That freight spur in new Braunfels is already getting closed down and redeveloped. This is such a good video for someone that’s from new Braunfels that now lives in Austin.
I think it's mostly going to happen based on how long carbrain Boomers are in power. Its widely considered an eyesore and waste of money in Texas, because....
@@LucidStew Texas has a 30 billion dollar budget surplus, so it's not like they're too broke to chip in, there's just not the political will. I'm by no means a "tax and spend" kind of guy, but between that and the power grid they could afford to dip into the state coffers a bit.
There needs to be more investment in local mass transit. The fact that San Antonio is expected to surpass Philly in population yet lacks even a single light rail line to connect downtown to any other part of the city or metro. It'd be GREAT is a student in San Marcos can spend a Sunday on the Riverwalk, but what if they want to visit relatives in a suburb? This is something missing form these high speed rail plans. Acela works well because each station is served by extensive bus. subway and regional rail service. DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, and Boston all have subways that make their Amtrak stations super useful for those who want to get to the suburbs from downtown.
There does but that shouldn’t be the determining factor for whether HSR should be built or not. Brightline is doing fine with little to no connecting transit service. This point comes up often in HSR discussions and it’s a valid one. But I don’t think HSR should wait on local transit to improve to be built.
You gotta have the Temple stop due to the proximity of Fort Cavazos (formerly known as Fort Hood) and it's 45,000 active duty personnel there. As always LuStew, a plethora of ideals you possess.
This looks really good, wish its taken more seriously, if this proposal plus texas central comes a reality then Texas will become an evenmore of a powerhouse. Only thing missing is houston to the Gulf
@@highway2heaven91 Ive been their couple of times the gulf could be revolutionised with HSR with connections to Chicago, Houston, Jacksonville and Atlanta.
Lucid Stew never misses! San Antonio is an insanely decentralized city. Unless you're a tourist, odds are you won't be starting your journey in the city center, but rather somewhere along one of the many ring roads. And despite it being a fairly poor city, everyone in SA has a car (transit is so bad). This station could probably get away with an "outer suburb" station to reduce construction costs, since people will be driving to the station from origins dozens of miles away regardless. Urbanism is not really a thing in SA, so I'd decrease that factor's importance in the model. On the other hand, the biggest missed opportunity in this corridor is the Austin station location, but your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Austin downtown is growing fast, local to a lot of students, and would benefit from the "urbanism" factor being weighed more heavily. Too bad it's inpenetrable. Need a stop at Buc-ee's, or people will drive instead. Banana pudding is a requirement for intra-Texas travel.
Might be possible to put a Hillsboro station at the Buc-ee's at the I-35 triple junction. The French thinking on the concept was to avoid the core of everything except S.A., Fort Worth, Dallas, and Houston. As far as I can tell, they went with Austin-Bergstrom as well. Austin is a very long and narrow metro, and UP runs in the 60ft wide median of SR1 for 4 miles. You can't widen the freeway. So you can either add one electrified, if UP allowed it, or have 2 electrified with UP running on it. I could see it happening, but only after the main line. And we're already talking about something of a fantasy scenario within the next 30-40 years.
I actually favor this combined slightly with a modified Texas Central for Texas/Oklahoma. Dallas to Waco to College Station, then 1 branch to Austin Airport/SAT and another branch to Houston. That would be a good chunk of greenfield though, so I applaud the effort to stick to existing rights of way.
I agree with the College Station connection point. Constructing the exterior legs of the triangle are the longest segments. Building the three legs to a mid point could save well over 100 miles of construction. Also, stopping in an established College Station vs a future development Brazos Valley feels more justifiable.
Stu, loving the video so far, great stuff as always, but I seriously have to pause at OKC so I can push back on the thought of skipping Denton as a stop and using Gainesville instead. As you mentioned, Amtrak already serves Gainesville, but Denton is not served. Additionally, Denton has the A-Train, a light commuter rail that goes along I-35E to the Trinity Mills Station for DART and potential future additions, adding more connectivity/ beneficial redundancy. Finally, Denton is home to the University of North Texas, which - generally speaking - has a student body (~47,000) that would fervently support and use rail connections of this sort. Obviously the video is already made, but if you ever came back to re-examine this….. if you were ever invited to a panel to discuss proposals (a la Ray Delahanty from City Nerd) then I would urge you to consider Denton more strongly.
The video is an example to give an overall impression that people probably don't otherwise have because no one has bothered to think of it in these terms. It's not a blueprint for building the thing. That's a multi-year, multi--hundred-million dollar endeavor that involves multiple rounds of meeting with stakeholders and considering factors far beyond my 10,000 foot view. In my view Krum, 6 miles away, would have sufficed compared to an undesirable station option on the east side of Denton, but who knows what would be included if someone actually tried building something like this.
A good extension of this corridor would be to Monterrey, N.L. (Mexico) through Laredo, Texas. Monterrey metro has about 5 million and growing and is the most prosperous area in Mexico, while Laredo and Nuevo Laredo have about 900,000 residents.
Honestly, Lucid, there’s an option that hasn’t been investigated because the railroad is abandoned Rock Island. The route starts at Tucumcari, NM and follows I-40 through Oklahoma City and onto Tulsa the route also continues to Little Rock, AR, and could eventually connect to Nashville, TN. The route was abandoned in 1980 and has had many attempts at rebuilding service between NM, OK, AR, and TN. By buying an abandoned right-of-way it would cost more initially, but it could be electrified as there are power plants in OK and AR. Also buy building the service through mostly abandoned North Texas and central OK, since it already sees Amtrak Service it could be upgraded as time and money allow.
I think you might be onto something. This route would provide a way to travel by train between the South and the Southwest that crosses the Mississippi at a point other than Chicago, New Orleans, or St. Louis, helping eliminate potential bottlenecks in those areas. Couple that with the proposed revived service on the “Meridian Speedway” going west from Meridian, MS via either Birmingham or Montgomery, through Vicksburg, on past Shreveport and going to Dallas/Fort Worth and there’s plenty of east-west links.
