UPDATE: As many have pointed, yes, of course, magnesium alloy is a metal and is not plastic. I was trying to explain that these bodies have both plastic AND mag alloy, and they feel a bit on the flimsy side.
No explanation needed🤦🏻 You even emphasised it almost ridiculously with an beautiful artistic brake!? Plastic- - - yy 😅 And THANK YOU. You made the decision soo easy! (Wearing glasses by the way🤓)
I have two X-T20 but I wish I've bought X-E3 instead 1) 30 sec exposure without external remote 2) Comfortable Back button focusing 3) AF point selection joy stick.
On the E3, you can combine gestures with focus point selection: big, fast swipe -> gesture; slow, methodical swipe -> focus point. Works quite well in my test, though I personally opted for the T20 because I'd miss the flip screen.
Exactly, same as the X-T20 is "styled" like an SLR. Those definitions work for me as it give me an idea of the layout of where the viewfinder is (and where my nose winds up, next to the screen or on the screen.... lol)
I’ve only used the xt20, but it’s been my only digital camera . And it’s great, zero complaints. Fro, what I hear on the Fuji forums, the new stuff is facing some serious QA issues.
My first video of yours. I really liked it. The truth is, most of us like a camera for a mix of reasons; some major, some minor, just as you cover in this video. So, for me, hearing your big reasons and nit picky reasons for liking/disliking what features are there/not there can help push a decision one way or another. Adding the little nits makes the reasoning more complete in my opinion. I switched from Nikon full frame kit to Fuji XT-20 kit in 2017 and have loved it. But Back Button Focus is a HUGE deal for me. On the XT-20, set the front M-C-S focus mode switch to M, and the AF-L button on the back, under your right thumb is now magically a Back Button Focus. I would have never bought the XT-20 without usable BBF. It isn't as fully "fleshed out" as the BBF on my D750 was, but I use this as my focus in all situations on my XT-20, except in macro work.
I know it's been a while since this video came out, but your videos have been so helpful and informative after I discovered your channel. The eye candy delivered in each video has got me hooked! You deserve each and every subscriber plus many more. Please keep making content and I hope everything is well!
HEY!!!! Andrew....I wanted you to know, your the only one who could convince me that maybe there’s something ok about crop sensors. I can tell you have access to medium format as well as full frame. I respect your thoughts. We like shooting very similar things (old small towns/portraits/mountain settings). My dog passed away a couple months ago and we traveled to colorado to spread her ashes in her favorite place. I watched your content the entire trip (12 days). It brought me some joy during a doubly difficult time (Pandemic and everything) You have a great attitude and solid knowledge. THANK YOU SIR!!! Keep posting and keep growing! Michael Neumann - One World Productions Chicago.
I am left eye dominant and use back button focus so should be gravitating to the XE3, yet here I am sitting with my X-T20 and its DPAD in front of me. Happy as can be!
I've had the XE3 for a few months now. Tried the XT20 in store because I missed the flip screen, nope, really could care less, the ergonomics on the XT20 compared to XE3 were a nightmare. I went in thinking I REALLY would prefer the XT20 and I made a mistake and maybe, you know, sell the other and buy the "right one." I was totally wrong. Sure, the flip screen is nice, but not enough. The XE3 feels way better in hand, and I have the means that I could easily have sold it and bought the XT20 or hell even the XT2. My gut instinct was right. I shoot street, so if landscape is your thing, the XT20 (or XT2) maybe your best bet.
I do prefer the ergonomics of the XE3 also, but only just slightly more. I can see how someone, especially a street photographer, could prefer it over the x-t20
Interesting. I had almost the exact opposite experience haha. I think I just prefer having more outward grip on the body itself. You're totally right about shooting street. Did you ever try the X100F? I think if I did a ton of street photography I might use that.
I owned the X-E2 and was planing to upgrade to the X-E3. After reading the specs I decided to skip the X-E3 and go for my "always wanted to have" X-Pro2. The X-E3 is not a bad camera but Fujifilms decision to make the the X-E3 even smaller then the X-E2 plus getting rid of the D-Pad confirmed my decision.
Thanks for putting this video together. You make great points for X-T20 over X-E3. I personally went from X-E3 for sure to I just bought an X-T20. It's amazing how the shutters can mechanically sound so different even though both cameras are supposed to have the same sensor and processor.
Thank you very much for your pragmatic review. I appreciated the features you evaluated on both cameras. For me personally you hit the points I am interested in. X-t20 it is.
Really helpful review. Deciding which camera to get as a lightweight carry around. Currently use professional Nikon DSLR's but want something lighter for casual use. The details provided in the video are helpful to know especially being an sometimes eyeglass wearer. The silly reasons are ok by me, shutter sounds and signatures, if it rocks your socks all the better!
The bluetooth connection is a deal breaker for X-E3. It allows automatic image transfer from your camera to your phone, just right after your shot. The photos are already in my phone's album usually when I take my phone out.
Yeah, bit in the past now, but still very useful for how to breakdown a comparison of two camera bodies, plus - of course ! - some lovely shots of the desert ! Thanks.
Hey Andrew, very interesting review. Looking from London your 'not very special weather' looks pretty great! I rented an XT-10 a couple of times as a backup to my XT-1 when I was doing some gig photography. I found I just couldn't get used to the smaller body size. Probably if I was using two cameras the same size it would have been ok, but switching between the two didn't work for me. My solution came in the XT-2 making the XT-1 the backup, and I wouldn't dismiss that option for anyone in need of a backup. The XT-1 is still a great camera and you can pick a used one up for a very reasonable price. I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and best wishes for the new year!
