Taekwon-do I.T.F 15th Summer Camp 2011, Sparring Techniques and Sparring, Master Alexandris

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Instructor: Master Alexandris Vasilis 8th degree
    15th Open Summer Camp
    Taekwon-do I.T.F
    Plaka Litohorou, Katerini, Greece

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  • @4OR-Designs
    @4OR-Designs 12 років тому

    This should have a lot more "likes" in my opinion....The drill's are really amazing compared to what I have been taught. I learned A Whole Lot More for my studies in just that 8mins. O.O I'm not a beginner, I just comprehended a lot more from watching this video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Liquidcadmus
    @Liquidcadmus 7 років тому +3

    Master Alexandris is amazing, I wish I could attend one of his training camps someday.

  • @NXG_HQ
    @NXG_HQ 12 років тому

    Master Vasilis, this is an amazing team training video!
    Very encouraging!
    Michael Bateman

  •  11 років тому

    Great video! Interesting to see advanced hand technics in tkd, it starting became more like wako kickboxing, with better footwork. Master Alexandris good luck with your teaching!

  • @GameSteph
    @GameSteph 12 років тому

    awesome taekwondo love your masters teaching style too good hand techniques.

  • @EricEntertainment77
    @EricEntertainment77 3 роки тому

    I've seen good solid techniques with fast counters. Even the juniors did a very great job. Taekwon 🥊👊

  • @frmartinez87
    @frmartinez87 12 років тому

    this is a very good set of drills.. if you're looking to train for an ITF tournament this is very helpful.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    We are all still waiting for that video footage of your masterful skills old man...or should we expect it in the next life? Cause we can't wait forever to see your genius technique.

  • @bigboy789inches
    @bigboy789inches 10 років тому

    The Master in this video is AWESOME!!! speed power technique control. I hope when I am his age I am still training.

    • @hubertwier
      @hubertwier 10 років тому

      this is all about the diet - Greek food is the best I`ve ever tried :)

  • @nikolaipotapenkov8823
    @nikolaipotapenkov8823 5 років тому

    I don't like TKD...but I have to admired
    Guys fight like TIGERS.
    No.stupid or offensive comments.
    Greetings from Kudo..karate.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i actually went with AIMAA tkd for 3 yrs because they grappled and did fullcontact sparring,then i got more and more into bjj and judo and dropped striking due to knee injury.2 of my friends from my original beginners class are actually 7th degree masters in tkd now after 28 yrs training

  • @MrMejez
    @MrMejez 12 років тому

    In relation to sine wave I would like to pint out (as it was already said by Cutabrannos) that this principle exists across many systems. For example, look in Dynamic Karate by Masatoshi Nakayama or watch any technical video of karate. Notice the lowering the center of gravity on the execution of eg. gyaku tsuki. Principle is the same, in TKD is more pronounced, that's it. In fact if you watch any fight you can notice that fighters lower the center on strong punches.

  • @ririoncam3288
    @ririoncam3288 9 років тому

    Very good!great master

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    That is my point, we don't really know what would work from any martial art in a real situation beyond those times people have actually used certain techniques to effect to defend themselves in real life.

  •  4 роки тому

    Estão aprendendo a dar socos!

  • @bigboy789inches
    @bigboy789inches 10 років тому +7

    Some of the comments on this video are just amazingly stupid, it is so sad that some people will talk the most yet know nothing and mislead others. Just enjoy the video and the techniques and stop being keyboard warriors.

  • @Sepulvedas787
    @Sepulvedas787 9 років тому

    excelent work!!!

  • @demanyang9635
    @demanyang9635 6 років тому

    looks beautiful...that's it.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    chois ITF in ireland,they adhered rigidly to everything the general said,the word actaully came down from the national headquarters that i wasnt allowed do kickboxing and tkd together enough though the whole club could see it was really improving my sparring.It was a joke,some people in the club still wont speak to me today after 15 yrs later

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    what ye see in tournaments is a boxing cross,a reverse punch is done with the other hand at the hip in a walking stance ,both heels down,see what im saying about the arts fundamnetals being inapplicable.

  • @ivango2006
    @ivango2006 12 років тому +1

    [Rus] Лучше заниматься тхэквондо чем курить, пить алкоголь и принимать наркотики. Примите моё уважение.

  • @antoniodelfinsosa5910
    @antoniodelfinsosa5910 4 роки тому

    Muy bueno.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    7th dan under what organization?

