HUGE Fender Bandmaster Reverb STACK - Versatile AC/DC, STONES, Morricone, SURF!
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2023
- Wonderful versatile 1970 Fender Bandmaster reverb stack with huge stock Fender Bandmaster Rev 12" 2x12 Cab with stock Utah speakers. I'm playing them with a 2013 Gibson SG Standard Custom Shop and a 2016 Squier Affinity Telecaster.
Gotta say, that's one of the best sounding amps you've ever featured. Wow.
Glad to hear it
One huge thing about the Bandmasters and Vibroluxes compared to the supers and bassmans is the smaller output transformer!
You're right on here. I've owned one (1968) for 30yrs now, got it for free. The power transformers are smaller too. Both had blown up and were replaced with transformers from a 1964 Bassman. Compared it to a stock one some years ago, and it was a major improvement both clean and dirty. Tighter bass. Now the difference in rectifiers is more noticeable. 5U4GB is better in mine vs GZ34, giving singing leads.
Had one of those heads about 30 years ago. Bought it from a friend, who needed quick ca$h. Was good on its own, but also great with pedals. Ended up saving another buddy's gig with it one night when his Twin Reverb had an issue; luckily my house was only 1 mile away !! He (Mike) bought the amp that night, after the band got paid. He still has it.
That is some of the best Tone i've heard on your channel!
Thanks, great to hear that!
Yes all those 60s and 70s Fender Amps sound soo classic :) Love them!
These are, or were, so overlooked and very awesome. Its got 2 6L6s but with a tube rectifier which is really nice. I got one about 3 years ago for $300 (just the head) and it is great!
I have owned this amp since 1983 but mine is a 69. I have never wanted to buy another amp, it's such a great amp.
yes
Nothing better than vintage Fender .... I say this as a long time vintage Marshall owner.
I have the Bandmaster head TFL 5005D that locks with hand turned bolts onto a Fender Cab with 2 15" JBL's. It was found in a Catholic church that used it only on Sundays for couple hours for a few years to power their organ.
How does it compare as a guitar amp to this bandmaster with Utahs?
OMG, what awesome tone. My dad had a BF Bandmaster when he played back in the 60s. This one sounds incredible. Amp modeling doesn't touch this. Also nice to see no Fryette in the middle of the chain, just pure rock bliss. Thanks again Johan!
Glad to hear it! Cheers
I love mine, I have a 1971 with the big cab with the Utah's in it as well. Got it from a church and it is pristine!
Okay, that sound is insane!
This sounds massive. Great playing on this one Johan - you showed how versatile this amp can be.
Thanks Chris! Glad to hear it
I used to own one of those cabs. And just like Johan I used a hand screwdriver to take out ALLLLLLL those back panel screws. First time in my life I ever thought "I need a drill" lol.
Hahaha! Yeah there’s a ridiculous amount of screws on it
So fookin clean. Look at that badge
I have this same amp (almost). The TFL5005D. Really sweet sounding amp. The tube rectifier gives it a nice squish. Very versatile. Can go from chimey clean sounds to nice classic rock overdrive.
Very sweet sounding Fender! Loved that tone at 9:33. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks!
Driven sounds are very sweet. Cleans with the Tele are lovely too. Other settings have plenty of magic also! Lovely quality amp.
Thanks, really good to hear that
With a proper cab, this is actually a really exceptional bass amp
Great great sound, amp looks fantastic.
Loved the tremolo and I don't normally 👍
Thanks Eddie!
You are the man Johan !! Love the Bandmasters !! Cheers from Argentina
Glad to hear it! Cheers from Sweden!
Bought one of these that had been converted to have 2x8 speakers inside for a grab and go solution. Also sounds great through my EVM 12L and 15L cabs!! 🤘
I have the BF cousin to this amp and I forgot how massive they sound with ample reverb. It's like vintage Fenders and reverb are just made for one another.
Love your sound here. I have a 68 non reverb with a 2x15 cts stack. Sounds amazing.
Thanks, glad to hear it!
John, as always---such a pleasure to hear you play and review some GREAT amps.....this one is especially good and it would have been great to hear a start thru it too! Awesome brother!
