Ranking Every Starting QB in the NFL: Mahomes, Lamar or Allen No. 1? | Nerd Sesh x Theo Ash

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  • Опубліковано 16 січ 2025
  • The nerds are joined by Theo Ash of the Stay Hot podcast to rank EVERY SINGLE starting QB in the NFL. Is Baker Mayfield Top 10 or outside the Top 20? Is Sam Darnold entering elite conversations? Is Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert the better QB? Does Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes deserve to be viewed as QB1? We’re diving into it all!
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    00:03:36 - Criteria
    00:06:00 - 32-25
    00:37:08 - 24-20
    01:24:33 - 19-15
    01:57:44 - 14-10
    02:23:28 - 9-6
    02:38:19 - Top 5 QBs
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  • @tonj02
    @tonj02 24 дні тому +262

    Desperately need time stamps

    • @rob_3255
      @rob_3255 24 дні тому +19

      They don’t read comments ppl have been saying this since for months

    • @bumpa_bb7162
      @bumpa_bb7162 24 дні тому +22

      Look at the description

    • @rob_3255
      @rob_3255 24 дні тому

      @@bumpa_bb7162just got added wasn’t there before

    • @FictionConvert
      @FictionConvert 24 дні тому +1

      I just scrolled to the end to hear their take on Herbert ⚡️

    • @JasonBrendan-td4qb
      @JasonBrendan-td4qb 21 день тому +1

      And graphics lol

  • @andrewcurtis6902
    @andrewcurtis6902 24 дні тому +46

    Theo man it’s ok to admit that you were wrong about Baker

  • @princenhliz93
    @princenhliz93 24 дні тому +36

    "I don't think Will Levis has a brain" 😂😂😂😂

  • @ArchibaldHimothy
    @ArchibaldHimothy 24 дні тому +49

    Herbert to Ladd is pretty much Gen Z Brady to Edelman

    • @gavinbaskette4701
      @gavinbaskette4701 23 дні тому +1

      Am I misinterpreting or are you implying that rings will be won with them?

    • @ArchibaldHimothy
      @ArchibaldHimothy 23 дні тому +1

      @ I’m just comparing the QB play style to the WR profiles, Ladd is a Quicker Edelman with the same size and can more damage a bit outside.

  • @benburrow2993
    @benburrow2993 24 дні тому +15

    Excited for the Cooper Rush top 15 discussion

  • @dylanleach5982
    @dylanleach5982 24 дні тому +11

    I’ve never been so excited to see a video pop up on the UA-cam feed

  • @Deuce1042
    @Deuce1042 24 дні тому +38

    People act like the Chiefs are the only playoff game Lamar played in last year. He took apart the Texans in the divisional round.

    • @AllStarRally
      @AllStarRally 24 дні тому +15

      2 pass td's, two rush td's, qbr over 100 and 100+ rushing yards. Never been done in regular season or post season history. First playoff game post greg roman. Mahomes struggled in that ravens game too..

    • @SirChadwick84
      @SirChadwick84 23 дні тому

      ​@@AllStarRallyQBR maxes out at 100, over 100 isn't possible.

    • @ethanial3671
      @ethanial3671 23 дні тому +4

      @@AllStarRallyI don’t think mahomes struggled at all in that game tho. He scored on every single drive where the game was within one score so the game was never really close

    • @josephhandy8767
      @josephhandy8767 23 дні тому +3

      @@ethanial3671they didn’t score the whole second half lmao. They only scored 17 pts against us, he struggled. The problem wasn’t that the Chiefs beat us, but like most games we beat ourselves. I’m pretty sure we had 2 red zone turnovers and a missed fg that game smh

    • @gavinbaskette4701
      @gavinbaskette4701 23 дні тому +2

      @@SirChadwick84I’m sure he meant passer rating

  • @ethanial3671
    @ethanial3671 23 дні тому +14

    Not having mahomes at 1 is just stupid to me. He is better this regular season than last season and in the playoffs last year he was perfect and outplayed Lamar and Josh when people thought that they were better. Until someone else wins a playoff game against him there is no argument for anyone else

    • @kye4216
      @kye4216 23 дні тому +4

      IMO Mahomes is the best QB of all time. But he hasn’t played like the best QB in the league for the last couple years.

    • @joshuahartman2555
      @joshuahartman2555 21 день тому

      Mahomes is the only athlete who gets penalized… for winning. Last year he literally won the super bowl and everyone collectively acts like it was a bad thing because he didn’t do it by accumulating rushing yards.

    • @SafeUntilDawn
      @SafeUntilDawn 21 день тому

      100% agree with you. It’s funny how disrespected Mahomes is… and outside of Lamar’s 2 REGULAR SEASON MVPs… MAHOMES HAS ALL THE HARDWARE.

    • @SafeUntilDawn
      @SafeUntilDawn 21 день тому +2

      @@kye4216100% agree. Theyve lost 1 game in 365 days. Mahomes is as clutch as it gets, while everyone is drooling over Lamar’s and Josh’s stats.. Mahomes is bringing home superbowls. Period.

