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@@lordfezerellii Of course. Gender representation is necessary though for many children to understand others who are different from what is considered “normal”.
I have a problem with adult activity being put in children's cartoons no matter what YOUR lifestyle choices are‼️‼️‼️ STOP IMPOSING ADULT ACTIVITY ON CHILDREN ‼️‼️‼️PREDICTORS ‼️‼️‼️
@@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 well, Alex wanted to make a scene where cupid makes two old woman fall in love but disney didn't allow it so insted he decided to make Mable's sweater rainbow
I still remember when sailor moon was dubbed into English they made edits and cuts to make sailor Neptune and sailor Uranus cousins. I could tell something was off so I looked it up online and saw in the original anime they were partners and lovers. Then Sailor stars was supposedly never dubbed because they didn't knew how american audiences would handle the sailor stars being one gender when transformed (female) and disguised as another when not transformed on earth (male).
@@taxevader5386 there was also a trans woman I believe that was one of their villains in the later seasons and two of the main villains for season 1 were in a gay relationship but that was only in the 1st anime I believe
I grew up with Steven Universe. When I was young and saw that prison break episode I realized that I wasn't the only one in the world who was gay. I expected first hand why representation in media matters.
when i was young i didnt know that gays exist even tho i am one back then when i was 15 or younger To be honest i just didnt care if us gay are not represented cause we do exist THE WORLD KNOWS that we exist and we are a threat their belives ..
Even though this was an year ago, peppa pig got lesbian parents now, it’s clear because there child wrote a picture of them and it was the CUTEST thing EVER
Well they don't technically have them in reality they do like how garrnet ,pearl and amythiest and saphire while ruby to me honestly seems to be shown or is more male
@@he96765 in that case, people should refer to groups by each person, or say shes' hes' or theys' if the whole group is the same gender. Because they is a pronoun, and it "always" implys gender, so using they/them on that context is just wrong
I love all of these examples of representation from my childhood, like Him, Bugs Bunny in Drag, the gems (although they’re genderless), etc. It shouldn’t be prominent to young kids, but it should be something that some of them relate to. Just like romance. Romance and sexuality should never be a huge part of television. It should be treated like a normal thing
I feel like the internet romanticizes stuff to much WITH LITERALLY EVERY CHARACTER BEING SHIPPED WITH ANOTHER. I doesn't matter if it is a show about object OR FRIKIN GODZILLA MOVIES. PEOPLE WILL FIND A WAY TO FORCE ROMANCE IN SOME WEIRD WAY. I remember being shocked when dora was not shipped with anybody in the cartoon.
Representation is important, but not obligatory in all forms of entertainment. There can be shows that are diverse or shows that aren't diverse, but they can still be entertaining.
I'm watching this on the bus, constantly hiding the screen... I live in Australia, I shouldn't have to feel like hiding this, nor should anyone else anywhere around the world
@@cryptidnip I'm aware, I'm talking about the general feeling of shame inherited from the intolerant people around me growing up. That's something that'll slowly erase in time, but it's still not a great feeling to have no matter where you are
Thanks for appropriating and ruining words like 'queer' 'gay' 'non-binary' 'gender' 'straight' 'sexuality' etc. Now Politicized, these words have lost their proper meaning, restricting, rather than freeing language.
homosexuality as adult topics? come on, I grew up in a family that never said anything bad about homosexuals, nor did mention them, and for my 5-year-old self, making a male doll kiss another male doll was as normal as two female doing it or a man and woman. I even have doll that sometimes were man and sometimes were women. it's not an adult thing, children understand, even better than most adults, that it's just love.
We need to stop pushing people for their beliefs, and actually look into it. They're just being more happy that way. There's nothing wrong with that. They just do it to be happier, that's it. Not for some weird messed up heckish intentions.
I love the fact that this is happening, especially since the shows aren’t trying to push it in peoples face, but trying to get them to understand that just because one character is lgbt, it doesn’t change the whole show
As a child when I saw 2 guys kissing, I took it as a joke. When I watched The Powerpuff girls, I had no idea what and who Him was. When I asked mom 'what's a lesbian?' She said 'woman who is atracted to women.' And then I asked myself ' It is?!' as a straight person and child.
I hate how parents try to hide the lgbtq+ from kids. I went through a small crisis with being called a girl when I was 7, but I didn’t think it was normal for anyone to feel that way. So I kept quiet about it. Now I’ll say proudly: Hi I’m Tom you can called me Tommy. My pronouns are he/they/it.
If Princess Bubblegum & Marceline the Vampire Queen from Adventure Time are an item together, wouldn't that also make Prince Gumball & Marshall Lee the Vampire King from the alternate universe an item too??
i find it kind of ironic that the main effect of villains being queer-coded for decades in kids animation is that a lot of queer people grew up loving villains and not being sure why
I feel even weird to watch a full out make out scene with my parents and i'm an adult. I usually take my phone or get up to go to the toilet. It's way too awkward.
The evil enemy Berg Katse of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman [1972] (brought over as Battle of the Planets [1978]) was a great character both male and female!
i love it how the episode Garnet got married was the same one where Yellow Diamond and Blue Diamond attacked. Rebecca really said "you cant skip this episode" and went lmao
This video shouldn't have been called "in children's animation," it should have been "in western children's animation." The main characters in Patalliro were in a clear gay relationship all the way back in the 70s.
Yesss, although the anime itself was from the early '80s, the manga was the '70s. Either way, it's considered the first anime to show characters openly in that manner.
Rebecca Sugar putting Ruby in the Wedding Dress was the biggest passive aggressive middle finger to the countries that tried making Ruby male to stop the LGBT representation. And Ruby totally rocked the dress by the way, what a queen.
The video is implying that she was always a lesbian or coded as such and that is simply untrue. She was created in the 1960's and, because of the prevailing mindset, it is almost certain that she was not designed to be queer in any way shape or form. Now Scooby Doo has many different versions and iterations that are always exploring new takes on the character. Because of this, it's impossible to say there is a "definitive" or "canon" version of the character that applies across all continuities. In some versions Velma is sarcastic, in other versions she's timid. Sometimes she's white, but one time she was Asian. This variation can, theoretically, also apply to her sexuality. So it is theoretically possible for Velma to be straight in one continuity and gay or bi in another. But again, at best this only applies to that specific continuity. You can't say Mystery Incorporated Velma is gay and therefore Velma in all Scooby Doo media is gay, to assert so would simply be untrue. So now the question is has Velma ever been labeled as queer in any official Scooby Doo media. And the answer to this is honestly no. The closest they got was in Mystery Incorporated where a producer said Velma was gay 7+ years after the show finished airing. Now there is debate about whether something is official if it's confirmed outside the show in a tweet or interview. In my book, the answer is no, if you want something to be canon it needs to explicitly be proven in the show. Not to mention anyone can say something after the fact, but that doesn't mean it was true when that product was actually airing. But even if you don't have a view on canon as strict as me, I think labeling Velma as gay in a social media post completely defeats the point of representation. Representation is about seeing yourself or other people in media and if you need to reveal the truth 7 years later for people to realize that a character was written as gay, that's not representation. Because the fact is, there was nothing in that show that ever confirmed Velma was gay. Ironically, the show makes a much stronger case for Velma being straight given how much screentime is dedicated to showing her relationship with Shaggy. So that is my absurdly long comment about Velma and the whole issue of her being gay. Will Velma be written as gay in the future? Maybe. In fact, WB has hinted that's the plan. But has she been written as gay before? A _very_ generous kinda. At best, Velma was written with the intention of being gay in a single iteration of the tv show but it was so poorly communicated that you wouldn't know it just by watching the show. *TL;DR You cannot label Velma as gay because there are many versions of her and the video is not approaching the issue with enough nuance. In many versions, Velma is straight. At best, the character was gay in a single tv show but even that is debatably canon.*
Not a single mention of Sailor Moon and the atrocious way they treated Jadeite, Haruka & Michiru, Fisheye or the Sailor Strars in the US localisation? I'm german where they kept the characters queer sometimes. So Sailor Moon was the earliest cartoon where I was taking notice of queer people as a child.
I remember seeing "Ferdinand The Bull" as a kid. I was always much more peaceful and quiet than the other boys. And seeing this muscular, strong bull being gentle and loving flowers was for me like: "There is no rule in nature that one thing is not combineable with the other!".
Same here. When I was little my mom would let me paint my nails (My dad and her would fight about it) but I did it, and my mom loved me every step of my path :). I’m gay, and a have the most lovely mom :)… I don’t speak to my dad, and that kinda hurts… To end on a happy note my mom used to be called ✨The Faghag✨ because all of her friends were gay, trans or lesbian Now all but 1 of her children are in one way or another LGBTQ+ 💀, and she’s proud of all of us 😊.
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 that's such a wonderful story. So many stories queer people tell are sad, because life is hard for many of us, so it's amazing to see stories like yours!
Title should be “in the US” In Latin America, for the most part (or from what I remember), they didn’t care if cartoons or anime characters were gay.. they would translate it with the gayness and everything From the top of my head, Sailor Moon, Sakura Card Captor, Saint Seiya were soooo different in the US as they tried to hide the gay parts In Latin America it was there
Sex education on Netflix has an openly ace character! There’s also an aroace character in the anime Bloom Into You though the term aroace isn’t used I think
Disney was cray-cray far behind in the "other" relationships. Double-Trouble isn't just a non-binary character from "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", they're also voiced by a non-binary person in real life. That proves once and for all that DreamWorks is better than Disney; they're not afraid to take risks.
