well it's not really a fair match if you're comparing a cherry BLUE keyboard, with a regular membrane since cherry blues are tactile switches and membranes well, there are topres, buckling and many more , and I mean fine, compare a membrane to a cherry blue, but at least get a membrane keyboard that has tactile membranes, like tactile topres.
Funny story when I was a teenager, my dad had a coworker who used a mechanical keyboard and everyone hated it, so my dad bought him a membrane keyboard and gave the mechanical one to me it was my first one and still use it today
i just bought a mechanical keyboard. man i was so excited about it. But to be honest after like 2 weeks the sound was starting to get annoying especially when im writing college papers.
I'd get an o ring and instead of just letting the key go when releasing it, I would let the finger stay on it for a while so upstroke does not make loud sounds. Also, do not get clicky switches. My Brown sounds just about the same as the membranes used in the library.
Idk, I’ve used a membrane keyboard for years and honestly it’s been workin pretty fine and to me it’s really comfortable especially for gaming. Really easy to hit buttons and since the buttons are a lot thinner (from my experience), you won’t be making as much keys mistake. When I bought a mechanical keyboard mainly for gaming, it felt weird and def wasn’t for me but yknow that’s just me
@@tims7686 once u get used to it, it becomes second nature. However, I’d recommend to learn the different keyboard switches & which one works for u. I got a new keyboard w red switches & it’s been hard to type on, but it feel better when gaming. So it’s all based on ur personal preference
i think what most people miss is the repairability of the mechanical keyboard, when a single key doesnt respond you can easily replace the switch and get it going again (as long as the main board isnt damaged) unlike membranes
Because what matters more is how comfortable a keyboard is to use than whether it is membrane or mechanical. These people saying that "you're not a true gamer if you use membrane keyboards" are just spouting BS, many of them ain't even pro lol
Blue switches don't even sound good though, they're rattlly and plasticky. Listen to an alps blue keyboard or a box jade keyboard to hear what a good switch sounds like.
Yea. I noticed that. I remember we used to call that "hen pecking" lol. He seems to have managed to adapt his typing style to achieve a decent speed but anyone who knows how to actually type will definitely out perform him. That being said, I doubt he's doing any large amount of typing.
@@dete9191 Yeah... that's their biggest issue. But... people pay a lot more money just for razer tag on their stuff and usually razer is not so good as they say and it's always overprized. Also you can pay a lot just for some apple product, mechanical keyborards are not so expensive when you think about that.
2:31 WOW THATS MY KEYBOARD, like litteraly one i already have for about 10 years or so, doesn't break, insanely good keyboard, really cheap, would recommend 10/10
Matt... I seriously miss the "comin at you" line, that's what I knew all of your old videos by. I know you made the change because it's what you felt is right, but just wanted to let you know that I was a fan of it because it made you stand out in my mind, even though others may not have liked it. Anyone else in the same boat?!
What is it with people "not knowing" when they press a key? Do letters not show up on screen? Does your game character not respond when you press a key? I've never had a problem on any keyboard I've ever tried. What am I not missing? I feel left out, like I should be missing something.
It's because you're not following the stupid kid's trend. Just the same as buying Apple products. Or you just love paying shitton of money for things. It's all retarded. Mechanicals aren't even new tech.
keycaps bottom out at 4mm travel distance and usually actuate at 2mm, you cant know where that actuation point is on a membrane but on tactile mechanical ones you either head a sound or feel a little bump
I'm a CS student who doesn't game. I personally value the ergonomic design more than the type of keyboard, though I also prefer the feeling and the price of a membrane keyboard. It's a no brainer for me to be using my current ergonomic design membrane keyboard, and it's the best keyboard I've had. I can't understand how people can use horrible keyboards for their desktop setups. Thin portable keyboards with super low profile are understandable on a laptop, but at least use a better one for your desktop. Having no number pads also makes it so difficult to do proper work. All these keyboards are form over function.
Fun fact. If you were a computer user in the early 90s, most keyboards were mechanical. I recall having an IBM keyboard and until recently never realised it was mechanical. There was nothing special about mechanical keyboards back then. Got a Keychron C2 now and it's mostly great.
I used to get Logitech membrane keyboards for circa $20. The space bar would last maybe a year, then would turn to mush from being struck so much, leading me to replace the keyboard every year or so. I bought a buckling spring mechanical keyboard almost four years ago and the space bar is still functional.
I hate how people conflate membranes with rubber domes. It causes a lot of confusion. The membrane sheet is a flat sensing component which you don't feel at all. The rubber domes in a conventional keyboard are what supply return force and tactility (usually mushy and sloppy), while a membrane is used to detect the keypress. This distinction is important, because the venerable IBM Model M uses a membrane for keypress sensing, but the buckling spring mechanism it uses for tactility, return, and sound is obviously mechanical. There are also rubber dome systems like Topre which use capacitive rubber domes over a circuit board, rather than a membrane. This allows Topre keyboards to have n-key rollover, which membranes cannot provide. Amusingly, there are people out there who would say that the Model M isn't mechanical because it's a membrane keyboard, and at the same time, that Topre is mechanical. These same people would say that the IBM Model F-a keyboard using the EXACT SAME mechanism as the Model M, except over a circuit board-IS mechanical because it doesn't use membranes. This is blatantly insane, and it stems from the false dichotomy of "Membrane vs Mechanical" that people are putting out into the world. Mechanical switches and rubber domes are primarily a tactile component. A membrane is a sensing component. Cherry style switches like are seen in modern gaming keyboards have contacts inside, and so do technically act as a sensing component, but not all mechanical systems are like this. The advantage of mechanical switches compared to rubber domes is that they can have a much wider range of tactility options, weighting options, can actuate before bottoming out, and are often mounted to a circuit board. The advantage of a circuit board compared to a membrane is potential for n-key rollover if the board is designed to to support it. Most rubber dome keyboards use membranes, but not all of them. This has nothing to do with how they feel. Most domes are poorly designed / are made of cheap rubber, which is why they feel bad. However, there are also some great rubber domes like Topre or BTC dome+slider which feel excellent. It all depends on the kind of feel you're looking for. TLDR: A membrane is a sensing component, not a tactile one. A rubber dome is a tactile component, not a sensing one. They usually go together, but they don't have to. They are not synonymous. Some mechanical switches use a membrane, and some rubber domes use a circuit board. It is a poor distinction to use.
I actually like the feel of heavier membrane keyboards. I'm used to type on a lot of laptop keyboards too so tactility has kinda grown on me. I'm planning to get a keyboard with Kailh Box Royal switches. I really love the them because they are tactile af. I'd still say in the end nothing beats the quality and feel of Mechanical keyboards but some of the membrane keyboards I tried were pretty good actually.
I was using a membrane keyboard for almost a year, I just got my new mechanical keyboard today and I'm already loving it way better. I love the clickiness of it, i love the tactile feedback. And i love the big keys.
*"Are Mechanical Keyboards worth it?"* Well, it depends on who you are. My old man owns a shitty membrane keyboard that came bundled with some shitty old long-dead PC he bought in the windows 98 era, it runs via PS2 port and runs perfectly fine on his windows 10 machine. He's a hunt-and-peck typist. Two fingers, that's all he needs. The thuds as he hits the keys resound through the floor, you can FEEL when he's typing something. Will he benefit from a mechanical keyboard? Clearly not. He has an almost 20 year old no-brand chinese membrane keyboard (it has dedicated calculator, web browser, eject, suspend, media and volume control hotkeys!) and it's doing him just fine. I'd hate to think that someone that types any less than 50wpm would think getting a mech keyboard would be a good investment for them. Membraners DO last, maybe they get mushy after a while but they can be a reliable product. I type ~90wpm, and I type a lot. I play games often (probably too often). My series-1 ducky shine mechanical keyboard with Cherry browns (while not the perfect switch for gaming) makes sense for me. I tried an old Razer Blackwidow with blues as my first mechanical board, hated them. I haven't tried reds or blacks or Topre etc, but I've tried Romer-G and loved them as well...but they don't have an even actuation weight when your fingers don't land perfectly in the middle of the keycap. Where am I going with this? Meh, buy what you think you can afford, but test things out to make sure it's comfortable for you and suited for what you want to do with it too.
I used to own membrane keyboards. Had many different variations of them. Then, about 2 months ago, I got a Blue Switch Mechanical Keyboard, with RGB of course, from Havit. I cannot stress just how much better this keyboard is over membrane. The difference is night and day! My typing was never very fast, since I am not a "traditional" typist, but it has improved considerably since moving to this mechanical keyboard. Membrane keyboards may work for some people, but for me, mechanical is the only way I'll type and game from now on on my PC.
