According to the automatic captions, you found a lot of different rings, namely: annulled, man old, an auld, Renauld, nolde, an old heal ring, medalled, nigel, angel, Rene Joel, nasal, and 3 missile J. I particularly liked the 5% man is stolen pitman old at 9:21. "and aerial" has been generous to you.
Haven't played D2 in quite some years, but I recall that both Manald and Nagel have a rarity of 15 and SoJ has a rarity of 1, so each unique ring from NM Andy should have a 1/31 chance of being a SoJ. You're right on the curve, not above, not below :P Quite a nice experiment!
I've imagined that many times too. Sometimes I go stand next to Cain with all these unique unidentified items and drop them next to him. Just to pretend he's getting tortured. Then the game crashes and I lose them all.
im a new player and ive been consistently dreaming about dropping a Ber/Jah rune for the last week. A couple of times, I would jump up from my bed and check my characters inventory and be sad that it wasn't there LMFAO
Excellent demonstration of the power of a larger samplesize. Stone of jordan would appear on 1 : 31 rings dropped from andariel nightmare, something that would result in 3 : 93, of wich you got. And the same for 30% nagelrings. they are 15 : 31 turns out to be a nagel, so out of 100 it would be around 47 nagelrings, and 1 : 16 of those will be 30, wich is 3 : 48, wich is also what you ended up with. You hit the exact average in this demonstration, not lucky, not unlucky. Nice video
Good demonstration on how rare it is even from nightmare Andariel. Some people talk about farming her with the tone of "just go and get it, man" but it can really take a while.
Well. Assuming he put the oldest rings from the start of the project on top and then went down, he had an soj in the first 20 rings. Thats a couple hundred runs maybe, and a good fire sorc with a decent map can pump that out pretty quick.
@@wroogny couple of hundred runs where each run you dont get it you get nothing, nothing of value. Maybe it is the technical fastest way to specifically get sojs and only sojs but this is a good case scenario, bad case it will be your 50th unique ring after a thousand runs and you will have nothing else to show for it. Only a sadist would do this.
it's the thingie with chance. I gambled it and it only took a few times. Tried to do that again - possibly not 2205 times, but it never happened again xD
I’m farming nm Andariel today for hours and only got one unic ring, a manald. LoL! I was feeling bad but after watching this video I got my strengths renewed! Thx!! 😂
3 SoJ in 2205 is about 750 per 1. That's not bad at all.I never knew it was so easy to farm SoJs.. You gotta remember that NM is so easy compared to Hell. Resist are much easier on NM so you can pack more magic find. Dbrunski I think you're out of touch with the common player who doesn't have uber characters with Infinities and Enigmas. It's quite easy to kill NM Andy for almost anyone and on average you can get 1 SoJ for 750 runs? That's not bad. I'm going to do some NM Andy runs later today after seeing this video. I only have 1 SoJ in my entire stash.
Fun fact: Nagel is pronounced as Na'g'hel, in old european languages referring to "Nail Ring". You can see in German and Dutch both retaining old germanic spoken language still using Nagel to this day. Since this a gothic themed game i'm almost 1000% sure this was their aim a "Nail ring" not a Neigel ring.
You're not wrong, but at the same time, why should an English native speaker bother changing his or her pronunciation just to be historically or linguistically accurate? Like, who the fuck gives a shit?
I have never made that much of runs, but back then I had a necro, who easily got 2 soj (one from Andy and another one from a cow level). I doubt I made 100 runs in both directions. Now I am playing resurrected and finally understand HOW lucky I were.
@@GamersOdyssey So happy for you, man! Yeah, I did already like 1000 runs, i guess, no SoJ yet. I guess that Necro of mine was really lucky) Got a shitty Mara from cows chest though! The only one GG-item so far
I'm a little bit late to the party, but i look at it from the standpoint of trading. Even if i find less SoJ in Hell Andarial, i still find overall more expensive stuff that i can trade for an SoJ. That's why i never farm anything at Nightmare.
NM mephisto is pretty good early on at the start of ladder when you are trying to gear up to farm hell. He can drop all the good lvl 42 items like hoz, titans, occy, war travs etc. Most of which are quite valuable early on. But I agree, once you are geared up and can handle farming hell there's no reason to farm anything in nm.
I remembered the good old days of D2 on Bnet, where nagel > manald > SoJ spawns in order. So we would farm characters full of gold and buy rings off the merchant on a mule while carrying nagel + manald. Next unique ring that spawns off the merchant would be a guaranteed SoJ. :)
@@Purriah it's true though. They were considered unique so if you had Nagel and Manald on your character and you gambled another ring, the next unique would be a SoJ. Don't know when it was changed.
Sure... SoJ's have less odds in Hell difficulty, but it also feels really nice to find that 5% LL BK ring too that Hell tends to offer. I seem to find them just as often as SoJ's. I always told people to only farm Nightmare if their character struggles to farm Hell, or you feel your clear speed isn't fast enough yet to justify the difficulty increase.
I have found one Stone of Jordan. Still one of the best feelings I've had in my life. The very rare and valuable drops in this game are so amazing you remember them for years.