Also there's the old Rock Island's Choctaw Route which runs between Amarillo, Texas and Memphis, Tennessee also could be rebuild as well and as well the Kansas, Oklahoma & Gulf Railway mainline from Denison, Texas to Baxter Springs, Kansas by Muskogee, Oklahoma and McAlester, Oklahoma on the way as well. And Midland Valley Route from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Wichita, Kansas also good route for high speed trains
The former railroad I want to see returned is the former Burlington Texas Zephyr route from Denver to Huuston thru Colorado Springs, Amarillo, and Dallas-Fort Worth... This overnight sleeper train route would provide the Deep South and Texas a more direct train route to Colorado's ski resorts and national parks in the Rockies... As well as provide a daily train from Denver to Colorado Springs and a daily train from Dallas to Houston... There is much more to America than the northeast corridor and Chicago Amtrak...
Great work as always! Good job making I-35 work from AUS to SAT. I gave up and made a bypass using Hwy 183/Pickle Pkwy which is has a median. For downtown Austin, I would use Mopac expy and build a viaduct over the freight tracks. They did the exact same thing with I-35 through Austin!
Those surface parking lots in Fort Worth were recently announced to be turned into new Texas A&M University buildings that are at least 7 stories tall. But there is an under utilized building near Fort Worth Central station that could combine with the next door Ashton Depot (a former rail station) to make an awesome dedicated HRS station if you dont want to use Fort Worth Central Station
Good video. Always enjoy the content you upload. I'm hoping one day the U.S. has a robust HSR network, but I think what we will end up with is a handful of HSR routes in different regions of the country
15:00 My hope for DFW High Speed link is that it would deviate slightly to stop at the airport and act as an express service for the two current routes out to the airport.
Doesn't the Trinity Railway Express serve DFW airport with a bus connector to the numerous DFW airport terminals? I am OPPOSED to any HSR running along the median of I-30... It won't be any faster than the TRE... HSR trains do not go fast in urban areas, they hit their top speed in rural areas WORLDWIDE...
@ronclark9724 i modeled it and it was 15 minutes from Dallas to Fort Worth INCLUDING a stop at DFW. I don't know about the TRE but I know the Orange Line takes about an hour from downtown Dallas. The DFW area deserves better than that
I like the Austin By-Pass. While downtown stations are nice, airports aren’t built right downtown (usually)- people will commute out to airports when needed - and the same is true with high speed rail. It’s really about comparing the travel time to airport and train station respectively, on local transit (and by driving) to get a sense of how long it takes to get there.
He did include Georgetown when talking about the development of regional rail services along this route, but yeah I was gobsmacked that Denton got left out!
@@ronclark9724 yes, I am aware, as I mentioned in a separate comment………. I was surprised that Stu did not make a stop on this theoretical mainline in Denton, but rather went from Fort Worth to Gainesville.
Many stops for HSR. But I guess build it right with passing tracks at (some of) the smaller stations and do build the extra ones you showed, then you could have a line with Expresses going between the major stations and regionals doing all-stopping services. All able to go the same high top speed. Similar to Acela and the Northeast Regional. Make the stations well connected locally, and allow the surrounding blocks to actually develop, and bam! Texas is a place where the train going every half hour along this spine just goes without saying for everyone.
The amazing thing to me is that they could have already had it for 20 years now, but took a pass. Now its going to get more difficult and more expensive with each passing year. People don't understand you have consider these things 30 years into the future, not now. Look at the effect NOW in Europe, Japan, China from building it 30-50 years ago.
I think it's an interesting note that you've dealt with the issue of the Del Rio sub out of SP Sunset going east instead of north by just rebuilding the turnout with Austin ML 2 at the end of East Yard. As the tree lines might imply, one kind of used to exist, but it was a small transfer between the SP and MKT sides of Fort Sam Houston's formerly quite extensive rail system. The Texas Eagle actually reverses for several miles out of the station to get on Austin ML 1 this reason. Other rail proposals such as the infamous Lone Star Rail have always used the old MP station on the other side of downtown on Austin ML 1, which has the distinct advantage of actually going northbound. The station and its former yard are also already owned by Via transit, but of course Sunset is more ideal just for its location.
That was where I looked first, but the right of way is narrow north of there for a bit. In hindsight the east side station has the same problem. Out to New Braunfels those 2 are pretty similar. From what I can tell the Texas TGV plans would have continued in or next to Del Rio past Randolph AFB, then greenfield to the northeast to Austin-Bergstrom. In the south that deviation appears to start at Cibolo. I'm looking at populations. Cibolo 1990: 1,700. 2023: 32k. New Braunfels 1990: 27k. 2023: 110k. Really remarkable how much easier that direction would have been 30 years ago.
I don’t understand why Amtrak can’t implement this, sure funding is always an issue when it comes to high-speed rail in America. But at this point I’m pretty sure Amtrak has the money for this. Idk man, I’m I’m pretty much feeling what that guy at the end of this video. Just Watching your videos LucidStew just makes you feel like Amtrak should be implementing these routes now! Sending love to the amount of work you put into these videos!!👏👏
It might be a weird video to try out, but what about a hypothetical Cheyenne to Denver to Colorado Springs? The population is so much lower than this Texas route, but the terrain is so flat and there's so many possible intermediary stations to connect one of the other fastest-growing regions together with HSR. There are somehow actually flights between Denver and Colorado Springs/Cheyenne, which is so ridiclous I can hardly fathom it, so it'd be really fun to see just how much a line like this would create time savings (and, basically, a regional commuter rail)
How about Amtrak bring back the former Burlington Texas Zephyr, an overnight sleeper train from Denver to Houston thru Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Amarillo, and Dallas-Fort Worth? At least the eastern slope of the Rockies between Denver and Trinidad would be done... If Colorado wanted a less than 250 mile regional train to Fort Collins, let the state fund a regional Amtrak train...
Curious what the San Antonio to Austin segment would cost. Seems like a commuter line with future HSR usage corridor (similar to Caltrain in California) would have an immediate benefit, especially if the area is rapidly developing.
this route is interesting but to not go beyond Tulsa makes the effort of this project outside of Texas pretty pointless. Now using this as a means to upgrade the freight right of ways however makes this venture more economically an amazing Idea. However as you mentioned there needs to be quad track almost the entire route and you'd need UP and BNSF wanting to do this major infrastructure upgrade also. which considering the industry growth in Texas would make the route from San Antonio to Fort Worth almost a guarantee to happen if Amtrak or another third party wanted to have a high-speed route built and the freight railroads wanted to move freight faster improving their services. Now the next video to Arkansas instead of Oklahoma with the same idea of improving the freight lines and re-adding spurs to the bases and contractors would probably get done and have UP and CSX jumping to get it done with whoever proposed it being Amtrak or some other third party.
