try a replica of a tamiya wild one or a tamiya thundershot, two classics that should be doable with no real problem, at least of your up for a history dive, i own both irl and they are beasts
They are literally ball joints, I’ve never referred to them as “ball and socket” when talking about them. That kit is cool, I’m glad it had 3 differentials, pretty much all 4WD cars do because ones without the centre diffs would snap shafts. Planetary gears would be interesting too.
I've heard both ball joint and ball & socket for these joints, so I think it's devolved into preference. If I remember correctly, there are a few differences between the two. Just can't remember the differences.
@@Carsarecool-rm4kf Yeah, I had an old Tamiya 1:10 Nissan Skyline, just a drive shaft and no centre diff, didn’t need it because they don’t have the strongest grip with the ground anyway.
Geek comment about differentials: Open differentials don't really "send" torque anywhere. The outputs of an ideal open differential will each always output exactly 50% of the torque generated on the input. Which means that if one of the outputs requires almost no torque to spin, the torque produced by the input will also be basically zero. That's why you need a dyno to measure engine output. No resistance = no torque produced. With a broken half shaft, the engine only produces two times the torque that is needed to spin what's left of the broken shaft.
If you were an old school rc guy you would think thats a Tamiya Grasshopper, My first rc car in the 80s, Just bought the game because of your videos too :)
It's definitely the suspension that doesn't like the high speed. Since everything is perpendicular to roughly 90-degrees, there's no caster in the steering geometry, and as such, no self-centering for it. There might also be issues with bump-steer as well, so look into that, too.
That design is really cool. Maybe you could try and make it yourself and make something like a rally car or a trophy truck that can actually take jumps
@186scott A "half shaft" is found on rear wheel drive only. Front wheel is a CV shaft system as it's an independent suspension. Solid front axles use a U-joint shaft system like on older 4x4's, where one U-joint is used for turning.
@@keatonfrancisco6763 Half shafts are in a solid rear end that move power from the gear and pinon, inside the pumpkin, to the wheel. 2 half shafts, one for the left side and one for the right side, make up one whole axle in a solid axle drive line. Nothing to do with a CV shaft, as it's not the same thing. Nothing "synonymous" about CV's and a solid axle half shafts, parts or how they work, other than seals.
I hope kAN sees this. THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! I have 20 hours in this game and could not get suspension working, and then you delete the connections. there was NOTHING about that ANYWHERE i looked on the internet ... I gave up. I know you didnt mean to and this video is 5 months old when im watching it but I am glad I watch your content...I have raged quit soooo many times.
On what you say you broke on your car, it’s just called cv axle. I’ve snapped mine too once, on a railroad crossing. 1 day after 2k mile trip 😂 at least it was back in my hometown not far from a shop i’ve worked at 😂
I'm so glad you finally did this one, I've been asking for it for a while now! If you go straight in the opposite direction from the starting line, then turn slight right after hitting the dirt, there is a paved highspeed race-loop track. The third differential confused me a lot when I first built this. I don't understand what benefit it provides that the other two don't already give.
Kan the steering joints are called tie rods, ball joints referring the control arm to spindle carrier. in Rc's you are right they are called captured ball joints
Yes, the spiked wheel only has one size. If you're referring to the car not driving straight, I think that's just the suspension setup and lack of toe on the steering.
So you like the 3 diffs, yet.... You didn't put it on some uneven ground and try to get it to flex up and spin a wheel on each end and see it all work. Just drive over big hills and so jumps everywhere
Hey kAN, 4D golf just dropped. It's mini golf, but in 4D and it is extremely trippy. Maybe you could do a Multiplayer Monday on it. I'm not sure it has online multiplayer, but I think Steam has something where you can do couch coop online. Edit: You can use steam remote play to do multiplayer AND the multiplayer allows you to literally knock your friends out of this (3D) world.
Why would people get mad at you for calling them a ball joint? It is a ball and socket. It's a ball joint. Unless they want you to call them trunnions but that's a slightly different joint.
@kelvinelrick807 Lets just call them hip or shoulder sockets. We might also call it a not very strong tie-rod end that holds the weight of a thing, unless it's an upper joint, maybe?
