UPDATE: As many have pointed, yes, of course, magnesium alloy is a metal and is not plastic. I was trying to explain that these bodies have both plastic AND mag alloy, and they feel a bit on the flimsy side.
No explanation needed🤦🏻 You even emphasised it almost ridiculously with an beautiful artistic brake!? Plastic- - - yy 😅 And THANK YOU. You made the decision soo easy! (Wearing glasses by the way🤓)
I have two X-T20 but I wish I've bought X-E3 instead 1) 30 sec exposure without external remote 2) Comfortable Back button focusing 3) AF point selection joy stick.
On the E3, you can combine gestures with focus point selection: big, fast swipe -> gesture; slow, methodical swipe -> focus point. Works quite well in my test, though I personally opted for the T20 because I'd miss the flip screen.
Exactly, same as the X-T20 is "styled" like an SLR. Those definitions work for me as it give me an idea of the layout of where the viewfinder is (and where my nose winds up, next to the screen or on the screen.... lol)
I know it's been a while since this video came out, but your videos have been so helpful and informative after I discovered your channel. The eye candy delivered in each video has got me hooked! You deserve each and every subscriber plus many more. Please keep making content and I hope everything is well!
I’ve only used the xt20, but it’s been my only digital camera . And it’s great, zero complaints. Fro, what I hear on the Fuji forums, the new stuff is facing some serious QA issues.
My first video of yours. I really liked it. The truth is, most of us like a camera for a mix of reasons; some major, some minor, just as you cover in this video. So, for me, hearing your big reasons and nit picky reasons for liking/disliking what features are there/not there can help push a decision one way or another. Adding the little nits makes the reasoning more complete in my opinion. I switched from Nikon full frame kit to Fuji XT-20 kit in 2017 and have loved it. But Back Button Focus is a HUGE deal for me. On the XT-20, set the front M-C-S focus mode switch to M, and the AF-L button on the back, under your right thumb is now magically a Back Button Focus. I would have never bought the XT-20 without usable BBF. It isn't as fully "fleshed out" as the BBF on my D750 was, but I use this as my focus in all situations on my XT-20, except in macro work.
HEY!!!! Andrew....I wanted you to know, your the only one who could convince me that maybe there’s something ok about crop sensors. I can tell you have access to medium format as well as full frame. I respect your thoughts. We like shooting very similar things (old small towns/portraits/mountain settings). My dog passed away a couple months ago and we traveled to colorado to spread her ashes in her favorite place. I watched your content the entire trip (12 days). It brought me some joy during a doubly difficult time (Pandemic and everything) You have a great attitude and solid knowledge. THANK YOU SIR!!! Keep posting and keep growing! Michael Neumann - One World Productions Chicago.
I love the X-e3 shape and being the smallest, but the X-T20 wins for me too, because of the popup flash (great for fills) and the flippy LCD for "waist" level street photos. Now the next big question is "Is it worth the extra $$ to go for the X-T30?". The other question, which is more my own situation, do I swap my X-PRO2 for an X-T20/30 as the backup to my primary camera, which is an X-T3? What would you do? 1) Keep the X-PRO2 with its hybrid VF 2) Get the X-T20 smaller, with flippy LCD and flash 3) Get the the X-E3 - being the smallest X camera with interchangeable lens 4) Get the X-T30 as it more closely matches the X-T3 Over to you...
#4. :) I love the increased number of phase detcrion points and video capability. #2 would be my second choic. But my needs may be different than yours.
While I was watching it I thought it was obvious you meant the Magnesium alloy was really thin and 'plasticky' sounding, not that it was plastic... what is it people are having trouble with? Is it me, or does the X-T20 shutter sound like (my old) OM10 film camera?
I had both of these, could not get along with the X-T20. It seemed too small for my hands. The X-E3 is even smaller, but the rangefinder-like layout (with the add-on grip) fit like a glove, and it replaced my X-100T. I think it was because I'm left-eyed, and the centered viewfinder of the X-T20 just didn't leave enough room to work the rear controls.
The bluetooth connection is a deal breaker for X-E3. It allows automatic image transfer from your camera to your phone, just right after your shot. The photos are already in my phone's album usually when I take my phone out.
I owned the X-E2 and was planing to upgrade to the X-E3. After reading the specs I decided to skip the X-E3 and go for my "always wanted to have" X-Pro2. The X-E3 is not a bad camera but Fujifilms decision to make the the X-E3 even smaller then the X-E2 plus getting rid of the D-Pad confirmed my decision.
Hi Andrew, good video. I'm also a eyeglasses wearer, and I understood the issue with the presence sensor on the EVF. Besides that, is the smaller size of the EVF (in comparison with X-T2) an issue in your opinion? Could you see the image entirely and comfortably?
I've had the XE3 for a few months now. Tried the XT20 in store because I missed the flip screen, nope, really could care less, the ergonomics on the XT20 compared to XE3 were a nightmare. I went in thinking I REALLY would prefer the XT20 and I made a mistake and maybe, you know, sell the other and buy the "right one." I was totally wrong. Sure, the flip screen is nice, but not enough. The XE3 feels way better in hand, and I have the means that I could easily have sold it and bought the XT20 or hell even the XT2. My gut instinct was right. I shoot street, so if landscape is your thing, the XT20 (or XT2) maybe your best bet.
I do prefer the ergonomics of the XE3 also, but only just slightly more. I can see how someone, especially a street photographer, could prefer it over the x-t20
Interesting. I had almost the exact opposite experience haha. I think I just prefer having more outward grip on the body itself. You're totally right about shooting street. Did you ever try the X100F? I think if I did a ton of street photography I might use that.
I am left eye dominant and use back button focus so should be gravitating to the XE3, yet here I am sitting with my X-T20 and its DPAD in front of me. Happy as can be!
Really helpful review. Deciding which camera to get as a lightweight carry around. Currently use professional Nikon DSLR's but want something lighter for casual use. The details provided in the video are helpful to know especially being an sometimes eyeglass wearer. The silly reasons are ok by me, shutter sounds and signatures, if it rocks your socks all the better!
Hey Andrew, very interesting review. Looking from London your 'not very special weather' looks pretty great! I rented an XT-10 a couple of times as a backup to my XT-1 when I was doing some gig photography. I found I just couldn't get used to the smaller body size. Probably if I was using two cameras the same size it would have been ok, but switching between the two didn't work for me. My solution came in the XT-2 making the XT-1 the backup, and I wouldn't dismiss that option for anyone in need of a backup. The XT-1 is still a great camera and you can pick a used one up for a very reasonable price. I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and best wishes for the new year!
