Hulk Hogan Turning Heel & Joining nWo #8
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- Undertaker gives his Mount Rushmore of Wrestling Moments. Tony Hinchcliffe (Kill Tony) and Matt weigh in on Hulk Hogan turning heel and joining the nWo.
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The catalyst to WWE beating WCW in the ratings was not Austin 3:16, it was actually the WWE SUPERBOWL Commercial. If you look at the ratings history, WWE's ratings started to increase immediately after that commercial aired during the Superbowl. The Austin 3:16 promo helped but it wasn't the catalyst. But hey, that's just my opinion.
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Undertaker is a hater. He will never give any credit to WCW cause the WWE and Vince McMahon was his peeps.
It's a shame, because a real professional athlete would never piss on a moment simply because that moment didn't happen with his team.
I'd like to add my two cents and state that I agree with many other wrestlers that Triple H is overrated. If this guy wasn't part of the Kliq, which had a lot of pull in the company, and if he didn't marry the bosses daughter, he would have never gotten main even status. He's a good in-ring performer, just not a great one.
Also, I know this will be controversial with many younger wrestling fans, but Shawn Michaels is another overrated in-ring performer. To be fair, unlike Triple H, Shawn Michaels is a great in-ring performer, but IMO he is not the GOAT that everyone makes him out to be. I can think of a 100 other wrestlers better than him. I've said this a thousand times, but Marty Jannetty was a better in-ring performer than Shawn Michaels.
There is absolutely NO WAY Hogan joining NWO is not one of the top 5 moments in pro wrestling history. That was totally unexpected and turned the game upside down.
It wasn't good after a couple of months , they watered down nwo to the point it was worthless
And the fact no one knew if he was going to do the turn until he actually did it because Hogan was being stubborn Hogan
Uhmm... Who are you to say you know more about wrestling than UnderTaker??? Bruh get out of here
@@DeadBattleEditzyou are a moron if thats your logic
i think most agree on that.
"Austin 3:16 says I just whooped your ass." Was King of the Ring 1996 when Austin beat Jake The Snake.
They don't say "Austin whooped your ass" at the 3:16 mark. They're talking about putting their bodies on the line..
That's what I said I can't believe they said 98
@@shotgunchrisno bro Austin 3:16 is not a time stamp you need to watch king of the ring 96
I was just about to say 😂
i give undertaker a pass for not remembering when Austin rise
Had Hogan not turned heel and joined the nWo, the 90's boom probably would have never happened.
Yup. This was WCW declaring war on WWF (Hogan mentioned WWF several times in the promo) and subsequently kicking WWF's butt for the next 2 years.
But let’s also give credit to ECW for influencing both WCW and WWF at the time because they were running that hardcore product before both of them and sort of indirectly gave both of them the formula for change.
spot on!
@@makwabear4078they both started copying ECW in a lite or diet version however ECW copied WWC
I'm calling bs on that. Hall and nash, and when syxx came in shortly, they were so cool at the time. Hogan was just tacked on for star power, but he was just an old man trying to act cool, but was still as silly and cartoony in his approach to a bad guy as he was to a good guy. Playing air guitar on a belt was always so incredibly lame. I never knew anybody that liked the nwo for hogan
the blood dripping down Austin's face while he was in the sharpshooter is a moment for me
I just said that now I gotta delete it 😂 best moment ever
That match made Austin bro!
I didnt see that match live, but that image in the Raw intro always captivated me
Now that’s a good one
It's the moment of all time
Hogan turning heel is literally the event that changed wrestling to this day - Hogan joining the NWO and turning heel was the blueprint that the Attitude era was built off of.
Yes sir 👍.
I can see that. But... Austin's 316 promo was two weeks before Hogan turning and to me, KOTR 1996 was when it all changed..
@@olympicslam - the dates are correct but the NWO set off a firestorm and it took time for Austin to catch on with fire. Austin was still not as popular as he would become. The formation of the NWO changed the wrestling game, Austin was perfectly placed to capitalize on it later down the line.
Hogan turning heel was something we've been waiting for...for years and not expecting.
Changed for stone cold th character@@olympicslam
Taker throwing Foley off the hell in the cell then him getting back on top just to get chokeslammed through the top all the way into the ring was one of my moments 💯
Yeah couldn't believe that wasn't mentioned.
He doesn’t like that moment
That’s more of a spot than a moment. As a spot it’s the most iconic one from the Attitude Era for sure
That is the moment. Nothing comes close to that.
