Why Many Rural Americans Still Don’t Have Reliable Internet | WSJ
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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2020
- As many schools around the country start the year virtually, residents in rural communities like those in West Virginia are asking why they don’t have reliable Internet service. The recent bankruptcy of Frontier Communications provides insight into how U.S. broadband policies have fallen short for many Americans. Photo Illustration: Carlos Waters/ Video: Jake Nicol/WSJ
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$130 for that speed!?
She’s being robbed!
If she is robbed why don't you start your own broadband company and make a killing?
I pay twice that.. rural internet service is trash
@@chipsammich2078 Yes but there are benefits for being in a rural area also. Using the government to force others to pay so the cat videos load faster isn't civil in my book.
@@Nuganics the providers will sue you if you try. This is why it's hard to pull off.
@@shanewillbur1325 : Unless there is a government enforced monopoly (nothing to do with free markets) they can't do anything. If we want to solve this remove the government enforced monopoly and let people create solutions.
5:20 $130/month for barely 1mbps?! Seems kinda like a rip off if you ask me
For big cities it’s expensive, but for rural area this is the normal price
Satellite Internet (ViaStat, HighesNet, etc) charge even more. Last time I had Sat. Internet 4 years ago, I paid $160/mo. for 25mbps and a 30GB/mo cap.
"Kinda...?" An ABSOLUTE rip-off! Frontier Communications is the worst, and the FCC hasn't helped like it should. Sorry, Mr. Pai.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Happy to have Verizon's 4G LTE, though!
Supply and demand.
Elon is on his way to save them
Im in the US. I’m a network engineer. I live near a major city. I was recently looking for a new house. If I looked out in the country, about 50 miles out, the Internet speeds available are too slow to non existent. Despite wanting to live in the country, we bought in the city limits, so we can work at home. We need “fast” internet the same as our other utilities. Yet in the US our current policies don’t view Internet as a utility. The big corporate lobbyists have gotten one of their own in charge a d adopted policies friendly to large Capitalist Corporations who only want to maximize profit. So, fast connections are run to concentrations of customers who can pay more. Such is pure Capitalism and a free market - free from being taxed, regulated, and being concerned about fairness and the good of society.
Not to say capitalism is a bad economic system, though. Socialism would be way more horrendous! However, capitalism does need some social programs to add a human touch to it.
Some of us who live in the country don’t want things that would attract city folk to flood our rural area and turn it suburban. You want to live rural, but you want to bring the amenities of the city with you.
You just repeated what they said but made it more political.
Like me I live 1 mile from nearby town still can't get decent speeds
My current internet bravado wireless I pay $70 but 3G is going away pretty soon 😢 I have 3G/4G modem I noticed it takes longer to connect to 3G Serial
If people stopped paying for cellular internet, then the isps would be forced to expand the cable network acress the country. Then people would be able to get better internet. Only problem is, people are too cheap to pay for it.
Me watching this in a third world country
The US is a third world country.
US is not a first world country
Lol same here
Australia: Imma end your career.
And we know USA is a first world country
SpaceX: It's my time to shine.
They said in the video that satellite internet suk when the weather is bad.
not anytime soon
@@animewatch4213 Starlink isn't the same as other sattelite networks.
@@pagetwentyone a couple more years
@@animewatch4213 - Starlink uses lower frequency bands than Hughes
I moved to Denver from a small town in Pennsylvania about a year ago, and was able to get a Gigabit connection. Sice my company ordered everyone to work from home, it has been essential for my job as a full stack web developer.
My parents tried to convince me to move back home temporarily to wait out the pandemic. I literally can't do my job with their 3Mbps frontier connection.
Growing up, we had dialup and satellite internet at various points. Satellite was by far the worst internet experience I've ever had.
Dedicated internet.
In my home in a rural area in China, i got 100Mbps broadband with subscription fee around 18 USD a year. But i think this will get more expensive since it is a special price due to severe competition between carriers.
You people are way ahead of the world in so many ways! Be careful of jealous people.
百兆光纤160一年，你确定用的是光纤吗？
@@lucasinindia258 对啊 是光纤
Lucas in India乐卡思 村村通是很便宜的
But honestly bro you don't even have access to real internet!