    • @shamrockshawtty
      @shamrockshawtty 21 день тому +2

      Mahomes is a system QB. Simple as

  • @P-V-H
    @P-V-H 24 дні тому +6

    First video I’ve seen from yall. Nice vid fellas

  • @skyloblue9794
    @skyloblue9794 23 дні тому +12

    Hurts at 16-15 when his winning record is better than almost everyone else is insane. Sure they have a great offense but we just saw what happened when he doesn’t play. Losing a 14 point lead and not scoring as much as they did in one quarter with Jalen. That offense strength is not an excuse for Jalen’s resume.

    • @Rhemmy09
      @Rhemmy09 23 дні тому +13

      Read the title lmao. Mention what hurts does better as a quarterback than the players above him rather than wins/team record. He isn’t even a top 3 player on his offense.

    • @poppatato4183
      @poppatato4183 22 дні тому

      ​@@Rhemmy09How many qbs are even close to as mobile as Hurts?

    • @LeBronAlGaib
      @LeBronAlGaib 22 дні тому +3

      @@poppatato4183 not many. many are better athletically and creatively though

    • @poppatato4183
      @poppatato4183 22 дні тому

      @@LeBronAlGaib A very small handful of starters are more athletic, and its hard to measure a qbs creativity when they hardly "get out of structure" for lack of a better term

    • @poppatato4183
      @poppatato4183 22 дні тому

      @@LeBronAlGaib How many starters would u say are more athletic and creative though?

  • @thegods747
    @thegods747 21 день тому +5

    Jalen Hurts’ performance in the Super Bowl is so slept on.

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 21 день тому

      Yeah but also since that game he hasn't been that dude. Like maybe that one game vs the bills but he's not the reason they win since that game

    • @bigb7294
      @bigb7294 21 день тому

      @@vsauce4678You didn’t watch him at all last year 😂

    • @ReggieHanson-z5j
      @ReggieHanson-z5j 20 днів тому

      @@bigb7294 he could’ve won Super Bowl mvp even in the loss I don’t think it’s crazy to say he hasn’t been as good as that since

  • @AvrahamDiallo
    @AvrahamDiallo 23 дні тому +22

    The comp for Lamar and Josh in playoffs is pretty irrelevant considering Josh got to pad his stats against 6th or 7th seeds while he really didn't do much after the WC round. Both have 1 AFCCG appearance lol.

    • @jametrieharris8005
      @jametrieharris8005 23 дні тому +3

      Exactly lmao ppl skip the fact Josh had 2 extra tries (2021,2022) and they still have the same amount of appearances. He hasn’t beat a starting caliber player

    • @mac9108
      @mac9108 21 день тому +2

      Lamar lost to Ryan tannehill

    • @huntermorris7421
      @huntermorris7421 18 днів тому +1

      Correction, he lost to Derrick Henry and his receivers dropped 8 passes, many of which were drive enders or would have been a TD if caught.

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      "Didn't do much" only delivered the most clutch game in history (thrown away by McDermott).

    • @jametrieharris8005
      @jametrieharris8005 16 днів тому

      @@MrPhilaCuse he was on the wrong side of it . Clutch for mahomes

  • @laredolassoo
    @laredolassoo 23 дні тому +3

    This was really fun, and well done. Great guest to fill out the picks. But I say this for all of y'all's benefit, truly: Darnold at 14 is nasty work. Granted, your criteria was who could win a game tomorrow, so prior history is bound to play a role. But if you watch the games in full, Darnold has been who you think Jordan love is (with better ball security and decisions). Listen to the qualifiers you put on Stafford, Love, Mayfield etc yet ranked them (mostly) much higher. Anyway, you're missing out on an incredible story in how dominant Darnold has been (2nd in explosive plays, best against the blitz).

  • @tm7517
    @tm7517 23 дні тому +9

    Josh Allen has been to one afc championship. The playoff success of Josh Allen? Look if we go by playoff success. There are 4 current qbs that have won a Super Bowl.
    Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, and Stafford.
    The current qb’s who have played in a Super Bowl and lost
    Mahomes, Wilson, Hurts, Purdy, Burrow, Goff, and Garoppolo.
    So the only in their prime qb that’s have had the ultimate playoff success is Mahomes. Josh Allen hasn’t won a superbowl. He has been to one championship game just like Lamar Jackson.
    Lamar is a two time MVP. He has had the 1 seed two times during the Mahomes era. He has never had a dominate receiver. He scores more points and wins more in the regular season than Allen.
    The only qb that can claim hey I’m better than Lamar is Mahomes. And no one else.

    • @jametrieharris8005
      @jametrieharris8005 23 дні тому

      Crazy Josh never got the #1 seed in that stinky division.

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому +1

      He's played great and been let down by crappy defense. Lamar has been cheeks and the reason his team has lost. Not sure why you pretend to not know that.

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      ​@@jametrieharris8005Yes the 13 W seasons are crazy embarrassing. Maybe next year he can kick FGs for the Broncos and snap for the Raiders to achieve the 1seed.

    • @jametrieharris8005
      @jametrieharris8005 16 днів тому

      @@MrPhilaCuse you don’t kno ball

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 15 днів тому

      @@jametrieharris8005 Lean into that Rolodex of lame canned phrases.

  • @quadavis4
    @quadavis4 24 дні тому +19

    So basically Lamar is the only quarterback that HAS to win a SB before he’s considered better than Josh?