There is a 3rd party eye cup for the X-T20. Hit me up if you want the link or you can google it. I am seriously thinking about picking one up. In bright sunlight, this would really help.
Their cameras are exceptionally great, but isn't there a single UI designer in that company? There is like 5 different font styles in the second menu at 3:48 XD
Yeah, bit in the past now, but still very useful for how to breakdown a comparison of two camera bodies, plus - of course ! - some lovely shots of the desert ! Thanks.
So the military exchange has the xt20 in a bundle that includes an extended grip, memory card, the xc 16-50 variable aperture AND a 50-230 variable aperture lens for 897(tax free too). I think I was leaning more towards an XE3 with the 18-55mm kit and then pick up a 27mm pancake. The xc lenses dont sell for much but with selling my d3300 and lenses I can come into the kit I described for basically 1000 dollars and some change. Does that make the xt a no brainer, or is the size difference THAT significant, from what I can tell, both cameras with a pancake would go into a messenger bag or coat pocket half way easily enough.
Thank you very much for your pragmatic review. I appreciated the features you evaluated on both cameras. For me personally you hit the points I am interested in. X-t20 it is.
Thanks for putting this video together. You make great points for X-T20 over X-E3. I personally went from X-E3 for sure to I just bought an X-T20. It's amazing how the shutters can mechanically sound so different even though both cameras are supposed to have the same sensor and processor.
It's the identical sensor as the x-t2 which I've found to do very well in low light. Not quite as good as some of the recent full frame sensors, but it will hang with any from previous years
@@AndrewGoodCamera recently I was robbed. They took all my gear. I had a Nikon 7100 and the highest ISO I can support was 800. No more, because I hate the noise. So right now I'm looking for on Fuji something like that or better.
That is heartbreaking. :( I have found that the x-t2 is good at 1600 and usable at 3200. However, Fuji has this weird thing where it's actually a stop darker than other brands. So you may get one extra stop iso than what you are used to with the 7100.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Thank you! I'll keep in mind! I meet your channel looking for answers for film rolls. I love analog to, so I've been following back then. Thanks for all!
I had an X-T20 for a few weeks before giving it to My ex and instead ordering an X-T2. Why? - you would ask Me. Because after a few years with the excellent (despite a few shortcomings) Sony A7r, the X-T20 felt a bit like a very cute toy. The size may be one thing (isn't a small size supposed to be a good thing? Apparently, not always), but I am sure there was more: it didn't feel professional enough. I can't quite explain it, but somehow these manufacturers do manage to make entry-level cameras appear entry-level next to their [semi-]professional brethren, despite a number of distinct advantages the X-T20 held over the X-T2, such as the touchscreen and the touch-to-focus feature, the pop-up flash (yes, the industry wants you to believe it is a useless gimmick for serious photographers, but the reality is having one is better than having none, and if you diffuse its effect somewhat with something like a piece of paper or bounce it against a low white ceiling or a reflector / styrofoam sheet, or use it as a fill flash in street photography, in many cases it will contribute to a better output, given the subject isn't far. Remember, under the reign of kings of stagnancy (i.e., Canon / Nikon), the industry had you believe mirrorless systems were a joke and articulating screens were for the uninitiated, until Sony (and Fuji, and Panasonic and Olympus to a lesser extent) proved Canon / Nikon wrong, compelling these two dinosaurs to adapt to the maturing market. The X-T2 felt much better in My hands than the X-T20. Its larger and at least ostensibly better quality viewfinder and the liveview screen (I don't know what it is - superior screen technologies or some sort of an optical illusion?) matched the quality of Sony A7r's, if not exceeded it by a hair. It is a shame the X-T2's beautiful display is not touch-sensitive. I also prefer the 3-axis tilt of the X-T2's display: it isn't quite perfect, but certainly handy for portraiture or architectural photography. You see, on paper the X-T2 and the X-T20 appear to have the same display, but in reality (excepting lack of touch-sensitivity in the X-T2!), the X-T2's display appears distinctly more professional - sharper, more vibrant, less washed-out... Same with the viewfinder and thus the whole shooting experience. Another observation: while the DPreview image quality comparison shows the two (if I recall correctly) to render identical quality images under identical conditions, somehow in My experience, the X-T2 appeared to impress more with its output. Whether it was indeed so - or just appeared to be, owing to the X-T2's more professional handling and the better liveview and viewfinder rendition - I do not know (have to test them side by side with identical lenses to find it out). Either way, that's the impression using both the camera imparted on Me. I recall a very similar experience using the Canon EOS 40D after about a year with the 350D back in 2006-2007: in a year time with the latter I hadn't managed to produce an image to be proud of. Days after acquiring the 40D I managed to outdo Myself during My first book cover shoot. [Semi-]Professional equipment has an uncanny way of inspiring the photographer that their entry-level brethren simply lack, even if the image quality achievable is roughly on par. That said, I also will add (and contradict Myself in doing so) that the 5D Mark II I acquired a couple of years later, despite its larger sensor and better resolution did not particularly impress, though the mirrorless Sony and the Fuji (and even the Samsung NX300 I procured for the girlfriend second-hand, a week ago for as mere €135 for the body) did very much! What's also remarkable - is that the X-A5 (a Bayer sensor Fuji) I bought for the ex, then returned and gave her the X-T20, took such horrible images that I was left suspecting it was an interchangeable 1/2.7" sensor camera. The imagines on its display were terrible, and looked no better imported into the computer! I am suspecting, Fuji has some sort of a fake sensor with only a tiny portion of its APS-C surface actually collecting light. Perhaps to showcase strong suits of the X-Trans sensor, they hamper X-A -series sensors and dumb down processor algorithms, because none of the APS-C (or even Micro Four Thirds) cameras I have experience shooting, produced such insufferable rubbish! I'm talking noise and extreme lack of detail phone cameras back in the first couple of years of the millennium produced! My findings contradict the DPreview image quality tests to a iota. Have you ever shot with the X-A5? Back to the topic, I think if the X-E3 had the quality of the X-T2's display, I'd keep it. However, the lack of an articulating screen (at least, it's touch!) and its small viewfinder are substantial compromises. I like the X-E3 design, but its lack of screen articulation is off-putting. Now, imagine a camera (today, not in 5 years!) with a 40MP+ for APS-C (or 70MP+ for Full-Frame, or a 100MP+ Medium-format) BSI X-Trans or Sony sensor, a fully articulating touchscreen (that also flips 180 degrees for self-portraits, or a detachable magnetic one), a small integrated bounce-able flash to complement its hotshoe, obviously no AA filter (no camera has to have it!), 7+ stops of in-body image-stabilisation and Pixel Shift, 15+ stops of dynamic range, medium- and small-RAW output options (maybe even user-definable) along with full-res RAWs (all losslessly compressed, through implementation of vastly superior to current compression algorithms), in roughly the size- and form factor of the X-E3, but sporting a twice larger viewfinder! $1.000 for the APS-C one, $1800 for the full-frame and $3.000 for the Medium-Format one (the size of the X-Pro2)! Those would be cameras to beat right now; they'd put the likes of Sony's flagships to shame, not to mention Canon / Nikon... Excuse My long rant and the overly-fantastical conclusion of My post.