All other opinions are invalid
@@TheMarmara2023 Did it change the business? Nope. Good spot, will be remembered, but not a historical moment
Tony is massively underselling the Hogan heel turn, because of his unfamiliarity with the WCW product. That was the moment that kicked off the mid to late 90s wrestling boom. As soon as the nWo became a thing, WCW was on fire and never looked back. Because of the Hogan heel turn and early booking of the nWo, it forced WWF to up their game and change the way they did business. nWo's original formation is a major, major point in wrestling history. Without it, there is no WWF Attitude Era.
I swear I saw another interview where Tony claims he was more of a WCW fan too 😂 he just says what he thinks they want to hear I guess
I wrote the same thing, people forget that the Attitude era came from WCW and Hogan going to the NWO.
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I wholeheartedly agree. I had completely "grown out" of wrestling because back then, it was absolutely a kids product. Hogan turning heel brought me back. I just had to see Hollywood Hogan. I could not have cared less about WWF at the time. Aside from Goldust, the whole product just seemed like it was tailor-made for children
@@pandavelli8176he definitely seems like a suck up
Hogan joining NWO is easily top 3 for me, at least. Ill never forget the day after that happened, I was working as a commercial roofer in Alexandria, LA, and zero work got done that day. All these grown, grizzled men just stood around talking about it for hours lol. ICONIC!
🙌🏿🙌🏿 I dig it
Mark's being petty here. He don't like hulk so he's lightly burying him. Hogan turning starting started the 90's wrestling boom, and the entire anti hero thing. He sounds like a goof.
Hulk Hogan turning heel and joining the NWO is like Superman or Spiderman putting on the black suit.
dope ass analogy there, nice goin dude
Putting on the black suit and joining Lex Luthor 😂
But Spideman’s black suit was not look on as evil at first. It helped him in Secret Wars
I don't think taker is very fond of talking about Hogan quite often 😅
No one can deny his greatness, if you make a list of top great moments his name will pop up more than once.
Hogan nearly cost taker his career at the start over a fake neck injury, so taker isnt that impressed with him
@@j.vandenberg3323 Hulk Hogan Put Your Overrated Undertaker Over Twice For the WWE Championship . Undertaker did not respect the Jobber and bullied him, and he admitted this in his speech at The Hall of Fame after Vince McMahon reprimanded him. So who is Undertaker to talk about respect and destroying others ?? He didn't want to admit that the way he was holding Hogan's body was wrong. He believes that just because Hogan's head did not touch the Mat , it means that Hogan was not injured. Look carefully at how Hogan's head went down. His neck bent inward as soon as Taker got down on his knees . Taker initially tried to make KOKO B Ware look like he was exaggerating, even though KOKO's head hit the Mat hard. But he backed down after he noticed that his argument was not sufficient. Taker is a big manipulator .
@@Aizenborgman I agree with you. I think Hogan putting Undertaker over in 2002 for the second time should've been the end of it. I think Hogan does feel remorse for some of the things he did back in the day though he won't admit it, and his 2002 jobbing tour where he lost to 6 guys in one calendar year was his way of trying to make amends (I get it, he played politics again in 2005 and 06 with HBK and Randy Orton and I'm not saying Hogan is a saint.) Hogan made peace with Savage (corroborated by Lanny Poffo, so don't deny it) and Warrior (photo evidence exists.) It wouldn't surprised me of Hogan reached out to Taker and was rejected. I can get why Taker is not best friends with Hogan, but Hogan's stunt failed and had zero effect on Undertaker's career in the long term. If Bret let it go with Vince after he kllled his brother and screwed him on live TV, then Taker's bitterness 35 years later seems pretty pedantic
Nobody likes hogan.. Yes, he was a MASSIVE star & wrestling would have never blown up the way it did without hogan.. BUT, He's still a piece of shit !!
Taker doesn’t like Hogan and that’s fine, but Hulk turning heel is the most shocking moment in wrestling history. It’s top 3 all time & clears the streak by miles.
I don’t think it does too the streak though. The streak being broke was huge in its right too. My moments that changed things are different Hogan joining NWO is there but I can see why it’d be left off takers
Taker actually put two Hulk Hogan moments in the top 4, so obviously it wasn't about liking him or not.
@@joseph906 notice he said “Andre getting slammed by Hogan” & “Rock meeting Hogan in the ring”. He places Hogan 2nd in both bcuz Andre & Rock were the bigger stars in a sense.
Hogan heel turn is also greater than Rock & Hogan stare down IMO. In the history of wrestling you cannot find a crowd reaction like Hogan turning heel.
@@neosgaming1 The streak being broken didn't mean much. What happened after that?
Hogan turning heel totally upended WCW's storylines, and made WWF react in a major way and created Austin and Rock and the entire Attitude Era.
@@anonamatron yes true. it had a major impact
1. Steiner Math
The numbers don't lie.