    • @SaeedBile
      @SaeedBile 24 дні тому +11

      Lamar was held to a higher standard since the day he was drafted so yea

    • @zachbuschman3105
      @zachbuschman3105 24 дні тому +2

      Yes. Josh is astronomically better in January. Lamar has to get over that hump. How is that even a debate?

    • @zachbuschman3105
      @zachbuschman3105 24 дні тому +2

      @@SaeedBile That’s just simply not true outside you’re own warped perception

    • @LlamaSupreme
      @LlamaSupreme 23 дні тому +6

      ​@@zachbuschman3105astronomically better in the wildcard round maybe. For a guy with an incredible reputation you'd expect beating at least one division winner in the playoffs ever. Or more than 1 AFCCG played.

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 23 дні тому +5

      It’s a double standard but it doesn’t bother me anymore because Lamar is so talented once the coaching sabotage stops happening in January of them inexcusably abandoning their gameplan, championships will ensue and all the old takes of ppl who rank ppl like Burrow and Allen ahead of him will be historically embarrassing and a great source of humor

  • @coledaniels2223
    @coledaniels2223 23 дні тому +10

    My sweet baby boy Carson, I truly cannot believe that you even thought about putting Hawk Tua over my beautiful baby boy Drake Maye

  • @lucasmiles6927
    @lucasmiles6927 24 дні тому +7

    For Mahomes, I will add this caveat for his season: HIs tackles have been so atrocious this year that they have made the offense completely dysfunctional on multiple occasions, which is something neither Lamar nor Allen have had to deal with. Also, the entire offense was built around Rashee Rice and Hollywood Brown, and both were thought to be out for the season by week 4, so the offense had to be completely restructured.

    • @uberhikari
      @uberhikari 24 дні тому +2

      The offense had to be restructured twice. After the Rashee/Hollywood injuries, KC picked up Kareem Hunt. The Chiefs then turned into a power-run game behind Thuney, Creed, and Trey Smith, and Reid started running 13 personnel with Gray, Kelce, Fortson, and Jared Wiley. But then both Fortson and Wiley had season-ending injuries so that had to be scrapped too.

    • @gavinbaskette4701
      @gavinbaskette4701 23 дні тому +3

      PFF has the chiefs O line ranked 4th this season. Mahomes’ numbers were worse when Rice was healthy. PFF also has Mahomes lower than Lamar Burrow and Allen, so it’s not just stats that show he’s been doing worse

    • @uberhikari
      @uberhikari 23 дні тому +2

      @gavinbaskette4701 PFF ranks the Chiefs' O-line 4th, yet when you watch the game, it's clear that the O-line is not nearly as good as PFF claims. That means there's something wrong with PFF's grading.
      Burrow, Allen, and Lamar didn't lose their WR 1 and WR 2. They didn't have their WR 4, 5, and 6 on IR at various points throughout the season, they didn't lose their RB1, they didn't lose their TE 3, 4, and 5, and they didn't have 4 different LTs.
      Mahomes is still the best 3rd/4th down QB, the best 4th quarter QB, the Chiefs have the best 3rd down offense by ~5 percentage points, and Mahomes has had 7 game winning drives.
      As soon as Hollywood played only 20% of the Chiefs' offensive snaps, their offense destroyed the Texans' 2nd ranked defense by DVOA.
      What PFF is measuring is not how good Mahomes has been but the Chiefs' injury decimated offense.

    • @joburke10
      @joburke10 23 дні тому

      Rasheed Rice should have been suspended this year because of his legal issues.

    • @uberhikari
      @uberhikari 23 дні тому

      @@joburke10 Wrong.

  • @dottade6797
    @dottade6797 24 дні тому +22

    Herbert over Burrow is a Joke

    • @ArchibaldHimothy
      @ArchibaldHimothy 24 дні тому +3

      Herbert’s had elite seasons without an all pro caliber receiver, and is on his way to leading a bunch of misfits to the playoffs with a very bad receiving core & run game.

    • @dottade6797
      @dottade6797 24 дні тому

      @ man eye test say He’ll no Burrow is way more of an assassin

    • @ArchibaldHimothy
      @ArchibaldHimothy 24 дні тому

      @@dottade6797 and Herbert can’t be? We literally just saw him demoralized Denver’s elite defense in the 2nd half while being injured?

    • @itsyourboy7150
      @itsyourboy7150 24 дні тому +3

      @@ArchibaldHimothywas Keenan Allen not an all pro? What about Mike will a couple years ago? Austin ekeler?!

    • @dottade6797
      @dottade6797 24 дні тому

      @@itsyourboy7150 bro he just talking

  • @jim6318
    @jim6318 22 дні тому +7

    actually lost some respect for theo with the jayden daniels convo, so clearly biased lol

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 21 день тому +2

      The Jayden and Baker digging his heels in when he was so wildly wrong is insane. At least he's finally calmed down on Trevor Lawrence whos mid.

    • @jim6318
      @jim6318 21 день тому +1

      @@vsauce4678 yeah the baker thing was wild too baker is clearly a top 20 starting QB lol. my favorite argument against jayden was that he’s scrambling at a historic rate, like yeah of course he is because he’s really good at scrambling lol

  • @erickelly271
    @erickelly271 21 день тому +2

    Idk why Theo will bring up the ravens losing because of the fumble out of the end zone while completely ignoring that the chiefs did that the literal week before against the bills and still won

  • @ronskullie9380
    @ronskullie9380 24 дні тому +9

    You rattled of,all those josh allen playoffs stats,that he's #1in the playoffs but yet he lost,so obviously some played better than him and bounced him out if the playoffs,and i think its the guy,with all the Superbowls and Superbowl mvps.