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    we arent talking about earlly shotokan,contemporary shotokan has been stop start for decades,at least the 70s.

  • @Chatflex
    @Chatflex 12 років тому

    Come to jersey you will see im a black belt too

  • @ObohsMC
    @ObohsMC 11 років тому

    Yep.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i could make some tkd kicks work in mma or even thai matches,however,they only supplemented the boxing i picked up outside tkd,without that legs dont work reliably,any tkd lad who transitioned to full contact kickboxing show that over the decades.The conditioning in both styles is similar,the level of contact is similar,difference is in itf you CAN get disqualified for a KO .You can condition to peak level in a couple of months,it takes yrs to get good hands and timing needed for real fighting.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    well i started training in 1984,the entire ITF was contuous light contact officially for yrs before that,obviously thats sport,all sparring is sport,even mma.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    ya a ITF practitioner who is honest and uses common sense! YAY! Now hopefully you also have TKD history correct to and are not drinking the choi cult's kool aid!
    Great post! What rank did you get?

  • @eichjay5018
    @eichjay5018 10 років тому

    granpa master is soooo quick!!

  • @squirrel6687
    @squirrel6687 11 років тому

    He who does not climb to the mountains top...to see the entire view is impossible.
    With that being said, one must understand the art from first becoming a student, a don. Though I'm aspiring to cross the sands and begin my journey, I will offer this...These techniques teach timing and distance. By sparring other styles one will develop their OWN rhythm and style within themselves. If you haven't achieved don rank to see the self defense, I'd reserve my comments.

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    You sad the sine wave was pointless. I pointed out that as the sine wave utilizes gravity and body movement that you must consider those things pointless in useful technique as well.
    My actual point is that sine wave exists across all martial arts (or should) but that it seems peculiar to ITF to refer to it by that name. I have come across the concept of it before in other arts.

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    taekwon-doin
    Yes, ITF uses punches in sparring. It's WTF that is kicks only and as that is the one you see at the Olympics, that's all people see.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    very ,very few tkd guys crosstrain,many people just dont have the time.By the way traditional bjj is complete all by itself even without strikes,you just manage distance.A pure striker however cannot manage distance by its very nature.Thai boxing is almost complete minus the ground but the clinch dominance should mean no non wrestler could take you down.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i dont know where you giot that info,but there has never been an itf points competition,points by the way refer to stop/start comps,no tkd has ever really sparred that way,neither WTF or ITF,you will see some breakaways use it for kids,im talking chois ITF though not breakaways.

  • @harsharajlimbu5093
    @harsharajlimbu5093 6 років тому

    Nice

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i agree taekyon had limited contribution,the kicking motions outside karate only.Since neiter coi nor any senior master of TE original KTA had any kung fu,its hard to see where that came from .Of course taekyon itself may have had chinese influences centuries before that

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    nobody videod themselves in those days,now everyone does

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    its changing a bit now after chois death and in easten europe they always been crosstraining,its why poland for eg and russia have always been the best fighters

  • @akosigundam
    @akosigundam 12 років тому

    Taekwondo-ka using punches in sparring? Not bad!

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    lyoto is an excellent kickboxer ,he punches and kicks ,thats kickboxing,but not in the orthodox way.Hes been full contact sparring for a decade in prep for mma,he also is a very good grappler and adequate wrestler,those skills allow a good striker to flourish.Anderson uses virtually all thaiboxing,petits uses kickboxing and tkd kicks but his wrestling allows him to do so.Chuck was a very average fighter in point fighting comps.He doesnt even figure in any conversation about fighting.

  • @itftaekwondo8699
    @itftaekwondo8699 9 років тому

    good

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    What? That has nothing to do with what i said about the sine wave.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    it exists in no other system because gen choi just made it up with some influence from taekyon(where it had no practical purpose either) to distinguish it from karate(lowering hips on a punch isnt sine wave,sine wave is down up and down again),it has no practical purpose in fact it wasts a lot of time getting it correct.YOURE MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SINE WAVE IS.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    ITF HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONTINUOUS sparring,it looks virtually nothing like karate kumite .In practise the contact is the same as the WTF but excessive head punch contact is often penalised,but never kicks(in theory its light contact)I'll pick the style that guards the head and punches it,thats what happens in real fights

