Thank you so much Tony...I've owned my E473 for an over a year now and had no Idea how to record( the owners manual is terrible and was of no help). Your video was a tremendous and a great instructional tool. I am 75yrs old and just need to remember all that I have learned. I feel I am finally making progress and will continue to watch your videos down the line.
Yay! Thank you! :) This is really helpful for new owners of the PSR-E473. (Especially for those who love to play, but aren't necessarily tech-y). You really break down the operating steps in a comprehensive way. Your channel is truly the go-to for understanding this instrument and it's functions...so appreciated!. :)
@@PianoTone Yes, I am! :) Very much! I bought a Casio CT-S1000V around the same time, so it's been fun comparing the two. Both have their strengths. Both are very nice. The CT-S1000V is small in size, (it actually will fit in a rifle case), so I've been taking it places with me. The interface is VERY different. My stationary keyboard is the PSR-E473. You're definitely streamlining my grasp of it, something I really appreciate because it cuts back on the time I would spend trying to understand a manual. I never liked studying. In a school context, watching your tutorials is like the difference between reading a dry history book and watching a great documentary on TV. ;) Lots more interesting, memorable, and understandable. I'm REALLY looking forward to your video on DAW recording! I was also wondering if you can record voice directly with the other tracks on the keyboard. I know you'll cover all the bases. You are a great help to anyone who finds this channel. Thank you!
@@ShellyAnderson0624 Thanks again for the kind words! No you can't record your voice with the other tracks because the multi-track recording is MIDI data only. Although I'm hoping that once you finish your multi-track song, you should be able to play it back and sing over it and record THAT as an audio file to the USB drive. I'll have to test that out (not sure yet if you can play back a MIDI song and record it to the audio section at the same time or not).
Great video on the 473 ...it's been a huge help because none of what you presented is in the owners manual. Your videos will now enable me to use the keyboard in the fashion it's been engineered to be used.. thanks a lot
Man im happy i came across your channel. My psr 473 just arived and i wanted to see how i make a song by using the tracks. I was under the impression that i could record my voices onto a track in a daw with the midi data , but you thankfully said i at least could record ot on a audio track (without midi data) Im waiting for my mpc to return from repair , meantime i can start learning to actualy play the keys myself. Again , great videos
@@PianoTone sorry for the many Q , i am watching ur videos but in the meantime i want to make a song on the 6 tracks. I started 5 months ago as a newbee on the mpc (daw) There i work with sequences , bars , loops and im able to mute a track let say seq 4 - 5 and 8 - 9. But if want to record here on the board am i ment to play every track fully in 1 try without mistakes the full lenght ? And if im recording kick and snare from a drum kit am i able to ad hats afterwards on the same track ?
@@ipainthouses3084 Hey again! Check out video 4 (backing track).ua-cam.com/video/lVnBdlnouZE/v-deo.html. it will answer some of your questions. So what you can and cannot do does depend on whether you just want to do the whole process on the keyboard, or use that as a starting point then move it to a DAW. Because when you export your MIDI file to a DAW, it does come in as indvidual tracks so you can do whatever you want with them. If just working on the keyboard, you would need to mute the tracks in a perfect take yes; and for adding extra percussion you can do that, but it does take up a track. Hope that helps and have fun!
@@PianoTone thanks again , i have some of the answers but im gonna watch the video anyway. Want to learn as much as possible. But it seems that the things i want i just cant do without a daw or in a compilated way. But for now i should focus mainly how to pkay and when i want to record i do it via my daw. Gonna check out that piano man. Have s great and creat8ve weekend , all the best from the netherlands
Thanks so much glad you liked the video! Make sure you check out the other videos in this series. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Thanks again for a helpful video! I got me the EW425, am loving it more than most keyboards I’ve ever had! Having a lot of fun, finding it mostly user-friendly! I didn’t see that you covered this: when recording a Song using MIDI, the track records the reverb and chorus, but not DSP1. It also records your mod knob changes while playing!
I never noticed that it didn't record DSP1! That seems pretty odd - thanks for the heads up! And yes the 425 is a pretty awesome keyboard, glad you're enjoying yours! And, thanks for the kind words and checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
Any chance you’ve figured out how to turn DSP1 on/off? They have a handy top panel button for DSP2, but no such luck for DSP1. I like having options: for example, for my go-to piano Registration, I start off with just the Main voice, and then kick in the Dual and/or Split voices to change things up. The only other way I see of doing this is with DSP1 and 2. Without a button to press, my workaround is to use Knob Control #3 for DSP1 and search out effects that use Knob 2 as a wet/dry control. I put the wet/dry at the center detente and adjust the delay or whatever to taste. Then I save this to a registration WITH KNOB 2 ZEROED OUT (fully counter clockwise). That way I can use Knob control #3, and bring up Knob 2 to center position, and voila, delay already set to taste! I can barely find any forum support for this board! Really surprised, this is a kick ass board by Yamaha, I would have thought there’d be 10x’s more forum topics available. Another thing I just figured out with this fantastic 76 note range: for doing Splits I can either do it at 45 or 52. Using 52 as the SP, that gives me an octave range for every note, plus a 3d octave for the E. Using 45 as SP, I’ve limited the range to an area I can mostly easily crawl up and down. I want to get fluent, without thinking, in generating bass lines, and at 45, top note of A, I’ve created a limited zone to train my hands to play bass! Also am keeping some Registrations to just doing Main/Dual/Split. Once I get involved with ACCMP or Creator Grooves, the OTS defaults it to voices I don’t want to use and end up not being able to go back to a Registration I spent a lot of time fine tuning. Haven’t figured out how to keep that from happening!