    • @Benmarkwardt1
      @Benmarkwardt1 24 дні тому +2

      They barely mentioned the guy whose 15-3 in the playoffs

    • @dylanleach5982
      @dylanleach5982 23 дні тому +3

      This is the most braindead comment I’ve ever read. You don’t understand how sports work it’s clear to everyone. How can you blame Josh for averaging 27 ppg in the playoffs. The only reason he isn’t a superbowl MVP is because his defense and coach. Wins are not a QB stat.

    • @ronskullie9380
      @ronskullie9380 23 дні тому

      @dylanleach5982 really check Mahomes Superbowl winning defence,and let me see what other excuse you'll come up with.

    • @dustinnoel8371
      @dustinnoel8371 23 дні тому

      @@ronskullie9380Josh is better than Pat. Get over it.

    • @ronskullie9380
      @ronskullie9380 23 дні тому +1

      @dustinnoel8371 this has got be most stupidest thing that anyone has said about a NFL player, Mahomes 5000 yard passing,50 TDs,2 MVPs,3 Superbowl MVPs,3 Superbowls,32,000 yards,242 TDs,show me Josh stats,and awards.

  • @bencho44
    @bencho44 20 днів тому

    Carson dropping an AJ Green mention in this qb ranking video got me dripping

  • @michaelshan22
    @michaelshan22 23 дні тому +11

    Jared Goff always seems to be a QB who is in the right system and executes it well, and that's always been the argument against him. I feel like him being in these situations isn't just a case of being blessed and lucky though.
    There's more to football than just what happens on the field, and with that I'm referring to preparation/gameplanning. Most guys assume it's Goff's coaches who do all of that, but Ben Johnson has spoken numerous times that the Lions offense is crafted through both the mind of him and Jared. QB gameplanning is the type of stuff that guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning were lauded for, and I'm not saying Goff is on the level of them as QBs but I think there's definitely an aspect to how well he prepares for games that has led to his teams always finding success. Speaking of those two guys, Goff has just recently joined them as the only 3 QBs to be part of 13-win seasons for 2 different teams. I don't think that's coincidence.

    • @GavinMurray-r8r
      @GavinMurray-r8r 20 днів тому

      Yea game planing is t just a Goff thing. You just hear about it so much cause they are the hot team rn

  • @thegods747
    @thegods747 21 день тому +1

    It’s honestly such a shame all the best QBs are in the AFC. These Super Bowl storylines would be so much crazier if it was Mahomes v Lamar in the bowl or Mahomes v Allen for the SB championship.

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      For sure. I'm probably just gonna bet the AFC every year, it's hard to see one of these guys losing to a Darnald or Goff in the big game. Though maybe they would've last yr if SF could've fielded a punt...but it takes a super team.

  • @hildenbrandt21
    @hildenbrandt21 24 дні тому +3

    What a weird stance on Baker from Theo. Like would he dock an MLB player that bats .300 and hits 40 HRs for having an ugly swing? Or a pitcher with a sub 3 ERA but has a hideous delivery? It might not look the prettiest, and he might have good people around him, but if the job gets done the job gets done. Baker just simply cant be in the 20's at this point.

  • @LLH952
    @LLH952 23 дні тому +5

    Hurts is so overhated

  • @HockeyDudeJames2
    @HockeyDudeJames2 23 дні тому +1

    Everything said about Nix is spot on. And At his age, I don't see a very high ceiling.

    • @andreamaya1689
      @andreamaya1689 21 день тому

      How does his age have anything to do with his ceiling?💀

  • @PunkerThor
    @PunkerThor 19 днів тому +1

    How is Stafford so high on all of their lists, I had completely forgotten about him.

    • @reggielewis4196
      @reggielewis4196 19 днів тому

      Watch more football he’s my number 6 too.
      Mahomes
      Allen
      Lamar
      Herbert
      Burrow
      Stafford
      Love Stroud coin flip
      Rodgers
      Baker
      Huge gap the rest is year to year. I can’t properly rank the rookies till their sophomore year.

  • @AceAlmost-m5f
    @AceAlmost-m5f 23 дні тому +7

    Lamar is #1 and it’s not even close. Lamar’s stats are historic. 120.6 passer rating. Every QB won with that stats

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 21 день тому

      As a Ravens fan and Lamar believer since Louisville. Him or Josh Allen are valid but if Lamar wins a Superbowl or gets to the Superbowl it's over. Cause statistically and tape wise him and Josh allen are playing at an All time best QB of all time level outside of like 2 Allen games and 1 Lamar game.