@@lionnyrodriguez9064 I didnt see it as a joke because lots of people have the same opinions as yours. People get wet over the sounds of blue switches.
I love membrane keyboards. I can easily swipe from different keys really smoothly without that huge gap between the keys. This really helps in my gaming especially in games where you need to switch from key to key really easily.
It all depends on personal preference and which keyboard you're used to. I'm used to membrane keyboards because I was always used to a laptop keyboard. However, whenever I see a mechanical keyboard the same price as my membrane keyboard, it is always coveted by me. Hence, I came to this video!
When i was using a mechanical i actually took longer, because the keys are taller, and the depth, and force to push a key is more. There is also gaps between keys, causing even slower reaction time. Idk membrane is what i used for a decade now and i think i will continue to use membrane.
I honestly don't know why people can use mechanical keyboards, I've been using a k120 for 8 years now and prefer it in everyway to a mechanical, less sound, faster key speed, way better for games I feel. I don't need some fancy keyboard to use, no need for it, just need a good mouse and I'm golden.
same here, I don't get why anyone would want more friction, more noise and less speed. they believe that are better because it's a trend. they brag about their keyboards in echo chambers, it's all marketing
As some one who has used both the mechanical is far superior. It feels more responsive, more feedback (cause thats the switch i chose), and overall what feels like a higher build quality.
first time using a mechanical keyboard after using k120 for years and i say it's not a smooth transition. gaming wise, it's far superior for rythym games, inferior to most other games.
I remember when I got my first mechanical keyboard for myself in 2014. Ever since then, I haven't gone back to a membrane keyboard. I have a cherry blue for work, and Romer G for my main set up, and a brown ten keyless for my LAN/Mobile set up.
never fell to this mech kb hype. it also appears on youtube videos that mechanical kbs are slowly getting into quieter/more satisfying thud. membranes not only cheap but also resistant to water spills. mech kbs though gives you more opportunity for expensive features not found on membrane, lighting or RGB, exotic unique designs, and custom actuation.
I switched from mechanical to membrane. After owning many mechanical keyboards and all of them chattering on me, some of them flat out dying completely for some unknown reason, and arguing with the different retailer's warranty department, even went as far as buying from the source only for the experience to drive me nuts with customs and runic warranties, I just decided fuck it and just gave away my mechanicals to anyone who think they can fix it. I don't understand, though. I clean my shit up every 3 days so dust isn't the problem. Hell, I even cover my desk with a fabric when I'm not going to use it for a long while. Faulty keys? I've replaced every keyboard I own and even the new ones get all chattery. USB power irregularities? Tried it on different PCs and the problem persists. The membrane I used from way back is still working without any hiccups and has outlived all the mechanical keyboards I've owned. Didn't even understand why I abandoned my membrane for a mechanical in the first place. I guess I fell into the hype that 'mechanical keyboards will enhance your computer experience'.
This is a great video, but I want to point out that Matt means "Membrane" as Rubber Domes, because technically IBM Model Ms are membrane because the buckling springs in that keyboard use a membrane to actuate keystrokes, and therefore aren't "mechanical." I just wanted to point out that, because IBM Model Ms are considered the best mechanical keyboard ever made, even though it is technically not "mechanical," and that Matt is talking about rubber domes, which are far inferior and mushier than "mechanical" keyboards.
i feel like mechanical keyboards are better because if one of the keys stop responding then its easy to just replace the singular key rather than replacing the whole keyboard but membranes are still good
If I'm being honest, I highly prefer membrane keyboards when I'm doing typing work. It just feels better to me. Mechanical all the way for gaming, but for writing? Membrane.
All you did was trash the membrane keyboards. They tend to be smoother to type on in my experience, and if you need to work on one all day or have a kid around, they are easy to clean and are mildly waterproof.
Late, but typing home row actually makes you faster. Im in 6th grade. before typing class, I had 70 wpm without using home row. When I used home row, I only had about 20-30 wpm. Few weeks later, I can go up to 100 making no mistakes (not needing to press delete).
I went to Staples and they had a mechanical keyboard on display. I couldn't tell what the switches were, but it was SOOO satisfying to use. I loved it.
+Staring Intensifies They seemed to not make a sound when they were pressed halfway down. The keys pressed fully down sounded more like a click than a clack
I use membrane but i really want a mechanical keyboard but personally the membrane i use is honestly amazing and is $6 while mechanical is like $20 for cheapest
I still use membrane bcoz the noise of mechanical keyboards are distracting! I love to hear music while learning, surfing, working and hear only gameplay sounds and soundracks, without any loud CLICKS
@???? Obviously you can't get anything close to the silent membrane keys but that's an option if you want to still make mechanical switches more quiet. It does kinda get annoying if you have open back headphones
I have been using mechanical keyboard for gaming/work/and in general. But I find myself going back to the membrane keyboard when I don't play games. I like the squishiness of these keys. And this membrane keyboard is not special I have another keyboard that mecha membrane but idk why the normal 5 dollar keyboard feels so satisfying.
Mine is so hollow and rattly. It's almost not there in feedback but now annoying because I modded my mech to sound poppy marbly so by comparison it's just :( I have both plugged in though xD
Mechanical keyboards are one of those things. Even you love them or hate them. I can't go without one and I've had others use mine and want to know why my keyboard felt so good to type on. I think the main thing I like about my mech's are how engaging they feel to type on. I'm a touch typist and the extra heft and feedback from a mechanical keyboard just feels right. One thing worth considering is the experience can vary greatly even with the same switches. For instance I have 3 keyboards with Cherry Mx Browns. Of the 3 my first and cheapest one feels like working a machine. Enjoyable to type on but not very refineded. My Das Pro w/Cherry Mx Browns on the other hand feels like tap dancing on the keyboard. I'm fairly convinced that people who don't enjoy mechanical's just haven't experienced the right mech for them.
Interesting. Yes you can have an incredibly loud experience on a mechanical keyboard, and some get a positive feedback loop off that noise. But if you type gently and efficiently you can hit the keys without bottoming them out with a mechanical keyboard, and have it still be as quiet as a membrane keyboard. Rubber O-ring dampeners can make it even quieter. When you invest in a mechanical keyboard, you have this myriad of options open to you. With a membrane, you hit the key, you get the dull bump of the key bottoming out and flattening the rubber dome, and then you hit the next one...easy.
I had a keyboard with chiclet keys. It was kinda neat when I first got it. I grew to detest it. I still have it for "emergencies" but I really just want to throw it in the trash... :/
I've decided that I prefer Membrane Keyboards, the reason for this is that I am able to spam a key much faster than with a Mechanic Keyboard, I never had a problem with tactile feedback since when I intend to push down my finger I expect to get the result & generally I'm a blind typer, I also feel my fingers lowering when pushing down on a key so the whole noisy key thing I don't really understand. The only Mechanical Keyboard I've purchased is the Razer Huntsman due to their marketing gimmick, and the technology they seem to be showcasing tends to cancel itself out by the delay between being able to press the key again but I do see the small difference it makes in-game, I'm not sure if I made a bad purchase or not but that ultimately led me to going back to that Dell Membrane Keyboard from 2006, even though the Mechanical Keyboard I purchased has a faster response time.
There are different switches, Razer Huntsman has a newly made so-called optical mechanical laser switch which some people don't like, I suggest you try using Brown switches, Red switches, Red Silent switches, or maybe Silver Speed switches if you want swiftness. Mechanical keyboards have : Faster response time, customizable macros, removable switches, different feel, less actuation force, tactile click/bumb, no ghosting, more comfortable, better look, better reliability, up to 50+ million keystrokes while membrane only has 2-3 million.
I had a membrane keyboard for 10 years and not once did it let me down in all that time. It's survived hundreds of spillages, drops, knocks, bumps, scrapes and even a cigarette burn, and it's still going till this day. By contrast the mechanical keyboard I got last year has broken down on me three times already, twice due to some very minor spillages and once seemingly because it was in a bad mood. I love the feel of mechanical keyboards, but in terms of toughness and reliability there's absolutely no competition. In fact, I'm having to use my decade old membrane keyboard to type this comment because the mechanical is having a sulk due to me not adequately performing the required prayers and rights before I turned my computer on this morning.
Bro you may have bought a Chinese third class mechanical keyboard. If u would have bought a keyboard of bloody gaming or red dragon . A4 tech . They would be best but I prefer bloody gaming they are best . Dude seriously
I own a membrane Genesis R33 for 6 years now and it's perfect for both typing and gaming. I bought a red mechanical switch keyboard,hyper x alloy,and it is absolute trash * the switch*,ill try to buy one with brown switches,but it feels so much better typing on a membrane keyboard tho :D
I prefer blue Cuz its noisy and i love it , especially when i'm at work 🙃 And in the second place comes the red one Ive never tried it but i guess by several reviews that i've already watched i came to conclusion that its quiter than the rest , and its made for thoose who write articles or even poems and song lyrics
Nope, read is linear and preferred by gamers, most people who type regularly use Browns. They are tactile and quiet. Typists like to know when they have actuated the key.
