I feel like bewitched dagger is better than migaurd for countering atk speed seeing as you get the health, max cooldown without green buff, and movement speed and health. Not to mention-50s on relics.
I doubt either will move simply because athena’s kit is so good even the nerf to her ult doesn’t stop the fact that she can dash at somebody, taunt them, and make their gameplay miserable
@@Susshomaruthe two nerf is really gonna hurt her control potential since it's the only strong cc she has. It wouldn't be surprising if that 2 nerf might make ganesha top support next patch.
Been using sentinels boon instead of embrace and its super good seiging and solo frontlining. May be less value when the update hit and warriors are coming back in solo but the heal you get is insane in lane
Ares is a mixed response that tilts to the no side. The anti-synergy with mage solo presence makes aggro play difficult as many will be playing from a distance. It's already bad enough that ares has poor peel, but anti-synergy with two different playstyles makes this scenario much worse when a bad teamfight takes place. If there is no frontline and your team is mobile... do not play ares... your kd will thank you for it. Athena might get knocked down a peg with the nerf on her two. 18 seconds is way too long on the only hars cc she has until you get your cd online or rush it early.
Some gods can’t generally proc cloak at all. By the time you actually get a full cloak it’ll be extremely late game (if the game hasn’t ended already) and it’ll be in best use to go into something else in the meantime.
Try sentinels boon on Ganesha tho the sustain is so ridiculous because you always get an assist plus the bonus gold is ridiculous hes one of the only gods I’ve been trying it on and if you fight in a wave or when a wave spawns sieging phoenix/ tower it’s so good
@@dragonkinger2766he suffers from poor peeling and is quite easy to bully with the current top gods. Erosion puts him in a bad spot and he is a backline support, which can REALLY ruin your game if solo mage is involved as there is no proper frontline.
@@isaacvitela5131 He does not have the best peel but I'd not say he has poor peeling, he has a silence a root and a massive shield, not to mention his ult, all of which can be used for peeling. Errosion is almost never bought and if you watch Incon and Lassiz, Charon is always their top ban priority even above Athena. Also Inbowned, one of the best supports, put Charon 2nd best support in his recent best 5 supports video, and on this topic I feel Inbowned video is much more reliable.
Athena is my main and my games just stay going 40+ minutes 😔 I play with my friend but I’m stuck between gold/plat it sucks. I got like 70+ games this season
Anti synergy with the current meta due to little to no frontline with mage solos running rampant. Heck, sometimes you can accidentally interrupt a kill if you use the 2 wrong. I tried every idea and it's just not working.
@kimoraga2171 casuals if you enjoy playing atlas, more power to ya. Ranked, yeah he has fallen off pretty hard in terms of effectiveness and I played a ton of atlas to even see how much he has waned.
@@Sandstorm-tp2po the same point as your comment asking for a pick for almost a year that he has done multiple times especially when the merc solo backdoor build was a thing and even before that he did it lmao
I feel like bewitched dagger is better than migaurd for countering atk speed seeing as you get the health, max cooldown without green buff, and movement speed and health. Not to mention-50s on relics.
And you don’t have to actually be hit
@@MattGS22 ya midguard is actually so garbage compared to relic dagger upgrades. Relic dagger is THE support item if you have room for iy
After the 10.13 patch drops, do you think Geb and Athena will swap spots or do you still think they stay as #2 and #1 respectively?
This is why I came here to comment! Interested to see what the thoughts are
I doubt either will move simply because athena’s kit is so good even the nerf to her ult doesn’t stop the fact that she can dash at somebody, taunt them, and make their gameplay miserable
@@Susshomaru nerfing her taunt to 18s is pretty rough tho. That's a long cooldown comparatively to other guardians
@@Susshomaruthe two nerf is really gonna hurt her control potential since it's the only strong cc she has.
It wouldn't be surprising if that 2 nerf might make ganesha top support next patch.
I could see geb be prioritized more, but in reality I feel like Athena taunt just makes her better
Been using sentinels boon instead of embrace and its super good seiging and solo frontlining. May be less value when the update hit and warriors are coming back in solo but the heal you get is insane in lane
Ares is a mixed response that tilts to the no side. The anti-synergy with mage solo presence makes aggro play difficult as many will be playing from a distance. It's already bad enough that ares has poor peel, but anti-synergy with two different playstyles makes this scenario much worse when a bad teamfight takes place. If there is no frontline and your team is mobile... do not play ares... your kd will thank you for it.