Two things would make me buy the next XE...A decent eyecup that could be replaced with a third party brand and a flip screen...I would want the keypad back too.....I just prefer a keypad plus I've never seen a joystick maintain the reliability of a keypad through usage...
I agree...I'm kind of getting back into Olympus after acquiring a used EM1 and I'm loving it..but when my XPRO1 starts going I'll probably upgrade to the XT-20!...That flip screen does make a difference.
I bought an xt1 and returned and finally got the xt20.... my main reason was that flip out screen it is so helpful for landscape, inside canyons in awkward angles... though i mentioned xt1 the point is to emphasize on flip out screen feature.
I love the X-e3 shape and being the smallest, but the X-T20 wins for me too, because of the popup flash (great for fills) and the flippy LCD for "waist" level street photos. Now the next big question is "Is it worth the extra $$ to go for the X-T30?". The other question, which is more my own situation, do I swap my X-PRO2 for an X-T20/30 as the backup to my primary camera, which is an X-T3? What would you do? 1) Keep the X-PRO2 with its hybrid VF 2) Get the X-T20 smaller, with flippy LCD and flash 3) Get the the X-E3 - being the smallest X camera with interchangeable lens 4) Get the X-T30 as it more closely matches the X-T3 Over to you...
#4. :) I love the increased number of phase detcrion points and video capability. #2 would be my second choic. But my needs may be different than yours.
I have an XT20 and don't miss the swivel screen at all. I use my excellent Pixel 2 XL if I ever want to vlog, not that I do much vlogging. I prefer to hold a smaller device for vlogs, Not a biggie at all!
Seeing you have the X-T2 as a main camera, it's no big surprise. I have the Pro 2 and the E3 combo, and I love it! Small but key differences no doubt, and i do kind of miss out on the non-flip screen on either model, but it's not important for me :)
There is a 3rd party eye cup for the X-T20. Hit me up if you want the link or you can google it. I am seriously thinking about picking one up. In bright sunlight, this would really help.
I had both of these, could not get along with the X-T20. It seemed too small for my hands. The X-E3 is even smaller, but the rangefinder-like layout (with the add-on grip) fit like a glove, and it replaced my X-100T. I think it was because I'm left-eyed, and the centered viewfinder of the X-T20 just didn't leave enough room to work the rear controls.
Entertaining, yet so informative. I like your style. Thanks for this, I'm just about to place my order for the X-T20 and you've just given me that extra confidence boost.
@@xamuth AF joystick! I also really like the rangefinder styling with the EVF on the far side. I had the opportunity to trade my Canon 6D for an X-T20, but I kept the Canon and still have it today. There was something about the T20 that I just didn't care for. Again I picked the X100F over all of them and really, really like having a camera with a fixed lens. So much so that my travel bag has the X100F and a GA645i I picked up a few months ago.
Lordy Bess, these cameras are good. I have an X-E2 that I took along to shoot photos of a walking neighborhood carol sing. I swear, using Fuji's clunky RAF (raw) processing software the results even at ISO 6400 looked better than I'd have been able to get with my Canon 6D. I have the X-T20 as my main camera now, dumping the 6D. My thought is that the 6D with the 135/2 and 16-35/4 lenses is incredible for "special occasions" - the formal portrait shoot (wow!) and general indoor events with the 16-35. But that's also its weakness - the FF camera is just not a carry-everywhere camera, or a "poke it in your face and hope you won't notice." I can point the X-E2 at people from 1-2 feet away and they don't even notice (not being creepy, I'm talking about assignments where I'm taking pictures of friends with their permission). So stoked on Fuji - but the X-E3 relies a bit too much on touchscreen for my tastes. People need to realize also that the X-E2 body is slightly LARGER in front dimensions than the X-T20. The X-T20 is tiny, so you aren't really giving up any significant advantage in smallness compared to the X-E series.
I'm a tad slow but just got an x-t20 after using the x-e2 for quite a while. I have to agree with you about the shutter sound; seems crazy but it's true how good it sounds by comparison. :)
I just can't deal with the Fuji white balance, and greens. But I do like to whip around my X-E2s on black and white. The weight is nice. Also I hope that the have fixed the on/off switch from the X-E2s. Mine turns itself on ALL the time against my jacket, or elbow, or strap. I am considering taking a file to the switch to shave it down flush to the body.
I have both the X-E2S and X-T2/Grip. I like the X-T2 with a grip but without I prefer the "rangefinder" style of the X-E2S on a camera that small. I find I use the X-E2S a lot more than I an using the X-T2. SLR style I do think I prefer a larger camera like my D750 or the X-T2 w/grip. Main reason I went with Fuji is the size and a camera as small as these I do find it is easier to use with the viewfinder way off on the left side.
