I have a Klipsch 12 inch. Of course, it isn’t as high end, and it has the black finish, a shallower magnet, and the usual non-toroidal transformer on the amplifier. The bass port is, surprisingly the exact same!
great video, nice to see all details of amp. section...no one else shows these things nowadays.Amp. section looks really good, a massive torroidal transformer and a solid AB construction.Filtering caps are from SK, a solid capacitor maker. People here complain about quality and says SVS subs are much better. I just LOL to them. Here on youtube you can see SVS's own introduction videos and you'll see how cheap calss D amplifiers they're using on high end products like Ultra 16, 4000 models. Capacitors on SVS are from a brand which is famous with cap. leakage , early fails. Amps. on SVS subs.are JOKE.
You don't understand why they do it the way they do it. They need powerful d class which most likely wont be heard anyway to use quite high dynamic eq that allows them to hit subbass as no other subwoofer of their size. This Dali won't hit subbass in movies. If you play interstellar or edge of tomorrow start svs will win. If you play music dali most likely will win.
Curiously, if you can get cardboard that is thick enough, and hard enough - It is a perfectly viable material for loudspeakers. I did some DIY building with different materials, and frankly, most of them will produce a reasonable sound as long as they : a) don't get too hard (metals and plastic often sound brittle and tinny) b) become too soft (thin wood, cloth, soft cardboard, leather) There's a range in between those two extremes, where as long as it's rigid enough, it'll sound just fine. That said, don't fit two 12" subs to a parcel shelf in the back of a car and expect audio excellence. 🤣 But stuff like, ½ inch hard cardboard (aka solid cardboard) is ok - Not too unlike plywood, actually. Edit : Just found out you guys call it "Hardboard" when talking about hard pressed cardboard .. oh well.
Эх ребята пишущие негативные комменты,а вы что там хотели увидеть,даже если он 600тр стоит,там внутри нет ничего примечательного,этот хоть сделан по человечески,корпус с ребрами жесткости,транс на усилке тороидальный стоит,динамик более менее нормальный,синтепон уложен не плохо,а что хотели увидеть вы,мне просто правда самому интересно,пачку 100 долларовых купюр?
В этом хоть ватин поставили. У меня Dali AW10. Так там два кусочка поролона 100 х 120 мм и толщиной 5 мм. по бокам. Я по углам прикрепил валики из ватина, Потом выложил все четырьмя слоями ватина. Сразу ушло бубнение, звук стал чище, мягче, приятнее.
Все это конечно не плохо,но перед тем как такие мероприятия проводить по якобы улучшению,нужно хотя бы измерения самые элементарные сделать до и после доработки,и потом уже писать о якобы улучшении.Не всегда,далеко не всегда если чего то мало внутри саба,особенно поглотителя,не всегда это экономия,в большинстве случаев это уже законченный конструктив,то есть больше не требуется,и там далеко не идиоты все это делают и рассчитывают. @@Mirek1111
Отчасти согласен. АЧХ наверняка изменилась, но в диапазоне примерно 30- 60 Гц - не думаю что сильно. Но звучание намного улучшилось! Самое главное - бубнение исчезло. Не думаю что конструктора этого (бубнения) хотели - все таки наверно экономия.
@@Techscrews I got 2 subs in a box-selfmade 2xEMINENCE DELTA12LFC 12-Inch speakers .They sound so good (i use external 300W amp selfmade too :) . They are so strong and well made-you cant even get their coils to warm up (nice vent on the coil) . You can even compare them to that cheap bass . Cost 2x100$ to buy them and the amp cost me 150$ to build (600W troidal transformer) . You want bass - get pro speakers like that...Than you will see the difference in bass-sound. I bet that small thin carton diaphragme on the DALI flaps when over 70W power.
@@cocosloan3748 for your sub project have one big fail :( EMINENCE DELTA12LFC not a subwoofer driver, it's midbass driver and can't play low end bass freq. I have build 18" sub for lovely party sound listening experience with RCF LF18X401 driver: ua-cam.com/video/SJ6Bn6s5BLg/v-deo.html
В этом хоть ватин поставили. У меня Dali AW10. Так там два кусочка поролона 100 х 120 мм и толщиной 5 мм. по бокам. Я по углам прикрепил валики из ватина, Потом выложил все четырьмя слоями ватина. Сразу ушло бубнение, звук стал чище, мягче, приятнее.