I have had the same keyboard since I got my old stock HP as a high school graduation present in 2009. The keyboard I have is an HP ku-0841. I have been looking into possibly getting a new keyboard for gaming. Top of my list right now are the Razer Ornata and BlackWidow Chroma V2. I know these three keyboards are all very different, but could anyone who knows keyboards tell me what would be the best pick? I don't really have any problems with my current HP membrane board and it is solid in design. What are some pros and cons or should I stick with this tried and true keyboard? I just don't know what sort of difference I will notice. I purchased a Razer DeathAdder mouse a while back and honestly it is the best mouse I have ever owned.
Frack Youve probably decided by now but i wouldnt recommend ornata as it mecha membrane meaning a membrane keyboard with little metal leaflets that make the click sounds, get a real mech instead
literally same here. I come home from work really late and i can't really game because everyone in my house is asleep. Clicks can be very annoying Also, i heard they don't last as long as mechanical, but hopefully, i won't have to buy one for a while
Mechanical Keyboards to me are such much better than a regular keyboard. You don't have to press as hard. and the buttons are super easy to feel. With regular keyboards I don't get that "responsiveness" that I hit the button. And I have big clumsy hands. So I really hate regular keyboards.
i’m newer to the pc gaming community and i bought a membrane keyboard thinking it was a mechanical but it’s still loud as hell and has a super good response rate. (if anyone was wondering it’s a HYPERX ALLOY CORE RGB)
In the beginning all keyboards were mechanic. Companies replaced them for the membrane ones for three main reasons: they are cheaper to produce, faster to produce, and you can use them in the same regular way as the mechanicals. Nowadays the mechanical ones have up to 1ms of delay, membrane ones about 16ms of delay. It's much more a taste thing than an improvement and people are driving crazy studying switches trying to find the Holy Grail of gaming in the less important peripheral of our PCs. It's all about marketing and feeling in your fingers. If you are a casual gamer it simply wont pay the cost.
so i currently use a membrane keyboard generally, I saw this and got curious so I borrowed my brother's mechanical keyboard. I think mechanical is more clicky and it can sound satisfying(?) but it does get kinda irky when writing an esaay. its good for stuff like gaming where you use noise cancelling headphones but doesnt stop other ppl from complaining abt the noise lol while membrane is more silent, I personally dont feel a skill difference from using either keyboards but some people have so I think its worth giving a try on both and see which you like
Here's my comparison if anyone wants to know my opinion as someone who isn't a "keyboard snob". lol Mechanical keyboards are more reliable(more durable and less missed key-presses), more comfortable+enjoyable to type on for most people(as you can customize the experience and choose which type of switches+keycaps you like to get the exact feel+sound+look that's the best for your own personal tastes), they simply feel like a more premium high quality product(heavier duty+better/fancier materials). If if a key stops working on a mech you can simply replace the 1 broken switch(which is hella easy IF you make sure to get a hot swappable keyboard) instead of having to go buy a whole new keyboard like with membrane. There's also a much wider variety of mechanical TKL/compact, RGB, and low latency wireless gaming keyboards available on the market, while your options in these categories are limited with membranes. If you want all of the latest and greatest features(especially gaming focused), you pretty much need a mech as most KB companies don't really make high end membranes much anymore. And as stated in the video, if you want a more accurate tactile experience that let's you feel and hear the exact moment your keys actuated that way you don't have to bottom out every key press to make sure your types registered, you need a mechanical for that kind of tactile/clicky feedback(which is good for many types of people like super fast typists, people who can't look at what they're typing, people who are fairly light on their key presses, and people who have carpal tunnel syndrome/RSI from typing too hard). That being said, you don't NEED a mechanical keyboard. Don't let people tell you it's a 100% necessity. Membranes can get the job done just fine, and even have some advantages of their own. Obviously they're cheaper, they are often quieter by default(although you can make mechanicals sound even quiter with the right options, and there's mods to get even quieter which modding isn't really a thing on membranes). And membranes are more resistant to liquid spills since there are way less actual exposed electronics within the board itself. So it's just up to you to decide on if the advantages appeal to you or not, and if it's worth the extra money. I will say don't go thinking you have to spend over $100 to get a good mechanical keyboard though. There are a ton of high quality options in the $50-100 range loaded whatever high end features you could want(like my Keychron K8, wireless + hot swap + RGB and I paid $75), and there's even a good amount of super cheap budget mechanical keyboard as low as $30 these days that have surprisingly good quality/+features for the price, so price isn't as big of a factor as it once was.
I own a few membrane and mechanical keyboards from Logitech G510 to Steelseries Apex for membrane. And Ducky shine 3 to CM Mech for mechanical. From personal experience I can say that membrane keyboards are the best for everything from gaming to typing. Mechanical keyboards have terribly high keys to cover the switches beneath them making them feel uncomfortable. Also the keys are made of low quality plastics to keep the weight low as it doesn't take much to activate a mech key. Membrane keys are faaar more superior all round. And even if it does wear out it cost next to nothing to replace it.
Rager and if you do want fancy n key rollovers and macros for every key it's just as simple as getting a PS/2 adapter and an Autohotkey download respectively :p
LegoJKL older buckling spring keyboards or Alps switches had a really high spring load of 65g and higher. So they had really high quality double shot PBT keycaps that practically last forever. While modern mechs have such low load activation that you'd have to use thin ABS keycaps with plastics so cheap you could smooth out the surface texture just by using it. You may say rubber domes have cheaper keycaps yet the ones I have had yet to lose its quality.
U must be bad then no offense. Even WoW players prefer mechanical kb. I cant stand that ugly thump on ur finger wen u press a key. Feels so ugly. Red n black switches r best
I actually really dislike mechanical keyboards. They have a very annoying clicking sound, my fingers get tired from them, because the keys are hard to press. They overall just feel unpleasant and oldschool to me. I think most people just buy a mechanical keyboard, because its kind of a "prestige" thing and people like to change the keys. But actually in my opinion they really suck. Even the really expensive ones that I've tried. Its really not allways the best option for everyone.
I still use a 1996 membrane keyboard in my new shiny 1500€ gaming pc and i've no regrets. Silent, light, cheap, and has that nice good old windows '98 flag in Windows button.
I game sometimes but not super competitive or anything but the main reason for me to buy a mechanical keyboard was for programming. I was getting so tired of keys not registering, double strokes, etc. It's 100% doable on a membrane keyboard, you just have to backspace more than you would on a mechanical keyboard to fix mistakes. It seems to make a much more noticeable difference to someone with a high WPM typing speed coupled with typing by touch. I got my co-worker a mechanical keyboard but he doesn't type by touch and his WPM is about 40WPM less than me. He glances up and down between the keyboard and monitor so for him he said he didn't really notice a difference in functionality like I did but it definitely 'felt cooler' and now he's looking to buy a second one when he had absolutely zero interest in mechanical keyboards before I got him one. Don't knock it, til you THOCC it.
I had both and i actually prefer the Logitech k120 over a mechanical. To me if feels way better. Lol love that you have a k120. its a beast. I had a corsair k70 and typing on it i would sometimes make mistakes and gaming didnt feel all that better. I actually prefer the k120 logitech for gaming. I just miss the volume wheel on the k70. im for sure sticking with the k120
Can anyone tell me why Logitech stopped selling Deluxe 250 keyboard - it was one of the best keyboards for very low price: $15-20. Now they have K120 which comes in two versions: K120 and K120 Business - which I didn't know - and bought plain K120 - it has terrible key layout: short left shift split with doubled backslash key, and has vertical ENTER instead horizontal one.
Get membrane totally not worth giving 100$ just for big keycaps and harder to press just because it has good sound( and performance) just get a membrane.
+Martin Petrov Harder to press? My MXBrowns mech keyboard has lighter keys than any of the membrane keyboards i've tried. There are switches that are even lighter than browns.
FirelordUnity I have a Razer Cherry MX Blue KB and a Razer ORNATA KB, I prefer the ORNATA since I'm the type of person who likes things quiet. It's really preferance. If you like clicky sounds, get a mechanical. Membranes aren't mushy. Well, atleast for my ORNATA it isn't.
my experience with mechanical keyboard is when you use it long enough it will double type the letters, if u press "e" sometimes it will be "ee" sometimes other keycaps light doesn't work, sometimes you have to press it harder just to register.. while my experience with membrane keyboard is when you use it long enough the keycaps doesn't return to it's normal place after you press it like the rubber beneath the keycaps are broken or something, "WASD" are the ones who gets broke first. my Logitech keyboard lasted 6 years, while my mechnical keyboard usually last 1 year then more problems more occur.