@@residentkaneexistence in their own minds. Not reality. Just because you want to pretend to be a cat, dog or a boy when you're a girl doesn't make it so. It makes you a confused person that needs help. Not confirmation that your twisted reality is REAL
I never realised just how important representation is (albeit I supported it) until Todd came out as asexual on BoJack Horseman and I broke down in tears because I had never, ever seen another asexual on screen before. It was the most incredible feeling; excitement and happiness, yes, but also an immense sense of... *relief*. If there had been representation like that when I was a kid, it could have saved me so many years of confusion and shame. But if there was I never saw it.
It makes me so happy to hear about people coming into their sexuality and gender identity, I hope you're doing well! Thanks for sharing this story, I'm reading all these comments and feeling so much better after a really hard day.
same! it made me so happy to see asexual representation especially in bojack horseman, i felt so happy that bojack and others accepted todd. it made me cry.
The creator has been getting a LOT of bullshit from Disney for The Owl House, recently a trailer aired for the newest season, which included spoilers she wasn't even told would be shown.
Rebecca Sugar has said that she had to really fight for the network to allow her to put the gay characters in the show so while they are better then Disney for agreeing to do this at all, they shouldn't get most of the credit.
Rebecca Sugar changed the game with Steven Universe. Ruby and Sapphire’s love create one of the best characters ever, Garnet. Truly wish Steven Universe was airing when I was growing up. It’s taken this long for representation to evolve in media, and we still have more to go!
As a Malaysian that watched Steven Universe on TV, I was surprised to find out Ruby and Sapphire actually got married! They actually cut out the scene in my country because I remember LGBTQ+ isn't allowed in my country.. quite sad, but at least I know that the representation are shown!
omg ikr they cut out everything lgbtq+ related, including one major scene of a lesbian wedding from cw supergirl's finale.. but anyways check out She-ra and the Princesses of Power on Netflix 🥰
People watching Steven universe. Genocide: oof, that's sad. Kids will get it. Gay characters: oh my gosh its too adult how r our kids gonna understand its complex stuff just don't talk about it its fine
Well, considering that many Western cartoons have an age rating of 6+, it is not surprising that parents and adults are outraged, because initially companies create a product in order to make money, and money is hard to earn when you risk getting sued by Karens, if cartoons were originally made for teenagers, there would be less outrage, however, this will not happen, because it is difficult to shake the wallet from the teenagers and adults.
When i started having crushes on boys in schools I thought something was wrong with me and it really screwed me up. I never saw gay couples anywhere, and when i did it was seen as a bad thing. I spent years pretending to like girls, trying to change, scared and with nobody to talk to... if I often saw gay couples treatated as normal I wouldn't have panicked and had a horrible time growing up
They obviously meant American cartoons. They can't be assed to look at the rest of the world. They have to maintain an illusion of social progress, even though trans and queer have been present in japanese medias for decades and sex has been around for...well, forever.
What's different between now than 30 years ago is we must accept that these people exist and not persecute them. I've watched gay shows before and enjoyed them because they are good shows. If a gay man wants to act out the flamboyant stereotypical gay character then that's his choice. The way I see it today is that straight people have accepted gay men, however there is still hostility towards lesbian women. I cringe when I see other straight men making lesbian jokes, they are just not funny. Most straight people think trans people are basically drag queens, probably because the only experience we have of them is seeing drag queens in gay clubs (yes, straight people go to gay clubs too). I can't comment on non binary / gender fluid, you hear so much about them but I've never actually met one. I think this group will be the hardest for people to accept because despite what the media say, they are extremely rare. It's not that we won't ever accept them, it's just that we don't understand them.
YESSS thank you I'm glad you as a straight man can see this too...gay men are so much more accepted and well represented in media than lesbians it's strange but i think it has something to do with people still holding some sort of entitlement over women's body.
I feel like it's different kinds of non-acceptance. Plenty of straight homophobic men hate gay men but are "ok" with lesbians because they fetishize them and perceive them as less of a threat to their masculinity. I don't think either group has full acceptance or has it much better than the other.
@@taxevader5386 exactly. Like where are gay men mostly accepted but lesbians not. A woman wearing a suit or more masculine clothing is way less controversial than a man doing the reverse. The highest group killed in America is trans people of color especially MTF which transphobes see as men and an attack on male masculinity. We are all oppressed. Idk where this person is coming from saying gay men are entirely accepted.
This is one reason why I absolutely love Steven Universe, I'm actually glad Rebecca was the first Animator to show an Lgbtq couple and have shows with LGBT characters sky rocket
I didn't know Rebecca Sugar was gonna be in this video when I opened it, my heart inmediately went 💜💜💜💖 Steven Universe is not only a good representation of love and kindness but also it's so beatiful.
The removal of _Religion_ from government and media has played a massive role as well Edit: yes I am talking about _your_ one specific particular religion Edit 2: *FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT*
It really annoys me when people accuse religious people (especially Christians) for hating LGBTQ. The only religious people like that are a few american boomers. As many Christians hate LGBTQ as other people. (not that many)
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@@cyberchicken3156 it's mainly christians who spew anti-lgbtqia+ rhetoric, publicly that is. and Christianity being one of the main religions practiced around the world, allot of lgbtq+'s families give them religious trauma. it's also important to remember its not personal, hope that helped you understand some things!
@ How about religions like Islam. Surprising how much the left supports Islam and hate Christianity when Islam despise homosexuality and would publicly execute homosexuals and all Christian's do is... just not support. Very curious. Oh... that's right. Because they wouldn't dare say anything against Islam because their afraid of getting executed. Wasn't Christians who made homosexual marriage legal. But, of course the left have to blame the religion that built their country because they can't blame any other.
She said they are “cooler”. She wasn’t erasing any coolness from straight people all together. And it is true that Disney hero’s are meant to be perfect and heteronormative and at times it makes them bland and a little boring. Like aurora for example,. Is there any defining trait to Aurora? She’s perfect and she’s beauty and that’s about it. Maleficient was a whole lot more interesting
Surprised that no one is talking about how Steven Universe was canceled from being aired on Cartoon Network Arabia half way through the show after being hard censored since it started airing there
Also, even the kid from my pfp. Ercole, a 17 yo villain teen, from Luca movie(pixar,aka Disney,since owns it) (Suspiciously) queercoded🌈 because his exaggerated effeminacy (not that explícit,since happens fast,his movements are so so fast when he talks or does stuff, to not be noticed at first, ig, but if you rewatch it or slow down the scenes a little bit when he appears,you can notice easily. You can actually realize it) I mean,u just need to stare at his hands,legs positions or face movements,and...dang😂(like 80% of the movie is like that,less when...well,the end of the movie,but...heh) Also,the scenes seem done on purpose to make you hate the character at 1st min on screen, or they make the scenes turn up to the main characters fastly to you as watcher not focus on the villain that much but the main characters (i had to rewatch the villain's scenes compilation to notice it properly, since in the movie, idk how, they made me get distracted and not notice the kid's body expressing) And i was like...but...how? This kid is even gayer than my ACTUALLY FEM GAY FRIENDS FROM HIGHSCHOOL! ._. And... yeah, the villain again 💀 Maybe we wait 10 yrs and they just say the kid is gay or whatever, i mean they've done this stuff so many times, so... LMFAO Also with how to train your dragon(not disney, it's dreamworks) The viking village's lumberjack is gay, confirmed in like 2016...? Idk but yrs later after 2nd movie it came out (2014) since ppl were sus and asking creators ab his behaviors (queercoded) The creators said he has been gay since 1st movie appearance or even the serie they did(between movie 1 and 2,also it kept going after movie 2) But confirmed it like 7 yrs later lol
People in the comments when a happy man and a woman get married in a kids cartoon: 🙂 People in the comments when 2 happy woman get married in a kids cartoon: 😨😡😭
@@xeno4693 not really a surprise that with how her characters look she wouldn't really care about maintain personal appearance. then again I love both stevens universe and adventure time. hope she makes many more cartoons in the future.
Growing up as a bi girl in a Christian household I never had anything to count on and I felt so alone. These characters really helped me find myself. I've always felt like a background character in my own life, but now I feel like I don't need anyone's permission.
@@shinysweety9822 Used it, still see nothing wrong with it In Orthodoxy, we believe that Jesus is the ultimate being and that in order to achieve heaven we must aspire to be like Him, as this gentleman's comment said. Mind you, I'm not religious at all, in fact I only go to church for my krsna slava.
Low-key kinda disappointed you didn't mention Korrasami more. While it is true that we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for the groundbreaking work Rebecca Sugar did. Korrasami was literally the stepping stone that started it all and it's kind of annoying that they get overlooked when we talk about lgbtq rep in western children's media.
Korrasami was NOT good representation. Holding hands at the end of the series in the last 5 seconds is not good representation. I’m aware they’re openly together in the comics, but children watching the show (and like 90% of avatar fans) most likely don’t read those.
@@cryptidnip you missed the point. Korrasami allowed for better representation they literally covered so much in terms of LGBT representation that had stereotypes. The point is that when the whole country is against who you are you need visibility no matter what. Korra had there hands tied and could not do much else. Without the brave decision of Legend of Korras ending there probably would not be a Steven universe in the way we know today.
@@cryptidnip well it was in 2014, especially considering the restrictions from the network. I mean they almost didn't even make the show because the creators wanted a female protagonist. It was the representation they could get within the context of their particular time and it contributed to more explicit portrayals being made.
Bugs bunny kissing was to make it funny and for elmer fudd to be frustrated its not queer it was to make it funny you guys are making this WAY too literal
@@GMAV3RICK a character can be anybody, and any character that is represented truthfully fully, and unapologetically. There is good bad and the mfn middle, but we won’t understand different walks if people can’t even create good characters.