    • @djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853
      @djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853 21 день тому +2

      Stop kidding yourself Lamar can’t outduel the other greats throwing the ball it’s why he hasn’t won a Super Bowl and has little postseason success

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 18 днів тому

      Absolutely delusional take little Lamar fan

  • @Coconutcapris
    @Coconutcapris 19 днів тому

    Underrated pod kept me interested like the whole time usually I click off keep it up

  • @Sky-gt4fp
    @Sky-gt4fp 18 днів тому +1

    That Theo guys parents know he’s up this late? Dude looks like he’s 10

  • @sportsthedodsway
    @sportsthedodsway 20 днів тому

    Carson nailed the conversation on dak thank you

  • @Scarmcg
    @Scarmcg 24 дні тому +4

    you three need a podcast tbh

  • @pat8974
    @pat8974 10 днів тому

    good stuff

  • @codydouglas8631
    @codydouglas8631 24 дні тому +3

    Bryce being better than baker? They shoulda kicked this dude off the podcast right then and there

  • @tm7517
    @tm7517 23 дні тому +6

    I hope Lamar can win a Super Bowl that man is the best player in football.

  • @harrisonhawkinson8461
    @harrisonhawkinson8461 23 дні тому +1

    This guy just giving jayden daniels 0 credit for his season is crazy. Ranking him lower because cj stroud didnt live up to the hype is just crazy. He clearly hasnt watched the same player as me.

  • @kingkocher
    @kingkocher 22 дні тому

    Theo on Nerd Sesh is a big deal

  • @craigsup7242
    @craigsup7242 24 дні тому +5

    top 3 supprised me ngl respect it tho

  • @SymeloMusic0
    @SymeloMusic0 24 дні тому

    oh baby ive been waiting for this one

  • @vsauce4678
    @vsauce4678 21 день тому

    Theo Baker being a 17-12th best QB in the leaugue while suffeirng under 2 good coaches and 5 awful coaches is a complement to Bakers ability not a negative. Baker isnt a world beater but hes well on the path to maybe one day ascend to a Jared Goff top 7 QB. But Baker is clearly a top 16 qb this year.

  • @JosiahAlanKnor
    @JosiahAlanKnor 19 днів тому +1

    I think it’s kinda crazy to put Caleb over Bryce right now. Will he probably end up being better? Yes. Is he playing better right now? Absolutely not. Bryce is accurate and has led multiple game winning drives and has put up good numbers against top teams. You guys said you were rating on right now and not potential and I can’t imagine anyone saying that Bryce is having a worse season when he’s been better in pretty much any way.

    • @julian9000q
      @julian9000q 17 днів тому

      They had anthony richardson above him bro

  • @kingofrohan888
    @kingofrohan888 23 дні тому +1

    These nerds hate Purdy and just glaze Shanahan, putting him at 20 is insane

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 23 дні тому

      15 would be fair just because he has some athleticism.

  • @quadavis4
    @quadavis4 24 дні тому +6

    Mahomes is the only Qb that shouldn’t get his playoff resume brought up, why is Lamar the only 1 held to his when we all just admitted last year could’ve went completely different if they ran more and Flowers doesn’t fumble. It was Harbrough fault last year

    • @uberhikari
      @uberhikari 24 дні тому +1

      Bro, part of the reason why the Ravens lost that game is because Lamar threw a pass into triple coverage and it got intercepted in the end zone. People remember the Zay Flowers fumble but people conveniently forget the interception Lamar threw.

    • @quadavis4
      @quadavis4 24 дні тому +2

      1 interception the only bad play Lamar actually had last year. If harbough doesn’t forget they have the best running offense the past 6 years and Zay doesn’t fumble we would’ve beat the chiefs last year atleast

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      Weird that the complaint is they threw too much with an MVP QB. I'd think that'd be a good thing.

  • @PrincipalSkinner3190
    @PrincipalSkinner3190 24 дні тому +8

    Y'all look 30 years old combined 😂

  • @Brizzbane
    @Brizzbane 17 днів тому +2

    Theo your take lock on Baker won’t make him play poorly all of a sudden. He’s a great quarterback, sorry that’s hard for you to admit.

  • @TheNoemad
    @TheNoemad 20 днів тому +2

    Dak at 17 and Baker at 10 is racist idc

  • @nrgmanifest
    @nrgmanifest 22 дні тому

    There was a time when Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers all played together ya know... that's like 12 SBs between just those GOATs with ofc Brady leading the pack... And before them Montana, Young, Favre, and Elway...

  • @jackfrazier3044
    @jackfrazier3044 14 днів тому +1

    Thank god these guys don’t run nfl front offices lmao

  • @blondvampire165
    @blondvampire165 23 дні тому

    I will say, the “it’s hard to separate Sam Darnold from JJ” comment felt superficial. Like, if you really dive into it, Sam Darnolds had the Jets and Carolina most of his career. How has Arod done in NY? How many recent QBs were good for the Panthers? Also, Love got to sit for 3 years and Mahomes sat his first. How does that affect players? And that doesn’t even touch on Mahomes having Andy Reid vs Joe Burrow carrying a Zach Taylor led team. They didn’t preface the criteria enough

  • @jeremyt7409
    @jeremyt7409 24 дні тому +1

    Also, why did you consider some people's supporting cast but not others, how can he downplay Jayden, who has a pretty bad supporting cast right now, but then praise darnold, who has mad weapons. Yes he is playing well, but look at his weapons.

  • @gssalternatehistory
    @gssalternatehistory 23 дні тому

    How tf is Bo nix so low here lmao he led a bad to decent broncos roster to a good record, insane takes

  • @skyruda4708
    @skyruda4708 24 дні тому +3

    Y'all lost me debating Bryce and AR over Nix.