Thanks brother! Great to hear that!
Great demo as always Johan. I have used Bandmasters over the years and they are a good choice because you can do a lot with them. They are still a bargain as well. Cheers!
Thanks Darrell! Glad to hear it.
Marcus King is using a TFL5005D Bandmaster Reverb with his Orange MK Ultra for live shows. Absolutely killer tone for blues/southern rock.
I can only imagine the prices will be going up now that Marcus is using one.
I have the MK ultra it’s freaking amazing
Sounds damn good.
Thanks, glad to hear it!
I really love the sound of that amp!! Great demo as usual 😀
Thanks, glad you like it!
If I was google, I would censor this video. This beast with that SG needs to be kept under raps.
I've had one since 2000. Mine has been modded a bit, but only to fix some issues, the board kept getting more and more warped, so I had it rewired on a new board. Also, different OT so I can choose between 4,8, and 16 ohms.
Just came on board.. great video..
I am lucky to possess a 1969 Bandmaster TFL 500D ..all original.. tubes etc. had it recapped , tubes biased, one preamp tube replaced.. and a 3 prong power cord added.
My amp rolled out of Fullerton California in July, 1969.
It was played for 5 years by its original owner.. then sat in storage until I bought it 2 years ago.
Absolutely loved this demo, grea tones al the way, with the SG it reminded me to a 1972 american band called Morly Grey, but the odd thing is that their guitarist used a Les Paul Custom with an Acoustic solid state amp, and you sounded exactly the same!
Thanks, great to hear that! I’m gonna look up Morly Grey!
I have the same amp 71 model. One of the last vintage bargains, along with a JMI era AC50. The Bandmaster TFL5005D (TFL5005D is the domestic US model and TFL5005X is the export model) was Dave Grohls main rig in early Foo Fighters, put a Rat pedal and Boss DM-2 delay in front of it and you’ve got instant early Foo Fighters.
Cool! I didn’t know that.
Thanks for that info.
That reverb/trem almost sounded like a Leslie
The stones And the beatles Rock a Twin Reverb. The band master is great for high school proms and reunions.
That has to be the biggest 40-watt into 2x12 rig of all time. Sounds great, though! Probably the ultimate in Fender stage sound.
Yeah by far loudest and punchiest 40W I’ve ever encountered
At about 4:44 I hear the tone from "lunatic fringe" by Red Rider. Not sure if they use this amp, but it just reminds me of that song.
great amp this too
holy moly that cab is bonkers!
Cheers ;-)
i've gotta get one of these.
Hi, Johan!
Very nice and fat sound. I think, minor chords are the best for me to understand the sound well. Maybe because of my personal mind games! Great Fender! See you!
Siegfried
See you man!
@JohanSegebornj I wrote you something and I am already your first subscriber our there! But what it's gonna be??❓
Bet it would sound nice with a pair of greenbacks. I like the utah speakers too though.
Thanks!
would love to hear this bandmaster compared to a tweed bandmaster like townshend used on whos next
Yeah those are very different. I play the reissue here ua-cam.com/video/kTi6ulaYtio/v-deo.html
Think I like these, gotta get me one
There you go again!
The bandmaster is a sleeper in the Fender library. Typically they appear to be similar to other Fender amps of whichever era. I liked a 67 in particular which Mbritt profiled for my Kemper. Also I kinda like a cranked showman amps for early Page or Clapton woman tone neck pickup vibe. Bandmaster clean is Fendery but has a more tweed warmth. I like the distortion too but the super or say a 59 Twin are juicier.
I know the Stones were using Ampeg almost exclusively in the 70's but a lot of those tones sounded dead on for Exile/Goats Head.
Original cathode bypass capacitors and bias cap. Those should be changed. I imagine the filter caps are the originals also. You are right, I compared the schematic to my 1969 Super Reverb (AA1069 revision), and they appear to be the identical circuit, with the same voltages. The only difference is the output transformers used.
Thanks, great feedback
Just reported your fake channel. See ya scammer.
