I started at age 27 and I have a kid. I’m 28 now and I’m making about 60k as a bmw technician. And I am still in school, I went the college route to get an automotive degree. You just gotta love what you do and grasp everything you learn and show good work ethic, trust me you’ll get a raise and they won’t want to let you go!
@@evanm9026 I went from 30k as a lube tech to 50-60k as a flatrate tech, 80k last year and estimating 100k this year being a diesel tech. Trend for me seems to be more and more each year
I'm a late bloomer, got married at 41, child at 42. 58 years old now. Associates degree mid 40's and Fleet Manager for a public utility around same time. I have 4 ASE's taking 5th tomorrow. If you have a passion for it which includes being a prolific reader you can do it. I'm with Nick on being in shape, it helps. If you're in a warm climate like I am go to a conditioned shop, it helps. Never been at a dealership, but from what I hear and read on line, it's a tough working environment, try fleet work. Our foreman makes $80K and our mechanic is approaching $60K, great benefits too. Remember learning is a life long endeavor. Oh yah.....company supplies all the tools too!
Was working to be my own boss in gardening, ended up changing carrier path’s at 34. Went to my local college at 34 got mechanize ag ,diesel technology small engine certifications at 35. Started working on diesel fleet buses ever since. Life is good. And great pay 💰
Old Head here 50 Still love being a tech, been doing it 28 years. You hit the nail on the Head, you gotta love it because it is a tough business. Id say if your over 30, ehhh that would be a max recommendation. Starting out its gonna be rough and the money will not be good for the first few years. Its a lot of hard work, no way out of that but to get out of that
So I’m going to be retiring from the Air Force this coming year and I’ll be through to the mstep program at uti(military’s dime). I’ll be 39 this year and I still think it’s a good career choice for me anyway because I’m a big car guy. I love working on cars so as long as the work place isn’t terrible it’s something I’ll enjoy. I also have one BMW at the moment and another one on order so I’ll be able to work on them myself. That’s why I chose BMW specifically. Lol. Nick, I’ve been enjoying the videos since it’s something I’m going in to. It does help with insight to the life. I also do detailing as a side business so that is also something I use as well. Nick, if you’re ever in Vegas it’d be cool to meet up and grab some drinks.
@@justinoyola5646 being in roughly the same age group and having just jumped into the auto industry from similar environments, I’d say jump with contingency plans and see how you fair. Just realize its a very physically demanding job. Theres no “wait periods” like the military and its not meditative like working on your own car. Your on your feet going non stop all day, and the cars never stop coming, so speed is key. Granted you walk out of there with that “first day of boot” purging of excess energy and no screaming, so thats a win.
@@justinoyola5646 Mercedes Drive prioritizes military. If you can get into Fletcher Jones Imports that would be a plus. I worked there before I moved to Arizona. Id look into Drive and apply. My 2 cents, UTI is good for guys going into Mercedes or BMW, the other brands don't seem to care for it. By the way, we just hired a Drive Grad with a longer military back ground recently .
@@justinoyola5646 We're about the same age. I completed school in 2021 and got a job at a European specialty shop. It's a VERY tough field. At first, you're going to be very slow at completing jobs because basically everything is going to be new to you (shop equipment, specialized tools, inspections, types of vehicles, work orders). It's go, go, go all day long. Fast paced. If your boss is understanding, he'll work with you. An asshole boss will make your job a living hell. You'll be assigned vehicles that you've never worked on. Don't know what an Evap Purge Valve is? Service writer told you to replace it. Better figure it out. Your body will be sore everyday (you'll be working and thinking extra hard due to inexperience). Trying to replace a water pump but it's seized in place? Gotta think outside the box, or ask a more experienced tech for help (hopefully, you have friendly co-workers). You have to buy your own tool cart AND tools. My advice to you..before you enroll anywhere, try to get a lube tech job at a dealership or independent shop. After a few months, you'll either like it or quit.
Really appreciate the video, currently 21 and signed up for automotive school last week. My current job is miserable and I’m young enough to take the pay cut and be able to bounce back. Don’t know much about cars atm but I love a challenge.
I started when I was 30 and it didn’t work out for me. I was really impatient with how long it took to get out of being a lubie and the politics of the whole shop just got to me. On top of that working as a Lube tech knowing my service advisors took MORE than any of us was frustrating. I’m in the aviation field now and I would highly recommend going to school to get your A&P license and working on planes. It’s a 2 year program similar to an auto program and you start off making double min wage. I love working on cars just not other peoples cars haha. Humbled by my experience I gave it 2 years and worked at 3 different Honda dealerships. Solely work on my own car and family’s.
Interesting. A friend's husband left the Aviation Mechanic field and went on to become a lawyer. I wondered why. He was in his late 30s as well. Is aviation mechanic field still growing?
Feel you on that I started at 37 at Porter and move up to lube and still here . I’m not likening the dealership environment and how they push and push cause they want to make more money so they take everything out of you for less . I’m focusing getting my llc and going in to vending machine business and getting back in to forex trading after putting it on the back burner . I mean making 2k in 4min ain’t bad if I get better at trading
I am 53 years old and looking to get into being a auto mechanic. I reading a UTI textbook nightly & ordering Delmar ASE test prep books to take my ASE's & doing my own work on my car.
I went to UTI when I was 36 and I was definitely older than most of the other students but there was one guy who was about 50. I am 50 now and been working in dealerships since UTI. I started with Volvo cars, which was good for me. They don't have "lube racks" at Volvo dealers - every tech does everything, so I didn't get the dealer lube rack experience but while at UTI, I worked at Sears Auto Center so that's like a glorified lube rack shop. I'm a heavy line (mostly) tech at a domestic dealership now and I LOVE what I do but it's damn hard work at my age. My shop is as busy as anyone could want and management, although they appreciate the high quality of my work, is always pushing for more flag hours. I go home exhausted and hurting every night but so far, the pain isn't unbearable. I have accepted that my body will give out before my passion for the job does. I wish I had started much younger.
@@ghostwrench2292 I am 36 and just starting this April at a Toyota Dealership. This comment was very helpful. I can't say I'd wish I'd started sooner because my body would be done by now if I had. So I plan on doing it for 5 yrs and then going to parts or fleet...etc. something less physically demanding but still in the Auto Industry. What do u think? Congrats on jumping in.
@@jumb0shr1mp6 I'm 38 and finished tech school in early 2021. Landed a job quickly at an indie shop. Definitely harder on the body when you're approaching 40. After a year, I quit and went on to work as a Fedex driver, but I feel like I dont belong there. The automotive bug keeps tugging at me, so I'm looking for a tech job, again. I'm also planning on leaving before turning 50.
I’m only 22, I worked at a tire shop for 5 months then went to my Local Subaru. They started me in Express as a lube tech but after 4 months they noticed I had potential and moved me over to the Main Tech Shop of Subaru, I love it so far! It’s a lot of new things to learn but I’m sure I’ll be able to learn quickly!
Started as a toyota tech, worked there for 12 years was able to crack $100k. Now I’m on the German side (Audi) and wish I would have came sooner $162k and $167k my first two years. There is money to be made, especially on the luxury side. And what’s crazy is we can’t seem to find guys with Audi experience.
I'm 30 years old. Became a mechanic at 20 after a two-year AAS degree in Automotive Tech. Worked my way through the dealerships and am now at an independent shop as a Master Tech with 4 years of GM training and 2 years of Toyota training. At 30, my back is fucked. My tools are worth more than all my cars combined, and have limited resale value. My skills are virtually non-transferrable to any other "maintenance-based" industry due to lack of actual certification within the field. My value is based on my productivity, which can greatly depend on others' abilities to do their job effectively. Half my coworkers have- or developed alcohol and chemical dependency issues. You will be taken advantage of, by service managers, by customers, and by friends and family. If you want to progress, you will have to get certified, attend ongoing education, and spend a LOT of upfront money on tools. The money is there, but it's few and far between. I loved my first few years wrenching, but there's a reason you don't a lot of older technicians.
I just recently turned 29 and have two children under two. I’ve been in warehousing for 9 years and have completed 42 credits in Mechanical Engineering at my local community and technical college during that time, but I had to take some time away from school due to my children and it really made me think about my current career and the idea of following my automotive passion. After listening to you, I believe that I can confidently say that deciding to take a service technician position might be the best opportunity for someone like me, given the passion for cars (no work experience in field) and my circumstances. Especially given that my current position’s salary is $37,800. Thank you! And keep on keeping it real with us! 🙏🏽
I got into the auto mechanic field in my early 20s and worked my to being a diesel technician. Seeing how physically broken down a lot of the older guys were, I wanted something less labor-intensive so I went back to school and became an accountant. I still miss the culture of the blue-collar world though.
I finished vocational school at 24 and started working for a Toyota dealership as a lubie. Worked there for about 8 months before deciding to leave. Didn’t have the patience to be a lube for years just to climb up to a line tech. You basically get paid spare changes while service advisors get paid a lot more just for dealing with customers. Also they look down on their techs a lot. Left to work at the airport as a stationary technician working on jetways repairs. I’m glad I did and I’m so happy where I am at now. Pays better and they don’t work you like a dog. Not thinking about going back to the automotive industry. Thinking about going back to school toward electrical to become a electrician. Good content as always Nick. Peace ✌️
I started at 29 years old, fresh out of the Army and I started at the bottom and was flat rate from day one. The first few years were rough, basically learning as you go. I'm 62 now, in great physical shape and I made 188K last year as a flat rate tech.
Hey Nick, I am 19 and today I applied to the local Toyota dealership as a lube tech. Excited to hopefully get my foot in the door of the automotive industry.
Started 2 years ago as a mobile mechanic, 48 now. Nice income and it is always in demand..as long as you got the passion and perform quality acceptable work. People see that and then you become highly recommended. Have a job almost everyday. Meanwhile going to school for Aviation Mechanic.
Nice video! I am 47. Been a Diesel and Auto mechanic for 21 years. The only downside is the chances for promotions. Most shops have eliminated shop Foreman and made it into a Lead position. Its the same job minus the pay and benefits and supervisor title. I was promised it 2 times in my career. I Left my last shop because I was promised Foreman with a 30 day notice. I gave up my dream of getting promoted. Found out later my last shop promoted a kid who was 28 and only had 5 years under his belt. For most of my career. I would show up to work 30 mins early and get dressed up and ready to work right away. Now I show up to work and then get ready and grab my coffee. I still work hard. But I will not stop what I am doing and race and get things done. I have not run into anyone changing fields who are older. I only have met early to mid 20s who start out as a mechanic. Most mechanics are my age anymore. We cannot hire another guy. We are working major overtime and it sucks. At least it’s optional. I have not worked overtime since my early 30s. The shortage is really bad. At least shops treat mechanics really well. 20 years ago if you called off work you would get yelled at. You were expected to not take breaks only lunch. Weekly guys would stop by the shop and ask for a job. I have been with my wife for 21 years. I have 9 year olds. Glad I paid my dues way before kids. We have a nice house and own rentals. My wife has a good job. We get to take big vacations and have nice cars and toys. I plan to retire at 62. Seem way to many guys wait to long and hobble around the shop at 60 plus in bad shape. I have always worn gloves and hearing protection from day one. The only issue I have is lifting my hands high for long periods of time. I started out as a helper and learned on the job. I never went to trade school. I have a huge stack of day class certificates and online classes I took. I was half way though a BA in Hydrology when I decided to drop out and become a mechanic. I would not recommend starting out as a mechanic. Past 40. One thing I made sure of was no kids till I had lots of experience and seniority. I paid all of my tools off my first 5 year in. I worked 60 hour weeks for years….