There’s another triangle in Texas, y’all. It’s called the Golden Triangle and it’s formed by Dallas, Fort Worth, and Denton, which sits at the meeting point of I-35E and I-35W, so here’s another (former) Dentonite chiming in to vote for a Denton station instead of Gainesville
I'd be interested to see what a HSR from El Paso north to Alburquerque then to Denver, Cheyenne, Casper up to Billings Montana would look like. Long and costly and while the populations are small maybe this could go a long way to make these places not so remote.
Have you considered doing a concept for extension of Brightline West from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City in time for the 2034 Winter Olympics, using the Rio Grande Plan as the Salt Lake City terminus?
The TX part of the proposal looks good if you are willing to deviate east or west by 15 to 20 miles, considering the existing routing for the Texas-Oklahoma Amtrak and the two railroad companies' long standing political spats with various local communities. For example, Amtrak does not go through Waco, it instead goes through, with a stop in, McGregor, due to Amtrak using BNSF while UP goes through Waco with no Amtrak contract. The two railroads have an inter-tie in Temple. Waco has restricted UP to ten mph, local politics dating back several years, if not decades.Times change, people change. Has potential. Love the idea that centex is on the list for potential HSR.
I'm taking some liberties with Waco in eliminating the track-side street Jackson Ave, but it just seems like this would be of tremendous benefit to Waco in this configuration. It's in the middle of a fast part and would provide great access to Austin and Fort Worth, greatly expanding the city's economic sphere, and having it dump right out into downtown. The option is a station 4 miles from downtown in a field by a highway intersection. I guess the tracks would be there anyway so may as well have a station, but seems like a shame to burn the downtown area like that.
@@LucidStew I agree totally with that concept. Having grown up in a railroad family, I have been dismayed several times watching the railroads chip away at the total trackage and the quality of service they provide. I also get irritated at the fight between railroads and the towns over who will pay for replacing a grade crossing in the middle of town with an overpass or underpass. I live in a dinky little town with eight grade crossings in two miles. There are a couple of locomotive engineers who will get on the horn for the crossings, (especially at two AM) and stay on it continuously until they have passed the last crossing. Since most of the town is within three blocks of the tracks, it has eliminated all chances for a compromise between town and railroad. Also, Amtrak doesn't stop here, even though it goes through twice a day. This is an old political grievance, not easily solved. UP treats the population in Waco with the same disdain as does BNSF in my little town. Goes back decades. Do I want to see HSR in this area? Hell yes! Do I expect to see it? Unfortunately, no. Too much water under the bridge, for too many years. Too many egos involved. But then, some day pigs may fly!
Once you finish covering all of the different corridors are you going to make a video that shows the entire US network and ways to connect different corridors to one another?
Actually Texas and Oklahoma are funding Amtrak's regional train, the Heartland Flyer... Amtrak maybe operating the train, but Amtrak hasn't funded this train a single cent...
Is it possible to partially electrify the network, and have the train run off batteries when overhead wires aren’t feasible? I know this is used on some non-high speed lines, but not sure if it’s compatible with high-speed rail.
On-battery speed isn't very good, atm. There probably needs to be some sort of breakthrough in practical energy storage density. Other than that you have turbine diesel-electric or hydrogen, which can do about 150mph.
I don't know if a connection to DFW is included in the next video, but a direct HSR connection to DFW - either as a spur or as the midpoint of the Fort Worth-Dallas HSR connection - would be a huge benefit. Also, the bridge between I-244 and the old US 66 is a pedestrian bridge which looks like it was four lanes plus two sidewalks; it measures about 50 feet wide. The HSR could occupy the west half of the bridge still leaving the east half for pedestrians and cyclists. Some highway ramps would need rebuilding but this design is not a problem if the rail line is terminating at Tulsa and not continuing to KC or Springfield.
I'm already having a hard enough time producing these things. I unfortunately don't have time to come up with a whole ridership estimate that could inform a schedule that would determine how much equipment is required that would tell you what the maintenance costs would be.
So you're skipping Denton,Texas? It's home to the University of North Texas, Texas Women's University, and the historically Black Texas College. You usually love to add college ridership to your proposed high speed rail lines.
Given that Texas can't keep the lights on, perhaps the trains should be 160 MPH gas-turbines, bet you could push that to 180 MPH. Skipping Austin seems fine with light rail transit connection, HSR in East Asia often skips city centers in favor of big suburban stations that can anchor new business districts. These cities have high growth rates, so they are similar to China in that regard.
That would be freight, and there's already several freight rail lines going from OK down in to Texas and several lines in Texas go to Houston. i.e. what you suggest already exists. The video is about passenger rail tho.
I dont really see the reason to put the rail station in Burleson just yet. Yeah its growing but its still pretty spread out and not much more than a suburb of Fort Worth atm. Denton, however, could 100% use one. It's pretty similar to Waco and has a light rail line direct to Dallas. It makes for a very natural linkup to the hsr and has a sufficient population to support it.
Considering the population growth patterns this should be one of the top priority projects in the nation, if it weren't constrained by GOP thinking that is... But these cities are increasingly Blue which will lead to more of a priority for public transit projects of all kinds I am sure...
If your state lege doesn’t prevent it. I understand they already banned future toll-funded urban highway projects, since the lege doesn’t control them.
omg, as a ftw native, and exhaustive driver between ftw and austin, I've been wanting good rail fr. dfw thru to san Antonio FOREVER. I just don't think the political will is there yet... and there's also the Texas Railroad Commission to deal with. politics in tx. is ass-backwards 4 sure
To put it into terms that give it a bit more perspective, that's: 0.2% annual gdp, what the federal highway administration spends in a year, 4 aircraft carriers, $5 billion less than aid so far to Ukraine 6% of what we'll spend on interest servicing the national debt this year.
@@stanley917 Sure, but it would be in place for a hundred years or more. By then the population of Texas will likely be as much as 50 or 60 million. $1700/5 generations/2 times population = $170
@@LucidStew unfortunately, it will have to be paid for now, not spread over 100 years/5 generations into the future. And there is a significant cost associated with maintenance of way and rolling stock, electrical power for the locomotives, train crew/conductors, etc., etc. etc.. And the real area of service is not over the entire state - the total population of Texas may have to pay for so a group of Dallas and Houston residents can use it.
@@stanley917 The value and depreciation are spread over time. Amtrak covers operating costs on the NEC. No reason to assume a similarly populated area wouldn't. The vast majority of the population of Texas lives in the Texas Triangle area. This would also drive economic activity that would benefit the entire state.