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Literally one of the best promos ever cut probably not judged on what makes a good promo. That's how fucking insane it is. I love pro wrestling lol.
I'm really surprised throwing Mick off the cage didn't make his list. For me personally, that beats the streak break.
This comment made me question why "Streak" isn't pronounced "strake"
Like how "break" is.
That was a spot not a moment. As a spot it was the greatest one from the Attitude Era for sure
Yeah I agree.. mick off the cage is legendary
Undertaker a goat, but he is playing here… hogan turning heel was much bigger than the streak ending
@@MADM1-K3You Mean STREEK Or STREKE
If you discount Hogan turning heel and joining the nWo because of what happened after, then you're not judging the moment, you're judging the storyline. I'll put that on my top four wrestling moments during my lifetime easily.
IMO Mt. Rushmore moments are moments that impacted the business and the formation of the nWo was a pivotal moment especially in the Monday Night Wars.
Same
Undertaker just likes to act like Hogan becoming heel was not top 5 impactful moments because it didn't came from WWE. WWE guys like Vince and Undertaker can try to rewrite history all they want but anybody that lived on that era knew how huge was Hogan becoming heel.
@@petersonofleo11 might be payback for Hogan lying about the first Tombstone he took.
I was going to say, Undertaker has a long grudge against Hogan because Hogan tried to sabotage his career early one with that "you got me a little bit brother" when the video clearly shows he did not.
Scott Hall showing up at WCW through the crowd should be in the top 3.
Scott hall showing up changed the business moving forward 🔥
@@rogerphavixaysouk2168 That and Hogan changing sides. Both together really made an impact.
No doubt....Also Taker has HHDS. Hulk Hogan Derangement Syndrome.
Diffently
@@PhilTeoli hell yeah my man!
Tyson’s face to face with Austin was an underrated moment and huge in the monday night wars
That's a good one my man
@@Provos7777 It's not only a good one, it was a big one considering Bischoff said it was over when WWF got Tyson.
I remember this was on the news later that night
@@BUPMY1meh.... the merger with AOL was what did in WCW on Monday nights, it wasn't anything to do with ratings, they lost their slot because AOL wanted a more family type of channel and not all the violence. That was what ultimately ended wcw
@@BUPMY1meh.... the merger with AOL was what did in WCW on Monday nights, it wasn't anything to do with ratings, they lost their slot because AOL wanted a more family type of channel and not all the violence. That was what ultimately ended wcw
Austin 3:16 was April 96
Bret Hart vs Austin WM 13 was March 97
Right I don't know what they were talking about 98 as the start of Austin 3:16
Both moments are on my mt rushmore
Austin 3:16 was June 23, 1996; King of the Ring in Milwaukee
@@Bears86SBProbably the title win at WM14
He beat Jake then said that
Hulk Hogan has more iconic moments than anyone else in wrestling. Hogan, Flair, Vince and Foley. HHH too really.
Bleacher Report had HHH as Number 21 in their all time WWE list and I never laughed harder in my LIFE. Dude is so slept on and in his later years kept wrestling alive at Mania along with Taker Cena Michaels Orton and others
@@coleturner6906HHH was never really "the guy" though, and when he was, it became known as the reign of terror lol. I'm more partial to HHH than most, but i dont know if ive ever heard someone say hes their favorite wrestler.
@@chillpengeru I’ve heard plenty say that he is. Even though it was a “reign of terror” imo it was what the company needed at the time. He also had plenty of feuds where he put someone over too. Idk when you look at what he’s meant to that company through the late 90’s and 00’s into the 2010’s, it’s hard to argue he’s not at least Top 15. Especially when you factor in DX
@@coleturner6906 ya I think I agree, at least top 15. 21 does seem low. Love him or hate him he's very significant.
Love or hate him hogan changes the game
facts, the only guy who changed the game twice.
@@bdot187um how did he change the game twice? Vince McMahon is the reason why wrestling went national throughout the 80s.
I guess it's cool to discredit Vince then
@@bigolebot but if he didn't have the right guy to steer the ship wrestling wouldn't have became what it is today, hogan turned it from a local territory (with vince's vision of course) to the international monster it became with the hulkamania era, then 12 years later dropped the leg on Mach & kicked started the attitude era with the biggest & most influential group in wrestling which added at least another five years to his career, you can't give me another name who had that much impact in two different eras.
@@bdot187um Vince turned It from a local territory to what it was throughout the 80s, again. I don't understand why the Millennials have been fed to believe Hogan started this boom in the 80s when Vince was the guy.