I can't go back to a fixed screen... have had it since D5300, tried cameras without it...really messed up my shooting style. need it for street and landscape. Will stick with XT ** series unless an XE4 comes out with tilt.
So what does"blue tooth" in the camera allow you to do with it? Can you upload pictures directly from the camera to Google photos or icloud without first transferring them to your phone or computer?
@@xamuth AF joystick! I also really like the rangefinder styling with the EVF on the far side. I had the opportunity to trade my Canon 6D for an X-T20, but I kept the Canon and still have it today. There was something about the T20 that I just didn't care for. Again I picked the X100F over all of them and really, really like having a camera with a fixed lens. So much so that my travel bag has the X100F and a GA645i I picked up a few months ago.
I have an XT20 and don't miss the swivel screen at all. I use my excellent Pixel 2 XL if I ever want to vlog, not that I do much vlogging. I prefer to hold a smaller device for vlogs, Not a biggie at all!
Two things would make me buy the next XE...A decent eyecup that could be replaced with a third party brand and a flip screen...I would want the keypad back too.....I just prefer a keypad plus I've never seen a joystick maintain the reliability of a keypad through usage...
I agree...I'm kind of getting back into Olympus after acquiring a used EM1 and I'm loving it..but when my XPRO1 starts going I'll probably upgrade to the XT-20!...That flip screen does make a difference.
good choice: flip screen is a must have; and shutter sound :) - But I guess X-E1 shuttersound is more horrible than that X-E3! What's the X-T20 shuttersound compared to X-T2? you own both, I just the latter!
Seeing you have the X-T2 as a main camera, it's no big surprise. I have the Pro 2 and the E3 combo, and I love it! Small but key differences no doubt, and i do kind of miss out on the non-flip screen on either model, but it's not important for me :)
I just can't deal with the Fuji white balance, and greens. But I do like to whip around my X-E2s on black and white. The weight is nice. Also I hope that the have fixed the on/off switch from the X-E2s. Mine turns itself on ALL the time against my jacket, or elbow, or strap. I am considering taking a file to the switch to shave it down flush to the body.
xe3 has better af than xt20 but the fixed lcd was a terrible idea :\ But both (and not only fuji cameras) have 1.04M dot LCD, I wish everyone would finally make it at least 1.2 as a standard these days...
Hey D&A (DNA ?!?), I recently bought the XT20 along with the 18-55 Fuji lens. I haven't used them much yet, as I am still in 'RTFM' mode. I hope I'll be as happy with my combo as you seem to be with yours. Hope to see you doing more with the XT20 sometime. Love the location !!! Cheers !
I never rtfm. Gets me into trouble when I review gear, regularly. ;) Definitely more x-t20 videos. I seem to be grabbing it more often than x-t2 these days.
Thx for the response. I appreciate that you take the time ! I do have to rely deeply on the manual, because I am not pro and have much less time to go out and shoot. Above that, the weather here in Belgium isn't always that great... I am used to my 80D, but I think I'll need some more time before i can confidently take the Fuji out for a spin. I must say that I am also quite surprised by the different ways people go to the XT20 or leave it... We both like it because of the size (right?!) and the person I got mine from sold it because his hands were too big (he now owns a XT2). I also can't wait to try out the film simulations. I always shot Fuji in the film era (Canon Eos 650). Have a nice rest of the weekend !!
I bought an xt1 and returned and finally got the xt20.... my main reason was that flip out screen it is so helpful for landscape, inside canyons in awkward angles... though i mentioned xt1 the point is to emphasize on flip out screen feature.
Entertaining, yet so informative. I like your style. Thanks for this, I'm just about to place my order for the X-T20 and you've just given me that extra confidence boost.
Just got an X-T20. I am have a major problem with the palm of my hand turning on the Menu button when I pick up the camera. Driving me nuts Any soluition?
The pad of my thumb puts pressure on the camera (leverage) to pick it up and to twist the zoom, that presses the button. I returned it and got a X-T2 (graphite) don't like the size as much but there is room for my thumb. I like the other "upgrades" and the price was great. Still easier to carry than either of my Nikons (D500 & D850) Each tool will have it's place.
I'm a tad slow but just got an x-t20 after using the x-e2 for quite a while. I have to agree with you about the shutter sound; seems crazy but it's true how good it sounds by comparison. :)
Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend the X-E3 for someone who looks at the EVF with the lef eye? This is my case and I wonder if having the EVF in the middle would be better for me. Anyway thanks for any reply
Hi! Great video! Thanks! Wanted to ask something about the X-T20; is that possible to disable the touch screen for the focus, but still it will keep it enabled to switch the pics while I review them? (like on smartphone) Thanks!!!
I need some really great advice right now, I have a Canon 5D4 + 24-70 f/2.8 which I bought for paid wedding assignments & short film making jobs. Due to some reasons I have left the photography job and the gear is sitting in my almirah collecting dust. I don't think I need that expensive gear now and is only blocking money. But still I have a lot of passion for photography and want to make drama short films. I need advice on should I sell my current gear and buy a relatively cheaper gear like sony or fuji mirrorless?
