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Intel Core i7 8700K Review: The Fastest Gaming CPU Money Can Buy?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2017
- It's fast. Sometimes brutally fast. A hushed awe please for the new i7 - faster for gaming than the 7700K, faster than six, eight and ten-core Skylake-X enthusiast chips. And of course, faster than Ryzen. Here's the full lowdown on the flagship Coffee Lake-S i7.
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Richard's hand movements are legendary
They are truly hypnotic.
It's absurd it's like he's doing sign language 😂😂
Reminds me of the handmovements in the Muppets
Lol
Now I will never be able to look at him the same.
Welcome back Richard we missed you.
*Wichard
wizard
shakka877 *Witcher
yes. luv this guy.
It's Wrichard ,get it wight!
This is why competition matters
And this is the time and place to support the underdog. Otherwise we can say goodbye for any innovation.
GaborBartal totally agree also the underdog is not a bad choice you spend less on motherboard and cooling
Ya especially that you end up paying less in the end. No compromise :)
@@tarcal87 and thank you and everyone else who supported the underdog including myself because we pushed amd to keep innovating. Now we have Zen 3 which is best for gaming and absolutely demolishes in productivity. This is why I'll continue doing the same for GPUs.
To be honest, this could've been achieved quite a few years prior by a company with Intel's massive budget.... I'm glad that people do acknowledge Ryzen's influence on this situation.
But it doesn't matter to us indians, all parts here( atleast in mumbai) are heavily overpriced
esperCELL They tried their best to keep the monopoly going.
Harshal shetty haha you said it. Though the ryzen prices are still okay here IMO. The GPU prices are a joke though
Chetan Ashish ryzen is 2k above us msrp. And a 1070 in us is cheaper than a 1060 3gb here. I had to to settle for a used 750ti
Thanks to AMD we may actually see Intel release CPU's worth looking at.
which is why you buy AMD and not Corruption Intel
Merc yeah, not touching Intel with a ten foot pole anymore. I have a 1600X and I'm satisfied at the moment and if AMD refreshes Ryzen and improves IPC ever so slightly and improved over clocking, I'll have a nice e upgrade once again
Intel looses their credibility forever.
truth to be told development starts around 2-3 years (sometimes more) before the release of the cpu family
and finishes about near 1 year before the release. you can say thank for AMD ryzen to bringing competition so the prices will be saner but all last generations including coffee lake
their specs and performances has nothing to do with ryzen.
fanbois always loose just buy whatever is faster the competetion will have to catch up which amd did
Gonna be one hell of an upgrade from my i5 3570k.
This is such an incredibly well-done and in-depth analysis. And that last video makes me feel good about my choice to upgrade from a 3770k@4.3 + DDR3 1600 to an 8700k + DDR4 3000.
I watch these videos and nod. Pretending to know what’s going on.
86Rikki If you do this enough, you'll find one day you randomly start to understand. It's how I got interested in PC hardware.
86Rikki lol me too, i know very little on technology. But i know I don’t need this processor. Who cares about 30 or 50 more fps. 100 is good enough already.
Well said man. Unless you have a 240Hz monitor you'd be very hard pressed to even notice a difference.
chacazulo1987 It's called future proofing.
Lol
It's incredible that games like Rise of the Tomb Raider are even playable on an i7-2770k. back in 1995 I bough a top of the line 133mhz pentium and 5 years later in 2000 games like Diablo II couldn't even run on it just shows how slowly cpus are advancing these days.
in 1996 there were cpus already thrice as fast as that 133mhz. yes, it used to progress more in one year than it does in a decade now.
Exactly every year was exciting for cpu releases as they were generally at least twice as fast as the last.
Good times
Yeah, it's pretty annoying how boring the progress is these days.
Hopefully in a few years their will be some type of breakthrough that dramatically improves performance somehow, like switching from silicon to a new material or something.
used to HOST our Diablo2 lan party games on my 200Mhz Pentium1 with a VooDoo2....man we have come along way :D
I think I finally feel comfortable upgrading from my 4790k. I know I could get a few more years out of it but... this is the kind of upgrade I've been waiting for
Same here. Finally something I feel good to replace my 4770K with. I just kind of want to go to enthusiast platform, though. If not then it's 8700K for sure, would be way cheaper at least.