I had an X-T20 for a few weeks before giving it to My ex and instead ordering an X-T2. Why? - you would ask Me. Because after a few years with the excellent (despite a few shortcomings) Sony A7r, the X-T20 felt a bit like a very cute toy. The size may be one thing (isn't a small size supposed to be a good thing? Apparently, not always), but I am sure there was more: it didn't feel professional enough. I can't quite explain it, but somehow these manufacturers do manage to make entry-level cameras appear entry-level next to their [semi-]professional brethren, despite a number of distinct advantages the X-T20 held over the X-T2, such as the touchscreen and the touch-to-focus feature, the pop-up flash (yes, the industry wants you to believe it is a useless gimmick for serious photographers, but the reality is having one is better than having none, and if you diffuse its effect somewhat with something like a piece of paper or bounce it against a low white ceiling or a reflector / styrofoam sheet, or use it as a fill flash in street photography, in many cases it will contribute to a better output, given the subject isn't far. Remember, under the reign of kings of stagnancy (i.e., Canon / Nikon), the industry had you believe mirrorless systems were a joke and articulating screens were for the uninitiated, until Sony (and Fuji, and Panasonic and Olympus to a lesser extent) proved Canon / Nikon wrong, compelling these two dinosaurs to adapt to the maturing market. The X-T2 felt much better in My hands than the X-T20. Its larger and at least ostensibly better quality viewfinder and the liveview screen (I don't know what it is - superior screen technologies or some sort of an optical illusion?) matched the quality of Sony A7r's, if not exceeded it by a hair. It is a shame the X-T2's beautiful display is not touch-sensitive. I also prefer the 3-axis tilt of the X-T2's display: it isn't quite perfect, but certainly handy for portraiture or architectural photography. You see, on paper the X-T2 and the X-T20 appear to have the same display, but in reality (excepting lack of touch-sensitivity in the X-T2!), the X-T2's display appears distinctly more professional - sharper, more vibrant, less washed-out... Same with the viewfinder and thus the whole shooting experience. Another observation: while the DPreview image quality comparison shows the two (if I recall correctly) to render identical quality images under identical conditions, somehow in My experience, the X-T2 appeared to impress more with its output. Whether it was indeed so - or just appeared to be, owing to the X-T2's more professional handling and the better liveview and viewfinder rendition - I do not know (have to test them side by side with identical lenses to find it out). Either way, that's the impression using both the camera imparted on Me. I recall a very similar experience using the Canon EOS 40D after about a year with the 350D back in 2006-2007: in a year time with the latter I hadn't managed to produce an image to be proud of. Days after acquiring the 40D I managed to outdo Myself during My first book cover shoot. [Semi-]Professional equipment has an uncanny way of inspiring the photographer that their entry-level brethren simply lack, even if the image quality achievable is roughly on par. That said, I also will add (and contradict Myself in doing so) that the 5D Mark II I acquired a couple of years later, despite its larger sensor and better resolution did not particularly impress, though the mirrorless Sony and the Fuji (and even the Samsung NX300 I procured for the girlfriend second-hand, a week ago for as mere €135 for the body) did very much! What's also remarkable - is that the X-A5 (a Bayer sensor Fuji) I bought for the ex, then returned and gave her the X-T20, took such horrible images that I was left suspecting it was an interchangeable 1/2.7" sensor camera. The imagines on its display were terrible, and looked no better imported into the computer! I am suspecting, Fuji has some sort of a fake sensor with only a tiny portion of its APS-C surface actually collecting light. Perhaps to showcase strong suits of the X-Trans sensor, they hamper X-A -series sensors and dumb down processor algorithms, because none of the APS-C (or even Micro Four Thirds) cameras I have experience shooting, produced such insufferable rubbish! I'm talking noise and extreme lack of detail phone cameras back in the first couple of years of the millennium produced! My findings contradict the DPreview image quality tests to a iota. Have you ever shot with the X-A5? Back to the topic, I think if the X-E3 had the quality of the X-T2's display, I'd keep it. However, the lack of an articulating screen (at least, it's touch!) and its small viewfinder are substantial compromises. I like the X-E3 design, but its lack of screen articulation is off-putting. Now, imagine a camera (today, not in 5 years!) with a 40MP+ for APS-C (or 70MP+ for Full-Frame, or a 100MP+ Medium-format) BSI X-Trans or Sony sensor, a fully articulating touchscreen (that also flips 180 degrees for self-portraits, or a detachable magnetic one), a small integrated bounce-able flash to complement its hotshoe, obviously no AA filter (no camera has to have it!), 7+ stops of in-body image-stabilisation and Pixel Shift, 15+ stops of dynamic range, medium- and small-RAW output options (maybe even user-definable) along with full-res RAWs (all losslessly compressed, through implementation of vastly superior to current compression algorithms), in roughly the size- and form factor of the X-E3, but sporting a twice larger viewfinder! $1.000 for the APS-C one, $1800 for the full-frame and $3.000 for the Medium-Format one (the size of the X-Pro2)! Those would be cameras to beat right now; they'd put the likes of Sony's flagships to shame, not to mention Canon / Nikon... Excuse My long rant and the overly-fantastical conclusion of My post.
Hi Andrew, good video. I'm also a eyeglasses wearer, and I understood the issue with the presence sensor on the EVF. Besides that, is the smaller size of the EVF (in comparison with X-T2) an issue in your opinion? Could you see the image entirely and comfortably?
Hey D&A (DNA ?!?), I recently bought the XT20 along with the 18-55 Fuji lens. I haven't used them much yet, as I am still in 'RTFM' mode. I hope I'll be as happy with my combo as you seem to be with yours. Hope to see you doing more with the XT20 sometime. Love the location !!! Cheers !
I never rtfm. Gets me into trouble when I review gear, regularly. ;) Definitely more x-t20 videos. I seem to be grabbing it more often than x-t2 these days.
Thx for the response. I appreciate that you take the time ! I do have to rely deeply on the manual, because I am not pro and have much less time to go out and shoot. Above that, the weather here in Belgium isn't always that great... I am used to my 80D, but I think I'll need some more time before i can confidently take the Fuji out for a spin. I must say that I am also quite surprised by the different ways people go to the XT20 or leave it... We both like it because of the size (right?!) and the person I got mine from sold it because his hands were too big (he now owns a XT2). I also can't wait to try out the film simulations. I always shot Fuji in the film era (Canon Eos 650). Have a nice rest of the weekend !!