Это самовнушение! Нельзя полностью глушить корпус АС, это то же самое, что если вы полность заглушите комнату в которой слушаете музыку, только представьте
Три слоя ватин - это совсем не полностью заглушен корпус.Это убрало гул и бубнение.На фирмах выпускающих серьезную акустику, испытания и измерения как раз проводят в очень сильно заглушенных специальных комнатах.
@@Techscrews SB34SWNRX driver, about 85L in volume, 100mm port, 35cm in length. The amp is an IRS2092 based class D amp. The sound is very precise, or as some would call it "tight", but not as "in your face" as a car sub.
DIY can usually be compared to speakers that are 2x-3x more expensive, however this thing looks like a joke for 1000$. Didn't have chance to hear it but build quality isn't something you should expect at this price range.
Try a look inside the bose SoundTouch 300. I have one but bose doesn’t show a internal design of it. They only show a partial and not a good view of what your buying. I really want to see what’s in it.
@@Techscrews To be fair, there were some decent enough parts in there. The transformer looked beefy, the capacitor choice is solid and the driver seemed like a decent unit too. The cabinet was a bit meh, but it'll do, I'm sure. All in all, a decent enough selection, and lets not forget they were made to be paired with the Ikon speakers.
Que distancia hay entre el piso del bafle que tiene el tunel de sintonia y el apoyo que va en el suelo ......????? Es iportante saber esa medida ....?????
De acuerdo contigo compre hace unos años un jbl lsr310 enfocado en estudio musical vale la tercera parte de este y es mejor construido, el marketing hace que algo que no vale la pena lo valga y además te sientas privilegiado por pagar sobre precio
@@camargo1012 Yo también tengo Speaker JBL y son muy confiables, la marca que no recomiendo es polk audio, he tenido malas experiencias con un central de la serie TL3 y su famoso subwoofer PSW505, del central se dañó el tweeter, y del subwoofer la tarjeta, la a atención al cliente es pésima y descortes ]
It's more than just put a driver in a box. If that wasnt the case, all subs would be identical. These things require design, theres things a retail sub manufacturer can do that you just can't.
Just reading the specifications, I cannot believe that a subwoofer that costs $1000 USD can only play down to 26Hz. That is just ridiculous. And I love Dali speakers, I have a pair. But if I'm slapping down $1K on a sub? That baby should not only be able to play down to 20Hz, it better be able to play BELOW 20Hz!!
Poor driver which is made from pressed steel, it’s about the cheapest driver that you can buy in the market. Considering it’s the heart of the system I’d just stay well clear of this one
Not so bad, there is all around in angles strengthening corners, of course for $1k you might want something like in my custom sub, but this not produce so huge sound pressure. Biggest fail is amplifier board without any silicone gaskets under it. ua-cam.com/video/SJ6Bn6s5BLg/v-deo.html
@@TheRockerxx69 If you see on my video below, I use very huge orthogonal bracing only because I have very huge surface plate and 18" driver with huge range of movement. For dali, there no huge surfac, also there is used 22mm plate + edge bracing. Dali know, where they can save some money and get the same performance.
Вариант без сверления динамика. Сначала нужно было открутить усилитель затем слегка отвинтить (не полностью) динамик после чего пару ударов по нижнему фланцу динамика с внутренней стороны и всё.
I can buy this subwoofer for 340$ ( 1700 ron ) . For me the amp and box looks well made but the driver looks cheap .. even SVS sub under the 3000 series have drivers looking similar but eh . I dont know if i should buy it ... some say its good here in the comments and some say the driver is ass and it isnt worth it . Bad cables .. some say the amp is chinese but they dont knoe shit about amps ( that toroidal size is rare even in 1000+$ amps ) . What's your opinion ? Should i buy this or SVS PB 200P PRO for 550$ ?
for $340 it's nice deal and remember, that always you can sell it for that the same price or more if want upgrade. For extra saved money $210 improve room acoustics or buy DAC.
