HooXi Finally Gets Benched / f0rest's comeback? - Snake & Banter 62 ft NartOutHere

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
  • Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by content creator "NartOutHere" to discuss HooXi's benching on G2, TeSeS staying at Heroic, rumors of HeavyGod joining Cloud9, f0rest's lack of recent competitive play, jL's statements during recent interviews, the ugly situation regarding ICY, and more.
    NartOutHere's UA-cam channel:‪@nartouthere‬
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    Snake & Banter is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Alex "Mauisnake" Ellenberg, themed around each individual selecting a good, bad and ugly topic to discuss.
    This video was recorded on July 1st, 2024.
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    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:05:35 - NartOutHere's good point (Heroic keep TeSeS)
    0:14:35 - Mauisnake's good point (HeavyGod to Cloud9 rumors)
    0:21:53 - Thorin's good point (HooXi benched by G2)
    0:40:59 - NartOutHere's bad point (CS offseason timing)
    0:50:39 - Mauisnake's bad point (f0rest isn't competing)
    1:05:23 - Thorin's bad point (jL's recent interviews)
    1:18:08 - NartOutHere's ugly point (ICY x Cloud9 x AMKAL situation)
    1:28:08 - Mauisnake's ugly point (Kjaerbye joins JiJieHao)
    1:35:23 - Thorin's ugly point (CS community doesn't appreciate content)
    #CS2
    #podcast
    #Thorin
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  • @nartouthere
    @nartouthere 12 днів тому +249

    Thanks for having me on Thorin and Maui!

    • @tech4172
      @tech4172 12 днів тому +2

      Gj nart

    • @aero5098
      @aero5098 12 днів тому +7

      Love your content nart, plz come on more podcasts love hearing you talk cs ! ❤

    • @gregorbensa
      @gregorbensa 9 днів тому

      everything good but I don't agree with your bad point as valve just corrected this by having the major as the last event of the season from shanghai major forward

  • @mojommmm
    @mojommmm 12 днів тому +81

    i’m still dying over “vitality should pick up niko as an IGL”

    • @borofreak
      @borofreak 11 днів тому

      The way that's been framed, I hope everyone understands that it's not his sister who cause this, but his decision to attend her wedding. Because it's still a decision he can make.
      UNLESS he already knew about this, which would make it an easy choice to attend it if he's already out.

  • @EntrEsprit
    @EntrEsprit 12 днів тому +85

    I can't believe Hooxi sister's wedding basically just got him benched

    • @johankaku
      @johankaku 12 днів тому

      Destiny 😂

    • @singular9
      @singular9 12 днів тому +1

      Key thing, it was all part of the plan.

    • @Husqiy
      @Husqiy 12 днів тому +5

      Sister was getting sick of it and got married to cut him

    • @mikeadams6036
      @mikeadams6036 12 днів тому

      I think Hooxi's calling and play for the last 6 months is what got him benched, the wedding just determined his replacement

    • @EntrEsprit
      @EntrEsprit 12 днів тому +1

      ​@@mikeadams6036 yeah obviously his performance is what caused it, but it's still funny how G2 winning the tourney in this exact moment became the turning point for their management to finally commit to that decision lol

  • @15lp15
    @15lp15 12 днів тому +34

    we need an emergency episode on the snax signing!