Been playing since classic 1.03, have only found 5 in that time. There are some items I've never seen drop such as Tyraels, Mangs Song Lesson, Cranium Basher and Asterons.
I’ve played for years! YEARS! And I just recently started playing again and I’ve only found 2 and one was yesterday..side note in 2021 the soj isn’t worth anything more. People literally give them away.
@@codyrisling3253 back on early versions before the expansion, sojs were prime currency, I'm sure you remember. P skulls had crazy value back then too.
D2 is from a different time. Less content was made up for by a higher grind factor, and we loved it. It's tough in modern times after being used to other games but yeah D2 is even worse than PoE in terms of getting GG endgame gear solo self found.
I decided not to play it. I played it a lot, farmed it a lot, enjoyed it a lot, but time have passed. There are a lot of better and more enjoyable games out there. Even with the updated graphics I don't want to struggle with it again. There is nothing new in it what I haven't done a decade ago.
@@Hippiaszful If I have to name those games, you are clearly not well informed about games on the market. D2 was one of the best of its time, but not anymore.
thanks for the hint that Andariel on Nightmare is a good source for SoJs! I got my first SoJ along with a 72 / 30 Nailring out of 10 unique rings. And now I have a lifetime supply of Cathan's Seal :D
After spending endless hours doing LK runs, sometimes enduring 1000+ run dry spells... NM Andy is a pleasure to run. I started playing when SOJs were still currency on BNET so they always have this special place in my heart. I don't mind spending an afternoon targeting them in NM. Your sorc is invincible in NM, the runs can be close to 15 seconds each with the right map, so youre virtually guaranteed one or two a day if you don't mind the monotony.
Our data showed after post Uber event the drop rate overall for SOJ’s went way down. We used to get them all the time before it. it’s fun seeing these runs again. We have some really good data on Pindle (we have all champs and bosses but Pindle is my fav) as well (24hr runs @17~19sec kill speeds).
Yeah, thats why a lot of people will be shocked on, how hard it is to geht some of the higher runes, without Dupes/Bots. But i guess in D2R there will be Bots too :/
@@StefanSentroshiReechani Im hoping the grinding is reworked. While I dont want it to be D3 easy. With a constant ladder reset every few months will make getting great builds near impossible on ladder.
@@Clear706 how do you know it's every few months? d2 ladder is once every 6 months i'm pretty sure. And trading makes great builds not very hard to make, unless you go for like perfect items or something.
Nice to see that there are so many of you out there, hardcore d2 enthusiasts... I have aswell been playing the game for over a decade, since 2005 approx, and I never thought that there are any crazy ass d2 fans that finished the game hundreds of times and done shit like this... Now I see that I am not the only one...
Question, the quest bug for Andy is only for nightmare runs? do you have to take the portal back to town every time and got to act2 or only on the first time killing her?
@@RayenR89 Thanks, after posting I realized that this was for single-player. Back in the day, I used to use an item viewer for battlenet d2 that always worked and was undetectable. Wondering if one still exists
I played Classic D2 ladder on closed BNet for a number of years, farmed Andy and Meph mercilessly, ID'd dozens of 30 MF Nagels, and I don't think I dropped more than 1 SOJ from her in all that time. In all those thousands of hours of play the only SOJs I ever got were, one from Hell or NM cows, and all others were just traded for. Imo this project was a bit duplicitous, 3/100 would've been a dream drop-rate in my experience, nevermind that you only got 3 perfect Nagels with it. I should've had dozens of SOJs at that rate! There was a bit of myth in the classic community about how best to farm SOJs, the most prevalent one being to MF NM Andy with 250-350 MF and you were "guaranteed" one every 50-100 runs, but I think both of our experiences thoroughly dispute that, and mine even more heavily than yours. Grats on your SOJs though, I'm still waiting to find ONE in PlugY single-player. Rough times out here in Diablo 2 land
Rng is rng. You can't expect the odds to act the same every time. Even 2205 runs is a very small sample in the grand scheme of things. Millions of samples would have to be collected to produce accurate results.
@@finalcam1740 Oh of course, that's why I feel like it was almost unfairly disproportionate. 3:3 is a really weird ratio of IDs for SOJs to PNagels and definitely exemplifies the nature of sample size. I feel like I'd ID'd hundreds of unique rings on a monthly basis and it was always so disheartening. PNagel eventually became Charsifood, I was tired of muling them I got that many. But those damn SOJs... it just made me wonder where everybody who I was trading with was getting theirs, or if I was somehow cosmically influenced to experience everyone else's bad RNG while they were getting paydays. As an aside, I also found no more than a half dozen Silks, Gulls, or Goldskins (those few items being somewhat commodified in classic ladder, not immensely so but enough to still give them value in bartering) in all my years and also only acquired through trading. I really felt like my odds were cursed, and on Closed BNet it was especially a thorn in your side because you could only make about 20 games/hr before Realm Down which really make it sting all the more bitterly: you MF as much as you can, as much as you're ALLOWED, but even meeting the quota is never enough!
Back in the day we used to gamble our gold away for SOJs I remember getting a few back then.But even the odds doing that seemed to be a lot higher then these odds.