This Dali subwoofer box is a huge difference compared to the $1000 Velodyne 15-inch subwoofer The build quality of the box alone is much better it even has some nice bracing, also the box has thicker wood for the mounting hole of the woofer , plus the subwoofer itself looks alot better. Simply said everything is better than that piece of rubbish Velodyne wannabe walmart crap Only minus point is that the subwoofer was partly glued to the box so A- for the Dali and a C+ for the Velodyne price wise (I removed my old snobby comment i made a year ago) I still think this is not worth a 1000dollars, but iam probly wrong as the parts that are used for the amp seem to be of a higher grade than other cheaper brands some caps can be very expensive
@@Techscrews impossible today. The next hi fi studios are hundreds of kilometers away. Hi Fi manufracturers do not offer listen testing. Just some german brands have a good service and offer 8 weeks test listening. All other companies never heared the word "Service" You can just buy online and rely on the 2 weeks return law in germany. That is all you can do here. But i dont have the money to order 2 pairs for test listening. So new companys like Dali ect are pretty screwed.
1000 bucks for a +/- 3db @ 26hz , pressed paper cone and foam surround woofer? No thanks. Also looks like half inch mdf. My cheapo SVS PB1000 is better made.
Looks like a very cheap subwoofer.u can tel. Look at the construction of the sub The components are cheaply made. Just get a rockford system or a jl auio. They are waayyyyyyyy beter build
Curiously, crimping is generally better in an environment where you have a lot of vibration, because metal that has been soldered has been weakened a little bit by the heating, and may end up with metal fatigue and break after a few years. With crimping connectors you have much lower chance of metal fatigue and it's also easy to get consistent production quality with crimping connectors. So I can understand why they chose crimping connectors, they are proven technology.
The equipment should be in a suitable workbench to be disassembled. There was a lack of professionalism in the handling of the tools, some of them mistaken, hence the damage to the sub unit😵🤪😩. Toroidal transformer is a good indication of careful design, little or no electromagnetic interference in the electronic circuit and the magnetic set of the sub bass unit.👍
Just tore down my piece of shit PC sound system, cause my sub wasn't working, and wanted to have a look inside a different unit. All PCBs in my sub are gunked the fuck up like some teenager held a fucking glue gun between his legs and 'had fun' 🤬 Thanks for the video. Was very helpful. *Throws his sub out of the window*
@@Techscrews Very sorry for not being more specific - I used your video to see how a 'real/proper' subwoofer should look like inside versus my crappy Edifier M3600D 😪 Currently looking for new options but I'm still in doubt, since I don't own an amplifier/don't have 'use for it'. I 'need'/want some small speakers, with a bit of oomf in them and still debating with myself whether to shell out another ~150-200$ for PC speakers, or more for either active speakers, bookshelf speakers or a DIY set. Thanks for the quick reply though - You are amazing, and your video was great! :) Good quality video and showed everything that I at least wanted to see 😊
Looks much better than the velodyne. The driver looks like a peerless woofer you can get for less than 100€ www.soundimports.eu/en/peerless-by-tymphany-sls-p830669.html. I have no problem with companies charging what they do. It's the review magazines who are full of BS.
@_ Оболенский_ очень плохо что ты бестолковый и большинство таких как в россии поэтому вы в жопе по полной учи физику математику геометрию и будь умнее чем другие
@@FreeZLO да вот из за таких неучей в целом и другим гражданам страны россия жить не очень комельфо .....учи физику \\\ милок \\\\ так что давай до свидания
@@FreeZLO правильно! Пишет там из своего микрогосударства без своих боеголовок. Пусть радуются, что Россия добрая, а то давно бы весь земной шар был бы Россией. 😁
any next step up in audio cost around twice. Your JBL not bad subwoofer, but Dali ikon is next level, because: - 12" driver - Lowest freq 23Hz - AB class amplifier - twice weigth - more power Also jbl lsr310 is not home HiFi subwoofer, but Studio with some different sound taste.
when you turn on this dali sub, you dont anymore hear about plastic logitech *hits. HiFI speakers are next level, where you dont see blue or red blinking leds or other marketing things. Audio equipment need listen with your ears, not with eyes.
Now i feel ripped off at how little is inside my sub and speakers ...even the amplifier is mainly a big empty box of air with little to show for my money whats worse i pulled apart my phone, my tv , then of all things my car and i have that unmistakable feeling that i have been getting ripped off by manufacturers my whole life i am leaving this video and going to open up my cat hoping theres more for my money in what the pet store sold me than the electronics corporations
![Look inside $1000 Velodyne 15-inch subwoofer [Disassembly]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gj08wiekoSA/mqdefault.jpg)
Newer Dali subwoofer on Amazon:
US: amzn.to/33WBFCo
UK: amzn.to/343N8jk
DE: amzn.to/3mReu4N
I have a Klipsch 12 inch. Of course, it isn’t as high end, and it has the black finish, a shallower magnet, and the usual non-toroidal transformer on the amplifier. The bass port is, surprisingly the exact same!
great video, nice to see all details of amp. section...no one else shows these things nowadays.Amp. section looks really good, a massive torroidal transformer and a solid AB construction.Filtering caps are from SK, a solid capacitor maker.