@@ducewags After searching though CAT's, Bobcat's, and Toyota's pars catalogs (those are the brands I'm familiar with) I could not find any "hip socket" or "shoulder socket". However, when searching for "ball joint" a plethora of options appeared. There are such things called "shoulder bolts", "shoulder screw", or "shoulder belt" (referring to the seat belt). In your statement "an upper joint", you are referring to a ball joint. On Toyota 4x4s the upper and lower ball joints are oriented so that the forces are pushing the joint together rather than pulling them apart. Tie rods can end in a ball joint or hiem joint. Though most cases they end in ball joints on independent suspension, unless you're racing then they usually end in a hiem joint. Tie rods keep each set of driver and passenger steering wheels aligned to each other. (some vehicles have front and rear wheel steering) Ending your sentence in a question mark tells me that you do not have sufficient knowledge on what you are talking about. So I recommend you do your own research before you try correcting people with wrong answers.
@@kelvinelrick807 Wow, you wrote a book telling you did not get the hip, or shoulder joke? They are in fact ball and socket joints in the human body, just like a ball joint in automotive, that also have a socket for the ball. And have a nice day.
@@ducewags Ah. I do know know about the shoulder and hip joints in the human body. As you can already tell jokes aren't much of my thing. However there are people dumb enough who would actually believe in dumb answers, hence my response. I apologize if I was a bit harsh at the end. Have a nice day too.
@@kelvinelrick807 12 years in the service, and I'm married. Nothing you say could be "harsh" by any means. I love the CAT's, I have a 3406B powered gen-set on my work truck. Best thing for ARC, MIG, TIG, Air ARC or plasma, or for moving electric drills, shovels or dead production trucks by an "imp" line.
It is typically called a ball joint, alternatively, if its steering, its a tie rod end, still a ball joint, people are just asshats. To clarify btw, any joint that uses a ball in a socket is a ball joint. You can be a grammar nazi and insist on calling it a ball and socket or whatever else youd like, but youre just making yourself look foolish
What should we build next in Gearblocks?
just saying but i dont think you did the front diff correctly hence the drifting off to one side
A crawler excavator.
try a replica of a tamiya wild one or a tamiya thundershot, two classics that should be doable with no real problem, at least of your up for a history dive, i own both irl and they are beasts
Should make your one car AWD for max acceleration. Sure it changes the driving physics but that's what tuning is for.
You should build a planetary gearbox, or trophy truck.
hope you will build a 18 wheeler like a scania cabover with tilting cab and stuff. that would be so cool.
That first center axle is a torque bar, like a sway bar almost. It helps with the suspension
you know you do well with your channel if you are getting bots in the comments.
UA-cam really has its ways
What bots???
Im loving this game. Im entertained AND learning stuff
Now I wanna see if you can make an AWDS (All Wheel Drive & Steering) vehicle.
With how the panels are "sharp bend" I can imagine him building a 234 Puma😂
Neat kit, seems fun to build. Definitely needs some tweaking to improve, but seems good for teaching people as a tutorial.
They are literally ball joints, I’ve never referred to them as “ball and socket” when talking about them. That kit is cool, I’m glad it had 3 differentials, pretty much all 4WD cars do because ones without the centre diffs would snap shafts. Planetary gears would be interesting too.
There is a ball, and a socket. It is called a ball joint, it could be repurposed for anything
I've heard both ball joint and ball & socket for these joints, so I think it's devolved into preference.
If I remember correctly, there are a few differences between the two. Just can't remember the differences.
lots of rc cars don't use a centre diff for 4wd but some more expensive (i'm talking £500) have them, they tend to be crawlers which I don't have
@@Carsarecool-rm4kf Yeah, I had an old Tamiya 1:10 Nissan Skyline, just a drive shaft and no centre diff, didn’t need it because they don’t have the strongest grip with the ground anyway.
Some use ball joints, some use heim joints.
I love that Kan building it backwards not only extremely confused me but also himself but didn’t correct it
I would def watch a video where you do a planetary gearbox
Geek comment about differentials: Open differentials don't really "send" torque anywhere. The outputs of an ideal open differential will each always output exactly 50% of the torque generated on the input. Which means that if one of the outputs requires almost no torque to spin, the torque produced by the input will also be basically zero. That's why you need a dyno to measure engine output. No resistance = no torque produced. With a broken half shaft, the engine only produces two times the torque that is needed to spin what's left of the broken shaft.