  • @dragonbalzy
    @dragonbalzy 12 років тому

    Actually training via sine wave is supposed to teach you how to use your body weight in your strikes. As far as I know every ITF practitioner including myself uses our body mass in our strikes. So I think sine wave is practical. But that's just my opinion based on my experience. I'm not an expert on ITF tkd like you.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    Suuuuure...you keep telling yourself that. Its okay I believe you.....*pats you on the back*

  • @anthonymeynet-lecoachbienv6544
    @anthonymeynet-lecoachbienv6544 3 роки тому

    Super vidéo🥋👊🏻
    Ma chaine parle aussi du Taewon-do ITF.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    What arts have you come across and use the sine wave? And just what do you mean by utilizing gravity and body movement? What claim are you trying to make? I could say a lot of martial arts utilize gravity and body movement but it doesnt mean its the sine wave or anything close to what ITF schools do. No ITF fighters ever use the sine wave in sparring. not even in this video.

  • @kyhstargate
    @kyhstargate 11 років тому +1

    대단하다~ 나이도 있으신거 같은데 ... 날라다니네~

    • @Liquidcadmus
      @Liquidcadmus 7 років тому +1

      예, 그는 매우 숙련되어 있습니다.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i actually was forced to leave my itf school because i was caught grappling and kickboxing in other clubs,would ye believe that,when they told me i had to choose ,i knew then i had to leave.Within a year of kickboxing i was a better sparrer than any of my former assocaition in comps but they now claimed i was only a fighter,not a martial artist because i didnt do patterns,great logic eh?I was a first degree at 14 yrs old but only left at 25 and never graded for 2nd,no interest in belts.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    There is WTF footwork in the UFC. You should have watched the last prelims.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    I am not an ITF expert but I am a Taekwondo expert and martial arts expert in general and understand basic physics. The sine wave makes no sense and goes against the laws of physics. It does not work. Using hip motion does work but ITF thinks bouncing up and down makes the strike harder but its impossible. Torquing the hip is what gives power and pivoting. ITF used to be like that but changed. Also no one uses a sine wave in sparring ever...because its pointless.

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    So all martial arts that use gravity to deliver more power are false?
    So all martial arts that use the knee spring, that is bending the knee before pushing off, are false?
    These things are sine wave. Just because the sine wave is exaggerated for patterns does not make it idiotic.
    Sine wave is used in sparring too or the bouts would look robotic.

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    tenets, not tenants, a silly mistake I've made myself.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    he was the of leader of the commitee that proposed the name tkd and united most of the kwans,then started the KTA which was originally ITF styleprior to the ITF organisation,chang hon patterns and head punch sparring.After the split south korean tkd changed to current WTF style.Without head punches ,any sparring is a joke,totally unrealistic.It doesnt matter what level the athletes are ,it doesnt represent anything that happens in self defense

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    No he wasnt. ITF sparring does not represent anything that happens ins elf defense. Neither does the sine wave. KTA originall did have head punching, only the sport aspect of the olympics it was taken out later but it still does not mean WTF style sparring is worthless.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    KTA did not do Choi's forms!! Research it!! The 10 kwons all had their OWN forms and some of it was Karate forms and chinese forms. The Pal Gae forms were the first unified KTA forms sponsered by the WTF. Then came the Tae Guks later. the Choi Tuls were never accepted that is why he LEFT Korea and started your canadian ITF style of Taekwondo and started claiming he is the sole creator of TKD. Its absolutely stupid.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    they KO lads in tkd matches where nobody defends anything,no guard at all,hands by side.Any tkd lad with sucess in mma is due to good hands and wrestling to back up their legs ,without tkd is fucked,its a totally inadequate style by itself.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    take a look at the core movements in kung fu,now take a look at tkd,no similarity,one is soft,circular,flowing,the other hard,linear.Whether choi knew taekyon doesnt matter,theres very little in tkd,maybe a few kicks

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    Ya you keep telling yourself that bud....

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    you shouldnt be practising elaborate techs anywhere,bag or otherwise,only practise whats achievable in a fight,the fight dictates the training in good styles.Randy,chuck and fedor were very competent in orthodox boxing by the way then adapted that skill to the rules of mma where short combos work best due to takedown risk.