I just became a bumper to bumper tech with zero school or experience for Mercedes, I was a porter, then into tire shop since they don’t have “express Lube” I worked my way up within 2 years, some guys took 5+ to get into the shop but I was pretty mechanically inclined wrenching on my own cars, asking service director for permission and staying in his good side. I’ve been on the front line for about 5 months, it’s been tough having no real mentor and just learning as i mess shit up and taking wayyy longer than the jobs should. Very right about all the politics. All the OG techs don’t really like that I came up with no school or anything and get paid almost as much, I hustle. Work through lunches, 30 mins early already racking my next jobs up. I loved working on my own cars, but have not worked on my cars since I’ve became a tech. I almost joined the navy or air-force because I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Got blessed with my service director believing in me, but I just stress way too hard not getting help and essentially looking at a blank page when I was never taught to accurately diagnose. I am now looking back into the navy/Air Force for better benefits and pension. Also I want to be a lineman now so I would like to get school paid for. But who knows I might love it and stay in. Im 25, make 26.50, very minimal tools due to still not being sure about the career for the long run (guys are 15k+ in debt for tools). I take all advice from older more experienced mechanics/tech’s with gratitude.
Started when I was 25 as a lube tech at Acura then a flat rate tech at Bmw for 6 years, made the jump to now become a Rolls Royce tech. Making way more money then I ever have.
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Acura was $12, went through the STEP program got offered $23 starting and before I left bmw I was getting paid $30, now at Rolls I’m getting $35, if I flag over 140 hours I get a bump in pay to $40
@@luishernandez-xd4tx The program, known as the BMW STEP Program (short for BMW's Service Technician Education Program) is a graduation program of sorts to these graduates and provides them with all the resources and training to become a certified BMW technician.
Look after your health,and i mean look after your diet and fitness seriously and age will not restrict you from doing anything.Ive started a mechanic apprenticeship in my 50’s.
I'm gonna be 33 this year, I've been working on cars since I was a teen,but with no experience they want me to start as a lube tech,can't afford to take the pay cut unfortunately
Currently 22, been in the trade for 4 years now. Working at an independent shop working on both cars and medium duty trucks, the eventual dump trucks and western stars. It’s never too late to try it out. Many shops are looking for techs. The demand is higher than ever, atleast here in Canada. If you’re starting out, I recommend an independent shop bcuz you get a variety of cars and you learn more that way. Definitely thinking about going back to school to get my truck license. Cheers.
I used to be a machinist. Didn't really enjoy it and I don't like where the industry is going. I wanted to switch to automotive technician so I went to my local community college and started building my general tools set. Chewed through it 2 classes a semester at night. My wife and I organized our finances preparing for the pay cut. Then I got a job at a national chain. While they got my foot in the door, the pay was terrible. Last year I got a job as a tech at a Chrysler dealership in the used car dept. I'm 42 and am happier than ever
@@zlabfab487 I worked on CnC lathes, setup, programming, and turning. Had a lot of interesting work at a small shop, but low pay. Went to a large company for better pay, but that turned me into a button pusher. Bored out of my mind, no flexibility, repetitive. I also studied Manufacturing Engineering. There's so much automation coming to CnC that the operators are going to have less and less to do. That's when I decided to get out.
@@zlabfab487 get on the path towards it. Even if you just take one class at your local community college. I'd recommend building a starter set of tools that everyone needs... ratchets, wrenches, sockets, breaker bar, impact gun, pry bars. Get them from Home Depot or Harbor Freight. You'll have the basics when you start. Borrow specialty tools from the tech next to you twice, then you know what you need to buy next
I started fresh out of high school got a job as a lube tech at Toyota went to automotive school at night finished got my ase master in about 4 years in the business got my Toyota master shortly after that. Got lucky landed a job at Ferrari and 5 years later with Ferrari I make substantially more money but I agree with nick A LOT of factors other than brand of car is what will determine how much money you can make. I’ll pass on some advice an old timer gave me when I got to Ferrari. “Worry about fixing the car the money comes with fixed cars not comebacks”
Funny, I used to work next to an older tech who always said “comebacks are just another chance to make more money!” He may be right but my pride refuses to accept comebacks as a regular occurrence.
38 years old and started 5 years ago as a tire lube tech went to school to better understand repair and I’m doing more repair and making better money .
Try working on garage trucks… Had to pull a transmission. It had rat turds all over it. The garbage cooked for 2 months. The body leaked juice all over the shop. But working in the heat sucks also… lol
I was a toyota certified tech and i quit back in 2008. i see that it hasnt change. The main problem i had is that i worked at a high volume dealer. Too many competing Toyota dealers in an area and they take each others customers. Bean counters would load up the shop with too many techs than what the dealership had in customer base. They dont care about have too many tech since everyone is flate rate. Everyone was making between 24k-45k. 100k Techs didnt exist at toyota. back in 90s they got paid really good but over time everything just got cut. Working at the dealership isnt worth it.
IMHO, I think it's worth it. I'm 36 years old now, and have been in the game for 4.5 years. Graduated tech school in 2019 with my ASE Master Certification. I work strictly on used cars (reconditioning) and I'm also Hyundai Certified. That has earned me a $39/Hour, flat-rate position in the state of Idaho. Where you work obviously makes a difference, too. How efficient can you be as a technician. How efficient is the company getting parts to you. My employer is efficient, IMO. When it's prime season for us (March-October), I'm able to flag 150-170 hours per pay period. The other 4 months out of the year when things slow down.... 100-115 hours per pay period. My hours of work are 8:00am-5:00pm, with an hour lunch. It's a good setup. I would encourage people to pursue this industry.
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Not a problem, man. Some parts of our industry can pay well. Especially considering Auto Tech programs are only 2 years long. It really is a bang-for-your-buck trade. Hopefully you have a good experience at Toyota.
Just turned 35 here, debating on jumping into this after withdrawing from Sheriffs. Currently Security at a casino the last 5 years and I’m over it. Watching your vids definitely gives me something to think about. I did about 10 years doing paint and body but I’d rather learn the other side of cars. Checking out the t-ten and the pact program this Tuesday. Cheers!
@@salgilead2801 I checked it out and I felt that it was something I need to think about before I dive right in. The instructor I talked to at Miramiar was very up front. I'm leaning towards the pact program but I'm looking at other options.
Great points, I've been considering starting my own mobile mechanic business. I worked as a diesel and auto mechanic to put myself through engineering school. Engineering was great 👍 but now I've been considering making a career out of my hobby. Thanks for posting.
Good video, I just turned 20 and work at a Lexus dealership I went the no school route it worked out pretty great for me atleast, was a lube tech for about 6/7 months and now am a line tech.
Wow that's great man! Congrats. How much of a raise did u get when u went to the Line? Like $3 extra an hour? (If u don't mind answering) Were u hourly as a lube tech or flat rate as well? How many hours did u normally put in as a lube tech? (I start Tuesday!)
I agree with what he said at 6:45. If you are doing this just for the money you are gonna hate. I was 22 years old and had been goin to college changing majors. I eventually just said screw it, "I need to start a career and start making money". My friend was studying to become a car mechanic so he could work for his dad. I said ill do that too. 3 years later.....I hate it. So please please take the advice from a 25 year old who is trying to get out of this field. Only go into this field if you truly have a passion for it.
Yea I also wanted to add that you don’t have to LOVE wrenching you just gotta like it. No one is going to Love there job every single day forever eventually you get tired of it. But if you at least like it then you will enjoy it far more then hating it.
Tool cost is another point it is very easy to spend 10,000 within the first month just on everyday tools not including specialty tools you will have to acquire along the way.
@@IXINineIXI yes. Unless your a lube tech, pretty much every mechanic has there own set of tools and a box. Even lube techs usually end up buying there own cause the shop provides cheap tools that no one wants to use.
I aint certified but i do backyard mechanic for 10yrs now. Doing it sideline income because i work in a wrong field of career. I never ran out of customers due to low charge of labor in exchange. I love what im doing and love helping people save much more money than spending alot in actual shop.
I'm 70 been in this trade over 50 years. Am a Heavy duty on road, body and paint, I'm also thinking of doing my final 2 years of law school and becoming a scum sucking lawyer by day, a freedom fighter at night. My point is NEVER stop learning, ALWAYS keep an open mind and never, ever just lie down and let life beat you down!!
I started at 23 and went to automotive school, got multiple ASE’s. But I also had 3 kids and a wife to support. The way that they are paying now days. Unless you live with your parents starting out. It’s very difficult to get started in automotive. Even now it can be a struggle. And if your on flat rate it can be very tough. Outside of certain states you can literally make less than minimum wage. Be careful out there guys.
I started the T-Ten program last year in august while starting an internship at a local Toyota dealership. It’s funny I actually became interested only after watching Nikos videos lol. Anyways I’ve went from $15 on the lube rack to $17 and I’m beginning to get small repair work like brakes, small diags, etc. last year i had only done an oil change and last week I did a water pump on a Prius. From a 19 year old kid with very little experience, my opinion may not be very relevant but if you’re gonna become a tech, I would highly recommend school. It’s usually a two year program and your foreman and service manager love to see you pushing yourself and taking initiative. Even if you don’t know shit, showing up on time, a good attitude, hygiene, and grabbing the next R.O. will set you apart from the rest of the guys and your paycheck will reflect it eventually. Keep up the sick videos man I love them ❤️
I use to work at a local Lamborghini dealership. The mechanics use to make 150k + a year just due to the manufacturer giving them huge bonuses towards the repairs. I loved working there but realized I would never afford a Lamborghini working there, let alone an apartment. Also, didn't want to work for 5+ years just to get promoted for an extra $2 on top of the minimum wage. So, changing careers is understandable when it comes to being a mechanic.
Been working on Mercedes for 45 years and still like my job. Lots of diagnostic challenges for sure. Only problem though is can't make much more than 60 k a year. Lots of problem cars and not much low hanging fruit. Every once in a while will hit 60 hours a week but the good stuff never lasts!