@@randalgoat The only way I know of to turn DSP1 on or off is buried in the menu system (oh Yamaha, why not ONE more panel button!???). I never used the OTS to select rhythms simply because of that; but yes the registrations will be super important, and there aren't unlimited #'s so - have to take some planning! For forums, keyboardforums.com has sections for different brands and there's also yamahakeyboardforum.com
@@PianoTone yes, it’s an entry level, displaying brilliance in tone and keybed and features is the honey, but then you must cast a longing eye on the upgrade boards! I’d love to get the SX700. After loving the Korg Pa1000, I’m ready for Yamaha’s version. The 1000 was way too complex, I’m open to another way of having play-along auto accompaniment fun
Me too. Pretty tutorial (as always). I see the left/up corner blue display is not the same as lcd on Your yamaha. In yamaha is too small and too bright I can't see what is actually display.
Hey thanks! I know about the display sorry about that! I did my best but I’ve been having a hard time finding a way to film that screen, I wish I could adjust the contrast. I film the main video with my iPhone, and have tried filming the screen up close at the same time with a decent webcam but the webcam just shows a glow - I will keep trying out different ways though. Thanks again for checking out the channel
This is exactly what I'm working on now with my ew425. Thanks for your helpful vids. (Edit: I paused your video and recorded a couple of 2-part improvs on user songs 1 and 2. Still haven't gotten a USB thumb drive device yet, but am ordering one from Amazon tonight. When I get a few audio things on my computer (in another room) then will upload to my UA-cam channel, or my SoundCloud or SoundClick sites, and link to them in a comment on this or another of your vids. Also hope to do a short vid sometime in the not too distant future.)
Thank you so much for your great reviews and instructional videos. I recently bought the PSR-EW425 based on yours and other positive reviewers. Loving it! This is an extremely timely video because I'm just trying to do my first recording. Hoping that your next video might give me a solution to a problem I'm having. I have an intro with a solo guitar. I don't start the accompaniment until many bars in. The problem is that the recording doesn't start until the style starts playing so the intro isn't recorded. I've tried different tricks like having the volume to 0, start the style then turn off sync start, but that didn't work. I believe that that isn't a problem for an audio recording, but I'd like it in MIDI format if possible. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Hi there! Thanks for the kind words! And I’m working on that very thing right now lol. I play a lot of piano ballads that start with just the piano and vocals, then instruments come in, and I’m trying to accomplish exactly what you’re describing. My hope is to be able to record a drum kit voice in a normal track, playing just the hi-hat or something like that; and then have the accompaniment start part way through. My backup plan is to use a rhythm style with minimal drums at the start - so far #60 (unplug) and #63 (gtr bld) have pretty minimal variation A’s so they’re not working badly - that might be the quick solution for you; try those styles starting in variation A, mute all style parts but drums, then bring in other style parts / switch to B as you need to. The other solution would be to record the drum track from where the drums come in; then export that midi file to a DAW like GarageBand and insert measures in front of the track and use the apps drums to add hi hats etc but that’s a lot of work. Hope that helps; let me know if you find any other styles that might work better. Thanks again for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Ok I just quickly tried something and it worked! 1) select a drum kit voice I chose 299 rock kit; the F# above middle C is a hi hat of some sort 2) I chose a style 73 blues rock 3) I pressed REC then muted all the tracks for the drums 4) I turned on the metronome 5) waited for a 1 count and played the F# for a couple measures then unmuted the drums on a 1 beat and voila!!! Success!!! This will be in my next video
Thank you so much! I will experiment with that. To be exact, I'm using Style 18 16 Beat for Careless Whisper starting with a solo guitar but also using the left hand chords for background without the sync start. I play this free format without being tied to a beat until I turn the sync start on during the guitar performance.
Thanks for your thorough teaching method! Hoping you could help me clear a user track. I just want piano and nothing else, but all the user sounds play when I hit record and start playing. I think it also saved my song and I don't want all those sounds .not sure how to delete it or get my EW425 to simply play the piano. The manual doesn't explain any of this. hope you can help! Thanks SO MUCH!
That's right. I'm so sorry that I'm responding so late when I'm the one who asked the question! I actually got another keyboard. My keyboard had some defects. Thanks so much for your quick reply!@@PianoTone
Great video! I recently bought the PSR EW425. I want to do some recording (midi so I can move it to a DAW), and have a question. If I just want the drums from the style without the accompaniment, how would I do that? I will record keys, bass, and guitar on the other tracks. Do I just record the same way you did without playing anything else for the first track I record? And will that just record the drums on track 6? I realize that I would have to figure out how many measures that need to be recorded and make the appropriate changes from main A to main B while the style is being recorded. Please let me know if that’s the best way to just record the drums, so that I can record the other tracks separately. Thanks again for your channel. I just subscribed.
Thanks a bunch! Check out the other videos I made in this series (links in description) especially moving MIDI recordings to a DAW (I use GarageBand on an iPad for the example, but the basic idea still applies). When you import your MIDI recording into the DAW, each part of the accompaniment comes in as its own track in the DAW so even if you record your song on the keyboard with more than just drums, you can just delete or mute those other tracks in your DAW. Here's the link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/fjEEN-_XNec/v-deo.htmlsi=eIY6VHkkBKRLmyjW Hope that helps & thanks for subscribing!
Hi i wonder if you can help ,ive downloaded a couple of midi files (Smooth santana) and a couple of others they wont play on this keyboards or the drums become the piano ?even if drums are in track 10 ?
To be honest I've never done that myself - you should check out www.psrtutorial.com; they have great forums there, people know tons about that stuff. Sorry I can't help!
