I mean he did say that he's above him because he's literally stomped in him on the server, not by comparison. jL went nuclear against donk, that has nothing to do with having better teammates
I was really hoping Kassad was going to say Wicadia as he was listing off players he thought were better than Donk. I just wanted him to do it as a joke for the reaction.
kassad - most mental takes so he stays in the theme of the show maui - meme takes to stay true to his goofy quirky persona Thorin - mildest takes of all time so he can go back and say he was right
I don’t get the first take. It’s started off as a donk isn’t top five take but then it became about how spirit rely on him so much. That seems like to me, he’s so impactful that his team needs him to perform insanely just to win
Kassad should've said that since the player break mezzi (who is 4th player on Vitality) has a better rating than donk vs top 10 teams and almost similar rating vs top 5
well yeah that's going to happen when you're as maui said getting sent in to dry peak entry 1v3 vs top 10 opponents, he's literally getting shit on harder by chopper than any other team and he's still got a positive rating lol.
Pretty insane. Post player break has Donk had a good series vs top 5 team? I think ZywOo post player break is clearly the best player against top 5 teams.
I think I understand what Kassad means when he says IGL is not a necessary role if you have the right players, its kinda like the total football philosophy of Johan Cruiff if youre familiar with that. His vision was that if everyone can play every position you can achieve a very fluid style of football and it proved very effective (tho obviously not to the extent that EVERYONE is able to play EVERY position). In CS I suppose you could theoretically reach that with players like monesy/niko who clearly have a good read on the game. In fact I think this is maybe kind of what Blade is trying to do in Navi as well with trying to make bit the "playmaker" who is allowed to go for timings/reads (tho im basing that on some comment from either another podcast or just an actual yt comment lol). I just think CS doesnt quite work that way with how taxing it usually is on aim to have to think about the macro play constantly. The closest we wil get to that is teams like current Navi and era Astralis where team cohesion is so good and obviously those teams both have/had very respectable IGLs anyway. Cant believe I spent like 10 minutes typing out a comment no one will read lmao
@@Catangerine I actually think that we kinda had it in cs in Fnatic ~2016 when they had Dennis. They were just a bunch of great players and most of them had a great understanding of a game so they could be playmakers. But u still must have a guy who is gonna make that last call, like gather all the info from players and make it. It just doesn't work without it since your playmakers are so isolated and you don't want them to kinda overthink and both try to make a play and think of a call at the same time. Also it works better when 1 guy has all the responsibility to call since star palyers in their mind can just blame him and not ruin the confidence in themselves when their call loses them the round (kinda what happened to Niko and yekindar, who thought that being a 2nd called is the same a IGLing)
@@Molsdas Fnatic is a good shout too with players like Flusha, Olof and JW. The dennis roster was considerably worse and achieved a lot less though than the one with pronax (which also had the famous pronax timeouts which would pretty much always lead to round wins for fnatic). And once again thats an era level team like Astralis where it all just clicked perfectly. So yeah I think IGL is definitely an important role that we wont see leaving the game for a long time if ever. I would be super interested to hear Blade's take on this though and how he has approached making this current navi team and how he views the roles of his players because I still think his vision is the closest to it.
with proclamations such as IGL being an obsolete role and monesy + donk not being top5 i believe Kassad has earned the right to call thorins last take medium spicy XD
jl is insane but if he was in donk position as a aggressive rifle with 3 bot teammates and Shiro who is passive as hell i think he do much worse. same with niko.
Going on that last hot take, if Astralis bomb out of the major again, do we see Device to Falcons with Niko? Reunite with zonic and magisk, possibly dupreeh if they keep him over maden, and it gives him a structured IGL in snappi. If monesy doesn’t follow niko, I think that could be a great move for falcons on all fronts, as device is absolutely an upgrade to sunpayus.
Even before the player break, Ultimate was playing out of his mind for Liquid. He's top fragging most games as well. Ultimate is 100% a top 5 AWPer this year.
I think Liquid (-Yekindar) and Col (-JT) would both be better teams with Hooxi, and it’s certainly worth waiting a season to try and grab that NA bag. Falcons for Snappi is also sort of a wash and a legit option.
In the last 3 months, on LAN, against top20 or better teams, here is the ranking and ratings (hltv): Zywoo - 1.32 m0NESY - 1.31 donk - 1.26 Niko 1.25 B1t - 1.23 Sh1ro Frozen JL
Thorin is getting crazy since from the 1st sentence of Kasaad take kasaad: ."Donk... is not in the top5..." Thorin: whuaaoot naioewshgawhgbnvw gvavowaijergWE!!!???? 🤯🤯😵😵 maui: chopper is sending him to his death! He's done sooooo much for this series what else you want him to do??