I really hope we get a openly Aroace character at some point It's a tough thing being Aroace in a world that literally revolves around romance and love I think it would be really neat and helpful for those Aroace kids finding themselves 🙂 I mean I guess we have Peridot so that is good
@@guestc142 Well The people on Discord and Twitter exist and talk about it online 😅 I am here and I talk about it It's a real thing believe it or not I would know Because I am one of those people 😅
*boy pecking another boy gently on his cheek* the straights: ewwwwwww get that out of my child’s face! *a man and a woman making out on the television that kids are watching* the straights: this is fine
@@TrimVALO Normal? What do you mean? Are you living around a rock? Gay people have always existed, and society today is much more inclusive rather than those dumb boomer generation that only follows a book written by old men.
Rebecca Sugar is literally my hero. while you excluded some stuff (like Lumity, or anything outside the US), I thank you for this video Insider. Sometimes it’s just nice to be reminded that progress is, indeed, happening.
@@_Error__ Yaoi is the worst, most of those ships were abusive, toxic, pedophile or incest. Yuri (girlsxgirls relationship), was very underrated back then but most of those lesbian pairings were more healthy and realistic and were not extremely sexualized like Yaoi pairings.
I wonder how gen alpha is gonna change the world.. I hope more of them grown up to accept whoever they are and more open about themselves! Spread the love guys not hate 😌🌈
I was at first,afraid of making stories with characters more verbally saying they’re sexualities.But after watching this,I am confident in making my characters more vocal about themselves.
I remember asking my dad if I could watch a show with a couple lesbian/bisexual scenes in it and he said he would talk to my mom about it and he also said it should be fine as long as I knew I shouldn’t be lesbian/bisexual and it’s wrong in gods eyes. Him saying that hurt my feelings so bad bc I’ve already identified as pansexual I just hadn’t told my parents yet and I believe god loves us for who we are- sorry for the long comment, I kinda vented huh? Sorry- and I respect all beliefs as well- and in case your wondering the show name is owl house
I’m sorry about that, some parents can be cruel and bring wrongly presented religion over their childs happiness. And It’s okay to vent of course! It’s a hurtful memory and similiar things have happened to me ever since I’ve been partially open to my parents as a lesbian, its good to write out what bothers you and it’s good that you did. It’s been a month but I hope you’re okay. You’re valid
Don't know if it's the pregnancy hormones or me already being a sensitive person but I cried watching this. I got so excited, happy, and ugh it's just great and beautiful.
I don't normally comment but seeing a lot of dense people here I have to share my thoughts: Being gay or lgbtq isn't inherently sexual y'know... just like being straight isn't automatically sexual. Whenever you see a girl crushing on a boy do you go "oh no stop it you're shoving it in everyone's faces". Having crushes on people at a young age is normal and healthy to have. You get to learn about your different relationships with others; and it's not like that boy and girl are gonna automatically end up dating right? It's just normal to show kids that "it's ok to have interest in other people, and have feelings of love for them, someday when you're older you'll find that person to share that interest with". How come it all suddenly comes to a stop when queer kids come into the equation? There are such things as queer kids too, yknow. Why can't *they* be considered normal? Please reevaluate why you think this way and become humble enough to have the compassion to educate yourself. You can end up spitting the same rhetoric that homophobes and transphobes preach that send us backward. The reason lgbtq characters are important in children's animation is to show that is normal for these people to exist; most importantly, that it's normal for kids who ARE lgbtq the exist as they are. Kids learn about straight, crushes, straight relationships, straight marriages at a fairly young age... so why not queer ones? I promise, kids are more intelligent than you think. (Also this is coming from a person who's country their from is doesn't support same-sex relationships or gender non-conforming people; I know people like me need this more than you do)
So, what's happened here is that you've become confused. The language used in normalization is designed to do that. Allow me to break it down for you. "Homophobia" is a nonsense word. Correctly transliterated, it would mean "fear of the same". A "homophobe" would be someone who is frightful of people who are like themselves. Of course that's not what the word is supposed to mean. It's supposed to mean fear of people who are different, or something like that. And of course the accusation isn't of fear, but of "hate". "Heterosexual" is also a silly word because it's redundant. There is nothing denoted by it which isn't denoted in the root word "sex". "Sex" means sexual difference. So, union between male and female is the only sexual "orientation" which is describable as sexual. The only purpose for the word "Heterosexual" is to prefigure a false paradigm by which normal sexuality lies as a point on a gradient coequal with "homosexuality", a word for same-sex eroticism, which is in fact anti-sexual. But there isn't a gradient between these points. There is a dichotomy of 97% normal sexuality and 3% disordered erotic fixations. This normal condition is therefore attacked by the champions of abnormality with another nonsense word, "heteronormativity". "Heteronormativity" is the word cultural arsonists use to problematize normal sexuality. They posit that an injustice is evident in the way children may freely be exposed to images and messaging which normalizes normal sexuality: Things like mom sleeping in the same bed as dad and marriages and girls kissing boys and male-female dance couples and so forth. Why, they demand to know, is it not so for men kissing men or men performing drag or worse. It's not so confounding in reality. "Heterosexuality" is, quite simply, the method by which the human species reproduces. It is not a "kink" or a fetish or a deviation from health and normalcy as "homosexuality" is. One may as well ask why fisting isn't as socially privileged as respiration. With all that understood, perhaps it's clearer that, for people who socially identify themselves by their aberrant erotic fixations, reference to their secondary social identities as such are references to their aberrant erotic fixations.
So, if you are reading this, you came to the wrong part of the comments section. There are people who like to write essays around here. Why? Good question. The first guy could've simply said that heterosexual childhood crushes are considered fine, so why aren't gay crushes? However, he choose to use about 3 paragraphs. So unnecessary. I think he makes a good point, except for that I don't like the idea of LGBT so he must be wrong. The second guy took it way overkill. He wrote about 10 paragraphs. Just to simply say he disagrees and the first guy is wrong. However, I am not sure if that is what he said in the end since it was too long to read. These guys must be on computers, typing up thier college entry essays here. It doesn't matter, just prepare to see lots of "Too Long, Didn't Read" comments or "TLDR" comments. Or from the extra lazy, expect the comment "T" Because this was too long to read.
@@clemtoe he might not be confused but you are certainly confusing him. lol. You can't be a good debater if you don't see things from the opponents viewpoint. Humans (or neologists or whatever) create new words to convey a meaning that cannot be extracted by already existing words. What you were doing in your whole essay was breaking down the terms/words to create new meanings out of them. And when you tried to do that you *confused* yourself even more. Now, here are the things which are most probably wrong in your reply: 1. Homophobia has been defined as "fear, hatred or discomfort with people who are gay". While it does seem like it is some sort of anxiety disorders like arachnophobia or acrophobia, it might not always be associated with it. Like I said, there is no point in arguing if its a non sense word or not. Its definition matters. Besides, there are plenty of other words in english which don't really mean what they seem to convey. 2. Hetersexual isn't redundant. Let me explain this by an example. Centuries ago, mathematicians used to think a number can be either rational (1.23, 0.99(bar)) or irrational (pi, e). Then after some people started giving meaning to numbers like sqrt(-1), mathematicians realised there is a whole set of new numbers whose inclusion can solve many problems. They called them "imaginary numbers". _Now that we have imaginary numbers, what would we classify rational+irrational numbers as?_ Inclusion of new numbers became the necessity to classify rational+irrational numbers as Real numbers! The same thing happened with the inclusion of term homosexual as classifying others as heterosexual. So I don't think its redundant. 3. Have you ever met a gay person irl? You frequently used the words like "anti-sexual", " disordered erotic fixations", "abnormality", "fetish", "deviation" as attributes of homosexuality. If you met any gay person did you find these attributes inside them? There are many examples of lgbt people who have contributed to the development of society as much as other straight people. Like Alan Turing who gave us the algorithms and computational strategies by his Turing Machine, most of which have been used to create today's computers and this digital world. Tell me how he could have done this if he was abnormal or deviated? Tim Cook present Ceo of Apple inc. since 2011. Tell me how he has been running the company for so long if he's been subject to disordered erotic fixations and fetishes? Certainly you are wrong somewhere my dear. Sally Ride an Astronaut and a physicist, who also did researches on nonlinear optics and thomson scattering. Tell me how she was able to do all of this just like any other straight person, if according to you, her mind was polluted by sexually stuffs and deviations? Freddie Mercury, of course, I don't need to tell you who he was. How could such a good person write such beautiful songs if according to you, he is abnormal? What I have come to conclusion is that you are biased, blinded and inexperienced. Biased in the way that you never have took time to think from any single gay's perspective. Inexperienced in the sense that you never actually have any real life experience with lgbt person, blinded by the adult websites you spend time scrolling through to get orgasm, and concluding that all gays are like those pornstars. sry if I said anything wrong. thx for reading. :)
8:20 these scenes are so beautiful. I cant wait until they're not just LGBTQ women, its gonna be so much harder to tear down the gay male walls of stereotypes, maybe even harder for trans people.
@@LSnium i dont understand what you mean by "sexual" its a beautiful scene with amazing cinematography, and its two people dancing through a forest expressing their love, it has nothing to do with sex, or anything sexual. And even if you say it has anything to do with sex, why was the straight version allowed on children tv? Or were you brainwashed to think that anyone remotely LGBTQIAP+ is just nasty and only cares about sex? Please, I truly belive that you can also learn to understand, and I know youre a good person despite the words you say in these comments.