    • @ericharrison813
      @ericharrison813 24 дні тому +1

      Take Sean Payton out of it and both ar n Bryce r clearly better. Sean is elite at using a QBs strengths n hiding their weaknesses. If Bryce young was a bronco that team would be substantially better on offense.

    • @skyruda4708
      @skyruda4708 23 дні тому

      @@ericharrison813 Bo is a much better QB than Bryce Young lmao

    • @HockeyDudeJames2
      @HockeyDudeJames2 23 дні тому

      ​@@skyruda4708much better is a bit strong.

    • @hhalford6057
      @hhalford6057 22 дні тому +1

      @@skyruda4708 check down merchant they’re saying

    • @skyruda4708
      @skyruda4708 22 дні тому

      @@hhalford6057 AR can't throw a checkdown lmao

  • @SneakerGod22
    @SneakerGod22 24 дні тому +2

    Wow I knew you guys are were haters but this is a hater masterclass lol.

  • @Trickabizzatch
    @Trickabizzatch 20 днів тому +2

    This is laughable at best. Yall need to start introducing stats into the narrative to help formulate your rankings, because all this showed was bad memory of games.🤣

  • @Mindag13
    @Mindag13 24 дні тому +3

    Lamar is #1

  • @CjH02222
    @CjH02222 23 дні тому +1

    Hurts and Daniels are both grossly underrated on this list imo

  • @dooners4274
    @dooners4274 20 днів тому +1

    Sam darnold compared to Jared goff is a joke Goff been playing high level for a while

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 23 дні тому

    Where do they have Rodgers?
    Cant find timestamps

    • @Rhemmy09
      @Rhemmy09 23 дні тому

      Theo has him at 17
      Logan has him at 25
      The other guy i think 22 or 21 not too sure

  • @Saintsfan.
    @Saintsfan. 20 днів тому +1

    Bo Nix way better than these guys say like Bo has no help on offense and doing good and he’s faster and stronger than all the Rookie QBS 20MPH and obviously stronger and best accuracy just needs help

  • @graysonschutzman4853
    @graysonschutzman4853 23 дні тому

    I had to turn it off at the baker take that was basically " I think baker is bad despite all evidence and logic"

  • @tm7517
    @tm7517 23 дні тому +1

    These guys all believe Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, Kyler Murray are better than Jalen Hurts. lol. I’m not even a Jalen fan.
    I think there are four qb’s unquestionably better.
    Then I think there is a bunch Herbert, Stafford, Goff, Stroud, Love, and Hurts. I don’t think hurts is the worst player out of those players.

    • @Rhemmy09
      @Rhemmy09 23 дні тому +1

      The fact that you think Hurts has an argument to better than stafford or herbert shows you’re an idiot. FYI the bottom guys you listed are all better than hurts 😂

    • @poppatato4183
      @poppatato4183 22 дні тому

      The Rams SB offense was just as good if not worse than the 2022 Eagles with a better offensive coach, if Staffords so much better hows that the case?

  • @drittzz9245
    @drittzz9245 16 днів тому

    Baker is easily top 5-10
    39 passing tds
    3 rushing tds
    70% completion percentage
    2nd in 3rd down conversions
    *Hasn't had his wr1 since week 8 and Mike was out 4 weeks*
    🏴‍☠️

  • @thenorthernlowlight
    @thenorthernlowlight 14 днів тому

    All credibility for this show goes downthe drain not having Mahomes 1. Hrs proven time and time again to separate himself from everyone else and hasn't lost the separation. There is no real argument for anyone else.

  • @hunterepsi
    @hunterepsi 23 дні тому +1

    My three pookie bears all in one episode?

  • @grantnapier4153
    @grantnapier4153 17 днів тому +1

    Purdy is not top 10 but to say he is still throwing to an allstar cast is absurd. Deebo sucks now, Aiyuk not playing and was not catching the ball when he was. No CMC and Mason doesn't catch out of the backfield. Kittle is a baller though. Plus the Niner line is really really really bad without Trent Williams.
    Again, not top 10 but Brock has awful help at this point.

  • @paulschlacter4388
    @paulschlacter4388 23 дні тому

    Josh Allens numbers sure look good against skylar thompson, kenny pickett, mac jones, colts phillip rivers

    • @jensencarrick9652
      @jensencarrick9652 22 дні тому +5

      Didn’t know qbs played defense

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      ​@@jensencarrick9652Lol do these clowns think "nailed it" when hitting send? I think every one of those teams except Miami had a top 10 defense.

    • @MrPhilaCuse
      @MrPhilaCuse 16 днів тому

      Three of those teams had a top 10 defense. Nice self own 😂

  • @nickellemsperformance2075
    @nickellemsperformance2075 24 дні тому

    Quality chat

  • @mendelspalter282
    @mendelspalter282 24 дні тому +5

    Once this guy mentioned the 5 pick game from Goff, I checked out. This is supposed to be nuanced, but if you call that a 5 pick game then you’re basically just looking at box scores.

    • @dooners4274
      @dooners4274 20 днів тому +1

      He had 2 bad games all year and had been excellent the rest. He’s top 5 these dudes are goof balls cj stroud is top 10 what??????? Jordan love playing better than Goff and Sam darnold hahhhaha

    • @Domcreator
      @Domcreator 17 днів тому

      Yup. If you actually watched the game Goff didn’t have 5 picks. He arguably had one

  • @azjace
    @azjace 24 дні тому +5

    Kyler Murray is way too high. You guys must have not watched this guy play after week 8 of every season.

