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Her dying is hard enough to take, but him suffering for millions of years to bring her back, becoming the Hybrid and then forget about her... is unbearable
*billions
@@anyakneez He didn't though. Well, he did, he knows that it happened, but the one we see moving forward didn't experience all of it. Sure billions of Doctors died horribly, but the worst this one got is a bit of exhaustion and some pain in his hand. It's more like being aware of an atrocity as apposed to experiencing it first hand. Not a perfect analogy, but the best I could come up with.
@@justinmitchell2577 rewatch the episode he says there are 2 things everyone experiences but cant remember birth and death but he remembers every time
@@GoofyStoner He does? I don't doubt you, but I don't think he logically should be able to remember the deaths. I'll rewatch the episode
@@justinmitchell2577 I believe Steven Moffat explained that he regains his memories of the previous attempts once he reaches the wall of diamond
Honestly found this part heartbreaking, all that effort and sacrifice not to lose Clara, all to end up forgetting her entirely.
Spaceboomer Darkchaser I agree, it feels like he suffered for 4.5 billion years for nothing
But remember that's what makes this Doctor so amazing.. what he was willing to do for Clara and how devoted he was to her.. if that's not friendship I don't know what is
@@EmilyDiCaprio17channel lmao I'm a bit late but not technically. He wouldnt have remembered any of the old tries. Or maybe he did but everything reset its self besides the crystal wall. Those 2 episodes were some of the best though
@@Lrobinson_03 He knew how long he spent there. Remember him saying "If I didn't know better, I'd say you traveled X years into the future", where the "X" increases with each reset. So I bet he knew it all or realised it sooner or later.
Also, I am not sure how Clara's story ended but she flew of in her kinda alive state, right? So doctor's sacrifice wasn't totally in vain
But at least he knows Clara is alive somewhere. Her worth isn't defined by how the Doctor remembers her - it's by how we remember Clara Oswald.
I never realised how close his speech to Clara was to his regeneration speech. It shows you how highly he regards Clara, how much she's his equal in this moment that he gives her the same advice as his future self
That’s the promise of the Doctor. He wasn’t just giving advice, he was telling her to _be the Doctor._
Yes!! It’s his goodbye, so bittersweet
You're supposed to give the same advice that you would give to others that you would give to yourself anyway, to everyone, for advanced "use of the word" and "do unto others as you would have done unto you in the same circumstances" reasons though.
“Never be cruel and never be cowardly. And if you ever are, ALWAYS MAKE AMENDS” words to live by
AND NEVER EAT PEARS
That’s the promise of the Doctor. He wasn’t just giving advice, he was telling her to _be the Doctor._
@@0th_Law Which makes it more interesting he tells a similar thing to thirteenth in his regeneration speech
"I don't think I could ever forget you" "Clara I don't think you're ever going to have to" my heart broke
Peter Capaldi is such a good Doctor.... .I dont want him to go..
TERRY. W Capaldi is a shame to DW. I'm glad he is leaving.
Capaldi is the only reason i'm still watching, Steven is the problem... never blame a actor till you see the director/writer...
John J. Rambo What the heck? Peter Capaldi is such a good doctor. He is that person who is trying to be cool to his friends so he can't let depression take over him. I can totally relate to that. The doctor doesn't have to be attractive to be the Doctor. It's Steven Moffat's direction not Capaldi. He is a much bigger fan than David Tennant and Matt Smith combined. He is the man that stops the monsters. The alien who is trying to understand humanity. He IS THE DOCTOR!
Bentertainment Productions disagree but you have right on ur opinion.
Space Shark Productions don't talk to me, cockroach.
A Real Fan Does Not Hate Any Doctor Okay, ANY OF THEM!!!.
"Don't eat pears, they're squishy and make your chin wet."
12, your 10 is showing
The line about pears actually originated from the 7th Doctor.
I thought he said "prayers" and was quite confused until I read your comment, d'oh.
WimpyKelv12 when
That one's quite important, write it down
WimpyKelv12 WHEN
I just realised that 12 quoted parts of this speech in his regeneration speech from the Christmas special "never be cruel or cowardly", "always be kind", "never eat pears" 😂😭
He was teaching her how to be a good doctor, similar to the advice he gives the next doctor that follows him.
@@joecroft4274 shame she didn’t listen to the lesson
@@xx-footcmpsf.c3693 violation
How? She never even showed up again @@xx-footcmpsf.c3693
People hate this episode way too much. This was supposed to show how far the Doctor went for Clara, so this was meant to be for him to be out of character. I loved it from beginning to end, even though it tripped over a little in the middle. This scene was so emotional and in my opinion was probably one of Peter Capaldi's best performances in Doctor Who. It's sad Capaldi's leaving after one more season.
