Could you please help me i am building a pc with rtx4060 is it worth of building pc with DDR5 or its good if i go with DDR4 setup is it really make big difference? if i want to do 1080p gaming only. Please reply i am confused
@@marufulislam4311 I know it's a bit late to reply but gear 2 means your memory controller runs at half of the speed of your RAM, and gear 1 means the memory controller runs at the same speed of your RAM, which greatly improves it's performance. Even tho there won't be a massive 20-30 FPS increase in every game, it certainly does help a bit.
I have multiple stutters and drops with this CPU. With this same monster GPU, it's a great CPU for older/not-intensive games/rendering since these problems seem to happen with games that are very CPU heavy and not optimized well.
I just have same issue just turn off all apps overlays like nvidia overley and turn off power consumption tick in msi afterburner you will see the magic and dont forgot xbox gamebar
I tried cl16 3600mhz ddr with my i5-12400f, and it was only stable on second gear. first gear, I kept getting BOSD when I did anything other than browsing the web. 32gb of 3200Mhz cl16 in first gear works VERY well with i5-12400f and 1% lows are good. With the 3600Mhz ram, the 1% lows were terrible and system wasn't as snappy since it wasn't really stable at that speed.
@@bleacharabs9622 I did try that, and while my system wasn't crashing anymore, 1% and .01% were still bad. But I moved on from ddr4 ram on all of my systems. Right now I'm running my i5-12400f with 5200mhz of ddr5 corsair ram, and its running excellent. System boots in 11 seconds, it feels snappy, 1% and .01% lows are good and absolutely no crashes. You can safely use up to 6000mhz of ddr5 with the 12400f. If you do go any higher though, your machine will more than likely crash.
@@rushskill3518 Dude I can't take people like you seriously. You are so quick to criticize, but don't offer any advice of your own or at least explain how what i'm saying is non-sense. I experimented with a bunch of ram on the 12400f both ddr4 and ddr5 and I'm strictly speaking from my own experience with all the Ram I tried. Nothing more nothing less. And yeah I am not that great with Ram oc, so maybe I would get better results if I could adjust the timings manually, but yeah...anyways thats all I gotta say about that. 😸
normally youd want to at least doubled the speed each gen ddr2 to ddr3 = 800mhz - 1600mhz ddr3 to ddr4 = 1600/2000 - 3600/4400 ddr4 to ddr5 then should be around 7200mhz and up
Um, not really. You want the fastest speed compatible. 12400 only supports up to 4800mhz so 7200mhz is wasting your money in this case. Unless you want to future proof.
@Waypse no this is not true. Officially the 12400 supports 4800. There may be possibilities to OC the ram upto 6000 but only with a hard clock. Stop spreading misinformation.
@KAi_i47 what's misinformation is saying that 4800 is the ONLY speed available, as if it just straight up won't reach higher, which is in fact not true. Don't diss what I said when you're telling misleading stuff. How buying a higher speed kit a waste ? Even if you need to overclock (Aka just enabling xmp) you'll get all the performances.
Please I have a question , I've noticed that you're using a 3600Mhz RAMs while in intel's official website it is advertised that i5 12400f can only support max 3200Mhz DD4 , is yours downgraded to 3200Mhz as advertised or does work just fine with Xmp 3600Mhz even if it's out of it's range ? or is it an overclock case ? explain please
It usually depends on whether your motherboard supports it, thats how i have always gone about it, and if the IMC can do that speed or not... I would imagine a 12400f or any 12th gen cpu for that matter will do 4800mhz ram i would think...Because you can get DDR5 boards for 12th gen right...
@@Adamgreen735 Yes I have a B660 that supports DDR4/DDR5 beyond the recomanded speeds on intel's site , and it's okay if don't do manual tweaking if I can enable Xmp profile which is supported as well , but as I told you I got confused with intel's claim and by reading mixed comments and on the internet some says yes it's all good and some says you should stick with intel's limitation
@@dzcasanova8840 I used xmp profile once with a 3600mhz ram, and my cpu is an I5 11400F and it worked for a few months, but then my system started crashing like every half hour. Since that happened, i set my ram to 3200mhz, which is originally supported.
Es imposible, no existe ninguna posibilidad de hacer que trabaje a más de 4800 mhz, no es un procesador que permita overlock. Esa comparación es errónea, es ddr5 4800 mhz. Y también falló en la ddr4, el procesador es dual Chanel, al poner 4 tarjetas RAM, trabaja un poco más lento que colocando 2.
@@BlackDragon-tf6rv Me refiero a que el procesador viene de fábrica para trabajar con ciertas velocidades de reloj de la RAM. La RAM solo puede tener una velocidad de reloj que pueda usar el procesador, sino literalmente se desincronizan y no pueden funcionar. Al buscar las especificaciones de un procesador puedes ver con que velocidad de RAM puede trabajar como máximo. Sin embargo, si el procesador permite overlock, puedes usar RAM a velocidad más alta que la que permite el procesador de fábrica
An at least 10fps improvement for an upgrade of a single hardware for me is pretty worth it. Especially if it means I get to enjoy 90fps instead of 80fps (sweet spot for me) . However, upgrading my RAM to DDR5 will also mean that I will also need to upgrade my motherboard and CPU. That means I'll be needing to upgrade 3 components.
0:24 already this test is sketchy. First, use same brands and model. next, 4 sticks have a different performance vs 2 sticks. in games i have noticed from few tests that 4 sticks perform better than 2, in productivity software 2 sticks perform better than 4.
i understand but i guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16... and it's not possible that everyone has the same gskill model that you are asking me to test... maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
Wow, such a difference?! Now a question, doesn't a i5-12400F and a RTX 4070 Ti Super bootleneck like crazy since the GPU is way more powerful than the CPU?
i used the 4070 ti super for making bottleneck on both setups and guess what, ddr5 reduce the bottleneck which shows the power of ddr5 ram... always remember that ram can't generate fps but it can help the cpu to utilize the gpu more oftenly...