I'm making the assumption in these videos that freight rail companies are going to cooperate as little as possible. If freight rail rights of way were fully accessible, that would make things much easier in many places.
I just realized what those from-the-air (or satellite) pics of US cities remind me of: they remind me of the bombed-out German cities after WW II, most of the area looking like a wasteland, not like a city. (I'm not claiming anything beyond that's an association I have when I look at them.)
How much of an issue are land rights? How much money is eaten up by legal battles? Is it better to offer a generous compensation up front to avoid such battles? Maybe legislation can be passed specifically for such projects to streamline the process but still provide a healthy compensation. As it is now, it reminds me of an old Bugs Bunny cartoon in which a freeway was built around his rabbit hole because he refused to move. The cartoon was probably created when the Interstate Highway System was being constructed. Perhaps it is time to update the cartoon.
Well, we are talking about Texas. The state legislature has fought Texas Central tooth and nail, losing only because the courts ended up siding with the project. Even still, the state has managed to delay the project by at least 7-8 years if we're being generous.
Is the problem with Austin the curve as you get to the current amtrak station? because it looks on google and open railways map that the right of way is 75ish feet enough for 4 tracks and UP is single track there. I'd say getting to the urban core of such a large city is too important, to blow off with a stop next to the airport and putting in a 7 mile tunnel would be worth it. Pop back into the UP right of way around the West 35th street interchange.
It's closer to 60ft and you're not going to fit 2 electrified tracks and a freight track in that space. There's also no chance of widening the freeway, like would happen with I-30 and DFW HST. Austin is already pretty urban, and an airport station served by light rail would only be 10 miles from the core.
how much bigger then texarkana is tulsa and way dose it go east to tulsa and not north to wichita. and probably kansas vity is a much more logical hsr line the kansas city - denver is.
Texarkana is about 1/6 the size of Tulsa. I don't know why they defined the corridor the way they did, but it doesn't include between Arkansas and Tulsa. It's forked at Dallas/Ft. Worth.
I just hope NXT ADMINISTRATION is PRO RAIL. Our URGENCY is MAKING DOUBLE TRACKS connect these cities....Once double tracks is established then TRAVELING TIME is reduced significantly! RIGHT NOW, Americans don't have good rail option. AIR and FREEWAY are approaching MAX CAPACITY so we need RAIL for other option.
Airport stops can be important as those service points have an established ability to handle large numbers of intercity travelers, which is also a major market segment for HSR. It may not matter for cities of multi-millions but can be an important consideration for smaller metros.
More expensive. If one considers $51 billion inexpensive, then go for it. The basic idea here is that the U.S. doesn't have the stomach for HSR, so I'm not going to aim too high and make it an instant 'no'.
This is never going to happen. The people in these parts of the country are too greedy and stupid to pull this off. California High-Speed Rail will barely occur in the San Joaquin Valley, and that's with a culture that's far more pro-public infrastructure projects.
Thanks again. At current pace, I do believe the first year at least will be covered all the way. Maybe it will even accelerate once those videos start, who knows?
the okc-tulsa section would be so popular even if it was only bi-hourly
Can I ask why this route would be so popular? How many people travel between the 3 each day? thanks
That freight spur in new Braunfels is already getting closed down and redeveloped. This is such a good video for someone that’s from new Braunfels that now lives in Austin.
Let's hope Texas Central gets built and is successful, neither of which are guarantees.
Like most HSR projects, it's down to the funding, which is going to be tough for the foreseeable future.
I think it's mostly going to happen based on how long carbrain Boomers are in power. Its widely considered an eyesore and waste of money in Texas, because....
@@LucidStew Texas has a 30 billion dollar budget surplus, so it's not like they're too broke to chip in, there's just not the political will. I'm by no means a "tax and spend" kind of guy, but between that and the power grid they could afford to dip into the state coffers a bit.
All down to who wins the election. Not ever happening if Trump wins
There needs to be more investment in local mass transit. The fact that San Antonio is expected to surpass Philly in population yet lacks even a single light rail line to connect downtown to any other part of the city or metro. It'd be GREAT is a student in San Marcos can spend a Sunday on the Riverwalk, but what if they want to visit relatives in a suburb? This is something missing form these high speed rail plans. Acela works well because each station is served by extensive bus. subway and regional rail service. DC, Baltimore, Philly, NYC, and Boston all have subways that make their Amtrak stations super useful for those who want to get to the suburbs from downtown.
Land use would be the difficult thing, but not insurmountable.
@@PASH3227 SA band light rail. There just now finally getting a BRT.
@@freefour6325 that's ridiculous
There does but that shouldn’t be the determining factor for whether HSR should be built or not. Brightline is doing fine with little to no connecting transit service.
This point comes up often in HSR discussions and it’s a valid one. But I don’t think HSR should wait on local transit to improve to be built.
Regional rail
Love these “could be “ videos! Would be amazing to have HSR in the US.
You gotta have the Temple stop due to the proximity of Fort Cavazos (formerly known as Fort Hood) and it's 45,000 active duty personnel there. As always LuStew, a plethora of ideals you possess.
51 billion is an absolute steal
I suspect it would be more like $151 by the time they get around to it.
This looks really good, wish its taken more seriously, if this proposal plus texas central comes a reality then Texas will become an evenmore of a powerhouse. Only thing missing is houston to the Gulf
Yes, people always forget how popular the gulf beaches are.
@@highway2heaven91 Ive been their couple of times the gulf could be revolutionised with HSR with connections to Chicago, Houston, Jacksonville and Atlanta.
Which route would get you to Chicago from the gulf?
@@highway2heaven91 One that follows the Interstate 55, it covers alot of cities
Great video as always. Loved the inclusion of a "local" HST and a sprinter/express HST
Lucid Stew never misses!
San Antonio is an insanely decentralized city. Unless you're a tourist, odds are you won't be starting your journey in the city center, but rather somewhere along one of the many ring roads. And despite it being a fairly poor city, everyone in SA has a car (transit is so bad). This station could probably get away with an "outer suburb" station to reduce construction costs, since people will be driving to the station from origins dozens of miles away regardless. Urbanism is not really a thing in SA, so I'd decrease that factor's importance in the model.
