Clara's "people like me and you" and "there's something I need to say" always reminded me of 10 and Rose's (first) goodbye on Bad Wolf Bay. It's never *said*, but we know.
Makayla Thee I agree! I also enjoy the fact that this “me and you” has become kind of like a running theme for many of “ClaraxDoctor” stories. As Moffat doesn’t explicitly want to state the depths of Clara and the Doctor’s relationship, he sometimes does it via other couples. Like that old married couple in Face the Raven, or the couple in Hide, or the one in Under the Lake/Before the Flood. Similarly, I also love Clara’s “everything you’re about to say, I already know”, because it’s such a beautifully articulated way of stating SHE KNOWS, and in a way, for the audience who’s actually paid attention to their interactions, she’s speaking for all of us as well, because WE KNOW too, and all of this goes without actually saying anything. There’s beauty about the unspoken. Because of Peter and Jenna’s acting, we see it even though it’s mostly subtext, they’re the ones who made this electric chemistry possible. Everyone knows yet not a single confirmation is uttered. It’s romantic. It’s desperate. It causes friction between the fans because there’s always plausible deniability. It’s all between the lines.
@@hamper22 I don't think anyone denies they love each other, it's that it's not romantic. Platonic love can be stronger than romantic so it doesn't diminish it.
@@littleripper312it wasn't platonic!😅 When she's talking to Danny, that "I love you" was for the Dr, not Danny. Jenna confirmed it. And well there's always hints like Capaldi's jealousy over Danny over and over again and Clara's hint of knowing. When Capaldi said, I'm not your boyfriend than flirt, Clara knew exactly what he meant. She didn't use her usual sarcasm to mock the Dr. Yeah, it's completely natural, platonic- just friends!😅 Of course they couldn't act as lovers. The actor playing the Dr is a living human and couldn't fathom the fact that Jenna is way too younger than him. It's Capaldi's choice. Neither Dr's, nor Moffats. That must have been a sense of relief for a lot of viewers and a source of our amusement! Why would we have watched Dr who if it's bind by conventional system of humans!
I believe he loves all of his companions so much, but there is distinctly a companion that "defines" each Doctor, I think, in a way. Rose was 9's. Donna was 10's (Sorry Martha!). Amy was 11's. Finally, Clara is definitely 12's companion. And 12 is his Doctor.
what the hell is with you and those endings?! damn you, I can never watch your videos without feeling like someone drove a hole in my chest. you make me miss them even more than I already do, but I love this kind of pain. as always, you amaze me with your scenes and voiceovers choice, you just keep finding interesting ways to connect those quotes. at first i didn't like the relationship between clara and twelve, but i grow to love them way more than clara and eleven. their love story (yeah, it's nothing less to me) was so beautiful and tragic and if you think about it, she kept dying to save the doctor as the impossible girl and then the twelfth doctor basically died billion of times just to save her as well, how can someone even argue, that they weren't in love?
Thank you so much, this is a wonderful comment and it means so much to me! :) I know right, it's beautiful that they died countless times to save the other. :')
I love this video. It's so emotional. I love the fact that you included their personalities and obstacles in their relationship as it wasn't always easy and sweet as many videos show. It makes this video even deeper and more real. Love is not hugs and kisses. It's about how much you care for the other person despite problems, how much you would do for him or her... Their devotion is perfectly captured here. Well done! Thank you for this gorgeous video. Best wishes!
Ah, this comment is beautiful. I like that you said you want to be the one that does the loving, and didn't say "I hope one day I'm loved this much by someone." Which is also fine, because that might've been something I could easily say, but what you just said is very selfless. It makes me believe that one day you will indeed love someone and equally be loved this much :) all the best.
I have been emotionally moved by many video creations focusing on 12 and Clara but I think this is the ulitmate. I feel sorry for those who are unable to see the special bond these two had. None of the conventional stuff but something more, something greater. They had a bond that in the end had to be broken for it was so strong. I think the way their relationship was developed and how it culminated was beautifully written as well as acted and to be able to show to those with emotional intelligence that love can take so many forms and that just because one is unconventional doesn't necessarily make it unethical or 'wrong'. Yes there is romantic love, parental love, etc etc but there are others too that have such a greater purity that cannot be defined in words. Thank you for making such heart warming videos.
That was so brilliant! The whole video was perfect, but the end, leaving it on that line, after the bit she said to Danny!! There are no words. Thank you
This video is beautiful !!! For me i feel like no companion is gonna ever replace clara in twelve's heart they are forever together and i really hope twelve remembers clara in the next series
I hope so too! And I agree, as much as I look forward to meeting Bill, she has a tough role, coming after Clara. In my heart Twelve is Clara's Doctor. And Clara is Twelve's companion.