FYI: Frontier sold off a LOT of their DSL service areas to Ziply Fiber long before the 'rona showed up.
Yes zippy also added all fiber when Frontier sold must be really great.
Third world countries in Asia have better internet that most of America...
Elon will save the day
@@leonesperanza3672 ah yes just wait for jesus to sovle everything
strange, I would have thought they would be ahead in mobile networks but not internet...... anyhow it's called leapfrogging.. coming to the party late means you can adopt new technologies easily
It's rural America guys...rural areas the world over always don't get as good network coverage by telcos and ISPs
Sad but true. I live in Thailand and the whole country has hi-speed internet one way or the other.
In Ireland, ESB an electrical utility company and Vodafone a mobile carrier created a joint venture called SIRO which provides 100% fibre optic network to be leased to ISPs, using Vodafone’s knowledge of internet and use of infrastructure of ESB, a lot of Ireland is going straight from 5mbs to 1000mbs in rural areas
I think part of the problem is how large the US is. Much harder to execute at massive scale.
@@mehtabbhogal5591 but these rural homes are connected to the electric grid. Why don't ISPs work with the power utility companies and build on the grid infrastructure?
@@hydrolifetech7911 Seems simple, but it's a mix of unregulated and regulated assets and services, rate-setting, and other obstacles that keep that from happening! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@gus473 not sure but I think the grid in the US belongs to the government and the energy utility companies own the power(I am not an American and don't understand well how electricity distribution and ownership in the US work. So excuse any of my inaccuracies). I think the government can make the grid accessible to ISPs to build the fibre connections on top of it. Or if the grid is owned by private companies, the government can subsidize the charges demanded by these energy utility companies as I am certain that the cost of the subsidies will be dwarfed by the contribution to the GDP realized due to internet connectivity of these rural areas. This economic contribution will in turn translate to more taxes collected to cover the costs of the subsidies
@@hydrolifetech7911 I think the US Government is building its own network which I saw @thatsnazzyiphoneguy report on which I think is supposed to be similar to Openreach here in the UK except owned by the government instead of a telecomunications business.
I also do believe that the electricity is owned by the government but is leased out to the energy company operating on a franchise with the local government to provide electricity which I pressume is why so many electricity companies owned tramway operators up until the 1930s when FDR forced them to sell tramway operations and hold 0% stakes in tramways thus forcing many to close.
I moved to rural India last month and my internet is pretty decent (4G connection on a Wifi-enabled dongle). Yes its not as fast as my broadband in Bangalore or in France but its a LOT better than it was 2 years ago. I pay $2.06 for 30GB so I'm not complaining :p
I think everyone in the world should have access to internet, its that important in this age!
I get 7.2Mbps if you must know
64 Mbps - 80 Mbps 4G Mobile Broadband
SRI LANKA
300Mbps symmetric via fibre for about $6 per month here in Romania (or about $8 for 1Gbps) and you can get it in even the smallest villages.
Wow 😳 👍
@@jonathanmelhuish4530 That's great. I pay 9 euros a month in France for such a connection (common wifi) which could be 25 euros+ for an independent connection but things are unnecessarily expensive in Western Europe. Romania sounds like a heaven :D
@@jonathanmelhuish4530 that's some sci-fi stuff right there! I pay $40/month for 10mpbs up and down here in Nairobi, our nation's capital. I pay over 6x what you pay and still get 1/30 of your speed
Maybe moving to more populated areas could be a good idea...
Somehow, they never seem to think of that
Why is the US government so rich but not trying to solve these problems? It is hard to imagine that such problems will happen in the United States. I am in a rural area in northern China and I can get 200Mbps broadband at an annual subscription fee of $60. This benefited from the government's "Fiber to the Home" project.
