That Bon Ami trick was used on propane engines with chrome rings Propane doesn't have enough carbon to break in the rings hence the use of the abrasive Bon Ami
The original use of the "Bon Ami" trick was Caterpillar. They had a powder that was originally used to seat chrome rings in their products. Heavy duty chrome rings were used in extremely dusty and dirty environments because they were resistant to wear, and they had a very difficult time seating those rings. They came up with that powder (which had some Borax in it) to help seat those rings. Racers immediately picked up on it an started using Borax powder indiscriminately (in whatever form they could buy it) to help seat their chrome rings. Unfortunately, a lot of people started using it on cast iron rings because they had seen racers use it, which destroyed a lot of motors. It should never be used on a motor today, because chrome rings are relatively rare anymore.
The 300 6cyl ford has timing gears instead of a chain. You can buy straight up gears for it. I put a aluminum racing set on mine. The cam gear needs to be pressed on.
@migmadmarine they are good engines but that timing gear system isn't as great as one might think. The cam gear is made out of some kinda fiber so it's soft & it wears while the steel crank gear stays in good shape. They do fail & that's why I had to change mine. But you can get away with only buying a new cam gear & that's it, just reuse the crank gear. Also the cam gear is just pressed onto the cam. You can thread a bolt in to the cam to press it on but the bolt cannot stay to hold it. No room under the cover. I bought a alluminum racing type gear instead of the factory fiber gear but I couldn't press it on with just a bolt, so I had to pull the cam out of the engine completely & press it on with a press. Kind of a pain just for a cam gear. But I agree, they are great engines. That one I got is still going today with over 250k on it.
I ran an Edelbrock water/alcohol injection on my towing engine.....it really worked well, allowing me to carry good advanced timing and run the gas of the 70's. When I finally tore down the engine to "freshen" it.....there was absolutely NO carbon in the combustion chambers. Years later, I ran the Holley version of the water injection....same result. In turning from water to "steam" the molecule expands 1700 times.....that's FREE horsepower and the reason steam engines have so much torque. To combat "vapor lock" I installed a big GM electric fuel pump inside the frame rail and wired up a switch on the dash. Whenever I detected either "vapor lock" or fuel shortage I would kick on that pump. I routed it thru the existing mechanical fuel pump....and used a fuel pressure regulator. It worked fine. I assume Ed was running the 4412 Holley....good carb. I had the AFB 625 CFM 4-bbl. With the headers, 2.5 inch pipes/H-pipe and Flowmaster mufflers, recrurved distributor I could get 11 mpg towing a 24 foot Great Divide camper at 6000 to 9000 ft above sea level. Empty and not towing, the half-ton Ford would make 17 or more mpg at 70-75 mph.....I kept books on it and knew every drop of fuel/oil I put in it.
Ive modded a venturi between both sides of vovo penta wakeboard boat engines to evacuate the the water and keep it from getting back towards the cyl heafs. It works!
The marine engines are using heat exchangers with sea water running through them to cool the fuel before it hits the injectors, diesels do it to the retirn fuel before it goes to the tank.
The ford 300, trick was get 3 intakes and cut center2 port sectionput cap/ plug were openings, used 3/4 heater hose to balance sections. Back in 70's guys from Norfolk ran Chevy 250+ block with 292 crank, end of night nova with 6 and Camaro with "350" ran 3 times to take night. Ford and Chevy 6's ran good, always liked extra timing.
Just watched this and wow been looking for this type of info on youtube for years!.. loved all the old tricks. Big ? For ed....how have camshafts for flathead mopars improved since 50s
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
I've had two oil pump failures in my entire career. The '65 Riviera had reduced pressure shown by the oil light and the GMC pickup was a rattle trap before it seized up the 454. Neither engine had a problem with the pickup tube becoming detached. Buick had a nylon cam gear that shredded before my friend ever got the car. After he had it a few months he told me he was concerned about the oil light coming on. I told him we better crawl under it and replace the pump. When we got the pan off, we discovered the trouble in the bottom of the pan and inside the pickup screen. I told him that we might as well swap the pump and clean out the nylon shards. It used a press fit tube and I installed it low so the pan could position its depth using a couple washers taped to the pickup and no gasket, we put the pan in place and it had minimal clearance with the pan installed. Of course the washers were removed for final assembly. That was a success story. The GMC 454 was a seized engine caused by a lifter retaining clip breaking and working its way into the oil pump and getting pulled into the gears, locking the pump and seizing the engine. No warning signals were caught by the guy driving the truck.
Olds offered a .921" lifter on some Toronados and 442s I think, even bigger than the MoPar (and AMC) .904" lifters. I think Studebaker used .904" and even 1.00" solid lifters, too.