Membrane keyboards do its job. But for me the mechanical keyboard provides extra. I used to have a membrane keyboard and it worked fine, but I didn't have much pride in the sound or the feel. It was when I got my first blue switch keyboard I fell in love with mechanical keyboards. Although a blue switch keyboard (sound annoying after a while) wasn't a perfect choice it was a good introduction to mechanical keyboards. I then got a corsair k63 which is when i started watching a lot of custom keyboard videos and sort of became an ethusiast without the gear (joke). I did a few basic mods to the keyboard and whenever I type on the keyboard it feels and most especially sounds like heaven.
unless you already bought it, no you can't. look at some other benchmarks of the G3258. after a certain patch GTA V is unplayable on dual cores. an i3 with hyperthreading is a good option though,
@ 1:18 "So, as you can see the mechanical keyboard is much louder". Yea, except for the fact that you didn't actually position the keyboards the same distance from the mic! Not questioning the results, but a decibel meter would make the most sense, even if just a phone app. It is important to position the decibel meter the same distance and orientation from the sound source. Distance makes a huge difference in measuring sound level.
I’ve always loved the noise of a mechanical keyboard but never knew what they were named. I’m the type of person who uses a typewriter cus I like the noise. I never knew that they were called mechanical keyboards. Something new to add to my wishlist thank you
i have both of them for typing only. K120 & Digital Alliance K1 meca blue switch. i got 71WPM on K120 and 65WPM for DA K1. For long time use mecha make you feel fatigue. i use mecha for my satisfaction only. maybe next time i will buy o ring for my mecha
As a welder that has had the horrible luck of having working days when I used nothing but an angle grinder, I find the notion of banning a keyboard for being too loud hilarious. 😂
1:17 "As you can see, the sound of the mechanical keyboard is much louder."
Yup I I can clearly *see* that *sound*
Ah yes I can see sound and membrane keyboards are sooo quiet...
well it's not really a fair match if you're comparing a cherry BLUE keyboard, with a regular membrane since cherry blues are tactile switches and membranes well, there are topres, buckling and many more , and I mean fine, compare a membrane to a cherry blue, but at least get a membrane keyboard that has tactile membranes, like tactile topres.
@@Jay-qj3tz membrane is louder tho, explain this!
He's reflecting on the audio test dummy
Brought my blue switch keyboard to school.....
a week later....
Mechanical keyboard are officially banned :)
Kind of a dick move.
Kek, what did you expect?
Balder Mechs are loud as shit
browns aren't too bad, (my cheap membrane is louder imo)
GReDDY WupS My IBM Model F would like to 'speak' with you.
Funny story when I was a teenager, my dad had a coworker who used a mechanical keyboard and everyone hated it, so my dad bought him a membrane keyboard and gave the mechanical one to me it was my first one and still use it today
Aww
wow
That's wholesome or nice bit definitely not funny.
That is a cool story
Now you are the annoying guy xD
i just bought a mechanical keyboard. man i was so excited about it. But to be honest after like 2 weeks the sound was starting to get annoying especially when im writing college papers.
Now, whenever you type, no matter what keyboard - you will always hear this mechanical CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK, CLICK .... - lol
wino0000006 Unless you use a different switch..
well, just by an brown
ed switchers, and forget about the noize =)
I'd get an o ring and instead of just letting the key go when releasing it, I would let the finger stay on it for a while so upstroke does not make loud sounds.
Also, do not get clicky switches.
My Brown sounds just about the same as the membranes used in the library.
Roma-G ftw.
Imagine owning both a silent-click mouse and a loud mechanical keyboard.
I made that mistake....
I like the feel of blues the most
But I use reds if there is anyone in a 5mile radius
@@carlweeks2399 browns exist
Literally me
i hate the loud clicky ones
@@Dattebayosigma some browns are loud and scratchy nah
So my friend has a mechanical keyboard and it's so loud I can literally hear in through my headset
Probably has blue switches
yeah bcuz blue
Blue switches and a microphone that records everythin around the mic
It's a blue switch aight
Some switches are louder than others.
my mom needs mechanical cuz she has instagram nails
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Idk, I’ve used a membrane keyboard for years and honestly it’s been workin pretty fine and to me it’s really comfortable especially for gaming. Really easy to hit buttons and since the buttons are a lot thinner (from my experience), you won’t be making as much keys mistake. When I bought a mechanical keyboard mainly for gaming, it felt weird and def wasn’t for me but yknow that’s just me
same i just purchased my first mechanical keyboard and its a bit hard to type and get used to. hopefully everything works out lol
@@naomijay7177 update from 2022 ?
@@tims7686 once u get used to it, it becomes second nature. However, I’d recommend to learn the different keyboard switches & which one works for u. I got a new keyboard w red switches & it’s been hard to type on, but it feel better when gaming. So it’s all based on ur personal preference
i feel like my membrane keyboard feels the same as a mechanical keyboard for gaming or maybe i haven’t had enough experience
@@naomijay7177 want a good one for jus typing and messaging whatevers i hear less pain on hands for them?
Am I the only one who love the sound of mechanical keyboards
Nope!
Sounds so relaxing tho!
finally some1 who understands me
I love blue switches, NEVER RED SWITCHES
Pendolino *Flicks Red Switch*
There Their They're when i write on blue i feel i write on mechanical keyboard
lol that membrane keyboard is the keyboard I use on the daily
That's a really good keyboard.
Samè
bruh mine has been abused for around 6-7 years and it still works great
i am also
same. i have it too haha
i think what most people miss is the repairability of the mechanical keyboard, when a single key doesnt respond you can easily replace the switch and get it going again (as long as the main board isnt damaged) unlike membranes
How i repair my old ass membrane keyboard is i slam my fist on it and then it works again
@@demijne9 Repair rule 101: Fist it
@@frozenturbo8623 i agree with this statement 100%
But u don't even need to repair membrane keyboard,it's always works fine lmao.
but membrane keyboard works for YEARS, specially logitech keyboards can work for 5-6 years straight
Funny thing is, I’ve seen a lot of pro players who plays from home that used the membrane keyboard because it’s comfortable to them.
Yep, I also use a membrane keyboard.
@ryuji you ain't a pro top👀
Because what matters more is how comfortable a keyboard is to use than whether it is membrane or mechanical. These people saying that "you're not a true gamer if you use membrane keyboards" are just spouting BS, many of them ain't even pro lol
@ryuji Try me, lmao.
@@srntnjl523 Unless we're talking about rhythm games...
1:04 I failed no but November
don't you mean nut?
@@GameDiagram
No butt
no, but november
Blue switches don't even sound good though, they're rattlly and plasticky. Listen to an alps blue keyboard or a box jade keyboard to hear what a good switch sounds like.
Oh no he is gay
Is no one going to mention how this man types with two fingers
Isn’t that what everyone does lol
@@Apwolsopcjrhei if you're typing fast no
@@mfadhil7246 if you type fast you wanna use most of your fingers
I do that too and still type fast enough. Not really a typer so idc about type speed. 😂
Yea. I noticed that. I remember we used to call that "hen pecking" lol. He seems to have managed to adapt his typing style to achieve a decent speed but anyone who knows how to actually type will definitely out perform him. That being said, I doubt he's doing any large amount of typing.
Membrane keyboard....cheap and does the job, Mechanical keyboard 4x the price and makes a clicking sound.....gotcha.
Please do your research
I heard that mechanical sometimes broke... I never had a broken membrane keyboard. And I had it a lot, even at work but never had any mechanical one.
Mechanical keyboards are overpiced, heavy, but do come with removable keys (easy for cleaning) and they give you nice feedback. but still overpriced
@@dete9191 Yeah... that's their biggest issue. But... people pay a lot more money just for razer tag on their stuff and usually razer is not so good as they say and it's always overprized. Also you can pay a lot just for some apple product, mechanical keyborards are not so expensive when you think about that.
@@dete9191 They're overpriced because you're looking at the wrong place, companies like Ducky, Anne Pro, etc are a really good starting point.
2:31 WOW THATS MY KEYBOARD, like litteraly one i already have for about 10 years or so, doesn't break, insanely good keyboard, really cheap, would recommend 10/10
@@sotiris168 yeah im a competitive gamer, so no.