  • @Dean_AZN
    @Dean_AZN 12 днів тому +29

    -Hooxin +Snax is actually wild

    • @juanframetallica82
      @juanframetallica82 12 днів тому +3

      Got better fragging but worse calling. This move can backfire massively

    • @aa4a-a4
      @aa4a-a4 12 днів тому

      I like snax but he's not that good of a caller

    • @cm386464
      @cm386464 12 днів тому

      Taz 🤷

    • @TYLERLOVESBMX1
      @TYLERLOVESBMX1 11 днів тому

      @@juanframetallica82 have you seen GL's roster? youre delusional

    • @zettour.
      @zettour. 11 днів тому

      ​@@juanframetallica82You can't get much worse calling than HooXi. He's got good strats, but I'd rather ask the 8-ball sticker than go to HooXi for what to do in a midround. The first 10 seconds of a round decide it for G2 as a team, unless m0NESY/NiKo put up a multikill. Absolutely clueless at developing a round, reading opposing teams, or calling around his players. G2's No. 1 issue since Day 1 has been the teamwork and at least half of that is due to the piss poor calling. With HooXi at the helm, G2 have never looked like they had any idea what any of their players are doing at any point in time. Move him to coach where he belongs.
      Also, Snax didn't have much time with the new GL roster. The old roster was doing nothing. I've seen people criticize GL's T-side, but that's ignoring that their Top 3 maps are Overpass, Nuke, and Ancient. That's the Top 3 most CT-sided maps in the pool right now. Not everyone can be peak Astralis where you just have an unbeatable T-side Nuke, a map where the only control T-side has is Lobby.

  • @thijmenvanderkolk9033
    @thijmenvanderkolk9033 12 днів тому +34

    2nd favorite podcast behind htpm

  • @FelixKaff
    @FelixKaff 12 днів тому +46

    Oh.. I thought it was Dexter joining in..
    It was Nart. XD

    • @FelixKaff
      @FelixKaff 12 днів тому +1

      Like, when the hell did Dexter join NaVi?! XD

    • @richard-jy4lr
      @richard-jy4lr 12 днів тому +7

      I'm Asian and thought the same xd

    • @keepcalm3547
      @keepcalm3547 12 днів тому +2

      @@richard-jy4lr ditto

    • @stylebreaks757
      @stylebreaks757 12 днів тому

      he looks more like Ana from dota

  • @josephadcock7449
    @josephadcock7449 12 днів тому +8

    Oh my god G2 Snax

  • @wraethcs2
    @wraethcs2 12 днів тому +4

    Dexter, the kids called, they miss you back down under!

  • @outkripper8272
    @outkripper8272 12 днів тому +2

    Awesome seeinng Nart with these guys!

  • @paradoxofgodexisting
    @paradoxofgodexisting 11 днів тому +3

    Nart: Thorin, you honestly intimidate me. 😟
    Also Nart after every other joke: 😐 poker 😐 fakin 😐 face 😐

  • @fyroe
    @fyroe 12 днів тому +6

    Thorins metaphors were out of pocket in this one 😂

  • @ims0ul
    @ims0ul 12 днів тому +4

    I am now calling it: Liquid HooXi
    Edit: Welcome fnatic f0rest and cadian?

  • @zertbrown4642
    @zertbrown4642 12 днів тому +1

    whoa I didnt expect nartouthere to be on the podcast

  • @itscipher
    @itscipher 12 днів тому +1

    i didn’t expect a zach lowe reference today! 2 of my worlds crossing over was cool to listen to. nice show

  • @swimmingchicken7254
    @swimmingchicken7254 11 днів тому +2

    Nart: With... Hooxi... if you look at his numbers... there like... all red...

    • @Alex_zer0_Shoveller
      @Alex_zer0_Shoveller 11 днів тому +1

      he does nade lineup videos, which isn’t really podcast material i guess
      i was hoping he’d have more input but it was a 2 man podcast

  • @ArthurStephenHicks
    @ArthurStephenHicks 12 днів тому

    On the topic of content, I’m glad we have such a plethora of great content and talk shows. Most of it being at least somewhat tangentially connected to Thorin and RL.

  • @beamer_boi
    @beamer_boi 12 днів тому +3

    i needed this rn

  • @brajjko
    @brajjko 12 днів тому +1

    Bro when thoorin said about G2 "im guessing their next player is an igl, im just guessing". We all knew he had info 😂. What a king.

  • @nevalscisiruj3607
    @nevalscisiruj3607 12 днів тому +17

    As a regular viewer of the show, I am disappointed with Nart's appearance as a guest in this episode. He wasn't very communicative and didn't willingly involve himself in the conversation. Additionally, he didn't thoroughly elaborate on his points, which often led to awkward silence as Thorin and Maui expected him to say more.