Your posts about the Attitude era stuff is valid
@@bigolebot vince didn't put on the red & yellow come out to eye of the tiger/real american slam the giants drop a leg & charm not just america but the world with his undeniable charisma, like I said vince absolutely had the vision & put the marketing machine behind him...but you gotta have "HIM" to have what you got today, just like bruno laid the foundation to the federation I can't just say it was all vince senior & nobody not bruno,pedro,graham or backlund who had an equal if not more of a hand in it.
Damn Taker's recollection of Austin 3:16 sounds like Hogan telling the Wembley story about the Make A Wish kid 😭
And Michael Jackson was there…
Austin passing out to Bret at Wrestlemania was an even bigger, more important moment than the 3:16 promo imo.
The promo was the spark but that double turn was the fire.
Even Austin says that’s the moment Stone Cold was really made
Hogan turning was the WCW Austin 3:16 moment. To not have it as a major event is crazy.
Hogan turning was bigger then that
@ronm3034 i absolutely agree. To me and my friends, it was the biggest thing to happen out of the whole Monday night war.
The Austin 3:16 didn't seem like a moment until hindsight. You didn't get to see it grow until later.
The Hogan turn was an immediate impact that shook the wrestling world.
@@DrSpoculus exactly nobody was talking about that 3:16 promo when it happen lol his other moments was immediate like the beer bath or his attack on Vince in the hospital .
@@DrSpoculusyes. Austin moment great In hindsight like you said. Hogan moment was a wtf moment.
@@ronm3034WCW Fans Saw Steve Austin As Midcard Talent Best. He Couldn’t Get Over Without Drinking 🍻 And Cursing.
I think it is objective Hogan turning heel in 96 was one of the biggest moments. Regardless of all of the faces throughout time and regardless of current perception of Hogan, the Hulkster is the biggest name in the history of wrestling. Hogan beating Sheik for the WWE title in 84, Hogan slamming Andre, Hogan turning heel, Hogan’s WWF comeback in 02 when he encountered Rock- I think those are the biggest moments in wrestling.
Hogan joining the NWO has to the biggest moment in wrestling history.
While technically not a moment (though it includes 2), January 4 1999 deserves Mount Rushmore talk. That was the night of WCW giving away the ending of Raw, Mick Foley becoming Champ, and the Fingerpoke of Doom.
Hogan turning heel is the single biggest wrestling moment that I can think of from the 90s. Whilst the Rock and Hogan face off was special, there's no way that was as significant as what happened at BATB 96. That pretty much catalulted WCW to the number 1 spot over WWF/E.
My Mt. Rushmore of moments:
1) Earthquake serves Quake burgers (made out of Jake’s snake)
2) Mae Young gives birth to a hand
3) Booker T encounters Goldust at 7-11 (Man just wanted a slurpee)
4) Kane and Katie Vick
Don't forget about the debut of "The Shockmaster"
You forgot the yetay
David Arquette becoming the Greatest Champion in the history of our sport!
I was a big Kane fan. Katie Vick and Kane being unmasked -- I quit watching.
When hogan joined the NWO, it felt like the world moved. I was like what is happening. Truly monumental. 💪💪💪
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The introduction of the Red Rooster has to be up there
Rock-Hogan face off started the trend you STILL see to this day. (2 guys face-to-face for a good 30 seconds, then slowly turn their heads in opposite directions) Rock-Cena JUST did it
Hogan turning heel was the first major swerve in Wrestling history. They happen so often now that you can smell them a mile away but I must have been about 10 when it happened and it's a 3 on 3 tag match, The Outsiders have a mystery partner who's running late, time is running out on the PPV which is something people factor in these days, Hogan starts walking down to the ring, Heenan is even shouting "who's side is he on!" and in spite of all this I still thought he was coming down to help Macho Man, Luger and Sting and was genuinely shocked that he turned heel 🤣 Like it made more sense that he was going to help the baby faces and turn it into a four on two than be the third guy that everyone was waiting to come down.
😂 how did Taker get it so wrong.
Wrong year, wrong event, wrong wrestlers involved.
Not having Hogan turn heel is ridiculous.
Taker don’t give a damn about no Austin that’s why
Totally agree
1. Hogan breaks the camel clutch, becomes champ.
2. Hogan turns heel, begins nWo*
3. Montreal Screwjob.
4. Austin 3:16 speech.
Although there are plenty of towering, iconic moments (Hogan slams Andre, Flair wins Royal Rumble, Austin bleeding vs Bret, Taker slams Foley through the cage, Mega Powers break up on SNME) they didn't fundamentally change the business in and of themselves like the above events did. *Almost tempted to put Scott Hall debuting on Nitro in place of Hogan's actual heel turn.