Just read in reference manual that there's an option to convert a user song into SMF. That might be the ticket! Will test later. Haven't recorded user song yet.
hello sir, can i record my finished internal multi track user song to audio file on usb stick on this keyboard without using computer? thanks in advance
Brilliant! Many thanks... I have subscribed as you have a great way of teaching. In a few minutes, I got the have of multi-tracking through this video. Is there a way to adjust individual track volumes or is that an export and Garageband job?
Mr. Tone, I hereby promote you to PIanissimo Tone, with all rank and privililges thereto appertaining. I wanted a track with drums but not chord style. I had learned how to do this once but had long since forgotten, and the OM is scanty on detail. This video fixed me right up1
I'm not sure how you would have your DAW play it using the keyboard's original voices . . . If you load a saved MIDI file into your DAW it will use the DAW's voices/voices you assign (unless I'm misunderstanding your question) Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
Hey really great videos... just bought a 425. Q: Can you start playing a track mid way through the whole piece or do you have to start from the beginning each time? Thanks
Thanks a lot, you helped me figure it out:) But I have one issue, I'm always running out of memory, the song just stops and says "mem full", and I've cleared all my unused users. But no matter what I can't record more then two songs without it filling up, please help me with that if there's a fix.
Tone im sorry to bother , but when im recording only track 1 is available. I cant go to other tracjs , they are transparent, even when i turned of the board it still this way after a day. What happened ?
The tracks are only dark once you've recorded something to them. If you record a style it lands in A(6); then for subsequent recordings it will land in 1 unless you specify which track you are recording to by holding that track button down when you press record. The 13:00 mark talks about adding more tracks
@@PianoTone thats just it ,i cant choose a track to record , only track 1 is available . I have no way to record on 2,34,5 , and its since yesterday. In the worst case , i can reset to factory by holding the right key when booting up , right ?
@@ipainthouses3084 You can factory reset that way if you need to; are you sure you're in MIDI record mode and not audio, or something else going on perhaps? Let me know if you get it figured out.
@@PianoToneyeah you were right , what i wanted to know was at 13 min mark , had to hold rec down and then choose 2 or 3. pretty stupid of me. But when i record the wah guitar i dont hear the wah in the playback , just a flat guitar, and thats with other voices aswell. And the other thing is as midi controller , when i turn of local when im connected to my DAW , i still hear the voice aswell the sound i play as midi. It only record the sound of my daw ofcourse but playing with a voice isnt ideal.
@PianoTone thanks for these tutorials i'm new with the psr 473 , and can't figure out how to play together with a midifile i know how to mute the tracks now , but if i play a chord like C or G and so on nothing changes in the sound do i something wrong ? or just not possible ?
Not sure what you mean by "playing with a midi file"; do you mean just playing along with the accompaniment? If so, then you need to make sure accompaniment is turned on, and that you are playing chords on the left half of the keyboard. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone hi , thanks for your quick replay , yes ment playing also chords with a midi tried to turn on accompaniment but with a midi , it doesn't think on this keyboard it is not possible (btw i follow your channel already a while and the tutorials are very very helpfull many thanks again to share these 🙂
Can I record my vocal voice and piano at same time on record mode straight to usb not using logic pro just raw to USB while I play and sing st same time
Yea you can! Any audio coming into the keyboard (mic, aux in) gets included in all audio outputs (speakers, L/R line outs, USB to host, usb flash). 5th video in this series talks about audio recordings: Recording Yamaha PSR-E473 & PSR-EW425 - Video 5: Recording Audio & Piano Videos ua-cam.com/video/TO_sl5Frxso/v-deo.html Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Hi, Tony Great video as always - you're teaching me more about my new ew425 than the Yamaha manual can! One question which I assume is "no" - I am using a DAW (Cakewalk) to record different tracks - some from VSTs (I use "Synth 1" mostly) - and some from the Yamaha's own sounds. That all works fine. However am I right in assuming that what you show in this video can only be done with the Yamaha's own ON BOARD tones / and you cannot "save" any sounds you might be playing via a VST / DAW on to the Yamaha itself?
To clarify - if I have one of the Yamaha's "styles" playing on it - let's say "70s rock" as a drumbeat - then if I play notes on my VST - they cannot be recorded on to the Yamaha (only to the DAW)? Meaning the Yamaha can record the 70s rock style - but won't pick up whatever I play on my DAW?
You are correct (answer is no; at least as far as I know). The only way to record anything external would be to stream it in as audio, play along and record it as audio (not midi).
Many thanks for your always quick response! To what you said about "recording audio" - I assume that means by using the DAW? Or can the Yamaha also record external Audio (in addition to Midi)? Edit - when you say "stream it in as audio" - the Yamaha can "hear" external audio and save it? If yes, any cable needed? Or the USB cable from my PC (and therefore my DAW) to the Yamaha is all that's needed?
@@makaras The 425 has multiple ways to record high quality audio - you can record to a flash drive, or using the USB out (which sends audio as well as MIDI); that's how I record all my talking and playing videos on the keyboard - USB out straight to my iPhone and the camera app uses the direct audio instead of the built in mic. So if you had a finished track (other than what you want to play on the Yamaha) on your pc/tablet, you could play that (as audio) into the keyboard using the Aux in, and then record your play (and singing if you want) together with the incoming audio stream from your DAW into either a USB flash drive or back out of the USB to host port to another device recording the audio. It's not a multitrack recording, it all gets mixed together into one (so basically whatever is coming out of your DAW is essentially a backing track you're playing along with). Not sure if it will meet your needs but you could also record JUST what you're playing back INTO your DAW as another track (audio only) as you play along. The USB to host is 2 way audio, so you can also use this to hear the audio from your DAW instead of the aux in. If you set "Audio Loop Back" to off, that means the incoming audio from your daw does NOT get included in the outgoing audio going back to your DAW, so you could set up and record to a new audio track that way (but again, just audio not midi from the keyboard). Hope that helps!