People here complain about quality and says SVS subs are much better. I just LOL to them. Here on youtube you can see SVS's own introduction videos and you'll see how cheap calss D amplifiers they're using on high end products like Ultra 16, 4000 models. Capacitors on SVS are from a brand which is famous with cap. leakage , early fails. Amps. on SVS subs.are JOKE.
yeah, that torroidal transformer looked like a beefy boy, which is definitely something you want in a sub woofer.
You don't understand why they do it the way they do it. They need powerful d class which most likely wont be heard anyway to use quite high dynamic eq that allows them to hit subbass as no other subwoofer of their size. This Dali won't hit subbass in movies. If you play interstellar or edge of tomorrow start svs will win. If you play music dali most likely will win.
Dali makes some very good sounding speaker,but not so in woofer.
Wow that transformer thou. Most active subs have one that is 1/5th the size of this one.
For this price and power need very impressive parts :)
3:00 cardboard tube for the bass port???
exactly, from a kitchen paper towel :)
well, that's not good for a 1000 dollar sub but at least they are recycling
Curiously, if you can get cardboard that is thick enough, and hard enough - It is a perfectly viable material for loudspeakers.
I did some DIY building with different materials, and frankly, most of them will produce a reasonable sound as long as they :
a) don't get too hard (metals and plastic often sound brittle and tinny)
b) become too soft (thin wood, cloth, soft cardboard, leather)
There's a range in between those two extremes, where as long as it's rigid enough, it'll sound just fine.
That said, don't fit two 12" subs to a parcel shelf in the back of a car and expect audio excellence. 🤣
But stuff like, ½ inch hard cardboard (aka solid cardboard) is ok - Not too unlike plywood, actually.
Edit :
Just found out you guys call it "Hardboard" when talking about hard pressed cardboard .. oh well.
Please test this sub
of course :)
Yes, test@@@@@
No thread inserts, just wood screws direct into MDF and cheap pressed baskets on the driver ! For the price that is very poor construction.
Эх ребята пишущие негативные комменты,а вы что там хотели увидеть,даже если он 600тр стоит,там внутри нет ничего примечательного,этот хоть сделан по человечески,корпус с ребрами жесткости,транс на усилке тороидальный стоит,динамик более менее нормальный,синтепон уложен не плохо,а что хотели увидеть вы,мне просто правда самому интересно,пачку 100 долларовых купюр?
полное право, вся отрасль такова, не только DALI.
В этом хоть ватин поставили. У меня Dali AW10. Так там два кусочка поролона 100 х 120 мм и толщиной 5 мм. по бокам. Я по углам прикрепил валики из ватина, Потом выложил все четырьмя слоями ватина. Сразу ушло бубнение, звук стал чище, мягче, приятнее.
Все это конечно не плохо,но перед тем как такие мероприятия проводить по якобы улучшению,нужно хотя бы измерения самые элементарные сделать до и после доработки,и потом уже писать о якобы улучшении.Не всегда,далеко не всегда если чего то мало внутри саба,особенно поглотителя,не всегда это экономия,в большинстве случаев это уже законченный конструктив,то есть больше не требуется,и там далеко не идиоты все это делают и рассчитывают. @@Mirek1111
Отчасти согласен. АЧХ наверняка изменилась, но в диапазоне примерно 30- 60 Гц - не думаю что сильно. Но звучание намного улучшилось! Самое главное - бубнение исчезло. Не думаю что конструктора этого (бубнения) хотели - все таки наверно экономия.
@@Mirek1111 Экономия на СИНТЕПОНЕ?! Копеечный материал, а товар не массовый (не штучный, понятно).
Not very beefy driver but is similar to perlees drivers
which one?
@@Techscrews dali woofer
Congratulations for 30k subscribers.... From India
thanks
to dalis defence thissub is nealy 11 years old. and at that time a lot of speakers/ subs looked like this.