Actually they have three heart. Two hearts of the Doctor and one Clara's. I think this video is one of the most beautiful and emotional what I've ever watched. I never stop missing Whouffaldi.
oh god i felt chills right when i heard the first notes, the song is amazing. Ugh i hate it that we live in different zones, I can never be the first to comment on your total amazingness and extraordinary way of editing the right clips with music to the dialogue.. "who maintain's your heart?" "i think she was called Clara Oswald." CRIES FOR LIFE. that was amazing parallel.
My favorite woman, thank you so much! I loved the song too, it's such a beautiful melody isn't it? I especially love how simple and rhythmic it is :) It's okay, I posted it in a wrong time, when most of the world is sleeping! But I got too excited and couldn't resist :p
I think I lest a comment here before, but I have to write again, this is literally the best video i have watched about them being the hybrid, being connected, being almost the same person amd being very, very much in love. That ending brutally murdered me, now its absolutely canon that she thought that in that little pause, I wont be able to think anything else in my rewatches. Your talentttttt damn itttt
I love watching these. Like I love them they are amazing. :) I mean it. Clara and the doctor I loved them. And I'm honestly crying. This is so perfect in every way
Okay i rewatched it, i am calmer. This is really really beautiful, there are no words. You are incredible, with every new video you outdo yourself. Thank you for all the feels.
This is probably my favourite one out of all the Doctor + Clara videos you've made. I think my favourties playlist is 3/4 just your videos xD. The Doctor and Clara were my favourite team
FIrst, Donna was washed away her memories of the doctor now, its The Doctor's memories of Clara that are slowly turning into a wonderful story of the impossible girl... well done on this video :D
Just re-watched hell bent then came back here for more crying :)))) I'm so fine right now, I can't get over my love for then ending, I feel like she knew she had to break her promise to Danny because it wasn't fair that she never got to say those words to the doctor. And I felt like she knew it was time to say it because after discovering the doctor spent four and a half billion years punching through diamond rocks and dying over and over again just to save her like, you don't do that for just anyone. So in a way I feel like she knows it's finally safe to say it, she knows the doctor undoubtedly loves her and won't say it, so she does
I agree completely, but I think there's also another layer underneath it all. I think even when Danny was around, Clara always knew (at least thought she knew) how much the Doctor loved her. I mean, he's offering her all of time and space even after she betrayed everything he ever stood for. She knew he cared THAT much. In Face the Raven, she stops him from admitting his love to her, saying "everything you're about to say, I already know". So I think in that point in time, the reason she couldn't say "I love you" until the cloisters is not because she doesn't trust the Doctor enough/or because she doesn't think he loves her so deeply. I think there was something else going on there as well. (Of course, Clara was utterly shocked when she found out about the 4.5 billion years, which changes her perspective completely, because that amount is actually inhumane, and I still can't fathom it to this day) I'm explaining what I think is the main reason in the next comment.
I think Clara always felt a mix of guilt and grief over Danny, because she didn't love him as she should have. I always felt sad for Danny, because the woman she loved was not really reciprocating, was she? Oh I could talk about even Danny x Clara for hours, but I'm just gonna get to the point. We should just remember that "I'm never gonna say (I love you) again not to anybody else, ever." were Clara's final words to Danny, before he was hit by the car. I mean, just think of the baggage that last sentence holds, for the audience it's just utterly tragic, but for Clara herself, who FINALLY made her decision between Danny and the Doctor, who FINALLY gives Danny the love he always deserved, and wanted to spend the rest of her life with him, has her world crush upon her once again. I think she doesn't hold onto those last words because of how much she "loved" Danny, but because she felt it was the only way she could pay homage to someone she treated unfairly. I think she thought, (cont)
I think she thought "at least, let me give him that". Which basically led to another guilt-led action of hers, which is bargaining for Danny's life. These actions are not pure love, they're pure guilt. Like the Doctor said "without the capacity for pain, we can't feel the hurt that we inflict". And Clara knows how much she's hurt Danny. Of course, all of those promises shatter once again in the Cloisters. Because 4.5 billion years revelation is something bigger than Clara Oswald paying homage to Danny Pink. Because this time, if she didn't say those words to the Doctor, after everything he's done, it wouldn't be fair to HIM, not Danny. And Clara can't bear to treat anyone like that once again.