    • @Xman-tp7bp
      @Xman-tp7bp 11 днів тому +9

      He is a more reserved person and this is one of his first appearances on a podcast. He will get better the more podcasts he appears on.

    • @vinceington2540
      @vinceington2540 11 днів тому +1

      True. Being reserved etc. is OK but elaborate your fucking point man. It is the concept of the (any...?) show.

    • @danboing3864
      @danboing3864 11 днів тому

      It's unfortunate but expected if you've ever seen any of his free-flow content (Pick Em videos, his own podcasts, patch reactions, etc). He just has a problem with expanding on anything.

    • @vinceington2540
      @vinceington2540 11 днів тому

      @@danboing3864 yeah thats all fine and maybe hes the nicest guy ever but don't bring him into a show where the whole purpose is to articulate your thoughts then?!

    • @danboing3864
      @danboing3864 11 днів тому

      @@vinceington2540 "Expected *if you've ever seen any of his free-flow content* ". If we look at that list, realistically how much of it has Thorin seen? I really, really doubt that he watches Nart's Pick Em videos or patch reactions, and the only podcast I can think of of Nart's Thorin might have seen is that one on women in esports he's referenced a couple of times on BTN/other shows in a comedic sense because it had like 15 women and then Anders on the panel for some reason.

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 12 днів тому +2

    Another Snake & Banger 🔥

  • @BiggestBrainBro
    @BiggestBrainBro 12 днів тому +22

    Nart was really bad on this podcast. Please no more. He added nothing and legit just wasn’t following the convo and had to ask you what your question was multiple times.

    • @gwendoll5578
      @gwendoll5578 12 днів тому +1

      @@BiggestBrainBro you can be more encouraging to someone who is new to this dick head

  • @BMJYDK
    @BMJYDK 12 днів тому

    Good show as always, Nart a fab guest too.

  • @NadesOutHere
    @NadesOutHere 11 днів тому

    legendary, great episode 🔥🔥🔥

  • @alac431
    @alac431 12 днів тому +1

    Finally I know who is constantly commenting on all CS content

  • @michaelwence690
    @michaelwence690 12 днів тому +3

    Aren’t the majors going forward going to be the last tournament before the player break (tournament break). Pretty sure that’s been known for a while now. This should’ve been an ugly point since the schedule got scuffed due to the release timing of CS2. Therefore we didn’t get a fall/winter major in 2023 and we got an early Major for 2024. But that all gets straightened out by Shanghai. And by 2025 things should be smooth.

    • @csCherry
      @csCherry 11 днів тому

      Bit of a moot point yes.

  • @josephdegrazia9028
    @josephdegrazia9028 12 днів тому +2

    I'd love to see f0rest back in action on a legit lineup but it doesnt help his case that his latest tweets are about him competing in apex haha

  • @fVNzO
    @fVNzO 12 днів тому +1

    exceedingly rare tremendously based mauisnake segment

  • @Yougotbaited24
    @Yougotbaited24 12 днів тому +3

    Nart looks like Dexter’s little brother

  • @astar2394
    @astar2394 10 днів тому

    Thorin calling maui a norbert day trader is one of the funniest things ive heard in a while

  • @72hrs_vermithor
    @72hrs_vermithor 12 днів тому +2

    Maui glorious as always

  • @dave23122
    @dave23122 11 днів тому +2

    nart didnt have much to say 😮

  • @MrStefan1221
    @MrStefan1221 11 днів тому

    40:59 Valve could "force" a player break by installing a period of a month after the majors where tournaments don't count towards the Valve ranking. They would have to announce this a couple of years in advance together with the new majors so there can be planned around it

  • @Isitar
    @Isitar 12 днів тому

    Great vid, thx - so true the reflections on content creators - lol, but also sad.