1. America is huge
2. Infrastructure is expensive
3. Return on investment in low density areas isn’t there
Satellite internet is the solution (like Starlink)
Huge is fine. We built the freeway system, as well as the train system. Wired Electricity everywhere. We can build the infrastructure. If electricity was wired with the same hangups, we wouldn't have gotten it nationwide
The US and China are the same size! For all the The US is too big crowd! Stop making excuses for your country's failure! The same ?logic could have been made for the interstate and electricity. The US could provide broadband nationally if your government chose to make the infrastructure investment needed like they used to in the past. Instead of tax breaks to the wealthy so the richest 3 Americans have more wealth than 150million of their fellow Americans.
@@tallest4eva they don't physically have the money that they can just access from a bank account. the net worth of those 3 people is just the value of those assets that they happen to own. sure they're rich but they aren't leaving millions in a bank account thats for sure. Jeff Bezos' entire wealth (well most of it) comes from his partial ownership of Amazon.com LLC and most of William H. Gates wealth comes from his stakes in Berkshire Hathaway (barely any of his wealth comes from Microsoft anymore).
@@wclifton968gameplaystutorials you are so wrong, their wealth were came from poor people, not from their own company.
All invalid excuses
I live in Mansfield GA, and this is our situation, too. It’s really crazy.
USA: the greatest nation on Earth.
Rural USA: We are worse than the nation you bombed last in 2010.
I live out in the Finger Lakes Region of New York and we just gained access to Fios after 10+ years of only having dialup. I completed my paralegal certification and MPA using only a hotspot from my bedroom (where I have service). COVID-19 has highlighted the flaws in our public infrastructure. However, even with Fios now, many in my area can not afford broadband even if it becomes available.
I’m hurt that they started to mention electric co-ops but then cut the video off. It’s a hybrid between public and private and was used to electrify most of rural America. There are some co-ops that have expanded from electricity into fiber optic internet. Ozarks Electric in Northwest Arkansas has created OzarksGo, a competitively priced Gig level ISP.
They are doing the same in central texas
I live in rural area and some places you can’t even get cell phone service just a landline .
It's a problem the world over...
well because land are cheap but it too far out that most serivce don't existance.
So what.. They have huge economy... They can cover that..
ISURU THIWANKA the Yanks have environmental laws covering huge portions of the USA...they are always going to gaps in service if they keep using towers
And part of the problem is the FCC sells licencing of specific areas (zones) and during the Bush's administration the FCC cut up the zones to even smaller sections and increased the licensing fees. I use to have 4 major cellphone carriers at my house, now none. And Frontier was my landline phone and DSL provider, now Spotify. I pay over $100/mo for landline phone with DSL running at +-2mb download and .8mb upload speeds. Yet 30 miles from me prices are in the $40 range with much much higher speeds.
Spotify is an isp?
@@BoltRM Oops...Ziply, they replaced Frontier throughout the NorthWest and provide landline phone...thus DSL too. Don't know why I got Spotify in my thinking. (Getting old is no fun)
If people stopped paying for cellular internet, then the isps would be forced to expand the cable network acress the country. Then people would be able to get better internet. Only problem is, people are too cheap to pay for it.
In the city I have two provider's fighting for my business with speeds up to 1 gig. My place out of town nothing but over price hot spots that are not reliable. Cost me 70 for 22 gig of data a month. Forget streaming movies.
Uh, because it costs a lot to get the fiber the miles between homes that are required in rural areas. In cities, it is easy, because you can serve 500 people in a square mile. But when it is 10 in an area it costs more. Why does the peaceful living that is in rural areas need to be subsidized?
Education - the future belongs to the country with the best brains. If we don't educate the rural kids they will be unemployable. BTW fiber is cheap and easily to install
Jim Pad US has 93% 4G penetration, what people fail to understand is how sparsely populated and large US is. Even in this video, the commentator says that some houses get connection while others don’t, that’s because of the distance between them and the terrain. It’s not because of it not being treated as a utility, it’s just more difficult to provide wired internet to a plave with a population density of 2 per sqmi. And again 4G mobile coverage isn’t the issue, broadband is.
Indonesian who live in the middle of the ocean in tiny island "first time?"
I’m lucky to be in frontier’s fiber connections and being really close to one of their centers as it’s very reliable
Simple. Grant the power utility the right to offer broadband. They can pull fiber and backhaul their traffic. And they own their right of way with their utility poles. Enough with monopolies if they can service their footprint.