Can you do tear down on the creative pebble 2.1
Quality of components are very high .
sound also, but price tag :(
Solid build-not too bad! Discrete transistor amp..Good transformator..Caps solid-...Weak PCB but...
but price tag :(
@@Techscrews Oh is it high? I could pay 200$ for this-not more...
I just realised price was in the title lol..
@@Techscrews I got 2 subs in a box-selfmade 2xEMINENCE DELTA12LFC 12-Inch speakers .They sound so good (i use external 300W amp selfmade too :) . They are so strong and well made-you cant even get their coils to warm up (nice vent on the coil) . You can even compare them to that cheap bass . Cost 2x100$ to buy them and the amp cost me 150$ to build (600W troidal transformer) . You want bass - get pro speakers like that...Than you will see the difference in bass-sound. I bet that small thin carton diaphragme on the DALI flaps when over 70W power.
@@cocosloan3748 for your sub project have one big fail :( EMINENCE DELTA12LFC not a subwoofer driver, it's midbass driver and can't play low end bass freq. I have build 18" sub for lovely party sound listening experience with RCF LF18X401 driver: ua-cam.com/video/SJ6Bn6s5BLg/v-deo.html
I want to see a teardown of a APERION BRAVUS II 12D 650W RMS CLASS-D DUAL 12" POWERED SUBWOOFER. :)
Nice video
Well... it will sound nice, don't doubt about it, but not for that price tag.
always biggest problem for sweet thinks is price tag :(
В этом хоть ватин поставили. У меня Dali AW10. Так там два кусочка поролона 100 х 120 мм и толщиной 5 мм. по бокам. Я по углам прикрепил валики из ватина, Потом выложил все четырьмя слоями ватина. Сразу ушло бубнение, звук стал чище, мягче, приятнее.
Это самовнушение! Нельзя полностью глушить корпус АС, это то же самое, что если вы полность заглушите комнату в которой слушаете музыку, только представьте
Три слоя ватин - это совсем не полностью заглушен корпус.Это убрало гул и бубнение.На фирмах выпускающих серьезную акустику, испытания и измерения как раз проводят в очень сильно заглушенных специальных комнатах.
My $250 diy sub is better made.
but how about sound ? What kind of driver you are use ? Amp ? Port freq, box volume ?
@@Techscrews SB34SWNRX driver, about 85L in volume, 100mm port, 35cm in length. The amp is an IRS2092 based class D amp. The sound is very precise, or as some would call it "tight", but not as "in your face" as a car sub.
Same. Tuned to my preference through trial and error, large area port for reduced port noise, and comfortably eats 1000w without breaking a sweat.
DIY can usually be compared to speakers that are 2x-3x more expensive, however this thing looks like a joke for 1000$. Didn't have chance to hear it but build quality isn't something you should expect at this price range.
@@BogdanSerban excellent answer.
Gratz on 30k subs!
I took apart my cheap Polk sub because the transformer was humming so loud. Its made of junk. This sub looks nice but i think it should only cost $500
Is it really 30 kg? What is so heavy the magnet? The roll?
yea, it has huge 12 inch driver, real toroidal transformer for power supply, not some cheap, also big, solid build box.
Next time remove amplifier and push the driver .... lol
Bro what's the exect port size in inches or mm
Only 2x6800 uF
Do you have its service manual or circuit diagram
Sorry, i dont have.
@@Techscrews Could you arrange Sir
thanks for details
Do a look inside samsung SWA-W700 its made by Harmon Kardon for Samsung's soundplus soundbars.
looks nice, but for custom look inside videos I need open donation page :(
Try a look inside the bose SoundTouch 300. I have one but bose doesn’t show a internal design of it. They only show a partial and not a good view of what your buying. I really want to see what’s in it.
Спасибо Вам за проделанную работу.Удачи Вам
Спасибо Вам.
Subwoofer's Magnet looks good 30mmX135mm.
But Too expense.
you need also pay for Dali name and they experience
@@Techscrews
To be fair, there were some decent enough parts in there.
The transformer looked beefy, the capacitor choice is solid and the driver seemed like a decent unit too.
The cabinet was a bit meh, but it'll do, I'm sure. All in all, a decent enough selection, and lets not forget they were made to be paired with the Ikon speakers.
El precio no coincide con la calidad de construcción
Que distancia hay entre el piso del bafle que tiene el tunel de sintonia y el apoyo que va en el suelo ......????? Es iportante saber esa medida ....?????