Dennis Lai 290 Agree with your comment entirely!
Dennis Lai 290
I've got only two problems with this episode.
1. Gallifrey shouldn't've been a part of it.
2. The general's regeneration.
I wasn't a fan of Clara's exit in Face the Raven honestly. As a concept it was brilliant but the execution except for acting was cringeworthy. Her dialogue was great but the death scene. I took Hell Bent for what it was. a story about these two and it was a great one. Heaven Sent being one of the best eps in ALL of Doctor Who, leaving it open for a Gallifrey storyline, everyone was expecting somethin different.
1. why not?
2. why?
people hated when the angels moved on 5x05..... they just dont pay attention
loved it to death
He had lost Amy and Rory and she brought him back to himself to be a Doctor again. The thought of losing her was unbearable to him She always saved him . He couldn't bear that he couldn't save her and watched her die a pain filled brave death. Could you imagine hearing that scream in Face the Raven ? He couldn't face the Raven but maybe that is how he will go, brave for a friend or friends .
Yooo you predicted the Doctor Falls. He goes down, refusing to run away, helping a small group of people in a spaceship. Helping Nardole and Bill.
Not in a Time-Ending Epic like 10, not in a Universe-War like 11, not because of absorbing the Time Vortex like 9. 12 went out saving a village. One single village. Without hope, without witness, without reward.
I want the doctor to go back to Susan when she is old and say "I told you I would come back"
Eddies RobloxDaily Well, the Eighth went back to see her so it happened. XD
Jason Starr yeah but she should at least come back to the show
She came back in the show back in the five doctors, but I have been wanting this episode since dalek invasion of earth...
He met up with her in The Five Doctors.
Well you guys need to expand yourselves upon the DW verse some more, it won't kill ya!
It's more impactful when you remember Clara's backstory. She has been around since the beginning, since the First Doctor. She knows how he is probably better then almost anyone.
Not really. In Deep Breath she totally freaked out about the Doctor changing his face despite having met all incarnations. She knows him superficially, but meaningfully doesn't at all.
One of the main reasons I love Doctor Who, is because you see the impact the companions have on him.
When he starts off his new regeneration, he has a lot of anger and lack of physical contact.
But his companions bring out the true kindness of his soul and the love he has for them
That Random Freak yes 😃😍
Clara: run you clever boy and REMEMBER
The doctor: *forgets
Clara: OH FOR F-
How can some people hate Clara. I still sob uncontrollably after watching this
Laila White WOW! Clara Clara Clara. The most annoying companion along with Donna.
Clara ruined Series 9 because she made the Doctor have a good attitude and Series 8 was so dark and epic. Clara did improve in Series 8 from Series 7B but it got annoying when Clara just kept on banging on about Danny.
AND SERIES 7B!!!!! MATT SMITH IS TERRIBLE! JENNA WAS SO ANNOYING SAYING OH MY STARS THIS LEAF IS SO IMPORTANT JUST BECAUSE IT MADE THE IRRITATING PERSON CLARA OSWALD!
@@OliLinklater WHEN YOU WRITE EVERYTHING WITH CAPS LOCK PRESSED IT'S MUCH MORE PERSUADING
@@lepimond4605 Interesting fact: this comment got 9x more likes in 8 months than that one did in 4 years 👏👏
@@OliLinklater 13 is more human than in any of the other carnations, he’s the most vulnerable and relatable, Clara helped to show the pain grief brings people with the death of someone she loved, and 13 themselves proves that even when she does hurt him that he simply doesn’t want to spend the rest of time thinking of hate nor pain, he moved passed what is knowledge by gaining his inner humanity, Clara sacrificed just as much as him in the small span of a human life, albeit not physically, but more mentally, she was smart, fun and enjoyable to watch up until her leaving, sure she might be annoying but so were all the other companions in different ways, Clara might not be the best but she certainly has proven to be a great human companion that is relatable to most people on a sentimental level.
I'm suuuuuuuuperrrr late buuuuut I personally dislike Clara because I kind of felt like she overstayed her welcome. I don't know why but after Victorian Era Clara (who I loved) I quickly started losing interest in her. I even stopped watching the show for a while because her dynamic with the doctor felt boring. I don't hate her at all though, I also kind of liked the whole impossible girl theme, that was cool.
Ahh, Clara! She’s the woman who still wants to hug him even with an older face and gruff persona. The woman who stopped him from destroying his planet, the woman who made him feel safe enough to be himself, flaws and all. Her opinion matters. He may not understand humanity as much this time around, but he’ll make damn sure he understands her in the way she seems to understand him.
Just picture Twelve, the man who isn’t particularly bothered by what the vast majority thinks of him, making note of every thing he does that makes Clara laugh, the things that make her cross, and what she looks like in every instance. How the things he says and does impact those big eyes of hers.