Hogan will never be in a top 5 for the Taker as he clearly is not a fan of the guy. I say Hogan slams Andre in your list caue the hype for that was intense. I think if social media existed today and PPV would be like it is today, that Wrestlemania would have been the biggest of all time, stil lto this day. I remember even my grandparents were talking about Wrestlemania at that time.
Hogan beating the Iron Shiek wasn't a Rushmore moment. It may have kicked off an era that one could put on a Mount Rushmore but the moment itself didn't have that feeling to it that even the other ones you listed did. Those you knew in the moment were something special.
@@jaysondoak6184 no not the Sheik but Andre yes at Wrestlemania III.
@PhilTeoli to be fair he has good reason. Hogan tried claiming Taker was an unsafe worker.
@@RisingRecluse While I agree he does not have to like Hogan. It is another thing to not acknowledge the heal turn as well. It is like not acknowledging Hulk in the 80's revolutionalized wrestling an dput it on the map for many young viewers and older parents alike.
In no particular order:
- Bruno Sammartino slamming Haystacks Calhoun
- Hogan slamming Andre
- Luger slamming Yokozuna
- Snuka leaping off the top of the cage
- Roddy Piper smashing Snuka with a coconut during piper's pit
- Shawn Michael's kicking Janetty and throwing him into the window on the barbershop
- Undertaker throwing Foley off the cage to the outside
- Undertaker throwing Foley through the top of the cage to the canvas
- Dr D schultz slapping Stossel
- Honkey Tonk smashing Jake with the guitar
- Andre throwing money to the audience after defeating Big John Stud
- Yokozuna giving Hacksaw Jim Duggan multiple banzai drops and draping Jim with the American flag before his final drop
- Pappas Shango putting a curse on Ultimate Warrior (feet on fire with grease coming out his mouth)
- Stone cold standing on a beer truck while hosing down everyone in the ring
- Rick Martel squirting his arrogance fragrance in Jake's eyes
- Shawn Michaels infamous wrestlemania 12 entrance
- The 1st wrestlemania
- Road Warriors riding Harleys to the ring during wrestlemania 9
- Macho Man getting the royal treatment at wrestlemania 9
- Ms Elizabeth coming to Macho Man's aid after losing to Warrior in wrestlemania 7
- The unfortunate Owen accident
So damn many
Some great moments here, brought back alot of memories. Thank you
Luger hip tossed Yoko.
my mount rushmore of wrestiling events is when macho man being bitten by the snake,mankind being tossed from the top of the hell in a cell,hogan turned heel and joined the nwo,and when roddy piper smashed a coconut on jimmy super fly snukas head…ima big dx fan and stone cold is my fave wwf superstar
also a mention to when rowdy roddy piper smashed that album display over cpt lou albanos head
This Podcast needs to be called “The UnderTeller” cause Taker is a GREAT storyteller.
No it doesn’t
@@TL2354 your breath stinks
Hogan heel turn is my #1 Angles of all time. Even Pee Wee Anderson was clueless . I was in Deep Shock!!!!!
Austin 3:16 was 1996 king of the ring in Milwaukee WI....only reason it sticks out to me was cause i was there
Dosent help that WWE have been portraying it as austin cuts the promo stuns Mcmahon and wins the title at wrestlemania so you can see why people who were even there like Taker thinking it happened in 98
You can tell Taker has all the respect in the world for Hogan and his contributions to the wrestling business but has absolutely no time for him as a person which i completely understand why, Hogan tried to sabotage the early part of Taker's career by faking a neck injury. So for that reason alone, i don't blame Taker one bit for not speaking much about Hogan
go look how taker used to do the tombstone and then say you'll happily take it.
The man was snug even with Mark Henry. Even counting that fake neck injury out. Hogan’s entire career has been about him and his needs and anyone else is secondary. Absolutely fake human being and the lies he just makes up even to this day makes it worse. People are supposed to be humble in old age.
@@katelynnsgiraffe6456 If Hogan was that concerned about it he could have vetoed it. Faking an injury to stall a young guy's push or whatever his reasons for doing so were is very fucked up.
Never faked an injury. All you idiots who claim he did are uneducated on gravity. Hogan never said Taker dropped him on his head, he said he held him so tight so he didnt drop him on his head that when he dropped to his knees his 300lbs of weight stopping dead sent a shockwave down his body into his neck and gave him a stinger. Have you idiots never crooked your neck just from turning your head too fast? Get a clue. Taker needs to get over it, Hogan never said it was on purpose, but he clearly hurt his neck. End of story!
Who's career hasn't Hogan either sabatoged or tried to take credit for
The most pivotal moment in wrestling history was diesel and razor joining WCW and creating the nwo. Cannot be argued.
