.
@@JordanBPeterson Hello, Dr. Peterson, if it is alright, can you analyze, review and critique the Postmodern Anime Franchise, Neon Genesis Evangelion, created by the renowned postmodernist animator Hideaki Anno, and give us your professional and personal view, stance and opinion on it's story, characters, themes, narrative and message?
Love what you do Dr. Peterson, keep it up! Thank you for being the light in this time of absurd logical darkness.
A True Prophet. Comeback, Dr Peterson, the world need you.
You're right Dr. Peterson. I would likely be defined as a classical liberal and I'm looking for reasons to vote conservative. Us millenials want change, well, offer me a change to the current trajectory because it's astounding watching my peers tell me how they "value free speech" while in the same breath telling me someone like milo should not be allowed to speak because of what he "represents".
Social media is mutilating freedom of thought. It seems dystopian at this point. A place where if you speak against the liberal narrative you lose friends, you lose a social voice and standing, you get deemed as a simply for suggesting that perhaps things aren't the way it's presented via mainstream media. If you say something too out of line, they will try and ruin your career. It's absolutely disgusting that freedom of speech and thought are under assault to this degree by the very (grand)children of the people who worked so damn hard to institute it in the first place.
Syl Lys I want to change the system from the inside-out. I want to bring the left back to its civil-libertarian roots. I want to make the left about free-speech again, about equal oppprtunity again, about anti-racism, anti-sexism and freedom and liberty again.
CDM_Enigma
So when are you running for a political position?
What are you doing about that?
The freedom to express ideas is the foundation of society. We've had it, it's just been dialing back slowly, compelled speech is a large roll back of rights but don't tell me i never had free speech.
I'm 17. Can't do much about political office. I actually plan on working in academia. My personality is not compatible with being a politician. I say what I think and I mean what I say. I'm a left-wing Donald Trump who lacks a filter.
CDM_Enigma there's alot more to politics than being a politician. You want to go to academia, well start with involving yourself in the student union. Take it back the student organizations from the insanity driven PC culture. pressure your school's paper to publish articles supporting the kind of thing peterson is talking about. Don't tell me you can't do anything, that's bushleague
And these blast points, too accurate for post-modernists. Only Dr. Peterson is so precise
I really appreciate how you share your knowledge in hopes to help humanity. ❤️
Stephen Hicks is a professor of mine at Rockford University! Extremely brilliant man
Conservatives watching this video, I am that classic liberal Peterson mentioned. Yes, I want real dialogue with you, and yes you need to seek us out.
I am the classic liberal too.
@@jacobmarshall5391 Can you explain what classic liberal is? I'm in England if that makes a difference
@@midable-mc2cz the one he talked about in the video.
Here, I'll reach out: can you please talk to the insane reality rejecting regressive ideologues that have taken over the left and tell them to calm TF down?
@@midable-mc2cz One who believes in individual liberty, economic freedom, limited government. Also known as "libertarian."
My room is clean but I'm still sorting myself out
Lucas Elliott Same.
that's mean you don't clean it enough
Thank you for these videos, Professor!
You light up our minds.
He darkens them with a big load of ignorance
Jordan Peterson is to be protected at all cost.
Keep pulling the curtain back, people are coming around to the dangers of this abhorrent ideology.
Sadly, it seems as though they are winning. :(
What is wrong with postmodernism?
despite all the room jokes, its true.. i actually REALLY need to clean my room
So go and do it.. three hours and its done (one hour a day also works), even the worst room. There´s no excuse, just lazyness.
You will feel much better immediatly
and I know excatly what I´m talking about ;)
RedGunBullets cleaned my room this weekend, it was awesome.
RedGunBullets me too XD
I love This man! I hope he returns soon! We need him back more than ever!
JP’s “understanding” of postmodernism and the reactionary comments below
are LITERALLY an example of postmodernism. The irony is laughable yet scary
JBP would be a good Magneto cosplayer, taking the 90s comics Magneto as reference. IMHO.
Jorge A. Gomes Funny because magneto is the SJW he plays as a victim while being a murderous oppresser.
Peterson is Xavier, he tells us do the best for everyone and don't be a helpless victim.