Way way back in pre expac D2 there was a time where the game would drop the unique rings in order, based on what was in your inventory. So you'd carry a manald and nagel and gamble away, because if it came out unique it was a guaranteed SOJ
Used to play D2 when I was a teenager and never got one in the 2-3 years of playing. Recently started again on Plugy and was questing my way through the flyer jungle and a random bird dropped a unique ring, identified it and was my first ever SOJ! Made my day!
@@huntbones3363 it's a mod that allows you to do some stuff that your normally can't in single player. For example you can do ladder only runewords, there is an infinite stash (much like using a mule on battlenet) and you can kill the cow king and still go back into the cow level. Among other things. Makes the game more enjoyable as a single player game.
Diablo 2: Usually takes minimum 1 yr to find Soj sometimes years. Diablo 4: Given a Soj in first 5 minutes of the beta. This at its core is everything I hate about D3 and D4.
Judging by what I’ve seen in beta it looks like hot garbage imo. Now I know why so many people thought a D2 remaster was coming bc they blatantly released a copy pasted beta version of D2 with the itemization of D3 with upgraded graphics. If the loot/Itemization doesn’t receive a massive overhaul I for one will be sticking with Diablo 2 for another foreseeable 7-10 years.
Diablo 2 was arguably one of the best Blizzard games in the Diablo series of games ever made. I personally enjoyed it a lot more than Diablo 3 and it's expansions.
I'm buying a new computer this week I'm gonna get back into this game. I played D2 for like 14 years on and off and it's one my favorite games of all time. I haven't played in like 5 years and I'm really wanting to lol.
When you get around to installing it on windows 10 a blue box is going to appear and say it cant run, theres a small dropdown menu in that popup that will let you continue anyways Happy gaming
I also did a lot of these runs with 730%MF to 870%MF until I had 3 SoJ (I never found it before) : the 1st was the #48, the 2nd #114 and the 3rd #128. I also found 2 Tal Rashas's amulets but no Telling of Beads Amulet (both have ~1 to 1940 to drop) and 1 Immortal King's Will (~1 to 300) with 40%MF.
So back in the day, the odds on Andy n/m dropping an soj was 1/30, in that if a unique ring dropped from Andy n/m, 1/30 would be an soj. So you actually were meeting the curve, more or less. How much actual game play time did all this farming take?
The saddest times were d2. I had a group of buddies that would play all the time. We did this stuff, grind for days only to have botters and dupers lap us.
I think this about every video he has. Like most people, I got lost in the game and spent so much time on it. Then slowly the botting and duping just destroyed the game. Blizzard tried their best, but it was so early into anti-hacking in games they were always behind. Eventually all of us reached a point where we realized the game was just too far gone from what it was
@@DouglasCarter69 Depends on how And what Blizzard can do about it since the engine is the same The Servers are new though and maybe they can implement a hackshield or something to get rid of bots and dupes
@@user-ik2zr1cx1u It's pretty amazing they've been running this same basic engine for what - 20+ years now? Wonder how many other games can claim that. Hell, they even recycle the musical score. We are not a fickle fanbase. LOL!
thanks for this awesome and informative video! thanks for the hard work. I was just thinking of farming Andariel on NM myself, but now thanks to your video, I know better now ;)
What makes the SOJ soo valuable? I've got my sorc and druid in hell now and considering farming hell Andy for shako etc but outside of res rings I can't justify using skill rings?
Well, there is a old tip if you want SoJ, do tranvical runs till the council drops a set amulet. Pick it but do not indentify it, don't pick anything from the ground and start killing monsters, hit chests and barb find item - for this is good for sure - anything that can drop SoJ (iLvl 39). If you found a unique ring in this game, this is always be a SoJ (only the first one because when you pick anything it resets and only works on set amy from high council).
I found 3 sojs online manually in my life, i do remember them all because they are kind of rare for sure. One was from NM trist helping a friend, 2nd was from hell soul while clearing a baal throne and the last one was from hell diablo directly. Its one of those items that when you id it you're like hell yeah
Awesome videos man! Very informative and love tuning in to see your new content. I miss playing this game. How can I get it today to start playing again? Someone told me they closed up the severs but I didn't want to believe it. Thanks man!
Pardon my ignorance but do you have to go through the whole game to fight her again? I see in the video that you're exiting the floor and coming back...do they revive in the higher difficulties??
Dang dude, looks like you beat the odds pretty hard. At 775 MF (a conservative estimate based on what I believe your gear is just by looking at it), Andariel's SOJ drop odds are still 1:1321.
i just started yesterday d2 after 15-16 years last time played (never playd it serious, only some act 1-5 runs on normal) and i have no clue :D ok why is soj so good ? becouse the 1 to all skills ?
About a year ago during a session of random farming I found two SoJs and a Mara's within the same 30 minutes. I've quit since then because I kind of feel like I won the game. That's it. Never going to get that kind of luck again. Time to pack it in and retire.
@@ttvijimcarried8916 He's definetly not in hell, since he would id other rings than Manald and Nagel. The background video is indeed in hell, but that's just a filler.