I think Kane making his debut and tombstoning Taker would probably be in my top 5 for me
Yeah ripping the door off the cage like that, Kane was on demon time
IDGAF what anyone says. You cant call yourself a real wrestling fan and deny the NWO and hogan turning heel impact on the sport. EASILY a top 10 spot in the industry. PERIOD
Top 3
Hogan's turn... changed the landscape of wrestling point taken!
100% Hogan turning heel and the formation of the nWo jump started the attitude era and turned the Monday Night ratings battle into the MONDAY NIGHT WARS
Hogan changed the entire landscape of wrestling with that heel turn. WWF changed their business model to the Attitude era, because of Hogan. Hogan made it cool to cheer for the bad guy (heel).
Top 10? Whats better than that
Austin in the sharpshooter and bleeding is THE MOMENT!
It a was a moment, THE moment for austin was when he stunned vince at msg from that point on he was the uncrowned king of the wwf.
1. Hogan slamming Andre
2. Scott Hall arrives in wcw
3. Hogan turns
4. Brock beats Taker
5. Austin 316
6. Rock Hogan
7. Austin stunning McRapist at mania 38.
8. Sting from the rafters the first time
9. Edit: mankind goes off the cage
10. Bret Hart/Michael's screwjob
Glad someone put Sting from the rafters in! That moment was legendary!
Great list!!!
@@AR_112 it was the coolest thing I had ever seen in wrestling. Still right up there.
Scott Hall was the absolute best!!!! Rip 🙏 Razor
The nWo was absolutely huge, without it, there wouldn't have been an Attitude Era.
Vince being different from WCW is what sparked the attitude era
@@tarnezlyons2903 WCW being different than WWF was the Attitude Era. If you remember, WWF was childish 💩 in 95 and was beginning to be a bit better in 96... But it wasn't until the nWo when "attitude" was decided to be needed.
This is according to EVERYONE'S account that has spoken public about it that would ahve first hand knowledge of the inside of both companies.
Come on man, Hogan turning heel is 100% a massive moment in wrestling history.
Taker throwing Foley off the cage is the number one Mount Rushmore moment in wrestling. That stunt had people that even hated wrestling love that moment
Nwo 3rd man is probably number 2 in all time moments next to Andre slam
The Andre slam is way too overhyped. He'd been slammed on TV plenty of times before, and the WWF was already on a rocket for 3 years before the slam. It didn't really change the business. The Hogan heel turn made a stale era into the hottest ticket again.
Hogan beating Bockwinkel in that Dusty finish (before even Dusty did it) was the real turning point. Hulkamania was beginning to run then. Verne decided not to run with him and Vince brought him in. That's what made the 80s huge.
@@BarbaPamino were talking iconic here. Your thinking wrestling circle, to be iconic you need to reach main stream imp. Ask general public what they know about wrestling moments. They might be able to tell you who Rock, Austin, Flair, Taker are but specific movement are much less prolific. Andre slam will stick out to people. Nwo 3rd man will too. There's only a handful of specific moments the masses will recall. Maybe mankind off the cell is another one.
@@OllieMartinGamer the masses won't recall anything. Ask a non wrestling fan anything and they'll barely know. Rocky 3 is much better known than WM3. Hogan's sextape is much better known than his heel turn. If this were the case then the top 3 moments are Hogan's sextape, Benoit killing his family. Owen Hart dying, and Vince raping his intern.
My 4.
1: Hogan turning heel
2: Austin 3:16
3: Taker throwing Foley off the Cell
4: 3-Way TagTeam TLC
Please. The DX president skit is one of the best all time
A great and impactful wrestling moment was when the Undertaker turned face on Jake "The Snake" Roberts in the Funeral Parlor. That swerve gave the Undertaker a huge boost for his popularity that never waned throughout his extraordinary career. The same could be said for when Rowdy Roddy Piper turned face on Adrian Adonis on the Flower Shop.
My Personal Mount Rushmore of Moments
1. Hogan Turning Heel
2. Mankind Winning the WWE Title
3. The Streak Ending
4. Austin 3:16
88, Yeah DX was absolutely our time. Telling the world Suck it as a little boy was crazy lmao
Yeah, im born 89 and HBK was my guy. Yoo make the rules and we will break them!
Austin 3:16 promo was the catalyst and it changed WWE forever.
The stare down between Rock and Hogan was amazing and deservedly historic, but I also think the kick out and hulk up of Hogan near the end of the match was also just fucking amazing. I don't know if I can recall a moment that captivates me as much or has the perfect blend of psychology at play in that moment than this.