The main thing about getting into the industry at an older age, you will need two things. TOOLS and MEMORY, if you have bills and you can’t afford tools your screwed. If you have a good head on your shoulder and can pay attention and absorb knowledge, you can turn hours and do jobs efficiently. I’ve never been the most efficient tech, I’m fortunate enough to have gotten out of a dealer and into a performance shop at a young age. Definitely know why your getting into the industry, don’t look at money and that goes for any career field… I thought that at Cadillac and now I work on old Volkswagens loll
I got hurt in December not even at work but it made me realize what a toll this industry can take on your body. I’m only 32 but you’re body gets less and less resilient as time goes on… If you’re gonna get into this industry or any industry that’s very physical, the best time is when you’re younger for sure.
My personal opinion is it’s not age but where you are in life. Example : kids, financial status, priorities etc. you need to have great work ethic and not be afraid of overtime to just be learning. I’m 23 netting $30k by may. Good money in the industry. People be lying so you don’t become a tech. Stingy people in the industry. Old heads still not understanding there time is up. Just hustle and believe in yourself. Age is just a number.
I agree! Its not about age its about the money. I have considered changing careers for a while now from diesel mechanic to electrician but its lower wages for a few years that put me off.
I was in your shoes. Worked my ass off the last 3 years and I’m making decent money. I’ve gone far and still have a long way to go. Babies will motivate the shit out of you lol
Update! At the time of my original comment was working at one brand dealer had to leave went to another brand dealer as a lube tech put in 9 months of hard work and commitment, I’m now flare rate. I know I got lucky getting out of the lube rack under a year but my advise is just find a rhythm to work efficiently as you can, stay busy in your down time, talk to the techs, ask to help or even watch bigger jobs. Bosses are either watching or hear about what’s going on in the shop if your working hard someone will see from managers, shop forman, team leads, or just other techs word will spread about which lube tech actually wants to move up. I know I’m just starting and still learning so I’ll try to update again in a year. Thank you for the encouragement @jesus and thank you Nick for the videos they’ve helped a lot!
I'm 47 and taking Automotive Classes right now at a local College. I'm semi retired and I know how to work on basic car stuff but I just wanted to take some classes to learn a little about the trade for my own personal knowledge.
started in 1968 cleaning gaskets for the masters,grubby job,17 at the time,the old guys asked me at lunch what i wanted to do,told them i wanted to make the kind of money they made,they taught me heavy line,then i made the best move ,trained on transmissions only,did this for 45 years,they still knock on the door,but i'm retired now ,good life if you work for yourself,couple of R&R guys,the skies the limit,specialize,don't let ego get in the way,train in one thing,300 million people driving,you can work till you are too tired or blood pressure keeps you from working,there's no time limit,train and go get it,its out there
I own a semi, and there are few if any mechanics out here. In the past two years, they have all disappeared. I do most of my own wrenching, have for quite a few years. And the work I see coming out of these shops is beyond ridiculous. I am repairing a friends right now, what a mess, just ordered a new turbo, actuator, oil cooler and water pump... It was a good motor with a fresh in frame until some "mechanic" got a hold of her.
@@michaelwright1602 i visited a buddy of mine owns a trucking company,as you know quite clearly,these trucks are money pits,when they run,they generate cash,when down, they are worthless,he had to go pick this truck up asked if i'd come along,i'm not a diesel repairman by any means,but an engine is an engine,i walked over and looked at his rig,he fired it up,and i yelled,shut it off,the mechanic heard me screaming at my friend,he said what is wrong,i said the rockers are rattling bad,he said bs,i know,rockers,he told john to fire it up, he said oh my,i forgot to clearance them,he said who are you,i said someone who knows that this engine is not right,he looked at john and said your friend just saved a 12500 dollar engine,he said yeah he's the one who built my race motor,guy says you want a job,i said i've got one,i looked at him and said,people who don't make mistakes,don't do anything,he said that's all you got to say,i said no,i put an engine in a car without a flywheel once,top that,we all three went for bbq,take your time,get called away,cover your work with a fender cover,come back to it,speed only comes with accuracy,there is no such thing as a fast mechanic,just make sure it runs as designed,retirement sucks,i miss the action and fun i had with the guys i worked with,enjoy your trade,be damn proud of what you do,we make a difference,we get dirty,grimy,but when it leaves your shop,IT CAN GO STATE TO STATE, that's the payday really
Age is just a number, but how soon do you want to retire is the real question? If you’re going for the long term expect to spend thousands on tools and diagnostic equipment if you want to earn serious money. Also I’d suggest starting in small shops rather than dealerships. You have higher chances of learning more there and start wrenching sooner. Overall learning to diagnose is key you want to avoid being a parts changer.
I had a teacher say that the MOST CRUCIAL part of school was to focus on electrical, and he is 100% correct. I graduated from tech school with honors and started at the dealer as an apprentice, learning way more in 3 months than in the 18 months of school. School is good for basic knowledge with paper certification mental competency, but nothing beats hands-on work. The ONLY reason I was able to push through school and dealer work was my interest in automotive systems.
I had several teachers at UTI say the same thing. I will tell you being proficient in electrical diagnostics is important but the techs who make the most money in my shop are diesel techs and heavy line techs. Electrical diagnosis is hard to get paid properly for (especially under warranty) compared to heavy line work. I've spent days diagnosing electrical nightmares and had to fight with warranty companies to justify the time I was asking for to fix the car versus when I have to tear down an engine and rebuild it, it's pretty straight forward with regards to how much it will pay me. For that reason, I prefer heavy line work because it makes me money but I also enjoy electrical diagnostics from time to time.
You are right about that. Warranty in the dealer will ask you to diag something for free and repair it for slashed times. The dealer has given me experience but I am looking towards diesel in the future. I'll just work as hard as I can for now and look for a way to switch later on. Warranty and service writers giving freebies are harmful towards technicians trying to make a living.
I believe it is always beneficial for anyone to learn a skill like being an auto mechanic. I work at a Gmc dealership as an autobody technician and we have two apprentices who just started both are in their early 30's. There is plenty of money to be made with either body, paint, or service.
Brooo love your videos! Im from Athens Greece and the last 20years im a automotive electrician (12years Toyota)..... And now im waiting a contract from Tesla Norway Bergen!!! Always chase your dreams!!!!!!
I been a manager of a oil change center, I clear 70k a year including bonus’s in my opinion that’s where the money is at if you can get into management just have to be patient.
currently 18. been working on cars since i was 16, and started a mobile mechanic business at 17. now i have 5 guys working for me while i work at a dealer. got a 2000 corvette from working construction while doing online school to advance my life. Built it from ground up, built motor with txspd rods and pistons, btr stg3 cam with titanium springs, ported 243 heads, and a fast 98mm intake with tb, kooks headers going to a Billy boat catback. started at nissan as a lube a week after my 18th birthday, started heavy line pretty quick, but got laid off to "overstaffing". now i am at a CDJR dealership as a lube. I'm making 25 an hour as a fucking lube though which is crazy lol. still have been a full time student at my local auto program the entire time. working out my classes through the dealer to become a lvl 1 to reach heavyline diesel. you inspired me to go towards fleet and that is my goal still.
I don't know why they make it so hard on techs. Imagine how much talent a shop would draw if it had a great climate control system, option of hourly/flat rate pay, good work environment, training programs. If you did that for your workers you would have to be fighting away the highly qualified applicants. But instead these dealerships that have millions of dollars would rather treat their techs like shit and constantly churn and burn them and be worrying about staffing issues, just so some guy at the top can buy another Ferrari. Honestly it seems like the industry is just exploiting these people's passion for automobiles, and if you don't have that passion- it just feels bad. Thanks for your insight! It was incredibly helpful!
I'm 34 and am enrolling at PCC (Portland Community College) Sylvania for Automotive Service Technology in the winter term! I'm very excited to take this step...I've been thinking of doing this since I was in prison..right now, I'm in construction with the Oregon laborers union doing Asbestos Abatement Removal, but I still want to learn about cars. I wouldn't mind getting dirty and busting my ass fixing some assholes' cars, because I'm in it to learn the trade, and I don't care for the pay- no kids or wife! So, life is about continuing learning new practical skills as I see it! This career path will be the perfect fit for me because I love puzzles and I like a challenge, which doesn't make work boring: The thrill of accomplishment comes in working out the problem. There is great satisfaction in overcoming.
I’ve made $105k last year in Toyota. I’ve also seen people retire from the brand. Your writer or dispatcher will have enough mercy on you to know what you can and can’t handle.
If you’re between the ages of 18-24 you can also go to JobCorps to become a mechanic or learn any other trade there is for FREE! I attended jobcorps and now work as a diesel mechanic for the railroad. Great job with benefits and good pay. Check it out.
I started by going to trade school it was like a 8 month course and part of the coarse is the last 8 weeks you go to a dealership and do an internship working with a tech and I just went in and busted my ass and within 2 weeks they offered me a job as an apprentice with the same guy
@@elliottnewton2212 Bumper to bumper sort of evens things out. Heavy tires, pulling cylinder heads, all day every day. I have seen a lot of guys that tap out well before they are my age and I've seen 60 year old push big hours. I still push good hours 150 ave in 2 weeks and the guy next to me is a year older and does better yet. Still its not for every one.
The type of cars you work on makes a difference. I spent many years at Volvo car dealerships, so there isn't much on those kind of cars/SUV's that's really heavy. I'm now at a domestic dealership and those pick up trucks (diesel and gas) with their heavy components can really strain an old body like mine.
I'm only 25 and work at a honda dealership. The vehicles aren't that heavy when it comes to parts and tires. But still its taking a big toll on my body. I lift properly and stretch before work but still after 3 years i can feel it.
I went to a community college that was heavily sponsored by a car manufacture. Got a job as a trainee after I passed the program, Took all the ASE and smog license. Still learned everything from my team leader 30 years ago). Being a Dealer technician for 30 years now. If you were to do a poll on master technicians if they would recommend this line of work to their daughter/son, I guarantee you that majority will say HELL NO. So enough with the nonsense about how much you can make money doing this. You can be a mailman and make more (retirement, guaranteed raise, a lot of PTO). This job is good for the mid guys (fast but not certified) master technician will get all the headache cars with no money to flag. Talk to your local dealerships master technicians and they can tell how many have left the business and joined The gas company, Electric, or just left for good. So seriously, stop this BS, when you haven’t put the real time and work in this business. Not hating at all, just sharing real talk from a Master Technician (I know I’m not the minority about this point of view).
Hey love the videos, Just wanted to mention at my toyota dealer as a lube tech, pay is $1 above the minimum wage plus $3 commission for each car we do. It adds up a lot and we get paid pretty good especially summer time and they don’t work us like dogs.