On the other hand, the biggest missed opportunity in this corridor is the Austin station location, but your reasoning makes a lot of sense. Austin downtown is growing fast, local to a lot of students, and would benefit from the "urbanism" factor being weighed more heavily. Too bad it's inpenetrable.
Need a stop at Buc-ee's, or people will drive instead. Banana pudding is a requirement for intra-Texas travel.
Might be possible to put a Hillsboro station at the Buc-ee's at the I-35 triple junction. The French thinking on the concept was to avoid the core of everything except S.A., Fort Worth, Dallas, and Houston. As far as I can tell, they went with Austin-Bergstrom as well. Austin is a very long and narrow metro, and UP runs in the 60ft wide median of SR1 for 4 miles. You can't widen the freeway. So you can either add one electrified, if UP allowed it, or have 2 electrified with UP running on it. I could see it happening, but only after the main line. And we're already talking about something of a fantasy scenario within the next 30-40 years.
Buc-ee’s could just open a store inside of the HSR stations if the lines become popular enough.
Buc-ee's and Whataburger at every station.
@@LucidStew They already have Whataburger in Texas Airports.
Yay first like on the video, and when I scroll down I see I'm the first comment. Keep up the amazing work Stew! Love all that you do.
Fantastic. I'm so glad I found your channel. Looking forward to the Brightline West series.
Yeah, Stew is the fuckin best. Detailed and original.
Thanks!
Thank you. We're well on our way to trip #4 for Rancho-Vegas
I actually favor this combined slightly with a modified Texas Central for Texas/Oklahoma. Dallas to Waco to College Station, then 1 branch to Austin Airport/SAT and another branch to Houston. That would be a good chunk of greenfield though, so I applaud the effort to stick to existing rights of way.
I was thinking about doing Houston-S.A. at some point and going over the various options. Or I might do a Texas Triangle video at some point.
I agree with the College Station connection point. Constructing the exterior legs of the triangle are the longest segments. Building the three legs to a mid point could save well over 100 miles of construction. Also, stopping in an established College Station vs a future development Brazos Valley feels more justifiable.
Stu, loving the video so far, great stuff as always, but I seriously have to pause at OKC so I can push back on the thought of skipping Denton as a stop and using Gainesville instead. As you mentioned, Amtrak already serves Gainesville, but Denton is not served. Additionally, Denton has the A-Train, a light commuter rail that goes along I-35E to the Trinity Mills Station for DART and potential future additions, adding more connectivity/ beneficial redundancy. Finally, Denton is home to the University of North Texas, which - generally speaking - has a student body (~47,000) that would fervently support and use rail connections of this sort.
Obviously the video is already made, but if you ever came back to re-examine this….. if you were ever invited to a panel to discuss proposals (a la Ray Delahanty from City Nerd) then I would urge you to consider Denton more strongly.
The video is an example to give an overall impression that people probably don't otherwise have because no one has bothered to think of it in these terms. It's not a blueprint for building the thing. That's a multi-year, multi--hundred-million dollar endeavor that involves multiple rounds of meeting with stakeholders and considering factors far beyond my 10,000 foot view. In my view Krum, 6 miles away, would have sufficed compared to an undesirable station option on the east side of Denton, but who knows what would be included if someone actually tried building something like this.
A good extension of this corridor would be to Monterrey, N.L. (Mexico) through Laredo, Texas. Monterrey metro has about 5 million and growing and is the most prosperous area in Mexico, while Laredo and Nuevo Laredo have about 900,000 residents.
Honestly, Lucid, there’s an option that hasn’t been investigated because the railroad is abandoned Rock Island.
The route starts at Tucumcari, NM and follows I-40 through Oklahoma City and onto Tulsa the route also continues to Little Rock, AR, and could eventually connect to Nashville, TN.
The route was abandoned in 1980 and has had many attempts at rebuilding service between NM, OK, AR, and TN. By buying an abandoned right-of-way it would cost more initially, but it could be electrified as there are power plants in OK and AR.
Also buy building the service through mostly abandoned North Texas and central OK, since it already sees Amtrak Service it could be upgraded as time and money allow.
I think you might be onto something. This route would provide a way to travel by train between the South and the Southwest that crosses the Mississippi at a point other than Chicago, New Orleans, or St. Louis, helping eliminate potential bottlenecks in those areas.
Couple that with the proposed revived service on the “Meridian Speedway” going west from Meridian, MS via either Birmingham or Montgomery, through Vicksburg, on past Shreveport and going to Dallas/Fort Worth and there’s plenty of east-west links.
Also there's the old Rock Island's Choctaw Route which runs between Amarillo, Texas and Memphis, Tennessee also could be rebuild as well and as well the Kansas, Oklahoma & Gulf Railway mainline from Denison, Texas to Baxter Springs, Kansas by Muskogee, Oklahoma and McAlester, Oklahoma on the way as well.
And Midland Valley Route from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Wichita, Kansas also good route for high speed trains
The former railroad I want to see returned is the former Burlington Texas Zephyr route from Denver to Huuston thru Colorado Springs, Amarillo, and Dallas-Fort Worth... This overnight sleeper train route would provide the Deep South and Texas a more direct train route to Colorado's ski resorts and national parks in the Rockies... As well as provide a daily train from Denver to Colorado Springs and a daily train from Dallas to Houston... There is much more to America than the northeast corridor and Chicago Amtrak...
Well thought out and nicely presented!
Great work as always! Good job making I-35 work from AUS to SAT. I gave up and made a bypass using Hwy 183/Pickle Pkwy which is has a median. For downtown Austin, I would use Mopac expy and build a viaduct over the freight tracks. They did the exact same thing with I-35 through Austin!
Those surface parking lots in Fort Worth were recently announced to be turned into new Texas A&M University buildings that are at least 7 stories tall. But there is an under utilized building near Fort Worth Central station that could combine with the next door Ashton Depot (a former rail station) to make an awesome dedicated HRS station if you dont want to use Fort Worth Central Station
Good video. Always enjoy the content you upload. I'm hoping one day the U.S. has a robust HSR network, but I think what we will end up with is a handful of HSR routes in different regions of the country
This will be a nice country if they ever get it finished.
Another potential extension could be from Oklahoma City or Tulsa to Wichita Kansas.
You would actually want to extend it up past Wichita to where the Amtrak line running from Kansas City to Albuquerque is located in Newton, KS.
Let's hope it gets built soon!
Yeah this stuff would be pretty interesting.
Love your content LS, keep it up! (commenting for the algo )❤
Appreciated!