  • @AngelAsianMusic
    @AngelAsianMusic 12 днів тому

    you needed to wait just a few hours to include snax as IGL in this episode

  • @evanroy4143
    @evanroy4143 12 днів тому

    Yeah nartouthere is a crucial resource

  • @MrAkshat1998
    @MrAkshat1998 12 днів тому +1

    Fire content

  • @SuggishFish
    @SuggishFish 12 днів тому +3

    world class banana-taker like niko

  • @renaldasp1
    @renaldasp1 11 днів тому

    "The Best There Is, the Best There Was, the Best There Ever Will Be" - jL, talking about Thorin

  • @yume8666
    @yume8666 12 днів тому +1

    LMAO Thorin again uploading a podcast right before another roster move

  • @blink2665
    @blink2665 12 днів тому +2

    Snax for the vibes

  • @dunemeister5718
    @dunemeister5718 10 днів тому

    I wish By the Numbers was still around for a live reaction to Hussein and Osama

  • @unquietvoid
    @unquietvoid 10 днів тому

    zoolander jl skit idea had me creasin

  • @dayne6475
    @dayne6475 12 днів тому +1

    Kjaerbye already played for Jijihao before he had his showmatch, no?

  • @MusicJunkie37
    @MusicJunkie37 12 днів тому +2

    W for the f0rest topic

  • @pkftw4166
    @pkftw4166 12 днів тому

    I thought they were getting NartInHere. But this Out guy is better.

  • @mauriciobetimpaesleme8702
    @mauriciobetimpaesleme8702 13 годин тому

    41:42 We need a Transfer Window... after a couple of months roster are locked until the next transfer window.
    In football you have player break and transfer window, that is a much better way of telling teams, you have X amount of time to see if you need to make a desperate move after that, work it out.

  • @vaneakristiuk888
    @vaneakristiuk888 12 днів тому

    Nart seems to be cool guy!

  • @louiecs2
    @louiecs2 12 днів тому

    W guests!

  • @ErikSWE
    @ErikSWE 8 днів тому

    Don’t know who NartOutHere but coming on a show and barely even listen to what the hosts are talking about less so engage with their points or add his own was certainly a choice.

  • @rahuliyer-x1j
    @rahuliyer-x1j 12 днів тому

    Oh my word.. Nart! hahahaha great

  • @radrussian3289
    @radrussian3289 9 днів тому

    mentioning zorte is so funny

  • @nadesun7075
    @nadesun7075 11 днів тому

    Daytrading norbert is crazy

  • @alexcollazo7796
    @alexcollazo7796 12 днів тому

    Nart, hardworking as always. You have made it 🎉

  • @piosab
    @piosab 12 днів тому

    Nart my GOAT

  • @AndyChatsFPL
    @AndyChatsFPL 11 днів тому +1

    This guest has less opinions than my fucking dog lol

  • @givemeajackson
    @givemeajackson 11 днів тому

    the optimism in this episode is hilarious. "anybody is gonna be an upgrade over hooxi for G2, they're gonna go far from here" 3 hours later and they announce... snax????

  • @WreveAU
    @WreveAU 12 днів тому +2

    Comment for the algorithm

  • @kalisti2323
    @kalisti2323 12 днів тому +2

    f0rest to fnatic, I'd be watching every game!

    • @KeefeL
      @KeefeL 12 днів тому +1

      Assuming they either get invited or make it to the bigger tournies...!

  • @Viper4975
    @Viper4975 11 днів тому

    This is for sure going down in history as the most unprepared and nervous guest on snb and thats only because locodoco isnt in this scene

  • @NicholasEllis-rs3nx
    @NicholasEllis-rs3nx 12 днів тому +1

    Stopped listening at Shelfey for 500k

  • @tvrment
    @tvrment 12 днів тому

    l miss norbertpass :_(

  • @EXiLExJD
    @EXiLExJD 12 днів тому +7

    Nice to see Nart on a podcast, hope he does more

    • @illastration1
      @illastration1 12 днів тому +11

      I don't know who he is but I don't think was a good format for him. He was just making an objective statement and then stopping. Not even giving his opinion. Thorin and Maui paused waiting for his opinion that never came...