@@PianoTone I can only give a thumbs up once - or I'd give 100 ! Thanks so much - and I had no clue this was even a thing! >>> If you set "Audio Loop Back" to off, that means the incoming audio from your daw does NOT get included in the outgoing audio going back to your DAW
Hi. Great video. Does ew425 have a step input - an event editor function ? You can use step input to specify the length and pitch of each individual note when recording . If it does can you perform step input of Auto Accompaniment chords (chord events) as well ? Thanks
Hey thanks! And no the PSR-E series doesn’t have an event editor - the pro series (PSR-SX 600/700/900) may. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Hi there - you can as an audio file or audio track in a DAW. But for MIDI you would need to record the rhythms to MIDI to a song on your keyboard and then export that MIDI to the flash drive to copy to your DAW. Thanks for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTone What if I need to live stream (UA-cam/OBS) from my keyboard? Do I need some additional interface ? If so . Can you please give those details and product links which are suitable for E473
@@yogendramaarisetty I've never actually DONE a livestream, but since the 473 has an audio interface built in (as well as a mic input) you shouldn't need any additional hardware. Pianos that don't have the audio interface built in will need an external one like a Focusrite Scarlett. If your device (pc/mac etc) doesn't recognize the 473 audio signal, you might need a Yamaha driver from their site. Hope that helps!
Check out the video on recording audio instead of MIDI: Recording Yamaha PSR-E473 & PSR-EW425 - Video 5: Recording Audio & Piano Videos ua-cam.com/video/TO_sl5Frxso/v-deo.html
Can u just use recording on the tracks without having to use a style, I don't want to be locked into using styles, I just want to record my compositions with no input but the chosen voice(s).. I purchased a 425 after a 30 Yr break from keyboards, I had a DX7 & Casio CZ5000 back then & I'm having terrible issues trying to use this hardware, for example I thought I'd found out how to get arpeggio up but if I used the wheel it just started scrolling through voices, I only want to run through the 152 arpeggios but I'm finding it embarrassingly difficult to do almost anything & expected it to be relatively easy to work out how to do things yet it has left me feeling stupid.. sadly there is no quick guide to at least get idiots like myself to be able to use some basic functions before getting to the multiple uses of buttons etc.. I've become house bound & wanted to get the best keyboard available in this price range but instead of making my quality of life better it has frustrated me & made me feel stupid which I simply did not expect having used pro boards. I guess I just didn't realise how far technology has left me behind! Any help or even a guide video for idiots wld be immensely helpfull.
Yes you can! And if you like, you can turn on the metronome during the recording and it won't be recorded. Thanks for checking out the channel, feel free to subscribe
@@PianoTonei edited my comment & added a lot so plz do look at it again.. thank u so much for the reply & your videos, my biggest request is for a video on exactly which buttons you use & in what sequence to get to the 152 arpeggios or other functions that will hopefully build enough confidence to gradually be able to use the 473/425 to its full potential
@@borisVspider66 Hey again! I don't actually have the keyboard at the moment (lent it to someone - I'm playing my DGX-670 most of the time right now), and I didn't use the arpeggio features very much, but this might help you get started: - press the harmony/arpeggio button (harmony and arpeggio are considered the same thing; harmony options are 1-26, arpeggios are 27-178) when it's on you'll see the "harmony arpeggio" appear on the screen - to select the type of arpeggio (or harmony) hold down shift and press the harmony arpeggio button, then you shoud be able to use the wheel to scroll through the types (look below the harmony/arpeggio button you'll see "TYPE" with a square around it; any buttons with that type of label below the button means hold down SHIFT and press that button) Manual (instructions on using arpeggios is on page 26): usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/1543938/psre473_en_om_a1.pdf Data List (arpeggio list is on pg 23): usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/1544204/psre473_en_fr_es_de_ja_dl_a0.pdf Hope that helps!
Thank you so much Tony...I've owned my E473 for an over a year now and had no Idea how to record( the owners manual is terrible and was of no help). Your video was a tremendous and a great instructional tool. I am 75yrs old and just need to remember all that I have learned. I feel I am finally making progress and will continue to watch your videos down the line.
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Yay! Thank you! :) This is really helpful for new owners of the PSR-E473. (Especially for those who love to play, but aren't necessarily tech-y). You really break down the operating steps in a comprehensive way. Your channel is truly the go-to for understanding this instrument and it's functions...so appreciated!. :)
Hey thanks a lot for the kind words super appreciated! You still enjoying your new keyboard?
@@PianoTone Yes, I am! :) Very much! I bought a Casio CT-S1000V around the same time, so it's been fun comparing the two. Both have their strengths. Both are very nice. The CT-S1000V is small in size, (it actually will fit in a rifle case), so I've been taking it places with me. The interface is VERY different. My stationary keyboard is the PSR-E473. You're definitely streamlining my grasp of it, something I really appreciate because it cuts back on the time I would spend trying to understand a manual. I never liked studying. In a school context, watching your tutorials is like the difference between reading a dry history book and watching a great documentary on TV. ;) Lots more interesting, memorable, and understandable. I'm REALLY looking forward to your video on DAW recording! I was also wondering if you can record voice directly with the other tracks on the keyboard. I know you'll cover all the bases. You are a great help to anyone who finds this channel. Thank you!
@@ShellyAnderson0624 Thanks again for the kind words! No you can't record your voice with the other tracks because the multi-track recording is MIDI data only. Although I'm hoping that once you finish your multi-track song, you should be able to play it back and sing over it and record THAT as an audio file to the USB drive. I'll have to test that out (not sure yet if you can play back a MIDI song and record it to the audio section at the same time or not).