Imagine his confusion when they have their last hurrah on the Orient Express. He doesn’t even know what to make of her, because she’s combining her sad eyes and her warm smile, so what could that possibly mean? Just imagine how in Dark Water, he can’t believe that she thinks he cares for her so little that betraying him would make a difference. That her eyes are inflated and she’s frowning and she looks so defeated. After he’d been working so hard to reach her, to understand her, even if most humans didn’t make sense, because he’d always try, for her. She still doesn’t think he cares much about her, because he doesn’t twirl around the TARDIS or boop her nose like his younger self once did. But he takes note of every last movement that crosses her face, and every word she says, and cross checks them until they all fit together. Because they matter. His teacher, his friend. He cares a lot more than she could possibly know. And she thinks betraying him could make a difference.
When he sees the old woman version of Clara in Last Christmas, she doesn’t look any different to him. Not really. Not necessarily because he’s blinded by adoration for this woman who has had such a remarkable impact on his life, but because her expressions are still markedly Clara’s, and they’ll never change no matter how many wrinkles she has. She’s just Clara, after all.
When he fights so hard to rescue her back in Hell Bent, he doesn’t know how out of control he is until he stops and looks at her-really looks at her-and sees an expression he only ever saw when she faced the scariest of monsters. Her friend, making her scared. “Oh Clara Oswald, what am I doing?”
He doesn’t much care for other people’s opinions of him. But Clara’s thoughts always matter, if only he can decipher the way they come across her face. She brings out the best and the worst in him, but the parts that will always stay with him are the very best-her kindness, her determination, her unyielding belief in his goodness. Because even when they challenge each other or question each other or don’t make sense to each other-their souls seem to recognize each other in raw, intimate ways. And they never stopped fighting to protect that, despite themselves! Twelve and Clara will go down as one of the best pairings in the history of Doctor Who!
Same... sad they get so much hate.
Really wish this comment was published material. :)
Same. And the sheer character dynamacy to this iteration of the show will always trump the 'wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey' era that the screaming fangirls are trying to bring back. :) Well, to me at least.
yes!!! clara is my favourite!
i still hate clara
I have a feeling this was Steven Moffat trying to get the fandom to appreciate clara
He knew...he always knows. He knew. Which makes it sadder. He let her keep her memories.
Didn't occur to me until rewatching it just now. But then he said, "I'm not sure you've managed to reverse the polarity, I'm not even sure that you can". And it dawned on me... He's probably right. Which means that he sacrificed his own memories because he could never give up on saving Clara, but he could always trust her. To save the universe he had to give her up and trust her to do what he couldn't. Silly, sentimental old Doctor.
It's sad, and it's beautiful.
I never understood the dislike for Clara. I thought she was an amazing character. The ending of this episode is one of the most touching moments of the series.
It's not about Clara herself, it's that they dumbed the Doctor down to make her look better.
@@hellterminator Interesting take, I've never heard that before. I admit it has been a while since I watched any Doctor Who. I stopped watching after the first episode of Jodie Whittaker (I gave her a brief chance. A fine actress I just didn't buy her as the role, I think they did her a disservice and miscast her). I'd be interested in hearing why people think they dumbed down the Doctor... was that when Capaldi took over or the last few episodes of Matt Smith?
@@jessepage6575 You know how Tennant was a lot of people's favorite Doctor, and when Matt Smith was supposed to be his successor, people were very wary of his abilities to win them over. And then he did, all in his first episode too, because he did such a good job with playing the role and filling in the void that Tennant left behind? Similarly, the Ponds were a lot of people's favorite companions. Clara had such large shoes to fill when becoming the Doctor's new companion. However, unlike Smith proving his worth in a single episode, Clara...arguably...never proved her worth to fill in the shoes of the Ponds. She was in every way more boring than Amy and the man she dragged along, Danny, was an even worse attempt at Rory. She also had this undeserved ego about her that really bugged me.
And then there's the fact that we missed out on the possibility of Dalek Clara or Victorian Clara only to have boring ol Contemporary Clara. That's probably another big reason why people dislike her. Both prior versions that Eleven met were far superior, and more interesting to have around as companions, yet they killed them off just to have the most boring version we could have gotten. IDK what they were thinking with that one. Why couldn't we have something else other than a modern day companion for a change? To start with Victorian Clara and Dalek Clara, then turn them down for Contemporary Clara, you'd really have to do some phenomenal storytelling to convince people that such a trade made sense. And they didn't. Again, she was boring compared to the potential of the other two versions. She did a piss poor job convincing us that we didn't somehow miss out by not having the other two instead. Arguably, it might have been better to not have introduced Dalek and Victorian Clara at all. Then we wouldn't know what we were missing.