  • @quintaldagaliza
    @quintaldagaliza 8 років тому

    τέλειο. αγκαλιές Βραζιλία

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    it doesnt have any basic boxing either ,punching totally changes the way you fight,youll find that someone like machida is a progidy,there hasnt been a single other trad karate man in 20 yrs of mma,so its not down to the style.I am reacting v tkd ,its always been trained the same way,bunch of patterns and fundamental techs that never work and a bit of pussified dancing around for sparring.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i was with the itf for 14 yrs,12 under the sine wave method,its a complete waste of effort and time.Even if it increased power,youd never have time to execute it.You will never see anyone spar with it,its impossible

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    really,kyokushin has no back kick then,an art his father taught him since he was 6 yrs old.That vid is rogan showing GSP how he does it,not him learning it for the first time.Petits could want to be a tkd grandmaster,doesnt mean hes successfull because of a few flash kicks.There has only ever been 1 trad stylist that consistently wins using his art,thats machida and thats in 20 yrs of mma outside brazil

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i know its unique ,its also useless for real combat,even more so than ITF,both have exactly the same kicks so obviously the style that also allows head punching is mor applicable to a fight.If anyone who came from tkd into mma had done kickboxing instead of tkd they would be twice as good as they are now,its just logic.

  • @maxxfiori90
    @maxxfiori90 12 років тому

    quante cinture nere

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    Probably the best fighters in ITF, but not in all of Taekwondo. ITF is way too cult-like and arrogant. Barely ever to WTF Kukkiwon guys boast about how they have the true TKD or are better. Usually we are open minded and like to learn stuff.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    using weight isnt the same as bobbing up and down unecessarily,you have no time for that and cannot be used practically,thats pretty obvious to anyone who has trained in the ITF for years

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    hes effective due to athleticism and good timing due to yrs of sparring,if you have that and spar full conatct mma rules enough you can make a lot work,its not tkd though,tkd is the techs you see in its patterns ,the WTF sparring shows only kicks and itf is poor kickboxing,neither use the techs of tkd and both would be better if they only sparred ,the art itself is useless in both cases.

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    It is very convenient for you not to have any video footage to back up your bogus claims...

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    theyve mastered them in very limited light contact sparring and karate kata,not in an mma fight v an elite combat athlete,in other words ,they havent mastered them.GSP hasnt trained in karate for over a decade,kyokushin was his first style as a kid.The only TKD youll ever see in mma is lads who were originally tkd but have left it behind yrs ago to take up kickboxing/thai and now mma.Fundamentals are the techs in patterns ,there are no tkd fundamentals even in the sparring outside the kicks .

  • @OneSHOtNEW
    @OneSHOtNEW 12 років тому

    these guys are lazy in their kick and their posture the 8th dan shows alot of form in his sharpness, his technique is he really stands out. being a black belt you should be able to do a turning kick/(round house) easy with a lot of sharpness and power. remember what you do in training effects what you do out there and never drop your guard.....NEVER......you keep dropping it now you'll always be dropping it.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    nothing prearranged and done solo can ever teach timing,timing refers to you interacting with the opponent.Since the techs are entirely diiferent to anything in sparring or a fight theyre useless practise and interfere with effective tech is you spend much time on them

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    No the WTF is not really a disgrace for sparring. That is simple a biased opinion carried over from your ITF cult days. WTF sparring is full contact, continuous with knocks allowed. The footwork WTF styles have come up with have even transitioned into MMA and been very effective. While WTF limits punching abilities if trained too much it is not actually a disgrace and is an alympic sport with olympian level athelets. And Choi is not the founder or real TKD he is a destractor

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    Video yourself now! You should have something left even if you are old! Dont make excuses. That guy Josh has brought up many things that you shoudl research instead of acting like you know everything. Also who cares if I havnt had a lot of boxing practice I know for a fact my punches are very crisp and I have even taken boxing lessons and more. Badmouthing Kukkiw-TKD does not benefit you nor does it speak of the truth.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    i did itf tkd ,you do WTF tkd,both styles are very poor methods.The sine wave isnt applied outside patterns and destruction because it cant be,so it will never have any effect on how the art might be applied.We all know what real fights look like due to the existance of vale tudo,most guys looked untrained even after yrs of training in traditional arts.Tkd wasnt created in the 50s,it was just shotokan repackaged with maybe a bit of taekyon thrown in

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    You had too much brain washing from your ITF days. Choi was a detractor and created the ITF and seperated from the KTA. The KTA then fully supported the Kukkiwon and WTF tournaments. Look up history its easy to research. You can even read the minutes of the KTA meetings that discuss what Choi did. Choi did not create TKD he just made some forms no one accepted.
    If you hate ITF somuch stop mindlessly supporting it. Also Kukkiwon TKD uses hands a lot in the martial art aspect.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    the full contact aspect of WTF is totally negated by the lack of head punches,theres actually very little power in most kicks because they focus on speed scoring for points.Theres no WTF footwork in MMA ,theres no WTF in MMA at all,its considered a joke by real fighters and is the number 1 mcdojo style in america,full of little kids with black belts and adults with zero ability.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    to be honest i couldnt be sure about the history,my main point is OF ALL tkd,wtf is hands down the worst.