It's so bad lol.......
got the same one for $4 at a flea market and it's been good to me for almost 6 years now
My keyboard as well
Lol i had one until my kid brother spilled something sweet on it and ants ate up the membrane
Matt... I seriously miss the "comin at you" line, that's what I knew all of your old videos by. I know you made the change because it's what you felt is right, but just wanted to let you know that I was a fan of it because it made you stand out in my mind, even though others may not have liked it. Anyone else in the same boat?!
+Nerd on a Budget So true
+zionlee1004 omgg I was saying the same thing lmao
Bajan Aviation lawlsss
What is it with people "not knowing" when they press a key? Do letters not show up on screen? Does your game character not respond when you press a key? I've never had a problem on any keyboard I've ever tried. What am I not missing? I feel left out, like I should be missing something.
Lol im so lost here.. I like silence and effordless keyboard. Its faster for me.
It's because you're not following the stupid kid's trend. Just the same as buying Apple products. Or you just love paying shitton of money for things. It's all retarded. Mechanicals aren't even new tech.
keycaps bottom out at 4mm travel distance and usually actuate at 2mm, you cant know where that actuation point is on a membrane but on tactile mechanical ones you either head a sound or feel a little bump
Orange Broom just press it all the way down
Why would I fatigue my fingers and get RSI lol? My blues are very good to type on
I'm a CS student who doesn't game. I personally value the ergonomic design more than the type of keyboard, though I also prefer the feeling and the price of a membrane keyboard. It's a no brainer for me to be using my current ergonomic design membrane keyboard, and it's the best keyboard I've had.
I can't understand how people can use horrible keyboards for their desktop setups. Thin portable keyboards with super low profile are understandable on a laptop, but at least use a better one for your desktop. Having no number pads also makes it so difficult to do proper work. All these keyboards are form over function.
Totally!
Wait, so you study Counter Strike, but you are not into gaming? That doesn't make sense bro
So you use a membrane but don’t understand people using bad keyboards? Huh?
Fun fact. If you were a computer user in the early 90s, most keyboards were mechanical. I recall having an IBM keyboard and until recently never realised it was mechanical. There was nothing special about mechanical keyboards back then. Got a Keychron C2 now and it's mostly great.
Had my membrane keyboard for 15 years now still going strong.
That Logitech keyboard even though it's cheap it is very durable I have that exact same keyboard for 5 years and it still works
Is that not to be expected from a keyboard? The cheapo keyboard that came with my old computer still works and it's like 15 years old or smth
Cheaper membrane keyboards are sturdier than their mechanical counterparts in my experience.
Which model ?
I used to get Logitech membrane keyboards for circa $20. The space bar would last maybe a year, then would turn to mush from being struck so much, leading me to replace the keyboard every year or so. I bought a buckling spring mechanical keyboard almost four years ago and the space bar is still functional.
Cleaning exists...
I hate how people conflate membranes with rubber domes. It causes a lot of confusion. The membrane sheet is a flat sensing component which you don't feel at all. The rubber domes in a conventional keyboard are what supply return force and tactility (usually mushy and sloppy), while a membrane is used to detect the keypress. This distinction is important, because the venerable IBM Model M uses a membrane for keypress sensing, but the buckling spring mechanism it uses for tactility, return, and sound is obviously mechanical. There are also rubber dome systems like Topre which use capacitive rubber domes over a circuit board, rather than a membrane. This allows Topre keyboards to have n-key rollover, which membranes cannot provide.
Amusingly, there are people out there who would say that the Model M isn't mechanical because it's a membrane keyboard, and at the same time, that Topre is mechanical. These same people would say that the IBM Model F-a keyboard using the EXACT SAME mechanism as the Model M, except over a circuit board-IS mechanical because it doesn't use membranes. This is blatantly insane, and it stems from the false dichotomy of "Membrane vs Mechanical" that people are putting out into the world. Mechanical switches and rubber domes are primarily a tactile component. A membrane is a sensing component. Cherry style switches like are seen in modern gaming keyboards have contacts inside, and so do technically act as a sensing component, but not all mechanical systems are like this.
The advantage of mechanical switches compared to rubber domes is that they can have a much wider range of tactility options, weighting options, can actuate before bottoming out, and are often mounted to a circuit board. The advantage of a circuit board compared to a membrane is potential for n-key rollover if the board is designed to to support it. Most rubber dome keyboards use membranes, but not all of them. This has nothing to do with how they feel. Most domes are poorly designed / are made of cheap rubber, which is why they feel bad. However, there are also some great rubber domes like Topre or BTC dome+slider which feel excellent. It all depends on the kind of feel you're looking for.
TLDR: A membrane is a sensing component, not a tactile one. A rubber dome is a tactile component, not a sensing one. They usually go together, but they don't have to. They are not synonymous. Some mechanical switches use a membrane, and some rubber domes use a circuit board. It is a poor distinction to use.
This is my second time seeing you in a keyboard vids comment section
@@ਚੱਕਰਵਾਤਬਰੂ I have opinions
Did they use you to train GPT4? @@babylfsh
I actually like the feel of heavier membrane keyboards. I'm used to type on a lot of laptop keyboards too so tactility has kinda grown on me. I'm planning to get a keyboard with Kailh Box Royal switches. I really love the them because they are tactile af. I'd still say in the end nothing beats the quality and feel of Mechanical keyboards but some of the membrane keyboards I tried were pretty good actually.
Do you play games on that keyboard and is it easy to clean?
Most Kailh box tactile switches (including box royal) turn clicky after a little while of use, so i would't recommend them
@@mac512-u Yeah I can relate to that 😅😂
I was using a membrane keyboard for almost a year, I just got my new mechanical keyboard today and I'm already loving it way better. I love the clickiness of it, i love the tactile feedback. And i love the big keys.
Still using it?
*"Are Mechanical Keyboards worth it?"*
Well, it depends on who you are. My old man owns a shitty membrane keyboard that came bundled with some shitty old long-dead PC he bought in the windows 98 era, it runs via PS2 port and runs perfectly fine on his windows 10 machine. He's a hunt-and-peck typist. Two fingers, that's all he needs. The thuds as he hits the keys resound through the floor, you can FEEL when he's typing something. Will he benefit from a mechanical keyboard? Clearly not. He has an almost 20 year old no-brand chinese membrane keyboard (it has dedicated calculator, web browser, eject, suspend, media and volume control hotkeys!) and it's doing him just fine. I'd hate to think that someone that types any less than 50wpm would think getting a mech keyboard would be a good investment for them. Membraners DO last, maybe they get mushy after a while but they can be a reliable product.
I type ~90wpm, and I type a lot. I play games often (probably too often). My series-1 ducky shine mechanical keyboard with Cherry browns (while not the perfect switch for gaming) makes sense for me. I tried an old Razer Blackwidow with blues as my first mechanical board, hated them. I haven't tried reds or blacks or Topre etc, but I've tried Romer-G and loved them as well...but they don't have an even actuation weight when your fingers don't land perfectly in the middle of the keycap.
Where am I going with this? Meh, buy what you think you can afford, but test things out to make sure it's comfortable for you and suited for what you want to do with it too.
I like your opinion
wow, ~90 wpm ?
that's crazy, recently when I was typing this, I got to 70-77 wpm only in every typeracer.com matches I entered and I use a laptop
so if you cant type fast, getting a mech keyboard isnt worth it?
EmeraldGameZ
Well some people have said it improved their typing speed by 10-15 wpm but they were already typint about 70wpm beforehand
orange broom
i just focus on the gaming aspect, but ty for info
I used to own membrane keyboards. Had many different variations of them. Then, about 2 months ago, I got a Blue Switch Mechanical Keyboard, with RGB of course, from Havit. I cannot stress just how much better this keyboard is over membrane. The difference is night and day! My typing was never very fast, since I am not a "traditional" typist, but it has improved considerably since moving to this mechanical keyboard. Membrane keyboards may work for some people, but for me, mechanical is the only way I'll type and game from now on on my PC.
Teacher:Do your work on the computer dont be to loud
Everyone:quiet
Me & keyboard : CLICK CLICK CLICK CLACK CLICK
The only reason I own a mechanical keyboard is the fact that they make the satisfying sound the make
i aint even got a mechanical keyboard yet😂😂😭😭
So you're perfectly ok with the mushiness of a membrane keyboard? In my opinion, the feel of mechanical keyboards are the main selling points.
@@MrPicklekvGygA it was a joke... Please just take it.....
@@lionnyrodriguez9064 I didnt see it as a joke because lots of people have the same opinions as yours. People get wet over the sounds of blue switches.
@@MrPicklekvGygA the sounds of blue switches are so amusing
I love membrane keyboards. I can easily swipe from different keys really smoothly without that huge gap between the keys. This really helps in my gaming especially in games where you need to switch from key to key really easily.