Thank you! And I'm so glad that you value my opinions about the series! Well, here is my opinion: I've been a fan for a long, long time, so when Clara was introduced, I really liked the Impossible Girl arc. It was a real mystery to me. It wasn't like, let's say I binge-watched Series 7b a few years later, I saw Clara's character and mystery evolving week to week, and I remember distinctly being excited to see the trailer of Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, because Eleven was questioning Clara! And obviously there was the big 50th Special coming up, and I kinda "forgave" Moffat for not giving Clara that much character development. She was supposed to be a mystery, after all! And this is why I never understood why people were so quick to judge Clara in Series 7b. So a few years ago, my answer to this question would be: "I love them and their chemistry so much!" But times have changed, and a few years have passed. The Christmas Special came, and then Twelve came on board. (Continued)
The fact that Twelve seemed so cold to everyone, almost "heartless", made me question the show. Because my favorite quote in the entire series was Eleven's: "900 years of time and space and I've never met someone who wasn't important". And here we had Twelve, calling everyone pudding brains and making fun of people dying (Into the Dalek). You're probably wondering where I'm going with this, so I'll make sure I don't drift off. I can talk about this forever :p All of these sudden changes made me re-check Eleven's era. I watched The Girl Who Waited, where he was literally THE DEVIL, and I realized, Eleven seems like a cinnamon roll who can actually be a mean, mean time lord. Going with this comparison, Twelve was the supposed "mean, mean time lord" who was actually a cinnamon roll. So that totally switched my perspective on Clara's chemistry and story with these two regenerations. Why? Because I started to notice that Eleven treated Clara like a mystery, not even a human being. (Cont)
Even after Clara jumped on the time stream, when she didn't even know who she was, Eleven could've said "I'm so proud of you, Clara, you're Clara Oswald, child of Ellie, you went through so much, thank you" but all he said was "You're my impossible girl". To be honest, I don't like the perspective that all companions had to be SOMETHING for the Doctor. I didn't like that the Doctor was seen like a God, that he was ice and fire and rage. Of course he's good, but the companions are also important right? I didn't like that Clara was "BORN TO SAVE THE DOCTOR". Nope. Clara was born to be the beautiful Clara Oswald! River Song was not born to kill the Doctor. Amy Pond shouldn't have been the girl who waited. Her whole life. Even though she did, in my opinion she shouldn't have been labeled through her connections to the Doctor. I mean she was just.. The wonderful Amy Pond. After I started to see these things, I was like, Damn Moffat. (Cont)
The final straw came when Eleven left Clara TWICE in tTotD. He didn't value her opinions on her OWN life. He could have cared about her, yes, but Clara said herself, that no matter what, she wanted to be with the Doctor. As you can see, I have a rage for Eleven that I still to this day can not quite recover from. Eleven and Clara were cute, Matt and Jenna certainly were, and Whouffle was a love story. I believe that 100%. It was canon that Clara at least, was besotted with Eleven. But no matter how cute they were, it couldn't even compare to Clara's CHARACTER development and the epic love story of Clara and Twelve. These are just my opinions, obviously. And I freakin' love Eleven too. He used to be my fav Doctor until the Series 8 finale, when I finally admitted to myself, okay, I think I love this grumpy old man (12) more than anything in the world.
Oh and one last thing, if you watch the beginning of my video "Human", I made a very distinct comparison of how 11 treated Clara vs how 12 treated Clara. And like I told you, after Matt's Christmas Special, I thought that after everything Clara's done for the Doctor, it would only be fair that 12 kissed the ground Clara walked on, and damn he did.
I love that you found this quote and used it to its full heartbreaking potential. How did you do this? This hits all the heartstrings all at once. It's the perfect narrative of the hybrid in under three minutes! *I bow, applaud, take notes, reblog, share, cry, and repeat*
Thank you so much! You can find the unscored audios in youtube, just search "doctor who unscored" Or you can download (torrent) doctor who episodes but make sure they have 6 separate audio channels, so you can separate them with your audio software :) feel free to contact me if you need help
JCF Productions i actually have such a grudge against people who deny the mutual love and respect between twelve and clara simply because of the age difference between the actors
Another awesome video! Do you take music requests? Would love a Whouffaldi video to "Evermore" by Josh Groban. Fell hard for Twelve/Clara. Keep up the great work!
I really want to know what Clara told him!!!! Our only clue is Clara's theme song. Can Moffat make a short or something? It will bother me so much not knowing what she said. Maybe someone can compose lyrics or decrypt the song. This is one of those things that Doctor who will never reveal to us, like how they keep the Doctor's name a secret.