È possibile avere le istruzioni in italiano????? grazie
This is superb instruction! Sure beats trying to figure out the text in the manuals! Thank You!
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I also agree about your channel being the go-to one for learning. You explain things in such a precise thorough way. I really appreciate it!
Thanks so much super appreciated!
This is the most helpful, clear guide I have seen so far. Thank you so much for this series. Truly helps a lot! 😊
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Great video on the 473 ...it's been a huge help because none of what you presented is in the owners manual. Your videos will now enable me to use the keyboard in the fashion it's been engineered to be used.. thanks a lot
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I'm so grateful that I found you. All this info will come in good use.
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Man im happy i came across your channel. My psr 473 just arived and i wanted to see how i make a song by using the tracks. I was under the impression that i could record my voices onto a track in a daw with the midi data , but you thankfully said i at least could record ot on a audio track (without midi data) Im waiting for my mpc to return from repair , meantime i can start learning to actualy play the keys myself. Again , great videos
Thanks again!
@@PianoTone sorry for the many Q , i am watching ur videos but in the meantime i want to make a song on the 6 tracks. I started 5 months ago as a newbee on the mpc (daw) There i work with sequences , bars , loops and im able to mute a track let say seq 4 - 5 and 8 - 9. But if want to record here on the board am i ment to play every track fully in 1 try without mistakes the full lenght ? And if im recording kick and snare from a drum kit am i able to ad hats afterwards on the same track ?
@@ipainthouses3084 Hey again! Check out video 4 (backing track).ua-cam.com/video/lVnBdlnouZE/v-deo.html. it will answer some of your questions. So what you can and cannot do does depend on whether you just want to do the whole process on the keyboard, or use that as a starting point then move it to a DAW. Because when you export your MIDI file to a DAW, it does come in as indvidual tracks so you can do whatever you want with them.
If just working on the keyboard, you would need to mute the tracks in a perfect take yes; and for adding extra percussion you can do that, but it does take up a track.
Hope that helps and have fun!
@@PianoTone thanks again , i have some of the answers but im gonna watch the video anyway. Want to learn as much as possible. But it seems that the things i want i just cant do without a daw or in a compilated way. But for now i should focus mainly how to pkay and when i want to record i do it via my daw. Gonna check out that piano man. Have s great and creat8ve weekend , all the best from the netherlands
Great video. Looking for more of yours. Much underrated keyboard.
Thanks so much! It is a pretty amazing keyboard for the price isn't it!
Thank you for this super useful video. It's a lot faster to learn like that than by reading the manual.
Thanks so much glad you liked the video! Make sure you check out the other videos in this series.
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❤Thank you so much; Love your Channel.
Thanks!!!!
Just fantastically useful, Tone, as always! Thanks a bunch! John, England.
Thanks so much, glad it's helpful!
Thanks again for a helpful video! I got me the EW425, am loving it more than most keyboards I’ve ever had! Having a lot of fun, finding it mostly user-friendly!
I didn’t see that you covered this: when recording a Song using MIDI, the track records the reverb and chorus, but not DSP1. It also records your mod knob changes while playing!
I never noticed that it didn't record DSP1! That seems pretty odd - thanks for the heads up! And yes the 425 is a pretty awesome keyboard, glad you're enjoying yours!
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Any chance you’ve figured out how to turn DSP1 on/off? They have a handy top panel button for DSP2, but no such luck for DSP1. I like having options: for example, for my go-to piano Registration, I start off with just the Main voice, and then kick in the Dual and/or Split voices to change things up. The only other way I see of doing this is with DSP1 and 2.
Without a button to press, my workaround is to use Knob Control #3 for DSP1 and search out effects that use Knob 2 as a wet/dry control. I put the wet/dry at the center detente and adjust the delay or whatever to taste. Then I save this to a registration WITH KNOB 2 ZEROED OUT (fully counter clockwise). That way I can use Knob control #3, and bring up Knob 2 to center position, and voila, delay already set to taste!
I can barely find any forum support for this board! Really surprised, this is a kick ass board by Yamaha, I would have thought there’d be 10x’s more forum topics available.
Another thing I just figured out with this fantastic 76 note range: for doing Splits I can either do it at 45 or 52. Using 52 as the SP, that gives me an octave range for every note, plus a 3d octave for the E. Using 45 as SP, I’ve limited the range to an area I can mostly easily crawl up and down. I want to get fluent, without thinking, in generating bass lines, and at 45, top note of A, I’ve created a limited zone to train my hands to play bass!
Also am keeping some Registrations to just doing Main/Dual/Split. Once I get involved with ACCMP or Creator Grooves, the OTS defaults it to voices I don’t want to use and end up not being able to go back to a Registration I spent a lot of time fine tuning. Haven’t figured out how to keep that from happening!
@@randalgoat The only way I know of to turn DSP1 on or off is buried in the menu system (oh Yamaha, why not ONE more panel button!???).
I never used the OTS to select rhythms simply because of that; but yes the registrations will be super important, and there aren't unlimited #'s so - have to take some planning!
For forums, keyboardforums.com has sections for different brands and there's also yamahakeyboardforum.com
@@PianoTone yes, it’s an entry level, displaying brilliance in tone and keybed and features is the honey, but then you must cast a longing eye on the upgrade boards! I’d love to get the SX700. After loving the Korg Pa1000, I’m ready for Yamaha’s version. The 1000 was way too complex, I’m open to another way of having play-along auto accompaniment fun
Just got a psr e473. Thank you for this.
Hey congrats! Hope you enjoy it (it's a fantastic keyboard)
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Super informative video ☘️🙏🏼👏🏻👏🏻
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Exactly what I was searching for. Thanks.