According to the automatic captions, you found a lot of different rings, namely: annulled, man old, an auld, Renauld, nolde, an old heal ring, medalled, nigel, angel, Rene Joel, nasal, and 3 missile J. I particularly liked the 5% man is stolen pitman old at 9:21. "and aerial" has been generous to you.
Lmao perfect
This earned a gray belly laugh 😆
NICEE!! Now you got to do 100 unique rings Andy runs on HELL MODE ;), just to see the real ods compared ;) !!
@@Vanessarbp SURE!!! do it plz dbrunski ;)
LOLLL
Haven't played D2 in quite some years, but I recall that both Manald and Nagel have a rarity of 15 and SoJ has a rarity of 1, so each unique ring from NM Andy should have a 1/31 chance of being a SoJ. You're right on the curve, not above, not below :P Quite a nice experiment!
I imagine Deckard Cain is like "why is he not asking me for help to identify those rings?"
lol
I've imagined that many times too. Sometimes I go stand next to Cain with all these unique unidentified items and drop them next to him. Just to pretend he's getting tortured. Then the game crashes and I lose them all.
Thumbs up if you read this in a Deckard Cain voice too.
he will imagine. where did this guy get so many rings from. maybe he robbed some monasteries or huts.
Deckard keeps a 22% Nagelring on him in case you bring him a ring that he identifies as a Stone of Jordan he will give you that instead 🙄
My friend and I used to farm so much id start to dream about finding uniques that didn't exist and why wasn't it in my inventory when I woke up.
One week I played Borderlands for so many hours. I started seeing floating numbers when I closed my eyes to sleep 😅
im a new player and ive been consistently dreaming about dropping a Ber/Jah rune for the last week. A couple of times, I would jump up from my bed and check my characters inventory and be sad that it wasn't there LMFAO
That comment touched me in the feels.
Excellent demonstration of the power of a larger samplesize. Stone of jordan would appear on 1 : 31 rings dropped from andariel nightmare, something that would result in 3 : 93, of wich you got. And the same for 30% nagelrings. they are 15 : 31 turns out to be a nagel, so out of 100 it would be around 47 nagelrings, and 1 : 16 of those will be 30, wich is 3 : 48, wich is also what you ended up with. You hit the exact average in this demonstration, not lucky, not unlucky. Nice video
You asked was it worth?
and said "I dont think so"
Well bro I felt love in this video
It was trully worth.
Rafi ki it’s pronounced nayghel not najel
@@solarmaru49 Nagel means Nail in german lol xD
Good demonstration on how rare it is even from nightmare Andariel. Some people talk about farming her with the tone of "just go and get it, man" but it can really take a while.
Well. Assuming he put the oldest rings from the start of the project on top and then went down, he had an soj in the first 20 rings. Thats a couple hundred runs maybe, and a good fire sorc with a decent map can pump that out pretty quick.
Yes, but then look how long he got nothing after the third one.
@@wroogny couple of hundred runs where each run you dont get it you get nothing, nothing of value. Maybe it is the technical fastest way to specifically get sojs and only sojs but this is a good case scenario, bad case it will be your 50th unique ring after a thousand runs and you will have nothing else to show for it. Only a sadist would do this.
it's the thingie with chance. I gambled it and it only took a few times. Tried to do that again - possibly not 2205 times, but it never happened again xD
EVERYTHING high level in D2 takes a long ass time unless you're insanely lucky.
Dbrunski about to be out here like Oprah at her talk show, "and you get a nagel, and you get a manald, and you get a nagel"
I’m farming nm Andariel today for hours and only got one unic ring, a manald. LoL! I was feeling bad but after watching this video I got my strengths renewed! Thx!! 😂
lol, ppl play many yers and dont saw SOJ u tell about 4 hours ^))))) go for it ! dont give up !!!! :)
3 SoJ in 2205 is about 750 per 1. That's not bad at all.I never knew it was so easy to farm SoJs.. You gotta remember that NM is so easy compared to Hell. Resist are much easier on NM so you can pack more magic find. Dbrunski I think you're out of touch with the common player who doesn't have uber characters with Infinities and Enigmas. It's quite easy to kill NM Andy for almost anyone and on average you can get 1 SoJ for 750 runs? That's not bad. I'm going to do some NM Andy runs later today after seeing this video. I only have 1 SoJ in my entire stash.
Fun fact: Nagel is pronounced as Na'g'hel, in old european languages referring to "Nail Ring".
You can see in German and Dutch both retaining old germanic spoken language still using Nagel to this day.
Since this a gothic themed game i'm almost 1000% sure this was their aim a "Nail ring" not a Neigel ring.
same in scandi languages, it's been a pet peeve of mine having to listen to dbrunski say naygel
You're not wrong, but at the same time, why should an English native speaker bother changing his or her pronunciation just to be historically or linguistically accurate? Like, who the fuck gives a shit?
@@Hooga89 why be wrong when u can be right?
@@Hooga89 Because pronouncing things correctly makes the world less retarded.
@@Hooga89 because thats how the word is pronounced, same reason a native english speaker should pronounce english words properly.