@Elios Look, im fine with only LGB. Thats it remove the rest, no TQIAZLMNOP+ X pro max You dont need to question your gender, you have a rod or a hole, when youre born.
I mean, its good theres LGBTQ marraige now, but on the same episode as the villains attack? Really? You cant let the gay couple have even 5 minutes of actual happiness without gatecrashing it on the same level as Jesus arising from the dead on the 3rd day?
OK I ALWAYS KNEW MARCELINE AND BUBBLEGUM WERE RUMORED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. BUT I NEVER FINISHED THE SERIES SO IM MAD YOU JUST REVEALED THEY KISSED WITHOUT A SPOILER ALERT 😡 ILL GET OVER IT BUT AAAHHH!
Check out Insider's database here, cataloguing more than 200 confirmed LGBTQ characters in kids' animation: www.insider.com/lgbtq-cartoon-characters-kids-database-2021-06?page=explore-database
Thats not a good thing. Children's shows shouldnt be sexualized in ANY way
@@lordfezerellii Of course. Gender representation is necessary though for many children to understand others who are different from what is considered “normal”.
I have a problem with adult activity being put in children's cartoons no matter what YOUR lifestyle choices are‼️‼️‼️ STOP IMPOSING ADULT ACTIVITY ON CHILDREN ‼️‼️‼️PREDICTORS ‼️‼️‼️
Im glad im not gay but im ok with my friend is lesbian
By the woman staring the gay stuff
Disney: Not Allowing LGBTQ+ In Gravity Falls.
Also Disney: Happy Pride Month!
every year Disney send massive emails to go buy Pride Month Disney merchandise
The officers are gay?? Also mable wore a pride hoodie in the love episode
@@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 well, Alex wanted to make a scene where cupid makes two old woman fall in love but disney didn't allow it so insted he decided to make Mable's sweater rainbow
It's all about the $$$
@@rowangajdzik2540 :( I want more old people pride
I still remember when sailor moon was dubbed into English they made edits and cuts to make sailor Neptune and sailor Uranus cousins. I could tell something was off so I looked it up online and saw in the original anime they were partners and lovers. Then Sailor stars was supposedly never dubbed because they didn't knew how american audiences would handle the sailor stars being one gender when transformed (female) and disguised as another when not transformed on earth (male).
Yo there were lesbians in that show?
@@taxevader5386 there was also a trans woman I believe that was one of their villains in the later seasons and two of the main villains for season 1 were in a gay relationship but that was only in the 1st anime I believe
@@redmims that's really cool, It's a shame America censored it.
@@taxevader5386 Several gays and lesbians and sailor stars were trans or something in the anime only
like the baphomet?
If a country said a show isn’t allowed due to topics like this, then screw that country and I wouldn’t want my show viewed there anyway then.
Based
I grew up with Steven Universe. When I was young and saw that prison break episode I realized that I wasn't the only one in the world who was gay. I expected first hand why representation in media matters.
CRINGE.
@@busterchops445 you're cringe
when i was young i didnt know that gays exist even tho i am one back then when i was 15 or younger To be honest i just didnt care if us gay are not represented cause we do exist THE WORLD KNOWS that we exist and we are a threat their belives ..
But does it need to be in a kids movie?
@@Cdh9743 who cares ?! If parents dont want to watch it then they shouldt show it to their kids we are not hurting nobody
Even though this was an year ago, peppa pig got lesbian parents now, it’s clear because there child wrote a picture of them and it was the CUTEST thing EVER
I hope they make part 2, they also forgot owl house lol.
@@Bubblysyrup yea
Love how crystals don’t have genders 🥱
Well they don't technically have them in reality they do like how garrnet ,pearl and amythiest and saphire while ruby to me honestly seems to be shown or is more male
Pronouns =/= Gender, the gems go by female pronouns, but are non-binary
@@EdricCoconut pronouns imply gender
@@EdricCoconut always*
@@he96765 in that case, people should refer to groups by each person, or say shes' hes' or theys' if the whole group is the same gender. Because they is a pronoun, and it "always" implys gender, so using they/them on that context is just wrong
Y'all forgot Strawberry Shortcake's villain - The Peculiar Purple Pieman from Porcupine Peak.
Ya ta ta, ta ta, ta ta ta
I love all of these examples of representation from my childhood, like Him, Bugs Bunny in Drag, the gems (although they’re genderless), etc. It shouldn’t be prominent to young kids, but it should be something that some of them relate to. Just like romance. Romance and sexuality should never be a huge part of television. It should be treated like a normal thing
Exactly.
I feel like the internet romanticizes stuff to much WITH LITERALLY EVERY CHARACTER BEING SHIPPED WITH ANOTHER. I doesn't matter if it is a show about object OR FRIKIN GODZILLA MOVIES. PEOPLE WILL FIND A WAY TO FORCE ROMANCE IN SOME WEIRD WAY. I remember being shocked when dora was not shipped with anybody in the cartoon.
@kqro bassed and red gummy vitamined
These comments did not pass the vibe check
Most def
I love that it cut to Voltron when it was said to not have done justice xD
they're not wrong xD
Representation is important, but not obligatory in all forms of entertainment. There can be shows that are diverse or shows that aren't diverse, but they can still be entertaining.
Good
7:02 The nostalgia
I'm watching this on the bus, constantly hiding the screen... I live in Australia, I shouldn't have to feel like hiding this, nor should anyone else anywhere around the world
? Dude Australia has lots of laws protecting LGBTQ+ people from discrimination
@@cryptidnip I'm aware, I'm talking about the general feeling of shame inherited from the intolerant people around me growing up. That's something that'll slowly erase in time, but it's still not a great feeling to have no matter where you are
@@fornkly that won't happen
@@fornkly and i like it to be that way
@@G.A.C_Preserve lmfao, ok karen keep wishing 4 it
Thanks for appropriating and ruining words like 'queer' 'gay' 'non-binary' 'gender' 'straight' 'sexuality' etc. Now Politicized, these words have lost their proper meaning, restricting, rather than freeing language.
homosexuality as adult topics? come on, I grew up in a family that never said anything bad about homosexuals, nor did mention them, and for my 5-year-old self, making a male doll kiss another male doll was as normal as two female doing it or a man and woman. I even have doll that sometimes were man and sometimes were women. it's not an adult thing, children understand, even better than most adults, that it's just love.
We need to stop pushing people for their beliefs, and actually look into it. They're just being more happy that way. There's nothing wrong with that. They just do it to be happier, that's it. Not for some weird messed up heckish intentions.
beliefs as in religions?
If someone wants to have sex with his own sister and his doing it to make happier will you condemn it
dont forget the fact that legend of korra has three lgbtqia2+ characters specifically Korra whos Bi Asami whos Bi And Kya who is lesbian.
Also is gay character im Korra
Gay man
Steven universe was literally my gay awakening
🤢🤮
I love the fact that this is happening, especially since the shows aren’t trying to push it in peoples face, but trying to get them to understand that just because one character is lgbt, it doesn’t change the whole show
As a child when I saw 2 guys kissing, I took it as a joke.
When I watched The Powerpuff girls, I had no idea what and who Him was.
When I asked mom 'what's a lesbian?' She said 'woman who is atracted to women.'
And then I asked myself ' It is?!' as a straight person and child.
I hate how parents try to hide the lgbtq+ from kids. I went through a small crisis with being called a girl when I was 7, but I didn’t think it was normal for anyone to feel that way. So I kept quiet about it. Now I’ll say proudly:
Hi I’m Tom you can called me Tommy.
My pronouns are he/they/it.
🤢
;-):-)
Glad to hear you found yourself, Tommy!
How can your pronoun be "it"...
Same, I think that's why my parents hate SU.
(Also I use they/them pronouns :>)
If Princess Bubblegum & Marceline the Vampire Queen from Adventure Time are an item together, wouldn't that also make Prince Gumball & Marshall Lee the Vampire King from the alternate universe an item too??
I do hope so
noooo
don't ruined my childhood. i want fiona and marshall lee together
I prefer not to think of a male marceline and bublegum. thanks
LOL the moment i saw pb and marcy kiss, i though that exact same thing!
Wait Velma is lesbian?? I thought she was American 😭
Bruuuuh im ☠️
im👻
The 'confusion background music ' instantly played after I read this.
"Hey. I'm a lesbian"
"I thought you were American!"
Waiting to r/woosh someone
i find it kind of ironic that the main effect of villains being queer-coded for decades in kids animation is that a lot of queer people grew up loving villains and not being sure why
My first crush was Kovu from the Lion king 2… I was like 5. And I was like
*WAIT HES A GUY… OH NO OH NO*
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 mine was rocko from rockos modern life lmao, i was like 6 or 7
@@spootymaniacs my first one was... nobody, I'm ace
But i really liked Jaafar and his general aesthetic, everything he's in is just a ~~*vibe*~~
Because they gay
Raquelle…Malificent oh gosh Malificent
If I was a kid watching a show with my parents, no matter the gender, if the characters are kissing I would cringe a bit
You are my kinda person
i would look away
@@naluanj9628 same
I feel even weird to watch a full out make out scene with my parents and i'm an adult. I usually take my phone or get up to go to the toilet. It's way too awkward.
YOOOO SAME THO LIKE I’M A HUGE SHIPPER OF MANY SHIPS BUT I CAN’T STAND SEEING THEM KISS IDK WHY
Japan has allowed LGBTQ stuff in children's animated shows for years, Sailor moon for example.
The evil enemy Berg Katse of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman [1972] (brought over as Battle of the Planets [1978]) was a great character both male and female!