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Me too. Pretty tutorial (as always). I see the left/up corner blue display is not the same as lcd on Your yamaha. In yamaha is too small and too bright I can't see what is actually display.
Hey thanks! I know about the display sorry about that! I did my best but I’ve been having a hard time finding a way to film that screen, I wish I could adjust the contrast. I film the main video with my iPhone, and have tried filming the screen up close at the same time with a decent webcam but the webcam just shows a glow - I will keep trying out different ways though.
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Great job..will be very helpful going forward on my new e473..tx
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This is exactly what I'm working on now with my ew425. Thanks for your helpful vids. (Edit: I paused your video and recorded a couple of 2-part improvs on user songs 1 and 2. Still haven't gotten a USB thumb drive device yet, but am ordering one from Amazon tonight. When I get a few audio things on my computer (in another room) then will upload to my UA-cam channel, or my SoundCloud or SoundClick sites, and link to them in a comment on this or another of your vids. Also hope to do a short vid sometime in the not too distant future.)
Sounds awesome!
Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much for your great reviews and instructional videos. I recently bought the PSR-EW425 based on yours and other positive reviewers. Loving it! This is an extremely timely video because I'm just trying to do my first recording. Hoping that your next video might give me a solution to a problem I'm having. I have an intro with a solo guitar. I don't start the accompaniment until many bars in. The problem is that the recording doesn't start until the style starts playing so the intro isn't recorded. I've tried different tricks like having the volume to 0, start the style then turn off sync start, but that didn't work. I believe that that isn't a problem for an audio recording, but I'd like it in MIDI format if possible. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Hi there! Thanks for the kind words! And I’m working on that very thing right now lol. I play a lot of piano ballads that start with just the piano and vocals, then instruments come in, and I’m trying to accomplish exactly what you’re describing. My hope is to be able to record a drum kit voice in a normal track, playing just the hi-hat or something like that; and then have the accompaniment start part way through.
My backup plan is to use a rhythm style with minimal drums at the start - so far #60 (unplug) and #63 (gtr bld) have pretty minimal variation A’s so they’re not working badly - that might be the quick solution for you; try those styles starting in variation A, mute all style parts but drums, then bring in other style parts / switch to B as you need to.
The other solution would be to record the drum track from where the drums come in; then export that midi file to a DAW like GarageBand and insert measures in front of the track and use the apps drums to add hi hats etc but that’s a lot of work.
Hope that helps; let me know if you find any other styles that might work better. Thanks again for checking out the channel feel free to subscribe
Ok I just quickly tried something and it worked!
1) select a drum kit voice I chose 299 rock kit; the F# above middle C is a hi hat of some sort
2) I chose a style 73 blues rock
3) I pressed REC then muted all the tracks for the drums
4) I turned on the metronome
5) waited for a 1 count and played the F# for a couple measures then unmuted the drums on a 1 beat and voila!!! Success!!! This will be in my next video
Thank you so much! I will experiment with that. To be exact, I'm using Style 18 16 Beat for Careless Whisper starting with a solo guitar but also using the left hand chords for background without the sync start. I play this free format without being tied to a beat until I turn the sync start on during the guitar performance.
Fantastic work. Thanks so much
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thanks so much I just ordered this yesterday and I needed to know how to use it lol!🙃
Thanks!
thank you
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Cool 😎
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Thanks a lot man
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@@PianoTone I did bro
Very good
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MIDI - Musical Instrument Digital Interface
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I noticed the recording function makes my tremolo slower than I set it up idk why
Not sure ….
Thanks for your thorough teaching method! Hoping you could help me clear a user track. I just want piano and nothing else, but all the user sounds play when I hit record and start playing. I think it also saved my song and I don't want all those sounds .not sure how to delete it or get my EW425 to simply play the piano. The manual doesn't explain any of this. hope you can help! Thanks SO MUCH!
By “user sounds” do you mean you just don’t want the accompaniment to play while you are playing?
I figured it out! thanks so much for reaching out so quickly! I was able to erase the tracks. Thanks SO MUCH For everything you're doing! @@PianoTone
That's right. I'm so sorry that I'm responding so late when I'm the one who asked the question! I actually got another keyboard. My keyboard had some defects. Thanks so much for your quick reply!@@PianoTone
Great video! I recently bought the PSR EW425. I want to do some recording (midi so I can move it to a DAW), and have a question. If I just want the drums from the style without the accompaniment, how would I do that? I will record keys, bass, and guitar on the other tracks. Do I just record the same way you did without playing anything else for the first track I record? And will that just record the drums on track 6? I realize that I would have to figure out how many measures that need to be recorded and make the appropriate changes from main A to main B while the style is being recorded. Please let me know if that’s the best way to just record the drums, so that I can record the other tracks separately. Thanks again for your channel. I just subscribed.
Thanks a bunch! Check out the other videos I made in this series (links in description) especially moving MIDI recordings to a DAW (I use GarageBand on an iPad for the example, but the basic idea still applies). When you import your MIDI recording into the DAW, each part of the accompaniment comes in as its own track in the DAW so even if you record your song on the keyboard with more than just drums, you can just delete or mute those other tracks in your DAW.
Here's the link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/fjEEN-_XNec/v-deo.htmlsi=eIY6VHkkBKRLmyjW
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@@PianoTone thank you for your quick reply. That's a great idea. I will do that. Thanks again!
Hi i wonder if you can help ,ive downloaded a couple of midi files (Smooth santana) and a couple of others they wont play on this keyboards or the drums become the piano ?even if drums are in track 10 ?
To be honest I've never done that myself - you should check out www.psrtutorial.com; they have great forums there, people know tons about that stuff. Sorry I can't help!
Sir can you give me instructions how to get external rhythm for E473 ?