‘I like that hairpin’ *YEET
If you were an old school rc guy you would think thats a Tamiya Grasshopper, My first rc car in the 80s, Just bought the game because of your videos too :)
It's definitely the suspension that doesn't like the high speed. Since everything is perpendicular to roughly 90-degrees, there's no caster in the steering geometry, and as such, no self-centering for it. There might also be issues with bump-steer as well, so look into that, too.
Destruction model is quite nice
The "stub axle" you mentioned is called the intermediate shaft. At least it was for my car.
That design is really cool. Maybe you could try and make it yourself and make something like a rally car or a trophy truck that can actually take jumps
The 2 shafts on a front wheel drive are called a half shaft
I thought that was only when it comes directly out of the transmission
@186scott A "half shaft" is found on rear wheel drive only. Front wheel is a CV shaft system as it's an independent suspension. Solid front axles use a U-joint shaft system like on older 4x4's, where one U-joint is used for turning.
@@Sausketo Half shafts are found on rear wheel drives only.
Half shafts are synonymous with cv axles
@@keatonfrancisco6763 Half shafts are in a solid rear end that move power from the gear and pinon, inside the pumpkin, to the wheel. 2 half shafts, one for the left side and one for the right side, make up one whole axle in a solid axle drive line. Nothing to do with a CV shaft, as it's not the same thing. Nothing "synonymous" about CV's and a solid axle half shafts, parts or how they work, other than seals.
15:44 I'm not sure but they might be considered knuckles since they don't allow full rotation like a ball joint
You should really try it with invincibility on because its just so much more fun to drive these things around then
I hope kAN sees this. THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! I have 20 hours in this game and could not get suspension working, and then you delete the connections. there was NOTHING about that ANYWHERE i looked on the internet ... I gave up. I know you didnt mean to and this video is 5 months old when im watching it but I am glad I watch your content...I have raged quit soooo many times.
The buggy can take jumps. So long as you dont smack the ground before you actually take the jump.
Can you adjust the strength of joints/parts so that even when invulnerability is turned off, you don't lose your wheels quite that easily?
ok dude ... this is literaly how you build techic lego ... and gives me the same feeling. why is no1 mentioning this XD?
Yes plz do a planetary gear set.... I suggested this way back when you first started playing because all the pieces seem to be there
can't wait till people start making trains in this game
couple gears on one of the differentials weren't setup correctly that's probably why you're getting that pull
On what you say you broke on your car, it’s just called cv axle. I’ve snapped mine too once, on a railroad crossing. 1 day after 2k mile trip 😂 at least it was back in my hometown not far from a shop i’ve worked at 😂
I don't know why, but you give me Max Verstappen vibes. I think it's your voice and something that i don't know
I'm so glad you finally did this one, I've been asking for it for a while now!
If you go straight in the opposite direction from the starting line, then turn slight right after hitting the dirt, there is a paved highspeed race-loop track.
The third differential confused me a lot when I first built this. I don't understand what benefit it provides that the other two don't already give.
You need to make an all wheel drive with all wheel steering.
I love this game
need the front axel power to cut after a certain car speed.
I wish this was a survival game, where you can use your creations to raid enemy base and survive.
Perhaps some kind of multiplayer mission or racing?
Hey KAN can you build an eton fuller 18 speed transmission in gearblocks in a kenworth k100 cab over semi tractor with tandem axles and diff lockers?
Kan the steering joints are called tie rods, ball joints referring the control arm to spindle carrier. in Rc's you are right they are called captured ball joints
@KANGaming you cant do a proper planetary gear set as of the last time I played due to the lack of ring gears
I cannot remember the video name but I do remember you telling more in depth when your car broke
Pretty sure that the ‘ball joints’ are technically called ‘Omni joints’, but I’m not one hundred percent sure on that.
Cv axles have a tendency to do that
Planetary systems are a pain. I tried it and it sorta works.
Heim joint is the word you want instead of ball joint
They’re called CV joints or universal joints
You should make a four-cylinder Honda engine
They should add this to console
Agreed, I loaded this on my pc and it ran like a slide show. It would probably run really well on PS5 and the series x.
@@timehunter9467 yeah I have a ps5 and Xbox series s
who is still waiting for kan to make a trophy truck
Are all 4 tires the same diameter? If not, that could cause weird effects - depending on how the simulation calculates things.