@@GamingBench-rgb I've watched benchmarks between DDR4 and DDR5, with the same CPU and GPU, and there is always a huge increase in FPS, sometimes it goes as higher as 20 fps. If you say there is no increase in fps....are they faking it?
Botleneck needs parameters to be implied, that not some fixed thing to say like that. If the guy plays 4k + ultra, 4070ti will be the botleneck in most AAA games.
Can i buy DDR5 6000MHz CL30 with 12400f and 4070S? Will it be compatible? I read on the internet what kind of ram I should choose for the 12400f and I keep reading that DDR5 4800MHz is the maximum for this processor. During your tests there were no problems? Did you really use 6000MHz or your DDR5 was running with regular 4800MHz?
So its useless to use ddr4 with it. You have to pay 30% more for max performance from it. I suggest get a am4 socket cpu like 5600 with ddr4 to beat i5 12400.
@@bititboi lga 1700 mobo, ddr5 ram. These extra things add 20% more cost to intel. It is faster if you oay more. With ddr4 the performance difference is 5-8%. Which is subtracted when you add mobo price. Am4 is so matured. Ddr4 3200 is cheap. I think people love to pay more just for insignificant improvements. Upto you. Until lga 1700 and ddr5 gets reasonably priced. R5 5600x or non x. With rx6600 xt or non is is 1080p beasts
I still dont get wy all the crasyness to have more then 60fps when 60 fps its what you need to play a fluid game,i have a rtx 4070 ti Super TUF16 i always lock to 60 fps on 4k,never get more then a max 47 º and lock in afterburner the clock to not more then 2400....its not need....i7 14700KF here/ddr5 7600----but ddr4 vs ddr5 dont have mush differençe i know because i have 2 pcs to use,dunno how you have so mush differençe
You'll say this until have some OLED 120/144hz at hands. And i'm saying this being someone who play only offline single mode games. "Not necessary" is just some self-justification... could be said about 60fps too, a lot of people play
An at least 10fps improvement for an upgrade of a single hardware for me is pretty worth it. Especially if it means I get to enjoy 90fps instead of 80fps (sweet spot for me) . However, upgrading my RAM to DDR5 will also mean that I will also need to upgrade my motherboard and CPU. That means I'll be needing to upgrade 3 components.
It was a very good test, but I wish it had been added in 2k, it wouldn't have much use with the 4070 Ti S that plays games at 1080p, if it changes in pursuit of high fps
can't you move towards the ryzen 7600 and am5 platform? Then, you would have a long upgrade path ahead. Do not buy am4 or intel right now. Both are dead systems.
Doesn't anyone see that the testing is somehow suspicious? Pay attention to the PWR values of the video card consumption Watts (W). They are different everywhere! That is, most likely in all these cases on video, the graphics in the games were not configured the same way, in different ways. That's the difference in frames, that's the difference in video card consumption. Разве никто не видит, что тестирование какое то подозрительное ? Обратите внимание на значения PWR потребление видеокарты Ватты (W). Они разные везде ! То есть скорее всего во всех этих случаях на видео, графика в играх была настроено не одинаково, по разному. Вот и разница в кадрах, вот и разница в потребление видеокарты на видео.
lol GPU Power is also depends on the gpus usage which is also suspicious😂😂 more gpu usage = More Power Consumption more gpu usage = more fps more gpus usage = means less cpu bottleneck which allows cpu to render more frames...
Hello! Question, so im thinking on getting the 12400f and using ddr5 at 5600 mhz, trying to pair it up with an rtx 4070 super, would that be a good combo? (Will play at 1440p) nice video btw! Hope someone can answer!!
Wow I didn't knew a 12400F also support DDR5 and its price also getting cheaper these days. For now DDR4 still good but for futureproofing maybe it going to be worth to get DDR5 I think? 🤷♀
does it need xmp to be 6000bus? sirrr thank you.... i already got b760m ddr5 , ram 16gbx2 6000bus and i5 12400f... i still figure out if i have to xmp or not
Да, не плохо, учитывая одинаковые timing 10ms. DDR5 немного выигрывает, но было бы честно сравнить самую быструю память DDR4 и самую быструю доступную DDR5. Просто я вот вот планирую собирать новый ПК, когда выйдет 5090)) а новые процессоры не поддерживает ddr5. Вот я и грущу.
Wow, I didn't know that i5-12400F has such amazing processing power capability that it can actually be able to handle a RTX 4070 Ti Super even on 1080p... This definetly beats the R5-5600X but with extra motherboard and RAM costs ofc.. Performance difference seems definetly huge compared to DDR4 build, DDR5 6000MHz definetly worths when it comes to pairing with high end GPUs and I think even these high end GPUs can be easily pairable on 1440p display with a DDR4 build of 12400F, DLSS and Frame Generation matters more anyway.. Thanks for this test, liked it guys 👍🏻
в интернете куча тестов, на самом деле многое также зависит от таймингов, глубоко настроенная ddr5 на 6000 может выдавать в среднем на 10% больше фпс по сравнению с завода
Разница в 20% из-за того, что упор в процессор а не карту. Т.е. проц с ddr4 не может нагрузить карту до 100%. Да и с ddr5 не всегда до 100% доходит, но все равно уже чуть лучше выходит. Просто 4070ti super для 12400 очевидно перебор. Особенно в full hd.
Been saying that the cpu and setup mattwes my 13400f likea ddr4 way more then ddr5 it's also more stable and I'm matching everyone of my friends systems using 13700k and 14700k with 4080 supers and ddr5. I'm running a 13400f with ddr4 and my 4080 super is a monster. I actually think I'm getting better performance in many games then my friends because of it. My point is ddr4 and ddr5 tests aren't so cut and dry. Motherboard matters, cpu matters, ram matters etc. My motherboard and cpu combo really does perform better with ddr4 like other friends systems do with ddr5. Just how it is. Lol There is a reason why some people show almost no difference, others bigger differences then some where ddr4 wins. Because so many variables are in the mix.
I'd rather have 32. Have 32gb ddr4 and 32 & 48 DDR5 kits (main rig), it has a smoothness, whether or not you actually need the extra ram. But I've not had to make that choice between those two. DDR5 does have futureproofing but it still costs 2x as much.