I can't go back to a fixed screen... have had it since D5300, tried cameras without it...really messed up my shooting style. need it for street and landscape. Will stick with XT ** series unless an XE4 comes out with tilt.
While I was watching it I thought it was obvious you meant the Magnesium alloy was really thin and 'plasticky' sounding, not that it was plastic... what is it people are having trouble with? Is it me, or does the X-T20 shutter sound like (my old) OM10 film camera?
xe3 has better af than xt20 but the fixed lcd was a terrible idea :\ But both (and not only fuji cameras) have 1.04M dot LCD, I wish everyone would finally make it at least 1.2 as a standard these days...
i would prefer xe3 over t-20 simply because it is the latest out of two cameras, it has Bluetooth technology and it has a better battery life compare to t-20
I heavily prefer the ergonomics of the X-T20 to the X-E3. I've put grips on both of them too to give them a tad more girth. I really like them both for filming.
So the military exchange has the xt20 in a bundle that includes an extended grip, memory card, the xc 16-50 variable aperture AND a 50-230 variable aperture lens for 897(tax free too). I think I was leaning more towards an XE3 with the 18-55mm kit and then pick up a 27mm pancake. The xc lenses dont sell for much but with selling my d3300 and lenses I can come into the kit I described for basically 1000 dollars and some change. Does that make the xt a no brainer, or is the size difference THAT significant, from what I can tell, both cameras with a pancake would go into a messenger bag or coat pocket half way easily enough.
At first, I thought you'd keep xe3 since you're already have xt2, and keeping xt20 would be redundant. Anyway, great video talking both pro and con about the cams. I'm enjoy watching as a happy xt20 owner.
Interesting. Personally, I could never let joystick go. And that shutter sound... after you had been married for several months or years to AK-47 every other shutter sound is a Whitney Houston song...
Their cameras are exceptionally great, but isn't there a single UI designer in that company? There is like 5 different font styles in the second menu at 3:48 XD
Looking for something smaller to have in my daily carry- Been debating these 2 as well- attracted to the XE3 because of the different look, but thanks to my wifes A6000, I don't think I can go back to a non tilty screen- good vid as always
good choice: flip screen is a must have; and shutter sound :) - But I guess X-E1 shuttersound is more horrible than that X-E3! What's the X-T20 shuttersound compared to X-T2? you own both, I just the latter!
So what does"blue tooth" in the camera allow you to do with it? Can you upload pictures directly from the camera to Google photos or icloud without first transferring them to your phone or computer?
UPDATE: As many have pointed, yes, of course, magnesium alloy is a metal and is not plastic. I was trying to explain that these bodies have both plastic AND mag alloy, and they feel a bit on the flimsy side.
No explanation needed🤦🏻 You even emphasised it almost ridiculously with an beautiful artistic brake!? Plastic- - - yy 😅
And THANK YOU. You made the decision soo easy! (Wearing glasses by the way🤓)
The main reason i ordered the xe3 is the 15 minute shutter time, i do a lot of long exposures so this is very handy for me.
Bulb mode on the x-t20 lets you hold the shutter as long as necessary. You could get a timed release external switch to set a fixed time.
I have two X-T20 but I wish I've bought X-E3 instead
1) 30 sec exposure without external remote
2) Comfortable Back button focusing
3) AF point selection joy stick.
I’m pretty sure you can do 30 seconds on XT20
On the E3, you can combine gestures with focus point selection: big, fast swipe -> gesture; slow, methodical swipe -> focus point. Works quite well in my test, though I personally opted for the T20 because I'd miss the flip screen.
I dont mind having any of those two......if I have money. Till then I can only watch excellent videos about fuji, like this one.
You answered your own critique. It's called "range-finder" style because it's not a rangefinder but is "styled" like one.
Exactly, same as the X-T20 is "styled" like an SLR. Those definitions work for me as it give me an idea of the layout of where the viewfinder is (and where my nose winds up, next to the screen or on the screen.... lol)
I’ve only used the xt20, but it’s been my only digital camera . And it’s great, zero complaints.
Fro, what I hear on the Fuji forums, the new stuff is facing some serious QA issues.
I have an X-T20 but I think that X-E3 is mighty fine too 😍
My first video of yours. I really liked it. The truth is, most of us like a camera for a mix of reasons; some major, some minor, just as you cover in this video. So, for me, hearing your big reasons and nit picky reasons for liking/disliking what features are there/not there can help push a decision one way or another. Adding the little nits makes the reasoning more complete in my opinion. I switched from Nikon full frame kit to Fuji XT-20 kit in 2017 and have loved it. But Back Button Focus is a HUGE deal for me. On the XT-20, set the front M-C-S focus mode switch to M, and the AF-L button on the back, under your right thumb is now magically a Back Button Focus. I would have never bought the XT-20 without usable BBF. It isn't as fully "fleshed out" as the BBF on my D750 was, but I use this as my focus in all situations on my XT-20, except in macro work.
Loved all your images, but that pano was incredible. Good video.
I know it's been a while since this video came out, but your videos have been so helpful and informative after I discovered your channel. The eye candy delivered in each video has got me hooked! You deserve each and every subscriber plus many more. Please keep making content and I hope everything is well!
The lack of a D-Pad near the screen and the lack of a built in flash on the x-E3 gives the x-T10 the advantage. Also a better grip on the X-T20
XT20 was the right choice of the two. Great vid comparing them.