Denae & Andrew I make a project "1 second a day" (it is often 2-5 seconds a say:)). I take videos at home and outside. I use now 23mm f2, 23mm f1, 4 and 56mm f1, 2. What I don't like about them, that I can not keep it calm enough. I think, image stabilization would be good for that.
Beautiful video. We don't use Fuji much for video due to the lack of image stabilization. I do like and have that kit lens, but haven't tried it with video. It will definitely make a difference for you though. You might also consider getting a small cage for it also though. By just having a dual grip on either side of the body makes a HUGE difference for keeping things stabilized.
Denae & Andrew thank you for the answer. I thought about any grip also. And thank you for watching my video:) I will delete this link, it's private for me:)
I have both the X-E2S and X-T2/Grip. I like the X-T2 with a grip but without I prefer the "rangefinder" style of the X-E2S on a camera that small. I find I use the X-E2S a lot more than I an using the X-T2. SLR style I do think I prefer a larger camera like my D750 or the X-T2 w/grip. Main reason I went with Fuji is the size and a camera as small as these I do find it is easier to use with the viewfinder way off on the left side.
My short answer is: after years with Canon's 5D- series, you'd probably be better off with the X-E3. But why on Earth would FujiFilm forgo an articulating [touch]screen in the X-E -series! I very much like its design (or Panasonic's GX - series', if not for the yet smaller sensor!...).
Isn't that x-t20 viewfinder also higher spec? More pixel and bigger... Just checked dpreview and resolution is identical. Magnification isn't listed for the x-e3 though. Spotted any difference? Somehow the x-e³ scored a little better on dpreview.
Lordy Bess, these cameras are good. I have an X-E2 that I took along to shoot photos of a walking neighborhood carol sing. I swear, using Fuji's clunky RAF (raw) processing software the results even at ISO 6400 looked better than I'd have been able to get with my Canon 6D. I have the X-T20 as my main camera now, dumping the 6D. My thought is that the 6D with the 135/2 and 16-35/4 lenses is incredible for "special occasions" - the formal portrait shoot (wow!) and general indoor events with the 16-35. But that's also its weakness - the FF camera is just not a carry-everywhere camera, or a "poke it in your face and hope you won't notice." I can point the X-E2 at people from 1-2 feet away and they don't even notice (not being creepy, I'm talking about assignments where I'm taking pictures of friends with their permission). So stoked on Fuji - but the X-E3 relies a bit too much on touchscreen for my tastes. People need to realize also that the X-E2 body is slightly LARGER in front dimensions than the X-T20. The X-T20 is tiny, so you aren't really giving up any significant advantage in smallness compared to the X-E series.
"X-E3 not a rangefinder style". The X-E3 is a mirrorless with a rangefinder shaped body. Similarly, the X-T20 is a MIRRORLESS camera with DSLR shaped body (by definition no "Reflex" prism in DSLR). Sorry I'm afraid either both are design styles or they're not.
Balance .... if you shoot Lanier style / point and shoot style (weird style if at lower shutter speeds), bad lens / body balance does make a difference, but shoot in the normal way and it's not a problem ..... why do people have problems with something so simple. I know it's just preference, but why shake when you could support.
Totally agree. If you're shooting correctly you'll have a hand on the body, a hand on the lens and your face against the EVF/OVF. Lens/body combo shouldn't matter. Plenty of stability there.
UPDATE: As many have pointed, yes, of course, magnesium alloy is a metal and is not plastic. I was trying to explain that these bodies have both plastic AND mag alloy, and they feel a bit on the flimsy side.
No explanation needed🤦🏻 You even emphasised it almost ridiculously with an beautiful artistic brake!? Plastic- - - yy 😅
And THANK YOU. You made the decision soo easy! (Wearing glasses by the way🤓)
I have two X-T20 but I wish I've bought X-E3 instead
1) 30 sec exposure without external remote
2) Comfortable Back button focusing
3) AF point selection joy stick.
I’m pretty sure you can do 30 seconds on XT20
On the E3, you can combine gestures with focus point selection: big, fast swipe -> gesture; slow, methodical swipe -> focus point. Works quite well in my test, though I personally opted for the T20 because I'd miss the flip screen.
The main reason i ordered the xe3 is the 15 minute shutter time, i do a lot of long exposures so this is very handy for me.
Bulb mode on the x-t20 lets you hold the shutter as long as necessary. You could get a timed release external switch to set a fixed time.
You answered your own critique. It's called "range-finder" style because it's not a rangefinder but is "styled" like one.
Exactly, same as the X-T20 is "styled" like an SLR. Those definitions work for me as it give me an idea of the layout of where the viewfinder is (and where my nose winds up, next to the screen or on the screen.... lol)
I know it's been a while since this video came out, but your videos have been so helpful and informative after I discovered your channel. The eye candy delivered in each video has got me hooked! You deserve each and every subscriber plus many more. Please keep making content and I hope everything is well!
I’ve only used the xt20, but it’s been my only digital camera . And it’s great, zero complaints.
Fro, what I hear on the Fuji forums, the new stuff is facing some serious QA issues.
Loved all your images, but that pano was incredible. Good video.
I dont mind having any of those two......if I have money. Till then I can only watch excellent videos about fuji, like this one.
The lack of a D-Pad near the screen and the lack of a built in flash on the x-E3 gives the x-T10 the advantage. Also a better grip on the X-T20
My first video of yours. I really liked it. The truth is, most of us like a camera for a mix of reasons; some major, some minor, just as you cover in this video. So, for me, hearing your big reasons and nit picky reasons for liking/disliking what features are there/not there can help push a decision one way or another. Adding the little nits makes the reasoning more complete in my opinion. I switched from Nikon full frame kit to Fuji XT-20 kit in 2017 and have loved it. But Back Button Focus is a HUGE deal for me. On the XT-20, set the front M-C-S focus mode switch to M, and the AF-L button on the back, under your right thumb is now magically a Back Button Focus. I would have never bought the XT-20 without usable BBF. It isn't as fully "fleshed out" as the BBF on my D750 was, but I use this as my focus in all situations on my XT-20, except in macro work.
HEY!!!! Andrew....I wanted you to know, your the only one who could convince me that maybe there’s something ok about crop sensors. I can tell you have access to medium format as well as full frame. I respect your thoughts. We like shooting very similar things (old small towns/portraits/mountain settings). My dog passed away a couple months ago and we traveled to colorado to spread her ashes in her favorite place. I watched your content the entire trip (12 days). It brought me some joy during a doubly difficult time (Pandemic and everything) You have a great attitude and solid knowledge. THANK YOU SIR!!! Keep posting and keep growing! Michael Neumann - One World Productions Chicago.