Oh, and Clara straight up mistreated the Doctor on a number of occasions. She throws a tantrum at him when he doesn't deserve it during the Moon Episode, and she betrays him for bargain bin Rory. She kinda does this thing where she challenges fan favorite characters like Vastra without earning it, what with that Veil conversation. You know, Rory did a lot to earn respect from the fandom. The man died more than once and guarded his wife for 2000 years. He earned the right to punch the Doctor in his smug face. Clara did not earn the right to explode at Vastra for judging her for what she was. The hard thing about writing characters, especially for a legacy series like DW, is that you have to make your characters EARN their moments, especially those moments where they challenge older characters. You can't just give them a cool moment out of nowhere, otherwise it's going to feel like unearned bias. Even her jumping into the timestream to save the Doctor, at least for me, still felt somewhat unearned. It speaks volumes when some of fans' favorite moments with Clara is when people call her out on her shit and dished out some humility to her. My favorites happen to be when Vastra asked Clara what is the Doctor's name, and River reveals that she knows it, and the other one is when Strax examines her and says that she has unchecked narcissism. Now, maybe it would have been way better if the series had more with that sort of thing. You can have this egotistical naraccistic character, and then have a series where she's constantly challenged and being taught humility. It only happens a handful of times for Clara, not nearly enough to balance her out.
She definitely had potential to be a solid companion, and in many ways she was. But she also dropped the ball on being a good follow-up companion to the Ponds. It's not even necessarily all her fault either. The Ponds were just that good, that beloved by both the Doctor and the fandom.
@@ShadeSlayer1911Yeah, I can’t say I liked the betrayal all that much either, though it’s strange, I didn’t mind it when rose did it for her father, but then again that’s fairly different circumstances, Clara throws those keys knowing that if she throws all of them, they can’t go home, and the doctor can never save anyone again, meanwhile roses actions (probably in her mind) wouldn’t affect the doctor with his ability to just leave, I might be misremembering though, it’s been awhile since I last watched it
But I can’t say I didn’t love Capaldi for forgiving Clara, his line there was so powerful and just nicely executed
" You can't see me can you? You're looking at me and you can't see me. Have you any idea what that's like? " Tragic Irony at its best
He can no longer Clarafy who she is.
thedoctorand nice pun
groan
Am I going to hell for laughing at this LOL
Oml I'm Giggling Through The Tears
Your comment helped stop my flood of tears, THANK YOU!!
If it's time to go remember what your leaving. The Doctor's friends have always been the best of him.
Donna was sad but Clara's story arc was the saddest of the companions imo. Amy and Rory still lived their lives but just further back in time. Clara though... holy damn. She went through hell.
She met his all selves
Unpopular opinion. Bill had the worst ending. She felt abandoned for years and was converted into a Mondasian Cyberman. Yes Donna forgot the Doctor and their adventures but the second she remembered she would burn up instantly.While that is extremely tragic, there is a small possibility that she never remembers. Amy got to live out her life with the man she loved. Clara got to spend basically infinite amount of time having adventures before she had to go back to Face the Raven. Bill was shot in the chest and operated on for several years, all while thinking the Doctor would save her and unfortunately he didn't get there in time.
Not to mention she’s now frozen in time until she returns to her fixed death.
"You and me, together. Look how far I went for fear of losing you." Season 9 wasn't my favourite but Heaven Sent and Hell Bent were up there.
These episodes mixed with Capaldi's words and his actions to save Clara, epic series finale.
series 9 was god tier, with the exception of Sleep No More. which is also better than some previous episodes like l*ve a*d m*n*t*rs
@@larsswig912 Fear Her was even worse.
@larsswig912 Series 9, in my opinion, was the best season of NuWho, and possibly even the show as a whole. I even liked Sleep No More, not as much as the other episodes, but they really did well with that season.
I'm gonna miss Peter after 4 Timey Wimey years as the 12th/13th Doctor.
4? 3 years
EpiCuber7 It will be 4 years when Peter made his debut as the 12th/13th at the end of the 2013 christmas special.
Vaughn Baskin /// Started in 2013, will regenerate in 2017's Christmas Special
Mikołaj Garbowski Yep.
Don't cry Mr Mythical i sense that the new Doctor just might be a Time Lady as The Mistress will say.
I love the connection between 12th and Clara. Here you can see how close they really are. That's was what's missing with 13th and her "Fam."
Moffa tmay have his problems, But I do genuinely care for all the companions he gave us...
Amy: The girl who waited, not wanting to grow up, but does so, in the end, to live with Rory full time in the past.
Clara: The impossible girl, the girl who helped him to make some of the right choices in his life, the Control freak meeting the uncontrollable. She also wants to prove herself, proving that she can be like him, but she went too far, and that was her downfall.And the Doctor went through hell just to get her back, even wiped his own memories.