HEY!!!! Andrew....I wanted you to know, your the only one who could convince me that maybe there’s something ok about crop sensors. I can tell you have access to medium format as well as full frame. I respect your thoughts. We like shooting very similar things (old small towns/portraits/mountain settings). My dog passed away a couple months ago and we traveled to colorado to spread her ashes in her favorite place. I watched your content the entire trip (12 days). It brought me some joy during a doubly difficult time (Pandemic and everything) You have a great attitude and solid knowledge. THANK YOU SIR!!! Keep posting and keep growing! Michael Neumann - One World Productions Chicago.
I am left eye dominant and use back button focus so should be gravitating to the XE3, yet here I am sitting with my X-T20 and its DPAD in front of me. Happy as can be!
Great photo of the family sat on the bridge and all laughing!
I've had the XE3 for a few months now. Tried the XT20 in store because I missed the flip screen, nope, really could care less, the ergonomics on the XT20 compared to XE3 were a nightmare. I went in thinking I REALLY would prefer the XT20 and I made a mistake and maybe, you know, sell the other and buy the "right one." I was totally wrong. Sure, the flip screen is nice, but not enough. The XE3 feels way better in hand, and I have the means that I could easily have sold it and bought the XT20 or hell even the XT2. My gut instinct was right. I shoot street, so if landscape is your thing, the XT20 (or XT2) maybe your best bet.
I do prefer the ergonomics of the XE3 also, but only just slightly more. I can see how someone, especially a street photographer, could prefer it over the x-t20
Interesting. I had almost the exact opposite experience haha. I think I just prefer having more outward grip on the body itself. You're totally right about shooting street. Did you ever try the X100F? I think if I did a ton of street photography I might use that.
In 2024, I still keep my e3 1 and will never sell it.
I owned the X-E2 and was planing to upgrade to the X-E3. After reading the specs I decided to skip the X-E3 and go for my "always wanted to have" X-Pro2. The X-E3 is not a bad camera but Fujifilms decision to make the the X-E3 even smaller then the X-E2 plus getting rid of the D-Pad confirmed my decision.
Thanks for putting this video together. You make great points for X-T20 over X-E3. I personally went from X-E3 for sure to I just bought an X-T20. It's amazing how the shutters can mechanically sound so different even though both cameras are supposed to have the same sensor and processor.
but quality is same?
Thank you very much for your pragmatic review. I appreciated the features you evaluated on both cameras. For me personally you hit the points I am interested in. X-t20 it is.
Honestly, great video as usual.
About the magnesium/plastic thing it was understandable what you meant.
I’ve been watching a lot of reviews on youtube to convince myself that xt20 is a better choice. Now, I’m decided. Thanks for helping me!
Glad it helped!
Really helpful review. Deciding which camera to get as a lightweight carry around. Currently use professional Nikon DSLR's but want something lighter for casual use. The details provided in the video are helpful to know especially being an sometimes eyeglass wearer. The silly reasons are ok by me, shutter sounds and signatures, if it rocks your socks all the better!
Bought an XT20 this week. Wow big step up from my x100s. For me it’s about the focus speed especially when taking pics of my son.
Just bought a used xt20, cant wait to use it! Thanks for this 😄🙌
Great camera
The bluetooth connection is a deal breaker for X-E3.
It allows automatic image transfer from your camera to your phone, just right after your shot.
The photos are already in my phone's album usually when I take my phone out.
It's a nice feature for those who process photos immediately on the phone, definitely. I never use it, but could see that. Good point.
Yeah, bit in the past now, but still very useful for how to breakdown a comparison of two camera bodies, plus - of course ! - some lovely shots of the desert ! Thanks.
XtT20 is Fuji’s highest selling apse camera so there are a lot of good second hand bargains out there. Use a wrist strap..cameras don’t bounce !
Hey Andrew, very interesting review. Looking from London your 'not very special weather' looks pretty great!
I rented an XT-10 a couple of times as a backup to my XT-1 when I was doing some gig photography. I found I just couldn't get used to the smaller body size. Probably if I was using two cameras the same size it would have been ok, but switching between the two didn't work for me. My solution came in the XT-2 making the XT-1 the backup, and I wouldn't dismiss that option for anyone in need of a backup. The XT-1 is still a great camera and you can pick a used one up for a very reasonable price.
I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and best wishes for the new year!
And B&H is having some excellent sales on X-t1's right now.
Two things would make me buy the next XE...A decent eyecup that could be replaced with a third party brand and a flip screen...I would want the keypad back too.....I just prefer a keypad plus I've never seen a joystick maintain the reliability of a keypad through usage...
I doubt XE series will ever have flip screen, unfortunately.
I agree...I'm kind of getting back into Olympus after acquiring a used EM1 and I'm loving it..but when my XPRO1 starts going I'll probably upgrade to the XT-20!...That flip screen does make a difference.
I agree on your balance comment. I've never been bothered by the balance of a camera and lens combo.
Nice comparison. The flip screen is the big item here!
Great review, just got the XE3. At the end , I thought you were going to been signed by Ken wheeler 😃
If performance are the same, then just look at body design..
The deal breaker for me was the discount on the 23 f2 kit. Since both are very similar, the kit option + the joystiq sealed the deal on the Xe-3
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I bought an xt1 and returned and finally got the xt20.... my main reason was that flip out screen it is so helpful for landscape, inside canyons in awkward angles... though i mentioned xt1 the point is to emphasize on flip out screen feature.
I love the X-e3 shape and being the smallest, but the X-T20 wins for me too, because of the popup flash (great for fills) and the flippy LCD for "waist" level street photos. Now the next big question is "Is it worth the extra $$ to go for the X-T30?".