I love the X-e3 shape and being the smallest, but the X-T20 wins for me too, because of the popup flash (great for fills) and the flippy LCD for "waist" level street photos. Now the next big question is "Is it worth the extra $$ to go for the X-T30?".
The other question, which is more my own situation, do I swap my X-PRO2 for an X-T20/30 as the backup to my primary camera, which is an X-T3? What would you do?
1) Keep the X-PRO2 with its hybrid VF
2) Get the X-T20 smaller, with flippy LCD and flash
3) Get the the X-E3 - being the smallest X camera with interchangeable lens
4) Get the X-T30 as it more closely matches the X-T3
Over to you...
#4. :) I love the increased number of phase detcrion points and video capability. #2 would be my second choic. But my needs may be different than yours.
Great photo of the family sat on the bridge and all laughing!
While I was watching it I thought it was obvious you meant the Magnesium alloy was really thin and 'plasticky' sounding, not that it was plastic... what is it people are having trouble with?
Is it me, or does the X-T20 shutter sound like (my old) OM10 film camera?
I had both of these, could not get along with the X-T20. It seemed too small for my hands. The X-E3 is even smaller, but the rangefinder-like layout (with the add-on grip) fit like a glove, and it replaced my X-100T.
I think it was because I'm left-eyed, and the centered viewfinder of the X-T20 just didn't leave enough room to work the rear controls.
The bluetooth connection is a deal breaker for X-E3.
It allows automatic image transfer from your camera to your phone, just right after your shot.
The photos are already in my phone's album usually when I take my phone out.
It's a nice feature for those who process photos immediately on the phone, definitely. I never use it, but could see that. Good point.
I owned the X-E2 and was planing to upgrade to the X-E3. After reading the specs I decided to skip the X-E3 and go for my "always wanted to have" X-Pro2. The X-E3 is not a bad camera but Fujifilms decision to make the the X-E3 even smaller then the X-E2 plus getting rid of the D-Pad confirmed my decision.
Great review, just got the XE3. At the end , I thought you were going to been signed by Ken wheeler 😃
Bought an XT20 this week. Wow big step up from my x100s. For me it’s about the focus speed especially when taking pics of my son.
XtT20 is Fuji’s highest selling apse camera so there are a lot of good second hand bargains out there. Use a wrist strap..cameras don’t bounce !
Hi Andrew, good video. I'm also a eyeglasses wearer, and I understood the issue with the presence sensor on the EVF.
Besides that, is the smaller size of the EVF (in comparison with X-T2) an issue in your opinion? Could you see the image entirely and comfortably?
I have an X-T20 but I think that X-E3 is mighty fine too 😍
I've had the XE3 for a few months now. Tried the XT20 in store because I missed the flip screen, nope, really could care less, the ergonomics on the XT20 compared to XE3 were a nightmare. I went in thinking I REALLY would prefer the XT20 and I made a mistake and maybe, you know, sell the other and buy the "right one." I was totally wrong. Sure, the flip screen is nice, but not enough. The XE3 feels way better in hand, and I have the means that I could easily have sold it and bought the XT20 or hell even the XT2. My gut instinct was right. I shoot street, so if landscape is your thing, the XT20 (or XT2) maybe your best bet.
I do prefer the ergonomics of the XE3 also, but only just slightly more. I can see how someone, especially a street photographer, could prefer it over the x-t20
Interesting. I had almost the exact opposite experience haha. I think I just prefer having more outward grip on the body itself. You're totally right about shooting street. Did you ever try the X100F? I think if I did a ton of street photography I might use that.
In 2024, I still keep my e3 1 and will never sell it.
I am left eye dominant and use back button focus so should be gravitating to the XE3, yet here I am sitting with my X-T20 and its DPAD in front of me. Happy as can be!
Really helpful review. Deciding which camera to get as a lightweight carry around. Currently use professional Nikon DSLR's but want something lighter for casual use. The details provided in the video are helpful to know especially being an sometimes eyeglass wearer. The silly reasons are ok by me, shutter sounds and signatures, if it rocks your socks all the better!
Hey Andrew, very interesting review. Looking from London your 'not very special weather' looks pretty great!
I rented an XT-10 a couple of times as a backup to my XT-1 when I was doing some gig photography. I found I just couldn't get used to the smaller body size. Probably if I was using two cameras the same size it would have been ok, but switching between the two didn't work for me. My solution came in the XT-2 making the XT-1 the backup, and I wouldn't dismiss that option for anyone in need of a backup. The XT-1 is still a great camera and you can pick a used one up for a very reasonable price.
I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and best wishes for the new year!
And B&H is having some excellent sales on X-t1's right now.
I *was* going to say the T20 for the viewfinder, but I just found out you cannot put an eyecup on it, so... And black over silver.
I'm getting the black t20, everyone keeps telling me to go the silver route but nah.
There is a 3rd party eye cup for the X-T20. Hit me up if you want the link or you can google it. I am seriously thinking about picking one up. In bright sunlight, this would really help.
If performance are the same, then just look at body design..
Their cameras are exceptionally great, but isn't there a single UI designer in that company? There is like 5 different font styles in the second menu at 3:48 XD
Honestly, great video as usual.
About the magnesium/plastic thing it was understandable what you meant.
Yeah, bit in the past now, but still very useful for how to breakdown a comparison of two camera bodies, plus - of course ! - some lovely shots of the desert ! Thanks.
Just bought a used xt20, cant wait to use it! Thanks for this 😄🙌
Great camera
I’ve been watching a lot of reviews on youtube to convince myself that xt20 is a better choice. Now, I’m decided. Thanks for helping me!
Glad it helped!
XT20 was the right choice of the two. Great vid comparing them.
What do you think about xe3 compare to xt100 in 2019? My main purpose is just for capturing pictures with family while travelling
So the military exchange has the xt20 in a bundle that includes an extended grip, memory card, the xc 16-50 variable aperture AND a 50-230 variable aperture lens for 897(tax free too). I think I was leaning more towards an XE3 with the 18-55mm kit and then pick up a 27mm pancake. The xc lenses dont sell for much but with selling my d3300 and lenses I can come into the kit I described for basically 1000 dollars and some change. Does that make the xt a no brainer, or is the size difference THAT significant, from what I can tell, both cameras with a pancake would go into a messenger bag or coat pocket half way easily enough.