Good for them. Still don't like Japan.
@@AUGGHAHAHA because they invaded the Philippines
Edit: this is satire, you guys can stop now.
@@breagle4525 do you like the USA?
@@RedJet-bq6fq not really
i love it how the episode Garnet got married was the same one where Yellow Diamond and Blue Diamond attacked. Rebecca really said "you cant skip this episode" and went lmao
OMG YES. It basically forced people to watch it or they’d be confused.
this is not a good thing- it means the second lgbtq wedding shared time with the beginning of the rdemption ark for the space tyrants
@@dazedandconfused5711 that’s ok as long as more people viewed said wedding
@@dazedandconfused5711 Ffs not everything is black and white. Had they developed the diamond's arc better we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Feels like a forced agenda.
This video shouldn't have been called "in children's animation," it should have been "in western children's animation." The main characters in Patalliro were in a clear gay relationship all the way back in the 70s.
Yesss, although the anime itself was from the early '80s, the manga was the '70s. Either way, it's considered the first anime to show characters openly in that manner.
more specifically, American animation. Sailor Moon had a gay couple and another anime from the 80s had a trans love interest
@@janaekelis wow I would have never imagined
Lettuce 🥬😍
I love your lettuce avatar!
Rebecca Sugar putting Ruby in the Wedding Dress was the biggest passive aggressive middle finger to the countries that tried making Ruby male to stop the LGBT representation. And Ruby totally rocked the dress by the way, what a queen.
Yessssss
Yes
She’s so sneaky and intelligent… she’s the only non male I’ve ever been attracted to… *erm gae* 🕺
So that's why there's a massive ocean in Siberia.
we love a queen
Velma is lesbian? Wait a minute I specifically remember her dating shaggy at once point
Maybe that's what made her realize she's gay
Perhaps she's pansexual?? Not sureee
we all have down points
thats either her awakening or shes bi
The video is implying that she was always a lesbian or coded as such and that is simply untrue. She was created in the 1960's and, because of the prevailing mindset, it is almost certain that she was not designed to be queer in any way shape or form.
Now Scooby Doo has many different versions and iterations that are always exploring new takes on the character. Because of this, it's impossible to say there is a "definitive" or "canon" version of the character that applies across all continuities. In some versions Velma is sarcastic, in other versions she's timid. Sometimes she's white, but one time she was Asian. This variation can, theoretically, also apply to her sexuality.
So it is theoretically possible for Velma to be straight in one continuity and gay or bi in another. But again, at best this only applies to that specific continuity. You can't say Mystery Incorporated Velma is gay and therefore Velma in all Scooby Doo media is gay, to assert so would simply be untrue.
So now the question is has Velma ever been labeled as queer in any official Scooby Doo media. And the answer to this is honestly no. The closest they got was in Mystery Incorporated where a producer said Velma was gay 7+ years after the show finished airing.
Now there is debate about whether something is official if it's confirmed outside the show in a tweet or interview. In my book, the answer is no, if you want something to be canon it needs to explicitly be proven in the show. Not to mention anyone can say something after the fact, but that doesn't mean it was true when that product was actually airing.
But even if you don't have a view on canon as strict as me, I think labeling Velma as gay in a social media post completely defeats the point of representation. Representation is about seeing yourself or other people in media and if you need to reveal the truth 7 years later for people to realize that a character was written as gay, that's not representation. Because the fact is, there was nothing in that show that ever confirmed Velma was gay. Ironically, the show makes a much stronger case for Velma being straight given how much screentime is dedicated to showing her relationship with Shaggy.
So that is my absurdly long comment about Velma and the whole issue of her being gay. Will Velma be written as gay in the future? Maybe. In fact, WB has hinted that's the plan. But has she been written as gay before? A _very_ generous kinda. At best, Velma was written with the intention of being gay in a single iteration of the tv show but it was so poorly communicated that you wouldn't know it just by watching the show.
*TL;DR You cannot label Velma as gay because there are many versions of her and the video is not approaching the issue with enough nuance. In many versions, Velma is straight. At best, the character was gay in a single tv show but even that is debatably canon.*
Gaston is definitely not queer-coded. He's practically the definition of toxic masculinity.
Queer vs GOP,
just recently covered epicly by Some-More-News.
*definition of based*
@Telleva You missed the full-comment here, mate.
Please re-read.
How can you define something that doesn't exist?
@Telleva they're all toxic what you mean lol
Let’s not forget the owl house to show the first bisexual Disney protagonist
God we're so close
And a lesbian main character/non-binary character!!
I convinced my 6 year old brother to watch it and his reaction was absolutely hilarious
@JOEbaconJOJO RBLX What?
@JOEbaconJOJO RBLX :\\\
Not a single mention of Sailor Moon and the atrocious way they treated Jadeite, Haruka & Michiru, Fisheye or the Sailor Strars in the US localisation? I'm german where they kept the characters queer sometimes. So Sailor Moon was the earliest cartoon where I was taking notice of queer people as a child.
You mean Michiru kagemori?
@@theheavy4813 Michiru Kaiou / Sailor Neptune
Utena is another anime example that you won't see anywhere and as the name of the aniem implies, it was revolutionary!
@@KrizSykx well i don't know about it. Maybe steven universe and she-ra inspired by Utena. Some of the scene match Utena storyboard
*cries in Italian* no really, they made it all straight in the Italian dub, even if it always complicated things.
I remember seeing "Ferdinand The Bull" as a kid. I was always much more peaceful and quiet than the other boys. And seeing this muscular, strong bull being gentle and loving flowers was for me like: "There is no rule in nature that one thing is not combineable with the other!".
Same here. When I was little my mom would let me paint my nails (My dad and her would fight about it) but I did it, and my mom loved me every step of my path :). I’m gay, and a have the most lovely mom :)… I don’t speak to my dad, and that kinda hurts…
To end on a happy note my mom used to be called ✨The Faghag✨ because all of her friends were gay, trans or lesbian
Now all but 1 of her children are in one way or another LGBTQ+ 💀, and she’s proud of all of us 😊.
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 awww
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 that's such a wonderful story. So many stories queer people tell are sad, because life is hard for many of us, so it's amazing to see stories like yours!
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 your mother is great
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 honestly ur mom is amazing, and i want to be like her when i grow up. what a role model 👍👍👍
Title should be “in the US”
In Latin America, for the most part (or from what I remember), they didn’t care if cartoons or anime characters were gay.. they would translate it with the gayness and everything
From the top of my head, Sailor Moon, Sakura Card Captor, Saint Seiya were soooo different in the US as they tried to hide the gay parts
In Latin America it was there
another good example was an old anime called Candy Candy, I don’t remember which character was but they didn’t censored it here in México
I'm not from America as well but my only expression was like... eh.
@@justhereowo351 YEAH I REMEMBER THAT SHOW
Yeah, I saw their data, they only looked at cartoons made in the United States or Canada.
seh, es verdad, pero es irónico XD
I liked Todd coming out as Ace on Bojack. He's the only openly asexual character in fiction.
Sex education on Netflix has an openly ace character! There’s also an aroace character in the anime Bloom Into You though the term aroace isn’t used I think
Alistair The radio Demon is canonically asexual
jughead from the archie comics is aromantic asexual too.
@@vphobicc566 look how they massacred my boy in River Dale
same, it made me so happy!
People were okay with a BUMBLEBEE dating a human woman but they're mad about 2 nonbinary people kissing?
Yeah, people don’t make sense 😑 If a robot can date a human according to them why cant two humans date?
@@charlieemily7319 they can
@@dyoufr I know I’m just talking about tv logic according to homophobes-
Ikr
@@charlieemily7319 oh you talking about women to women dating and men to men dating
Bigots be like:
Straight marriage and constant kissing scenes: great kids’ movie!
1 same sex kiss: This is pedophilia and indocrination
Factual
Sexy female characters doing subtly sussy stuff = OK
One is natural, the other is not.
To me, the holy trinity is Steven Universe, She-Ra, and The Owl House!
trueee
The Knights of the Rountable!
and don't forget the elder one Legend of Korra
@@matheussanthiago9685 korrasami
Yup. They're all amazing and wonderful shows with great Representation!
Luz and Amity is also a big step they are openly dating both girls the show even called them girlfriends :)
yes! and luz is a woc as well and there’s not much rep for queer poc
I'm surprised Disney approved this
@@suikity but it’s good they did :))
@@iheartdottore9962 honestly yeah, it's a good thing. Hopefully they'll accept this more in the future.
@@iheartdottore9962 I think they didn't want it, but the creator of the show did
Something I love about Steven universe is that Rebecca didn’t care about the push back
There was a price to pay for that bit
I think
Indeed
@Franky Torres they cut the budget for the show cause of the wedding
@Franky Torres bct bule
Disney was cray-cray far behind in the "other" relationships. Double-Trouble isn't just a non-binary character from "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", they're also voiced by a non-binary person in real life. That proves once and for all that DreamWorks is better than Disney; they're not afraid to take risks.
alright that’s actually pretty cool lol
Everyone in She-ra except probably Shadow Weaver, Angella and Micah are confirmed lgbt
Woke mess
@@davidmoore5004 someone's existence is “woke” now????
@@residentkaneexistence in their own minds. Not reality. Just because you want to pretend to be a cat, dog or a boy when you're a girl doesn't make it so. It makes you a confused person that needs help. Not confirmation that your twisted reality is REAL
I never realised just how important representation is (albeit I supported it) until Todd came out as asexual on BoJack Horseman and I broke down in tears because I had never, ever seen another asexual on screen before. It was the most incredible feeling; excitement and happiness, yes, but also an immense sense of... *relief*. If there had been representation like that when I was a kid, it could have saved me so many years of confusion and shame. But if there was I never saw it.