I will be starting at $15hr flat rate. Amy tips or advice for me to make decent money? Can I flag more hours thru the day? How is your dealer with overtime. I need 50 hours a week to survive with that low pay
It’s good you know how many hours you’ll need to flag. At first, you might need to work longer days and even on days off to hit your target. It won’t be long before you find your rhythm. Hopefully your shop will have enough work to keep everyone “fed” because if there aren’t enough cars, there’s not much you can do.
As I approached 40 I realized that I most likely could not be able to produce on a flat rate basis. I never was the fastest, I tried to do it right and avoid comebacks. It took a long time to find another career but many skills are learned while working as a mechanic. I was able to pass an electrical knowledge test and took a job in telecommunications; it was a good move.
The best techs I new made the most money, had the least comebacks, delivered on time,new the most shit,all commission men, there's no way in hell we would work hourly. You probably vote for democrats to.
Changed career to a motorcycle technician at 35. Finished and the following week was working and now I’m currently a Ducati technician. Still learning but glad I changed.
I’m gonna try to pursue this as a career, been going to local college and paying 8K to get my associates in two years. Figured it was better then going to UTI for 1 year and paying 35K.
I wouldn’t say your too old. But if you decide to go for it, you really have to dedicate time into training and growing. Focus on electrical and diagnostic work
at least it can be a trade skill that is always needed. better than any job only requires a ged. at least you can build on the craft and start your own
I went to UTI in '10 and learned a lot, never really recommended it though. I try to tell people to go to school for something else or at least a community college with auto classes. Anyway, I've been at the same dealer since then. Lube tech at 19, Line at 21 and worked my way up to Foreman at 27. I'm 30 now and leaned away from wrenching for the most part. As for age, it doesn't matter to me. I've seen 60+ lube techs that were decent but couldn't get over the hump, not because they weren't capable. They just couldn't understand electrical, which I highly recommend learning if you want to do this. That is the key to moving up.
Great video bro. Alot of good points. ive been at a Toyota dealership for the last 5 years and was thinking of joining an electricians union apprenticeship. Im gonna apply all your points to help with my decision. Im more comfortable than happy where im at now. Appreciate ur wisdom on the subject. 🤙🏾🇺🇸
I started officially at age 18, but was working on my my own cars at 17 and passing wrenches since i was like 5. I work on all makes and models at an independent and closing in on 195k a year
When you see how much money sales and F&I makes, you will walk away from parts and service and never look back. They look at fixed operations as suckers who pay the bills so they can make the big money.
I've been working on cars since I was little and still do now but I am a carpenter/ roofer. When I take a day off from one of my jobs to work on one of my pickups I feel like it's a treat because it is strenuous but does not compare to my normal day to day
I think that the area of auto repair you choose to enter is at least as important as your age. I wouldn't go into heavy engine repair if over 25 years old. I think that alignment, suspension and brakes would be a doable specialty for a person who is in good shape and general health. The big downside for the guy who is doing alignment work is that he also is often tasked with doing tire mounting and rotations. This aspect of the job is pretty rough on the back and arm's. Some dealerships will "wear out' their alignment guys doing used car rehabbing and buying large numbers of off lease units that need more work. I watched this situation just really grind down otherwise good performers.Tire changes should be spread out among ALL the qualified techs to eliminate wearing out one or two people. It helps preserve people who often are helping out the techs when something heavy or awkward needs a couple more helping hands. It is a team work thing.
I started out as an electrician and always did mechanic work on the side and the mechanic work got so busy I left the electrical and went full time at it.If you want to make real money you have to work for yourself and then you are in control .I will never work for anyone else.
I think if your past 34 and don’t know much of automotive it might be too old to start a lot of mechanic shop try to find younger people they can train it’s a lot of work to be a mechanic but it’s a good pay out if you love it, I start when I was 15 at a mechanic shop as a tire and lube tech now I’m 25 and making over 100k a year as a full time technician i recommend if your looking to come into the business over 30 to try small shop which will give you and chance to learn and honestly not to start at a dealership because it will take for ever to move up and produce money fast just my opinion
I was with Toyota for 12 years, been with Lexus for 5 years now. I AM DONE. Good and ready to move on to a desk job and work on my hobby cars. This career gets old. And I've made good money. Just shy of 100k. Master hybrid tech in Toyota and Lexus. Been a team lead and shop foreman. The industry is changing. Shops are only looking to keep cheap labor techs. High end techs are expensive and shops don't want to pay. Stick with it for 5 years max and move on to better things with less labor and frustration. There's easier ways of making money.
Hey dude. I’m currently working as a salesman but I love cars so much! Next week I’m going to have an interview whether I got accepted or not to enrolled in the school as a mechanic of some sort. Wish me luck! I’m 22 and I’m hoping to get enrolled. Nice video btw!!
I started off in the shop with no auto experience.. you’ll start seeing some money around 4-5 year mark. You don’t have to go to college, the dealership offers training modules and they send u to school. From the many people ive talked to. You need to have a passion to work ok cars or you will start to hate it soon.
I’m 19 as an apprentice at a Toyota dealer.. not really that related to the video, but I just wanna know. How would someone feel about a 19 year old working on their car?
As a 22 year old tech. As long as it's something you've done before and feel COMFORTABLE doing with no help it shouldn't matter! Since you are an apprentice you are still learning and probably aren't suitable to do major repairs. Cheers. I was 21 when I started doing R&R engine and trans replacement.
i’m 16 and currently work at an independent shop and to an extent most customers don’t want me touching there car but as for my co-workers i can get most r&r done faster
I’m 21 I started when I was 18 so I have 3 years experience and am an ASE master tech but most people look at me and get scared of me touching their car ig young means 0 years of experience to some customers
The customer usually doesn’t know or give a care for the age of the person wrenching on there car as long as it gets done right and in a fair amount of time
What is worth is getting your diag game on point and doing side work or even mechanic work but chargeing appropriate l, I do my forklifts on side and avg 5g a month on top my normal union job at 7200 a month. There's money to made out here just have to find where to get yours. I'm in the 562 socal
I always enjoy your vids Nick. There are so many factors that come into this topic. I’ve said countless the times, being a tech could be the greatest job in the world, if it weren’t for the “traditional” environment. My .02 if you have zero experience and are at the age of having responsibilities then you are probably out of luck making the move for the reasons you said. You will be at the bottom. If you get the lube tech stage at of the way when you are young then you can go and forth and you please, which is what I did. When I was at Toyota, we had a 51 year old lube tech who also served as a helper to us techs sometimes. Guy had a family, was always hurting for money and with the mistakes he made clearly wasn’t cut out for it. To each their own, but in a nutshell if you don’t have the employment experience in a shop and the ability to get ASE’s to build your resume, then your going to have a tough time getting established.
Graduated from UTI Nov 2021 Started BMW in Dec 2021 as a lube tech making $21/hr and I’m now 3-4 months in and my service mangers and foreman’s are setting me up to get started with the apprenticeship program which is a 6 month program where Ill be a Member Technician when Im finished with it (Level 3 out of 4 Level 1 being master tech) and Hoping I can learn as much as possible from the schooling as well as my mentor so I can start my career off with a bang! (21 years old)
How much of a raise/jump did u get when u moved to the main shop? How many hours do u typically flag? When u did Express, were u hourly or flat rate? did u do overtime ? (I was told I would be $15 hr flat rate) I want to get 50 hours since the pay is so low. I'm 36. Congrats on making it to the Main shop and doing well in your career .
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Starting as flat rate is gonna be tough, I started as a lube tech at a dealership taking auto classes at a community college, then stopped taking classes due to covid, I was making $1 more than minimum when I started then got a $1 raise by completing level 1 online training, about 7 months later some techs left/laid off and I got moved into what we call a level 2 tech with a $2 raise (basically a glorified lube tech that does recalls), then completed lvl 2 online training and got a $3 raise and do basically any job except for internal engine/trans work and that's where I currently stand
I started at age 27 and I have a kid. I’m 28 now and I’m making about 60k as a bmw technician. And I am still in school, I went the college route to get an automotive degree. You just gotta love what you do and grasp everything you learn and show good work ethic, trust me you’ll get a raise and they won’t want to let you go!
What did you do from age 22 to 27?
Did you go to uti ot did they have a training program
60k is not enough in this economy.
@@evanm9026 but that was only 1 year he could probably increase that a lot
@@evanm9026 I went from 30k as a lube tech to 50-60k as a flatrate tech, 80k last year and estimating 100k this year being a diesel tech. Trend for me seems to be more and more each year
We have a new tech at 51 years. He is really good and has skills. No age limit.
I'm a late bloomer, got married at 41, child at 42. 58 years old now. Associates degree mid 40's and Fleet Manager for a public utility around same time. I have 4 ASE's taking 5th tomorrow. If you have a passion for it which includes being a prolific reader you can do it. I'm with Nick on being in shape, it helps. If you're in a warm climate like I am go to a conditioned shop, it helps.
Never been at a dealership, but from what I hear and read on line, it's a tough working environment, try fleet work. Our foreman makes $80K and our mechanic is approaching $60K, great benefits too.
Remember learning is a life long endeavor.
Oh yah.....company supplies all the tools too!
Inspiring story Gary!
$60k in today's world is good pay, and what are benefits? Asking for a millennial. 🤣
Started when I was 48, enjoying it and making some good dough.
Sweet, Im done with school in May for heavy equipment and I just turned 46.
How much?
@@Kaiju_Universe385 over 60
Was working to be my own boss in gardening, ended up changing carrier path’s at 34. Went to my local college at 34 got mechanize ag ,diesel technology small engine certifications at 35. Started working on diesel fleet buses ever since. Life is good. And great pay 💰
Bruh I'm 45 and finishing an associate's in Auto Tech in May. Gonna be wrenching til 💯.
Old Head here 50
Still love being a tech, been doing it 28 years.
You hit the nail on the Head, you gotta love it
because it is a tough business.
Id say if your over 30, ehhh that would be a
max recommendation.
Starting out its gonna be rough and the money
will not be good for the first few years.
Its a lot of hard work, no way out of that
but to get out of that
So I’m going to be retiring from the Air Force this coming year and I’ll be through to the mstep program at uti(military’s dime). I’ll be 39 this year and I still think it’s a good career choice for me anyway because I’m a big car guy. I love working on cars so as long as the work place isn’t terrible it’s something I’ll enjoy. I also have one BMW at the moment and another one on order so I’ll be able to work on them myself. That’s why I chose BMW specifically. Lol. Nick, I’ve been enjoying the videos since it’s something I’m going in to. It does help with insight to the life. I also do detailing as a side business so that is also something I use as well. Nick, if you’re ever in Vegas it’d be cool to meet up and grab some drinks.
@@justinoyola5646 being in roughly the same age group and having just jumped into the auto industry from similar environments, I’d say jump with contingency plans and see how you fair. Just realize its a very physically demanding job. Theres no “wait periods” like the military and its not meditative like working on your own car. Your on your feet going non stop all day, and the cars never stop coming, so speed is key. Granted you walk out of there with that “first day of boot” purging of excess energy and no screaming, so thats a win.