    • @Benmarkwardt1
      @Benmarkwardt1 24 дні тому +3

      Great take, I’m actually so done with the Kyler hype train

  • @TDR-0484
    @TDR-0484 20 днів тому

    Not having Mahomes #1 invalidates this list

  • @sportsthedodsway
    @sportsthedodsway 20 днів тому +1

    Baker at 9 but dak at 16 where's the logic there

    • @lebronjames4310
      @lebronjames4310 17 днів тому

      67 tds last 2 year in the regular season most in the league and he led the league in pass tds in the playoffs last year

    • @0Iicht
      @0Iicht 12 днів тому

      @@lebronjames4310this is not sufficient enough to make that case lmao I’ll take the one with an All pro nod and MVP votes

  • @TDR-0484
    @TDR-0484 20 днів тому

    TIMESTAMPS PLEASE

  • @karbasher
    @karbasher 24 дні тому +3

    my three goats in one video

  • @icertifiedjosh6488
    @icertifiedjosh6488 20 днів тому

    Anyone know where they have Drake Maye?

  • @veggiesesh
    @veggiesesh 22 дні тому

    About 30 seconds dedicated to Mahomes lmao and fair what more can you say about him that hasn’t been said

  • @jalemjones
    @jalemjones 24 дні тому +15

    I’m gonna guess Josh Allen is over Lamar and I haven’t even watched I’ll confirm later 😂

    • @Imoc1735
      @Imoc1735 24 дні тому +12

      Well that‘s not exactly a hot take.

    • @Marcus0Valdez
      @Marcus0Valdez 24 дні тому +10

      Correct take

    • @jalemjones
      @jalemjones 24 дні тому +6

      @@Imoc1735 this season i don’t think he’s been playing the qb position better then Lamar or joey b but what do i know lol I don’t have a podcast

    • @NemoRackkz
      @NemoRackkz 24 дні тому

      @@Marcus0Valdez Allen has just as many Total tds and Lamar has passing Tdsz.
      Now explain how Allen is better?

    • @truthbearer7891
      @truthbearer7891 24 дні тому +5

      All QB rankings will sort themselves out over the next 6 weeks. If Lamar breaks through this postseason ppl will have no choice but to give up the Burrow or Allen over Lamar takes to maintain credibility. Takes that will also be historically embarrassing if he breaks through because it sets up Lamar to go on absolute tear of winning multiple MVPs which combined with a couple of rings could make him first ever QB with 3 MVPs and 2 Super Bowl MVPs before 30 and the first QB period to win 4 MVPs and 2 Super Bowl MVPs or 4 All Pros.

  • @foundationsyth9825
    @foundationsyth9825 23 дні тому

    Whoever this guy is, get him out of here. Never speak bad on the Bake Show. Dude is a stud

  • @sincerlykentrell9316
    @sincerlykentrell9316 24 дні тому

    Lfgggg been waiting for this

  • @GavinMurray-r8r
    @GavinMurray-r8r 20 днів тому +1

    44:39 cares gunna injure the whole rec core

  • @gavinbaskette4701
    @gavinbaskette4701 2 дні тому

    Theo really gonna die on his Herbert>Burrow hill

  • @BAS9713
    @BAS9713 20 днів тому

    Theo can't ever admit when he's wrong. It's infuriating

  • @jacobhur7939
    @jacobhur7939 23 дні тому

    Yall lost me with Jayden daniels getting absolutely no credit for this season

  • @zu2090
    @zu2090 21 день тому

    insane screenshot at 51:31

  • @quadavis4
    @quadavis4 24 дні тому +2

    Josh Allen 9/30 vs the Ravens this year also…

    • @dylanleach5982
      @dylanleach5982 23 дні тому +3

      The ravens average 16 ppg in the playoffs with Lamar. The Bills average 27 ppg in the playoffs with Allen. The chiefs average 30ppg with Mahomes.

    • @SirChadwick84
      @SirChadwick84 23 дні тому +1

      16/29. You're referencing the game at Houston.

    • @jametrieharris8005
      @jametrieharris8005 23 дні тому +1

      @@dylanleach5982when Andy Reid retires mahomes is cooked . And please name the “starting “ QBs that Josh buy up these godly stats against?

    • @dylanleach5982
      @dylanleach5982 22 дні тому +2

      @ why does it matter what QBs he played? Like that makes no sense QBs don’t play defense idk if you knew that but you should ask what defenses he played. Last years Steelers and chiefs elite D 2021 pats and cheifs elite Defenses like what has Lamar done lol

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 18 днів тому +1

      @@jametrieharris8005Allen plays against the defense not QB? And Allen has amazing stats against the Chiefs in the playoffs

  • @vsauce4678
    @vsauce4678 21 день тому

    1 Allen 2 Lamar 3 Mahomes 4 Burrow 5 Herbert 6 love 7 stafford 8 Jayden 9 Darnold 10 Baker 11 Hurts 12 Geno 13 Russ 14 Kyler 15 Dak 16 Cj Stroud 17 Bryce Young 18 Drake Maye 19 calleb william 20 Purdy 21 Trevor Lawrence 22 Rodgers this is for QB level right now.