Ding ding ding! The power utilities don't even need to run the network side of things. They literally just need to run the fiber cable itself to all properties that get electric service. ISPs can then lease it on a per customer basis. That's what Salt Lake City does, and as a result everyone has two DOZEN ISPs to choose from.
@@thelight3112 Well, point taken. You need to take into account that those Power Utility Lines consists of Rights of Way. Therefore they have the grandfathered rights to actually dispose of them as they see fit, unless the State's Regulatory Body has a saying in it.
They got it right in Utah, it might not go so smoothly elsewhere.
If people stopped paying for cellular internet, then the isps would be forced to expand the cable network acress the country. Then people would be able to get better internet. Only problem is, people are too cheap to pay for it.
Frontier’s never going to change. None of these companies are going to change. Straight up, it would be a more prudent move for the FCC to take all of that money and just start building their own network. And that’s not even a crazy idea. Every time municipalities have build their own network, EVERYONE (regardless of your provider) in that area see lower prices and faster speeds. I think there’s also some responsibility that needs to be born by the states, because the know they’ve been having this issue but have elected to sit on their a**.
It'll be a crazy idea as all the officials will be booted out😜
I’m literally on the outskirts of a medium sized city in Cali and the only cable I could get is Front-trash-tier 1mbps for $45/mo. I had to get a mobile hotspot just to get 10 mbps, it costs $100/mo and who knows when it’ll get shut down
In Spain we have a Government program to subsidize deployment of fiber in rural areas. Telefónica, the incumbent operator, invested heavily on fiber (FTTH) and now is using this program to reach rural areas (they are closing all copper switchboards and replacing them with fiber), along with other operators, of course. Orange is another operator that's relying heavily on this program. Also, in the region of Asturias there is a regional public entity which deploys a neutral network when there isn't interest by private operators (currently up to 100 Mbps). Speaking of Telefónica, with this program they are reaching even the smallest villages with 600 Mbps symmetrical (and soon 1 Gbps symmetrical). We had years of very poor internet service, but the situation improved drastically over the past few years. Also, to help reduce prices, when Telefónica is the only operator, it is forced to allow other operators to rent their network to offer services
Of course the United States is much bigger than Spain, but just for the sake of comparison
Hopefully Starlink will be able to fix this issue soon.
I’m skeptical of Musk nowadays. His boring company was a farce to force people to buy Tesla’s instead of building subways. During COVID he violated shutdown orders to strong-arm his employees into returning to work. He’s threatening to move his companies out of California because of taxes.
Maybe starlink will be amazing and consumer friendly... but I have my doubts.
@@lilacdoe7945 Boring company is supposed to complete its first job by the end of the year.
@@rye811 Boring is another stupid sci fi venture that will horribly fail.
Plus we use optical fibers to give lower latency Internet connections. Starlink can't compete with modern day optical fibers. Period.
aaron stone bring optical fiber to Rural Africa, cruise ships, forward military posts. Boring company is the least sci-fi company in Elon’s basket. It’s tunnel digging for cheaper, we’ll have to wait and see if it fails, but seeing as Elon has nothing to date that has failed, it’s unlikely.
@@aaronstone6183 I sure would like to have fiber. Hook me up here in mid Missouri.
My word, $130 for 1mbps. In India we have 200mbps for ₹999 ($13) even in Tier-3 cities. The government is planning to provide WiFi facility to everyone at minimum price.
Last time I was this early internet was not a thing
I'm glad I am in the city. A fiber optic node is about 200 feet from me and I have fiber right into my home. I love watching 4k videos on my smart TV. Lately I've been bingewatching The Rockford Files free on peacock. I'm up to the 5th season now.
It is a crime. it feels like paying to say you have internet but without actually having internet access.
my parents and i literally live in the middle of nowhere, where we have internet, but only 1/4 of the time. its been off and on all month and according to fronTEARS, the wifi was “updating”. yeah i dont see any sign of updates.