The other question, which is more my own situation, do I swap my X-PRO2 for an X-T20/30 as the backup to my primary camera, which is an X-T3? What would you do?
1) Keep the X-PRO2 with its hybrid VF
2) Get the X-T20 smaller, with flippy LCD and flash
3) Get the the X-E3 - being the smallest X camera with interchangeable lens
4) Get the X-T30 as it more closely matches the X-T3
Over to you...
#4. :) I love the increased number of phase detcrion points and video capability. #2 would be my second choic. But my needs may be different than yours.
I have an XT20 and don't miss the swivel screen at all. I use my excellent Pixel 2 XL if I ever want to vlog, not that I do much vlogging. I prefer to hold a smaller device for vlogs, Not a biggie at all!
Seeing you have the X-T2 as a main camera, it's no big surprise. I have the Pro 2 and the E3 combo, and I love it! Small but key differences no doubt, and i do kind of miss out on the non-flip screen on either model, but it's not important for me :)
Ha, I fully agree about "balance", never had any problem with it.
I *was* going to say the T20 for the viewfinder, but I just found out you cannot put an eyecup on it, so... And black over silver.
I'm getting the black t20, everyone keeps telling me to go the silver route but nah.
There is a 3rd party eye cup for the X-T20. Hit me up if you want the link or you can google it. I am seriously thinking about picking one up. In bright sunlight, this would really help.
I too have glasses...thank you for the tip about the x-e3. Going the X-t20 route. :)
yw!
I had both of these, could not get along with the X-T20. It seemed too small for my hands. The X-E3 is even smaller, but the rangefinder-like layout (with the add-on grip) fit like a glove, and it replaced my X-100T.
I think it was because I'm left-eyed, and the centered viewfinder of the X-T20 just didn't leave enough room to work the rear controls.
Entertaining, yet so informative. I like your style. Thanks for this, I'm just about to place my order for the X-T20 and you've just given me that extra confidence boost.
In 2019 I would pick the X-E3 all day long. I chose the X100F over all of them, however.
vanslem6 why xe3 over xt20?
@@xamuth AF joystick! I also really like the rangefinder styling with the EVF on the far side.
I had the opportunity to trade my Canon 6D for an X-T20, but I kept the Canon and still have it today. There was something about the T20 that I just didn't care for.
Again I picked the X100F over all of them and really, really like having a camera with a fixed lens. So much so that my travel bag has the X100F and a GA645i I picked up a few months ago.
very entertaining review! I still can't decide btwn these two....
Lordy Bess, these cameras are good. I have an X-E2 that I took along to shoot photos of a walking neighborhood carol sing. I swear, using Fuji's clunky RAF (raw) processing software the results even at ISO 6400 looked better than I'd have been able to get with my Canon 6D. I have the X-T20 as my main camera now, dumping the 6D. My thought is that the 6D with the 135/2 and 16-35/4 lenses is incredible for "special occasions" - the formal portrait shoot (wow!) and general indoor events with the 16-35. But that's also its weakness - the FF camera is just not a carry-everywhere camera, or a "poke it in your face and hope you won't notice." I can point the X-E2 at people from 1-2 feet away and they don't even notice (not being creepy, I'm talking about assignments where I'm taking pictures of friends with their permission). So stoked on Fuji - but the X-E3 relies a bit too much on touchscreen for my tastes. People need to realize also that the X-E2 body is slightly LARGER in front dimensions than the X-T20. The X-T20 is tiny, so you aren't really giving up any significant advantage in smallness compared to the X-E series.
runbei why would you state you're not being creepy, street photography is amazing.
Finally someone agrees with me, you nailed it.
I'm a tad slow but just got an x-t20 after using the x-e2 for quite a while. I have to agree with you about the shutter sound; seems crazy but it's true how good it sounds by comparison. :)
Right!?
6:45 we got him folks
FFS made me chuckle :D
I just can't deal with the Fuji white balance, and greens. But I do like to whip around my X-E2s on black and white. The weight is nice.
Also I hope that the have fixed the on/off switch from the X-E2s. Mine turns itself on ALL the time against my jacket, or elbow, or strap. I am considering taking a file to the switch to shave it down flush to the body.
To me X-E3 has a better grip, but i got the X-T20 for the video.
roman dulce why do you think the T20 has better video?
I have both the X-E2S and X-T2/Grip. I like the X-T2 with a grip but without I prefer the "rangefinder" style of the X-E2S on a camera that small. I find I use the X-E2S a lot more than I an using the X-T2. SLR style I do think I prefer a larger camera like my D750 or the X-T2 w/grip. Main reason I went with Fuji is the size and a camera as small as these I do find it is easier to use with the viewfinder way off on the left side.
I had an X-T20 for a few weeks before giving it to My ex and instead ordering an X-T2.
Why? - you would ask Me. Because after a few years with the excellent (despite a few shortcomings) Sony A7r, the X-T20 felt a bit like a very cute toy. The size may be one thing (isn't a small size supposed to be a good thing? Apparently, not always), but I am sure there was more: it didn't feel professional enough. I can't quite explain it, but somehow these manufacturers do manage to make entry-level cameras appear entry-level next to their [semi-]professional brethren, despite a number of distinct advantages the X-T20 held over the X-T2, such as the touchscreen and the touch-to-focus feature, the pop-up flash (yes, the industry wants you to believe it is a useless gimmick for serious photographers, but the reality is having one is better than having none, and if you diffuse its effect somewhat with something like a piece of paper or bounce it against a low white ceiling or a reflector / styrofoam sheet, or use it as a fill flash in street photography, in many cases it will contribute to a better output, given the subject isn't far. Remember, under the reign of kings of stagnancy (i.e., Canon / Nikon), the industry had you believe mirrorless systems were a joke and articulating screens were for the uninitiated, until Sony (and Fuji, and Panasonic and Olympus to a lesser extent) proved Canon / Nikon wrong, compelling these two dinosaurs to adapt to the maturing market.