19:02 my house is on the left side of I-35 right next to the highway.. but just out of frame, I lived 🥳
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My hope for DFW High Speed link is that it would deviate slightly to stop at the airport and act as an express service for the two current routes out to the airport.
Doesn't the Trinity Railway Express serve DFW airport with a bus connector to the numerous DFW airport terminals? I am OPPOSED to any HSR running along the median of I-30... It won't be any faster than the TRE... HSR trains do not go fast in urban areas, they hit their top speed in rural areas WORLDWIDE...
@ronclark9724 i modeled it and it was 15 minutes from Dallas to Fort Worth INCLUDING a stop at DFW. I don't know about the TRE but I know the Orange Line takes about an hour from downtown Dallas. The DFW area deserves better than that
as a texan concert goer i would LOVE a train dallas - austin, i would save SO much money in gas alone
Awesome video! Could you also consider a Houston to Austin/San Antonio video?
I like the Austin By-Pass. While downtown stations are nice, airports aren’t built right downtown (usually)- people will commute out to airports when needed - and the same is true with high speed rail. It’s really about comparing the travel time to airport and train station respectively, on local transit (and by driving) to get a sense of how long it takes to get there.
Trains should serve downtown central business districts, not airports in the boondocks...
One of those bridges in Tulsa is not used and could be demolished and replaced.
I also am willing to go to Vegas more often :D
Don't forget to add Georgetown and Denton as potential stops for this line.
He did include Georgetown when talking about the development of regional rail services along this route, but yeah I was gobsmacked that Denton got left out!
@@mikeybpotts3915to serve the University of North Texas campus in or near Denton.
@@MrKelleyalexander right. I agree. I was surprised that Denton got skipped.
@@mikeybpotts3915 DCTA runs a Stadler GTW DMU from Denton to a Carrollton DART station like Austin's CapMetro Stadler GTW DMU to Leander...
@@ronclark9724 yes, I am aware, as I mentioned in a separate comment………. I was surprised that Stu did not make a stop on this theoretical mainline in Denton, but rather went from Fort Worth to Gainesville.
Many stops for HSR.
But I guess build it right with passing tracks at (some of) the smaller stations and do build the extra ones you showed, then you could have a line with Expresses going between the major stations and regionals doing all-stopping services. All able to go the same high top speed. Similar to Acela and the Northeast Regional. Make the stations well connected locally, and allow the surrounding blocks to actually develop, and bam! Texas is a place where the train going every half hour along this spine just goes without saying for everyone.
The amazing thing to me is that they could have already had it for 20 years now, but took a pass. Now its going to get more difficult and more expensive with each passing year. People don't understand you have consider these things 30 years into the future, not now. Look at the effect NOW in Europe, Japan, China from building it 30-50 years ago.
Can you do a video like this about Nashville/Middle Tennessee area. I think you mentioned about Nashville in your Chicago Hub video.
I think it's an interesting note that you've dealt with the issue of the Del Rio sub out of SP Sunset going east instead of north by just rebuilding the turnout with Austin ML 2 at the end of East Yard. As the tree lines might imply, one kind of used to exist, but it was a small transfer between the SP and MKT sides of Fort Sam Houston's formerly quite extensive rail system. The Texas Eagle actually reverses for several miles out of the station to get on Austin ML 1 this reason.
Other rail proposals such as the infamous Lone Star Rail have always used the old MP station on the other side of downtown on Austin ML 1, which has the distinct advantage of actually going northbound. The station and its former yard are also already owned by Via transit, but of course Sunset is more ideal just for its location.
That was where I looked first, but the right of way is narrow north of there for a bit. In hindsight the east side station has the same problem. Out to New Braunfels those 2 are pretty similar. From what I can tell the Texas TGV plans would have continued in or next to Del Rio past Randolph AFB, then greenfield to the northeast to Austin-Bergstrom. In the south that deviation appears to start at Cibolo. I'm looking at populations. Cibolo 1990: 1,700. 2023: 32k. New Braunfels 1990: 27k. 2023: 110k. Really remarkable how much easier that direction would have been 30 years ago.
I don’t understand why Amtrak can’t implement this, sure funding is always an issue when it comes to high-speed rail in America. But at this point I’m pretty sure Amtrak has the money for this. Idk man, I’m I’m pretty much feeling what that guy at the end of this video. Just Watching your videos LucidStew just makes you feel like Amtrak should be implementing these routes now! Sending love to the amount of work you put into these videos!!👏👏
It might be a weird video to try out, but what about a hypothetical Cheyenne to Denver to Colorado Springs? The population is so much lower than this Texas route, but the terrain is so flat and there's so many possible intermediary stations to connect one of the other fastest-growing regions together with HSR. There are somehow actually flights between Denver and Colorado Springs/Cheyenne, which is so ridiclous I can hardly fathom it, so it'd be really fun to see just how much a line like this would create time savings (and, basically, a regional commuter rail)
How about Amtrak bring back the former Burlington Texas Zephyr, an overnight sleeper train from Denver to Houston thru Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Amarillo, and Dallas-Fort Worth? At least the eastern slope of the Rockies between Denver and Trinidad would be done... If Colorado wanted a less than 250 mile regional train to Fort Collins, let the state fund a regional Amtrak train...
@@ronclark9724 More north-south Amtrak routes in general would be great.
Curious what the San Antonio to Austin segment would cost. Seems like a commuter line with future HSR usage corridor (similar to Caltrain in California) would have an immediate benefit, especially if the area is rapidly developing.
this route is interesting but to not go beyond Tulsa makes the effort of this project outside of Texas pretty pointless. Now using this as a means to upgrade the freight right of ways however makes this venture more economically an amazing Idea. However as you mentioned there needs to be quad track almost the entire route and you'd need UP and BNSF wanting to do this major infrastructure upgrade also. which considering the industry growth in Texas would make the route from San Antonio to Fort Worth almost a guarantee to happen if Amtrak or another third party wanted to have a high-speed route built and the freight railroads wanted to move freight faster improving their services. Now the next video to Arkansas instead of Oklahoma with the same idea of improving the freight lines and re-adding spurs to the bases and contractors would probably get done and have UP and CSX jumping to get it done with whoever proposed it being Amtrak or some other third party.