Astralis should bring back Hunden and recruit Config. Stop caring about results but make their money by creating documentaries of all the backstabbing drama 😜
Kassad or NAssad? Maybe even a bunch of hedgehogs and a fake beard? The smiling capybara continues to hold on to his secrets despite yet again parting with his hottest of takes.
My hot take hooxi to liquid Since Astralis didn't take him It gives a new life to that rivalary As for who take out -yekindar Also hooxi is a serviceable karrigan
Kassads top 5:
1. Niko
2. Mouz Niko
3. Niko with blond hair
4. Faze Niko
5. Fat Niko
Lol 😂
I love this list hahhaha
facts. G2 this G2 that
He is absolutely correct though
Mous NiKo is fat NiKo
Sooo maybe IGL NiKo at #5 eh
the only way that first take makes sense is if kassad has secretly broke donk's arm without telling anyone else lmao
love your content, do more analyst desk work
Nah he’s mid
(I’m rage baiting)
I came back to this cause Kassad is kind of right, the players he mentioned are all better against top 10 and top 5 teams in the past 3 months
It doesnt lmao If he had eye for talent he would be managing a T1 team
@@davids8127 his team isn’t t1, he himself doesn’t call it t1. It’s t2. Still doing well, but it isn’t t1 lol
That first take is SOOOO INSAAAANE
Right lmaoo hes not even naming Xantares or ppl like that 😅 Frozen and B1t hahahahaha
@TonyKalashnikov Faze is my team and no chance I'm taking Frozen top 5
Xantares in top 5😂😂😂 good one@@TonyKalashnikov
@@lipaalbankain the context of the take , top 5 right now, today, there definitely is an argument to be made.
@@TonyKalashnikov you think he is top 5 rn?
Thorin: "hey Kassad, we need something absurd and dumb so people engage in comments"
Kassad: "I got just the thing, my friend".
fr this is just pure bait
Smart to put it as the first take too
I gotta say though, it might be genuine given Thorin & Maui's reactions
Kassad should be recognized as a unesco international treasure, we need to acknowledge he is simply a genius
"JL has a better team therefore he's ranked higher than donk as a player" Kassad 2024
Had Maui said anything like that he would've had a hissy fit.
I mean he did say that he's above him because he's literally stomped in him on the server, not by comparison. jL went nuclear against donk, that has nothing to do with having better teammates
@@JuicyG_ any team that beats the number one team once immediately takes their place until someone then beats them then, right?
Yeah lol you said this way better than me 😅
@@JuicyG_if we go by that argument then jL isn't shit because his rating drops massively in Bo5s.
I was really hoping Kassad was going to say Wicadia as he was listing off players he thought were better than Donk. I just wanted him to do it as a joke for the reaction.
kassad - most mental takes so he stays in the theme of the show
maui - meme takes to stay true to his goofy quirky persona
Thorin - mildest takes of all time so he can go back and say he was right
Thorin's takes are flaming hot if you're a pleb on twitter, but to fans of the show they're mild
The first joke was so funny i couldnt take it anymore 😂 i literally just muted my brain when kassad started his reasonings
The first take is the worst take this show has ever had, Kassad must be trolling 🤣
I don’t get the first take. It’s started off as a donk isn’t top five take but then it became about how spirit rely on him so much. That seems like to me, he’s so impactful that his team needs him to perform insanely just to win
Kassad is just trolling.. I think it's his way to answer all the "He knows nothing about the game" nonsense.
Don’t watch this show for good takes, watch it for the comedy
Kassad should've said that since the player break mezzi (who is 4th player on Vitality) has a better rating than donk vs top 10 teams and almost similar rating vs top 5
well yeah that's going to happen when you're as maui said getting sent in to dry peak entry 1v3 vs top 10 opponents, he's literally getting shit on harder by chopper than any other team and he's still got a positive rating lol.
Pretty insane. Post player break has Donk had a good series vs top 5 team? I think ZywOo post player break is clearly the best player against top 5 teams.
so we're ragebaiting
I was crying laughing that whole first take. I love kassad so much lmao
Kassads first take is psychotic, and I am here for it!