Bill: The student, a curious mind but kind, Not as strong as the other but 12 never really cares, she likes to ask questions, like a student should, and is strong-willed.
Even with the weaker one like Bill, I still feel the connection of her and 12, it was nice and then World Enough and Time happened.
These 3 hold a place in my heart along with the others, Mainly Donna and Clara....
A little fun fact too: Clara is kind of a what if for Rose, like we see in Series 2 she's willing to stay with the Doctor rather than her own mother, so if circumstances come, she might meet the same fate as Clara if she wasn't trapped in another universe.
This scene, specially the pear bit, is why Peter Capaldi was such a perfect actor for the Doctor.
Had to be awkward for Ashildr to go up to Clara afterwards and basically say "Sorry I got you killed and sorry that The Doctor has just wiped his mind to forget you, but I don't suppose you know how to fly this thing."
run you clever boy..and remember
One Little Dreamer Uh no! Clara is stupid!
Relationship between Doctor and Clara was the best one. I will be miss you Clara Oswald.
Yes. One million times, yes ;-)
Part of the Doctor's motivation behind wanting to save Clara that desperately is carried over from his previous incarnation. 11 had already let two versions of Clara die in front of him before, and as he would admit, it was his fault to some extent. When 11 met modern Clara, he didn't want her to die in front of him yet again because of his actions.
This carries over to his next incarnation after 11 regenerated. Though 12 may not look it, deep down he still has that thought within him, wanting to ensure that Clara doesn't die because of him. Just like in Last Christmas when the Doctor discovers that Clara has grown old, he regrets not coming to Clara earlier because Clara was most likely going to pass away soon, until Santa hints to the Doctor that it's still another dream.
And now, 12 sees Clara die in front of him in Face the Raven, and he knows it is partly his fault again as well, because he had an indirect part in it by saving Ashildr in the first place. He had unintentionally made the same mistake that he had done in his previous incarnation, and the thought of it probably pushed him to the breaking point where he was willing to go to extreme lengths to rectify this grave mistake.
I can understand Hell Bent being an episode focusing more on the Doctor and Clara's relationship rather than the Doctor himself wreaking havoc on Gallifrey; that one scene alone of the Doctor facing off against Rassilon was enough to prove how much dominance the Doctor had over Gallifrey as a respected war hero, and it also further cements the Doctor's status as "the man who could turn an army around at the mention of his name" (or in this case, his mere presence).
I feel this episode serves as a decent wrap up, while at the same time having a nice little nod to the earlier Impossible Girl story arc in series 7B: one of the main reasons the Doctor got so interested in Clara in the first place was because of the earlier mystery surrounding Clara; in order for the Doctor to move on fully from Clara, the only way was to wipe it clean off his memory.
Consider the character arc of Peter Capaldi's Doctor. From "Why this face" to realizing that you save the ones you can. From being willing to destroy the universe to save Clara to the conversation with Bill "You said you would save me" "Yes" "Were you lying?" "No" Were you right?" "No".
Am i the actually only fan of this show that loved everything about the clara/capaldi seasons of the show
they had such amazing chemistry they're my favorite doctor/companion duo of new who
Y.A.N.A
Alp A I absolutely agree I love Clara too
i liked clara but she was misused...and as sad as this moment was i think it would have been better and more gut wrenching if she had remained dead from the whole raven ordeal. Sometimes more is less. we don't need a second Doctor floating around time and space.
I loved them too
Tennant captured the rage of The Doctor
Smith captured the age of The Doctor
Capaldi captured the pain of The Doctor.
I think the 9th was rage and 10th was accepted
Nah 10th definitely captured the pain as well.
Why is it that the Doctor Who UA-cam channel is trying to kill us all?
erez shpirer they broke their rules. they became the hybrid
It keeps happening, every video they upload is a heartbreak lately...
I assume you meant something gross and dumb befitting the internet culture.
It is one thing to have an opinion, it is a whole other to be obnoxious.
erez shpirer yes, and you obnoxious.
That was extremely sad and well acted... Thank you
This was the saddest for me, besides the part when they separated in the diner for her final goodbye!! 😢😭😂😂 Loved Clara's character and the actor so much in *Doctor Who* 😍😍😍
XxViolentYoshixX2 in ur 1st 4 emojies you cried 1st 2 times but accidently gave laughing emojies last 2 times... was it actually an accident?
I hope that in this year's Christmas special, we get a bit of closure of some sort. Any kind. That would help. Or when he regenerates, he sees her like 11 saw Amelia.