MadFinnTech as much as I would like to go with an enthusiast platform I just can't justify it. I wouldn't use it fully. Heck, I could probably even go for the i5 but I get into streaming on the occasion. That's my justification for the i7 at least lol.
Thank you very much for the test vs older i7 CPUs. Personally, I am still using an i7-3770K, but after almost 6 years I think its time for an upgrade. And the 8700K looks like a really good choice.
This is probably the most enthusiastic Intel release and comparison I’ve seen in a while. I like the excitement as there hasn’t been much in a while.
who love digital foundry ?i do
Me. Even my username shows it.
i loves digital foundry !me
I come from 2077. Richard still uses Far Cry Primal, Crysis 3, Division, Witcher 3, and Ashes of the Singularity.
When the first leaks appeared about the 8700k and all of them said that it is even faster than the 7700k in single thread performance, I knew that it would destroy Ryzen 1600x by 30 to 50%.
But that it even outperforms the 7700k by up to 50% is really impressive!
I have a 2600K@4.6Ghz and this is the first Intel CPU in all these years that really makes sense to upgrade to. Gaming is my primary usage scenario.
Just wish there were games worth the hardware upgrade other than microtrasactions multiplayer black holes.
The improvement in gaming performance with this CPU is nothing short of remarkable.
meh, I've seen better
Glad to hear it. Didn't see any reason to upgrade from my 6700K, but I do now. Not to the 8700K but the 9700K, hopefully it'll be using that new 12nm tech we've all been hearing about.
Thank you for comparing the 3770k which is what I am still using.
I have de lidded mine and it's at 4.8Ghz, any more and it requires crazy voltage for my chip!
3770k is an awesome CPU. You don't need to update for another couple of years for gaming.
>Still using concrete for thermal paste
>Wanting us to plop down money for another motherboard
>Virtually no IPC improvements
No thanks, I'll wait till the Zen refresh next year to upgrade. Also, I'm disappointed there was barely any comparisons to the 1600 and 1700.
Zen2 is only 2019.
It'll be earlier
@Kvarnholmen
Good luck with finding one in stock. Coffee Lake 2017 (paper) launch.
Typical AMD fanboy Intel hater comment. I'll take this chip any day over the Ryzen chips. I have to buy a new motherboard anyway so I don't really care. I never understood upgrading only the CPU anyway. When I upgrade my CPU I do the whole nine yards: motherboard, memory, and CPU.
+MadFinnTech
There is absolutely zero technological improvements to justify getting a whole other board. It's literally a 7700k with 2 extra cores. I understand upgrading your MOBO where it makes sense, like going from DDR3 to DDR4, but there is no legitimate reason to need to upgrade your board other than because Intel wants you to.
I can at least expect better IPC and more overclocking headroom from the Zen refresh coming next year AND I don't need to spend another 200+ dollars on a motherboard.
Meanwhile consoles still on jaguar Lmao
Consoles are well made machines especially the X. Stop being a hater and learn to give credit when credit is due kid. You dont even know how Jaguar works
Phoenix MH83 I wish consoles would improve crossfire support, ( ps4 pro has two GPUs in crossfire ). I wish that were translated into PCs at least with amd cards as they need it.
Thank you for this video, especially the comparison to older i7s. Now I don't feel bad about my upgrade from a 4790K.
I was undecided about which cpu to buy 2 or so years ago. After watching this it went straight into my amazon basket
If you have either 6700k or 7700k there is no logical need after spending all that money for those systems.
hey, im planning to buy rtx2080 gpu and Alienware AW3418DW monitor, do i have to upgrade my cpu too, i have 6700k right now?
@@vlat18 your CPU will bottleneck the GPU. I'd suggest you get a 8700k for a 2080.
It will hold, but it's still a bottleneck, the 8700k is a much better proc
involver involver ok, i will buy it in near future
Every Intel fan should thank AMD for this. If AMD wasn't back in the game, Intel would still be peddling their 4c/8t i7's all over again.
I7 3770K 5 years on the market and still has power love 3770K :)
By far the best CPU reviews on youtube, thanks again
So many videos about it. But I clicked DigitalFoundry.
But how many people are playing those specific games and using those specific programs to validate the upgrade.??
The ddr4 memory improvement here is extremely important. So many people keep saying ram speed doesn't matter, on a high overclock, or when using 4 memory modules memory clocks are limited to to stress on the memory controller. And judging from this I would rather set my 8700k to 4.6ghz at 1.2volts with no avx offset and run my ram at it's xmp of 3600mhz rather than have insane 90c temps just to get to 4.8 on air without delidding and then have to run my ram at 3200mhz because of the stress the overclock has put on the board.