You know what she told him 😉 On a deeper note though - At the end of the episode Hell Bent, the Doctor starts playing Clara’s theme on the guitar. Hearing this, Clara tells the Doctor that memories become stories when we forget them, and that maybe some of them become songs. That is indeed Clara’s song, Clara’s story, that the Doctor plays. This is the same song that rang in the Cloisters. Clara’s theme is again played by 12, when Bill and her lover lock eyes for the first time - falling in love. The Doctor has said in Series 9 and I quote: “you lot, you’re bananas about relationships: you always write songs about them all, or going to war, or getting tattooed”. They have done all three of these things.. The Doctor has also played Pretty Woman for Clara - the first song we saw him play for her. Clara’s theme is the last song he played for her. Moffat loves to tie the sad ends with the happy beginnings. I’ve heard Clara’s theme on screen so far only throughout two kinds of scenes: either Clara is being cute/cool, or Clara is talking about something very deep/heroic. Pretty Woman is very similar, thematically, to the first type of scenario in which they play Clara’s theme. The Guitar version the Doctor plays belongs to the second scenario.
The 12th Doctor loves Clara so much. Unfortunately, I've never seen a man love a woman like that. However, I've seen fathers love their daughters more than their own lives. So, the question is: even though I ADORE the idea of a 12th Doctor/Clara romance, isn't it more a father-daughter relationship? No man would fight in his eternal torture chamber for 4.5 billion years for a woman, but a father can, for his child...
Clara's "people like me and you" and "there's something I need to say" always reminded me of 10 and Rose's (first) goodbye on Bad Wolf Bay. It's never *said*, but we know.
Makayla Thee I agree! I also enjoy the fact that this “me and you” has become kind of like a running theme for many of “ClaraxDoctor” stories. As Moffat doesn’t explicitly want to state the depths of Clara and the Doctor’s relationship, he sometimes does it via other couples. Like that old married couple in Face the Raven, or the couple in Hide, or the one in Under the Lake/Before the Flood.
Similarly, I also love Clara’s “everything you’re about to say, I already know”, because it’s such a beautifully articulated way of stating SHE KNOWS, and in a way, for the audience who’s actually paid attention to their interactions, she’s speaking for all of us as well, because WE KNOW too, and all of this goes without actually saying anything. There’s beauty about the unspoken. Because of Peter and Jenna’s acting, we see it even though it’s mostly subtext, they’re the ones who made this electric chemistry possible. Everyone knows yet not a single confirmation is uttered. It’s romantic. It’s desperate. It causes friction between the fans because there’s always plausible deniability. It’s all between the lines.
@@JCFProductions I still don't understand how people can not see the love between them.
@@hamper22 I don't think anyone denies they love each other, it's that it's not romantic. Platonic love can be stronger than romantic so it doesn't diminish it.
@@JCFProductions tienes razon en lo que mencionas. Hermoso y triste a la vez
@@littleripper312it wasn't platonic!😅
When she's talking to Danny, that "I love you" was for the Dr, not Danny. Jenna confirmed it. And well there's always hints like Capaldi's jealousy over Danny over and over again and Clara's hint of knowing. When Capaldi said, I'm not your boyfriend than flirt, Clara knew exactly what he meant. She didn't use her usual sarcasm to mock the Dr.
Yeah, it's completely natural, platonic- just friends!😅
Of course they couldn't act as lovers. The actor playing the Dr is a living human and couldn't fathom the fact that Jenna is way too younger than him. It's Capaldi's choice. Neither Dr's, nor Moffats.
That must have been a sense of relief for a lot of viewers and a source of our amusement! Why would we have watched Dr who if it's bind by conventional system of humans!
They were literally dying for each other. Several times...
I really think that Clara and the Doctor had the closest relationship than any other of his companions.
I believe he loves all of his companions so much, but there is distinctly a companion that "defines" each Doctor, I think, in a way. Rose was 9's. Donna was 10's (Sorry Martha!). Amy was 11's. Finally, Clara is definitely 12's companion. And 12 is his Doctor.
Well, you can consider Clara and the Eleventh to be a pair.
Jarrett Hatt True but I think that Amy always had that special place with the 11th doctor because she was the first face his face saw.
Ah, that was the Tenth Doctor, not the Eleventh.
Jarrett Hatt no shit. This is one of the most passionate relationships of all media of course 12 and Clara are the closest in dw! They were mental.
he may have two hearts but one of them beats on for Clara Oswald
No words, such perfection.
Thank you!
what the hell is with you and those endings?!
damn you, I can never watch your videos without feeling like someone drove a hole in my chest. you make me miss them even more than I already do, but I love this kind of pain. as always, you amaze me with your scenes and voiceovers choice, you just keep finding interesting ways to connect those quotes.
at first i didn't like the relationship between clara and twelve, but i grow to love them way more than clara and eleven. their love story (yeah, it's nothing less to me) was so beautiful and tragic and if you think about it, she kept dying to save the doctor as the impossible girl and then the twelfth doctor basically died billion of times just to save her as well, how can someone even argue, that they weren't in love?