I have never made that much of runs, but back then I had a necro, who easily got 2 soj (one from Andy and another one from a cow level). I doubt I made 100 runs in both directions. Now I am playing resurrected and finally understand HOW lucky I were.
I just got an SOJ from cows in ressurected, i never had one before although i farmed Andariel like no tommorow... for 10 plus years.
@@GamersOdyssey So happy for you, man! Yeah, I did already like 1000 runs, i guess, no SoJ yet. I guess that Necro of mine was really lucky)
Got a shitty Mara from cows chest though! The only one GG-item so far
I'm a little bit late to the party, but i look at it from the standpoint of trading. Even if i find less SoJ in Hell Andarial, i still find overall more expensive stuff that i can trade for an SoJ. That's why i never farm anything at Nightmare.
Yep, you always want to farm the hardest content you can handle without it slowing you down.
NM mephisto is pretty good early on at the start of ladder when you are trying to gear up to farm hell. He can drop all the good lvl 42 items like hoz, titans, occy, war travs etc. Most of which are quite valuable early on.
But I agree, once you are geared up and can handle farming hell there's no reason to farm anything in nm.
single player cant trade lol
I remembered the good old days of D2 on Bnet, where nagel > manald > SoJ spawns in order. So we would farm characters full of gold and buy rings off the merchant on a mule while carrying nagel + manald. Next unique ring that spawns off the merchant would be a guaranteed SoJ. :)
Why do people make up shit that doesn’t make any sense to people who actually know how the game works?
@@Purriah i bought it for a second, but then i though'' does increased finding magic items include merchants?
@@Purriah it's true though. They were considered unique so if you had Nagel and Manald on your character and you gambled another ring, the next unique would be a SoJ. Don't know when it was changed.
@@Purriah Its true whether you believe it or not. Don't accuse others of making shit up if you don't know.
Sure... SoJ's have less odds in Hell difficulty, but it also feels really nice to find that 5% LL BK ring too that Hell tends to offer. I seem to find them just as often as SoJ's. I always told people to only farm Nightmare if their character struggles to farm Hell, or you feel your clear speed isn't fast enough yet to justify the difficulty increase.
I have found one Stone of Jordan. Still one of the best feelings I've had in my life. The very rare and valuable drops in this game are so amazing you remember them for years.
Exactly. Weird that a game can have that impact on you. I find my one and only SOJ in a NM Baal run.
i found some ring in the second week of D3 that sold for $260
Only found like 3 in 20 years
I wonder how many skin of the vipermagi he found during these
just wanted to try my luck - took me 2 kills to get my 1st unique ring drop from andy and it was SOJ :D the luck feels unreal :O
I've been playing D2 since long before UA-cam existed, and I have ever found 1 - one - SOJ.
Been playing since classic 1.03, have only found 5 in that time. There are some items I've never seen drop such as Tyraels, Mangs Song Lesson, Cranium Basher and Asterons.
Its all rng guys :) you could do 4 kills and get 3 rings and the other person will do 2000 to get 4
Try playing old school runescape youll see how bad rng suck
I’ve played for years! YEARS! And I just recently started playing again and I’ve only found 2 and one was yesterday..side note in 2021 the soj isn’t worth anything more. People literally give them away.
@@codyrisling3253 back on early versions before the expansion, sojs were prime currency, I'm sure you remember. P skulls had crazy value back then too.
Honestly these vids make me scared to go back to D2
D2 is from a different time. Less content was made up for by a higher grind factor, and we loved it. It's tough in modern times after being used to other games but yeah D2 is even worse than PoE in terms of getting GG endgame gear solo self found.
I feel you bro
I decided not to play it. I played it a lot, farmed it a lot, enjoyed it a lot, but time have passed. There are a lot of better and more enjoyable games out there. Even with the updated graphics I don't want to struggle with it again. There is nothing new in it what I haven't done a decade ago.
@@RealBoci name me those games pls
@@Hippiaszful If I have to name those games, you are clearly not well informed about games on the market. D2 was one of the best of its time, but not anymore.
thanks for the hint that Andariel on Nightmare is a good source for SoJs!
I got my first SoJ along with a 72 / 30 Nailring out of 10 unique rings. And now I have a lifetime supply of Cathan's Seal :D
Do you do these manually, or are you botting them then streaming later?
If manual, just out of curiosity - how is this enjoyable to you?
Human bot project are my favourite videos. Thanks!
But it wasnt human bot runs ;)
After spending endless hours doing LK runs, sometimes enduring 1000+ run dry spells... NM Andy is a pleasure to run. I started playing when SOJs were still currency on BNET so they always have this special place in my heart. I don't mind spending an afternoon targeting them in NM. Your sorc is invincible in NM, the runs can be close to 15 seconds each with the right map, so youre virtually guaranteed one or two a day if you don't mind the monotony.
The fact you got 3 was actually really amazing for it being 1/52 unique rings from nm Andy.
It's actually 1/31 (15 manald, 15 nagel, and 1 soj)
Our data showed after post Uber event the drop rate overall for SOJ’s went way down. We used to get them all the time before it.
it’s fun seeing these runs again.