@@justinoyola5646 Mercedes Drive prioritizes military. If you can get into Fletcher Jones Imports that would be a plus. I worked there before I moved to Arizona. Id look into Drive and apply.
My 2 cents, UTI is good for guys going into Mercedes or BMW, the other brands don't seem to care for it. By the way, we just hired a Drive Grad with a longer military back ground recently .
@@justinoyola5646 We're about the same age. I completed school in 2021 and got a job at a European specialty shop. It's a VERY tough field. At first, you're going to be very slow at completing jobs because basically everything is going to be new to you (shop equipment, specialized tools, inspections, types of vehicles, work orders). It's go, go, go all day long. Fast paced. If your boss is understanding, he'll work with you. An asshole boss will make your job a living hell. You'll be assigned vehicles that you've never worked on. Don't know what an Evap Purge Valve is? Service writer told you to replace it. Better figure it out. Your body will be sore everyday (you'll be working and thinking extra hard due to inexperience). Trying to replace a water pump but it's seized in place? Gotta think outside the box, or ask a more experienced tech for help (hopefully, you have friendly co-workers). You have to buy your own tool cart AND tools. My advice to you..before you enroll anywhere, try to get a lube tech job at a dealership or independent shop. After a few months, you'll either like it or quit.
so being 30 is the cut off? im 30 stocking shelves i need to pick a career asap , idk jack shit about cars either
Really appreciate the video, currently 21 and signed up for automotive school last week. My current job is miserable and I’m young enough to take the pay cut and be able to bounce back. Don’t know much about cars atm but I love a challenge.
I might do the same I’m 22 and want a career but I love cars
what school did u do?
The U.S. Army has a great mechanics MOS, wheeled, track, helicopter,heavy equipment, and so on
I started when I was 30 and it didn’t work out for me. I was really impatient with how long it took to get out of being a lubie and the politics of the whole shop just got to me. On top of that working as a Lube tech knowing my service advisors took MORE than any of us was frustrating. I’m in the aviation field now and I would highly recommend going to school to get your A&P license and working on planes. It’s a 2 year program similar to an auto program and you start off making double min wage. I love working on cars just not other peoples cars haha. Humbled by my experience I gave it 2 years and worked at 3 different Honda dealerships. Solely work on my own car and family’s.
I legit started school to get an A/P this week. What do you recommend to me?
Also I went to school to become a car mechanic and I quickly saw that I didn't want to work on other people's cars. Lol
Interesting. A friend's husband left the Aviation Mechanic field and went on to become a lawyer. I wondered why. He was in his late 30s as well. Is aviation mechanic field still growing?
Feel you on that I started at 37 at Porter and move up to lube and still here . I’m not likening the dealership environment and how they push and push cause they want to make more money so they take everything out of you for less . I’m focusing getting my llc and going in to vending machine business and getting back in to forex trading after putting it on the back burner . I mean making 2k in 4min ain’t bad if I get better at trading
mechanics also make twice minimum wage if they provide their own tools. its literally a federal law
I am 53 years old and looking to get into being a auto mechanic. I reading a UTI textbook nightly & ordering Delmar ASE test prep books to take my ASE's & doing my own work on my car.
I went to UTI when I was 36 and I was definitely older than most of the other students but there was one guy who was about 50. I am 50 now and been working in dealerships since UTI. I started with Volvo cars, which was good for me. They don't have "lube racks" at Volvo dealers - every tech does everything, so I didn't get the dealer lube rack experience but while at UTI, I worked at Sears Auto Center so that's like a glorified lube rack shop. I'm a heavy line (mostly) tech at a domestic dealership now and I LOVE what I do but it's damn hard work at my age. My shop is as busy as anyone could want and management, although they appreciate the high quality of my work, is always pushing for more flag hours. I go home exhausted and hurting every night but so far, the pain isn't unbearable. I have accepted that my body will give out before my passion for the job does. I wish I had started much younger.
@@ghostwrench2292 I am 36 and just starting this April at a Toyota Dealership. This comment was very helpful. I can't say I'd wish I'd started sooner because my body would be done by now if I had. So I plan on doing it for 5 yrs and then going to parts or fleet...etc. something less physically demanding but still in the Auto Industry. What do u think?
Congrats on jumping in.
@ J T - I think that’s a good idea. I too have thought when I can no longer physically wrench, I would try moving to the parts counter. Or teach.
@@jumb0shr1mp6 I'm 38 and finished tech school in early 2021. Landed a job quickly at an indie shop. Definitely harder on the body when you're approaching 40. After a year, I quit and went on to work as a Fedex driver, but I feel like I dont belong there. The automotive bug keeps tugging at me, so I'm looking for a tech job, again. I'm also planning on leaving before turning 50.
Sir what is UTI?
I’m only 22, I worked at a tire shop for 5 months then went to my Local Subaru. They started me in Express as a lube tech but after 4 months they noticed I had potential and moved me over to the Main Tech Shop of Subaru, I love it so far! It’s a lot of new things to learn but I’m sure I’ll be able to learn quickly!
Started as a toyota tech, worked there for 12 years was able to crack $100k. Now I’m on the German side (Audi) and wish I would have came sooner $162k and $167k my first two years. There is money to be made, especially on the luxury side. And what’s crazy is we can’t seem to find guys with Audi experience.
You should poach some British mechanics. The best techs will be lucky to hit $50,000. The average is around $34,000.
@@willspeakman2461 that's crazy...same her in Tennessee
damn. lucky guy
I'm 30 years old. Became a mechanic at 20 after a two-year AAS degree in Automotive Tech. Worked my way through the dealerships and am now at an independent shop as a Master Tech with 4 years of GM training and 2 years of Toyota training. At 30, my back is fucked. My tools are worth more than all my cars combined, and have limited resale value. My skills are virtually non-transferrable to any other "maintenance-based" industry due to lack of actual certification within the field. My value is based on my productivity, which can greatly depend on others' abilities to do their job effectively.
Half my coworkers have- or developed alcohol and chemical dependency issues. You will be taken advantage of, by service managers, by customers, and by friends and family. If you want to progress, you will have to get certified, attend ongoing education, and spend a LOT of upfront money on tools.
The money is there, but it's few and far between. I loved my first few years wrenching, but there's a reason you don't a lot of older technicians.
I just recently turned 29 and have two children under two. I’ve been in warehousing for 9 years and have completed 42 credits in Mechanical Engineering at my local community and technical college during that time, but I had to take some time away from school due to my children and it really made me think about my current career and the idea of following my automotive passion. After listening to you, I believe that I can confidently say that deciding to take a service technician position might be the best opportunity for someone like me, given the passion for cars (no work experience in field) and my circumstances. Especially given that my current position’s salary is $37,800.
Thank you! And keep on keeping it real with us! 🙏🏽
37,800 a year??
Are you still planning on finishing your Mechanical Engineering degree?
I got into the auto mechanic field in my early 20s and worked my to being a diesel technician. Seeing how physically broken down a lot of the older guys were, I wanted something less labor-intensive so I went back to school and became an accountant. I still miss the culture of the blue-collar world though.
Those bodies are broken. It's no joke the cigs breaks are heavenly tho
I finished vocational school at 24 and started working for a Toyota dealership as a lubie. Worked there for about 8 months before deciding to leave. Didn’t have the patience to be a lube for years just to climb up to a line tech. You basically get paid spare changes while service advisors get paid a lot more just for dealing with customers. Also they look down on their techs a lot. Left to work at the airport as a stationary technician working on jetways repairs. I’m glad I did and I’m so happy where I am at now. Pays better and they don’t work you like a dog. Not thinking about going back to the automotive industry. Thinking about going back to school toward electrical to become a electrician. Good content as always Nick. Peace ✌️
I started at 29 years old, fresh out of the Army and I started at the bottom and was flat rate from day one. The first few years were rough, basically learning as you go. I'm 62 now, in great physical shape and I made 188K last year as a flat rate tech.
Hey Nick,
I am 19 and today I applied to the local Toyota dealership as a lube tech. Excited to hopefully get my foot in the door of the automotive industry.
Did you get it?
Started 2 years ago as a mobile mechanic, 48 now. Nice income and it is always in demand..as long as you got the passion and perform quality acceptable work. People see that and then you become highly recommended. Have a job almost everyday. Meanwhile going to school for Aviation Mechanic.
Nice video! I am 47. Been a Diesel and Auto mechanic for 21 years. The only downside is the chances for promotions. Most shops have eliminated shop Foreman and made it into a Lead position. Its the same job minus the pay and benefits and supervisor title. I was promised it 2 times in my career. I Left my last shop because I was promised Foreman with a 30 day notice. I gave up my dream of getting promoted. Found out later my last shop promoted a kid who was 28 and only had 5 years under his belt. For most of my career. I would show up to work 30 mins early and get dressed up and ready to work right away. Now I show up to work and then get ready and grab my coffee. I still work hard. But I will not stop what I am doing and race and get things done. I have not run into anyone changing fields who are older. I only have met early to mid 20s who start out as a mechanic. Most mechanics are my age anymore. We cannot hire another guy. We are working major overtime and it sucks. At least it’s optional. I have not worked overtime since my early 30s. The shortage is really bad. At least shops treat mechanics really well. 20 years ago if you called off work you would get yelled at. You were expected to not take breaks only lunch. Weekly guys would stop by the shop and ask for a job. I have been with my wife for 21 years. I have 9 year olds. Glad I paid my dues way before kids. We have a nice house and own rentals. My wife has a good job. We get to take big vacations and have nice cars and toys. I plan to retire at 62. Seem way to many guys wait to long and hobble around the shop at 60 plus in bad shape. I have always worn gloves and hearing protection from day one. The only issue I have is lifting my hands high for long periods of time. I started out as a helper and learned on the job. I never went to trade school. I have a huge stack of day class certificates and online classes I took. I was half way though a BA in Hydrology when I decided to drop out and become a mechanic. I would not recommend starting out as a mechanic. Past 40. One thing I made sure of was no kids till I had lots of experience and seniority. I paid all of my tools off my first 5 year in. I worked 60 hour weeks for years….
I just became a bumper to bumper tech with zero school or experience for Mercedes, I was a porter, then into tire shop since they don’t have “express Lube” I worked my way up within 2 years, some guys took 5+ to get into the shop but I was pretty mechanically inclined wrenching on my own cars, asking service director for permission and staying in his good side. I’ve been on the front line for about 5 months, it’s been tough having no real mentor and just learning as i mess shit up and taking wayyy longer than the jobs should. Very right about all the politics. All the OG techs don’t really like that I came up with no school or anything and get paid almost as much, I hustle. Work through lunches, 30 mins early already racking my next jobs up. I loved working on my own cars, but have not worked on my cars since I’ve became a tech. I almost joined the navy or air-force because I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Got blessed with my service director believing in me, but I just stress way too hard not getting help and essentially looking at a blank page when I was never taught to accurately diagnose. I am now looking back into the navy/Air Force for better benefits and pension. Also I want to be a lineman now so I would like to get school paid for. But who knows I might love it and stay in.