@@jayclarke777 In the description of the motherboard, it says it supports 6000Hz DDR5 RAM, but I was worried about whether my GPU will support it or not. Thanks bro❤️🩹
intel was always bottleneck cpus due to low memory speed, intel is crap . ddr5 is the first memory that intel perform good. ryzen was much much better and much future proof due to memory overclock
But why you wants DDR4 4000/4800? 3600/3733 is normal for DDR4. And 6000/6400 is normal for DDR5. Only two slots motherboard support very high clocks ram.
And this is one of the reasons I went with a RX 7700 XT for my 13400F DDR4 3200 setup. Anything past RX 7700 XT/RTX 4070 and my 13400F with DDR4 will start to bottleneck in some games, even at 1440p (which I game at). But I had other reasons aswell for not going higher on the GPU on this particular system. However, if my 13400F was paired with a DDR5 motherboard and some DDR5 6000 memory, I could have gone at least up to a 4070 Ti Super. My 5700X3D setup however, I have paired with a RX 7800 XT. The 3DV cache makes up for the lack of DDR5 and a 5700X3D setup can be paired with GPUs at least up to RTX 4080 Super without becoming too much of a bottleneck. Even RTX 4090 for 4K gaming.
Nice Sir 🎉 Actually I Wanna Thank You You Made Those All Videos Which I Request You To Made Them But Now Can You Please Like Do One More Thing Test What I Prefer Using Rtx 4070 Super And Choose Ryzen 7 5800X3D Then Test All Those Games With 1440P Ultra Settings And Use Frame Generation+ Ray Tracing With Those Games Which Support Those Games Your Already Test Those I Know But After Months After There Is A Performance Gains When You ReTested It Like ILl See On God Of War Forbidden West They Gain More Fps Then Before Some Months Test Alan Wake Is Still Need To Good Gpu I Mean Rtx 4070 Super Can Take That With Ray Tracing But They Need Frame Generation To Play 70+ Fps Constant Last Of Us Is Main Game That Seems Gains Fps Then Those Months Ago Fps Test Now They Have More Better Fps More Fps On Those Games On Those Graphics Cards Then Test Game Like Last Of Us 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain Just Like That God Of War 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain HellBlade 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain Use Ray Tracing + Frame Generation Also Forbidden West 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain ✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
If test are done for CPU stress then 1080p are chosen but if he select 1440p then all loads transfer to GPU and u will see same FPS , He just want to showcase RAM speed difference
че за бред. никто не будет покупать 4070ti super для fhd! Надо хотя бы qhd. Че толку от fhd, и так понятно что фпс поднимется, больше нагрузка на видеокарту. А если в 4к? будет прирост?
Прошу вас посмотреть на потребление видеокарты и процессора и сказать мне Почему так плохо меня пытаются обмануть это так примитивно занижать максимум потребления может придумаете что-то получше? продажные тестеры
4x16 running on cl18 i understand but i guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16... maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
I was using ddr4 setup before but now i just bought the ddr5 setup, So i make this video... I guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16...
@@GamingBench-rgb It’s very stupid to compare 4 versus 2 planks, we’re not talking about generation and amount of memory, you need to compare 2vs2 planks, because the difference between 4vs2 is very big, regardless of generation
I guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16... so 2x16 ddr4 vs 2x16 ddr5 is might not be relatable for most users and this video is based on the user need... maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
if someone wants to increase performance, they will not initially use 4 slats, you always need to use 2 slats to see an increase, regardless of the amount of memory, because when comparing 2 and 4 slats there will be a huge difference in performance. This should be known to most users.And comparing ddr4 by 4 bars with ddr5 by 2 bars, it misleads people!
Benchmarking on Low to prove what exactly? Who games on Low? Your GPU usage is 10% lower on ddr4 compared to 5 in multiple games which RAM has ZERO impact on that as well as power draw. You are using 4x8 vs 2x16 for even benchmarking which is comparing a cat to a chimpanzee plus 3600 vs 6000 instead of 4000 or higher ddr4. This is a great way to show how to increase your fps by 20% spending 5-600 dollars but if you game in 4k or 1440p this is a bad source of information.
Because CPU tests are ideally done on the lowest resolution and lowest graphical quality settings to reduce GPU dependency, and some people just prefer higher framerate to higher graphical fidelity, what's wrong with that? Lower GPU usage means longer CPU compute time and lower data throughput, which are caused by the slower RAM. 4 sticks of RAM could be detrimental to performance compared to 2 sticks of RAM due to the higher latency on paper, but in every benchmark I've seen, the performance difference is negligible, and in most cases 4 sticks of RAM even very slightly outperforms 2 sticks. Who knows why, maybe because of higher data redundancy shortening seek time, that's just my theory, but it just happens. And 12400f's DDR4 controller scales poorly beyond 3200Mhz, let alone 4000. You could check the benchmarks. 4000MHz RAM with good timings is only barely cheaper than 5600MHz CL36 DDR5 with good timings, so what's the point. You're not spending that much by going with DDR5 these days. DDR5 is getting cheaper, although DDR4 is much cheaper still of course.
@@theblitter Its more effective to just low the RESOLUTION, what is an impact on GPU only, changing nothing to CPU/RAM tasks. But (really noob) people would brag a lot like "who plays at 720p or lower?", so guys put at 1080p minimum and low some graphic stuff, what is really bad because even some graphic options have CPU impact and would be better test if at max (distance, crowd, etc)
bro are you stp. To see the real power of the processor, you need to run it at 1080p. Then we can see how well it does by putting all the load on the processor.
You are really wrong here. If you want to limit the test by VGA, your test is about VGA not the CPUs.... king of stupid thing to say. Thats all about know what the CPU limits here, in some games even 1080p was limited by 4070ti S, like RDR2. And in cases like this, the right thing to do was lower resolution to 720p, because we want the CPU.RAM limiting, not the VGA.
the difference is because i used 4070 ti super as it is bottlenecking on both setups but ddr5 reduce the bottleneck which shows the power of ddr5 ram... always remember that ram can't generate fps but it can help the cpu to utilize the gpu more oftenly...