This show is the best. Keep it up Kassad, I love the takes
I think I understand what Kassad means when he says IGL is not a necessary role if you have the right players, its kinda like the total football philosophy of Johan Cruiff if youre familiar with that. His vision was that if everyone can play every position you can achieve a very fluid style of football and it proved very effective (tho obviously not to the extent that EVERYONE is able to play EVERY position). In CS I suppose you could theoretically reach that with players like monesy/niko who clearly have a good read on the game. In fact I think this is maybe kind of what Blade is trying to do in Navi as well with trying to make bit the "playmaker" who is allowed to go for timings/reads (tho im basing that on some comment from either another podcast or just an actual yt comment lol). I just think CS doesnt quite work that way with how taxing it usually is on aim to have to think about the macro play constantly. The closest we wil get to that is teams like current Navi and era Astralis where team cohesion is so good and obviously those teams both have/had very respectable IGLs anyway.
Cant believe I spent like 10 minutes typing out a comment no one will read lmao
@@Catangerine I actually think that we kinda had it in cs in Fnatic ~2016 when they had Dennis. They were just a bunch of great players and most of them had a great understanding of a game so they could be playmakers. But u still must have a guy who is gonna make that last call, like gather all the info from players and make it. It just doesn't work without it since your playmakers are so isolated and you don't want them to kinda overthink and both try to make a play and think of a call at the same time. Also it works better when 1 guy has all the responsibility to call since star palyers in their mind can just blame him and not ruin the confidence in themselves when their call loses them the round (kinda what happened to Niko and yekindar, who thought that being a 2nd called is the same a IGLing)
@@Molsdas Fnatic is a good shout too with players like Flusha, Olof and JW. The dennis roster was considerably worse and achieved a lot less though than the one with pronax (which also had the famous pronax timeouts which would pretty much always lead to round wins for fnatic). And once again thats an era level team like Astralis where it all just clicked perfectly.
So yeah I think IGL is definitely an important role that we wont see leaving the game for a long time if ever. I would be super interested to hear Blade's take on this though and how he has approached making this current navi team and how he views the roles of his players because I still think his vision is the closest to it.
Donk is literally the highest rated player at ESL pro league 🤣😂😂
not against top teams, he's actually at the bottom in that case
@@zizzyballuba4373 Donk - Zywoo- frozen - monesy-z4kr- JL
@@zizzyballuba4373 yeah, because all top teams they played in EPL is Navi and they lost to them.
@@milliondollarart check last three months
@2neutrino that's still not going to show donk farming weak teams and getting smashed by strong teams.
yo pass the pipe Kassad pass the pipe lmao
I love Kassad, unhinged.
Thorin be interrupting and cutting off the bois more than usual. We climbing the spectrum with this one.
Cold take: this show is the best in esports
why did i know that first take was gonna be from kassad 😭
😂😂😂😂😂 love this ep so much. One of the best ones!!
Oh how I’ve missed this show 😂 I love it
This show is so goated, Never fails to make me laugh
Kassad: donk is not a top 5 player
Thorin & Maui: yes he is
Kassad: He is surrounded by bums. He has to drop 1.70 every series to win
This is the best show in esports
MAKE THESE MORE OFTEN BEST SERIES
Hopping on the kassad hate train after that first take
“Men shouldn’t say goofball” is the best hot take on any of these episodes
this is 1 billion % fire im just going to say it straight up without watching it yet. now i'll take my own sweet time watching it. lets fucking go!!
I love Kassad so much. He truly understands this show.
Never change kassad. You are a treasure to the CS community
I don't think kaSaad and Maui ever managed to complete their whole point in this episode
with proclamations such as IGL being an obsolete role and monesy + donk not being top5 i believe Kassad has earned the right to call thorins last take medium spicy XD
Bro saw that elbow shot and wrote that ultimate hot take
Only a top 5 player could hit that elbow shot tbh
best show in sports/esports hands down 😂
jl is insane but if he was in donk position as a aggressive rifle with 3 bot teammates and Shiro who is passive as hell i think he do much worse. same with niko.
The first take almost gave Thorin a heart attack 😂
Best CS show out there
While watching, you think hmm... this is so ridiculous and then... it gets somehow more. Best episode ever of this show xD.
Started laughing my ass off at the trains station because of that first take, fair enough Kassad
Maui’s first point about ultimate is just facts
These are some movie poster level thumbnails. 🔥
Going on that last hot take, if Astralis bomb out of the major again, do we see Device to Falcons with Niko? Reunite with zonic and magisk, possibly dupreeh if they keep him over maden, and it gives him a structured IGL in snappi. If monesy doesn’t follow niko, I think that could be a great move for falcons on all fronts, as device is absolutely an upgrade to sunpayus.