Yes, the spiked wheel only has one size. If you're referring to the car not driving straight, I think that's just the suspension setup and lack of toe on the steering.
Name of axle your looking for is CV axle
dev must build high end RC cars
if you can make a planetary gear box in scrap mechanic you can do it hear
its a ball and socket, a ball joint.
The dev should colab with beamng to be able to export the vehicles you make to beamng.
@kANGaming, you can test my Esiok vehicle 😊
So you like the 3 diffs, yet.... You didn't put it on some uneven ground and try to get it to flex up and spin a wheel on each end and see it all work. Just drive over big hills and so jumps everywhere
Can you play trail makers again?
More revhead?
what happened to the scrap mechanic video where you shot cows out of spud guns?
Kan railroads online has a round house and a new locomotive
The lego technic games are getting more interesting. 🤔🤔
Some of the parts do look like Lego don’t they?
@@timehunter9467 yes. Plus the building style...
I have rc crawlers that use solid axle instead of independent
Can it be v twin now?
Noice
Never been this early before
Gravity seems a little weak here.
Is this on console?
Hey kAN, 4D golf just dropped. It's mini golf, but in 4D and it is extremely trippy. Maybe you could do a Multiplayer Monday on it. I'm not sure it has online multiplayer, but I think Steam has something where you can do couch coop online.
Edit: You can use steam remote play to do multiplayer AND the multiplayer allows you to literally knock your friends out of this (3D) world.
Kan can you please try and do a lego build on gearblox
No way he built an octane
It was a car type before it was ever an octane..
@@Creature33maybe, but he still built an octane did he not?
He’s high GC/ SSL in RL, of course he built the best car
Why would people get mad at you for calling them a ball joint? It is a ball and socket. It's a ball joint. Unless they want you to call them trunnions but that's a slightly different joint.
@kelvinelrick807 Lets just call them hip or shoulder sockets. We might also call it a not very strong tie-rod end that holds the weight of a thing, unless it's an upper joint, maybe?
@@ducewags After searching though CAT's, Bobcat's, and Toyota's pars catalogs (those are the brands I'm familiar with) I could not find any "hip socket" or "shoulder socket". However, when searching for "ball joint" a plethora of options appeared. There are such things called "shoulder bolts", "shoulder screw", or "shoulder belt" (referring to the seat belt).
In your statement "an upper joint", you are referring to a ball joint. On Toyota 4x4s the upper and lower ball joints are oriented so that the forces are pushing the joint together rather than pulling them apart.
Tie rods can end in a ball joint or hiem joint. Though most cases they end in ball joints on independent suspension, unless you're racing then they usually end in a hiem joint. Tie rods keep each set of driver and passenger steering wheels aligned to each other. (some vehicles have front and rear wheel steering)
Ending your sentence in a question mark tells me that you do not have sufficient knowledge on what you are talking about. So I recommend you do your own research before you try correcting people with wrong answers.
@@kelvinelrick807 Wow, you wrote a book telling you did not get the hip, or shoulder joke? They are in fact ball and socket joints in the human body, just like a ball joint in automotive, that also have a socket for the ball. And have a nice day.
@@ducewags Ah. I do know know about the shoulder and hip joints in the human body. As you can already tell jokes aren't much of my thing. However there are people dumb enough who would actually believe in dumb answers, hence my response.
I apologize if I was a bit harsh at the end. Have a nice day too.
@@kelvinelrick807 12 years in the service, and I'm married. Nothing you say could be "harsh" by any means. I love the CAT's, I have a 3406B powered gen-set on my work truck. Best thing for ARC, MIG, TIG, Air ARC or plasma, or for moving electric drills, shovels or dead production trucks by an "imp" line.
I believe instead of "Ball Joint" its called a "Ball & Socket".
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That car is very car.
it seems like 0.5G
It is typically called a ball joint, alternatively, if its steering, its a tie rod end, still a ball joint, people are just asshats. To clarify btw, any joint that uses a ball in a socket is a ball joint. You can be a grammar nazi and insist on calling it a ball and socket or whatever else youd like, but youre just making yourself look foolish
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Man, you really get confused about what's happening here. I hope people don't try and learn anything from what you say
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