The streak is not really a moment for me. Brock beating it didn’t do or change anything for anyone
In no particular order -
1. Hogan turning heel/formation of n.w.o
2. Monday Night Wars begin (Sept '95)
3. Austin vs McMahon (April '98 Raw)
4. WWF purchases WCW (2001)
5. Montreal Screw Job (Nov '97)
People seem to have forgotten that Hulk Hogan actually started his wrestling career as a heel. I have seen his earlier matches. He was even here in Memphis at some point.
Tons of moments/memories but I think the ones that really impacted the industry were (in no particular order)
-Hogan turning heel
-Austin 3:16 promo
-Montreal screw job
-Hogan beating Sheik
-Scott Hall showing up on Nitro
-Mike Tyson WM14
Born in 82, liked DX a lot but loved nWo! Definitely 4 life! And even if I wasn’t I know Hogan going heel was a big changing event for wrestling, top 5. Takers picks all go top 10(some top 5)
The most iconic move in history …Hogan is the 3rd man
When Razor came out from the crowd and interrupting the match in the ring to say, you know who I am and what I am...you want a war? You got it.. (something like that) that was definitely a top moment in wrestling
That fact that taker likes to sing random songs, makes him even more legendary, if thats possible
1. Andre slam
2. Hogan heel turn
3. Austin’s blood covered face
4. Mankind off the Hell in a Cell
Hogan been a heel to me since 92 when he pulled Sid Justice out the ring at the royal rumble
He REALLY became a heel when he stole the show and the belt in the Bret Hart vs Yokozuna match at WrestleMania 9.
@@shotgunchris Listen to the crowd reaction when he beat Yokozuna for the belt at WM9 and come back and say he became a heel that night. The crowd went fucking nuts, they LOVED IT!
Chef is totally right. Sid = the face, Hogan = the heel. I've been saying this for years. Hogan's jealousy pulled Sid out, otherwise Sid would've def won that Rumble.
@@piper727 Ric Flair was BOOKED to win you dork, wrestling isnt real! loooool
Kane's debut at In Your House: Badd Blood in October 1997 should be in the top 5 of best moments
Letterman's interview with Lawler and Kaufman could be considered a Mount Rushmore moment.
Dude in pink loved it when dx said suck it..
DX was incredible. This sounds like two guys glazing Undertaker more than having opinions of their own
In your opinion it was incredible, & a lot of other people thought it was incredible too. I personally hated DX, in my opinion a group of 30 year old's acting like 14 year old's was corny as hell.
@@Provos7777 oh so you didn't actually watch wrestling in the 90s.
Im an 84 guy and DX was the shit. Dudes off his rocker
Taker and Shawn being the last two in the royal rumble and essentially having a lengthy 1v1 match was iconic.
The formation of the NWO was huge it marked when WCW to me started to try to win the monday night war, and put WWF out for good. To me it was what got Vince to start to drop dumb gimicks like TL Hopper. Why at the 96 King of the Ring letting the 3;16 promo happen. It was WWF starting to take a harder edge like letting Bret turn heel in early 97. Before that I bet Vince would have cut the Mic on Stone Coldand would never have made Bret a heel.
The NWO to me was the ground work that would start off the WWF attitude era that saved WWF.
My top moments thought Hogan turning Heel, Sgt Slughter heel turn/burning Hogans shirt, Kane WWF debut, and Paul turning on Taker,
Tony's voice hurts
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Top 5 Mount Rushmore's of Wrestling Events:
5) Ron Simmons winning WCW Title
4) Tyson and Austin
3) Vince McMahon's "Good guys VS Bad guys" Attitude Era announcement
2) Taker throws Foley from HITC
1) Razor Ramon/Scott Hall climbing the Nitro guard rail
Kane ripping off the cage door and standing eye to eye with his brother and then tombstoning taker was the best moment I ever saw growing up watching WWE. That impacted my entire childhood and made me watch it religiously. No other moment in wrestling was as scary as that. Because we all thought Kane wasn’t supposed to be there. We thought kane was really a monster there to retire his brother.
No offence to Taker, but personally the steak ending wasn't one of the biggest moments, it was a big holy shit moment for sure, but it didn't change anything.
I agree. It was a good moment but does not rise to this level.
Yeah Undertaker clearly showing his bias. He tries to act like Hogan turning heel was not that big because it came from WCW but Hogan turning heel was the catalyst of the second wrestling boom period.
Taker turning into the aba was a bigger change, and luger slamming yoko was a bigger moment than andre hogan
I'm a 78 guy, and I loved DX. Y'all clearly were just too young to get it. It was in 96. It was before he had EITHER of his Matches with Bret. It was during the PPV, and you guys were NOT off and running after it happened. The 3:16 took a little while to really catch on. I remember, if Mark doesn't.