Thank you so much, this is a wonderful comment and it means so much to me! :)
I know right, it's beautiful that they died countless times to save the other. :')
I just saw this and it's already my favourite.
Thank you!
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after 5 years this video still one of the best
I love this video. It's so emotional. I love the fact that you included their personalities and obstacles in their relationship as it wasn't always easy and sweet as many videos show. It makes this video even deeper and more real. Love is not hugs and kisses. It's about how much you care for the other person despite problems, how much you would do for him or her... Their devotion is perfectly captured here. Well done! Thank you for this gorgeous video. Best wishes!
Best wishes to you too, thanks for your beautiful analysis :) love you
Someday I want to love someone that much. Well done.
Ah, this comment is beautiful. I like that you said you want to be the one that does the loving, and didn't say "I hope one day I'm loved this much by someone." Which is also fine, because that might've been something I could easily say, but what you just said is very selfless. It makes me believe that one day you will indeed love someone and equally be loved this much :) all the best.
+JCF Productions Thank you. That means a lot coming from you.
Oh my one little human heart can't take it. I'm in tears. This is brilliant
I want to put a thousand likes to this video, thank you, it’s wonderful 💙💙💙
Mashusha P thank you, love you!
I have been emotionally moved by many video creations focusing on 12 and Clara but I think this is the ulitmate. I feel sorry for those who are unable to see the special bond these two had. None of the conventional stuff but something more, something greater. They had a bond that in the end had to be broken for it was so strong. I think the way their relationship was developed and how it culminated was beautifully written as well as acted and to be able to show to those with emotional intelligence that love can take so many forms and that just because one is unconventional doesn't necessarily make it unethical or 'wrong'. Yes there is romantic love, parental love, etc etc but there are others too that have such a greater purity that cannot be defined in words. Thank you for making such heart warming videos.
That was so brilliant! The whole video was perfect, but the end, leaving it on that line, after the bit she said to Danny!! There are no words. Thank you
Thank you so much!
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful
Thank you!
You did it!!!!!!!!
I cant find any word to describe it
Thank you so much!
This video is beautiful !!! For me i feel like no companion is gonna ever replace clara in twelve's heart they are forever together and i really hope twelve remembers clara in the next series
I hope so too! And I agree, as much as I look forward to meeting Bill, she has a tough role, coming after Clara. In my heart Twelve is Clara's Doctor. And Clara is Twelve's companion.
I just... have no words. thank you!
I love all of your videos. U r wonderful.
Aww! Thank you so much! You're wonderful as well :)
Actually they have three heart. Two hearts of the Doctor and one Clara's.
I think this video is one of the most beautiful and emotional what I've ever watched. I never stop missing Whouffaldi.
Thank you! Ah I know, I thought about the Three Hearts thing, but Clara's heart is not beating:(
I don't have words to express how great this video is to me, only feelings. Thanks.
The tears! The tears are real! Beautiful work!!
Thank you so much!! I we could put all our tears together in a bottle and send it to Peter and Jenna! xD
oh god i felt chills right when i heard the first notes, the song is amazing. Ugh i hate it that we live in different zones, I can never be the first to comment on your total amazingness and extraordinary way of editing the right clips with music to the dialogue..
"who maintain's your heart?"
"i think she was called Clara Oswald." CRIES FOR LIFE. that was amazing parallel.
My favorite woman, thank you so much! I loved the song too, it's such a beautiful melody isn't it? I especially love how simple and rhythmic it is :)
It's okay, I posted it in a wrong time, when most of the world is sleeping! But I got too excited and couldn't resist :p
I think I lest a comment here before, but I have to write again, this is literally the best video i have watched about them being the hybrid, being connected, being almost the same person amd being very, very much in love. That ending brutally murdered me, now its absolutely canon that she thought that in that little pause, I wont be able to think anything else in my rewatches. Your talentttttt damn itttt
Sesil thank you so much!
That was gorgeous. just beautifully done - your editing of the dialogue was breathtaking to tell this story. wow.
skallywalla thank you so so much!
I love watching these. Like I love them they are amazing. :) I mean it. Clara and the doctor I loved them. And I'm honestly crying. This is so perfect in every way
Thank you so much, and I miss them too
I love this video so much, it's one of my favourite whouffaldi video
This gave me goosebumps. Outstanding voiceover selection!
Oh thank you! This means so much coming from you :')
Okay i rewatched it, i am calmer. This is really really beautiful, there are no words. You are incredible, with every new video you outdo yourself. Thank you for all the feels.
I so love this Doctor. And this video. Thanks :)
Me too, and thank YOU! Not me :)
beautiful
Thank you
There's only one word for this masterpiece: epic! You are so good at giving me the feels!