Original electrolytics are quaint but they can nuke a nice vintage amp. I tell anyone who will listen that they should be changed on sight
I can really recommend to mod the heads baffle by putting two 8 inch speakers in. Ideally I will recommend Jensen P8R or C8R or a mix. And dont use the original baffle.
Interesting!
Looks like a 5Y3 rectifier as is used in a Deluxe Reverb, and not a 5U4GB as specified. Better get the correct larger current capacity rectifier in there for an AA270 Bandmaster Reverb. 5Y3 has a current capacity of 125ma. The 5U4GB this circuit needs can deliver 300ma. Demanding too much current from an undersized rectifier tube can make it short out and take out the power transformer. The GE 6L6GC data sheet says 237ma are needed for the circuit used here to produce full power output. This amp can be louder...Just sayin'
Thanks yeah it sure looks smaller than a 5U4. It was super loud for 40W though. I’ll let the owner know.
The rectifier tube is a GZ34. It's the right one according to the tube chart inside the amp. I'm the new owner of this particular amp now.
I am SHURE (sic) it will COOK! \m/
Put a Big Muff and crank it like Ronnie Montrose did on his first album .... He used a 3/10 Bandmaster combo
Ronnie's was Tweed
Massive Sound. Whats this purple Marshall? Looks a bit like mine. 💜✌🏼
I just got a '67 Bandmaster with matching cab over the weekend. Non-reverb model. Looking at the price tag on the unit in the video I think I got a good deal! Think google did the USD conversion right.
So much for Marshalls!
Pretty clean Fender. 👍
If you can find a couple of original C12N's or Q's or the Webervst equivalents or a pair of old Oxford's?
I'm sure you would enjoy a superior tonal spectrum.
A lot of people like the JBL's, but that BMR is only running around 40 watts.
I don't mind the very early alnico Utah gold speaker's they built, but I could never stand those later orange ceramics.
Have fun experimenting.
Congratulations 👍👍
Thanks, I actually like these Utahs. I have a 1963 C12Q we can compare with. Those are of course even better as you say
@@JohanSegeborn
I think that the vintage Jensen's have a more traditional sound and are much more "open" sounding, especially with single coils for blues and country.
I used to use a 71 deluxe reverb with a webervst C12N clone, as my main gig and removing the orange Utah in that particular amp was most notable.
Like removing a wet blanket off the amp. It was rewired to blackface specs and I may have disconnected the bright cap too. It was many years ago, soo.
It really came alive "tonally" with the webervst and I also tried an original 64 Jensen C12N in it as well, but preferred the webervst.
Just my opinion, good luck Johan.👍👍
Johan, do you like the Utah speakers? Have you ever tried two amps at once, one with Greenbacks and one with Utahs? The second amp can slave off the first or out of a Y box. I've tried it and with some EQ dialing* on the second amp, gets a rich full sound, unmatched imho.
*15" Utahs with EQ: Bass 10, Mid 0, Treb 0, Presence 7+ (to suit the metal center covers).
Interesting! I have liked all Utah speakers I’ve played so it’s strange they’re not held in high esteem
Beautiful crunch! Did you use an Overdrive pedal to get the crunch and Lead-Tones with the SG?
12:30 TONE IS AMAZING!!!!
doncha hate taking all those screws out to open these cabs?? :)
Yeah, now is probably a good time to listen to Simon and finally get that drill. 😂 Cheers
Jesus jumped, that's lovely
Hej, jag har precis köpt ett par utah 10” speakers från 1967. Har du någon erfarenhet av den modellen?
/Jonas
dina videor är mycket uppskattade 👍🏼
Wait Johanbyou have a favorite amp to use ? That’s news to me , please tell us more and why ?
JMP Super Lead, 2204 and SV20H are the ones I play the most. They sound like Ace Frehley
Is that 20000 krona?
Very bright. Nice though
Thanks!
Christ... that is all... Jesus was a carpenter and he probably made those cabs... Ive wasted my whole life playing marshals amps, and lesser fender models...
Listening to this amp, I can relate. And following anyone else other than the Jesus whom the Bible describes in truths, parables, stories, histories, types, shadows, and prophesies from cover to cover is a complete waste of life.