Can't wait to finish my build and enjoy this beast.
Omg yay it's Richard! Nice review, am excited for your Jaguar tests :)
Im not upgrading my motherboard. Fuck coffee lake.
Joseph Upton ikr, I’m waiting for toffee lake
@Jabez Thats codeword for too much thermal pasting.
@Joseph Upton
I'll let you in on a secret, you don't have to upgrade every gen, you junkie.
If you have an i5(or better) from the last few generations you're fine.
Im upgrading from haswell i5 4590 tho, so it is worth it to me
ALREADY!?
didn't the 7700K just come out like late last year what the fuck lol
this is late this year.
remember in 1996 when cpus more than doubled in speed in a year? and there were like 6 different flagships at least over the course of the year.
Don't worry. You won't be able to buy the 8700k this year, your 7700k will be a few months older when the 8700k hits the stores in 2018.
xboxgamer969 barely a year to be precise so yah 7th gen user just got fucked hard by intel.
Not even last year like Jan this year. Not even 10 full months, and already a new CPU + Chipset. LMFAO.
+Noobish
nah
I was waiting for long time, my current cpu is i7-2700k . Over the months so many times I attempted to buy 7700k, now I feel my wait paid off. After few weeks of trying today I was be able to place an order for i7-8700k. Oh boy I am gonna enjoy it with my GTX 1080 SC. However, I need mother board and RAM. Hopefully within month my upgrade will be ready. This is a beast CPU, would last 5 more years for sure.
I'd love a 3930K or 3960X comparison with the 8700K, six core vs. six core. Just to see how performance has progressed beyond increased core count for the i5 and i7.
Wow, Intel can produce CPU's with more than 5% improvement between generations?
I'm shocked :O
Really enjoying the PC focused content, DF. Keep it up.
The real pizza boy You're really into copying Prince Dizzy. 😂
Who?
I love this meme
Love this meme
Did you copy and paste this post from another video?
I upgraded to Ryzen 7 1700x several months ago, and it totally changed my workflow from the 3770 I used to use. I'm good for a while
HUGE KUDOS to Richard Leadbetter!! All the work you put in for all those comparisons must have taken forever to compile. Thank you! Great video!
I have an OC 4790K and a 1080 GTX FTW, and $2500 ready to go to buy an 8700K processor (if I can find one!). But after watching the video, overclocking the 8700K does not seem to yield as much performance increase as simply adding 3000 MHz memory. So my question to Richard is: If I am only going to be gaming (think Ashes of the Singularity), should I just buy the 8700 instead of the 8700K?
Who's still running the i7 4790k and perfectly happy?
Rawjent Productions I may upgrade soon for the newest chipset features but the 4790k is still kicking ass. Great CPU
4790k is a beast
you ask it because you are not happy
I7 3770k over here, no issues with a 1080ti 👌👌
4770k living strong. I want to upgrade and build a new pc but intel/amd arent giving any justification.
bought an i7 7700k thinking i'd have a cheap upgrade path, i think ill keep it for a few years when it cant handle 60fps anymore or if I delve into the high refresh rate world
Dwyer Studio Me too, now I have a wall to climb and seeing that multi-core CPU is gonna be the norm soon as they further optimize it makes my 7700k a complete joke now.
that cpu will handle 60fps for a LONG time. 6 years easy
Hope you guys start redoing these benchmarks after the shit storm, I want to see how much performance I'm gonna be shitted out of come next week.
TheFoodnipple redo required!!! 5% - 30% drop.... Place your bets and buckle up for the class action lawsuit everybody!
Thanks for throwing the 3770K results in there. That's still the processor I'm rockin.
amd forces intel to sell performance for a reasonable price, consumers thank amd with buying intel....
In my opinion the 8700 is the better deal than the 8700K. 5 to maybe 10% performance increase depending on if you win the silicone lottery for £60 more and plus a liquid cooled solution which is like another 80-100 pounds or more to achieve 5ghz+ stable just isn't worth it. But hey, you do you; that's what's amazing about the PC - we have a ton of options.