Fantastic job, as always. It flows perfectly with the song, and the way you stitched it together is elegant and flawless. 👍
Ahh, you really think so? Thank you so much!
THIS WAS BRILLIANT!!! I miss Doctor Who so much, Thank You for this amazing video, It got me in the Feels :D
I love your videos so much. I hope you make more Clara/Twelve vids, because they are the symphony of my soul
Oh my stars this is beautiful
OMG this is so beautiful you have an amazing talent!!!!
Your vids are always the best.
Yeah I felt this only whern Doctor was with Rose and with Clara,he loved this women. thank you for this video, very nice.
YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN OMFG ITS BEAUTIFUL I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
brilliant!
I'm crying (again! bloody Doctor Who
Aww thank you! And same!
Beautiful
I can’t even watch this right now it’s too much
My feelings!! 😞 💔
This is probably my favourite one out of all the Doctor + Clara videos you've made. I think my favourties playlist is 3/4 just your videos xD. The Doctor and Clara were my favourite team
Ahh that is the sweetest thing I've read all day, thank you :*
This is just so crazy good. Amazing work, truly. I've got a huge case of the feels now, thanks...! ;P
Aww, thank you so much!
Oh my god. I can’t believe you put the “who maintains your heart” there
FIrst, Donna was washed away her memories of the doctor now, its The Doctor's memories of Clara that are slowly turning into a wonderful story of the impossible girl... well done on this video :D
Literally tearing up while watching the whole vid. Holy crap.... 😣
i'm crying this is so heartbreaking
Aww :(
'Who maintains your heart?' CLARA OSWALD
Thank you so much baby! Have you been able to fix the problem with the audios yet? :)
o... m... g... 😭😭😭😭 I'm very sad!! ❤❤
how many years later, and I'm still rekt
Wow this is amazing I'm so glad I'm subscribed to you your amazing every vid with Clara I'm literally crying :)
you're so sweet and kind, thank you so much
+JCF Productions :) please never stop vidding the doctor and Clara together because I love them so much !!
omg this is so beautiful, i'm literally crying
Thank you so much love!
I am crying all over my keyboard right now!
This is so deep I have no idea how to deal with it
Just re-watched hell bent then came back here for more crying :)))) I'm so fine right now, I can't get over my love for then ending, I feel like she knew she had to break her promise to Danny because it wasn't fair that she never got to say those words to the doctor. And I felt like she knew it was time to say it because after discovering the doctor spent four and a half billion years punching through diamond rocks and dying over and over again just to save her like, you don't do that for just anyone. So in a way I feel like she knows it's finally safe to say it, she knows the doctor undoubtedly loves her and won't say it, so she does
I agree completely, but I think there's also another layer underneath it all. I think even when Danny was around, Clara always knew (at least thought she knew) how much the Doctor loved her. I mean, he's offering her all of time and space even after she betrayed everything he ever stood for. She knew he cared THAT much. In Face the Raven, she stops him from admitting his love to her, saying "everything you're about to say, I already know". So I think in that point in time, the reason she couldn't say "I love you" until the cloisters is not because she doesn't trust the Doctor enough/or because she doesn't think he loves her so deeply. I think there was something else going on there as well. (Of course, Clara was utterly shocked when she found out about the 4.5 billion years, which changes her perspective completely, because that amount is actually inhumane, and I still can't fathom it to this day)
I'm explaining what I think is the main reason in the next comment.
I think Clara always felt a mix of guilt and grief over Danny, because she didn't love him as she should have. I always felt sad for Danny, because the woman she loved was not really reciprocating, was she? Oh I could talk about even Danny x Clara for hours, but I'm just gonna get to the point.
We should just remember that "I'm never gonna say (I love you) again not to anybody else, ever." were Clara's final words to Danny, before he was hit by the car. I mean, just think of the baggage that last sentence holds, for the audience it's just utterly tragic, but for Clara herself, who FINALLY made her decision between Danny and the Doctor, who FINALLY gives Danny the love he always deserved, and wanted to spend the rest of her life with him, has her world crush upon her once again.
I think she doesn't hold onto those last words because of how much she "loved" Danny, but because she felt it was the only way she could pay homage to someone she treated unfairly. I think she thought, (cont)
I think she thought "at least, let me give him that". Which basically led to another guilt-led action of hers, which is bargaining for Danny's life. These actions are not pure love, they're pure guilt. Like the Doctor said "without the capacity for pain, we can't feel the hurt that we inflict". And Clara knows how much she's hurt Danny.