"Postmodernism, the school of 'thought' that proclaimed 'There are no truths, only interpretations' has largely played itself out in absurdity, but it has left behind a generation of academics in the humanities disabled by their distrust of the very idea of truth and their disrespect for evidence, settling for 'conversations' in which nobody is wrong and nothing can be confirmed, only asserted with whatever style you can muster." - Daniel Dennett
Intellectual honesty with a dash of genuine humanity mixed with a fierce sense of justice...Followed by humilty, kindness determination & courage..
We can rebuild him better stronger faster than before..Jordan Peterson will be that man....Cue music.
I am so glad I watched this video and everything in it was amazing.
I must meet this man. He’s a fountain of knowledge and truth.
This speech is absolutely fantastic full of facts, thank you Mr Peterson
Jordan is a great speaker, and at face value, everything he says seems to have a logical base. I would highly recommend that you not only read what Jordan recommends but also the literature he is criticising. While critical of a certain agenda and philosophical base Jordan definitely has his own agenda and philosophical base he is influenced by so it's important that to get a holistic point of view of these issues that you get varied opinions.
Educate yourself, and don't take everything Jordan Peterson says as fact, question everything.
Keep on keeping Jordan. I was enthralled by postmodernism in a progressive art college back in 2001 and loved Derrida (and his wild hair). I am enjoying so so much the literal deconstruction you are undertaking right now of these "post-"and the continual pursuit of it by you gives me hope.
When I watch JBP I start to understand why and how knights of old would follow their king into battle no matter the odds.
It worries me this is 3 years ago and its becoming so apparent now in 2020. JP predicting the future......
Sorted out college in mere minutes! Love you JBP you're an inspiration.
It's amazing how many people an academic can reach, influence & inspire when they talk about salient issues whilst proposing solutions & promoting individual empowerment. Peterson stands in such contrast to all the people he criticises, not simply because he is critical of them, but because he is truthful & needn't distort reality, appeal to base emotions or preach collective shaming to bring people around to his point of view.
still gotta finish "explaining postmodernism" has been downloaded on my phone for a while, this vid gives me more motivation to continue 😂
I find it ironic that Professor Peterson rightly criticizes postmodernists for being unwilling to tolerate contrary dialogue while simultaneously arguing that postmodernism should be stricken from public discourse because it is too dangerous to be taught. I also find it a bit amusing that such an obviously brilliant man does not see this fact for himself.
Great video. He goes into detail about several topics he usually only mentions in passing.
If I liked this a million times it still wouldn’t be enough. One of the greatest thinkers of all time. Thankyou sir. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou.
Who's listening to this to further understand the craziness of the current usa issue?
Jordan Peterson I NEEEED you to bring out the 3rd bible story. I'm dying here
Jordan B Peterson trying to hold it together when the man who has triggered the religious revolution and sparked your personal connection to God through his lectures and In fact most likely saved your life replies, is a physiological maze you could do a whole lecture on.
Jordan B Peterson we're with you dude
Man am I going to binge watch all the Bible Series videos when I finish my exams..
Eve davis No he doesn't. He believes in the power of the influence God has in our culture's structure, and the effect that influence has on people whether they believe in Him or not. He believes in God as a symbol, not a being. Basically the culmination of what humans have accumulated as truth over our existence. He thinks of it as an unfinished and ongoing collection also. That's a summary of what I've heard him say. Though an answer from him would be more precise.
Malicious Mudkip I think he's more or less uncertain in the being, and said it's a really hard question to answer.
Thank you for this video. It describes it perfectly. Helping people understand what is going on.
Good one. Opens your eyes, this kind of speech.
I cleaned my room. Can I comment now?
Martín Varela Did you sort yourself out?
comment then sort then comment then sort 2 min intervals 10 reps a day
Wow what an angry man who is clearly misunderstood what post modernism is. An educated man who feel threatened with the idea that by being part of a community may be more important than individualism.
I'd argue that the most important part of being a part of a community is the difference between choosing to and being conscripted to. His rejection of group identity doesn't seems to be a rejection of interest groups pushing their agendas, but of reducing people to what ultimately ammounts to a tiny fragment of who they are, be it sex, race, political affiliation or what have you. For people who embrace an enforced group identity, the only group you're allowed to leave is that of people who disagree with you. Used to be, before we started looking at the world like politicians, seeing only voter blocks, in the long distant past pre social networks, we were be able to have friends and family members we disagreed with, instead of purging our feeds of dissidents every election cycle
This is one of his best talks. Very good!