    • @Kirbydreaming
      @Kirbydreaming 12 днів тому +3

      @@illastration1 No charisma no nothing..... boring guest.

  • @Hornnnnnn
    @Hornnnnnn 12 днів тому

    let us praise the g2 management for just farming topics for these shows.

  • @minibeech03
    @minibeech03 12 днів тому

    to be fair kjaerby and cadian really try harded in the copenhagen show match against ecstatic. Like they really shit on them.

  • @xxSportsxxProxx
    @xxSportsxxProxx 12 днів тому

    Nart❤

  • @nameonelast598
    @nameonelast598 12 днів тому

    Just commented to state how disappointed I am with G2 picking up Snax

  • @ThxKira
    @ThxKira 11 днів тому

    snax to g2 LMAO i need the new episode up

  • @imik_plays
    @imik_plays 12 днів тому

    I watch because of Nart

  • @zizzyballuba4373
    @zizzyballuba4373 12 днів тому +10

    JL_1_Major vs Th-0-majors-rin

  • @floofy1
    @floofy1 9 днів тому +1

    lol i never want to see this Nart guy on last free nation ever again. A hltv faceit level 7 probably knows more about cs, than him. Thorin if you're reading, the next time you think of getting Nart as a guest. you might as well pick any faceit 10 from hltv, or just pick me, im faceit 9 atm with only 175 matches (spend most of my time watching and following pro cs scene). I can do 8 times better than this guy. also have 13 years of cs experience (on and off cause irl commitments)

  • @Hornnnnnn
    @Hornnnnnn 12 днів тому

    Snax pulling up to play with m0nesy after being a bum for 6 years

  • @LinhLe-rs7fr
    @LinhLe-rs7fr 12 днів тому +2

    Guys pack it up. Half of the CS shows now have nothing to talk about after HooXi is kicked!

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 12 днів тому +3

      -snax will be the new thing don't worry

    • @aa4a-a4
      @aa4a-a4 12 днів тому

      ​@@georgbergsten6050g2 gotta keep the content coming

  • @luckstur
    @luckstur 12 днів тому

    W

  • @LshowKnows
    @LshowKnows 6 днів тому

    27:22 What Nart said was simply complete bs... Not only do they have essentially the same stats, Hooxi literally has multiple moments (specially back in Kato and Cologne) where he won G2 important rounds, heck he even carried them against Navi on Anubis this last major where Hunter and Niko decided to take a nap. No offense to Nat, but his statement was basically a copy paste of reddit comments made by people who never actually watch the games

  • @emanueljohansson4895
    @emanueljohansson4895 12 днів тому

    Man I love thoorin, but honestly, stop bashing JL. JL is just a wholesome guy vibing in cs community.

  • @cutile1472
    @cutile1472 12 днів тому

    .

  • @smartex5651
    @smartex5651 11 днів тому

    Ye ye hooxi finally benched and they got snax.... just bring back hooxi PL is just permanent loss

  • @singular9
    @singular9 12 днів тому

    Hooxi is not a tactician, he simply knew top tier team weaknesses and exploited them. These were things that always existed and no one noticed.
    Today, 50% of these tactics do not work anymore and the other 50% are so simple that even faceit pugs use them.

  • @SoulReaper66623
    @SoulReaper66623 12 днів тому +1

    typical low confidence hapa, using "like" every 3 words. exhausting to listen to

  • @mikestar7326
    @mikestar7326 12 днів тому

    Thorin needs learn how to let other people talk

    • @illastration1
      @illastration1 12 днів тому +1

      He was trying to get the guest to talk but the guy had nothing to say...

    • @bomsta1433
      @bomsta1433 12 днів тому +1

      He did much better than the last episode with Spunj