We have some really good data on Pindle (we have all champs and bosses but Pindle is my fav) as well (24hr runs @17~19sec kill speeds).
14secs, remember doing 4 per min
Turns out target farming manald heal is really affective. You end up with 70 SOJs.
Indeed, the Human Bot. GG, Cooley, yourself and Llama are the D2 kings. Subscribed.
5 SoJs in 2 years. I remember when we used to use those as currency.
Yeah, thats why a lot of people will be shocked on, how hard it is to geht some of the higher runes, without Dupes/Bots. But i guess in D2R there will be Bots too :/
@@StefanSentroshiReechani Im hoping the grinding is reworked. While I dont want it to be D3 easy. With a constant ladder reset every few months will make getting great builds near impossible on ladder.
@@Clear706 how do you know it's every few months? d2 ladder is once every 6 months i'm pretty sure. And trading makes great builds not very hard to make, unless you go for like perfect items or something.
Nice to see that there are so many of you out there, hardcore d2 enthusiasts... I have aswell been playing the game for over a decade, since 2005 approx, and I never thought that there are any crazy ass d2 fans that finished the game hundreds of times and done shit like this... Now I see that I am not the only one...
Never found a single SOJ in all the years I have played, the game is nuts.
Found one off a hell carver once.
Nm and hell andy is where u found all mine
Question, the quest bug for Andy is only for nightmare runs? do you have to take the portal back to town every time and got to act2 or only on the first time killing her?
Nice.
One question. Which app do you use for counting the runs?
Thanks for all.
What was the name of the item level mod you mentioned at 2:35 ?
Plugy.
@@RayenR89 Thanks, after posting I realized that this was for single-player. Back in the day, I used to use an item viewer for battlenet d2 that always worked and was undetectable. Wondering if one still exists
Remembering back in the days you had to wear Nagel and a Manald and you could gamble a SoJ by spending +- 1M gold!! That was so genius!!
Explain
Inspired of this video and on my 3rd Andy run today i got my first soj. So, thank you so much DB!
Mephisto has a special place for you in his domain
imma be farming SOJ like bit coin in D2 resurrected
i always get fooled by manald the stats looks similar to soj before you read it :))
I played Classic D2 ladder on closed BNet for a number of years, farmed Andy and Meph mercilessly, ID'd dozens of 30 MF Nagels, and I don't think I dropped more than 1 SOJ from her in all that time. In all those thousands of hours of play the only SOJs I ever got were, one from Hell or NM cows, and all others were just traded for. Imo this project was a bit duplicitous, 3/100 would've been a dream drop-rate in my experience, nevermind that you only got 3 perfect Nagels with it. I should've had dozens of SOJs at that rate!
There was a bit of myth in the classic community about how best to farm SOJs, the most prevalent one being to MF NM Andy with 250-350 MF and you were "guaranteed" one every 50-100 runs, but I think both of our experiences thoroughly dispute that, and mine even more heavily than yours. Grats on your SOJs though, I'm still waiting to find ONE in PlugY single-player. Rough times out here in Diablo 2 land
Rng is rng. You can't expect the odds to act the same every time. Even 2205 runs is a very small sample in the grand scheme of things. Millions of samples would have to be collected to produce accurate results.
@@finalcam1740 Oh of course, that's why I feel like it was almost unfairly disproportionate. 3:3 is a really weird ratio of IDs for SOJs to PNagels and definitely exemplifies the nature of sample size. I feel like I'd ID'd hundreds of unique rings on a monthly basis and it was always so disheartening. PNagel eventually became Charsifood, I was tired of muling them I got that many. But those damn SOJs... it just made me wonder where everybody who I was trading with was getting theirs, or if I was somehow cosmically influenced to experience everyone else's bad RNG while they were getting paydays.
As an aside, I also found no more than a half dozen Silks, Gulls, or Goldskins (those few items being somewhat commodified in classic ladder, not immensely so but enough to still give them value in bartering) in all my years and also only acquired through trading. I really felt like my odds were cursed, and on Closed BNet it was especially a thorn in your side because you could only make about 20 games/hr before Realm Down which really make it sting all the more bitterly: you MF as much as you can, as much as you're ALLOWED, but even meeting the quota is never enough!
How long did it take to do the runs approximately?
"10% through, we have nothing"
That 220 runs btw. 220, nada. Jesus.
is that Andariel quest bug that Dbrunski talks about single-player or multi-player only? Or is it for both modes? Ladder?
Both
@@joshbatten8844 ty.
2205 runs...omg! 10 runs would make me get tired of doing it all over again
I wonder what your reactions would be if you went from top to bottom. You would get 3 SoJ in the first half, then nothing in the rest.
I thought the same. I bet it would have beeb nore depressing hahah
Thought the same thing! He actually would’ve had incredible drops from. 50-100 were sojs.
Back in the day we used to gamble our gold away for SOJs I remember getting a few back then.But even the odds doing that seemed to be a lot higher then these odds.
Ya i remember gambling for SOJ's back in the day too. Gold was pretty much worthless so......gambling it was.