It makes me so happy to hear about people coming into their sexuality and gender identity, I hope you're doing well! Thanks for sharing this story, I'm reading all these comments and feeling so much better after a really hard day.
Cringe
same! it made me so happy to see asexual representation especially in bojack horseman, i felt so happy that bojack and others accepted todd. it made me cry.
@@annasxfa it made u cry? Lol
@@JohnCenaFan6298 yea thats what i said lol
*Insider includes Ruby and Saphire*
Lumity: "Am I a joke to you?"
PLS I LOOKED AT THIS VIDEO JUST TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE THERE- they will be eventually
PLSSSSS
Exactly
Yea, but they still could have added Luz since she is the first lgbtq+ main character in Disney
The creator has been getting a LOT of bullshit from Disney for The Owl House, recently a trailer aired for the newest season, which included spoilers she wasn't even told would be shown.
Me: sees Catra and Adora
Also me: starts crying
Also Skeletor : WAT
Get your emotions in check.
literally the same god i loved that show
DELETE THIS WHY DID IDO THE SAME
Oh yeah she ra
Disney: we don’t allow children to be exposed to gayness
Cartoon Network: let’s make a show about gay rocks
Rebecca Sugar has said that she had to really fight for the network to allow her to put the gay characters in the show so while they are better then Disney for agreeing to do this at all, they shouldn't get most of the credit.
Me: **patiently waits for sailor moon**
anime
@@tonykhang1984 anime is Japanese animation/cartoon
@@starmaidenvv yea
but they said children and sailor moon is more of a teens show
but yea they missed alota shows
@@tonykhang1984 i get what you mean, but yeah
@@starmaidenvv k cool
Rebecca Sugar changed the game with Steven Universe. Ruby and Sapphire’s love create one of the best characters ever, Garnet. Truly wish Steven Universe was airing when I was growing up.
It’s taken this long for representation to evolve in media, and we still have more to go!
Stop being dumb.
@@LSnium ?
@@LSnium you'd be cool if you weren't a furry.
@.
Mk.
@@LSnium why u mad?
America: look at all our queer firsts in animation! We are so amazing!
Japan: have you even seen anime?
Yaoi isn’t a good representation lol.
@@lexdraws1729 cofcofSailorMooncofcof
@@lexdraws1729 not only that there's alot of different LGBT things in anime example: saiki k, sailor moon and much more
Three anime for you. Sailor Moon and Utena and Yuri on Ice
@@lexdraws1729 they weren’t talking about that even if they were it’s still homosexuality represented in animation and tv
As a Malaysian that watched Steven Universe on TV, I was surprised to find out Ruby and Sapphire actually got married! They actually cut out the scene in my country because I remember LGBTQ+ isn't allowed in my country.. quite sad, but at least I know that the representation are shown!
omg ikr they cut out everything lgbtq+ related, including one major scene of a lesbian wedding from cw supergirl's finale.. but anyways check out She-ra and the Princesses of Power on Netflix 🥰
Poor kids. Their parents should pay attention to what their kids are watching. The world is degenerate.
Why can’t more countries be like Malaysia?
That has no place in a children's show.
@@AddMoreQuarters what about bugs bunny kissing another character
And people say that Cartoon Network isn’t homophobic…
Yep… sure….
Lol, ye
They're all Homophobes, if we get gei, it's bc idk how, we achieve it
theyre anti-lgbt if it makes them money but also pro lgbt if it makes them money
@@spootymaniacs right ::
They tried to make Ruby seem more male earlier in the seasons because they weren't sure if it would be openly accepted.
She is male
@@popinmo I’m sorry but ‘she is male’ is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
@@genreofa well I mean people refer to her as she but she seems more like a man to me tbh
@@popinmo what da fawk?
@@genreofa literally a "They hurt themselves in confusion." Kind of moment 🤣
No Owl House references? I’m surprised
Owl House machine broke
Wath Luca its pretty 🏳️🌈
@@maddiepaints8670 it's not I mean it is but mostly people make it gay
@@introvertion6460 until you watch it
People watching Steven universe.
Genocide: oof, that's sad. Kids will get it.
Gay characters: oh my gosh its too adult how r our kids gonna understand its complex stuff just don't talk about it its fine
Well, considering that many Western cartoons have an age rating of 6+, it is not surprising that parents and adults are outraged, because initially companies create a product in order to make money, and money is hard to earn when you risk getting sued by Karens, if cartoons were originally made for teenagers, there would be less outrage, however, this will not happen, because it is difficult to shake the wallet from the teenagers and adults.
When i started having crushes on boys in schools I thought something was wrong with me and it really screwed me up. I never saw gay couples anywhere, and when i did it was seen as a bad thing. I spent years pretending to like girls, trying to change, scared and with nobody to talk to... if I often saw gay couples treatated as normal I wouldn't have panicked and had a horrible time growing up
This is why representation matters, hope you've come to terms with your sexuality and love and accept yourself just the way you are now! :]
Get some help
Get some help
Hope u are doing well, but guess i dont wanna see gay couples on the street often 🤷♂️
Hope u didn't share it with anyone in your class, if then that boys childhood would have been ruined.
Frantically looks for Korrasami**
Same!
They obviously meant American cartoons. They can't be assed to look at the rest of the world.
They have to maintain an illusion of social progress, even though trans and queer have been present in japanese medias for decades and sex has been around for...well, forever.
@@oneoranota Korra *is* an American cartoon.
@@oneoranota When you said Japanese Media I chocked on my pretzels
👀
What's different between now than 30 years ago is we must accept that these people exist and not persecute them. I've watched gay shows before and enjoyed them because they are good shows.
If a gay man wants to act out the flamboyant stereotypical gay character then that's his choice. The way I see it today is that straight people have accepted gay men, however there is still hostility towards lesbian women. I cringe when I see other straight men making lesbian jokes, they are just not funny.
Most straight people think trans people are basically drag queens, probably because the only experience we have of them is seeing drag queens in gay clubs (yes, straight people go to gay clubs too).
I can't comment on non binary / gender fluid, you hear so much about them but I've never actually met one. I think this group will be the hardest for people to accept because despite what the media say, they are extremely rare. It's not that we won't ever accept them, it's just that we don't understand them.
YESSS thank you I'm glad you as a straight man can see this too...gay men are so much more accepted and well represented in media than lesbians it's strange but i think it has something to do with people still holding some sort of entitlement over women's body.
Well hello there, I am agender which makes me non-binary. I am also aro/ace. Nice to meet you!
I feel like it's different kinds of non-acceptance. Plenty of straight homophobic men hate gay men but are "ok" with lesbians because they fetishize them and perceive them as less of a threat to their masculinity. I don't think either group has full acceptance or has it much better than the other.
@@Dakarai_Knight yeah it's annoying, they'll hate us gays but they don't mind lesbians cause there "smoking hot"
@@taxevader5386 exactly. Like where are gay men mostly accepted but lesbians not. A woman wearing a suit or more masculine clothing is way less controversial than a man doing the reverse. The highest group killed in America is trans people of color especially MTF which transphobes see as men and an attack on male masculinity. We are all oppressed. Idk where this person is coming from saying gay men are entirely accepted.
This is why I love The Owl House series. It is pretty much a gaint middle finger, saying "Frick You!", to a majority of the animation industry.
It's basically the new mainstream and normality would be the big middle finger
This is one reason why I absolutely love Steven Universe, I'm actually glad Rebecca was the first Animator to show an Lgbtq couple and have shows with LGBT characters sky rocket
She wasn't the first to show an LGBT couple, she was the first American I guess to do it?
arthur?
Stop projecting
I didn't know Rebecca Sugar was gonna be in this video when I opened it, my heart inmediately went 💜💜💜💖 Steven Universe is not only a good representation of love and kindness but also it's so beatiful.
Yeah luckily they wont have kids if they were real!
Growing up with basically 0 lgbtq+ stuff in kids shows, it felt a bit weird seeing it for the first time, but I am glad it is getting more widespread.
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 What
We were shaped by an era that groomed toxic masculinity into children at a young age.
It has no business being in children's programing.
@@AddMoreQuarters Definitely depends a lot on the context
@@Zappr Context:never!
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE ACKNOWLEDGE KIPO AND THE AGE OF WONDERBEASTS
I KNOW RIGHT!? So hard to find any fanart of it too😭😭
SO TRUE
The removal of _Religion_ from government and media has played a massive role as well
Edit: yes I am talking about _your_ one specific particular religion
Edit 2: *FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT*
Lgbtq dising on religions
It really annoys me when people accuse religious people (especially Christians) for hating LGBTQ. The only religious people like that are a few american boomers. As many Christians hate LGBTQ as other people. (not that many)
@@cyberchicken3156 it's mainly christians who spew anti-lgbtqia+ rhetoric, publicly that is. and Christianity being one of the main religions practiced around the world, allot of lgbtq+'s families give them religious trauma. it's also important to remember its not personal, hope that helped you understand some things!
You guys want religion to return to goverment and media?
@ How about religions like Islam. Surprising how much the left supports Islam and hate Christianity when Islam despise homosexuality and would publicly execute homosexuals and all Christian's do is... just not support. Very curious. Oh... that's right. Because they wouldn't dare say anything against Islam because their afraid of getting executed. Wasn't Christians who made homosexual marriage legal. But, of course the left have to blame the religion that built their country because they can't blame any other.