The X-T2 felt much better in My hands than the X-T20. Its larger and at least ostensibly better quality viewfinder and the liveview screen (I don't know what it is - superior screen technologies or some sort of an optical illusion?) matched the quality of Sony A7r's, if not exceeded it by a hair. It is a shame the X-T2's beautiful display is not touch-sensitive. I also prefer the 3-axis tilt of the X-T2's display: it isn't quite perfect, but certainly handy for portraiture or architectural photography.
You see, on paper the X-T2 and the X-T20 appear to have the same display, but in reality (excepting lack of touch-sensitivity in the X-T2!), the X-T2's display appears distinctly more professional - sharper, more vibrant, less washed-out... Same with the viewfinder and thus the whole shooting experience.
Another observation: while the DPreview image quality comparison shows the two (if I recall correctly) to render identical quality images under identical conditions, somehow in My experience, the X-T2 appeared to impress more with its output. Whether it was indeed so - or just appeared to be, owing to the X-T2's more professional handling and the better liveview and viewfinder rendition - I do not know (have to test them side by side with identical lenses to find it out). Either way, that's the impression using both the camera imparted on Me.
I recall a very similar experience using the Canon EOS 40D after about a year with the 350D back in 2006-2007: in a year time with the latter I hadn't managed to produce an image to be proud of. Days after acquiring the 40D I managed to outdo Myself during My first book cover shoot. [Semi-]Professional equipment has an uncanny way of inspiring the photographer that their entry-level brethren simply lack, even if the image quality achievable is roughly on par. That said, I also will add (and contradict Myself in doing so) that the 5D Mark II I acquired a couple of years later, despite its larger sensor and better resolution did not particularly impress, though the mirrorless Sony and the Fuji (and even the Samsung NX300 I procured for the girlfriend second-hand, a week ago for as mere €135 for the body) did very much!
What's also remarkable - is that the X-A5 (a Bayer sensor Fuji) I bought for the ex, then returned and gave her the X-T20, took such horrible images that I was left suspecting it was an interchangeable 1/2.7" sensor camera. The imagines on its display were terrible, and looked no better imported into the computer! I am suspecting, Fuji has some sort of a fake sensor with only a tiny portion of its APS-C surface actually collecting light. Perhaps to showcase strong suits of the X-Trans sensor, they hamper X-A -series sensors and dumb down processor algorithms, because none of the APS-C (or even Micro Four Thirds) cameras I have experience shooting, produced such insufferable rubbish! I'm talking noise and extreme lack of detail phone cameras back in the first couple of years of the millennium produced! My findings contradict the DPreview image quality tests to a iota.
Have you ever shot with the X-A5?
Back to the topic, I think if the X-E3 had the quality of the X-T2's display, I'd keep it. However, the lack of an articulating screen (at least, it's touch!) and its small viewfinder are substantial compromises. I like the X-E3 design, but its lack of screen articulation is off-putting.
Now, imagine a camera (today, not in 5 years!) with a 40MP+ for APS-C (or 70MP+ for Full-Frame, or a 100MP+ Medium-format) BSI X-Trans or Sony sensor, a fully articulating touchscreen (that also flips 180 degrees for self-portraits, or a detachable magnetic one), a small integrated bounce-able flash to complement its hotshoe, obviously no AA filter (no camera has to have it!), 7+ stops of in-body image-stabilisation and Pixel Shift, 15+ stops of dynamic range, medium- and small-RAW output options (maybe even user-definable) along with full-res RAWs (all losslessly compressed, through implementation of vastly superior to current compression algorithms), in roughly the size- and form factor of the X-E3, but sporting a twice larger viewfinder! $1.000 for the APS-C one, $1800 for the full-frame and $3.000 for the Medium-Format one (the size of the X-Pro2)! Those would be cameras to beat right now; they'd put the likes of Sony's flagships to shame, not to mention Canon / Nikon...
Excuse My long rant and the overly-fantastical conclusion of My post.
Hi Andrew, good video. I'm also a eyeglasses wearer, and I understood the issue with the presence sensor on the EVF.
Besides that, is the smaller size of the EVF (in comparison with X-T2) an issue in your opinion? Could you see the image entirely and comfortably?
Bang on about the shutter sound, my wife’s x100f has an awful shutter sound!!! Whereas my xt2, BEAUTIFUL!
Yi ZHU The X100F has virtually no shutter sound! If your wife's X100F is making a sound, it's the electronic shutter sound that you can turn off :)
Y Z well duh, it's a leaf shutter.
Hey D&A (DNA ?!?), I recently bought the XT20 along with the 18-55 Fuji lens. I haven't used them much yet, as I am still in 'RTFM' mode. I hope I'll be as happy with my combo as you seem to be with yours. Hope to see you doing more with the XT20 sometime. Love the location !!! Cheers !
I never rtfm. Gets me into trouble when I review gear, regularly. ;) Definitely more x-t20 videos. I seem to be grabbing it more often than x-t2 these days.
Thx for the response. I appreciate that you take the time ! I do have to rely deeply on the manual, because I am not pro and have much less time to go out and shoot. Above that, the weather here in Belgium isn't always that great... I am used to my 80D, but I think I'll need some more time before i can confidently take the Fuji out for a spin.