This is more than important! Keep going Mr. Peterson there are so many people behind you
Probably almost no one watching this has any idea how completely Peterson misrepresents his subject. Literally everything he presents as fact is straight up false. Marxism and postmodernism are NOT the same. Postmodernism isn’t a belief system. Postmodernists don’t all think the same thing. Put aside Peterson’s beliefs and values, which may or may not be good, helpful, whatever. His scholarship is truly deplorable.
It seems he's just taking things he doesn't agree with and puts a label "postmodernism" on it. But I do suspect it's not that simple. Could you elaborate?
I hope one day, after decades of study and self-discipline, I will obtain the intelligence that Jordan Peterson has in one pinky on his worst days.
I learn something new each time I listen to JP speak.
Thank you Mr. Peterson! On the mark!
A hero of this generation!
Really awesome! It's amazing how you lay every detail out simply and efficiently in a way that utilizes an empirical approach really cool to see someone realize the common sense approach of the Bible's moral code and values which honestly cannot be disparaged and is not matched by any so called religion! Christianity is not a religion it is the way of life and God does not and will not force us to do anything we make our own choices in which good and evil play an important role as we clash with finding ourselves and the pressures of society one can clearly see the effect that love has and champions over fear these things people need for their minds where would crime be if one had the understanding that through love anything is possible in the light you can be your highest potential there is no power in fear it is nothing and in fact caused by ones deep understanding of nothing for we all fear what we don't understand of course a healthy dose of fear for God ( for he is the only thing you should ever fear in which we find peace that nothing else could bring darkness) is a different kind of fear it's an understanding we don't get as humans that fear of the unknown is a corruption of the heart when we desire to not trust ourselves in turn bringing dissasosiative tendencies to fruit am unwillingness to create no some of us become destroyers only enlightenment can cure for through it we can only see from God who designed this a limitless dimension based in our reality a cause conformed by our choices for without our freedom to choose there is no life...
Professor Peterson, you demonstrate exemplary courage, time and again. As a citizen, and human being, you have my sincere thanks.
Thanks UA-cam for maintaining these videos.
We have to say this combination of words to ourselves and others. "We have to fight postmodernism"
I'm reluctant to ever say such a thing, for GOOD REASON...but this guy is just simply a modern hero. No. He is.
This was my first Peterson video and my life changed forever
I love this man. One of the few flickers of brilliance in an otherwise very dark horizon.....
Saint Jordan, venturing out to slay the dragon.
You mean venturing out of rehab to chase the dragon..
You can add Geography to the list of programs that has fallen to this postmodernist, poststructuralist, neo-marxist cancer of academia. I'm stuck in it right now (just one more year), but it is a slog. I receive barely-passing marks no matter the amount of evidence I provide within my assignments. Apparently what I have to say doesn't fit the ideological slant of the profs and their minions... I mean TAs. It's an outrage.
I know how you feel, I studied Geography from 2007 to 2011 and I really was stuck into ideological battles with more then half of my profs.. I even got ill while doing so and hat to quit because of this (spinal prolapse..couldn´t bear my cross anymore). Ten years ago, nearly no one believed in the necessity of what I was doing (not even my friends), because I was the only one who stood up against those postmodernist scumbag UN backed ideologue Professors which couldn´t wait to see the planet burn while talking us all into enslavement (But how dare me criticising their holyness).
But there´s still hope.
Slay them with their own weapons and dismantle their "arguments".
Check out their secret bible: "Ecoscience" by J.P. Holdren & Paul Ehrlich. Thats the source of their evil ideas.. Everything is in there, from the description of hidden population control programs (through food, vaccines, political descisions) to geoengineering.
Keep up the good fight! Have faith and Good Luck . Greetings from Germany
Hahaha it sounded like you suck at your field and got shit on by a fair grading system sorting out the weak who doesn't belong on a university ;) of course it was because the professors were spooky and and evuuul! Yeah right xD
@mobe Please do not talk about that with which you have no experience.
Rebel Millennial Did I hit the nail on the head or what? You probably didn't use real research and cite properly, and probably did sloppy work where you just postulated how you think the world works without sufficient evidence to back up your wild imaginations like any other academic noob and then when you get called out you chickened out because you are to bad to function in a place where your arrogance isn't in control :D
Again, do not talk about that with which you have no experience.
Keep up the good work JP.