Thank you very much for your pragmatic review. I appreciated the features you evaluated on both cameras. For me personally you hit the points I am interested in. X-t20 it is.
Hi im' getting an x e3 tomorrow I would like to know if I get an adapter to use my FF Nikon lenses will my 15-30 become 22.5 -45 ?
Nice comparison. The flip screen is the big item here!
The X-E3 shutter sounded more quiet.
The deal breaker for me was the discount on the 23 f2 kit. Since both are very similar, the kit option + the joystiq sealed the deal on the Xe-3
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Thanks for putting this video together. You make great points for X-T20 over X-E3. I personally went from X-E3 for sure to I just bought an X-T20. It's amazing how the shutters can mechanically sound so different even though both cameras are supposed to have the same sensor and processor.
but quality is same?
Is there a difference in evf quality?
I took a lot of photos on rock's concerts, so I would like to ask you about the X-e3 on high ISO. How It does? Is a good camera for that?
It's the identical sensor as the x-t2 which I've found to do very well in low light. Not quite as good as some of the recent full frame sensors, but it will hang with any from previous years
@@AndrewGoodCamera recently I was robbed. They took all my gear. I had a Nikon 7100 and the highest ISO I can support was 800. No more, because I hate the noise. So right now I'm looking for on Fuji something like that or better.
That is heartbreaking. :( I have found that the x-t2 is good at 1600 and usable at 3200. However, Fuji has this weird thing where it's actually a stop darker than other brands. So you may get one extra stop iso than what you are used to with the 7100.
@@AndrewGoodCamera Thank you! I'll keep in mind!
I meet your channel looking for answers for film rolls. I love analog to, so I've been following back then. Thanks for all!
I had an X-T20 for a few weeks before giving it to My ex and instead ordering an X-T2.
Why? - you would ask Me. Because after a few years with the excellent (despite a few shortcomings) Sony A7r, the X-T20 felt a bit like a very cute toy. The size may be one thing (isn't a small size supposed to be a good thing? Apparently, not always), but I am sure there was more: it didn't feel professional enough. I can't quite explain it, but somehow these manufacturers do manage to make entry-level cameras appear entry-level next to their [semi-]professional brethren, despite a number of distinct advantages the X-T20 held over the X-T2, such as the touchscreen and the touch-to-focus feature, the pop-up flash (yes, the industry wants you to believe it is a useless gimmick for serious photographers, but the reality is having one is better than having none, and if you diffuse its effect somewhat with something like a piece of paper or bounce it against a low white ceiling or a reflector / styrofoam sheet, or use it as a fill flash in street photography, in many cases it will contribute to a better output, given the subject isn't far. Remember, under the reign of kings of stagnancy (i.e., Canon / Nikon), the industry had you believe mirrorless systems were a joke and articulating screens were for the uninitiated, until Sony (and Fuji, and Panasonic and Olympus to a lesser extent) proved Canon / Nikon wrong, compelling these two dinosaurs to adapt to the maturing market.
The X-T2 felt much better in My hands than the X-T20. Its larger and at least ostensibly better quality viewfinder and the liveview screen (I don't know what it is - superior screen technologies or some sort of an optical illusion?) matched the quality of Sony A7r's, if not exceeded it by a hair. It is a shame the X-T2's beautiful display is not touch-sensitive. I also prefer the 3-axis tilt of the X-T2's display: it isn't quite perfect, but certainly handy for portraiture or architectural photography.
You see, on paper the X-T2 and the X-T20 appear to have the same display, but in reality (excepting lack of touch-sensitivity in the X-T2!), the X-T2's display appears distinctly more professional - sharper, more vibrant, less washed-out... Same with the viewfinder and thus the whole shooting experience.
Another observation: while the DPreview image quality comparison shows the two (if I recall correctly) to render identical quality images under identical conditions, somehow in My experience, the X-T2 appeared to impress more with its output. Whether it was indeed so - or just appeared to be, owing to the X-T2's more professional handling and the better liveview and viewfinder rendition - I do not know (have to test them side by side with identical lenses to find it out). Either way, that's the impression using both the camera imparted on Me.
I recall a very similar experience using the Canon EOS 40D after about a year with the 350D back in 2006-2007: in a year time with the latter I hadn't managed to produce an image to be proud of. Days after acquiring the 40D I managed to outdo Myself during My first book cover shoot. [Semi-]Professional equipment has an uncanny way of inspiring the photographer that their entry-level brethren simply lack, even if the image quality achievable is roughly on par. That said, I also will add (and contradict Myself in doing so) that the 5D Mark II I acquired a couple of years later, despite its larger sensor and better resolution did not particularly impress, though the mirrorless Sony and the Fuji (and even the Samsung NX300 I procured for the girlfriend second-hand, a week ago for as mere €135 for the body) did very much!
What's also remarkable - is that the X-A5 (a Bayer sensor Fuji) I bought for the ex, then returned and gave her the X-T20, took such horrible images that I was left suspecting it was an interchangeable 1/2.7" sensor camera. The imagines on its display were terrible, and looked no better imported into the computer! I am suspecting, Fuji has some sort of a fake sensor with only a tiny portion of its APS-C surface actually collecting light. Perhaps to showcase strong suits of the X-Trans sensor, they hamper X-A -series sensors and dumb down processor algorithms, because none of the APS-C (or even Micro Four Thirds) cameras I have experience shooting, produced such insufferable rubbish! I'm talking noise and extreme lack of detail phone cameras back in the first couple of years of the millennium produced! My findings contradict the DPreview image quality tests to a iota.
Have you ever shot with the X-A5?
Back to the topic, I think if the X-E3 had the quality of the X-T2's display, I'd keep it. However, the lack of an articulating screen (at least, it's touch!) and its small viewfinder are substantial compromises. I like the X-E3 design, but its lack of screen articulation is off-putting.