I've never done that sorry; it has so many already lol.
Just read in reference manual that there's an option to convert a user song into SMF. That might be the ticket! Will test later. Haven't recorded user song yet.
I talk about that in the end of this video actually - saves the user song as MIDI on a USB flash drive so you can then open it in DAW software
Thanks for your help. Curious to see how it will convert the free form beginning.
hello sir, can i record my finished internal multi track user song to audio file on usb stick on this keyboard without using computer? thanks in advance
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Brilliant! Many thanks... I have subscribed as you have a great way of teaching. In a few minutes, I got the have of multi-tracking through this video. Is there a way to adjust individual track volumes or is that an export and Garageband job?
Okay... just seen Vid 4... note about track volumes!😀
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Mr. Tone, I hereby promote you to PIanissimo Tone, with all rank and privililges thereto appertaining. I wanted a track with drums but not chord style. I had learned how to do this once but had long since forgotten, and the OM is scanty on detail. This video fixed me right up1
Thanks a bunch (I may need to change my website to that I like it ;))
Question? If I record and save a midi file then have may DAW play it using my original keyboard voices can I play live while it plays?
I'm not sure how you would have your DAW play it using the keyboard's original voices . . . If you load a saved MIDI file into your DAW it will use the DAW's voices/voices you assign (unless I'm misunderstanding your question)
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no reel evolution since my PSR 400 1990
Hey really great videos... just bought a 425.
Q: Can you start playing a track mid way through the whole piece or do you have to start from the beginning each time?
Thanks
Thanks a lot, you helped me figure it out:)
But I have one issue, I'm always running out of memory, the song just stops and says "mem full", and I've cleared all my unused users.
But no matter what I can't record more then two songs without it filling up, please help me with that if there's a fix.
I’ve never seen that to be honest - I’ll reply again if I can figure anything out
@@PianoTone thank you🙏 and if there's a way to do live loops, or just make a recording that loops that'll be great cause I haven't figured it out yet
Hey! I have the yahama keyboard e373...so..how to review the recordings?
Tone im sorry to bother , but when im recording only track 1 is available. I cant go to other tracjs , they are transparent, even when i turned of the board it still this way after a day. What happened ?
The tracks are only dark once you've recorded something to them. If you record a style it lands in A(6); then for subsequent recordings it will land in 1 unless you specify which track you are recording to by holding that track button down when you press record. The 13:00 mark talks about adding more tracks
@@PianoTone thats just it ,i cant choose a track to record , only track 1 is available . I have no way to record on 2,34,5 , and its since yesterday. In the worst case , i can reset to factory by holding the right key when booting up , right ?
@@ipainthouses3084 You can factory reset that way if you need to; are you sure you're in MIDI record mode and not audio, or something else going on perhaps? Let me know if you get it figured out.
@@PianoToneyeah you were right , what i wanted to know was at 13 min mark , had to hold rec down and then choose 2 or 3. pretty stupid of me. But when i record the wah guitar i dont hear the wah in the playback , just a flat guitar, and thats with other voices aswell. And the other thing is as midi controller , when i turn of local when im connected to my DAW , i still hear the voice aswell the sound i play as midi. It only record the sound of my daw ofcourse but playing with a voice isnt ideal.
That's my problem i don't want accum-sounds together
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@PianoTone thanks for these tutorials
i'm new with the psr 473 , and can't figure out how to play together with a midifile
i know how to mute the tracks now , but if i play a chord like C or G and so on nothing changes in the sound
do i something wrong ? or just not possible ?
Not sure what you mean by "playing with a midi file"; do you mean just playing along with the accompaniment? If so, then you need to make sure accompaniment is turned on, and that you are playing chords on the left half of the keyboard.
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@@PianoTone hi , thanks for your quick replay , yes ment playing also chords with a midi
tried to turn on accompaniment but with a midi , it doesn't
think on this keyboard it is not possible
(btw i follow your channel already a while and the tutorials are very very helpfull many thanks again to share these 🙂
Great stuff how to record on Psr 473 without using the accompanment
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@@PianoTone 🙏🙏Can I record without using the accompanment?
@@lveengciphe4367 Yes you can! You can turn on the metronome if you want as well and hear it to keep time, but it won't be recorded.
Can I record my vocal voice and piano at same time on record mode straight to usb not using logic pro just raw to USB while I play and sing st same time
Yea you can! Any audio coming into the keyboard (mic, aux in) gets included in all audio outputs (speakers, L/R line outs, USB to host, usb flash).
5th video in this series talks about audio recordings: Recording Yamaha PSR-E473 & PSR-EW425 - Video 5: Recording Audio & Piano Videos
ua-cam.com/video/TO_sl5Frxso/v-deo.html
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Thank u got it
Hi, Tony
Great video as always - you're teaching me more about my new ew425 than the Yamaha manual can! One question which I assume is "no" - I am using a DAW (Cakewalk) to record different tracks - some from VSTs (I use "Synth 1" mostly) - and some from the Yamaha's own sounds. That all works fine. However am I right in assuming that what you show in this video can only be done with the Yamaha's own ON BOARD tones / and you cannot "save" any sounds you might be playing via a VST / DAW on to the Yamaha itself?
To clarify - if I have one of the Yamaha's "styles" playing on it - let's say "70s rock" as a drumbeat - then if I play notes on my VST - they cannot be recorded on to the Yamaha (only to the DAW)? Meaning the Yamaha can record the 70s rock style - but won't pick up whatever I play on my DAW?
You are correct (answer is no; at least as far as I know). The only way to record anything external would be to stream it in as audio, play along and record it as audio (not midi).