It’s so sad that the people who can’t accept difference and change in the world are the people in charge
That's why villains always felt so much cooler than the princesses.
So then
"Straight people = uncool bcs they are not lgbt+ "
Ok
@@moereece855 yea and what about it ?
@@Zoyiekka that's literally discrimination against straight people just because they're straight
She said they are “cooler”. She wasn’t erasing any coolness from straight people all together. And it is true that Disney hero’s are meant to be perfect and heteronormative and at times it makes them bland and a little boring. Like aurora for example,. Is there any defining trait to Aurora? She’s perfect and she’s beauty and that’s about it. Maleficient was a whole lot more interesting
@@moereece855 that’s not what real discrimination is, why do you want to be oppressed so bad lmao
Surprised that no one is talking about how Steven Universe was canceled from being aired on Cartoon Network Arabia half way through the show after being hard censored since it started airing there
Time to move to Arabia
Arabia is smart.
@@LSnium no there not they have dumb minds I thought you were a furry
Change ur name
@@bakugokatsukiytman7863 dumb miinds are better than minds filled with nothing other than sex like yours.
We should have more protagonist LGBT characters, LGBT characters with a happy ending, not the ones who are a joke, villain, or with a sad ending
Also, even the kid from my pfp.
Ercole, a 17 yo villain teen, from Luca movie(pixar,aka Disney,since owns it)
(Suspiciously) queercoded🌈 because his exaggerated effeminacy (not that explícit,since happens fast,his movements are so so fast when he talks or does stuff, to not be noticed at first, ig, but if you rewatch it or slow down the scenes a little bit when he appears,you can notice easily.
You can actually realize it)
I mean,u just need to stare at his hands,legs positions or face movements,and...dang😂(like 80% of the movie is like that,less when...well,the end of the movie,but...heh)
Also,the scenes seem done on purpose to make you hate the character at 1st min on screen, or they make the scenes turn up to the main characters fastly to you as watcher not focus on the villain that much but the main characters
(i had to rewatch the villain's scenes compilation to notice it properly, since in the movie, idk how, they made me get distracted and not notice the kid's body expressing)
And i was like...but...how? This kid is even gayer than my ACTUALLY FEM GAY FRIENDS FROM HIGHSCHOOL! ._.
And... yeah, the villain again 💀
Maybe we wait 10 yrs and they just say the kid is gay or whatever, i mean they've done this stuff so many times, so... LMFAO
Also with how to train your dragon(not disney, it's dreamworks)
The viking village's lumberjack is gay, confirmed in like 2016...? Idk but yrs later after 2nd movie it came out (2014) since ppl were sus and asking creators ab his behaviors (queercoded)
The creators said he has been gay since 1st movie appearance or even the serie they did(between movie 1 and 2,also it kept going after movie 2)
But confirmed it like 7 yrs later lol
@@xd._.28234 exactly
The character in full metal, your pfp is kinda nb
@@fo3858 Envy is genderless, so I think it might be non binary
@@garnett2350 creep
People in the comments when a happy man and a woman get married in a kids cartoon: 🙂
People in the comments when 2 happy woman get married in a kids cartoon: 😨😡😭
Fr
It’s called being normal.
@@C0metm being gay is normal tho.
@@C0metm it's called being a bigot
@@KingNerdius I can literally offend you easily
Actually everyone here
✈️🏢🏢
If you want me to delete it than stop being woke.
Steven's universe's writer looks exactly like I imagined.
Is that supposed to be an insult?
@@xeno4693 not really a surprise that with how her characters look she wouldn't really care about maintain personal appearance. then again I love both stevens universe and adventure time. hope she makes many more cartoons in the future.
She looks like your typical 2020 feminist. The only thing missing is blueberry hair coloring and weekly updates on the length of her armpit hairs
@@xeno4693 maybe
@@shanechannel7066 is that supposed to be an insult?
Growing up as a bi girl in a Christian household I never had anything to count on and I felt so alone. These characters really helped me find myself. I've always felt like a background character in my own life, but now I feel like I don't need anyone's permission.
@Joshua we dont care
@Joshua she don’t care
@- CottageWinnie - How is he rude?
@@shinysweety9822 Used it, still see nothing wrong with it
In Orthodoxy, we believe that Jesus is the ultimate being and that in order to achieve heaven we must aspire to be like Him, as this gentleman's comment said. Mind you, I'm not religious at all, in fact I only go to church for my krsna slava.
@@lukamilosevic661 Just because you believe in that doesn’t mean you should force those believes onto other people
Low-key kinda disappointed you didn't mention Korrasami more. While it is true that we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for the groundbreaking work Rebecca Sugar did. Korrasami was literally the stepping stone that started it all and it's kind of annoying that they get overlooked when we talk about lgbtq rep in western children's media.
Korrasami was NOT good representation. Holding hands at the end of the series in the last 5 seconds is not good representation. I’m aware they’re openly together in the comics, but children watching the show (and like 90% of avatar fans) most likely don’t read those.
@@cryptidnip you missed the point. Korrasami allowed for better representation they literally covered so much in terms of LGBT representation that had stereotypes. The point is that when the whole country is against who you are you need visibility no matter what. Korra had there hands tied and could not do much else. Without the brave decision of Legend of Korras ending there probably would not be a Steven universe in the way we know today.
@@15jewjew speaking as a queer person, no. Nothing about that was “brave” or “allowed” any representation. Holding hands isn’t representation.
@@cryptidnip well it was in 2014, especially considering the restrictions from the network. I mean they almost didn't even make the show because the creators wanted a female protagonist. It was the representation they could get within the context of their particular time and it contributed to more explicit portrayals being made.
@@sparklemittens8301 again, holding hands is not representation in any way, shape or form.
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Bugs bunny kissing was to make it funny and for elmer fudd to be frustrated its not queer it was to make it funny you guys are making this WAY too literal
But the fact is they literally said that it wasnt LGBTQ
ayo thats gay
Yep
correct
Everyone Deserves a good character and representation
What about homomisians?
What about child predators? 🤔
What about straights?
But it is no one's obligation to create that so called representation. It isn't anyone's obligation to do anything in the world of entertainment.
@@GMAV3RICK a character can be anybody, and any character that is represented truthfully fully, and unapologetically. There is good bad and the mfn middle, but we won’t understand different walks if people can’t even create good characters.
Some edgy Christian/Muslim kid
“We should’ve stayed in the 90’s”
Cool you say that i will read the new comments and laugh at homophobic comments
I really hope we get a openly Aroace character at some point
It's a tough thing being Aroace in a world that literally revolves around romance and love
I think it would be really neat and helpful for those Aroace kids finding themselves 🙂
I mean I guess we have Peridot so that is good
Those people only exist in discord and twitter.
@@guestc142 Well
The people on Discord and Twitter exist and talk about it online 😅
I am here and I talk about it
It's a real thing believe it or not
I would know
Because I am one of those people 😅
Perhabs peridot?
Lilith from the owl house
(Gay characters kissing) "omg that is too adult", (hetero characters kissing) "aww"
*boy pecking another boy gently on his cheek* the straights: ewwwwwww get that out of my child’s face!
*a man and a woman making out on the television that kids are watching* the straights: this is fine
Because that's normal
It's completely different
@@TrimVALO how is it different?
@@TrimVALO Normal? What do you mean? Are you living around a rock? Gay people have always existed, and society today is much more inclusive rather than those dumb boomer generation that only follows a book written by old men.
Rebecca Sugar is literally my hero. while you excluded some stuff (like Lumity, or anything outside the US), I thank you for this video Insider. Sometimes it’s just nice to be reminded that progress is, indeed, happening.
You know she drew 18+ art of Ed, Eddn', Eddy right?
@@HoDoBoDo she did W H A T (PFFFTTT LMAO)
@@gwynzynoodles2553 She used to make NSFW for Ed, Eddn', Eddy and Ratatouille...
Queer vs GOP,
just recently covered epicly by Some-More-News.
Sucks that some countries can’t enjoy these shows to the fullest
Blame religion for that
@@modernrebel9175 Yeah
@@modernrebel9175 Atheism is a failed concept.
@@bakedbeans5494 Religion*
@@bakedbeans5494 how
Y'all should title this American cartoons. Anime has been putting stand outs for LGBTQIA+ representation for years now
There is even a genre specifically for LGBTQ+ representation too. Yaoi being one of them.
G̶a̶m̶e̶r̶s̶ Weebs rise up!
@@_Error__
Yaoi is the worst, most of those ships were abusive, toxic, pedophile or incest.
Yuri (girlsxgirls relationship), was very underrated back then but most of those lesbian pairings were more healthy and realistic and were not extremely sexualized like Yaoi pairings.
@@josephwodarczyk977
What about the Tokusatsu weebs?
@@konanxhidan3202 yeah yaoi can get pretty toxic, which is why I prefer shounen ai, since the relationships depicted are way more wholesome than yaoi
I wonder how gen alpha is gonna change the world.. I hope more of them grown up to accept whoever they are and more open about themselves! Spread the love guys not hate 😌🌈
well, conservitives are having most of the babies, thank God.
I'm not against gay people but I do not think children should be shown this at this age
Okay, why?
Idk but its a real Baka Mitai moment for Kipo when she found out her crush is gay
if i had this kind've representation as a kid my path down understanding my sexuality would've been miles less miserable and scary.
I was at first,afraid of making stories with characters more verbally saying they’re sexualities.But after watching this,I am confident in making my characters more vocal about themselves.
Cartoons should be about child things, not about sex.