Im about to buy a i5 12400f with a rtx 4060ti 8GB, 32 GB RAM DDR 5 6000 MHz, 1 TB SSD 5k MB Read and Write. Will it be fine ? I mean will it be bottlenecking that hard that games will stutter constantly?
НУ,ЧТО,ШКОЛОТРОНЫ? КТО ТАМ ОРАЛ ГРОМЧЕ ВСЕХ,ЧТО ЯКОБЫ РАЗНИЦЫ МЕЖДУ ddr4 И ddr5 ПРАКТИЧЕСКИ НЕТ?! ЧТО ЕСЛИ И ЕСТЬ РАЗНИЦА,ТО НЕЗНАЧИТЕЛЬНО,ВСЕ 3-5 КАДРА!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 КАК Я ОБОЖАЮ МАМКИНЫХ,ДИВАННЫХ ЭКСПЕРТОВ😂😂😂
@@anonim-014 Валюша,в этом видео показано всё наглядно,насколько ddr5 быстрее,чем ddr4! И это только начало! Пока только до +30-35%,со временем,разница будет только расти! Это примерно так же,как был переход с ddr3 на ddr4! Читай лучше книги 📚,развивайся!))
that DDR5 RAM reduce Bottleneck between 12400F and 4070Ti S ,especially on I5 12400F.....👍
`12400f + DDR5 6000MHz definetly worths when it comes to pairing with high end GPUs...
@@GamingBench-rgb cl16 3600 is trash, cl14 3433-3600 much better results
@@eyesta i wouldn't say trash dude, its just worse hahahhaa
Could you please help me i am building a pc with rtx4060 is it worth of building pc with DDR5 or its good if i go with DDR4 setup is it really make big difference? if i want to do 1080p gaming only. Please reply i am confused
@@Tlfplays For the rtx 4060 it almost doesn't matter, the gpu will be a limiter in most games.
The ddr4 must be working at 3600 in gear2 in this video. There will be no difference between ddr4 and ddr5 if you set it to 3500 in gear1.
😂😂😂
Why?
Kindly explain gear 2 vs gear 1, just want to understand why there was such a huge difference
exactly. stupid video
@@marufulislam4311 I know it's a bit late to reply but gear 2 means your memory controller runs at half of the speed of your RAM, and gear 1 means the memory controller runs at the same speed of your RAM, which greatly improves it's performance. Even tho there won't be a massive 20-30 FPS increase in every game, it certainly does help a bit.
I have multiple stutters and drops with this CPU. With this same monster GPU, it's a great CPU for older/not-intensive games/rendering since these problems seem to happen with games that are very CPU heavy and not optimized well.
I just have same issue just turn off all apps overlays like nvidia overley and turn off power consumption tick in msi afterburner you will see the magic and dont forgot xbox gamebar
I tried cl16 3600mhz ddr with my i5-12400f, and it was only stable on second gear. first gear, I kept getting BOSD when I did anything other than browsing the web. 32gb of 3200Mhz cl16 in first gear works VERY well with i5-12400f and 1% lows are good. With the 3600Mhz ram, the 1% lows were terrible and system wasn't as snappy since it wasn't really stable at that speed.
Thanks for the info
can't you just reduce the ram speed to 3200 from the bios?won't it be as stable as normal 3200mhz ram?
@@bleacharabs9622 I did try that, and while my system wasn't crashing anymore, 1% and .01% were still bad. But I moved on from ddr4 ram on all of my systems. Right now I'm running my i5-12400f with 5200mhz of ddr5 corsair ram, and its running excellent. System boots in 11 seconds, it feels snappy, 1% and .01% lows are good and absolutely no crashes. You can safely use up to 6000mhz of ddr5 with the 12400f. If you do go any higher though, your machine will more than likely crash.
you have no clue about ram oc please stop commenting non sense
@@rushskill3518 Dude I can't take people like you seriously. You are so quick to criticize, but don't offer any advice of your own or at least explain how what i'm saying is non-sense. I experimented with a bunch of ram on the 12400f both ddr4 and ddr5 and I'm strictly speaking from my own experience with all the Ram I tried. Nothing more nothing less. And yeah I am not that great with Ram oc, so maybe I would get better results if I could adjust the timings manually, but yeah...anyways thats all I gotta say about that. 😸
Какие тайминги на DDR4? Разница в цене конская, лучше её потратить на видеокарту или проц.
разница в цене +- за 16х2 5к р.
normally youd want to at least doubled the speed each gen
ddr2 to ddr3 = 800mhz - 1600mhz
ddr3 to ddr4 = 1600/2000 - 3600/4400
ddr4 to ddr5 then should be around 7200mhz and up
but that 6000 is quite significant already like using different gpu
Um, not really. You want the fastest speed compatible. 12400 only supports up to 4800mhz so 7200mhz is wasting your money in this case. Unless you want to future proof.
@@KAi_i47 it supports up to 6200mhz, just not natively, you need to use xmp. Although 7200mhz is still somewhat a waste
@Waypse no this is not true. Officially the 12400 supports 4800. There may be possibilities to OC the ram upto 6000 but only with a hard clock. Stop spreading misinformation.
@KAi_i47 what's misinformation is saying that 4800 is the ONLY speed available, as if it just straight up won't reach higher, which is in fact not true. Don't diss what I said when you're telling misleading stuff. How buying a higher speed kit a waste ? Even if you need to overclock (Aka just enabling xmp) you'll get all the performances.
Please I have a question , I've noticed that you're using a 3600Mhz RAMs while in intel's official website it is advertised that i5 12400f can only support max 3200Mhz DD4 , is yours downgraded to 3200Mhz as advertised or does work just fine with Xmp 3600Mhz even if it's out of it's range ? or is it an overclock case ? explain please
It usually depends on whether your motherboard supports it, thats how i have always gone about it, and if the IMC can do that speed or not... I would imagine a 12400f or any 12th gen cpu for that matter will do 4800mhz ram i would think...Because you can get DDR5 boards for 12th gen right...