@@emoriyeet2999 you got your wish :')
You know i just realised something by watching this clip. Clara is the only one that i know of that the Doctor forgets. He hasn't forgotten anyone before. He even revisits some of them as ten before he regenerates. But never forgot anyone he ran with, did he ? I might be wrong though because I haven't seen the Classic Who but at least in the new series he hasn't really forgotten anyone. And that makes this moment, for me at least, that much more heartbreaking. I loved Clara and seeing her disappear this way is way too emotional even for this show.
He only forgot her face, he can remember their adventures and what they lived together but not the face of the woman who was with him.
*slams entire head on memory device after watching The Timeless Child*
Remember when this used to be the bane of the fandom, simpler times 😂 actually quite good now in hindsight, shame the hybrid arc didn’t rly meet expectations but this is a lovely scene!
Say what you want about this doctor and companion but you'd be a fool to deny that these 2 actors are the best in history to play a doctor and companion.
They really are
12345 6789 Second best: only behind 6 and Peri. You must be a Newhovian.
@Dark Knight You are right about Peri but Capaldi is a better actor than Baker.
CEZMARK Baker didn’t time to ferment and he’s considered the best in the Big Finish series. That statement is easily debatable.
Capaldi will be remembered as one of the best Doctors, I adored him ❤️❤️❤️
Clara was my favorite companion and 12 is my favorite Doctor, this breaks my heart every single time
“Look how far I went, for fear of losing you. This has to stop, one of us has to go.”
"Never be cruel... And never be cowardly.... And if you ever are, always make amends."
"Don't eat pears, they're too squishy" ahahahhahaha XD
I want Clara back!!!😩😩😩😭😭😭
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Yup!
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Here, children, you can see the fall of a great man, the greatest Doctor, and a great person. We will always remember when the Doctor was him.
Peter's voice change at 2:53 to 3:09 seriously broke my heart into so many tiny pieces
A beautiful episode. Clara was amazing, and Jenna was the most talented actress to play a companion since Louise Jameson.
Well, Sophie Aldred was pretty good, too.
This is the most emotional farewell EVER!
No, it's not. I laughed at Adric's death, and I found that more emotional than this.
The Clara story arc is the best in the series. Such incredible writing.
The Impossible Girl.
It’s absolutely amazing.
And Peter Capaldi could be the best Dr.
So glad his memory of her got restored. This was just cruel
I didnt understand why they did that
2:47
"Never eat Pears, they're too squishy, and they always make your chin wet. That one's quite important, write it down."
I'm eating a Pear right now, and I can confirm this statement... :P
People hate on this episode wayyy tooo much. I've seen people complain about Gallifrey not being the forefront, or hating Clara, or hating that she was brought back, or saying that this somehow proved that the Doctor cares more about Clara than the rest of his companions. So I'm gonna attempt to answer these complaints. Here goes.
1. 12 is a particularly vulnerable Doctor. He spends season 8 distancing himself from everyone, being grumpy and an all round annoying person. But when he finally let's his guard down in Death in Heaven, he's ready to go to hell because he can't bear to see his companion in distress. Then in Last Christmas he is willing to go to great lengths to save his companion and even the dream base's scientists. He even pleas with her to come back to the Tardis. This vulnerable side is on full display in Series 9. He spares Missy even after she tried to get him to kill Clara, he shows Davros mercy in a way only he could. He even developed a quick fond relationship with Cass in Under the Lake. But then comes the bombshell. He literally brought Ashildr back to life because he considered himself responsible for her death. This man is vulnerable, more so than all the other Doctors, even if he tries to hide. He was always going to fight to bring Clara back. Even in series 10, Bill is extremely important to him. He literally kind of brings her back to life twice in Oxygen, causing himself to go blind. He even tries to reverse the Cyberman Bill, which he knows is impossible. This is the Doctor who cares the most.
2. His desperation and fear of losing his companions has been building up all the time. 10 started on this path in the Waters of Mars. After losing Donna, and Rose, he decides to fight time itself to save Adelaide. Then 11 is furious at the universe for taking the Ponds away from him. Clara is the one who restores his faith, similar to Rose after the Time War. 12 just reached the Saturation Point. This was when he said, no more, to the universe. No more deaths. No more friends lost. He became the Time Lord Victorious once again. His frustration and anger at the Universe manifesting in his desperation to save Clara. Thus, he decides that he would never endure the loss of a companion again.
3. 12 loves Clara. Yes. This has been in the making. Clara was the one who rejuvenated his curiosity and faith after losing the Ponds. She saved him in the Dalek Asylum, she saved him countless times in the Name of the Doctor (I'm glad this was retconned in Time of the Doctor). He even accepts that he fancied her in Deep Breath. They are two companions who have always pushed each other, the only pair apart from 10 and Donna who have travelled as equals. He loves Clara in a much deeper way than humans can comprehend I think. It isn't romantic, it isn't sexual, it isn't brotherly. It is a deep connection of trust and commitment. They most likely say this to each other in the Cloisters, the part we never see or hear. So it is no surprise that he'd save her. He has a Duty of Care to her.