Of course, all of those promises shatter once again in the Cloisters. Because 4.5 billion years revelation is something bigger than Clara Oswald paying homage to Danny Pink. Because this time, if she didn't say those words to the Doctor, after everything he's done, it wouldn't be fair to HIM, not Danny. And Clara can't bear to treat anyone like that once again.
that is literally the best way anyone could possibly communicate their situation
omgggg it realy amazing 😱😱😍😍😍 xx
Thank you very much!
One heart in Two body
I love the video!!!!!!
Thank you!
I agree that Clara and Twelve were in love but I always wanted to ask you what you're thinking about Eleven and Clara? Video is wonderful btw!
Thank you! And I'm so glad that you value my opinions about the series! Well, here is my opinion: I've been a fan for a long, long time, so when Clara was introduced, I really liked the Impossible Girl arc. It was a real mystery to me. It wasn't like, let's say I binge-watched Series 7b a few years later, I saw Clara's character and mystery evolving week to week, and I remember distinctly being excited to see the trailer of Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, because Eleven was questioning Clara! And obviously there was the big 50th Special coming up, and I kinda "forgave" Moffat for not giving Clara that much character development. She was supposed to be a mystery, after all! And this is why I never understood why people were so quick to judge Clara in Series 7b.
So a few years ago, my answer to this question would be: "I love them and their chemistry so much!"
But times have changed, and a few years have passed. The Christmas Special came, and then Twelve came on board. (Continued)
The fact that Twelve seemed so cold to everyone, almost "heartless", made me question the show. Because my favorite quote in the entire series was Eleven's: "900 years of time and space and I've never met someone who wasn't important". And here we had Twelve, calling everyone pudding brains and making fun of people dying (Into the Dalek).
You're probably wondering where I'm going with this, so I'll make sure I don't drift off. I can talk about this forever :p
All of these sudden changes made me re-check Eleven's era. I watched The Girl Who Waited, where he was literally THE DEVIL, and I realized, Eleven seems like a cinnamon roll who can actually be a mean, mean time lord. Going with this comparison, Twelve was the supposed "mean, mean time lord" who was actually a cinnamon roll. So that totally switched my perspective on Clara's chemistry and story with these two regenerations. Why? Because I started to notice that Eleven treated Clara like a mystery, not even a human being. (Cont)
Even after Clara jumped on the time stream, when she didn't even know who she was, Eleven could've said "I'm so proud of you, Clara, you're Clara Oswald, child of Ellie, you went through so much, thank you" but all he said was "You're my impossible girl". To be honest, I don't like the perspective that all companions had to be SOMETHING for the Doctor. I didn't like that the Doctor was seen like a God, that he was ice and fire and rage. Of course he's good, but the companions are also important right? I didn't like that Clara was "BORN TO SAVE THE DOCTOR". Nope. Clara was born to be the beautiful Clara Oswald! River Song was not born to kill the Doctor. Amy Pond shouldn't have been the girl who waited. Her whole life. Even though she did, in my opinion she shouldn't have been labeled through her connections to the Doctor. I mean she was just.. The wonderful Amy Pond. After I started to see these things, I was like, Damn Moffat.
(Cont)
The final straw came when Eleven left Clara TWICE in tTotD. He didn't value her opinions on her OWN life. He could have cared about her, yes, but Clara said herself, that no matter what, she wanted to be with the Doctor.
As you can see, I have a rage for Eleven that I still to this day can not quite recover from. Eleven and Clara were cute, Matt and Jenna certainly were, and Whouffle was a love story. I believe that 100%. It was canon that Clara at least, was besotted with Eleven. But no matter how cute they were, it couldn't even compare to Clara's CHARACTER development and the epic love story of Clara and Twelve. These are just my opinions, obviously. And I freakin' love Eleven too. He used to be my fav Doctor until the Series 8 finale, when I finally admitted to myself, okay, I think I love this grumpy old man (12) more than anything in the world.
Oh and one last thing, if you watch the beginning of my video "Human", I made a very distinct comparison of how 11 treated Clara vs how 12 treated Clara. And like I told you, after Matt's Christmas Special, I thought that after everything Clara's done for the Doctor, it would only be fair that 12 kissed the ground Clara walked on, and damn he did.
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And as always, your videos are beautiful!
congrats! thank you so much!
Oooh my heart, my heart, what have you done to it ? T.T
Omg this is sooooo beautiful
Thank you so much!
I can’t believe you’re doing this
Amazing video. :)
Thank you!
Truth doesn't need to be thanked. :)
They were in love, but it wasn't a love like anything we could experience. It was deeper.
Nothing is sad, until it's over.
Then everything is.
i'm crying. 😭💓
why ? i nerver understand this if someone cry by a video :D ¿
+Hybride 'cause this is really beautiful and I'm a really emotional person 😂
+Hybride I cry because of videos ALL the time!