  • @Catubrannos
    @Catubrannos 12 років тому

    Show me an ITF sparring competition that seeks to break the bones of the competitors?
    Stop talking hogwash, TKD sparring is a martial sport, there are no leg grabs, no attacks to the groin or joints or spine, no strikes to the eyes, pretty standard fare for martial arts in general.
    Unless you're engaged in illegal fighting, with no rules, then your style (whatever that is) is no different and has its own set of limitations.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    nope,they didnt fight like that because it doesnt work,it never worked so why waste the vast amount of time that many tkd orgs do on it,ITF in particular.Traditional moves are meant to be interpreteted literally or else the whole style is useless,a decent art would only practise what works,throw out the rest

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    lad,i never said they dont teach head punches,all arts teach that but if you dont spar with them the teaching is useless.Its a pity ive no video of my kickboxing fights,its 15 yrs ago since i retired from the ring,judging from your vids youve vert little training in boxing,pretty good legs but weak hand compared to boxers and good kickboxers.Any good kickboxer will look incredible on a bag,in the ring theyll be usually way worse unless at the elite level.

  • @harmonnomrah2073
    @harmonnomrah2073 11 років тому

    ITF and WTF tkd are good martial arts ITF has the same kicks as WTF so why do people go crazy about the 2 styles WTF practitioners in a street fight wouldn't use a 720 hook kick they would fight like a ITF practitioner both styles a effective period

    • @Liquidcadmus
      @Liquidcadmus 7 років тому +1

      not really, ive practiced both styles. they are REALLY different.

    • @CameronCanFLY
      @CameronCanFLY 3 роки тому

      @@Liquidcadmus what are some of the differences in training and how you think they would street fight?

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    the WTF is an even worse joke than tkd in terms of practicality,the sparring is a disgrace its so far removed from real combat,at least in ITF a good hard sparring club will look like kickboxing,hands are the mose accesible tool in real fights.The reason WTF doesnt claim to be the real TKD is because they arent,they were created just to seperate them from ITF 7 yrs after the ITF was founded.I think the ITF is useless as an combat art in general but it is the real tkd since choi was the founder

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    This isnt real ITF, because if it was they would be using the sine wave!!!! :-) oh wait you NEVER use the sine wave in realistic fighting its just a made up concept to try and be unique but looks stupid and has no combat purpose. So no ITF ever uses sine wave when sparring. ever.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    so he didnt learn jack all in his school then,you only learn fromt he sparring,the rest is rubbish in all tkd.Lad ,the issue with all these useless arts like tkd is their training method,not the techs per se ,which are found in many styles,if tkd sparred mma style ,the students would be good fighters,but what they do would not feature any significant tkd moves bar a few kicks

  • @MaharlikaAWA
    @MaharlikaAWA 12 років тому

    No it hasnt....it was always point contact sport sparring at tournaments. Recently they let continuous sparring in. You are seriously a cult member.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    even an average boxer looks incredible on a bag,you look average on a bag.By the way you should take lessons,theres nothing crisp about yout your punching,even on an inanimate object.

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    nobody created tkd ,its shotokan karate mixed with some taekyon kicks.The KTA was Gen chois style,his patterns(the entire ITF accepted them),after that it became this WTF rubbish.I dont support the ITF but WTF is worse terms of effectiveness,an outright joke

  • @scarred10
    @scarred10 12 років тому

    itf sparring can look exactly like kickboxing when the schools/refs allow it,youll see that in eastern europe,rthats pretty represeantative of what goes on outside the clinch in a real fight.The sine wave is a joke,no application,only hard contact ITF sparring has any merit whatsoeve,r the rest of the art is useless.Everyting ,including the sparring in WTF is useless.

  • @АлексейСулима-е4ь
    @АлексейСулима-е4ь 11 років тому

    It was so nice ITF started to use hands, but now this stupid rulles about only two punches made taekwon-do useless to compare with hard styles.