You’ve got mechinical tiny keyboards for your problem
Cherry/DSA profile keycaps exist
@Ac3FN what you're saying is irrelevant
Dont forget keyboard sizes exist lol
I actually really love the sounds of mechanicals
For me nah, IMO the mechanical keyboard sound, sound pretty annoying and will drive me insane if i always hear that.
@DEEJMASTER 333 prolly yeah, for now im using membrane because its less annoying.
@@Ryzen1 or just silent switches
@@Ryzen1 you've probably only heard blue switches which is one of the most common type of switch, and those are loud as fuck.
It all depends on personal preference and which keyboard you're used to. I'm used to membrane keyboards because I was always used to a laptop keyboard. However, whenever I see a mechanical keyboard the same price as my membrane keyboard, it is always coveted by me. Hence, I came to this video!
When i was using a mechanical i actually took longer, because the keys are taller, and the depth, and force to push a key is more. There is also gaps between keys, causing even slower reaction time. Idk membrane is what i used for a decade now and i think i will continue to use membrane.
PainBlame Is it a floating key keyboard? Because if it is then that could be the problem, what switches did that keyboard have?
I totally agree
I honestly don't know why people can use mechanical keyboards, I've been using a k120 for 8 years now and prefer it in everyway to a mechanical, less sound, faster key speed, way better for games I feel. I don't need some fancy keyboard to use, no need for it, just need a good mouse and I'm golden.
same here, I don't get why anyone would want more friction, more noise and less speed. they believe that are better because it's a trend. they brag about their keyboards in echo chambers, it's all marketing
Yes ! I've been using K 120 for 5 years and it's still the best. Tried mechanical keyboard and I think it's not worth for the price.
As some one who has used both the mechanical is far superior. It feels more responsive, more feedback (cause thats the switch i chose), and overall what feels like a higher build quality.
first time using a mechanical keyboard after using k120 for years and i say it's not a smooth transition.
gaming wise, it's far superior for rythym games, inferior to most other games.
Can i use a K120 keyboard for some FPS gaming stuff?
I remember when I got my first mechanical keyboard for myself in 2014. Ever since then, I haven't gone back to a membrane keyboard. I have a cherry blue for work, and Romer G for my main set up, and a brown ten keyless for my LAN/Mobile set up.
2:12 That's kind of my plan.
never fell to this mech kb hype. it also appears on youtube videos that mechanical kbs are slowly getting into quieter/more satisfying thud. membranes not only cheap but also resistant to water spills. mech kbs though gives you more opportunity for expensive features not found on membrane, lighting or RGB, exotic unique designs, and custom actuation.
I switched from mechanical to membrane.
After owning many mechanical keyboards and all of them chattering on me, some of them flat out dying completely for some unknown reason, and arguing with the different retailer's warranty department, even went as far as buying from the source only for the experience to drive me nuts with customs and runic warranties, I just decided fuck it and just gave away my mechanicals to anyone who think they can fix it. I don't understand, though. I clean my shit up every 3 days so dust isn't the problem. Hell, I even cover my desk with a fabric when I'm not going to use it for a long while. Faulty keys? I've replaced every keyboard I own and even the new ones get all chattery. USB power irregularities? Tried it on different PCs and the problem persists.
The membrane I used from way back is still working without any hiccups and has outlived all the mechanical keyboards I've owned.
Didn't even understand why I abandoned my membrane for a mechanical in the first place. I guess I fell into the hype that 'mechanical keyboards will enhance your computer experience'.
Ok Boomer
wow a real keyboard makes you work so much easier...
fuck laptop keyboards
***** actually it is not haha.. Nothing can beat a real-sized keyboard
laptop is a pain in the ass
So true - especially when you blind typing - the laptop keyboards are so much tight and small.
Totally agree, normally I can get ~70 wpm with a membrane, but laptop is more like 30.
bought myself an asus laptop... BY FAR they got the BEST keyboards
I have the same k120 logitech keyboard, I've had it for nine years and it still works completely flawlessly. Long lasting and durable as hell.
Same lol
I'm on year 10 of my K120. I've used it for hours every day for all these years, and it still works perfectly.
This is a great video, but I want to point out that Matt means "Membrane" as Rubber Domes, because technically IBM Model Ms are membrane because the buckling springs in that keyboard use a membrane to actuate keystrokes, and therefore aren't "mechanical." I just wanted to point out that, because IBM Model Ms are considered the best mechanical keyboard ever made, even though it is technically not "mechanical," and that Matt is talking about rubber domes, which are far inferior and mushier than "mechanical" keyboards.
So mechanical keyboards are louder? What are the benefits?
Harperlarp satisfaction
Harperlarp there are many types of switches that vary in these fields
Steven Jacks
touch typing exists, mechanical keyboards help you feel/hear the actuation point without bottoming out the key
Harperlarp none
Better tactile feel and accuracy, which lends itself better to typing faster without having to make love to your backspace key.
i feel like mechanical keyboards are better because if one of the keys stop responding then its easy to just replace the singular key rather than replacing the whole keyboard but membranes are still good
Membrane keyboards is allways gonna be my best friend.
BassFreak- Sweden Membran FTW
.Toxic there are different types of switches to reduce sound and other things. I personally love the sound of the blue switches imo :)
lmao
Had you had a mechanical keyboard, you would have heard you accidentally actuated the "L" in already twice. ;)
And I see you lost your Grammar in the meanwhile...
I like how everyone commenting just associates mechanical keyboards as loud, put some research first before buying
If I'm being honest, I highly prefer membrane keyboards when I'm doing typing work. It just feels better to me. Mechanical all the way for gaming, but for writing? Membrane.
All you did was trash the membrane keyboards. They tend to be smoother to type on in my experience, and if you need to work on one all day or have a kid around, they are easy to clean and are mildly waterproof.
my keyboarding teacher: KEEP THOSE FINGERS ON THOSE HOMEROW KEYS OR DETENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MLP chicken nuggets tbh I find it harder to type when using the homerow thing but that's just me I guess.
Late, but typing home row actually makes you faster. Im in 6th grade. before typing class, I had 70 wpm without using home row. When I used home row, I only had about 20-30 wpm. Few weeks later, I can go up to 100 making no mistakes (not needing to press delete).
I went to Staples and they had a mechanical keyboard on display. I couldn't tell what the switches were, but it was SOOO satisfying to use. I loved it.
+Staring Intensifies They seemed to not make a sound when they were pressed halfway down. The keys pressed fully down sounded more like a click than a clack
Insane in the membrane!
those audio comparisons were such nice ASMR
even a cherry Mx black, sounds way better
I use membrane but i really want a mechanical keyboard but personally the membrane i use is honestly amazing and is $6 while mechanical is like $20 for cheapest
I still use membrane bcoz the noise of mechanical keyboards are distracting! I love to hear music while learning, surfing, working and hear only gameplay sounds and soundracks, without any loud CLICKS
use silent switches
If it doesn't work use o-rings
simple
@???? Obviously you can't get anything close to the silent membrane keys but that's an option if you want to still make mechanical switches more quiet.
It does kinda get annoying if you have open back headphones
I have been using mechanical keyboard for gaming/work/and in general. But I find myself going back to the membrane keyboard when I don't play games. I like the squishiness of these keys. And this membrane keyboard is not special I have another keyboard that mecha membrane but idk why the normal 5 dollar keyboard feels so satisfying.
Mine is so hollow and rattly. It's almost not there in feedback but now annoying because I modded my mech to sound poppy marbly so by comparison it's just :( I have both plugged in though xD
Mechanical keyboards are one of those things. Even you love them or hate them. I can't go without one and I've had others use mine and want to know why my keyboard felt so good to type on. I think the main thing I like about my mech's are how engaging they feel to type on. I'm a touch typist and the extra heft and feedback from a mechanical keyboard just feels right.
One thing worth considering is the experience can vary greatly even with the same switches. For instance I have 3 keyboards with Cherry Mx Browns. Of the 3 my first and cheapest one feels like working a machine. Enjoyable to type on but not very refineded. My Das Pro w/Cherry Mx Browns on the other hand feels like tap dancing on the keyboard.
I'm fairly convinced that people who don't enjoy mechanical's just haven't experienced the right mech for them.
I still prefer chiclet keyboards, They are a lot quieter.
thr0nic Write? Lol
Interesting. Yes you can have an incredibly loud experience on a mechanical keyboard, and some get a positive feedback loop off that noise. But if you type gently and efficiently you can hit the keys without bottoming them out with a mechanical keyboard, and have it still be as quiet as a membrane keyboard. Rubber O-ring dampeners can make it even quieter. When you invest in a mechanical keyboard, you have this myriad of options open to you. With a membrane, you hit the key, you get the dull bump of the key bottoming out and flattening the rubber dome, and then you hit the next one...easy.