4. Gallifre should never be the forefront of an episode. Then we get a boring ass episode with old, self righteous and pompously arrogant men bickering over trivial matters (yes that description includes the Doctkr too). Only Trial of A TimeLord was an interesting episode, and that too cos it was about the Valeyard. Classic Who has always tried this, Gallifrey, is boring.
So, there it is. Long comment, i know, but necessary, i think. Binging 12s run helps in comnecting more to these stories I think, cos they're much more thematically connected than the rest
I don't care if other people hated Clara, she was damn good, and this was so sad. Just so damn sad......
"It's OK... don't you worry... I'll remember it."
And he does remember it too before he regenerates 😢
Whether you like Clara or not, whether you like 12 or not(actually 12 is the best doctor), whether you like Hell Bent or not, you can't deny (you're a fool if you do), that Peter and Jenna are the best actors to play a Doctor-Companion duo. And Maisie holding her own against them both, especially Peter... is commendable!
Clara had the perfect ending in Face The Raven... This was milking it.
Moffat seriously needs to learn when to let go of his characters & not bring them back.
Oh yeah, because the Doctor wouldn't stop going on about Amy in Series 7B and in Series 8 she came back and the Doctor fixed her up with a copy of himself.
This was clearly part of an intended story arc so I don't think you can lay that charge at Moffat's door.
oli will Totally agree mate
honestly she should have left back in the Christmas special
The Doctor never talked about Amy in Series 7B. There were a few references to her but she was never mentioned. Only by Peter Capaldi in Deep Breath as a joke about Clara having shorter legs than Amy.
The 10th Doctor always went on about Rose when she wasn't actually that great.
oli will
*RTD constantly mentions Rose in series 3, brings her back as well as Martha in series 4, and brings them all back for fanservice in The End Of Time*
Fans: OMG the RTD era is awesome! Bringing back these characters!
*Amy is mentioned, like, twice after she left. Clara comes back in one episode and is mentioned once in series 10*
Fans: OMG the Moffat era is absolutely awful! The show is dead! #10thDoctorForLife!!!
I realize only now the final words he says to her was also the words he says to the 13th Doctor before she arrives
Peter Capaldi, the best actor of all time
He remembered her though… in “The Giggle”
Beccause in capaldis last episode, the glass avatars gave him his memory back
I don't know why Clara got so much flack. I thought she was a great companion.
She is the Impossible Girl. Loved the Doctor so much that she gave 5 billion years of existence to help, save and care for her Doctors.
"Look how far I went, for fear of losing you" oh my goddddd 😭😭😭❤
I love Clara as company for the Doctor. She was know him really well and she could fool him too. I love her personality and kind of relationship between her and Doctor that was more than friendship ,but that wasn't romance either.
At least he remembered to subscribe to the official doctor who UA-cam channel...
His reasoning to forget or be forgotten is true and quite sad, it's unfortunate to waste the majority of your lifetime to bring someone back that is worth half the lifetime of the universe, but fortunate that you are able to forget and move on as you sometimes need to release that one thing you want to hold onto so badly, to make room for more things to remember, they might not be as heavy as the one you had to let go, but it can be as close to it as possible
I seriously do not understand why some people hate Clara. After the 11th Doctor stucked in Trenzalore for almost 900 years and regenerated into 12th Doctor, he became less humane, less compassion, grumpy and mean. It's Clara that brings back his humane side again. And he only has Clara by her side, giving his grumpy as hell attitude. Of course the Doctor will breaks all his rules to save Clara, not only because he cares about her, but also because he was betrayed by the Time Lords. Tricking him into this Raven adventure just to let him confess about the Hybrid, literally imprisoned him for billion years, who wouldn't be angry with that? The Doctor is lucky enough to have Clara to stop him becomes a monster/warrior. Given a normal human being betrayed by his own people and imprisoned for so many years, he/she will turn nuts and insane. I can totally understand the storyline here and I personally think that it was well written.
I LOVE Clara, unlike all the previous companions, her plot relevance is not saving the Earth (Martha), the universe (Rose, Donna), or clearing her mind and her own life while traveling with the Doctor (Amy-Rory), and it is that Clara, EXISTS to help the doctor (literally, more considering The Name of the Doctor). This is seen everywhere, from the prequel episode of The Bells of Saint John, with a Clara of about 9 or 10 years, to the Clara we see in this episode, who even in her last moments, cares about The Doctor more than any other companion, before worrying that she is about to die.