G;day from Australia. The Ausie Barra, has next to nothing in common with the old American design. I think it was redesigned 3 times since 1978. My question for Ed regards, advancing/retarding the camshaft. What is the range of cam degrees, one may desire? I'm currently assembling an old Holden L6. Cam has 23 teeth, so to bump it over one tooth would be 15.6 degrees. Seems a lot to me, I lined the dots correctly. Thank you
About the marking exaust pipes, the crayons i think hes talking about thoes temp indicator crayons you can get in diffrent temps from 200⁰f to steel welding temps.
on DIESEL ENGINES they sometime use TALCUM POWDER to break the cylinder glaze on diesel engine that runs too many hours on idle speed, but you have to be careful on how much you use if it is done the right way you will REDUCE the amount of oil consumption on diesel engines that smokes.
Bruce Sizemore drag raced a Maverick with a fuel injected 300 six with special cylinder head. I believe it was 2 Boss 302 or 2 Cleveland heads welded together........
4:20 i just want to point out the difference in the importance of exhaust between 2 and 4 stroke motors. On a 4 stroke u really cant screw it up straight pipes work fine. 2 stroke is a different beast altogether its optimal functioning relies on 2 important factors pressurized intake air and an exaust tuned to suck out as much exaust as fast as possible, ideally limiting the amount of fuelmix that goes unburned into exaust, this is achieved thru pulse tuning the exaust.
We have GM guys have the atlas 4200 inline 6 out of trailblazer,envoy,Rainer etc. Check out channel Nivlac57 just broke 1k hp swapped into a 5th gen Camaro. He made over 700 on pretty much stock internals.
Does ed take calls from enthusiasts to share info from noncustomers? I am putting a plan for a hopped up flathead mopar . Hard to find people that can help
Also Ed if this is a true case why would a smaller cubic inch engine doesn't like to much compression vs a bigger stroke engine like 360 sprint car vs 410 sprint car. Or a 2 barrel 360 like is it possible that a 2 barrel 360 like only 14.5:1 compression if more would it make less power. And why would a 410 sprint car love well over 16:1 what's the science behind that or is even any of that true
Ask ed where else we can learn these old basic speed secrets to increase cylinder filling on old flathead mopars with less than efficient intake flow. How do we get more than 100hp from 218cu inch which is a 3.8liter
Periodic drag racer question...what is required and is it beneficial to run alcohol methanol or ? Compared to gas by using signif bigger carb jets on a flathead for.these fuels..just for racing and then switch back to normal jets for street. I understand the alcohol fuels add oxygen to the I take that gas doesn't do thereby allowing poor intake systems to make more power..just for 'race days. Ha. The basis is that air/oxygen from carbs plus the oxygen released from alcohol yields more burn , torque and power. Or is this hogwash
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
Ed is so cool
That Bon Ami trick was used on propane engines with chrome rings Propane doesn't have enough carbon to break in the rings hence the use of the abrasive Bon Ami
Thanks for the info, that makes sense!
@@randypozdnikoff4099 propane is great,115 octane,
The original use of the "Bon Ami" trick was Caterpillar. They had a powder that was originally used to seat chrome rings in their products. Heavy duty chrome rings were used in extremely dusty and dirty environments because they were resistant to wear, and they had a very difficult time seating those rings. They came up with that powder (which had some Borax in it) to help seat those rings. Racers immediately picked up on it an started using Borax powder indiscriminately (in whatever form they could buy it) to help seat their chrome rings. Unfortunately, a lot of people started using it on cast iron rings because they had seen racers use it, which destroyed a lot of motors. It should never be used on a motor today, because chrome rings are relatively rare anymore.
Thanks for teaching me, very interesting!
The 300 6cyl ford has timing gears instead of a chain. You can buy straight up gears for it. I put a aluminum racing set on mine. The cam gear needs to be pressed on.
That’s interesting, thanks for sharing! 👍
Another reason these engines are darn near indestructible
@migmadmarine they are good engines but that timing gear system isn't as great as one might think. The cam gear is made out of some kinda fiber so it's soft & it wears while the steel crank gear stays in good shape. They do fail & that's why I had to change mine. But you can get away with only buying a new cam gear & that's it, just reuse the crank gear. Also the cam gear is just pressed onto the cam. You can thread a bolt in to the cam to press it on but the bolt cannot stay to hold it. No room under the cover. I bought a alluminum racing type gear instead of the factory fiber gear but I couldn't press it on with just a bolt, so I had to pull the cam out of the engine completely & press it on with a press. Kind of a pain just for a cam gear. But I agree, they are great engines. That one I got is still going today with over 250k on it.