De acuerdo contigo compre hace unos años un jbl lsr310 enfocado en estudio musical vale la tercera parte de este y es mejor construido, el marketing hace que algo que no vale la pena lo valga y además te sientas privilegiado por pagar sobre precio
@@camargo1012 Yo también tengo Speaker JBL y son muy confiables, la marca que no recomiendo es polk audio, he tenido malas experiencias con un central de la serie TL3 y su famoso subwoofer PSW505, del central se dañó el tweeter, y del subwoofer la tarjeta, la a atención al cliente es pésima y descortes
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You can buy a monster of a woofer for 300. Acoustic Elegance. A 200 class D complete amp. And make a DIY much much much better sub woofer
if is knowledge in electronics and acoustics speakers boxconstruction, then surely, but not all are engineers :)
It's more than just put a driver in a box. If that wasnt the case, all subs would be identical. These things require design, theres things a retail sub manufacturer can do that you just can't.
@@Audfile we are DIY ers WE have hi fi knowledge software hardware wood cutting and all the stuff 25 years experience
Just reading the specifications, I cannot believe that a subwoofer that costs $1000 USD can only play down to 26Hz. That is just ridiculous. And I love Dali speakers, I have a pair. But if I'm slapping down $1K on a sub? That baby should not only be able to play down to 20Hz, it better be able to play BELOW 20Hz!!
It's not 1000 at all, found one used for 300. It's also discontinued.
It costs about 100-150 usd here in Denmark
And depth is not everything
WAITING TO SEE THE HIGH COST PARTS..... PARTS EXPRESS HAS ALL THIS
which in your sense are "HIGH COST PARTS" ? Thanks.
Nice toraidal transformer.
for a lot of power :)
Oh shit........................LIKOS
is it really worth with my s1000?
what is it "s1000"
VERY WELL WORKED SUBWOOFER BUT THE SPEAKER CONNECTORS ARE JUNK,THEY FALL OF INSTANT.
I don't understand why they use such cheap connectors.
Poor driver which is made from pressed steel, it’s about the cheapest driver that you can buy in the market. Considering it’s the heart of the system I’d just stay well clear of this one
Not even bracing inside ! And silicon gaskets. A rip off
Not so bad, there is all around in angles strengthening corners, of course for $1k you might want something like in my custom sub, but this not produce so huge sound pressure. Biggest fail is amplifier board without any silicone gaskets under it. ua-cam.com/video/SJ6Bn6s5BLg/v-deo.html
There IS bracing inside.
WESTEL Audio orthogonal bracing
@@TheRockerxx69 If you see on my video below, I use very huge orthogonal bracing only because I have very huge surface plate and 18" driver with huge range of movement. For dali, there no huge surfac, also there is used 22mm plate + edge bracing. Dali know, where they can save some money and get the same performance.
look at 3:51 and 4:35, there are silicon gaskets on sub driver and amplifier metal frame.
Вариант без сверления динамика. Сначала нужно было открутить усилитель затем слегка отвинтить (не полностью) динамик после чего пару ударов по нижнему фланцу динамика с внутренней стороны и всё.
Я не хотел бить.
I can buy this subwoofer for 340$ ( 1700 ron ) . For me the amp and box looks well made but the driver looks cheap .. even SVS sub under the 3000 series have drivers looking similar but eh . I dont know if i should buy it ... some say its good here in the comments and some say the driver is ass and it isnt worth it . Bad cables .. some say the amp is chinese but they dont knoe shit about amps ( that toroidal size is rare even in 1000+$ amps ) . What's your opinion ? Should i buy this or SVS PB 200P PRO for 550$ ?
for $340 it's nice deal and remember, that always you can sell it for that the same price or more if want upgrade. For extra saved money $210 improve room acoustics or buy DAC.
@@Techscrews thenk you
@@Techscrews ended up with a Nubert AW 1000 subwoofer . Highly recommend you to do a teardown on one of these . Very high quality sub .
@@koyoshima45 looks very well 19 - 110 Hz (-3 dB)
@@Techscrews yes and i want to order a new driver for it - Dayton Ultimax UM 12 - 22 .
Hi friend, I'm looking for some website to buy an amplifier board like the one in the box, thanks for the attention
Google 'subwoofer plate amplifier' or Dayton audio, there are lots out there.