I remember asking my dad if I could watch a show with a couple lesbian/bisexual scenes in it and he said he would talk to my mom about it and he also said it should be fine as long as I knew I shouldn’t be lesbian/bisexual and it’s wrong in gods eyes. Him saying that hurt my feelings so bad bc I’ve already identified as pansexual I just hadn’t told my parents yet and I believe god loves us for who we are- sorry for the long comment, I kinda vented huh? Sorry- and I respect all beliefs as well- and in case your wondering the show name is owl house
I’m sorry about that, some parents can be cruel and bring wrongly presented religion over their childs happiness. And It’s okay to vent of course! It’s a hurtful memory and similiar things have happened to me ever since I’ve been partially open to my parents as a lesbian, its good to write out what bothers you and it’s good that you did. It’s been a month but I hope you’re okay. You’re valid
"I quickly became homophobic"
Lol
Based
@Helal Vodka hope? Homophobia is awful
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@@lancev2290 like you
Haha samee 😂
Don't know if it's the pregnancy hormones or me already being a sensitive person but I cried watching this. I got so excited, happy, and ugh it's just great and beautiful.
Prob both, a cat adopted baby ducks bc she was high on mama hormones
Congratulations
Not my homophobic mom screaming
shes so sensitive LMAOOOO
I don't normally comment but seeing a lot of dense people here I have to share my thoughts:
Being gay or lgbtq isn't inherently sexual y'know... just like being straight isn't automatically sexual. Whenever you see a girl crushing on a boy do you go "oh no stop it you're shoving it in everyone's faces". Having crushes on people at a young age is normal and healthy to have. You get to learn about your different relationships with others; and it's not like that boy and girl are gonna automatically end up dating right? It's just normal to show kids that "it's ok to have interest in other people, and have feelings of love for them, someday when you're older you'll find that person to share that interest with". How come it all suddenly comes to a stop when queer kids come into the equation? There are such things as queer kids too, yknow. Why can't *they* be considered normal?
Please reevaluate why you think this way and become humble enough to have the compassion to educate yourself. You can end up spitting the same rhetoric that homophobes and transphobes preach that send us backward. The reason lgbtq characters are important in children's animation is to show that is normal for these people to exist; most importantly, that it's normal for kids who ARE lgbtq the exist as they are. Kids learn about straight, crushes, straight relationships, straight marriages at a fairly young age... so why not queer ones? I promise, kids are more intelligent than you think.
(Also this is coming from a person who's country their from is doesn't support same-sex relationships or gender non-conforming people; I know people like me need this more than you do)
So, what's happened here is that you've become confused. The language used in normalization is designed to do that. Allow me to break it down for you.
"Homophobia" is a nonsense word. Correctly transliterated, it would mean "fear of the same". A "homophobe" would be someone who is frightful of people who are like themselves. Of course that's not what the word is supposed to mean. It's supposed to mean fear of people who are different, or something like that. And of course the accusation isn't of fear, but of "hate".
"Heterosexual" is also a silly word because it's redundant. There is nothing denoted by it which isn't denoted in the root word "sex". "Sex" means sexual difference. So, union between male and female is the only sexual "orientation" which is describable as sexual. The only purpose for the word "Heterosexual" is to prefigure a false paradigm by which normal sexuality lies as a point on a gradient coequal with "homosexuality", a word for same-sex eroticism, which is in fact anti-sexual. But there isn't a gradient between these points. There is a dichotomy of 97% normal sexuality and 3% disordered erotic fixations. This normal condition is therefore attacked by the champions of abnormality with another nonsense word, "heteronormativity".
"Heteronormativity" is the word cultural arsonists use to problematize normal sexuality. They posit that an injustice is evident in the way children may freely be exposed to images and messaging which normalizes normal sexuality: Things like mom sleeping in the same bed as dad and marriages and girls kissing boys and male-female dance couples and so forth. Why, they demand to know, is it not so for men kissing men or men performing drag or worse. It's not so confounding in reality. "Heterosexuality" is, quite simply, the method by which the human species reproduces. It is not a "kink" or a fetish or a deviation from health and normalcy as "homosexuality" is. One may as well ask why fisting isn't as socially privileged as respiration.
With all that understood, perhaps it's clearer that, for people who socially identify themselves by their aberrant erotic fixations, reference to their secondary social identities as such are references to their aberrant erotic fixations.
So, if you are reading this, you came to the wrong part of the comments section. There are people who like to write essays around here. Why? Good question.
The first guy could've simply said that heterosexual childhood crushes are considered fine, so why aren't gay crushes? However, he choose to use about 3 paragraphs. So unnecessary. I think he makes a good point, except for that I don't like the idea of LGBT so he must be wrong.
The second guy took it way overkill. He wrote about 10 paragraphs. Just to simply say he disagrees and the first guy is wrong. However, I am not sure if that is what he said in the end since it was too long to read.
These guys must be on computers, typing up thier college entry essays here. It doesn't matter, just prepare to see lots of "Too Long, Didn't Read" comments or "TLDR" comments. Or from the extra lazy, expect the comment "T" Because this was too long to read.
@@clemtoe word
finaly
@@clemtoe he might not be confused but you are certainly confusing him. lol. You can't be a good debater if you don't see things from the opponents viewpoint. Humans (or neologists or whatever) create new words to convey a meaning that cannot be extracted by already existing words. What you were doing in your whole essay was breaking down the terms/words to create new meanings out of them. And when you tried to do that you *confused* yourself even more.
Now, here are the things which are most probably wrong in your reply:
1. Homophobia has been defined as "fear, hatred or discomfort with people who are gay". While it does seem like it is some sort of anxiety disorders like arachnophobia or acrophobia, it might not always be associated with it. Like I said, there is no point in arguing if its a non sense word or not. Its definition matters. Besides, there are plenty of other words in english which don't really mean what they seem to convey.
2. Hetersexual isn't redundant. Let me explain this by an example. Centuries ago, mathematicians used to think a number can be either rational (1.23, 0.99(bar)) or irrational (pi, e). Then after some people started giving meaning to numbers like sqrt(-1), mathematicians realised there is a whole set of new numbers whose inclusion can solve many problems. They called them "imaginary numbers". _Now that we have imaginary numbers, what would we classify rational+irrational numbers as?_ Inclusion of new numbers became the necessity to classify rational+irrational numbers as Real numbers! The same thing happened with the inclusion of term homosexual as classifying others as heterosexual. So I don't think its redundant.
3. Have you ever met a gay person irl? You frequently used the words like "anti-sexual", " disordered erotic fixations", "abnormality", "fetish", "deviation" as attributes of homosexuality. If you met any gay person did you find these attributes inside them? There are many examples of lgbt people who have contributed to the development of society as much as other straight people.
Like Alan Turing who gave us the algorithms and computational strategies by his Turing Machine, most of which have been used to create today's computers and this digital world. Tell me how he could have done this if he was abnormal or deviated?
Tim Cook present Ceo of Apple inc. since 2011. Tell me how he has been running the company for so long if he's been subject to disordered erotic fixations and fetishes? Certainly you are wrong somewhere my dear.
Sally Ride an Astronaut and a physicist, who also did researches on nonlinear optics and thomson scattering. Tell me how she was able to do all of this just like any other straight person, if according to you, her mind was polluted by sexually stuffs and deviations?
Freddie Mercury, of course, I don't need to tell you who he was. How could such a good person write such beautiful songs if according to you, he is abnormal?
What I have come to conclusion is that you are biased, blinded and inexperienced. Biased in the way that you never have took time to think from any single gay's perspective. Inexperienced in the sense that you never actually have any real life experience with lgbt person, blinded by the adult websites you spend time scrolling through to get orgasm, and concluding that all gays are like those pornstars.
sry if I said anything wrong. thx for reading. :)
Imagine feeling offended over this
Even homophobes
8:20 these scenes are so beautiful. I cant wait until they're not just LGBTQ women, its gonna be so much harder to tear down the gay male walls of stereotypes, maybe even harder for trans people.
YESS
Ah i see, you make everything sexual in life, nasty.
@@LSnium you know, for being a blatant furry you'd think that you'd be more accepting of marginalized groups but unfortunately it is not the case.
@@LSnium i dont understand what you mean by "sexual" its a beautiful scene with amazing cinematography, and its two people dancing through a forest expressing their love, it has nothing to do with sex, or anything sexual. And even if you say it has anything to do with sex, why was the straight version allowed on children tv? Or were you brainwashed to think that anyone remotely LGBTQIAP+ is just nasty and only cares about sex? Please, I truly belive that you can also learn to understand, and I know youre a good person despite the words you say in these comments.
@Elios
Look, im fine with only LGB.
Thats it remove the rest, no TQIAZLMNOP+ X pro max
You dont need to question your gender, you have a rod or a hole, when youre born.
My very catholic mom stopped letting me watch Steven Universe when she realized they were lgbtq. I obviously kept watching it though.
Yes!!!! Luv you
Nice one.
God is not pleased with it.
@@M.Sid9.3 and?
@@M.Sid9.3 god doesn't exist
And now we have The Owl House having a bi and lez dating
I mean, its good theres LGBTQ marraige now, but on the same episode as the villains attack? Really? You cant let the gay couple have even 5 minutes of actual happiness without gatecrashing it on the same level as Jesus arising from the dead on the 3rd day?
OK I ALWAYS KNEW MARCELINE AND BUBBLEGUM WERE RUMORED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP. BUT I NEVER FINISHED THE SERIES SO IM MAD YOU JUST REVEALED THEY KISSED WITHOUT A SPOILER ALERT 😡 ILL GET OVER IT BUT AAAHHH!
I know they was something between two of them