Absolutely love your interactions w Ed. Thx for sharing
I'm glad you're enjoying it!
Really enjoy Ed.
This is all gold
I ran an Edelbrock water/alcohol injection on my towing engine.....it really worked well, allowing me to carry good advanced timing and run the gas of the 70's. When I finally tore down the engine to "freshen" it.....there was absolutely NO carbon in the combustion chambers. Years later, I ran the Holley version of the water injection....same result. In turning from water to "steam" the molecule expands 1700 times.....that's FREE horsepower and the reason steam engines have so much torque. To combat "vapor lock" I installed a big GM electric fuel pump inside the frame rail and wired up a switch on the dash. Whenever I detected either "vapor lock" or fuel shortage I would kick on that pump. I routed it thru the existing mechanical fuel pump....and used a fuel pressure regulator. It worked fine. I assume Ed was running the 4412 Holley....good carb. I had the AFB 625 CFM 4-bbl. With the headers, 2.5 inch pipes/H-pipe and Flowmaster mufflers, recrurved distributor I could get 11 mpg towing a 24 foot Great Divide camper at 6000 to 9000 ft above sea level. Empty and not towing, the half-ton Ford would make 17 or more mpg at 70-75 mph.....I kept books on it and knew every drop of fuel/oil I put in it.
Man i could listen to this guy all day.makes me want to build a motor.
Ive modded a venturi between both sides of vovo penta wakeboard boat engines to evacuate the the water and keep it from getting back towards the cyl heafs. It works!
The marine engines are using heat exchangers with sea water running through them to cool the fuel before it hits the injectors, diesels do it to the retirn fuel before it goes to the tank.
The ford 300, trick was get 3 intakes and cut center2 port sectionput cap/ plug were openings, used 3/4 heater hose to balance sections. Back in 70's guys from Norfolk ran Chevy 250+ block with 292 crank, end of night nova with 6 and Camaro with "350" ran 3 times to take night. Ford and Chevy 6's ran good, always liked extra timing.
Thanks for sharing this! 👍
Another great video. Thanks guys!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
I've seen a guy polish out a laquer paint job with comet and a buffing wheel! It also workes as a valve grinding compound. Its pummice and
Just watched this and wow been looking for this type of info on youtube for years!.. loved all the old tricks. Big ? For ed....how have camshafts for flathead mopars improved since 50s
Great! and I'll ask Ed! 👍
Ed, would a couple fuel lifters between the pump and card reduce the pulse enough. Mike
Good question I will ask Ed
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
I'll Ask Ed!
Oil pumps on small block big block good idea to spot weld pickup tube on pump since it’s press fit.
Good call! 👍
I've had two oil pump failures in my entire career. The '65 Riviera had reduced pressure shown by the oil light and the GMC pickup was a rattle trap before it seized up the 454. Neither engine had a problem with the pickup tube becoming detached. Buick had a nylon cam gear that shredded before my friend ever got the car. After he had it a few months he told me he was concerned about the oil light coming on. I told him we better crawl under it and replace the pump. When we got the pan off, we discovered the trouble in the bottom of the pan and inside the pickup screen. I told him that we might as well swap the pump and clean out the nylon shards. It used a press fit tube and I installed it low so the pan could position its depth using a couple washers taped to the pickup and no gasket, we put the pan in place and it had minimal clearance with the pan installed. Of course the washers were removed for final assembly. That was a success story. The GMC 454 was a seized engine caused by a lifter retaining clip breaking and working its way into the oil pump and getting pulled into the gears, locking the pump and seizing the engine. No warning signals were caught by the guy driving the truck.
Thanks for sharing this. 👍
Olds offered a .921" lifter on some Toronados and 442s I think, even bigger than the MoPar (and AMC) .904" lifters. I think Studebaker used .904" and even 1.00" solid lifters, too.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
Ed has a encyclopedic brain. My paternal gpa was like that with welding
G;day from Australia.
The Ausie Barra, has next to nothing in common with the old American design. I think it was redesigned 3 times since 1978.
My question for Ed regards, advancing/retarding the camshaft.
What is the range of cam degrees, one may desire?
I'm currently assembling an old Holden L6. Cam has 23 teeth, so to bump it over one tooth would be 15.6 degrees. Seems a lot to me, I lined the dots correctly.
Thank you
That is a great question. I will ask Ed. 👍
Saw a guy pore Bon Ami down Chevy 301 in 1961.
Thought rings not seating. Finally pulled heads.
Pistons too small.
About the marking exaust pipes, the crayons i think hes talking about thoes temp indicator crayons you can get in diffrent temps from 200⁰f to steel welding temps.
That sounds very possible!