Oh yeah i absolutely forgot if you do plan on buying a locked i7 8700 or i5 8400 you should definitely buy an after market air cooler (i recommend a cooler master hyper evo for £25) and some proper thermal paste because Intel's stock coolers and toothpaste are fucking shite.
It runs stable at around 65-70° max on a decent air cooler at 5.0 Ghz according to Tech Deals.
Oh nice i'll have to check that out.
Yeah I'm thinking about the 8700 too. It's only 65W tdp so you don't have to go all out on the cooling, and I like my PC's to be silent.
@Kvarnholmen Depends on what you're doing. If you're aiming for gaming only, yes prbly, though the 8600k could end up being the better choice. Either way I don't care too much.
I need more than 6 threads for my workloads.
Thanks so much for the comparison with older chips. This is what most reviewers totally ignore.
Huge fan of those weird hand gestures! Staples of Mr. Leadbetter.
Your results and those from Linustechtips are so different! Over at Linus CoffeeLake is not any better than Kabylake at gaming
because linus is incompetent and can't benchmark to save his life. i bet he benchmarked at 4k or some shit like that.
How about HardwareUnboxed? Their results are more similar to Linus's.
Exactly. HardwareUnboxed is the king of benchmarks.
gigar9000 Do not forget that LinusTechTips is an Intel fanboy and probably bought by Intel aswell. :)
I would buy it in 2030 when it going for ~80$ on eBay, as its too expensive for my cheap ass
Great video mate, can't wait for the 8600k review from you, two thumbs high up!!!
Well, I have a GTX 770 and an i5 4590 and I'm not planning on upgrading any time soon, new games work just fine after a little bit of config files and nvidia control panel magic, i can run new games 60fps with a mix of medium/high/ultra. It's a little better than console quality and I'm fine with it.
The cpu beast.
Thanks amd......
temannopellaria Well at least it's the most relevant CPU lineup that Intel has offered. Anyway I'm still gonna be enjoying with my 7700k but damn it was already a complete joke now.
They've known Ryzen was coming for a long time. It's not coincidence that one of their strongest releases in years came right after Ryzen
+ WarmSoftKitty No, CFL was planned to be released on Sept. 2018. Do you know why a giant corporation have to act faster than they originally planned ? When they're threatened by a competitior
WarmSoftKitty meanwhile amd been bitchslapping intel when it comes to value for the money. Everysales chart tells the same story. Amd be ryzen while intel be sinking.
WarmSoftKitty Amd sales be ryzen and intel sales been sinking. Your a idiot who has no reading comprehension. I never said amd has been outselling intel. I said percentage wise their sales have been going up meanwhile intel has been losing market share. Anybody can look this up and see what a idiot you are.
i watched a 8600k vs 1600, 8600k had double the CPU usage of the ryzen, but higher FPS. Is it really worth it when the Coffeelake CPU costs more, the z370 motherboard costs more, and its working very hard to achieve that FPS. when Ryzen CPU costs less, Ryzen motherboard costs less, and barely does any work to achieve a similar but inferior FPS. Doesn't that mean Intel CPUs will struggle to game if you have other programs open, or streaming and rendering? Ryzen costs less and the CPU has plenty of overhead for any other software you may choose to run at the same time.
Ryzen will be the best alternative for 95% of people, while the 8700K will make sense for the people that want the absolute best gaming computer no matter the performance/cost ratio, if they have a 1080Ti and a 144Hz monitor at least.
No it just means that AMD cpus aren't being used as effectively by the game. That extra FPS is also overhead.
ahah remember times when people said that about fx proccesors??? stop spreading bullshit information and budget boards will release in march
I with this cpu run everything I throw at it.
even in 2022, I still find it an excellent choice to play with.
Seen many and this one is the most complete review I seen, show what many of them are missing, like stock vs OC vs RAMspeed performance, both productivy and gaming. Only missing what would happen at 1440p and 4k, but we all know we need that free room for future games. Sad we still need more power to secure 144Hz since with all this new high refresh monitors is nice to keep the 100+ fps at all times.
i wonder how it goes vs a 5820k 6c 12t at same speed (4.5ghz)
It's a massive improvement, IPC is the same as Skylake and it can get up to 5Ghz.
that's what I have right now, at 4.5ghz. And wanna upgrade to 8700k, but it's not available anywhere.
Intel fanbois can shit on ryzen but they have to admit that without ryzen, intel wouldn't be pushing this beast of a cpu out.