Im 25, make 26.50, very minimal tools due to still not being sure about the career for the long run (guys are 15k+ in debt for tools). I take all advice from older more experienced mechanics/tech’s with gratitude.
I'm 21 year old and that too old
Started when I was 25 as a lube tech at Acura then a flat rate tech at Bmw for 6 years, made the jump to now become a Rolls Royce tech. Making way more money then I ever have.
How long were u a Lube Tech at Acura? What wage Did BMW start u at as a flat rate tech?
(If u don't mind sharing that info)
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Acura was $12, went through the STEP program got offered $23 starting and before I left bmw I was getting paid $30, now at Rolls I’m getting $35, if I flag over 140 hours I get a bump in pay to $40
@@quiksilver64 what do you mean the step program is that a course that they put you through ?
@@luishernandez-xd4tx The program, known as the BMW STEP Program (short for BMW's Service Technician Education Program) is a graduation program of sorts to these graduates and provides them with all the resources and training to become a certified BMW technician.
Look after your health,and i mean look after your diet and fitness seriously and age will not restrict you from doing anything.Ive started a mechanic apprenticeship in my 50’s.
I started at age 29 as a diesel mechanic. I started knowing nothing about diesels or cars. Know I’m making a leaving doing this and loving it.
You went to college? Or just got a job at a shop?
I'm gonna be 33 this year, I've been working on cars since I was a teen,but with no experience they want me to start as a lube tech,can't afford to take the pay cut unfortunately
this is the most honest channel Ive seen on youtube.
as someone in their 30s and planning a career pivot to this field im very happy i stumbled onto this video. really appreciate your content!
Currently 22, been in the trade for 4 years now. Working at an independent shop working on both cars and medium duty trucks, the eventual dump trucks and western stars. It’s never too late to try it out. Many shops are looking for techs. The demand is higher than ever, atleast here in Canada. If you’re starting out, I recommend an independent shop bcuz you get a variety of cars and you learn more that way. Definitely thinking about going back to school to get my truck license. Cheers.
I used to be a machinist. Didn't really enjoy it and I don't like where the industry is going. I wanted to switch to automotive technician so I went to my local community college and started building my general tools set. Chewed through it 2 classes a semester at night. My wife and I organized our finances preparing for the pay cut. Then I got a job at a national chain. While they got my foot in the door, the pay was terrible. Last year I got a job as a tech at a Chrysler dealership in the used car dept.
I'm 42 and am happier than ever
CNC machinist or conventional? Im working as a cnc operator and the job itself is very boring. Looking to see what other trades are our there.
@@zlabfab487 I worked on CnC lathes, setup, programming, and turning. Had a lot of interesting work at a small shop, but low pay. Went to a large company for better pay, but that turned me into a button pusher. Bored out of my mind, no flexibility, repetitive.
I also studied Manufacturing Engineering. There's so much automation coming to CnC that the operators are going to have less and less to do. That's when I decided to get out.
@@gerrye114 thumbs up for getting out and becoming a tech. Once I have an opportunity to get out I will.
@@zlabfab487 get on the path towards it. Even if you just take one class at your local community college.
I'd recommend building a starter set of tools that everyone needs... ratchets, wrenches, sockets, breaker bar, impact gun, pry bars. Get them from Home Depot or Harbor Freight.
You'll have the basics when you start. Borrow specialty tools from the tech next to you twice, then you know what you need to buy next
How long did u work at the National Chain? Are u making decent hours/money at the Dealership now?
Congrats
I started fresh out of high school got a job as a lube tech at Toyota went to automotive school at night finished got my ase master in about 4 years in the business got my Toyota master shortly after that. Got lucky landed a job at Ferrari and 5 years later with Ferrari I make substantially more money but I agree with nick A LOT of factors other than brand of car is what will determine how much money you can make. I’ll pass on some advice an old timer gave me when I got to Ferrari. “Worry about fixing the car the money comes with fixed cars not comebacks”
Funny, I used to work next to an older tech who always said “comebacks are just another chance to make more money!” He may be right but my pride refuses to accept comebacks as a regular occurrence.
@@ghostwrench2292 I’m retired now after 38 years at my last job . We didn’t get paid for comebacks.
38 years old and started 5 years ago as a tire lube tech went to school to better understand repair and I’m doing more repair and making better money .
One of the least fun jobs to do, are ignition switches/lock cylinders in the parking lot when it’s 110 degrees or 20 degrees outside.
Try working on garage trucks… Had to pull a transmission. It had rat turds all over it. The garbage cooked for 2 months. The body leaked juice all over the shop. But working in the heat sucks also… lol
I was a toyota certified tech and i quit back in 2008. i see that it hasnt change. The main problem i had is that i worked at a high volume dealer. Too many competing Toyota dealers in an area and they take each others customers. Bean counters would load up the shop with too many techs than what the dealership had in customer base. They dont care about have too many tech since everyone is flate rate. Everyone was making between 24k-45k. 100k Techs didnt exist at toyota. back in 90s they got paid really good but over time everything just got cut. Working at the dealership isnt worth it.
IMHO, I think it's worth it. I'm 36 years old now, and have been in the game for 4.5 years. Graduated tech school in 2019 with my ASE Master Certification. I work strictly on used cars (reconditioning) and I'm also Hyundai Certified. That has earned me a $39/Hour, flat-rate position in the state of Idaho.
Where you work obviously makes a difference, too. How efficient can you be as a technician. How efficient is the company getting parts to you. My employer is efficient, IMO. When it's prime season for us (March-October), I'm able to flag 150-170 hours per pay period. The other 4 months out of the year when things slow down.... 100-115 hours per pay period. My hours of work are 8:00am-5:00pm, with an hour lunch. It's a good setup.
I would encourage people to pursue this industry.
I'm 36 and I will start next month as a Lube Tech for a Toyota Dealer. Thanks for this comment!
Bullshit!
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Not a problem, man. Some parts of our industry can pay well. Especially considering Auto Tech programs are only 2 years long. It really is a bang-for-your-buck trade. Hopefully you have a good experience at Toyota.
Just turned 35 here, debating on jumping into this after withdrawing from Sheriffs. Currently Security at a casino the last 5 years and I’m over it. Watching your vids definitely gives me something to think about. I did about 10 years doing paint and body but I’d rather learn the other side of cars. Checking out the t-ten and the pact program this Tuesday. Cheers!
How did you like T Ten?
@@salgilead2801 I checked it out and I felt that it was something I need to think about before I dive right in. The instructor I talked to at Miramiar was very up front. I'm leaning towards the pact program but I'm looking at other options.
Great points, I've been considering starting my own mobile mechanic business. I worked as a diesel and auto mechanic to put myself through engineering school. Engineering was great 👍 but now I've been considering making a career out of my hobby. Thanks for posting.
Good video, I just turned 20 and work at a Lexus dealership I went the no school route it worked out pretty great for me atleast, was a lube tech for about 6/7 months and now am a line tech.
Wow that's great man! Congrats. How much of a raise did u get when u went to the Line? Like $3 extra an hour? (If u don't mind answering)
Were u hourly as a lube tech or flat rate as well? How many hours did u normally put in as a lube tech? (I start Tuesday!)
I agree with what he said at 6:45. If you are doing this just for the money you are gonna hate. I was 22 years old and had been goin to college changing majors. I eventually just said screw it, "I need to start a career and start making money". My friend was studying to become a car mechanic so he could work for his dad. I said ill do that too. 3 years later.....I hate it. So please please take the advice from a 25 year old who is trying to get out of this field. Only go into this field if you truly have a passion for it.
Yea I also wanted to add that you don’t have to LOVE wrenching you just gotta like it. No one is going to Love there job every single day forever eventually you get tired of it. But if you at least like it then you will enjoy it far more then hating it.
@@LetsDriftMedia technology is changing, and I heard rumor dealership sale department are vanishing
Tool cost is another point it is very easy to spend 10,000 within the first month just on everyday tools not including specialty tools you will have to acquire along the way.
I did forget to mention tool investments
Is it common to need your own tools? The shops don't have a general set of tools for everyone?
@@IXINineIXI yes. Unless your a lube tech, pretty much every mechanic has there own set of tools and a box. Even lube techs usually end up buying there own cause the shop provides cheap tools that no one wants to use.
I aint certified but i do backyard mechanic for 10yrs now. Doing it sideline income because i work in a wrong field of career. I never ran out of customers due to low charge of labor in exchange. I love what im doing and love helping people save much more money than spending alot in actual shop.
I'm 70 been in this trade over 50 years. Am a Heavy duty on road, body and paint, I'm also thinking of doing my final 2 years of law school and becoming a scum sucking lawyer by day, a freedom fighter at night. My point is NEVER stop learning, ALWAYS keep an open mind and never, ever just lie down and let life beat you down!!
I started at 23 and went to automotive school, got multiple ASE’s. But I also had 3 kids and a wife to support. The way that they are paying now days. Unless you live with your parents starting out. It’s very difficult to get started in automotive. Even now it can be a struggle. And if your on flat rate it can be very tough. Outside of certain states you can literally make less than minimum wage. Be careful out there guys.
I started the T-Ten program last year in august while starting an internship at a local Toyota dealership. It’s funny I actually became interested only after watching Nikos videos lol. Anyways I’ve went from $15 on the lube rack to $17 and I’m beginning to get small repair work like brakes, small diags, etc. last year i had only done an oil change and last week I did a water pump on a Prius. From a 19 year old kid with very little experience, my opinion may not be very relevant but if you’re gonna become a tech, I would highly recommend school. It’s usually a two year program and your foreman and service manager love to see you pushing yourself and taking initiative. Even if you don’t know shit, showing up on time, a good attitude, hygiene, and grabbing the next R.O. will set you apart from the rest of the guys and your paycheck will reflect it eventually. Keep up the sick videos man I love them ❤️
You are on the path to success man, keep this attitude.
I use to work at a local Lamborghini dealership. The mechanics use to make 150k + a year just due to the manufacturer giving them huge bonuses towards the repairs. I loved working there but realized I would never afford a Lamborghini working there, let alone an apartment. Also, didn't want to work for 5+ years just to get promoted for an extra $2 on top of the minimum wage. So, changing careers is understandable when it comes to being a mechanic.
Been working on Mercedes for 45 years and still like my job. Lots of diagnostic challenges for sure. Only problem though is can't make much more than 60 k a year. Lots of problem cars and not much low hanging fruit. Every once in a while will hit 60 hours a week but the good stuff never lasts!