Hagz use mx browns with o rings.
And better
I had a keyboard with chiclet keys. It was kinda neat when I first got it. I grew to detest it. I still have it for "emergencies" but I really just want to throw it in the trash... :/
I've decided that I prefer Membrane Keyboards, the reason for this is that I am able to spam a key much faster than with a Mechanic Keyboard, I never had a problem with tactile feedback since when I intend to push down my finger I expect to get the result & generally I'm a blind typer, I also feel my fingers lowering when pushing down on a key so the whole noisy key thing I don't really understand.
The only Mechanical Keyboard I've purchased is the Razer Huntsman due to their marketing gimmick, and the technology they seem to be showcasing tends to cancel itself out by the delay between being able to press the key again but I do see the small difference it makes in-game, I'm not sure if I made a bad purchase or not but that ultimately led me to going back to that Dell Membrane Keyboard from 2006, even though the Mechanical Keyboard I purchased has a faster response time.
Probably your choice of switches.
There are different switches, Razer Huntsman has a newly made so-called optical mechanical laser switch which some people don't like, I suggest you try using Brown switches, Red switches, Red Silent switches, or maybe Silver Speed switches if you want swiftness.
Mechanical keyboards have :
Faster response time, customizable macros, removable switches, different feel, less actuation force, tactile click/bumb, no ghosting, more comfortable, better look, better reliability, up to 50+ million keystrokes while membrane only has 2-3 million.
Thanks for making this. Very Helpful!
Cherry MX Brown and Red are so nice!
I had a membrane keyboard for 10 years and not once did it let me down in all that time. It's survived hundreds of spillages, drops, knocks, bumps, scrapes and even a cigarette burn, and it's still going till this day. By contrast the mechanical keyboard I got last year has broken down on me three times already, twice due to some very minor spillages and once seemingly because it was in a bad mood.
I love the feel of mechanical keyboards, but in terms of toughness and reliability there's absolutely no competition. In fact, I'm having to use my decade old membrane keyboard to type this comment because the mechanical is having a sulk due to me not adequately performing the required prayers and rights before I turned my computer on this morning.
Membranes are less durable when it comes to spills, switch longevity and basically everything. wtf?
Bro you may have bought a Chinese third class mechanical keyboard. If u would have bought a keyboard of bloody gaming or red dragon . A4 tech . They would be best but I prefer bloody gaming they are best . Dude seriously
I own a membrane Genesis R33 for 6 years now and it's perfect for both typing and gaming. I bought a red mechanical switch keyboard,hyper x alloy,and it is absolute trash * the switch*,ill try to buy one with brown switches,but it feels so much better typing on a membrane keyboard tho :D
Cabbage Lord you have to try all of them before you say mechanical is worse than membrane
Going from membrane to mechanical takes sometime, but when you're used to it you cant go back to membrane
gaming keyboards tend to come in reds/blacks, multipurpose/typing keyboards come in browns/blues
./.
I prefer blue
Cuz its noisy and i love it , especially when i'm at work 🙃
And in the second place comes the red one
Ive never tried it but i guess by several reviews that i've already watched i came to conclusion that its quiter than the rest , and its made for thoose who write articles or even poems and song lyrics
Nope, read is linear and preferred by gamers, most people who type regularly use Browns. They are tactile and quiet. Typists like to
know when they have actuated the key.
@@bigannoyingbanana9194 thnx for the infos
membrane keyboard:
* light and portable
mechanical keyboard:
* heavy and sometimes portable
* better than a membrane keyboard in every possible way.
Gamer: Connects to voice chat
Voice chat: 1:04
i hate ppl who do that but im one of them :D
@@nickjensen4385 Hypocrite.
so you're telling me ive been making it harder on myself typing 160 wpm on a membrane keyboard instead of a mechanical one?
I have had the same keyboard since I got my old stock HP as a high school graduation present in 2009. The keyboard I have is an HP ku-0841. I have been looking into possibly getting a new keyboard for gaming. Top of my list right now are the Razer Ornata and BlackWidow Chroma V2. I know these three keyboards are all very different, but could anyone who knows keyboards tell me what would be the best pick? I don't really have any problems with my current HP membrane board and it is solid in design. What are some pros and cons or should I stick with this tried and true keyboard?
I just don't know what sort of difference I will notice. I purchased a Razer DeathAdder mouse a while back and honestly it is the best mouse I have ever owned.
Frack
Youve probably decided by now but i wouldnt recommend ornata as it mecha membrane meaning a membrane keyboard with little metal leaflets that make the click sounds, get a real mech instead
I had a mechanical keyboard, and the sound was so loud that wake up the whole house at 2 AM, and thats why, i changed to a membrane keyboard
literally same here. I come home from work really late and i can't really game because everyone in my house is asleep. Clicks can be very annoying
Also, i heard they don't last as long as mechanical, but hopefully, i won't have to buy one for a while
bruh its because you might be using blue switch and its the loudest switch... there is a more silent one...
@@hd8q81h i know, but membrane is cheapier
@@vrle1199 But mechanical lasts longer so its pretty much equal in price.
@@elitcx1 LOL what? Membrane keyboard in 10 years, still works fine. Mechanical keyboard in 6 years, turns into dust.
Mechanical Keyboards to me are such much better than a regular keyboard. You don't have to press as hard. and the buttons are super easy to feel. With regular keyboards I don't get that "responsiveness" that I hit the button. And I have big clumsy hands. So I really hate regular keyboards.
i’m newer to the pc gaming community and i bought a membrane keyboard thinking it was a mechanical but it’s still loud as hell and has a super good response rate. (if anyone was wondering it’s a HYPERX ALLOY CORE RGB)
I feel the membrane is quite elegant and I mean the feels and everything about it including the sound. Yeah, I'd pass mechanical keyboards.
In the beginning all keyboards were mechanic. Companies replaced them for the membrane ones for three main reasons: they are cheaper to produce, faster to produce, and you can use them in the same regular way as the mechanicals. Nowadays the mechanical ones have up to 1ms of delay, membrane ones about 16ms of delay. It's much more a taste thing than an improvement and people are driving crazy studying switches trying to find the Holy Grail of gaming in the less important peripheral of our PCs. It's all about marketing and feeling in your fingers. If you are a casual gamer it simply wont pay the cost.
I like Razer mechanical gaming keyboards because of that sound and the lower delay. Also, the deep keys make it feel more secure and premium imo.
so i currently use a membrane keyboard generally, I saw this and got curious so I borrowed my brother's mechanical keyboard.
I think mechanical is more clicky and it can sound satisfying(?) but it does get kinda irky when writing an esaay. its good for stuff like gaming where you use noise cancelling headphones but doesnt stop other ppl from complaining abt the noise lol
while membrane is more silent, I personally dont feel a skill difference from using either keyboards but some people have so I think its worth giving a try on both and see which you like
Bro goes online to spread misinformation lmao
Here's my comparison if anyone wants to know my opinion as someone who isn't a "keyboard snob". lol
Mechanical keyboards are more reliable(more durable and less missed key-presses), more comfortable+enjoyable to type on for most people(as you can customize the experience and choose which type of switches+keycaps you like to get the exact feel+sound+look that's the best for your own personal tastes), they simply feel like a more premium high quality product(heavier duty+better/fancier materials). If if a key stops working on a mech you can simply replace the 1 broken switch(which is hella easy IF you make sure to get a hot swappable keyboard) instead of having to go buy a whole new keyboard like with membrane.
There's also a much wider variety of mechanical TKL/compact, RGB, and low latency wireless gaming keyboards available on the market, while your options in these categories are limited with membranes. If you want all of the latest and greatest features(especially gaming focused), you pretty much need a mech as most KB companies don't really make high end membranes much anymore. And as stated in the video, if you want a more accurate tactile experience that let's you feel and hear the exact moment your keys actuated that way you don't have to bottom out every key press to make sure your types registered, you need a mechanical for that kind of tactile/clicky feedback(which is good for many types of people like super fast typists, people who can't look at what they're typing, people who are fairly light on their key presses, and people who have carpal tunnel syndrome/RSI from typing too hard).
That being said, you don't NEED a mechanical keyboard. Don't let people tell you it's a 100% necessity. Membranes can get the job done just fine, and even have some advantages of their own. Obviously they're cheaper, they are often quieter by default(although you can make mechanicals sound even quiter with the right options, and there's mods to get even quieter which modding isn't really a thing on membranes). And membranes are more resistant to liquid spills since there are way less actual exposed electronics within the board itself.