+Primonx3 I guess I'm really emotional as well :p
+JCF Productions haha ok ♡
you are so good
thank you!
I love this Video - Doctor Basil Disco :)
Oh, please tell me.... She loved him??? I feel it, but I don't understand is it so, or just my suggestion....
One of my favourites, can you tell me which software do you use?
Who maintains your heart?
The Doctor:) but he doesn't know about it.
The doctor. Always.
I love that you found this quote and used it to its full heartbreaking potential. How did you do this? This hits all the heartstrings all at once. It's the perfect narrative of the hybrid in under three minutes! *I bow, applaud, take notes, reblog, share, cry, and repeat*
mantra4ia I Always See pink hair in all the dw video's i see😝😝😝
Just a mad man in a box I know, it's terrible =) . I've got a DW lifestyle.
*goosebumps*
God I’m so sad abt them but it’s a good sad
This was so beautiful! How are you separating out the voices and background noises?! Like, this is so magic! Excellent work~
Thank you so much! You can find the unscored audios in youtube, just search "doctor who unscored"
Or you can download (torrent) doctor who episodes but make sure they have 6 separate audio channels, so you can separate them with your audio software :) feel free to contact me if you need help
sweet...
100% CLARA TOLD HIM SHE LOVED HIM BC THIS HURTS SO MUCH
IKR!!! Honestly what else could she have said, I don't understand the arrogance of people who won't accept that they were madly in love!!
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i actually have such a grudge against people who deny the mutual love and respect between twelve and clara simply because of the age difference between the actors
You are so right. I feel the same.
I am one of peter capaldi s fans.
%100 12 loves clara and clara loves him
100% true
BUT SHE ISNT JUST YOUR FRIEND IS SHE DOCTOR NO SHES NOT
Nope, she's not :p everyone can see that
Beautifully made video!
Oh god you didn’t let her finish. She needed to say it it always needs saying
Another awesome video! Do you take music requests? Would love a Whouffaldi video to "Evermore" by Josh Groban. Fell hard for Twelve/Clara. Keep up the great work!
Smile for me
Stand by me ♡ like it love u
Go on, clara oswald!! D':
I really want to know what Clara told him!!!! Our only clue is Clara's theme song. Can Moffat make a short or something? It will bother me so much not knowing what she said. Maybe someone can compose lyrics or decrypt the song. This is one of those things that Doctor who will never reveal to us, like how they keep the Doctor's name a secret.
You know what she told him 😉
On a deeper note though - At the end of the episode Hell Bent, the Doctor starts playing Clara’s theme on the guitar. Hearing this, Clara tells the Doctor that memories become stories when we forget them, and that maybe some of them become songs. That is indeed Clara’s song, Clara’s story, that the Doctor plays. This is the same song that rang in the Cloisters. Clara’s theme is again played by 12, when Bill and her lover lock eyes for the first time - falling in love.
The Doctor has said in Series 9 and I quote: “you lot, you’re bananas about relationships: you always write songs about them all, or going to war, or getting tattooed”. They have done all three of these things..
The Doctor has also played Pretty Woman for Clara - the first song we saw him play for her. Clara’s theme is the last song he played for her. Moffat loves to tie the sad ends with the happy beginnings. I’ve heard Clara’s theme on screen so far only throughout two kinds of scenes: either Clara is being cute/cool, or Clara is talking about something very deep/heroic. Pretty Woman is very similar, thematically, to the first type of scenario in which they play Clara’s theme. The Guitar version the Doctor plays belongs to the second scenario.
@@JCFProductions very well said. :) Omg Twelve and Clara are just amazing.
how do you do it
Me? I just sit in front of the computer and hope something good happens :p
My favorite Companion of all time is Amy...but Clara is a VERY close second
shouldn't the title be Twelfth doctor and clara oswald_three hearts ?ayyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Maral Rahmani technically it is two, because Clara's heart doesn't beat anymore, so it's only two functioning harts now
thanks, Satan :'( (you are right though, of course. It just hurts to read it)
I still haven't watched the end of Clara, can anyone answer me this: does the doctor forgets Clara?
Chandler Sun Watch it
Chandler Sun spoilers 😉
Three hearts is more correct xP
The Doctor love His pagan little girls
Is Clara the doctors daughter
tasha frostfury no
tasha frostfury wtf
The 12th Doctor loves Clara so much. Unfortunately, I've never seen a man love a woman like that. However, I've seen fathers love their daughters more than their own lives.
So, the question is: even though I ADORE the idea of a 12th Doctor/Clara romance, isn't it more a father-daughter relationship? No man would fight in his eternal torture chamber for 4.5 billion years for a woman, but a father can, for his child...
My husband would.