Now, imagine a camera (today, not in 5 years!) with a 40MP+ for APS-C (or 70MP+ for Full-Frame, or a 100MP+ Medium-format) BSI X-Trans or Sony sensor, a fully articulating touchscreen (that also flips 180 degrees for self-portraits, or a detachable magnetic one), a small integrated bounce-able flash to complement its hotshoe, obviously no AA filter (no camera has to have it!), 7+ stops of in-body image-stabilisation and Pixel Shift, 15+ stops of dynamic range, medium- and small-RAW output options (maybe even user-definable) along with full-res RAWs (all losslessly compressed, through implementation of vastly superior to current compression algorithms), in roughly the size- and form factor of the X-E3, but sporting a twice larger viewfinder! $1.000 for the APS-C one, $1800 for the full-frame and $3.000 for the Medium-Format one (the size of the X-Pro2)! Those would be cameras to beat right now; they'd put the likes of Sony's flagships to shame, not to mention Canon / Nikon...
Excuse My long rant and the overly-fantastical conclusion of My post.
I can't go back to a fixed screen... have had it since D5300, tried cameras without it...really messed up my shooting style. need it for street and landscape. Will stick with XT ** series unless an XE4 comes out with tilt.
But is one big different between this two ,the T-Mode for long exposure is X-T20=30 Seconds and the X-E3=3 Min or maybe longer.
Which camera you think is better for filming. I'm a young musician and i wish to film myself in low light situations
You want a flip screen. x-t20
In photography which is best fujifilm xe-3 or sony a6000
So what does"blue tooth" in the camera allow you to do with it? Can you upload pictures directly from the camera to Google photos or icloud without first transferring them to your phone or computer?
In 2019 I would pick the X-E3 all day long. I chose the X100F over all of them, however.
vanslem6 why xe3 over xt20?
@@xamuth AF joystick! I also really like the rangefinder styling with the EVF on the far side.
I had the opportunity to trade my Canon 6D for an X-T20, but I kept the Canon and still have it today. There was something about the T20 that I just didn't care for.
Again I picked the X100F over all of them and really, really like having a camera with a fixed lens. So much so that my travel bag has the X100F and a GA645i I picked up a few months ago.
I have an XT20 and don't miss the swivel screen at all. I use my excellent Pixel 2 XL if I ever want to vlog, not that I do much vlogging. I prefer to hold a smaller device for vlogs, Not a biggie at all!
Two things would make me buy the next XE...A decent eyecup that could be replaced with a third party brand and a flip screen...I would want the keypad back too.....I just prefer a keypad plus I've never seen a joystick maintain the reliability of a keypad through usage...
I doubt XE series will ever have flip screen, unfortunately.
I agree...I'm kind of getting back into Olympus after acquiring a used EM1 and I'm loving it..but when my XPRO1 starts going I'll probably upgrade to the XT-20!...That flip screen does make a difference.
but that’s what rangefinder style meant, right? not a rangefinder but made to look like one..
good choice: flip screen is a must have; and shutter sound :) - But I guess X-E1 shuttersound is more horrible than that X-E3!
What's the X-T20 shuttersound compared to X-T2? you own both, I just the latter!
Which lens with X-E3 and X-T20 shown in this video clip?
I had the 16mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.2 (my two favorite lenses) but switched back and forth. I think mostly the x-t20 had the 16mm though.
Got it, thanks.
Seeing you have the X-T2 as a main camera, it's no big surprise. I have the Pro 2 and the E3 combo, and I love it! Small but key differences no doubt, and i do kind of miss out on the non-flip screen on either model, but it's not important for me :)
I just can't deal with the Fuji white balance, and greens. But I do like to whip around my X-E2s on black and white. The weight is nice.
Also I hope that the have fixed the on/off switch from the X-E2s. Mine turns itself on ALL the time against my jacket, or elbow, or strap. I am considering taking a file to the switch to shave it down flush to the body.
What's the deal with hand wraps
Severe psoriasis
@@AndrewGoodCamera sorry bout that bro
super helpful, any review of xt30?
I agree Xt20 is better but what's up with the silly 4th reason.....did you not getone else to sign your camera
Let me know if you'd like us to sign your camera.
which is better XT100 vs XT20? Thank you
xe3 has better af than xt20 but the fixed lcd was a terrible idea :\ But both (and not only fuji cameras) have 1.04M dot LCD, I wish everyone would finally make it at least 1.2 as a standard these days...
Hey D&A (DNA ?!?), I recently bought the XT20 along with the 18-55 Fuji lens. I haven't used them much yet, as I am still in 'RTFM' mode. I hope I'll be as happy with my combo as you seem to be with yours. Hope to see you doing more with the XT20 sometime. Love the location !!! Cheers !
I never rtfm. Gets me into trouble when I review gear, regularly. ;) Definitely more x-t20 videos. I seem to be grabbing it more often than x-t2 these days.
Thx for the response. I appreciate that you take the time ! I do have to rely deeply on the manual, because I am not pro and have much less time to go out and shoot. Above that, the weather here in Belgium isn't always that great... I am used to my 80D, but I think I'll need some more time before i can confidently take the Fuji out for a spin.
I must say that I am also quite surprised by the different ways people go to the XT20 or leave it... We both like it because of the size (right?!) and the person I got mine from sold it because his hands were too big (he now owns a XT2).
I also can't wait to try out the film simulations. I always shot Fuji in the film era (Canon Eos 650).
Have a nice rest of the weekend !!
I bought an xt1 and returned and finally got the xt20.... my main reason was that flip out screen it is so helpful for landscape, inside canyons in awkward angles... though i mentioned xt1 the point is to emphasize on flip out screen feature.
Should i buy the x-t20 or the x-t100? I'll be shooting street/fashion photography.
x-t20
I see thaatyou did not lens hoods. Are they not mandatory in sunny environments?
Uh, no.
Entertaining, yet so informative. I like your style. Thanks for this, I'm just about to place my order for the X-T20 and you've just given me that extra confidence boost.
does the x t20 screen flip out horizontally too?
No
Just got an X-T20. I am have a major problem with the palm of my hand turning on the Menu button when I pick up the camera. Driving me nuts Any soluition?
INteresting. I've not had that problem. I must hold it differently. That would be annoying.
The pad of my thumb puts pressure on the camera (leverage) to pick it up and to twist the zoom, that presses the button. I returned it and got a X-T2 (graphite) don't like the size as much but there is room for my thumb. I like the other "upgrades" and the price was great. Still easier to carry than either of my Nikons (D500 & D850) Each tool will have it's place.
I too have glasses...thank you for the tip about the x-e3. Going the X-t20 route. :)
yw!