I love this show, I can't stop smiling throughout the whole thing
Even before the player break, Ultimate was playing out of his mind for Liquid. He's top fragging most games as well. Ultimate is 100% a top 5 AWPer this year.
you know its a good video when im already crying of laughter 7 mins in
Kassad is working for niko, to get donk into falcons so hes starting narratives xd
Lmao, Kassad already won the episode with his first nuke.
MAJ3R is one of my favorite igls to watch recently.
Read the title, thought to myself “what is Maui up to this time”. Realised it was Kassad, I don’t know what to say
God, I'm so glad kassad is part of this show. 😂
Also, 1:22:38 is fucking foul lmfao.
I came back to this cause Kassad is kind of right, the players he mentioned are all better against top 10 and top 5 teams in the past 3 months
Note to self: Never eat while watching this show. I damn near almost choked after kassads first take.
This is peak CS comedy 🤣
An absurd take like the first one is good for increasing engagement 😂
Maui wasn't the only insane on this episode
For that last take, i can easily see Device in Falcons in 2025.
The Nexa jokes 💀Dona are you there?!
First take is crazy, maybe a better way to put it is, jL is the most impactful and big game player rn
Kassad literally said you dont need an igl anymore and it didnt even made the top 5 on craziness on this episode (much like donk)
Navi is a joy to watch im feeling thank you
it pisses me off that kassad seems to be too lazy to buy a proper mic for this show but on the other hand it perfectly fits his insane takes lol
Just in time for a long drive ❤
Couples months ago they said navi won’t lift a trophy and here we go now navi have the best fire power
Thanks ❤
LoL craziest reddit was right ✅️ 😅😂 best 5 minute intro ever. Donk #1 🎉
56:20 I am now determined to find a context to use this saying around my friends LOL.
HE PREPARED!!! KASSAD PREPARED!!!🎉😂
when niko goes to falcons, monesy goes to navi
Duncan "by the way" Shields.
The ultra giga omega master troll face of death and disaster just dropped by kassad 06:00
I wonder what kind of spice is kassad smoking before the show, seems like some expensive stuff
I think Liquid (-Yekindar) and Col (-JT) would both be better teams with Hooxi, and it’s certainly worth waiting a season to try and grab that NA bag.
Falcons for Snappi is also sort of a wash and a legit option.
I'm literally crying at 10am LMAAO
best click bait ever, i enjoyed this and laughed.
In the last 3 months, on LAN, against top20 or better teams, here is the ranking and ratings (hltv):
Zywoo - 1.32
m0NESY - 1.31
donk - 1.26
Niko 1.25
B1t - 1.23
Sh1ro
Frozen
JL
now list them in order of kpr
As for the first hot take, I would like to announce that Kassad is in my eyes… effing dead. hahahaha jk
Outrageous
Thorin is getting crazy since from the 1st sentence of Kasaad take
kasaad: ."Donk... is not in the top5..."
Thorin: whuaaoot naioewshgawhgbnvw gvavowaijergWE!!!???? 🤯🤯😵😵
maui: chopper is sending him to his death! He's done sooooo much for this series what else you want him to do??
knew *that* hot take had to come from kassad
3rd hot take mislabeled, donk WILL be the goat 🐐thorin promised
I love Kassad. He gives me life
Astralis should bring back Hunden and recruit Config. Stop caring about results but make their money by creating documentaries of all the backstabbing drama 😜
So basically early French CSGO? 🤣🤣
I already knew who was going to have that take, had to be kassad
b1t is a top 3 player is already a wild enough take Kassad LMAO
Juicy!!
imagine this is ur coach ... and you hear from him "M0NESY AND DONK ARE NOT TOP 5 PLAYERS" u as player are fucking doomed :D
Kassad or NAssad? Maybe even a bunch of hedgehogs and a fake beard? The smiling capybara continues to hold on to his secrets despite yet again parting with his hottest of takes.
I knew it was gonna be good from the first take but even 5:30 had me crying
M0nesy is so insanely good, how can you think this????
Kassad has a potato for a brain.
Maui's ultimate take is goated
Someone tell Thorin that it's swisher not swiffer lmao
God I love this show. Kassad is a lunatic.
Dont let Dona see this💀
Kassad's take is obviously rage bait and goddammit it's working
My hot take hooxi to liquid
Since Astralis didn't take him
It gives a new life to that rivalary
As for who take out -yekindar
Also hooxi is a serviceable karrigan
Kassad wonders why no one takes him seriously.