Pittsford MI 49271
Frontier ADSL2 only has 6 Mbps. It is hard to do anything with Frontier as its based off how far from the central office. They did a network upgrade last year but guess what. Still same 6 Mbps. Nothing faster. No improvements yet speed is mostly consistent and 30 ms ping but the FFC really needs to investigate Frontier ADSL2 and really see what they can do to get faster speeds to us like adding remote terminals. But notting has really been said about trying to add them getting customers closer and offering higher speeds.
Is there a follow-up video on this topic? Need to continue pushing to help those without reliable internet!
In China, they have 5G/high speed internet covered in whole Tibet
Tibet has others problems than internet speed ... I don't think 5G is what they are looking for
curious what role politicians have played in this, and if any are benefiting by either keeping it out, or getting in.
A lot of politicians would LOVE it if there was no Internet to spread word of their nefarious deeds.
Most politicians are dumber than posts and swallow the BS from telcos whole.
no internet, cant do research or fact check= believe my lies= Vote
Same problem here. sometimes its not just the terrain I live very close to the city and m area is still considered rural. No service except for cellphone hotspots. very limited and expensive.
Meanwhile in India you can get 3.3 TB internet for 6 dollars at 50 Mbps speed and you can stream 4k for an entire month.
India's broadband is improving at a great pace ....
3.3TB internet? LOL. you should learn more about internet. there is no 3.3TB TB is not even a internet measurment its Tb. and Tb is literally not a thing lol. fastest internet you can get at home is as of now still 10Gb. counts for the whole world. and even 10Gb is not possible literally 80% of the countries around the world. you probably mean data cap if that is the case then sure you can get 3.3TB data cap. but that is not the bandwidth.
3:14 your map is missing half of Michigan... the most rural part also... nice
How can you make this video and not talk about StarLink?
Might be working on a whole video for the segment?
Mainstream media still has no idea what Elon Musk is doing.
@@American_Energy
Reason is at the Current Satellite Manufacturing Speed of 120 a month (not including launching), it'll take another 10 years before you can network the required 12000 satellites.
By then rest of world will be in 6G.
Starlink is prioritized to places with O internet infrastructure, like rural africa.
Starlink is 2g at best, around 256kbps. Only suitable for no connectivity or total blackout scenarios.
I get around 60 - 70 Mbps here in India for $11 a month on wired internet. And about 25 - 30 Mbps on wireless.
wow.... just wow.. I hate my country!
Went to visit my cousin in NC in the rural Appalachia’s and their only option is satellite 📡 internet and they are paying $320 monthly for just 5 Mbps downloads and 0.5 upload speed and they had data caps so they got mad at me I used up their monthly amount in 2 days by just being on Spotify Instagram Netflix etc. I was so used to comcast I thought everyone had fast internet like that thought it was the standard but I guess not felt like I was in a 3rd world country for them to be paying those prices like that and for that lack of service 😔
then I have a question, might be a dumb question. why people still live in rural area if internet connection is such a pain?
Watching this from Westminster district (central London) on a mobile network (4G) - during the day downloads speed tops 12Mbits... no broadband/fibre available for flat I rent...
Hi from hilly Indian rural area with 4g.
Please don't say go and build toilets as I have 4 toilets in my home 😊
Strange flex, but okay.
I appreciate the snark :)
(Chinese brother here)
I thought you guys still used smoke signals
This is still a problem two years after this video. I live 5 minutes north of a small city which is itself 10 minutes north of one of the largest cities in the state, and I have only ONE provider for internet, and it is not reliable, AND costs twice what standard cable can provide. The cable provider that claims to serve my area stops service 1/2 mile from my house and will not come any further. I have to get my internet through a wireless dish. Unacceptable in my opinion.
In Venezuela internet was declared a public utility. Look how that went.
The simple solution is to spin fiber on power lines. That will get you at least to hubs. It will also work the last mile, but it will be expensive for the customer.
Not really - fiber is cheap
I live in the British Countryside and my internet speed is just as fast as if I lived in London.
uk population density: 278/sqkm
us population density: 34/sqkm
that makes a huge difference in what it takes to provide service everywhere to everyone.
I hope when Starlink hits mainstream markets they offer lower rates to these kind of people in rural areas
Time to think USA as developing country.
America is huge, near the size of Europe. If this is your definition of a developing country then you don’t know much.