@@Adamgreen735 Yes I have a B660 that supports DDR4/DDR5 beyond the recomanded speeds on intel's site , and it's okay if don't do manual tweaking if I can enable Xmp profile which is supported as well , but as I told you I got confused with intel's claim and by reading mixed comments and on the internet some says yes it's all good and some says you should stick with intel's limitation
@@dzcasanova8840 I used xmp profile once with a 3600mhz ram, and my cpu is an I5 11400F and it worked for a few months, but then my system started crashing like every half hour. Since that happened, i set my ram to 3200mhz, which is originally supported.
I run 4000mhz on my 12400f
The i-5 supoort max 4800Mhz stock. Did you overclock the motherboard and CPU to reach the 6000Mhz?
Es imposible, no existe ninguna posibilidad de hacer que trabaje a más de 4800 mhz, no es un procesador que permita overlock. Esa comparación es errónea, es ddr5 4800 mhz. Y también falló en la ddr4, el procesador es dual Chanel, al poner 4 tarjetas RAM, trabaja un poco más lento que colocando 2.
@@oscaralejandro3577 pero con el perfil XMP se puede subir la frecuencia, lo pone en la página oficial de Intel con el i5 12400f
@@hugojapon432 gracias por la corrección
@@oscaralejandro3577 El procesador no se overclockea, se overclockea la ram.
@@BlackDragon-tf6rv Me refiero a que el procesador viene de fábrica para trabajar con ciertas velocidades de reloj de la RAM. La RAM solo puede tener una velocidad de reloj que pueda usar el procesador, sino literalmente se desincronizan y no pueden funcionar.
Al buscar las especificaciones de un procesador puedes ver con que velocidad de RAM puede trabajar como máximo. Sin embargo, si el procesador permite overlock, puedes usar RAM a velocidad más alta que la que permite el procesador de fábrica
Does it looks different with Ryzen 3d processors?
This DDR4 and DDR5 is stock? or you overclock or tweaked timings?
An at least 10fps improvement for an upgrade of a single hardware for me is pretty worth it. Especially if it means I get to enjoy 90fps instead of 80fps (sweet spot for me) . However, upgrading my RAM to DDR5 will also mean that I will also need to upgrade my motherboard and CPU. That means I'll be needing to upgrade 3 components.
@@MyChiliIceCream single?you need high end motherboard with it,don't think most people who go budget cpu spend loads of money on mobos and ram
0:24 already this test is sketchy. First, use same brands and model. next, 4 sticks have a different performance vs 2 sticks. in games i have noticed from few tests that 4 sticks perform better than 2, in productivity software 2 sticks perform better than 4.
i understand but i guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16...
and it's not possible that everyone has the same gskill model that you are asking me to test...
maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
Would have been nice to do the same comp...at 1080p with the 4060ti
Wow, such a difference?!
Now a question, doesn't a i5-12400F and a RTX 4070 Ti Super bootleneck like crazy since the GPU is way more powerful than the CPU?
i mean if it was 4070 it was k but 4070 ti super is way stronger than 4070
i used the 4070 ti super for making bottleneck on both setups and guess what, ddr5 reduce the bottleneck which shows the power of ddr5 ram...
always remember that ram can't generate fps but it can help the cpu to utilize the gpu more oftenly...
@@GamingBench-rgb I've watched benchmarks between DDR4 and DDR5, with the same CPU and GPU, and there is always a huge increase in FPS, sometimes it goes as higher as 20 fps.
If you say there is no increase in fps....are they faking it?
@@JustaGuy2.0you know that speed is different from capacity right? More speed meaning more often it can bring the stuff.
Botleneck needs parameters to be implied, that not some fixed thing to say like that.
If the guy plays 4k + ultra, 4070ti will be the botleneck in most AAA games.
Can i buy DDR5 6000MHz CL30 with 12400f and 4070S? Will it be compatible?
I read on the internet what kind of ram I should choose for the 12400f and I keep reading that DDR5 4800MHz is the maximum for this processor. During your tests there were no problems? Did you really use 6000MHz or your DDR5 was running with regular 4800MHz?
I got i5 12500 and I can use 6000MHZ on bios setting
why use 4x8 d4 and 16x2 d5, not good
makes no difference
Author just idiot
@@crossltg8329 Only people without in-depth knowledge of computers think it makes no difference 😂
So its useless to use ddr4 with it. You have to pay 30% more for max performance from it. I suggest get a am4 socket cpu like 5600 with ddr4 to beat i5 12400.
lil bro i5 12400f is faster than r5 5600
@@bititboi lga 1700 mobo, ddr5 ram. These extra things add 20% more cost to intel. It is faster if you oay more. With ddr4 the performance difference is 5-8%. Which is subtracted when you add mobo price. Am4 is so matured. Ddr4 3200 is cheap. I think people love to pay more just for insignificant improvements. Upto you. Until lga 1700 and ddr5 gets reasonably priced. R5 5600x or non x. With rx6600 xt or non is is 1080p beasts
4x8gb?
We have a problem... and less perform
Unless they are single rank modules.
Dual rank 4 modules should be a crime unless you want more memory for non game related usage
I still dont get wy all the crasyness to have more then 60fps when 60 fps its what you need to play a fluid game,i have a rtx 4070 ti Super TUF16 i always lock to 60 fps on 4k,never get more then a max 47 º and lock in afterburner the clock to not more then 2400....its not need....i7 14700KF here/ddr5 7600----but ddr4 vs ddr5 dont have mush differençe i know because i have 2 pcs to use,dunno how you have so mush differençe
not unless you have a higher refresh rate monitor.. plus - higher fps, less latency
You'll say this until have some OLED 120/144hz at hands.
And i'm saying this being someone who play only offline single mode games.
"Not necessary" is just some self-justification... could be said about 60fps too, a lot of people play
An at least 10fps improvement for an upgrade of a single hardware for me is pretty worth it. Especially if it means I get to enjoy 90fps instead of 80fps (sweet spot for me) . However, upgrading my RAM to DDR5 will also mean that I will also need to upgrade my motherboard and CPU. That means I'll be needing to upgrade 3 components.