I must say that I am also quite surprised by the different ways people go to the XT20 or leave it... We both like it because of the size (right?!) and the person I got mine from sold it because his hands were too big (he now owns a XT2).
I also can't wait to try out the film simulations. I always shot Fuji in the film era (Canon Eos 650).
Have a nice rest of the weekend !!
Really cool vid, Andy! Thx
What a good review presentation!
You can always wipe the text off! And go for the XE-3!! Nice video!
:)
great video as always
From an ergonomics point of view, I prefer the X-T20 :-)
11:55
I can't go back to a fixed screen... have had it since D5300, tried cameras without it...really messed up my shooting style. need it for street and landscape. Will stick with XT ** series unless an XE4 comes out with tilt.
The X-E3 shutter sounded more quiet.
While I was watching it I thought it was obvious you meant the Magnesium alloy was really thin and 'plasticky' sounding, not that it was plastic... what is it people are having trouble with?
Is it me, or does the X-T20 shutter sound like (my old) OM10 film camera?
xe3 has better af than xt20 but the fixed lcd was a terrible idea :\ But both (and not only fuji cameras) have 1.04M dot LCD, I wish everyone would finally make it at least 1.2 as a standard these days...
Your edits look insane!
Thanks man
super helpful, any review of xt30?
Torn between these 2. I prefer tilt screen on y2k but i like the long shutter of 15min? On e3
Just asign the back buttom focus to the rear dial wheel which you can push. At least on your XT 2. That made it for me.
Yeah I guess. Don't like how it feels personally.
Hi im' getting an x e3 tomorrow I would like to know if I get an adapter to use my FF Nikon lenses will my 15-30 become 22.5 -45 ?
Nice work, thanks!!
i would prefer xe3 over t-20 simply because it is the latest out of two cameras, it has Bluetooth technology and it has a better battery life compare to t-20
Interesting. Something to compare for next time.
What do you think about xe3 compare to xt100 in 2019? My main purpose is just for capturing pictures with family while travelling
I heavily prefer the ergonomics of the X-T20 to the X-E3. I've put grips on both of them too to give them a tad more girth. I really like them both for filming.
Brilliant. Thank you.
I agree, on some Fuji, the shutter is annoyingly vibrate too much & produce ugly sound.
im about to buy one of these cameras, have the same camera bag, the same type of glasses ans wearing a cap.
So you gave the rose to the XT20... :-)
Definitely :)
SPOILER ALERT DAMNIT!!!!1
But is one big different between this two ,the T-Mode for long exposure is X-T20=30 Seconds and the X-E3=3 Min or maybe longer.
So the military exchange has the xt20 in a bundle that includes an extended grip, memory card, the xc 16-50 variable aperture AND a 50-230 variable aperture lens for 897(tax free too). I think I was leaning more towards an XE3 with the 18-55mm kit and then pick up a 27mm pancake. The xc lenses dont sell for much but with selling my d3300 and lenses I can come into the kit I described for basically 1000 dollars and some change. Does that make the xt a no brainer, or is the size difference THAT significant, from what I can tell, both cameras with a pancake would go into a messenger bag or coat pocket half way easily enough.
thanks for the review
At first, I thought you'd keep xe3 since you're already have xt2, and keeping xt20 would be redundant. Anyway, great video talking both pro and con about the cams. I'm enjoy watching as a happy xt20 owner.
Thanks Titvirak. Mostly it's a backup camera. But I also like taking it out when I need something as small as possible. So it's not totally redundant.
what I've meant to say is the styling, but I've got your points. Thanks for clearing it up.
SPOILER ALERT
In photography which is best fujifilm xe-3 or sony a6000
That last comment was enough, the 20 would have to go.
Interesting. Personally, I could never let joystick go. And that shutter sound... after you had been married for several months or years to AK-47 every other shutter sound is a Whitney Houston song...
The joystick is nice. Interesting perspective on the ak47 ;)
That final reason was too funny.
It seems that you miss the XT-2 :D
Great video!
The X-t2 was in a bag in my car. :) Wasn't missing it at all. I only miss it when I want to change ISO a lot.
looking at buying a Fuji mirror less...for portraits and street photography? omg so many which one. I do children and families
I can't really answer that for you. But x-t20 would be my first if I was just moving into the system.
Thankyou, I was def thinking about this one. Does it always have to be used on a tri pod?
No. Not at all
I bought the x-t20 waiting on UPs today! :) thankyou
Cool. Happy shooting!
Their cameras are exceptionally great, but isn't there a single UI designer in that company? There is like 5 different font styles in the second menu at 3:48 XD
Looking for something smaller to have in my daily carry- Been debating these 2 as well- attracted to the XE3 because of the different look, but thanks to my wifes A6000, I don't think I can go back to a non tilty screen- good vid as always
Exactly
I really want the XE3 but I am gonna get the XT2
keep them both !
Just bought an XT20 for $300 to pair with my XC lenses and XT100. I’m a cheap ass but I feel like I’ve got all the Fuji gear I need for
good choice: flip screen is a must have; and shutter sound :) - But I guess X-E1 shuttersound is more horrible than that X-E3!
What's the X-T20 shuttersound compared to X-T2? you own both, I just the latter!
I love my XT20 as well
So what does"blue tooth" in the camera allow you to do with it? Can you upload pictures directly from the camera to Google photos or icloud without first transferring them to your phone or computer?
I have both...
which is better XT100 vs XT20? Thank you
That hat is awesome, where is it from?
Search for the UA-cam channel Left Coast media.