I'm a tad slow but just got an x-t20 after using the x-e2 for quite a while. I have to agree with you about the shutter sound; seems crazy but it's true how good it sounds by comparison. :)
Right!?
Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend the X-E3 for someone who looks at the EVF with the lef eye? This is my case and I wonder if having the EVF in the middle would be better for me. Anyway thanks for any reply
left eye dominant? then just go with XT20
Hello, I am from Argentina, sorry the question but who is Tony?
Hi! Great video! Thanks! Wanted to ask something about the X-T20; is that possible to disable the touch screen for the focus, but still it will keep it enabled to switch the pics while I review them? (like on smartphone) Thanks!!!
Yes
Ha, I fully agree about "balance", never had any problem with it.
Did u use any external flash for lighting for the family shoot?
Nope. Not this time. This canyon has amazing reflected light.
I need some really great advice right now, I have a Canon 5D4 + 24-70 f/2.8 which I bought for paid wedding assignments & short film making jobs. Due to some reasons I have left the photography job and the gear is sitting in my almirah collecting dust. I don't think I need that expensive gear now and is only blocking money. But still I have a lot of passion for photography and want to make drama short films.
I need advice on should I sell my current gear and buy a relatively cheaper gear like sony or fuji mirrorless?
Hi Andrew, which lens would you recommend for xt2 to take videos? I suppose, to buy the kit lens (18-55mm f2, 8-4). What do you think?
Thank you.
What sort of videos and in what locations?
Denae & Andrew I make a project "1 second a day" (it is often 2-5 seconds a say:)). I take videos at home and outside. I use now 23mm f2, 23mm f1, 4 and 56mm f1, 2. What I don't like about them, that I can not keep it calm enough. I think, image stabilization would be good for that.
Beautiful video. We don't use Fuji much for video due to the lack of image stabilization. I do like and have that kit lens, but haven't tried it with video. It will definitely make a difference for you though. You might also consider getting a small cage for it also though. By just having a dual grip on either side of the body makes a HUGE difference for keeping things stabilized.
Denae & Andrew thank you for the answer. I thought about any grip also. And thank you for watching my video:) I will delete this link, it's private for me:)
I have both the X-E2S and X-T2/Grip. I like the X-T2 with a grip but without I prefer the "rangefinder" style of the X-E2S on a camera that small. I find I use the X-E2S a lot more than I an using the X-T2. SLR style I do think I prefer a larger camera like my D750 or the X-T2 w/grip. Main reason I went with Fuji is the size and a camera as small as these I do find it is easier to use with the viewfinder way off on the left side.
I agree on your balance comment. I've never been bothered by the balance of a camera and lens combo.
How are these cameras when working with external strobes on location or in studio?
Conclusion? Which one is better?
My short answer is: after years with Canon's 5D- series, you'd probably be better off with the X-E3. But why on Earth would FujiFilm forgo an articulating [touch]screen in the X-E -series! I very much like its design (or Panasonic's GX - series', if not for the yet smaller sensor!...).
Isn't that x-t20 viewfinder also higher spec? More pixel and bigger... Just checked dpreview and resolution is identical. Magnification isn't listed for the x-e3 though. Spotted any difference? Somehow the x-e³ scored a little better on dpreview.
And FYI I prefer your content over that of those people that signed the camera 😜 hell I'm not even subscribed to them
Very interesting. I hadn't checked DP Review, but that seems very odd.
very entertaining review! I still can't decide btwn these two....
Whats that camera sling backpack?
Aren't they mirrorless? What's with the shutter sounds.
Shutter is not the same as a mirror. They still have shutters
Lordy Bess, these cameras are good. I have an X-E2 that I took along to shoot photos of a walking neighborhood carol sing. I swear, using Fuji's clunky RAF (raw) processing software the results even at ISO 6400 looked better than I'd have been able to get with my Canon 6D. I have the X-T20 as my main camera now, dumping the 6D. My thought is that the 6D with the 135/2 and 16-35/4 lenses is incredible for "special occasions" - the formal portrait shoot (wow!) and general indoor events with the 16-35. But that's also its weakness - the FF camera is just not a carry-everywhere camera, or a "poke it in your face and hope you won't notice." I can point the X-E2 at people from 1-2 feet away and they don't even notice (not being creepy, I'm talking about assignments where I'm taking pictures of friends with their permission). So stoked on Fuji - but the X-E3 relies a bit too much on touchscreen for my tastes. People need to realize also that the X-E2 body is slightly LARGER in front dimensions than the X-T20. The X-T20 is tiny, so you aren't really giving up any significant advantage in smallness compared to the X-E series.
runbei why would you state you're not being creepy, street photography is amazing.
That hat is awesome, where is it from?
Search for the UA-cam channel Left Coast media.
To me X-E3 has a better grip, but i got the X-T20 for the video.
roman dulce why do you think the T20 has better video?
Just bought an XT20 for $300 to pair with my XC lenses and XT100. I’m a cheap ass but I feel like I’ve got all the Fuji gear I need for
"X-E3 not a rangefinder style". The X-E3 is a mirrorless with a rangefinder shaped body. Similarly, the X-T20 is a MIRRORLESS camera with DSLR shaped body (by definition no "Reflex" prism in DSLR). Sorry I'm afraid either both are design styles or they're not.
I don't disagree.
Torn between these 2. I prefer tilt screen on y2k but i like the long shutter of 15min? On e3
Just asign the back buttom focus to the rear dial wheel which you can push. At least on your XT 2. That made it for me.
Yeah I guess. Don't like how it feels personally.
I agree, on some Fuji, the shutter is annoyingly vibrate too much & produce ugly sound.
Wich one is better for a beginner? Thx
You let Tony write on your camera?
absolutely
It's not metal. It's plasticky magnesium alloy?!? Since when was magnesium alloy a plastic?
I didn't mean to imply that magnesium alloy = plastic. I meant that these bodies have both, and they feel a bit cheap and flimsy to me.
Balance .... if you shoot Lanier style / point and shoot style (weird style if at lower shutter speeds), bad lens / body balance does make a difference, but shoot in the normal way and it's not a problem ..... why do people have problems with something so simple. I know it's just preference, but why shake when you could support.
Totally agree. If you're shooting correctly you'll have a hand on the body, a hand on the lens and your face against the EVF/OVF. Lens/body combo shouldn't matter. Plenty of stability there.