And for intel of 13zen is it better ddr4 or ddr5?
ddr4 cl18 and overstated secondary timings is not the best competitor for such a comparison
It was a very good test, but I wish it had been added in 2k, it wouldn't have much use with the 4070 Ti S that plays games at 1080p, if it changes in pursuit of high fps
Tengo un i5 12400 cual motherboard me recomiendan MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 o MSI B760 GRMING PLUS WIFI ?
i noticed that ddr4 setup draw less power than ddr5 setup , i wonder why ?
Fake test
Using DDR5 you get more FPS, so GPU and CPU have more to do to generate those additional frames. It's obvious then it will need an extra power.
@@hoobiwoobi lmao
@@cameron818 What's so funny? Any other explanation?
Wich is the better CPU for DDR5 12th 13th generation?
12
Should I get Ryzen 7 5700x ddr4 or i5 12400f ddr5 ( slightly more money)
can't you move towards the ryzen 7600 and am5 platform? Then, you would have a long upgrade path ahead. Do not buy am4 or intel right now. Both are dead systems.
you have to be cpu bound all the time for this to manifest, in real world this wont matter as you will always be gpu bound anyways
Unless you play competitive games
I think the huge difference is due to the cpu bottleneck, the difference will be minimal if you pair a i5 12400f with something like a 4060 etc.
Doesn't anyone see that the testing is somehow suspicious? Pay attention to the PWR values of the video card consumption Watts (W). They are different everywhere! That is, most likely in all these cases on video, the graphics in the games were not configured the same way, in different ways. That's the difference in frames, that's the difference in video card consumption.
Разве никто не видит, что тестирование какое то подозрительное ? Обратите внимание на значения PWR потребление видеокарты Ватты (W). Они разные везде ! То есть скорее всего во всех этих случаях на видео, графика в играх была настроено не одинаково, по разному. Вот и разница в кадрах, вот и разница в потребление видеокарты на видео.
lol
GPU Power is also depends on the gpus usage which is also suspicious😂😂
more gpu usage = More Power Consumption
more gpu usage = more fps
more gpus usage = means less cpu bottleneck which allows cpu to render more frames...
Hello! Question, so im thinking on getting the 12400f and using ddr5 at 5600 mhz, trying to pair it up with an rtx 4070 super, would that be a good combo? (Will play at 1440p) nice video btw! Hope someone can answer!!
i5 12400f with DDR5 2x16GB - 6000MHz CL30 Ram + RTX 470 SUPER
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No, its much better if you get 7500f instead
Wow I didn't knew a 12400F also support DDR5 and its price also getting cheaper these days. For now DDR4 still good but for futureproofing maybe it going to be worth to get DDR5 I think? 🤷♀
yes.
12400 ddr5 максимум 4800.
Вы разгоняли на 6000?
does it need xmp to be 6000bus? sirrr thank you.... i already got b760m ddr5 , ram 16gbx2 6000bus and i5 12400f... i still figure out if i have to xmp or not
did you try xmp bro? is it stable?
If its able too and is stable, then you should always always always use XMP, it is free performance you will be not using if you dont turn it on...
Can it use 6000 ram?and how?
How do you achieve such low frametimes, i cant get lower than 12ms in cs2, same specs, and i cant even run it 150avg :(
Used to run csgo 500stable
Уже не корректный тест!!! У меня на двух плашках больше пропускная способность чем на 4...как можно сравнивать 4 по 8 и 2 на 16 ???
там разница будет фпс 5 , не больше) всё верно, он не правильно их тестирует
It would be cool to test this test at a display resolution of 1440P
Да, не плохо, учитывая одинаковые timing 10ms. DDR5 немного выигрывает, но было бы честно сравнить самую быструю память DDR4 и самую быструю доступную DDR5.
Просто я вот вот планирую собирать новый ПК, когда выйдет 5090)) а новые процессоры не поддерживает ddr5. Вот я и грущу.
Tengo una duda, en las especificaciones del i5 12400f dice que soportar hasta 4800 Mts, pero veo que le ponem de 5200 o hasta 6000, como es eso?
Se puede pero es overclock
Xmp profile
Good test, can you do it with a less powerful GPU? Like a RTX 4060 or RX 7600 or so? I want to know if is worth it with 300usd GPUs
at that gpu, it's just waste of money to pick ddr5
i5 12400 supports Max.
Up to DDR5 4800 MT/s
Up to DDR4 3200 MT/s
Wow, I didn't know that i5-12400F has such amazing processing power capability that it can actually be able to handle a RTX 4070 Ti Super even on 1080p...
This definetly beats the R5-5600X but with extra motherboard and RAM costs ofc.. Performance difference seems definetly huge compared to DDR4 build, DDR5 6000MHz definetly worths when it comes to pairing with high end GPUs and I think even these high end GPUs can be easily pairable on 1440p display with a DDR4 build of 12400F, DLSS and Frame Generation matters more anyway..
Thanks for this test, liked it guys 👍🏻
12 gen CPUs are good, well I cant speak for i3, that still exist? lol
More or less...96% usage
What about ryzen 5 5600x?
bro i5 12400f 6000mz support?. 2x16=32 6000mz?
6750 support cl30
yo can see here i am using it at 6000mhz with 12400f...
that a big difference im surprised i thought maybe it'd be a couple fps.
Бред реклама ддр5 не более. Не может из за памяти 20% производительности разница.
Есть другое видео, там 14600к тестируют также с DDR4 3600 и DDR5 6000 и такой разницы там нет
в интернете куча тестов, на самом деле многое также зависит от таймингов, глубоко настроенная ddr5 на 6000 может выдавать в среднем на 10% больше фпс по сравнению с завода
Разница в 20% из-за того, что упор в процессор а не карту.
Т.е. проц с ddr4 не может нагрузить карту до 100%. Да и с ddr5 не всегда до 100% доходит, но все равно уже чуть лучше выходит.
Просто 4070ti super для 12400 очевидно перебор. Особенно в full hd.