Haha missed opportunity for “Nawrth of Fawrt Wawrth” 😉
All of the south, north, and worth wasn't easy. I almost DID say that. :D
There’s another triangle in Texas, y’all. It’s called the Golden Triangle and it’s formed by Dallas, Fort Worth, and Denton, which sits at the meeting point of I-35E and I-35W, so here’s another (former) Dentonite chiming in to vote for a Denton station instead of Gainesville
It really doesn't need to be an either-or situation.
One idea is to have stops on the edges of cities, so people do no have to backtrack from a single hub.
25:15 do you have a slide with cost estimates per segment? ie San Ant-Austin, Austin DFW, DFW OKC, OKC-Tulsa?
No, but I still have the Google maps route. Give me some time and I can break it down.
I'd be interested to see what a HSR from El Paso north to Alburquerque then to Denver, Cheyenne, Casper up to Billings Montana would look like. Long and costly and while the populations are small maybe this could go a long way to make these places not so remote.
If you’re going up to Billings, you might as well try to reach Calgary in order to get another big city on the line.
@@highway2heaven91 sure makes sense to me.
if were talking Canada i want to see a coast-to-coast HSR too haha
@@highway2heaven91 I just realized how funny it would be for Canada to have their first HSR go from Calgary to the US hahaha
Lucid Stew should be the rail czar
Have you considered doing a concept for extension of Brightline West from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City in time for the 2034 Winter Olympics, using the Rio Grande Plan as the Salt Lake City terminus?
The TX part of the proposal looks good if you are willing to deviate east or west by 15 to 20 miles, considering the existing routing for the Texas-Oklahoma Amtrak and the two railroad companies' long standing political spats with various local communities. For example, Amtrak does not go through Waco, it instead goes through, with a stop in, McGregor, due to Amtrak using BNSF while UP goes through Waco with no Amtrak contract. The two railroads have an inter-tie in Temple. Waco has restricted UP to ten mph, local politics dating back several years, if not decades.Times change, people change. Has potential. Love the idea that centex is on the list for potential HSR.
I'm taking some liberties with Waco in eliminating the track-side street Jackson Ave, but it just seems like this would be of tremendous benefit to Waco in this configuration. It's in the middle of a fast part and would provide great access to Austin and Fort Worth, greatly expanding the city's economic sphere, and having it dump right out into downtown. The option is a station 4 miles from downtown in a field by a highway intersection. I guess the tracks would be there anyway so may as well have a station, but seems like a shame to burn the downtown area like that.
@@LucidStew I agree totally with that concept. Having grown up in a railroad family, I have been dismayed several times watching the railroads chip away at the total trackage and the quality of service they provide. I also get irritated at the fight between railroads and the towns over who will pay for replacing a grade crossing in the middle of town with an overpass or underpass. I live in a dinky little town with eight grade crossings in two miles. There are a couple of locomotive engineers who will get on the horn for the crossings, (especially at two AM) and stay on it continuously until they have passed the last crossing. Since most of the town is within three blocks of the tracks, it has eliminated all chances for a compromise between town and railroad. Also, Amtrak doesn't stop here, even though it goes through twice a day. This is an old political grievance, not easily solved. UP treats the population in Waco with the same disdain as does BNSF in my little town. Goes back decades. Do I want to see HSR in this area? Hell yes! Do I expect to see it? Unfortunately, no. Too much water under the bridge, for too many years. Too many egos involved. But then, some day pigs may fly!
@@oldgandy5355they need a reminder of just what a corporate charter really is. By which I mean what it originally was.
@@Doug-lw5gf Amen to that!
Love the content, please help me visualize how Houston can spur a commuter rail system in Texas
More of Houston suburbs have to join Houston's light rail implying adopting a similar sales tax... The city isn't funding the suburbs light rail...
Once you finish covering all of the different corridors are you going to make a video that shows the entire US network and ways to connect different corridors to one another?
The plan is to do a video about the various possible regional connectors, and then a "national" HSR map that I believe to be practical.
@@LucidStewthat would be cool
I live in the OKC metro and we badly need this. It'd be a bargain at twice the cost.
I’m surprised Texas and Oklahoma haven’t banned trains.
Actually Texas and Oklahoma are funding Amtrak's regional train, the Heartland Flyer... Amtrak maybe operating the train, but Amtrak hasn't funded this train a single cent...
Is it possible to partially electrify the network, and have the train run off batteries when overhead wires aren’t feasible? I know this is used on some non-high speed lines, but not sure if it’s compatible with high-speed rail.
On-battery speed isn't very good, atm. There probably needs to be some sort of breakthrough in practical energy storage density. Other than that you have turbine diesel-electric or hydrogen, which can do about 150mph.
I don't know if a connection to DFW is included in the next video, but a direct HSR connection to DFW - either as a spur or as the midpoint of the Fort Worth-Dallas HSR connection - would be a huge benefit. Also, the bridge between I-244 and the old US 66 is a pedestrian bridge which looks like it was four lanes plus two sidewalks; it measures about 50 feet wide. The HSR could occupy the west half of the bridge still leaving the east half for pedestrians and cyclists. Some highway ramps would need rebuilding but this design is not a problem if the rail line is terminating at Tulsa and not continuing to KC or Springfield.
kileen has a huge military base just west of it so it realy dose need a regional station maybe kinda between killeen and gtemple.
a yearly maintenance cost estimate would be super useful as well, then you could estimate viability of such things at the end of your videos.
I'm already having a hard enough time producing these things. I unfortunately don't have time to come up with a whole ridership estimate that could inform a schedule that would determine how much equipment is required that would tell you what the maintenance costs would be.
So you're skipping Denton,Texas? It's home to the University of North Texas, Texas Women's University, and the historically Black Texas College. You usually love to add college ridership to your proposed high speed rail lines.
For an express train? Yes. The line runs within 6 miles of Denton. A stop could easily be added in the area, like the mentioned Sanger stop.
@@LucidStewStuuuuuu…. Nooooooo
8:25 it is just too funny how you say all these german names. 😂😂 Braunfels means Brown rock 🪨. And Schlitterbahn means slipping track.
Given that Texas can't keep the lights on, perhaps the trains should be 160 MPH gas-turbines, bet you could push that to 180 MPH. Skipping Austin seems fine with light rail transit connection, HSR in East Asia often skips city centers in favor of big suburban stations that can anchor new business districts. These cities have high growth rates, so they are similar to China in that regard.
you made a bobo stew san antiono has a sububan rail line from downtown to the northwestern suburb of leander.
You made a boo-boo. Leander is in the Austin Metropolitan area, not San Antonio.