If you think about it, she is the first partner of her kind (I've only seen the modern series), and it is that Rose or Donna, they left everything behind, and then, they had their regrets and doubts, Martha was able to move away before the situation got worse, while Amy also left everything to go with the Doctor, but she took the most important thing in her life with her, and that was Rory. But Clara, Clara in the beginning, was a kind of weekly companion, who tried to lead a normal life and travel with the doctor at the same time; Then the Danny Pink thing happened, and yes, it affected her a lot (something like Martha and her family in series 3), but then she traveled with the doctor again, and each time she was a character more and more stronger. And yes, Clara's death at first was a bit disappointing, but the twist that comes after is something unique and fantastic, only the hand of Steven Moffat could achieve it
She has been (in my opinion) the best companion, and the best to understand the Doctor, that of Matt Smith, but especially that of Peter Capaldi.
Well, she said so, "Clara Oswald for the win"
PD: her outfits were very cool, I liked them a lot
I haven't seen Hell Bent, but this shows how good Doctor Who can be and why it can cause tears for the many fans.
I'm one of the few people who actually loved Hell Bent. After all this time we finally returned to Gallifrey, we saw Rassilon stand of with The Doctor, and those last scenes in the original TARDIS with The Doctor dressed kind of like Hartnell just made it for me. I actually hope that Chris Chibnall's new Doctor wears a Hartnell-esque costume and the TARDIS is the original. They did say they wanted a clean slate, how better to continue the story with the original TARDIS set and a classic costume?
I didnt even realize that it was the original TARDIS until after I saw the Christmas Special where 12 and 1 met
Well this comment aged like milk
...yeah, this is a big oof
@@TheRattytat Bro it aged like Milk left out in the desert.
Clara: the first face 12th saw and would forget that face for a long time.
"You look at me and You can't see me. Do you know how that feels Clara?" ....Well know she does...Damn it BBC why do you do this to us? I'm gonna go cry in the corner now.
The way he grabs the console for support at 2:20 breaks my heart 😢
so if the doctor forgot every moment with clara then that would mean he would've thought he was still matt smith
Nah he remembers the events (he was telling them to Clara when she was a waitress) he just doesn’t remember her. What she looks like, the type of person she is, her personal background and history. That sorta thing
@@thomaspetch995 yeah i figured this out a few months ago but thanks for explaining it to me
@@TheSilencerr just realised how long ago your first comment was 😂
@@thomaspetch995 I think that was the first time I had watched the ep so I must not have heard the part when he explained that he remembered their adventures but he couldn't remember her.
The one hope I have with this is that Peter hinted at a con that the Doctor may not have entirely forgotten Clara. Sp there's hope for us Clara fans. :)
Rewatching series 7 after this scene is just heart wrenching.
Clara has been the target of way too much fanboy rage , partly I think , because she became closer to The Doctor than any other companion ever has , River Song included .
This is my favourite finale tbh
I remember how hard I cried when I watched this for the first time. I was alone in my room, and watched it, and was still crying an hour later. Still the saddest scene in who for me.
"Smile for me go on Clara Oswald one last time"
Aw Damn man come on😭
I really hope Capaldi's final goodbye is half as moving as his 'never be cruel, never be cowardly' speech to Clara here.
You were right...
“Never eat pears. They’re too squishy and they always make your chin weird. That one’s quite important write it down!”
Please don't go Peter, please 😢
This love hurts so much. I always cry here. Even when he makes the joke about eating pears he's choking up.
I think I rather die than be forgotten by the Doctor. My poor Clara :( I remeber I got actually depressed after this episode, for days!! I had to watch the series finale more than Ten times to get over it.
'Clara's Farewell' playing in the background is too much for my already weakened heart 😭😭😭😭 💙💙
i just watched 2 sad films back to back + this clip my emotions are just about done today
Oh my gosh I just found something out:
The Doctor (The Tennant one) hated pears and the thing is that it was technically not canon, as it was cut out and only on some DVD extras or so. He talked about this in a Nerdist Podcast...
AND NOW IT'S FINALLY CONFIRMED!!!
"Run you clever boy.... and _remember"_
I hope DW never ends, it was around when my parents were alive, and my children, my daughter has been a fan since age three, she is now eight, my favourite all time show
the sad thing is i think she was the best companion
This is not the first time I've watched this scene. And I don't even LIKE Clara.. yet I am bawling. Like a lot. THAT is how amazing 12 is and how much I love him. This is so gutwrenching. I won't be able to keep it together when he dies.
I cried so bad. I love this show
i like Amy Pond and Clara Oswald
Rory?!?!?!
"no stop it, you're saying goodbye. don't say goodbye!"
Capaldi really was the best to do this, wasn’t he?
i totally forgot that Ishildr was here until 2:17! 12 and Clara have so much chemistry and gravitas in this scene!
Anyone feel this speech is similar to his regeneration speech
Who came here after The pilot episode, when the doctor tried to erase Bill's memory