Athena might get knocked down a peg with the nerf on her two. 18 seconds is way too long on the only hars cc she has until you get your cd online or rush it early.
For the default build why are you recommending gaulant vs Cloak? And y not both?
Some gods can’t generally proc cloak at all. By the time you actually get a full cloak it’ll be extremely late game (if the game hasn’t ended already) and it’ll be in best use to go into something else in the meantime.
go prophetic into contagion it makes it super easy to stack it then
is sentinals embrace gone now? what replaces it?
Weaken was trippin on this episode bruh lmaoo
Try sentinels boon on Ganesha tho the sustain is so ridiculous because you always get an assist plus the bonus gold is ridiculous hes one of the only gods I’ve been trying it on and if you fight in a wave or when a wave spawns sieging phoenix/ tower it’s so good
I love boon
@@Ottocide sooooo good
Surprised Charon is not here.
Are you going to redo solo lane next patch lol
Why not Charon? He's literally one of the best gods in the game right now.
Charon should've been top 5 or atleast got a honorable mention, he is very strong
@@dragonkinger2766he suffers from poor peeling and is quite easy to bully with the current top gods. Erosion puts him in a bad spot and he is a backline support, which can REALLY ruin your game if solo mage is involved as there is no proper frontline.
@@isaacvitela5131 He does not have the best peel but I'd not say he has poor peeling, he has a silence a root and a massive shield, not to mention his ult, all of which can be used for peeling. Errosion is almost never bought and if you watch Incon and Lassiz, Charon is always their top ban priority even above Athena. Also Inbowned, one of the best supports, put Charon 2nd best support in his recent best 5 supports video, and on this topic I feel Inbowned video is much more reliable.
Is pridwen good to build or is it situational for certain gods?
Pretty much if you don't have BP, get that first and upgrade it , and if you still have a slot, use pridewen unupgaded
As a support is it bad if i last hit a few minnions?
Yes
Get sunder with the eldrich dagger. You can proc abuse with the item. It makes you so tanky and you get to de ward.
No syl?
Athena is my main and my games just stay going 40+ minutes 😔 I play with my friend but I’m stuck between gold/plat it sucks. I got like 70+ games this season
Is maui no good ?
Hes solid just not cream of the crop
Is yemoja dead now?
ahh yes the video i needed, good looks ma boi.
no atlas representation feels weird. Maybe it's just me but I feel he's awesome
Anti synergy with the current meta due to little to no frontline with mage solos running rampant. Heck, sometimes you can accidentally interrupt a kill if you use the 2 wrong.
I tried every idea and it's just not working.
@isaacvitela5131 that's weird I've had the opposite experience but who knows I'm not a pro lol
@kimoraga2171 casuals if you enjoy playing atlas, more power to ya.
Ranked, yeah he has fallen off pretty hard in terms of effectiveness and I played a ton of atlas to even see how much he has waned.
I play alot of geb little sobek. Guess ima check out Athena nvr touched the god.
WE NEED SOBEK ATACK SLEED
unserious tier list
How?
hey you made a GOOD JOB
Day 1 asking for sobek Full Attack speed Build. (For the culture)
Chronos on geb ftw
ATHENA ATHENA ATHENA
i love support!!!
id still take Horus over any of these gods any day (maybe with the exception of Athena). i think Horus beats Geb, Ares, Ganesha and Sobek easily.
Horus beating Ares pfft 😂 chain goes brrrrrr have fun not using 2 abilities for half of the team fight
@@mrdhong2143 i mean if ares even gets a chance to move.
need a top 5 omipitence gods (GUAN DIFFS NU WA)
Geb is the top 1 bruh
I'm NexzusxD 😂❤
first
This is not the person to listen to for support
Saying this while pretending someone like YOU would know what's good and bad is hilarious. Learn your place in the knowledge tiers little guy
Day 360 out of 365 days for Solo Lane Mercury Vid :)
Yeaa aight bro
@@brandonramsaran6529 If I may ask what was the point of your comment? Literally accomplished nothing
@@Sandstorm-tp2po the same point as your comment asking for a pick for almost a year that he has done multiple times especially when the merc solo backdoor build was a thing and even before that he did it lmao
Day 1 of hopping on the Sobek AA bandwagon. Give the people what they want @weak3n
Sobek AA 🥲😭
Weak3n putting the smite community on his massive back 🥹