Love the channel . I think your microphones are to close sounds muffled . Thx !
Thanks for letting me know, that’s helpful feedback!
Australia had 250ci inline 6in ford falcon , Holden had various ci size inline 6
on DIESEL ENGINES they sometime use TALCUM POWDER to break the cylinder glaze on diesel engine that runs too many hours on idle speed, but you have to be careful on how much you use if it is done the right way you will REDUCE the amount of oil consumption on diesel engines that smokes.
Thanks for the tip!
Bruce Sizemore drag raced a Maverick with a fuel injected 300 six with special cylinder head. I believe it was 2 Boss 302 or 2 Cleveland heads welded together........
That’s a unique build!
are hoodies available . love the channel . 😎
I'm not sure on merch yet, but thanks for the suggestion!
@@BarryTsGarage no rush , but I'll be waiting 😀
You can find some of Ed’s hats on eBay… Just search for Barryts 👍
4:20 i just want to point out the difference in the importance of exhaust between 2 and 4 stroke motors. On a 4 stroke u really cant screw it up straight pipes work fine. 2 stroke is a different beast altogether its optimal functioning relies on 2 important factors pressurized intake air and an exaust tuned to suck out as much exaust as fast as possible, ideally limiting the amount of fuelmix that goes unburned into exaust, this is achieved thru pulse tuning the exaust.
Love the videos, but all I can see is that fuel line 😂❤
😂👍
Ford 300 Clifford research in socal has everything u need for that engine
Dry sump is way to go when you start spinning 8-9k v8s.
Agreed! 👍
H pipe and headers help scavenging in the exhaust.
We have GM guys have the atlas 4200 inline 6 out of trailblazer,envoy,Rainer etc. Check out channel Nivlac57 just broke 1k hp swapped into a 5th gen Camaro. He made over 700 on pretty much stock internals.
Very cool!
Water and methanol injection was common in ww2 era aircraft engines
I had issue with a 396 my oil piick up fell off.
Oh no
Bon Ami French for Good Friend. BTW, an actress on Happy Days has the surname Goodfriend.
Does ed take calls from enthusiasts to share info from noncustomers? I am putting a plan for a hopped up flathead mopar . Hard to find people that can help
I'll Ask Ed and post an answer 👍
H pipe also has to be placed at a certain distance in regards to the heat being generated to get the best savaging effect Is this true ED?
I is true, you paint the pipes and run it hard just a bit. Find the spot the paint has burned of the most. Put cross pipe there.
@terrypikaart4394 thanks Terry!
where do we submit our questions for ed?
You can just write your question in the comments for the video. Thank you so much for your interest.
@@BarryTsGarage what is his thoughts on the pete jackson timing gears robbing HP compared to a double roller timing chain?
I'll ask Ed 👍
Can I get an ed smith hat?
Coming soon!
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I love older people, I wish I was born in their generation
Water ,,, water methanol injection was used in WW2 fighter aircraft . In war emergency power .
Crank case evac
Also Ed if this is a true case why would a smaller cubic inch engine doesn't like to much compression vs a bigger stroke engine like 360 sprint car vs 410 sprint car. Or a 2 barrel 360 like is it possible that a 2 barrel 360 like only 14.5:1 compression if more would it make less power. And why would a 410 sprint car love well over 16:1 what's the science behind that or is even any of that true
OK, I hear you, I will ask Ed
A Dyke’s ring was L shaped some old chainsaws from the 70’s tried that type for better sealing I guess they tried it with automobile engines too.
That’s interesting, I’m going to ask Ed about that.
Ask ed where else we can learn these old basic speed secrets to increase cylinder filling on old flathead mopars with less than efficient intake flow. How do we get more than 100hp from 218cu inch which is a 3.8liter
I'll ask Ed in an upcoming video
They make offset keys.
Yes they do 👍
Periodic drag racer question...what is required and is it beneficial to run alcohol methanol or ? Compared to gas by using signif bigger carb jets on a flathead for.these fuels..just for racing and then switch back to normal jets for street. I understand the alcohol fuels add oxygen to the I take that gas doesn't do thereby allowing poor intake systems to make more power..just for 'race days. Ha. The basis is that air/oxygen from carbs plus the oxygen released from alcohol yields more burn , torque and power. Or is this hogwash
I'll ask Ed in an upcoming interview 👍
Some many words are not understandable because the sound - words are so blurry. It's not my speaker because other videos are clear.
Barry, are you related to Al Bundy ?
Ed do flathead mopars 6 cyl benefit by two ..3into1 headers that merge into one tail pipe. Or what do u suggest for best intake scavenging? Or do the flathead 6s not benefit by this type of exhaust
I’ll ask Ed