Way way back in pre expac D2 there was a time where the game would drop the unique rings in order, based on what was in your inventory. So you'd carry a manald and nagel and gamble away, because if it came out unique it was a guaranteed SOJ
Hey, Dbrunski!) thx for this video. It inspired me to collect 100 uniq rings from hell’s Andy! I’ve 39 pcs left.
2x matching sojs in a skin that isnt orange or wings is a win in my book!
Coral was always my fav skin haha
orange is king
Is it determined what the item is going to be before the identification or does it just roll in the moment of identification?
I always remember the day i got 2 Sojs from the Summoner in Act2 in consecutive runs. Best day of my life..
Wow
@@MarcusRoy yeah just crazy
Hi New to your channel, and returning to D2 after 15yrs. just wondering how you got the pages on your "stash"
Gotta love that stash full of Manalds. 😂
To be fair, there are probably some Nagels in there as well!
Used to play D2 when I was a teenager and never got one in the 2-3 years of playing. Recently started again on Plugy and was questing my way through the flyer jungle and a random bird dropped a unique ring, identified it and was my first ever SOJ! Made my day!
What's plugy
@@huntbones3363 it's a mod that allows you to do some stuff that your normally can't in single player. For example you can do ladder only runewords, there is an infinite stash (much like using a mule on battlenet) and you can kill the cow king and still go back into the cow level. Among other things. Makes the game more enjoyable as a single player game.
@@garywhite189 ohh ok right man see u in d2r
@@huntbones3363 that you will my friend!
Diablo 2: Usually takes minimum 1 yr to find Soj sometimes years.
Diablo 4: Given a Soj in first 5 minutes of the beta.
This at its core is everything I hate about D3 and D4.
U hate d4 and it not close to being done?
wait... 1 year to find soj? really
I have 2 days doing nightmare andariel runs... only 363 days left
@MunsonRoyE27 how you play D4 when it won’t even be out this year and it’s only January ?
Judging by what I’ve seen in beta it looks like hot garbage imo. Now I know why so many people thought a D2 remaster was coming bc they blatantly released a copy pasted beta version of D2 with the itemization of D3 with upgraded graphics. If the loot/Itemization doesn’t receive a massive overhaul I for one will be sticking with Diablo 2 for another foreseeable 7-10 years.
Diablo 2 was arguably one of the best Blizzard games in the Diablo series of games ever made. I personally enjoyed it a lot more than Diablo 3 and it's expansions.
Pretty good result! I've found 2 soj rings on current ladder - one from meph and another from council member :)
You trying to say you have done more that 2500 andarial runs this ladder season?
@@xMrJanuaryx No, I'm just saying that I've found 2 soj. No nightmare andy for me :)
@@xMrJanuaryx open your eyes and read what he said, smh.
Thanks for all the vids bud. Keep up the good work.
You got my respect, man! I have a pain in my hand now because of playing diablo 2.
Would this work for d2r? The portal to town and straight to a2 I mean..on bnet?
I'm buying a new computer this week I'm gonna get back into this game. I played D2 for like 14 years on and off and it's one my favorite games of all time. I haven't played in like 5 years and I'm really wanting to lol.
I wana get back to it too. I used to love pvp on there.
LLD ftw
When you get around to installing it on windows 10 a blue box is going to appear and say it cant run, theres a small dropdown menu in that popup that will let you continue anyways
Happy gaming
@@orionfire1947 TY
I recently did this. A week or so back in and it’s great!
I also did a lot of these runs with 730%MF to 870%MF until I had 3 SoJ (I never found it before) : the 1st was the #48, the 2nd #114 and the 3rd #128. I also found 2 Tal Rashas's amulets but no Telling of Beads Amulet (both have ~1 to 1940 to drop) and 1 Immortal King's Will (~1 to 300) with 40%MF.
Awesome!
Was this done on players 1?
p3 I think
DBrunski or anyone, is nightmare Andy worth farming if I only have like 150-200MF ? Is it good for SOJ?
3 soj !!! definitely worth it! i have found only 2 in the past ten years.
I did andy bug and managed to farm 2 in 2 hours on players 8 with 700 mf. Every run took 30sec
3 sojs! Giggle, giggle, giggle! (c) Count von Count, Sesame Street.
He literally said it wasn't worth it and you can't justify farming 100 rings on NM Andy above Hell Andy
That's some crazy luck though. Even 3 in 100 unique rings is pretty good luck. What are the actual odds?
who the hell reads comments before watching the video... most comments won't even make sense if you don't watch.
I assume you did this on single player or can you use that mod on Blizzards network?
It's like opening 100 packs of yu-gi-oh cards! SHOW ME THE SECRET RARES
hey brunski, is it still necessary to to quest bug andy in resurrected?
I started giggling at 50 rings in
So back in the day, the odds on Andy n/m dropping an soj was 1/30, in that if a unique ring dropped from Andy n/m, 1/30 would be an soj. So you actually were meeting the curve, more or less. How much actual game play time did all this farming take?