Elfaia this CPU has been none since last year. I agree that if AMDs Ryzen had not performed as well as it did Intel could have waited till next year to release coffee lake
LOL They dont just create chips in a few months. coffee lake has been in the works for years. It was coming without Ryzen.
Slug Jones no it wasn't, we probably would have just gotten another refresh don't be stupid
Adolf Hitler for someone who like adolf you know intel is run by jews? Anyway if you said it was develop for years you're wrong its the same architecture as kabylake and skylake only a lil bit adjustment so no it doesn't need them years to develop something from an old architecture.
cooman gaming you underestimate what intel can do in such short notice, here let me tell you as an ex intel employee coffee lake were supposed to be the final quad cpu that intel offer, hexa core were supposed to be on cannon lake and ice lake is where octa core will be the norm, since ryzen release in February intel had to increase the core count and change the roadmap and hire like crazy because of this, "owhh but its impossible to create an architecture that fast bla bla bla" this is why you're not an engineer and trust me with that mindset no company would want to hire you~
As someone who has been exicted to finally build my own pc the last couple months, I am very happy that I waited for this, instead of buying into the Ryzen hype. Hate all you want, but I will stick to the better product period
This is the best review of i7 from the 8 that I watched, most reviewers only look average frames and this isn't a good picture on how good a processor is for gaming
Finally Intel is back thanks to Ryzen.
which is why you buy Ryzen and dont lick intel arse.
Still stupid that intel forces you to get a new motherboard for coffee lake while amd am4 socket will enjoy support till 2020
quangluu96 *TRIGGERED*
GamerNexus is saying that thermals are ok and he was running on 4.9 so stop trolling please
they dont force you to too anything
But I've had 8 cores and 16 threads since march for £300. Hmmmm... (great tech non the less but it feels like a panic response rather than a "leap")
EverythingMeh when you have a 6 core battling out with 8 core. Its a leap
not just battling...destroying. And to be clear, I'm in no position to upgrade to any brand's cpu at the moment, nor do I care who makes the better chip. Ryzen is a great product and definitely got intel off the couch, but lets not pretend AMD didn't just get spanked.
If by panic you mean pushed forwards a few months. Coffee Lake has been in development for over 18-24 months so i'd say hardly a response.
Your 1700 would be beaten by all four CPUs tested in this video.
Dex4Sure The ringbus design us the best design for cpus with 10 cores or less. This is why the i7 6950x at 4.4 demolishes a core i9 7900x at 4.6-4.7ghz. The ringbus is designed to run well on any application no matter the optimization. Essemtailly its designed to run well on good or bad optimization apps. This is why intel 6900k at 3.5ghz trashes a ryzen 7 1800x at 4ghz in games.
Really happy to see competition back in the CPU market.
Love DigitalFoundry reviews. What I miss for the cpu things is a CPU usage graph.
I'll hold on to my i5 6500 till death
i7 3930k lol
same here, i5 6500 at 4 ghz, it's still pretty strong
i5 6600 lol
How about in 2025?
i5 7400
Please do Witcher 3 PS4 pro patch 1.51. Thanks for all your work.
Still rocking my Devil's Canyon i7 and I'm perfectly happy with it.
Nice! Can't wait for the i7-8700HQ and i7-8500U for the laptop market!
Finally it's time to upgrade my I7 2600
i dont think so, still ok...
Only if you have high refresh monitor. 60 fps is no problem for the 2600
Back in days my 2600k worked @5GHz @1,5v but now its Not stable anymore :( It seems the Chip Shows some Degradation its time to Upgrade...
1.5V is burtal
fuck just bought z270e motherboard....not gonna buy another for a cpu !!
Why would you? You should buy the CPU, memory, and motherboard when you upgrade. Upgrading to new CPU every generation is just stupid and a waste of money.
You don't need it, the 7700K is doing just fine as you can see. Money is better spent on a more powerful GPU.
Great video, was very helpful to me. I'm just about to upgrade my i7 3770k, as I'm starting to see my cpu bottlenecking my GTX 980 TI. Especially in Ashes of the singularity, and Planet Coaster, so finally decided on this i7 8700k, as I mainly game on my pc. After this video, i'm still comfortable in my chioce:)
I'm excited that you can do a review of the i5-8600k and i3-8350k
Imagination is the best CPU in the world.