@@mrkot3098 так всё ещё нормальное комбо, тем более никто не будет играть в fhd с 4070ti
@@gorant_2575 если сидеть в 2к, да нормальное.
Я бы сидел ради большого запаса и лучей.
Been saying that the cpu and setup mattwes my 13400f likea ddr4 way more then ddr5 it's also more stable and I'm matching everyone of my friends systems using 13700k and 14700k with 4080 supers and ddr5. I'm running a 13400f with ddr4 and my 4080 super is a monster. I actually think I'm getting better performance in many games then my friends because of it.
My point is ddr4 and ddr5 tests aren't so cut and dry. Motherboard matters, cpu matters, ram matters etc. My motherboard and cpu combo really does perform better with ddr4 like other friends systems do with ddr5. Just how it is. Lol
There is a reason why some people show almost no difference, others bigger differences then some where ddr4 wins. Because so many variables are in the mix.
LMAO ,, your joking? I think your dreaming beautiful woman and then when you wake up you find it is your left hand ,,,,,
4 kits vs 2 umm...and idk what tight timings are 乁( •_• )ㄏ
!???
32gb ddr4 or 16gb ddr5?
I'd rather have 32. Have 32gb ddr4 and 32 & 48 DDR5 kits (main rig), it has a smoothness, whether or not you actually need the extra ram. But I've not had to make that choice between those two. DDR5 does have futureproofing but it still costs 2x as much.
Bro bro bro bro bro
i5 12400F can support 6000hz ddr5 ram 😳😳😳
If your motherboard supports XMP overclocking.
@@jayclarke777
In the description of the motherboard, it says it supports 6000Hz DDR5 RAM, but I was worried about whether my GPU will support it or not.
Thanks bro❤️🩹
Привет asus prime b760-plus ddr5 может разгонать 12400 по BCLK?
I dont know how OC works in a non K cpu, but that is a good mobo btw
intel was always bottleneck cpus due to low memory speed, intel is crap . ddr5 is the first memory that intel perform good. ryzen was much much better and much future proof due to memory overclock
У меня 12400f разогнан до 5.2ггц и 64гб ОЗУ ддр5 на 6400 в 2 к все летает
DDR 4 4800 test???? 3600 its low memory
But why you wants DDR4 4000/4800? 3600/3733 is normal for DDR4. And 6000/6400 is normal for DDR5. Only two slots motherboard support very high clocks ram.
And this is one of the reasons I went with a RX 7700 XT for my 13400F DDR4 3200 setup. Anything past RX 7700 XT/RTX 4070 and my 13400F with DDR4 will start to bottleneck in some games, even at 1440p (which I game at). But I had other reasons aswell for not going higher on the GPU on this particular system. However, if my 13400F was paired with a DDR5 motherboard and some DDR5 6000 memory, I could have gone at least up to a 4070 Ti Super. My 5700X3D setup however, I have paired with a RX 7800 XT. The 3DV cache makes up for the lack of DDR5 and a 5700X3D setup can be paired with GPUs at least up to RTX 4080 Super without becoming too much of a bottleneck. Even RTX 4090 for 4K gaming.
if you dont have the XMP, the ddr5 is only 4800
and if i don't use the xmp, the dd4 is only 2666mhz
Nice Sir 🎉
Actually I Wanna Thank You
You Made Those All Videos Which I Request You To Made Them
But Now Can You Please Like Do One More Thing Test What I Prefer
Using Rtx 4070 Super
And Choose
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Then Test All Those Games With 1440P Ultra Settings And Use Frame Generation+ Ray Tracing With Those Games Which Support Those Games
Your Already Test Those I Know But After Months After There Is A Performance Gains When You ReTested It Like ILl See On God Of War Forbidden West They Gain More Fps Then Before Some Months Test
Alan Wake Is Still Need To Good Gpu I Mean Rtx 4070 Super Can Take That With Ray Tracing But They Need Frame Generation To Play 70+ Fps Constant
Last Of Us Is Main Game That Seems Gains Fps Then Those Months Ago Fps Test Now They Have More Better Fps More Fps On Those Games On Those Graphics Cards
Then Test Game Like
Last Of Us 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain
Just Like That
God Of War 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain
HellBlade 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain
Use Ray Tracing + Frame Generation Also
Forbidden West 1440P Ultra Settings First Test With Native Then Use Dlss Quality To See How Much Fps We Can Gain
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Ddr5 yeni, gelişecek ve optimum performansı verecektir.
ddr4 ram in gear 2? )))
Yes, the author of this video is a dummass
hi there, Im not that familliar with ram tech but how do you know that the ram was in gear 2?
ddr5 is amazing future proof for intel. because intel bottlencek cpus running in super low speeds...like i7 9700 running 2660! mhz
I5 12400f is up to 4800mhz 😂
i guess its time to buy ddr 5 32 gb i have 16 gb 1 stick oc to 3200mhz
Why do you make tests on 1080p? Does somebody play in 1080p on 4070 ti super? This card can play in 4K
If test are done for CPU stress then 1080p are chosen but if he select 1440p then all loads transfer to GPU and u will see same FPS , He just want to showcase RAM speed difference
Разница нормальная такая😮🎉
Бред. Фейковое сравнение.
че за бред. никто не будет покупать 4070ti super для fhd! Надо хотя бы qhd. Че толку от fhd, и так понятно что фпс поднимется, больше нагрузка на видеокарту. А если в 4к? будет прирост?
Наверное он сравнил с узким местом для фулл хд. У каждого процессора есть свой узкий мест, особенно на Амд процессора там заметно.
İ5 forever 😍😍
Прошу вас посмотреть на потребление видеокарты и процессора и сказать мне Почему так плохо меня пытаются обмануть это так примитивно занижать максимум потребления
может придумаете что-то получше? продажные тестеры
dual rank 3600 ddr4 need 2 slots
4 slots 3600 on 12400? its joke? cl 22?)))))