The main thing about getting into the industry at an older age, you will need two things. TOOLS and MEMORY, if you have bills and you can’t afford tools your screwed. If you have a good head on your shoulder and can pay attention and absorb knowledge, you can turn hours and do jobs efficiently. I’ve never been the most efficient tech, I’m fortunate enough to have gotten out of a dealer and into a performance shop at a young age. Definitely know why your getting into the industry, don’t look at money and that goes for any career field… I thought that at Cadillac and now I work on old Volkswagens loll
i’m 18 still in school (graduate in may) and i work at a toyota dealership as a lube tech. my goal is to b a successful technician one day!!!
in school as in high school? how'd you get hired at a dealership ?
How is the job? How many hous do u get?
I start in a few weeks
I got hurt in December not even at work but it made me realize what a toll this industry can take on your body. I’m only 32 but you’re body gets less and less resilient as time goes on… If you’re gonna get into this industry or any industry that’s very physical, the best time is when you’re younger for sure.
Yea the older I get the more careful I have become
My personal opinion is it’s not age but where you are in life. Example : kids, financial status, priorities etc. you need to have great work ethic and not be afraid of overtime to just be learning. I’m 23 netting $30k by may. Good money in the industry. People be lying so you don’t become a tech. Stingy people in the industry. Old heads still not understanding there time is up. Just hustle and believe in yourself. Age is just a number.
I agree! Its not about age its about the money. I have considered changing careers for a while now from diesel mechanic to electrician but its lower wages for a few years that put me off.
Yeah but youll make way more in afew years. Youll double you wages
Getting in at 23 as a lube tech with a 2 month old, be back in a year to show my perspective for others 👌🏽
I was in your shoes. Worked my ass off the last 3 years and I’m making decent money. I’ve gone far and still have a long way to go. Babies will motivate the shit out of you lol
Just keep moving forward and keep learning
Update! At the time of my original comment was working at one brand dealer had to leave went to another brand dealer as a lube tech put in 9 months of hard work and commitment, I’m now flare rate. I know I got lucky getting out of the lube rack under a year but my advise is just find a rhythm to work efficiently as you can, stay busy in your down time, talk to the techs, ask to help or even watch bigger jobs. Bosses are either watching or hear about what’s going on in the shop if your working hard someone will see from managers, shop forman, team leads, or just other techs word will spread about which lube tech actually wants to move up. I know I’m just starting and still learning so I’ll try to update again in a year. Thank you for the encouragement @jesus and thank you Nick for the videos they’ve helped a lot!
Big Ups Homie im 22 finna make the same move broadie may god bless you!
I'm 47 and taking Automotive Classes right now at a local College. I'm semi retired and I know how to work on basic car stuff but I just wanted to take some classes to learn a little about the trade for my own personal knowledge.
The discord is such a W
started in 1968 cleaning gaskets for the masters,grubby job,17 at the time,the old guys asked me at lunch what i wanted to do,told them i wanted to make the kind of money they made,they taught me heavy line,then i made the best move ,trained on transmissions only,did this for 45 years,they still knock on the door,but i'm retired now ,good life if you work for yourself,couple of R&R guys,the skies the limit,specialize,don't let ego get in the way,train in one thing,300 million people driving,you can work till you are too tired or blood pressure keeps you from working,there's no time limit,train and go get it,its out there
I own a semi, and there are few if any mechanics out here. In the past two years, they have all disappeared. I do most of my own wrenching, have for quite a few years. And the work I see coming out of these shops is beyond ridiculous. I am repairing a friends right now, what a mess, just ordered a new turbo, actuator, oil cooler and water pump... It was a good motor with a fresh in frame until some "mechanic" got a hold of her.
@@michaelwright1602 i visited a buddy of mine owns a trucking company,as you know quite clearly,these trucks are money pits,when they run,they generate cash,when down, they are worthless,he had to go pick this truck up asked if i'd come along,i'm not a diesel repairman by any means,but an engine is an engine,i walked over and looked at his rig,he fired it up,and i yelled,shut it off,the mechanic heard me screaming at my friend,he said what is wrong,i said the rockers are rattling bad,he said bs,i know,rockers,he told john to fire it up, he said oh my,i forgot to clearance them,he said who are you,i said someone who knows that this engine is not right,he looked at john and said your friend just saved a 12500 dollar engine,he said yeah he's the one who built my race motor,guy says you want a job,i said i've got one,i looked at him and said,people who don't make mistakes,don't do anything,he said that's all you got to say,i said no,i put an engine in a car without a flywheel once,top that,we all three went for bbq,take your time,get called away,cover your work with a fender cover,come back to it,speed only comes with accuracy,there is no such thing as a fast mechanic,just make sure it runs as designed,retirement sucks,i miss the action and fun i had with the guys i worked with,enjoy your trade,be damn proud of what you do,we make a difference,we get dirty,grimy,but when it leaves your shop,IT CAN GO STATE TO STATE, that's the payday really
Age is just a number, but how soon do you want to retire is the real question? If you’re going for the long term expect to spend thousands on tools and diagnostic equipment if you want to earn serious money. Also I’d suggest starting in small shops rather than dealerships. You have higher chances of learning more there and start wrenching sooner. Overall learning to diagnose is key you want to avoid being a parts changer.
I had a teacher say that the MOST CRUCIAL part of school was to focus on electrical, and he is 100% correct. I graduated from tech school with honors and started at the dealer as an apprentice, learning way more in 3 months than in the 18 months of school. School is good for basic knowledge with paper certification mental competency, but nothing beats hands-on work. The ONLY reason I was able to push through school and dealer work was my interest in automotive systems.
I had several teachers at UTI say the same thing. I will tell you being proficient in electrical diagnostics is important but the techs who make the most money in my shop are diesel techs and heavy line techs. Electrical diagnosis is hard to get paid properly for (especially under warranty) compared to heavy line work. I've spent days diagnosing electrical nightmares and had to fight with warranty companies to justify the time I was asking for to fix the car versus when I have to tear down an engine and rebuild it, it's pretty straight forward with regards to how much it will pay me. For that reason, I prefer heavy line work because it makes me money but I also enjoy electrical diagnostics from time to time.
You are right about that. Warranty in the dealer will ask you to diag something for free and repair it for slashed times. The dealer has given me experience but I am looking towards diesel in the future. I'll just work as hard as I can for now and look for a way to switch later on. Warranty and service writers giving freebies are harmful towards technicians trying to make a living.
I believe it is always beneficial for anyone to learn a skill like being an auto mechanic. I work at a Gmc dealership as an autobody technician and we have two apprentices who just started both are in their early 30's. There is plenty of money to be made with either body, paint, or service.
Brooo love your videos! Im from Athens Greece and the last 20years im a automotive electrician (12years Toyota)..... And now im waiting a contract from Tesla Norway Bergen!!! Always chase your dreams!!!!!!
The only way you make money in mechanics is being an owner it’s slave labor. Become a welder electrician or machinists is where the money is at
I been a manager of a oil change center, I clear 70k a year including bonus’s in my opinion that’s where the money is at if you can get into management just have to be patient.
currently 18. been working on cars since i was 16, and started a mobile mechanic business at 17. now i have 5 guys working for me while i work at a dealer. got a 2000 corvette from working construction while doing online school to advance my life. Built it from ground up, built motor with txspd rods and pistons, btr stg3 cam with titanium springs, ported 243 heads, and a fast 98mm intake with tb, kooks headers going to a Billy boat catback. started at nissan as a lube a week after my 18th birthday, started heavy line pretty quick, but got laid off to "overstaffing". now i am at a CDJR dealership as a lube. I'm making 25 an hour as a fucking lube though which is crazy lol. still have been a full time student at my local auto program the entire time. working out my classes through the dealer to become a lvl 1 to reach heavyline diesel. you inspired me to go towards fleet and that is my goal still.
I don't know why they make it so hard on techs. Imagine how much talent a shop would draw if it had a great climate control system, option of hourly/flat rate pay, good work environment, training programs. If you did that for your workers you would have to be fighting away the highly qualified applicants. But instead these dealerships that have millions of dollars would rather treat their techs like shit and constantly churn and burn them and be worrying about staffing issues, just so some guy at the top can buy another Ferrari. Honestly it seems like the industry is just exploiting these people's passion for automobiles, and if you don't have that passion- it just feels bad. Thanks for your insight! It was incredibly helpful!
I'm 34 and am enrolling at PCC (Portland Community College) Sylvania for Automotive Service Technology in the winter term! I'm very excited to take this step...I've been thinking of doing this since I was in prison..right now, I'm in construction with the Oregon laborers union doing Asbestos Abatement Removal, but I still want to learn about cars. I wouldn't mind getting dirty and busting my ass fixing some assholes' cars, because I'm in it to learn the trade, and I don't care for the pay- no kids or wife! So, life is about continuing learning new practical skills as I see it!
This career path will be the perfect fit for me because I love puzzles and I like a challenge, which doesn't make work boring: The thrill of accomplishment comes in working out the problem. There is great satisfaction in overcoming.
I’ve made $105k last year in Toyota. I’ve also seen people retire from the brand. Your writer or dispatcher will have enough mercy on you to know what you can and can’t handle.
How long have u been there? How long have u been a mechanic?
J T I’ve been with Toyota since 2014. Started as a lube tech then, move up to line tech. Never took a lower position.
If you’re between the ages of 18-24 you can also go to JobCorps to become a mechanic or learn any other trade there is for FREE! I attended jobcorps and now work as a diesel mechanic for the railroad. Great job with benefits and good pay. Check it out.
I started by going to trade school it was like a 8 month course and part of the coarse is the last 8 weeks you go to a dealership and do an internship working with a tech and I just went in and busted my ass and within 2 weeks they offered me a job as an apprentice with the same guy
19 tho so it doesn’t really apply to the topic
I just started at Toyota today man so far I like it everyone I’ve met so far is cool so many young guys
Awesome!
I’ve had the best experiences/friendships made from Toyota
Honestly it's not the age that matters it's the toll on your body you have
I don't think working on cars is that hard on the body. It actually might be good for you.
@@arizonalifestylechannel2186 the toll on the body is tremendous over time depending on what you’re doing
@@elliottnewton2212 Bumper to bumper sort of evens things out. Heavy tires, pulling cylinder heads, all day every day. I have seen a lot of guys that tap out well before they are my age and I've seen 60 year old push big hours. I still push good hours 150 ave in 2 weeks and the guy next to me is a year older and does better yet. Still its not for every one.
The type of cars you work on makes a difference. I spent many years at Volvo car dealerships, so there isn't much on those kind of cars/SUV's that's really heavy. I'm now at a domestic dealership and those pick up trucks (diesel and gas) with their heavy components can really strain an old body like mine.
I'm only 25 and work at a honda dealership. The vehicles aren't that heavy when it comes to parts and tires. But still its taking a big toll on my body. I lift properly and stretch before work but still after 3 years i can feel it.