StraightupGamer Shame he won't stay in the slot though and ever since I connected the power supply(with great difficulty I might add) he has become unresponsive. Won't even post.
You can put your Pentium II in my Slot 1 any day of the week, sweetie
this is what makes scrolling down the comments worth it.
You are right they actually make CPU´s, but I had a bad experience with their GPU driver, so 2/10 would not recommend.
Not worth upgrading from my delidded 7700k. 1-5 fps difference
True but as games use more physical cores your 7700k is going to start to stutter.
CaptToilet anything under 100fps is unplayable.
capt....And when will that be? One thing I learned building Pc systems since 233MMX cpus.. The sky is falling proclamation is always a few years premature.
CaptToilet Gamedevs still will develop with 4 core cpu's in mind since they'll leave potential customers in the dust if they don't. Games will eventually be developed with only 6 or 8 cores in mind but it will be 3 - 5 years from now before they do.
Steffen kawa 60*
Got my MSI Z370 gaming pro carbon ordered, I'll be getting it in Tuesday. Now I'll hoping I'll be fast enough when Bol gets their 8700k's in.
All the analysis are great and full of details... Help us a lot deciding which device we can use for a specific job...
Witcher III on PS4 pro, patch 1.50, 1.51 please! :)
GTFO
Go watch it on VG TECH
Tube Omar DF do the best analysis and comparison, so wait it from DF :)
it's 2160c + improved texture filtering which means it is pretty much matching Horizon Zero Dawn patch. it's on the DF website.
Ziv Riger so its checkerboard dynamic resolution? Lol
big generational leap?? you are absolutely full of it !! is a 7700k with 2 more cores and runs very hot!!
isnt that ryzen too, wow u are really stupid
You can't really use the The division ingame benchmark, as it's not at all representative of gameplay values.
My i5 gets around 120 fps in the benchmark, but gets completely destroyed to the point of under 60fps in some scenes in game.
I can't wait for your testing of i5 8600k. I have high expectations for it being very close to i7 in gaming. I want to upgrade my i5 2500k but I'm not sure what to get. Great job btw, as usual
Lucien Bogoin Yeah with OC the chips are very similar to eachother in gaming.
Sheeeeeeeeit get on that Witcher 3 video DF..
GTFO
Major crimes? SHEEEEEIT
money laundering in west baltimore? sheeeeeeeeeit
I rather pay 50% less for a ryzen 5 1600 and overclock it.
isn't a 8400 faster and cheaper than a ryzen 1600?
Cinebench - ryzen 1600 (1139 points) I5 8400 ( 939 points ) ryzen 6core -12threads / I5 6core - 6threads, I go with Ryzen.. and i can overclock the ryzen with a B350 MB
An overclocked Ryzen 5 1600 will be equal to an i5-8400 in single-core and beat it in multi-core.
The Ryzen CPU also includes a much better stock cooler and a much longer lasting platform.
Wonderful review and comparison. I have 2600k and now it’s time to upgrade.
I'm moving up from the old 3770K so it's good to see the older chips compared here.
Don't worry the 12nm ryzen chips will once again whoop intel's coffee smeared arse
who cared look a this a 6core is beating a 8core cpu in all test even only cinebench is decent on 1800x and a 8700k OC can easy match goodluck getting a good oc ryzen chip
And they should. If they don't they just suck.
i hope they do. i want to switch to amd in 2019. but i won't if they don't do better than this. this is what i wanted ryzen 1 to be.
If I recall, I think Ryzen+ is out early next year on the 12nm or 10, forgot which and I think the main focus is on ipc performance and power consumption with Ryzen 2 out late next year on the 7nm, all in all, this is looking good for the cpu market.
Lol what a crap FANBOI comment. Each generation will be better than the next so when our next cpu comes out til beat ure cpu I have both platforms so this is a neutral statement.
Where is Witcher 3 PS Pro video?
GTFO
Witcher 3 is like 3 years old, move on
Ryuzaki Takada if DF makes a video then I can tell that you're gonna get salty
This guy is so into his benchmark that his glasses is tilted, LMAO... Decent review though. I'm thinking of upgrading next year and will certainly go with intel.
It's a little strange that Richard keeps talking about "overhead". With high refresh monitors (which any self respecting hardcore gamer should use) there is a tangible improvement on smoothness with framerates over 60 and even over 100 (with diminishing returns of course). So it's not only about having safe minimum FPS; the average FPS over 60-100 is also important.