It's a third world country with first world economy.
they have been that since the existence of america in 1776. they are not a developed country in alot of things.
Same issues in Jamaica 😕
I live in a City in India. (Not a huge cosmopolitan city tho)
My Cellular bill is abt *$5.32 per month* (cycled every 28 days) which includes 60 GB high speed 4G data, Unlimited Calling and 3000 Sms' per month (100 sms daily).
Internet speed varies from 25-50Mbps depending on the time of the day and the network traffic. (Even tho its a 50Mbps network)
Internet prices have come crashing down in India since 2016 when Reliance Jio came in as a newer and more inexpensive alternative.
The same would had costed over $20, 5 yrs ago (still MUCH cheaper than most US carrier services).
is internet access a census question in 2020?
the last mile is always the most expensive, no?
having a high speed internet connection MUST be a census question!
None of it is expensive
I'm paying $49.99 (granted it's promotional pricing for a year) for 1000 mbps no cap ATT here in Irvine, CA. Regular price would be $75 per month. Xfinity charges $84.99. Also yes I know about the rural/urban divide. I went to college near in a small town in FL and I used to sell cellphone boosters when I worked for a mobile provider. They are absolute trash...
i pay 35 euros for 1Gbps the first half year. after that it will be 57.50 euro. i live in the netherlands.
I enjoy providing internet services to rural areas where big companies are not present. I believe everyone should have access to the internet regardless of where they live.
Why is no one talking about those shoes 👟 on a power line @0:23
Rumor has it, shoes on a power line signal the location of a drug dealer
Sorry for the ignorance but wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to set up something akin to a WISP in rural areas. Create a fibre backbone and a few high sites for an area and then have customers connect to the high site. The latency would be better than satellite and so would the costs.
I'm surprised they did not mention anything about Starlink.
i used to have a 1GB fiber connection at my old place. We moved to another place (it wasnt my choice) not even 15 mins away on a old highway and NOBODY services this area. No one. I have called every internet company I can think of. They all say that they dont service our area. We have Starlink and yes it works but its EXTREMELY unreliable. Especially with more than 8 people living under one roof. I am so tired of paying $170 a month for extremely slow speeds. You really cant do anything about it either because its the only option out here. It has been well over 5 years and they keep giving you the same BS answers. Its time that they start focusing on how to get broadband and fiber speeds to rural Americans. In the modern age high speed internet is no longer a luxury, its a necessity, same with smartphones, computers, and electrity.
In india jio telecom service have reliable speed but this Government owned BSNL has no network in heart of the cities. A probable internet connection in jio network in 1-4 mb/s and in bsnl 30kb/s - 1mb/s. This is the internet speed in cellphones not broadband.
The 157 million number Microsoft gives is likely the most accuate number of Americans that do not have access to broadband. I's quite shameful and embarrassing that half of the entire country is not connected.
I live in Brazil and I pay 20 dollars (120 reais in our currency) for a 120mbps broadband Internet plan (no data cap). Great latency and very reliable (always at 120mbps).
P.S. my Internet provider is Claro and plans of this price and speed are widely available in my many cities in my country.
I pay `75-80 USD for 3 down DSL RIP murica your dead
you will never get full 120Mbps. most likely it caps out at 115Mbps or even 110Mbps.
@@metalvideos1961 Depends on how they provision it
@@Noahvis4 no, no matter what speed you have you will never EVER get the speed you pay for. no matter what technology they use for internet
If people stopped paying for cellular internet, then the isps would be forced to expand the cable network acress the country. Then people would be able to get better internet. Only problem is, people are too cheap to pay for it.
Here's a tip for those who are in this position: If there's cable in your county but you're considered "not serviceable," contact one of the providers and ask for a "serviceability survey" or "site survey." This is where the company sends an employee out to figure out how close you are to their infrastructure. If you're close enough, you're considered "serviceable" - if not, they'll send out another crew to figure out how much it will cost to hook you up.
ok, I've spent WAY too much time on this. Does anyone know what laptop she is using? (5:20) I recognize the chassis, but can't match it to anything that I search for. My gut tells me it is some sort of gaming laptop like from Asus, but that speaker grill is very HP Envy. And then there is that middle oval power button that looks like it's also a fingerprint reader? This is killing me, but I need to sleep, lol. Hopefully someone answers this...