@@englishsteve1465 thanks
I don't understand how speakers cost so much money
R&D eat a lot of money
15 inch ?
no, for HiFi 15" not popular, it's 12".
Look inside sony Mhc-v71d or other similiar
Height of sub driver?
there is 12 inch sub.
Is so big 😨😨😨 $$$$???
You paid $1,000 for that? 😮
For that price the woofer could be much beefier !
This Dali subwoofer box is a huge difference compared to the $1000 Velodyne 15-inch subwoofer
The build quality of the box alone is much better it even has some nice bracing, also the box has thicker wood for the mounting hole of the woofer , plus the subwoofer itself looks alot better.
Simply said everything is better than that piece of rubbish Velodyne wannabe walmart crap
Only minus point is that the subwoofer was partly glued to the box so A- for the Dali and a C+ for the Velodyne price wise
(I removed my old snobby comment i made a year ago)
I still think this is not worth a 1000dollars, but iam probly wrong as the parts that are used for the amp seem to be of a higher grade than other cheaper brands some caps can be very expensive
Thanks for detailed comment.
No wonder I saw it at 495 at offer up
for 495 it's very good deal.
I am glad i did not buy Dali. I was thinking about getting Dali zensors or such.
But i decided for Monitor Audio Bronze 2. Way better choice.
You need objective sound test versus Dali speaker, because they sound very sweet.
@@Techscrews impossible today.
The next hi fi studios are hundreds of kilometers away.
Hi Fi manufracturers do not offer listen testing.
Just some german brands have a good service and offer 8 weeks test listening.
All other companies never heared the word "Service"
You can just buy online and rely on the 2 weeks return law in germany. That is all you can do here.
But i dont have the money to order 2 pairs for test listening.
So new companys like Dali ect are pretty screwed.
do it with axe and hammer
El mehor subwoofer i de mejor calidad de sinido insuperable es la marca audio pro los mejores k e oido
It was a difficult and strange way to get the speaker out 🤔👎
wow noice
thanks :)
@@Techscrews at that price i can get 2 better sub
Nice guy
Thanks :)
Los componentes no son de tan buena calidad para el precio que tiene, hay sub-bajos mejores construidos y son más económicos.
Igual que Bose . Componentes de baja calidad pero con buen sonido todo por el diseño
А какие это, более хорошего качества?
For the right price like 250 euro would be acceptable, but 1000 it is a rip off, omfg
it can find second hand for about $400
Nice sub, but not for 1000 dollars.
👍
08.15 Subwoofer 👎
That looks really cheap
Definitely Not worth $1,000.
1000 bucks for a +/- 3db @ 26hz , pressed paper cone and foam surround woofer? No thanks. Also looks like half inch mdf. My cheapo SVS PB1000 is better made.
surround woofer not made from foam, but Rubber.
I hope you have a video removed inside the Logitech G560 speaker
,,,,
premium price, but no premium quality
Please test
Looks like a very cheap subwoofer.u can tel. Look at the construction of the sub
The components are cheaply made. Just get a rockford system or a jl auio. They are waayyyyyyyy beter build
Too small transformator...
Only 5 amp for subwoofer 12 inch
5amp at 220v its about 1000w.
300ГДН и то интересней динамик.
Svs for 850 is far better than this
SVS subwoofers looks awesome :)
1000 usd? i better buy expensive active speaker such as rcf evox 12.
dude, don't confuse HiFi with PA.
Провода даже не припаяны, а просто на клемнике --- Dali
Curiously, crimping is generally better in an environment where you have a lot of vibration, because metal that has been soldered has been weakened a little bit by the heating, and may end up with metal fatigue and break after a few years. With crimping connectors you have much lower chance of metal fatigue and it's also easy to get consistent production quality with crimping connectors. So I can understand why they chose crimping connectors, they are proven technology.
The equipment should be in a suitable workbench to be disassembled. There was a lack of professionalism in the handling of the tools, some of them mistaken, hence the damage to the sub unit😵🤪😩. Toroidal transformer is a good indication of careful design, little or no electromagnetic interference in the electronic circuit and the magnetic set of the sub bass unit.👍
Just tore down my piece of shit PC sound system, cause my sub wasn't working, and wanted to have a look inside a different unit.
All PCBs in my sub are gunked the fuck up like some teenager held a fucking glue gun between his legs and 'had fun' 🤬
Thanks for the video. Was very helpful.