Many thanks for your always quick response! To what you said about "recording audio" - I assume that means by using the DAW? Or can the Yamaha also record external Audio (in addition to Midi)? Edit - when you say "stream it in as audio" - the Yamaha can "hear" external audio and save it? If yes, any cable needed? Or the USB cable from my PC (and therefore my DAW) to the Yamaha is all that's needed?
@@makaras The 425 has multiple ways to record high quality audio - you can record to a flash drive, or using the USB out (which sends audio as well as MIDI); that's how I record all my talking and playing videos on the keyboard - USB out straight to my iPhone and the camera app uses the direct audio instead of the built in mic.
So if you had a finished track (other than what you want to play on the Yamaha) on your pc/tablet, you could play that (as audio) into the keyboard using the Aux in, and then record your play (and singing if you want) together with the incoming audio stream from your DAW into either a USB flash drive or back out of the USB to host port to another device recording the audio. It's not a multitrack recording, it all gets mixed together into one (so basically whatever is coming out of your DAW is essentially a backing track you're playing along with).
Not sure if it will meet your needs but you could also record JUST what you're playing back INTO your DAW as another track (audio only) as you play along. The USB to host is 2 way audio, so you can also use this to hear the audio from your DAW instead of the aux in. If you set "Audio Loop Back" to off, that means the incoming audio from your daw does NOT get included in the outgoing audio going back to your DAW, so you could set up and record to a new audio track that way (but again, just audio not midi from the keyboard).
Hope that helps!
@@PianoTone I can only give a thumbs up once - or I'd give 100 ! Thanks so much - and I had no clue this was even a thing! >>> If you set "Audio Loop Back" to off, that means the incoming audio from your daw does NOT get included in the outgoing audio going back to your DAW
Hi. Great video. Does ew425 have a step input - an event editor function ? You can use step input
to specify the length and pitch of each individual note when recording . If it does can you perform step input of
Auto Accompaniment chords (chord events) as well ?
Thanks
Hey thanks! And no the PSR-E series doesn’t have an event editor - the pro series (PSR-SX 600/700/900) may.
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many thanks for reply
Great video and love my 473. Did you ever make a video for using GarageBand ?
Can we record rhythms Directly on to computer..
Hi there - you can as an audio file or audio track in a DAW. But for MIDI you would need to record the rhythms to MIDI to a song on your keyboard and then export that MIDI to the flash drive to copy to your DAW.
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@@PianoTone What if I need to live stream (UA-cam/OBS) from my keyboard?
Do I need some additional interface ?
If so . Can you please give those details and product links which are suitable for E473
And is there an option to Left Hold for ACMP? just like the option available in PSR-SX970
@@yogendramaarisetty I've never actually DONE a livestream, but since the 473 has an audio interface built in (as well as a mic input) you shouldn't need any additional hardware. Pianos that don't have the audio interface built in will need an external one like a Focusrite Scarlett.
If your device (pc/mac etc) doesn't recognize the 473 audio signal, you might need a Yamaha driver from their site.
Hope that helps!
@@yogendramaarisetty Not quite sure what that option is (never seen one of those keyboards)
how to record mic?
Check out the video on recording audio instead of MIDI:
Recording Yamaha PSR-E473 & PSR-EW425 - Video 5: Recording Audio & Piano Videos
ua-cam.com/video/TO_sl5Frxso/v-deo.html
@@PianoTone thanks
Can u just use recording on the tracks without having to use a style, I don't want to be locked into using styles, I just want to record my compositions with no input but the chosen voice(s).. I purchased a 425 after a 30 Yr break from keyboards, I had a DX7 & Casio CZ5000 back then & I'm having terrible issues trying to use this hardware, for example I thought I'd found out how to get arpeggio up but if I used the wheel it just started scrolling through voices, I only want to run through the 152 arpeggios but I'm finding it embarrassingly difficult to do almost anything & expected it to be relatively easy to work out how to do things yet it has left me feeling stupid.. sadly there is no quick guide to at least get idiots like myself to be able to use some basic functions before getting to the multiple uses of buttons etc..
I've become house bound & wanted to get the best keyboard available in this price range but instead of making my quality of life better it has frustrated me & made me feel stupid which I simply did not expect having used pro boards. I guess I just didn't realise how far technology has left me behind!
Any help or even a guide video for idiots wld be immensely helpfull.
Yes you can! And if you like, you can turn on the metronome during the recording and it won't be recorded.
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@@PianoTonei edited my comment & added a lot so plz do look at it again.. thank u so much for the reply & your videos, my biggest request is for a video on exactly which buttons you use & in what sequence to get to the 152 arpeggios or other functions that will hopefully build enough confidence to gradually be able to use the 473/425 to its full potential
@@borisVspider66 Hey again! I don't actually have the keyboard at the moment (lent it to someone - I'm playing my DGX-670 most of the time right now), and I didn't use the arpeggio features very much, but this might help you get started:
- press the harmony/arpeggio button (harmony and arpeggio are considered the same thing; harmony options are 1-26, arpeggios are 27-178) when it's on you'll see the "harmony arpeggio" appear on the screen
- to select the type of arpeggio (or harmony) hold down shift and press the harmony arpeggio button, then you shoud be able to use the wheel to scroll through the types (look below the harmony/arpeggio button you'll see "TYPE" with a square around it; any buttons with that type of label below the button means hold down SHIFT and press that button)
Manual (instructions on using arpeggios is on page 26):
usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/1543938/psre473_en_om_a1.pdf
Data List (arpeggio list is on pg 23):
usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/1544204/psre473_en_fr_es_de_ja_dl_a0.pdf
Hope that helps!
Great stuff, awesome videos. Do you by any chance do skype lessons?
Thanks so much I appreciate that! I don't do lessons, but I do have other videos on the 473/425 on my channel if you want to check them out
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