And I thought that Internet service here in Puerto Rico was mediocre. I recently upgraded to fiber with 100 MB and will pay somewhere between $45-$60 for Internet and basic cable.
Very interesting.
Frontier should be criminally charged with how bad their service is
If we and the USA found a telecommunications unicorn could this because perceived opportunity?
I have frontier in Ohio in supposed to get 2mbps but I don't even get 1mbps and it's like 110 dollars and going up
that's strange, like i am in the middle of siberian wasteland, in the town with 6000 population got optic fiber 30 mbps for 25 usd.
that is very very low speed for fiber optic. Fiber optic often starts at 100Mbps. 30Mbps is seen as ADSL.
@@metalvideos1961 100 mbps for 34 usd, 200 for 49. i just don't need 100 or more.
@@iommi1337 then you dont do much with internet.
How do you have a pc and able to video chat but no WiFi
They were in the mobile home they are renting for faster internet speeds.
They use the data of their phone. which is pretty expensive in the long run.
Government needs to make it a public utility service needs addressed again.
And for the first time in my life I hate a company more than anything else.
Meanwhile me in Romania tv cable+ 1gb optic fiber..15$ per month🤣🤣🤣
Back in india we've 1.5GB /day for 30 months at 139 rupees -- 139/70 or $2 with unlimited talk time...
@@hardikdubey4199 dirty 4G speeds due to spectrum and fiber laid down
Nice. 90 dollars here fast internet+cable 🙄
starlink : let me introduce myself
Maybe - starlink might be capacity restrained
this is not the scenario, Bandwidth is not enough
I paid 80$ for unlimited yearly subscription of my internet.Btw I am from Nepal.
almost 87% of households have an internet subscription, over 83% with broadband
Feeling blessed after watching this video about my internet speed. 60mbps Up 60mbps Down with only 10 USD per month with 3.3TB data cap in rural India.
Why isn’t there a satellite type solution. If it’s too expensive to wire why not go through the air?
Because satelite internet already exist for a long time. its called T1/T2/T3 internet. but its very slow. very high ping and not reliable.
Frontier is so horrible, we pay 200 for 5 mbps . the internet turnes of every hour and we have no options, the wifi that the school tries to give us doesnt work, and we are thoroughly screwed over. We drive 30 mins to my grandpas every day to go to scool lol
The greatest country on the world needs to live up to its name. This concerns all, no matter which political party.
They honestly don't care. They have amassed SO MUCH wealth and power they can keep the game running indefinitely. They will dole out a little gift here and there, when it suits them, knowing they have the entire system locked up.
5$ for 4g per month in India instead of 30$ the cheapest I could afford as being a student in usa opened my eyes. That developed world and developing nations are relative in specific areas.
Open your eyes to purchasing power and median income statistics too.
jio 4 USD for 4g 70mbps unlimited internet for india... now they are doing something new with jio fiber.... i dont know exactly but i heard that they are giving the tv box for free with remote free with 100mbps and something to do with smart tv stuff
Strangely, their financials point to churn being the primary driver for losing revenue. If the WSJ thesis is that customers don't have anyone else to choose from, where are these customers churning to?
You have access to high speed internet. Starlink is available across the U.S. Why not use it?
That's not true. The entirety of the Appalachian region is not within Starlink's serviceable locations. It's completely blacked out on their map. Which is sad because Appalachia is the least connected region in the US. I live in a rural county in Southwest Virginia and there is no broadband. There is nothing even relatively close to a 25/3 Mbps connections. In my neighborhood, 3/1 Mbps is the best you can get if you're lucky. I'm not so fortunate (1.5/0.5 Mbps). There is no fiber, cable, satellite, or fixed wireless technology avalible. Only DSL.
Some areas of the USA are so sparse cable wouldn’t be profitable. It’s ridiculous to compare South Korea to Kansas. 😂
Why does it have to be profitable when it serves a major economic and social purpose?