Click baited. It was actually 98 nm Andariel rings. Great video DB. Thanks for all your hard work
LOL
No wonder why I havent found a single SOJ so far and now it make sense why they were the most common used currency back in 1.09
The saddest times were d2. I had a group of buddies that would play all the time. We did this stuff, grind for days only to have botters and dupers lap us.
I think this about every video he has. Like most people, I got lost in the game and spent so much time on it. Then slowly the botting and duping just destroyed the game. Blizzard tried their best, but it was so early into anti-hacking in games they were always behind. Eventually all of us reached a point where we realized the game was just too far gone from what it was
@@jshshh1041 do you think botting and duping will be a big problem in D2R?
@@DouglasCarter69 Depends on how And what Blizzard can do about it since the engine is the same
The Servers are new though and maybe they can implement a hackshield or something to get rid of bots and dupes
@@user-ik2zr1cx1u It's pretty amazing they've been running this same basic engine for what - 20+ years now? Wonder how many other games can claim that. Hell, they even recycle the musical score. We are not a fickle fanbase. LOL!
hey dbrunski what trainer do u use to spawn ur items?
You are an inspiration, this level of dedication made me maybe start playing this game. Congrats!
thanks for this awesome and informative video! thanks for the hard work. I was just thinking of farming Andariel on NM myself, but now thanks to your video, I know better now ;)
That would be one loreweave on Poe with rings to spare for the next one 😁
What makes the SOJ soo valuable? I've got my sorc and druid in hell now and considering farming hell Andy for shako etc but outside of res rings I can't justify using skill rings?
Lots of mana too. It used to be the currency online before high runes took over.
Looks like you didnt have enough Hortons before starting this one, hence the lack of SoJ :P
Tim hortons? 😆
Well, there is a old tip if you want SoJ, do tranvical runs till the council drops a set amulet. Pick it but do not indentify it, don't pick anything from the ground and start killing monsters, hit chests and barb find item - for this is good for sure - anything that can drop SoJ (iLvl 39). If you found a unique ring in this game, this is always be a SoJ (only the first one because when you pick anything it resets and only works on set amy from high council).
I remember I got a soj off her after 3 runs 🤣
That just means your next 1000 will be barren
I've playing D2 on and off for almost 2 decades, never got an SoJ.
My friend played since the launch of D2R, he got an SoJ within a month.
that's rng my friend, when l played single player pluggy I got a ton of runes 1 zod 2 ohm 2 ber 2 vex etc etc, now on D2R none
I found 3 sojs online manually in my life, i do remember them all because they are kind of rare for sure. One was from NM trist helping a friend, 2nd was from hell soul while clearing a baal throne and the last one was from hell diablo directly. Its one of those items that when you id it you're like hell yeah
Awesome videos man! Very informative and love tuning in to see your new content. I miss playing this game. How can I get it today to start playing again? Someone told me they closed up the severs but I didn't want to believe it. Thanks man!
join my discord link is in the description we will help you get started :)
Your background footage is hell andy..
Pardon my ignorance but do you have to go through the whole game to fight her again? I see in the video that you're exiting the floor and coming back...do they revive in the higher difficulties??
she respawns every time you make a new game
Thnx dude, needed a new drinking game ^^
Is there a way to bug her if i forgot to do it after the first kill?
Dang dude, looks like you beat the odds pretty hard. At 775 MF (a conservative estimate based on what I believe your gear is just by looking at it), Andariel's SOJ drop odds are still 1:1321.
i just started yesterday d2 after 15-16 years last time played (never playd it serious, only some act 1-5 runs on normal) and i have no clue :D ok why is soj so good ? becouse the 1 to all skills ?
For a caster like sorceress or necromancer the maximum mana +25% is nice! The SOJ is also used in a few crafting recipes in the cube.
NICEE!! Now you got to do 100 unique rings Andy runs on HELL MODE ;), just to see the real ods compared ;) !! !
is there something im missing? The stats on the soj do nothing for me... what makes it so great?
I found my sojs off andy during Blizzcons, the hype makes em drop faster!
Hahahahahaha
About a year ago during a session of random farming I found two SoJs and a Mara's within the same 30 minutes.
I've quit since then because I kind of feel like I won the game. That's it. Never going to get that kind of luck again. Time to pack it in and retire.
Facts brother!!! I would of went and played the lotto right after lol
Hey, I need that andariel image you have on the thumbnail. I'm considering tattoo with it. Where can I find it ? Can I contact you somehow to get it ?
7:16 gets another Manald but says Nagel. lol
What program did you use to count your runs?
pretty good return in the end
I usually run magic chars, is that AR bonus actually noticeable to physical dealers?
No u don't need AR lmfao
NICEE!! Now you got to do 100 unique rings Andy runs on HELL MODE ;), just to see the real ods compared ;)
Dude it already is in hell mode. If you watch the video he's running in hell difficulty. Until it reads nightmare I call bs
@@ttvijimcarried8916 He's definetly not in hell, since he would id other rings than Manald and Nagel. The background video is indeed in hell, but that's just a filler.
A sample size of 2205 isn't really that large for statistical comparisons.
Where can I find mods for larger stash and better view of dropped itens?
8:35 man, take it out of there, you'll forget where it is :D