I really think Dallas-Fort Worth to Oklahoma City may happen. There is possibly enough ridership to justtify the construction cost.
It would better for Oklahoma to have a rail system that connects a port in Houston, so they can get goods or oil/gas on a container ship.
That would be freight, and there's already several freight rail lines going from OK down in to Texas and several lines in Texas go to Houston.
i.e. what you suggest already exists.
The video is about passenger rail tho.
I dont really see the reason to put the rail station in Burleson just yet. Yeah its growing but its still pretty spread out and not much more than a suburb of Fort Worth atm.
Denton, however, could 100% use one. It's pretty similar to Waco and has a light rail line direct to Dallas. It makes for a very natural linkup to the hsr and has a sufficient population to support it.
Considering the population growth patterns this should be one of the top priority projects in the nation, if it weren't constrained by GOP thinking that is... But these cities are increasingly Blue which will lead to more of a priority for public transit projects of all kinds I am sure...
If your state lege doesn’t prevent it. I understand they already banned future toll-funded urban highway projects, since the lege doesn’t control them.
omg, as a ftw native, and exhaustive driver between ftw and austin, I've been wanting good rail fr. dfw thru to san Antonio FOREVER. I just don't think the political will is there yet... and there's also the Texas Railroad Commission to deal with.
politics in tx. is ass-backwards 4 sure
Between Texas and Where??? 🤔
$87 million a mile? More than $50 billion - and that will grow with time. That............ is a lot of $$.
To put it into terms that give it a bit more perspective, that's:
0.2% annual gdp,
what the federal highway administration spends in a year,
4 aircraft carriers,
$5 billion less than aid so far to Ukraine
6% of what we'll spend on interest servicing the national debt this year.
@@LucidStew or you could say an additional $1700 for every man, woman and child in the state of Texas.
@@stanley917 Sure, but it would be in place for a hundred years or more. By then the population of Texas will likely be as much as 50 or 60 million. $1700/5 generations/2 times population = $170
@@LucidStew unfortunately, it will have to be paid for now, not spread over 100 years/5 generations into the future. And there is a significant cost associated with maintenance of way and rolling stock, electrical power for the locomotives, train crew/conductors, etc., etc. etc.. And the real area of service is not over the entire state - the total population of Texas may have to pay for so a group of Dallas and Houston residents can use it.
@@stanley917 The value and depreciation are spread over time. Amtrak covers operating costs on the NEC. No reason to assume a similarly populated area wouldn't. The vast majority of the population of Texas lives in the Texas Triangle area. This would also drive economic activity that would benefit the entire state.
Even upgrading existing rail lines should work and allow linkage with other routes.
I'm making the assumption in these videos that freight rail companies are going to cooperate as little as possible. If freight rail rights of way were fully accessible, that would make things much easier in many places.
Imagine OKC to Fort Worth within a hour or less
Could be close without the stop in Norman
@@LucidStew I would rather have that Norman stop even if it adds on a few extra minutes
I just realized what those from-the-air (or satellite) pics of US cities remind me of: they remind me of the bombed-out German cities after WW II, most of the area looking like a wasteland, not like a city. (I'm not claiming anything beyond that's an association I have when I look at them.)
How much of an issue are land rights? How much money is eaten up by legal battles? Is it better to offer a generous compensation up front to avoid such battles? Maybe legislation can be passed specifically for such projects to streamline the process but still provide a healthy compensation. As it is now, it reminds me of an old Bugs Bunny cartoon in which a freeway was built around his rabbit hole because he refused to move. The cartoon was probably created when the Interstate Highway System was being constructed. Perhaps it is time to update the cartoon.
Well, we are talking about Texas. The state legislature has fought Texas Central tooth and nail, losing only because the courts ended up siding with the project. Even still, the state has managed to delay the project by at least 7-8 years if we're being generous.
@@LucidStew I don’t think they fight with teeth and nails in Texas. Shooting one’s self in the foot isn’t good either.
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Is the problem with Austin the curve as you get to the current amtrak station? because it looks on google and open railways map that the right of way is 75ish feet enough for 4 tracks and UP is single track there. I'd say getting to the urban core of such a large city is too important, to blow off with a stop next to the airport and putting in a 7 mile tunnel would be worth it. Pop back into the UP right of way around the West 35th street interchange.
It's closer to 60ft and you're not going to fit 2 electrified tracks and a freight track in that space. There's also no chance of widening the freeway, like would happen with I-30 and DFW HST. Austin is already pretty urban, and an airport station served by light rail would only be 10 miles from the core.
how much bigger then texarkana is tulsa and way dose it go east to tulsa and not north to wichita. and probably kansas vity is a much more logical hsr line the kansas city - denver is.
Texarkana is about 1/6 the size of Tulsa. I don't know why they defined the corridor the way they did, but it doesn't include between Arkansas and Tulsa. It's forked at Dallas/Ft. Worth.
Denton needs a station because of UNT.
I just hope NXT ADMINISTRATION is PRO RAIL.
Our URGENCY is MAKING DOUBLE TRACKS connect these cities....Once double tracks is established then TRAVELING TIME is reduced significantly!
RIGHT NOW, Americans don't have good rail option. AIR and FREEWAY are approaching MAX CAPACITY so we need RAIL for other option.
why not run it through the undeveopled hills of san antonio and run through the median of s1 while rerouting the frieght line in between it.
We don’t need stops at airports unless they also stop in downtown.
Airport stops can be important as those service points have an established ability to handle large numbers of intercity travelers, which is also a major market segment for HSR. It may not matter for cities of multi-millions but can be an important consideration for smaller metros.
why not under austin airport,
More expensive. If one considers $51 billion inexpensive, then go for it. The basic idea here is that the U.S. doesn't have the stomach for HSR, so I'm not going to aim too high and make it an instant 'no'.
Trains in Texas are a "Hard Fail!"
This is never going to happen. The people in these parts of the country are too greedy and stupid to pull this off. California High-Speed Rail will barely occur in the San Joaquin Valley, and that's with a culture that's far more pro-public infrastructure projects.
I from Kansas, wichita state university. I am now in California.
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Thank you for your support! 4th trip looks assured before Brightline West even starts construction.
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Thanks again. At current pace, I do believe the first year at least will be covered all the way. Maybe it will even accelerate once those videos start, who knows?
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Thank you. We have a 4th BLW Vegas trip in our sights