So it's just up to you to decide on if the advantages appeal to you or not, and if it's worth the extra money. I will say don't go thinking you have to spend over $100 to get a good mechanical keyboard though. There are a ton of high quality options in the $50-100 range loaded whatever high end features you could want(like my Keychron K8, wireless + hot swap + RGB and I paid $75), and there's even a good amount of super cheap budget mechanical keyboard as low as $30 these days that have surprisingly good quality/+features for the price, so price isn't as big of a factor as it once was.
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I own a few membrane and mechanical keyboards from Logitech G510 to Steelseries Apex for membrane. And Ducky shine 3 to CM Mech for mechanical. From personal experience I can say that membrane keyboards are the best for everything from gaming to typing. Mechanical keyboards have terribly high keys to cover the switches beneath them making them feel uncomfortable. Also the keys are made of low quality plastics to keep the weight low as it doesn't take much to activate a mech key. Membrane keys are faaar more superior all round. And even if it does wear out it cost next to nothing to replace it.
Yes and membrane keyboards are a lot cheaper in my opinion :-)
Rager and if you do want fancy n key rollovers and macros for every key it's just as simple as getting a PS/2 adapter and an Autohotkey download respectively :p
I still have a PS/2 plugin on my pc and use it sometimes it's awesome!
LegoJKL older buckling spring keyboards or Alps switches had a really high spring load of 65g and higher. So they had really high quality double shot PBT keycaps that practically last forever. While modern mechs have such low load activation that you'd have to use thin ABS keycaps with plastics so cheap you could smooth out the surface texture just by using it. You may say rubber domes have cheaper keycaps yet the ones I have had yet to lose its quality.
U must be bad then no offense. Even WoW players prefer mechanical kb. I cant stand that ugly thump on ur finger wen u press a key. Feels so ugly. Red n black switches r best
I actually really dislike mechanical keyboards. They have a very annoying clicking sound, my fingers get tired from them, because the keys are hard to press. They overall just feel unpleasant and oldschool to me. I think most people just buy a mechanical keyboard, because its kind of a "prestige" thing and people like to change the keys. But actually in my opinion they really suck. Even the really expensive ones that I've tried. Its really not allways the best option for everyone.
Just a purely out-of-subject input, but.... k120's are #$%&ing AMAZING keyboards. js.
I don't know why people dislike informative videos.
Maybe bc they are disagree with his opinion??
I still use a 1996 membrane keyboard in my new shiny 1500€ gaming pc and i've no regrets. Silent, light, cheap, and has that nice good old windows '98 flag in Windows button.
I game sometimes but not super competitive or anything but the main reason for me to buy a mechanical keyboard was for programming. I was getting so tired of keys not registering, double strokes, etc. It's 100% doable on a membrane keyboard, you just have to backspace more than you would on a mechanical keyboard to fix mistakes. It seems to make a much more noticeable difference to someone with a high WPM typing speed coupled with typing by touch. I got my co-worker a mechanical keyboard but he doesn't type by touch and his WPM is about 40WPM less than me. He glances up and down between the keyboard and monitor so for him he said he didn't really notice a difference in functionality like I did but it definitely 'felt cooler' and now he's looking to buy a second one when he had absolutely zero interest in mechanical keyboards before I got him one.
Don't knock it, til you THOCC it.
I had both and i actually prefer the Logitech k120 over a mechanical. To me if feels way better. Lol love that you have a k120. its a beast. I had a corsair k70 and typing on it i would sometimes make mistakes and gaming didnt feel all that better. I actually prefer the k120 logitech for gaming. I just miss the volume wheel on the k70. im for sure sticking with the k120
I got it a long time ago and for the price it's a really good keyboard and it's really cheap to replace If it Ever Breaks
even I have a k120 and a red dragon mechanical keyboard of some sort and trust me the k120 is MUCH better.
Can anyone tell me why Logitech stopped selling Deluxe 250 keyboard - it was one of the best keyboards for very low price: $15-20. Now they have K120 which comes in two versions: K120 and K120 Business - which I didn't know - and bought plain K120 - it has terrible key layout: short left shift split with doubled backslash key, and has vertical ENTER instead horizontal one.
You have it in different layouts. Mine is like that as well but I actually prefer it.. XD
ThePunisher_Rich I have a k120 too. Really durable.
Omg.. i actually have a mechanical keyboard but i didnt expect that i can change the light colour. Thnx very much man.
Sooo? Membrane of Mechanical.. Guys? I need suggestions :(
Get membrane totally not worth giving 100$ just for big keycaps and harder to press just because it has good sound( and performance) just get a membrane.
+Martin Petrov Harder to press? My MXBrowns mech keyboard has lighter keys than any of the membrane keyboards i've tried. There are switches that are even lighter than browns.
Membrane, Mechanicals are just louder and higher keycaps.
FirelordUnity I have a Razer Cherry MX Blue KB and a Razer ORNATA KB, I prefer the ORNATA since I'm the type of person who likes things quiet. It's really preferance. If you like clicky sounds, get a mechanical. Membranes aren't mushy. Well, atleast for my ORNATA it isn't.
FirelordUnity OHSHIT I MEAN RAZER ORNATA AHHHHHHH
i'm very happy with a membrane keyboard. you don't need a click to tell that you pressed a button properly
there's just something nostalgic and comforting about hearing the click clack of mechanical keyboard.
my experience with mechanical keyboard is when you use it long enough it will double type the letters, if u press "e" sometimes it will be "ee" sometimes other keycaps light doesn't work, sometimes you have to press it harder just to register.. while my experience with membrane keyboard is when you use it long enough the keycaps doesn't return to it's normal place after you press it like the rubber beneath the keycaps are broken or something, "WASD" are the ones who gets broke first. my Logitech keyboard lasted 6 years, while my mechnical keyboard usually last 1 year then more problems more occur.
i have 2 membrane keyboards that are louder than blues but they are very old ps/2 keyboards
Membrane keyboards do its job. But for me the mechanical keyboard provides extra. I used to have a membrane keyboard and it worked fine, but I didn't have much pride in the sound or the feel. It was when I got my first blue switch keyboard I fell in love with mechanical keyboards. Although a blue switch keyboard (sound annoying after a while) wasn't a perfect choice it was a good introduction to mechanical keyboards. I then got a corsair k63 which is when i started watching a lot of custom keyboard videos and sort of became an ethusiast without the gear (joke). I did a few basic mods to the keyboard and whenever I type on the keyboard it feels and most especially sounds like heaven.
hello,i am building a pc
what do you think about this build
Intel G3258
GTX 750 Ti
8 gb ram
+Vinc and Mei What's your budget? what do you plan on doing with this computer? what about the rest of the components?
Watch techsource's $350 gaming pc, is the same pc and it can play gta v on high 30 fps
i wanna play Dark souls 3 and League of Losers
Yeah this pc can run gta v on ultra 30 fps.
unless you already bought it, no you can't. look at some other benchmarks of the G3258. after a certain patch GTA V is unplayable on dual cores. an i3 with hyperthreading is a good option though,
I just want the quietest keyboard possible to play games at 3am
BREAKING NEWS: Tactile membrane keyboards exist!
The Empyronaut and they feel like shit
Are you talking about those terrible membrane mechanical feel keyboards?
@ 1:18 "So, as you can see the mechanical keyboard is much louder".
Yea, except for the fact that you didn't actually position the keyboards the same distance from the mic! Not questioning the results, but a decibel meter would make the most sense, even if just a phone app. It is important to position the decibel meter the same distance and orientation from the sound source. Distance makes a huge difference in measuring sound level.
"..as you can see, the mechanical keyboard is much louder.." lol wtf
I’ve always loved the noise of a mechanical keyboard but never knew what they were named. I’m the type of person who uses a typewriter cus I like the noise. I never knew that they were called mechanical keyboards. Something new to add to my wishlist thank you
Mechanical keyboard feels weird when I’m gaming it’s just too bouncy
i have both of them for typing only. K120 & Digital Alliance K1 meca blue switch.
i got 71WPM on K120 and 65WPM for DA K1. For long time use mecha make you feel fatigue.
i use mecha for my satisfaction only.
maybe next time i will buy o ring for my mecha
your issue is blues, they're super heavy switches.
I use that membrane keyboard really
They all look beautiful but I really can't stand the noise. 😞
Choices:
$15 = full 101-key Logitech membrane keyboard
$16 = non-functional 6-key switch tester just to "see" if you like mechanical keyboards 🤣
send it back afterwards and refund it saying the product wasn't a real mechanical keyboard
As a welder that has had the horrible luck of having working days when I used nothing but an angle grinder, I find the notion of banning a keyboard for being too loud hilarious. 😂