45, out of the industry since 2004, would love to get back in but i cant go back to 10$ an hour.
I went to a community college that was heavily sponsored by a car manufacture. Got a job as a trainee after I passed the program, Took all the ASE and smog license. Still learned everything from my team leader 30 years ago). Being a Dealer technician for 30 years now. If you were to do a poll on master technicians if they would recommend this line of work to their daughter/son, I guarantee you that majority will say HELL NO. So enough with the nonsense about how much you can make money doing this. You can be a mailman and make more (retirement, guaranteed raise, a lot of PTO). This job is good for the mid guys (fast but not certified) master technician will get all the headache cars with no money to flag. Talk to your local dealerships master technicians and they can tell how many have left the business and joined The gas company, Electric, or just left for good. So seriously, stop this BS, when you haven’t put the real time and work in this business. Not hating at all, just sharing real talk from a Master Technician (I know I’m not the minority about this point of view).
Hey love the videos, Just wanted to mention at my toyota dealer as a lube tech, pay is $1 above the minimum wage plus $3 commission for each car we do. It adds up a lot and we get paid pretty good especially summer time and they don’t work us like dogs.
So are u hourly or flat rate?
I will be starting at $15hr flat rate. Amy tips or advice for me to make decent money? Can I flag more hours thru the day? How is your dealer with overtime.
I need 50 hours a week to survive with that low pay
It’s good you know how many hours you’ll need to flag. At first, you might need to work longer days and even on days off to hit your target. It won’t be long before you find your rhythm. Hopefully your shop will have enough work to keep everyone “fed” because if there aren’t enough cars, there’s not much you can do.
As I approached 40 I realized that I most likely could not be able to produce on a flat rate basis. I never was the fastest, I tried to do it right and avoid comebacks. It took a long time to find another career but many skills are learned while working as a mechanic. I was able to pass an electrical knowledge test and took a job in telecommunications; it was a good move.
The best techs I new made the most money, had the least comebacks, delivered on time,new the most shit,all commission men, there's no way in hell we would work hourly. You probably vote for democrats to.
Changed career to a motorcycle technician at 35. Finished and the following week was working and now I’m currently a Ducati technician. Still learning but glad I changed.
I’m gonna try to pursue this as a career, been going to local college and paying 8K to get my associates in two years. Figured it was better then going to UTI for 1 year and paying 35K.
I'm 27 and really considering becoming an auto mechanic, but honestly feel like I'm to old. Your videos are very informative.
I'm 36 and starting next month. Go for it!
I wouldn’t say your too old. But if you decide to go for it, you really have to dedicate time into training and growing. Focus on electrical and diagnostic work
@@jumb0shr1mp6 yeah !
@@meorge9359 thank you for the advice. I'm hoping someone will take me on and learn the trade.
27 is fine.
at least it can be a trade skill that is always needed. better than any job only requires a ged. at least you can build on the craft and start your own
I went to UTI in '10 and learned a lot, never really recommended it though. I try to tell people to go to school for something else or at least a community college with auto classes. Anyway, I've been at the same dealer since then. Lube tech at 19, Line at 21 and worked my way up to Foreman at 27. I'm 30 now and leaned away from wrenching for the most part.
As for age, it doesn't matter to me. I've seen 60+ lube techs that were decent but couldn't get over the hump, not because they weren't capable. They just couldn't understand electrical, which I highly recommend learning if you want to do this. That is the key to moving up.
So community college instead of UTI
Great video bro. Alot of good points. ive been at a Toyota dealership for the last 5 years and was thinking of joining an electricians union apprenticeship. Im gonna apply all your points to help with my decision. Im more comfortable than happy where im at now. Appreciate ur wisdom on the subject. 🤙🏾🇺🇸
I started officially at age 18, but was working on my my own cars at 17 and passing wrenches since i was like 5.
I work on all makes and models at an independent and closing in on 195k a year
When you see how much money sales and F&I makes, you will walk away from parts and service and never look back. They look at fixed operations as suckers who pay the bills so they can make the big money.
I've been working on cars since I was little and still do now but I am a carpenter/ roofer. When I take a day off from one of my jobs to work on one of my pickups I feel like it's a treat because it is strenuous but does not compare to my normal day to day
I think that the area of auto repair you choose to enter is at least as important as your age.
I wouldn't go into heavy engine repair if over 25 years old.
I think that alignment, suspension and brakes would be a doable specialty for a person who is in good shape and general health.
The big downside for the guy who is doing alignment work is that he also is often tasked with doing tire mounting and rotations. This aspect of the job is pretty rough on the back and arm's. Some dealerships will "wear out' their alignment guys doing used car rehabbing and buying large numbers of off lease units that need more work. I watched this situation just really grind down otherwise good performers.Tire changes should be spread out among ALL the qualified techs to eliminate wearing out one or two people. It helps preserve people who often are helping out the techs when something heavy or awkward needs a couple more helping hands. It is a team work thing.
Sheesh my boy let’s drift media, 1st comment or what
I started out as an electrician and always did mechanic work on the side and the mechanic work got so busy I left the electrical and went full time at it.If you want to make real money you have to work for yourself and then you are in control .I will never work for anyone else.
I think if your past 34 and don’t know much of automotive it might be too old to start a lot of mechanic shop try to find younger people they can train it’s a lot of work to be a mechanic but it’s a good pay out if you love it, I start when I was 15 at a mechanic shop as a tire and lube tech now I’m 25 and making over 100k a year as a full time technician i recommend if your looking to come into the business over 30 to try small shop which will give you and chance to learn and honestly not to start at a dealership because it will take for ever to move up and produce money fast just my opinion
Accurate
I'm 28 and just joined the TTen program and just got into DTLA Toyota
Lithia , gotta love it
I was with Toyota for 12 years, been with Lexus for 5 years now. I AM DONE. Good and ready to move on to a desk job and work on my hobby cars. This career gets old. And I've made good money. Just shy of 100k. Master hybrid tech in Toyota and Lexus. Been a team lead and shop foreman. The industry is changing. Shops are only looking to keep cheap labor techs. High end techs are expensive and shops don't want to pay. Stick with it for 5 years max and move on to better things with less labor and frustration. There's easier ways of making money.
Thank you for the input man, after 6 years of flat rate life I figured I would be sick of it very fast. Glad I got out while I was young.
Laughed when he “ labor full , labor full , labor full” 😂😂only way to explain it 💯😂
Hey dude. I’m currently working as a salesman but I love cars so much! Next week I’m going to have an interview whether I got accepted or not to enrolled in the school as a mechanic of some sort. Wish me luck! I’m 22 and I’m hoping to get enrolled. Nice video btw!!
I started off in the shop with no auto experience.. you’ll start seeing some money around 4-5 year mark. You don’t have to go to college, the dealership offers training modules and they send u to school. From the many people ive talked to. You need to have a passion to work ok cars or you will start to hate it soon.
very true, if you are just doing it for the money you will hate your life.
I am 54 I just like to work on cars.
I recommend starting at a dealership and sticking to one brand. General repair shops can be overwhelming trying to buy custom tools for all makes.
I’ve been doing side work as a hustle from my day job since I was in my early 20’s took my first job in the shop at 30 so I started out late
I’m 19 as an apprentice at a Toyota dealer.. not really that related to the video, but I just wanna know. How would someone feel about a 19 year old working on their car?
As a 22 year old tech. As long as it's something you've done before and feel COMFORTABLE doing with no help it shouldn't matter! Since you are an apprentice you are still learning and probably aren't suitable to do major repairs. Cheers. I was 21 when I started doing R&R engine and trans replacement.
i’m 16 and currently work at an independent shop and to an extent most customers don’t want me touching there car but as for my co-workers i can get most r&r done faster
I’m 21 I started when I was 18 so I have 3 years experience and am an ASE master tech but most people look at me and get scared of me touching their car ig young means 0 years of experience to some customers
The customer usually doesn’t know or give a care for the age of the person wrenching on there car as long as it gets done right and in a fair amount of time
I started at 18 and left that same year. It wasn’t for me but the age that’s it too old is around 18-22.
What is worth is getting your diag game on point and doing side work or even mechanic work but chargeing appropriate l, I do my forklifts on side and avg 5g a month on top my normal union job at 7200 a month. There's money to made out here just have to find where to get yours. I'm in the 562 socal
Good points I should talk about side jobs a little more. So much extra income potential there
@@LetsDriftMedia yes that would be a great video
lube techs start at 20 in chicago
I always enjoy your vids Nick. There are so many factors that come into this topic. I’ve said countless the times, being a tech could be the greatest job in the world, if it weren’t for the “traditional” environment. My .02 if you have zero experience and are at the age of having responsibilities then you are probably out of luck making the move for the reasons you said. You will be at the bottom. If you get the lube tech stage at of the way when you are young then you can go and forth and you please, which is what I did. When I was at Toyota, we had a 51 year old lube tech who also served as a helper to us techs sometimes. Guy had a family, was always hurting for money and with the mistakes he made clearly wasn’t cut out for it. To each their own, but in a nutshell if you don’t have the employment experience in a shop and the ability to get ASE’s to build your resume, then your going to have a tough time getting established.
If you know someone that works in the dealer a small dealer preferably then you have a chance at moving up quicker.
Graduated from UTI Nov 2021 Started BMW in Dec 2021 as a lube tech making $21/hr and I’m now 3-4 months in and my service mangers and foreman’s are setting me up to get started with the apprenticeship program which is a 6 month program where Ill be a Member Technician when Im finished with it (Level 3 out of 4 Level 1 being master tech) and Hoping I can learn as much as possible from the schooling as well as my mentor so I can start my career off with a bang! (21 years old)
What state are you in? Cause getting 21 for lube tech is something I never heard unless diesel is involve
@@domoonthego9916 Cali
Will a BMW dealer hire me as a lube tech if I go to UTI straight out of high-school? so I'll be about 20
@@jbandz6194 how long was the UTI program?
I started in the express lane at 34, 2 years later I’m main shop and making competitive money.
How much of a raise/jump did u get when u moved to the main shop? How many hours do u typically flag?
When u did Express, were u hourly or flat rate? did u do overtime ? (I was told I would be $15 hr flat rate) I want to get 50 hours since the pay is so low.
I'm 36.
Congrats on making it to the Main shop and doing well in your career .
@@jumb0shr1mp6 Starting as flat rate is gonna be tough, I started as a lube tech at a dealership taking auto classes at a community college, then stopped taking classes due to covid, I was making $1 more than minimum when I started then got a $1 raise by completing level 1 online training, about 7 months later some techs left/laid off and I got moved into what we call a level 2 tech with a $2 raise (basically a glorified lube tech that does recalls), then completed lvl 2 online training and got a $3 raise and do basically any job except for internal engine/trans work and that's where I currently stand