*Throws his sub out of the window*
not so bad, second hand cost about 400-500$
@@Techscrews Very sorry for not being more specific - I used your video to see how a 'real/proper' subwoofer should look like inside versus my crappy Edifier M3600D 😪
Currently looking for new options but I'm still in doubt, since I don't own an amplifier/don't have 'use for it'.
I 'need'/want some small speakers, with a bit of oomf in them and still debating with myself whether to shell out another ~150-200$ for PC speakers, or more for either active speakers, bookshelf speakers or a DIY set.
Thanks for the quick reply though - You are amazing, and your video was great! :)
Good quality video and showed everything that I at least wanted to see 😊
Мозг есть у тебя!?
что у вас по проблеме ? первый раз смотрети видео "look inside" ?
звенящая корзина. клеммы детские сразу отстегнулись)) почему не изолируют усилитель?? ожидал большего(
Looks much better than the velodyne. The driver looks like a peerless woofer you can get for less than 100€ www.soundimports.eu/en/peerless-by-tymphany-sls-p830669.html.
I have no problem with companies charging what they do. It's the review magazines who are full of BS.
Disappointed. Most DIYers of yutube can surpass this standard.
Generic box, generic driver with a generic amp and this cost $1,000.00??? Was it out of a white van?
they sell brand with history and sound, no matter what kind of parts they use, general is sound, that come out.
кикер за 30 косых разорвёт это как тузик грелку
@_ Оболенский_ очень плохо что ты бестолковый и большинство таких как в россии поэтому вы в жопе по полной учи физику математику геометрию и будь умнее чем другие
@@FreeZLO да вот из за таких неучей в целом и другим гражданам страны россия жить не очень комельфо .....учи физику \\\ милок \\\\ так что давай до свидания
@@FreeZLO правильно! Пишет там из своего микрогосударства без своих боеголовок.
Пусть радуются, что Россия добрая, а то давно бы весь земной шар был бы Россией. 😁
2:47 the speaker looks like made in china.
china made not using so much metal
@@Techscrews well after all i hope the sounds of that speaker still beautiful.
Overpriced for built quality!
the driver look cheaper than $50 car sub-woofer. a scam
not always look is main, it sound very well, deep and fast bass.
you messed up!!!!!1:45 what the hell are you doing?man you are....
That’s a $1000 sub? Stamped steel frame speaker, Chinese amp, 14-16 gauge speaker wiring. Nope!
elimina la guata suena mejor
2:20 faceplam.
why facepalm ?
@@Techscrews You had the rear amp plate out could have just put your hand in through there and pushed on the magnet for the speaker to pop out.
My jbl lsr310 300 usd 18mm mdf Best value, dali = marketing poor value
any next step up in audio cost around twice. Your JBL not bad subwoofer, but Dali ikon is next level, because:
- 12" driver
- Lowest freq 23Hz
- AB class amplifier
- twice weigth
- more power
Also jbl lsr310 is not home HiFi subwoofer, but Studio with some different sound taste.
Ничего особенного, переплачивать за "Dali", не стоит !
А я думал фирма дали обувь вупыскает
Надевай Dali и покоряй дали!
Корзина штамповка а не литая,провода Г...,демпфирование Г....И всё это Говно-1000$???
это DALI, за это также надо платить
@@Techscrews платить надо за изделие а не за шильдик.ИМХО.
Lol 1000$ really?
The cheap Logitech sub are built better 😂😂
This doesent meen that the sub is bad it doesent nedd to lokk well built to be a good speaker
@@fix_it_felix354 so you want a cheap ass looking subwoofer?
when you turn on this dali sub, you dont anymore hear about plastic logitech *hits. HiFI speakers are next level, where you dont see blue or red blinking leds or other marketing things. Audio equipment need listen with your ears, not with eyes.
I'm saving for a Dayton audio um1822 18inch subwoofer
Pour 1000euro le sub, vraiment déçu.
Now i feel ripped off at how little is inside my sub and speakers ...even the amplifier is mainly a big empty box of air with little to show for my money
whats worse i pulled apart my phone, my tv , then of all things my car and i have that unmistakable feeling that i have been getting ripped off by manufacturers my whole life
i am leaving this video and going to open up my cat hoping theres more for my money in what the pet store sold me than the electronics corporations
Good job ruining your sub, please don't try dismantling anything else with those skills.
why ruining? i put it back and it works like new.
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