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 21 день тому

      Idk I could flip Mahomes and Burrow honestly. burrows been a killer than Mahomes the last year and a half.

    • @vsauce4678
      @vsauce4678 21 день тому

      Lamar if he wins a AFC Championship moves up to a top 5 QB ever and passes Josh Allen

    • @thenorthernlowlight
      @thenorthernlowlight 14 днів тому

      You must be hella bored to actually think Mahomes isn't a top 2 qb in the NFL. After 4 the list is pretty good but Mahomes below 1 is just dishonestly

    • @dooners4274
      @dooners4274 14 днів тому

      @@vsauce4678 Jordan love fucking sucks lmao

    • @0Iicht
      @0Iicht 12 днів тому

      Your 15th rank was literally an all pro last season what are we doing

  • @GavinMurray-r8r
    @GavinMurray-r8r 20 днів тому

    Buddy we are judging you for having baker at 8. Nothing wise 2:15:14

  • @truthbearer7891
    @truthbearer7891 23 дні тому

    Again way more disrespect of the ceiling of Penix Jr. Saying his ceiling is Tua is laughable. No he’s not a freak athlete but last time I checked neither is Joe Burrow who everyone has as top 3 QB. Penix Jr is literally a more physically gifted version of what you think Burrow is with sub 4.6 speed. And I say what you think he is because Burrow would go down several spots without Chase/Higgins. Penix Jr won’t even need weapons that good to lead team to top 5 offense. Hes one of the best processors ever and one of best ever QBs at sack avoidance in pocket.
    He’s going to be best QB in the NFC by next year and top 2-3 in the entire league by 2026.

  • @thogro99
    @thogro99 22 дні тому +2

    Hurts can't win with the way you judge QB's. Same goes for Goff and Herbert tbh.
    Hurts could win 3 super bowls and still you would leave him out of the top 10 because the team is good. I guess the NFL only has talent in Philadelphia and Detroit nowadays...

  • @WheresWaldo05
    @WheresWaldo05 24 дні тому

    The hype on Geno on every podcast is insane. Dudes yearly stats are laughably bad in a pass happy league. Only has 20 td's. Only got to 30 last year. Keep in mind we now play 17 game seasons. If you do not get convincingly pass 30 on a season you are not a good qb.

  • @santiagogalindo4201
    @santiagogalindo4201 19 днів тому

    That Theo loves herbert lol and criticize joe for that playoff run when his guy lost a 27 to 3 lead lol

  • @Marcus0Valdez
    @Marcus0Valdez 24 дні тому

    Popcorn is out

  • @dooners4274
    @dooners4274 20 днів тому +2

    Jared Goff top 5 y’all don’t watch ball.

    • @thenorthernlowlight
      @thenorthernlowlight 14 днів тому

      It's more that they do watch that's why he's not lol

    • @dooners4274
      @dooners4274 14 днів тому

      @ you haven’t watched many lions game this year he’s been surgical

    • @thenorthernlowlight
      @thenorthernlowlight 14 днів тому

      @ so could a lot of people with that situation I've watched almost everyone of their games

    • @dooners4274
      @dooners4274 14 днів тому

      @@thenorthernlowlight yeah that’s bot activity “a lot.” So funny with this guy with every other quarterback this never comes up. Dude has led top5 offenses on multiple teams. Nobody said he was the best but to deny he playing top 5 football is nonsense. There is no one better throwing in the middle of the field and running a offense. Put on the all 22 film and stop watching espn shows that have narratives. Much more to playing a quarterback position than making the “splash” plays. It’s about being a coach on the field checking into the right play. To think an offensive coordinator makes the checks at line of scrimmage is stupid. He’s a very experienced qb that relies on his intelligence and accuracy. The best coaches have the best players… You also name me a good team that doesn’t have a decent o line and weapons. You cant

    • @dooners4274
      @dooners4274 14 днів тому

      @@thenorthernlowlight he’s also only turned the football over in 5/16 games this season. If it wasn’t for his Houston game his numbers are 34-5 td/turnovers.

  • @SovietBaconPig
    @SovietBaconPig 20 днів тому

    Herbert over Burrow

  • @veggiesesh
    @veggiesesh 23 дні тому

    Theo has baker ranked low because “he looks funny in the pocket” lmao who cares if he still slings it

  • @anon4691
    @anon4691 23 дні тому

    why is theo fucking beautiful

  • @GetInVan
    @GetInVan 24 дні тому +1

    Nerd Sesh x Theo Ash??? I thought this was UA-cam, not Rule34!!!!

  • @spencergravatt3172
    @spencergravatt3172 21 день тому

    I barely want to watch a 3 hour movie from my favorite director why would yall make a 3 hour video on your unqualified opinions

  • @PaulSmith-xc7vt
    @PaulSmith-xc7vt 24 дні тому

    Mahomes number 1. Playoffs mean everything.

    • @Rhemmy09
      @Rhemmy09 23 дні тому

      Hasn’t been number 1 this season

    • @ethanial3671
      @ethanial3671 23 дні тому

      @@Rhemmy09yeah but once the playoffs start everybody knows who is the best player in the league even if he hasn’t had the #1 regular season. Happened last year too

  • @SovietBaconPig
    @SovietBaconPig 20 днів тому

    Herbert > Burrow