We want a de-lid video! This sucker is too hot.
No, it's not. I'd agree with you on Skylake-X, but this one, no.
MadFinnTech it is hot go watch gamer nexus video he already delid the 8700k
You could mention these wouldn't even exist without AMD's comeback. But I don't expect you to mention that despite the performance leap. You are still better buying a nice cheap B350 motherboard, slap Ryzen in there, get the recommended fastest ram, nice air cooler, overclock to taste and you have the most cost-effective beast of a computer that can have a damn good go at being a workstation while serving you with every game set to come out for years to come.
Or you can pay a lot more for an Intel motherboard that will be obsolete next year probably and support building the Intel monopoly that will put it back as the only game in town. at which point all development in speed and cores will stop and you'll go back to getting 5-10% bumps every few years. Up to you though :)
Coffee Lake would have been released even without AMD's comeback. The most important thing is price point. Intel would have sold the 8700K for $600-700 if Ryzen wasn't on the market.
@OP
You don't really understand the microprocessor market or what it takes to design and manufacture new ones if you think this is all because of AMD. AMD has some influence yet, but not necessarily where you think nor how much.
Assuming you're an AMD fanboy based on such posting, such ignorance is overly typical.
It is because of AMD, coffee lake architecture cpu released before 2018 with a new mobo make the old ones obsolete , ryzen 2 will force into cannon lake as well
I mean nah, I think my 4790k paired with 1080ti is fine for a good while to come for 1440p
Maybe in a few years I'll check out whatever is on offer
I imagine these chips have been in development for a long time though, I'd imagine the only influence AMD had was on Intels pricing for this generation
Competition is good for both sides, fanboyism on either side is meh. I'm just excited we're starting to see interesting chips released again. Haven't been excited for anything on the cpu market since phenom ii or core2duo
Unless Intel has a time machine to send engineers back 18 months, then no, other than pricing, AMD really didn't impact this. If they did you wouldn't have a meager 16 PCIe lanes on the CPU and fucking dual channel memory.
Haha, i was gonna get i7-7700k to replace my old i7-950. Glad i waited for this. :D
Absolutely brilliant video. DigitalFoundry, you guys are always best-in-class, there's simply no argument to be had there. Great work. Richard, good to see you!
Hi Digital Foundry Team Please can you do a PS4 Pro Analysis of Witcher 3 with the new 1.50 update.
the video will come soon, they allready have an article about it on eurogamer, checkerboard 4k, better texture filtering, worse framerate than boost mode in short.
Hans Wurst Thanks for the reply!
ffs, no one plays that old single player games. add battlefield 1 multiplayer in which people are spending hundreds of hours. 64p maps easily destroys 7700k with drops to 70-ish fps. (inb4 its not hard to benchmark with spectator mode)
How do you know what people play? You think everyone just plays the stupid online shooters? Really?
bf1 is the reason I upgraded from my haswell i5. . . even at 4.7ghz I was getting constant 100% cpu usage in maps like amiens and st quentins scar and the stutter/frame drops were unbearable, slideshows most of the time. Now with my 3.8ghz r5 1600 I don't get any more stutters and now bf1 is smoother than ever. BTW I have 700+hrs played in bf1 and the i5 was a constant torture.
as a ivy bridge user coffee lake is the first new cpu gen i have felt the want to upgrade but i am not really punished yet for running my 3770k and 980ti my guess is 2 more gens is what this rig will survive.
You're work is always impressive. Could you review what settings are best and most taxing in VR? Even with a 1080ti you can't max everything out in project Cars 2
Yeah , why is there no pCARS 2 PC Graphical review from anyone good !?
Where’s the Witcher 3 4k on ps4pro video??
GTFO
I really want to see that to.
ps4 pro and 4 k?))) LOOOL ahahaha
I'm waiting for that video.
"Supplied"? I'm pretty sure you need to disclose sponsorship a little bit better than that.
just like Microsoft, Nintendo and PlayStation
Getting review samples isn't sponsorship
Hey Richard, I'm considering upgrading from my 4790k to the 8700k+DDR4. I was wondering what (if any) fps gains I would get at 4k res, as that's what i play at. I'm currently paired with a 1080ti. Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Have a good one :)
Amazing job on this review ! I could just feel your enthusiasm getting trough the screen ! First review I could watch from start to finish.