4x16 running on cl18
i understand but i guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16...
maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
I also tried to convey something similar to the author, but he does not understand me
porra !! 10 a 20 ate 40 fps a mas p ddr5,, mas q maguinitude de poder
I have ddr4 4000 on i7 14700kf run faster than this setup ddr4 3600
3600 Cl18-22-22-42 ? Really shit ram ...
Cl16-18-18-38 will make same efectivity like DDR5.
no
@@straightedge1176 Yes
The DDR4 ram even run is 2T command rate reducing performance.
4х8 ddr4 vs 2x16 ddr5 ? LOL
I was using ddr4 setup before but now i just bought the ddr5 setup, So i make this video...
I guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16...
@@GamingBench-rgb It’s very stupid to compare 4 versus 2 planks, we’re not talking about generation and amount of memory, you need to compare 2vs2 planks, because the difference between 4vs2 is very big, regardless of generation
I guess most of the ddr4 users own 2x8 or 4x8 instead of 2x16... so 2x16 ddr4 vs 2x16 ddr5 is might not be relatable for most users and this video is based on the user need...
maybe the guy like me who own the xpg 4x8 ddr4 ram before but now he is thinking to upgrade from ddr4 to ddr5 ram with a different model and want to see the difference...
if someone wants to increase performance, they will not initially use 4 slats, you always need to use 2 slats to see an increase, regardless of the amount of memory, because when comparing 2 and 4 slats there will be a huge difference in performance. This should be known to most users.And comparing ddr4 by 4 bars with ddr5 by 2 bars, it misleads people!
@@GamingBench-rgb If you test ddr 4 2x16 and ddr 5 2x16, there will be practically no difference, everything will depend on the frequency and CL
Intel , just NOOOOOO
intel s.u.c.k.s. so bad
Benchmarking on Low to prove what exactly? Who games on Low? Your GPU usage is 10% lower on ddr4 compared to 5 in multiple games which RAM has ZERO impact on that as well as power draw. You are using 4x8 vs 2x16 for even benchmarking which is comparing a cat to a chimpanzee plus 3600 vs 6000 instead of 4000 or higher ddr4. This is a great way to show how to increase your fps by 20% spending 5-600 dollars but if you game in 4k or 1440p this is a bad source of information.
Because CPU tests are ideally done on the lowest resolution and lowest graphical quality settings to reduce GPU dependency, and some people just prefer higher framerate to higher graphical fidelity, what's wrong with that? Lower GPU usage means longer CPU compute time and lower data throughput, which are caused by the slower RAM. 4 sticks of RAM could be detrimental to performance compared to 2 sticks of RAM due to the higher latency on paper, but in every benchmark I've seen, the performance difference is negligible, and in most cases 4 sticks of RAM even very slightly outperforms 2 sticks. Who knows why, maybe because of higher data redundancy shortening seek time, that's just my theory, but it just happens. And 12400f's DDR4 controller scales poorly beyond 3200Mhz, let alone 4000. You could check the benchmarks. 4000MHz RAM with good timings is only barely cheaper than 5600MHz CL36 DDR5 with good timings, so what's the point.
You're not spending that much by going with DDR5 these days. DDR5 is getting cheaper, although DDR4 is much cheaper still of course.
I game on low low low low low and than some more low with rendering scale. I don't give a F about how game looks in competive multi-player 🙃
@@theblitter Its more effective to just low the RESOLUTION, what is an impact on GPU only, changing nothing to CPU/RAM tasks.
But (really noob) people would brag a lot like "who plays at 720p or lower?", so guys put at 1080p minimum and low some graphic stuff, what is really bad because even some graphic options have CPU impact and would be better test if at max (distance, crowd, etc)
1080p ?
You must test it in 1440p, because the Rtx4070 is a UW-QHD Graphiccard !
bro are you stp. To see the real power of the processor, you need to run it at 1080p. Then we can see how well it does by putting all the load on the processor.
You are really wrong here.
If you want to limit the test by VGA, your test is about VGA not the CPUs.... king of stupid thing to say.
Thats all about know what the CPU limits here, in some games even 1080p was limited by 4070ti S, like RDR2. And in cases like this, the right thing to do was lower resolution to 720p, because we want the CPU.RAM limiting, not the VGA.
this has to be fake numbers...
the difference is because i used 4070 ti super as it is bottlenecking on both setups but ddr5 reduce the bottleneck which shows the power of ddr5 ram...
always remember that ram can't generate fps but it can help the cpu to utilize the gpu more oftenly...
Im about to buy a i5 12400f with a rtx 4060ti 8GB, 32 GB RAM DDR 5 6000 MHz, 1 TB SSD 5k MB Read and Write. Will it be fine ? I mean will it be bottlenecking that hard that games will stutter constantly?
НУ,ЧТО,ШКОЛОТРОНЫ? КТО ТАМ ОРАЛ ГРОМЧЕ ВСЕХ,ЧТО ЯКОБЫ РАЗНИЦЫ МЕЖДУ ddr4 И ddr5 ПРАКТИЧЕСКИ НЕТ?! ЧТО ЕСЛИ И ЕСТЬ РАЗНИЦА,ТО НЕЗНАЧИТЕЛЬНО,ВСЕ 3-5 КАДРА!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 КАК Я ОБОЖАЮ МАМКИНЫХ,ДИВАННЫХ ЭКСПЕРТОВ😂😂😂
@@anonim-014 Валюша,в этом видео показано всё наглядно,насколько ddr5 быстрее,чем ddr4! И это только начало! Пока только до +30-35%,со временем,разница будет только расти! Это примерно так же,как был переход с ddr3 на ddr4! Читай лучше книги 📚,развивайся!))
@@anonim-014 Ahaha...You clown so funny 🤣 😂 😆
@@anonim-014 .I ve been translating for s long time,clown?😂😂😂
@014,I ve been translating for a long time,clown?🤣🤣🤣
@@straightedge1176 Ich sehe keine Beweise dafür, dass von den Russen noch etwas Normales übrig ist
wow nice to know thanks!
5600х и 7800хт,32гб 3600 все ок. Синие не канают
Здесь ни слова про красных сказано не было, просто сравнение памяти, нет надо своё гавно амудешное и сюда впихнуть, типичный амудешник
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