82 kid and when I graduated and walked the stage I was doing the suck it. It was to all the ppl that told me I wouldn't make it.
@@jeffdaigle5487yo! I graduated in 97 and I did the exact same thing.
1980 kid. I liked DX. Im pretty sure they were founded in 97. Not 96. Hbk already did wm12. Wm 13 (97) was stone cold vs btet hart.
I liked DX and got it but could only fit in that era and wasn’t anywhere near on nWos level. There is no DX w/o nWo
Yeah they dont get that in 97 this was unheard of and seen as crazy direspectful. Being close to taken off the air and honestly way better thsn the 98 to 2000 dx that would be just be saying say thing every week in the ring. Hhh, hbk, chyna and rick rude lol
I love this. Seeing Undertakers true personality is awesome. Been watching this guy since I was 9. Larger than life.
Man i appreciate stories like this.... if you grew up watching wrestling in the 90s you'd appreciate what the undertaker is doing...
I was born in 81 and I loved dX
Mt Rushmore of moments HAS to have Bret vs Austin at WM13. Changed the industry.
For sure if it wasn't for that moment SCSA would've burnt out after WM 13
That probably wouldn't have happened without nWo becoming big and causing Vince to change his own product.
Still on the Bret Hart obsession train I see
@@bigolebot stalking me or something shit? Get fucked.
Shout out to the yr 1983 kids out there still going strong and still loving wrestling 💪
To the point made at the start of the video, when Shawn and Hunter were doing their thing back in 1997, I was dating a woman who had a twelve year old son. One Saturday I ended up taking him to the orthodontist and while he was in with the dentist another kid who couldn’t been older than ten, came running out into the waiting room excited to show his mom his new black and green bands on his teeth. When asked why he chose that color, the ten year old replied “Mom that’s DX!” My immediate thought was that despite targeting the young adult male demo with The Attitude Era, DX’s audience was still very much the elementary crowd.
1 Hogan slamming Andre
2 Montreal Screw Job
3 Hogan joining the NWO
4 Own falling to his death.
I'll never get this time back.
You spend your day looking at church content. You’ll be okay. Wasting time is like your thing.
Austin 3:16 was at KOTR 96. He cut the promo on Jake when they faced off in the tournament. Later in the year at Survivor Series was when he started his angle with Bret & Mania 14 with Tyson was the end of WCWs 83 weeks.
I haven't seen ALL of these Mark Calaway podcasts, but I think this is the first time I heard Taker put himself on 1 of his Mt. Rushmore lists! I dig that!
Hogan turning heel >>> Undertaker streak
Thinking back, the 2 most memorable holy shit moments were Macho Man getting bit by the snake and Taker throwing Mankind off the cell. Iconic moments.
I think Undertaker throwing Mankind off the Cell changed the business.
Taker's Mt. Rushmore is awesome. Scott Hall showing up on Nitro was a huge moment that changed the Biz. Ya gotta have Hogan joining Hall and Nash to form the NWO in the top 3. These next few were huge for me personally.
1. Barry Windham joining the 4 Horsemen.
2. Road Warriors turning on Sting.
3. Ron Simmons winning the World Heavyweight Championship.
That pit in my stomach when Hogan turned heel. I could not sleep…😮
What an amazing moment in wrestling.
Papa Shango: Pimpin' ain't easy!
Mean Mark: Bookin' ain't easy!
Taker got the timeline wrong the Austin 3:16 promo didn't happen in 98 first it happened in 96 KOTR after he beat Jake.
Hogan becoming the 3rd mystery member of the NWO is one of pro wrestling iconic moments. NWO 4 life!!
Kids were calling each other crying when Hogan turned heel. That’s gotta be top 3 moment.
1. Hogan slamming Andre
2. Scott Hall appearing on WCW TV for the first time. "You know who I am but you don't know why I'm here". (that's bigger than Hogan's heel turn)
3. Blood dripping on Austin's face in Bret's sharpshooter - Wrestlemania 13. (Austin 3:16 didn't have a direct impact, the narrative around it was created afterwards)
I can't decide on number 4. Breaking the streak is an OMG moment - yes. But what's the impact? There is nothing to build on that. Maybe the final moments of Wrestlemania 20 are for me very very special moments, when You-know-Who and Eddie celebrated together crying. It was very very powerful.
Kane's debut is one moment that comes to my mind that changed the business forever and was huge.
Not a positive moment, but the Screwjob is also too powerful to forget.
I agree, God rest his soul 🙏 Scott Hall!!! When he came through the crowd on WCW Nitro it was amazing 👏!!! Razor
That promo was at KOR 96, before he fought Hart.