I live in rural Oklahoma and still don’t have WiFi
It's a well known fact that rural and some of suburban America is subsidies by bigger cities. The only reason they have water, electric and roads is because bigger cities pay far more taxes to federal government. It later gets redistributed to fund the infrastructure in such areas. Since electric and roads are under strict federal regulation it gets funded by those tax dollars, but internet does not. If big cities will stop subsidizing those rural areas they will literally become 3rd world countries.
imagine having a gaming pc yet only getting 1mbps wifi
Starlink starlink starlink 😢😢😢
Dial up modems: Allow us to introduce oursel-*dial up modem sounds*
My next job is here!
Home Fiber here is 100 Mbps
And cell network goes for upto 60 mbps
Maybe don’t live in rural area? Has it occurred to these people that services that have high fixed costs need a lot of people to spread out the cost to make it viable? And that this is not the characteristic of rural areas.
It reminds me of Australia and the rural folks there demanding their internet infrastructure be subsidized by city dwellers. Well it was your choice to live out in the sticks.
The cost of housing (not just in the US, globally) is increasing exponentially, while people are still being paid the same wages they were getting 30 years ago. For a lot of people, their only shot at owning land or a home (which is also the ONLY reliable way to get rich anymore) is in a rural area where they will have no services. So instead, people try to cram into coastal cities and then complain about crowding and homelessness.
Either rural areas need to be serviced so populations can spread out, or the population needs to be cut dramatically so that coastal cities are comfortable places to live for the ENTIRE population.
Home pricing in Rural areas can be anywhere from 22% to 50% cheaper than suburbs, and even better deal than the cities themselves. Property taxes are also often lower.
So maybe we should move the farms to the city so we can get good internet and grow your food?
Me, a rural Texan reading everyone's comments bragging about their connection speeds:🖕🏽🤬🖕🏽
Small corporate fiefdoms and the lobbying of our current administration will probably prevent this from happening but I would love to a commitment from the FCC to expand the telecommunications act to include fiber connections to all households to provide a better internet backbone
we need to get the pitchforks out!
If people stopped paying for cellular internet, then the isps would be forced to expand the cable network acress the country. Then people would be able to get better internet. Only problem is, people are too cheap to pay for it.
This is a great example of why we need a public utility to provide reliable high-speed internet to these communities. It will cost billions and never turn a profit, but the alternative is to leaves these regions, economies, and people behind as the world moves online.
Which ironically, is why we originally federally funded the USPS, because it wasn't intended to make money.
Well I feel like it would be more of like electric. It would turn a profit eventually (if they provided fiber) but not as quickly as corporations would expect..
@@Lazy2332 Electricity tariffs are by law has to be fair & reasonable, so consumers will not be fleeced. So we cover the investment cost if production units, plus labour cost, and usually 10% return on equity. In rural America, many electricity companies are cooperatives.
@@trapfethen USPS was never meant to, nor is now required to turn a profit. Just try to breakeven. USPS is in a good shape l, but Congress gave it a crazy mandate in 2006, which required it to (pre-fund) employees pension and healthcare for 70 years!!🤯 It's as if they hired me today, and I'm 30 years old, I will work for them until 65, (that's 35 years of service), and average male die at 80 years, or let's exaggerate and say at 85 USPS is supposed to stash away 70 years of pension. And USPS is deprived from using the profits they turned to developed their services, and let them to cut some of it. Then the press reports without knowing the details and say USPS have a pension crisis🤦♂️
No company ever operates under such mandates.
USPS have a role that tied the country together. It have positive externality effect as it delivers mail to every address in America. $10 billion e-commerce industry is built on the head of USPS.
@@HusseinDoha I am aware of the struggles the USPS has been saddled with thanks to congress. I was making the point that the reason the USPS began as a federally funded organization was that its reliability and access into rural areas was more important than it "breaking even". It was in fact deemed so important that it was afforded space in the original constitution. I was making the comparison between the USPS and broadband as to point out the reality of corporate lead shipping, the places that currently have difficulty with internet access would also likely experience super high prices or no access to a private shipping company should the US Government make the monumentally bad decision to privatize US mail.