Thanks for another update, 2 things are coming real clear with this, 1 your friend is a penny pinching truck operator and 2 if he's your friend wasting your time with junk donor frames, you need a better class of friend in your life ! I have no problem with your work or ethics you'll make this right, but man you'll be financing his operation doing this one with way to much un paid real value hours. That's even before you correct that other heap of scrap , that started this whole mess of you doing these projects . Take care guys.
you are right. i will have many unpaid hours, lots of unpaid consumables. loads of unpaid materials. what i will have is the peace of mind that he is in a good truck that will keep him and others around him safe. i dont want to get too personal about my friend but if you had the life that he has had.....i would do the same for you. i do get frustrated, but it wont stop me from doing the absolute best job i can. my standards dont change due to finances or time. it is what it is. i wish it could be done much faster and with less costs but it needs what it needs. when i said "i will build this truck the best way i knew how", i meant it. i will plug along on this truck just like i am building one of my own. appreciate you watching and commenting.
@@j.c.smithprojects i would count my blessings daily to have a friend like you. Very profound words and an even better work ethic. I keep telling my kids "its always nice to hear someone say I love you but a 1000% better if you show them" so say what you mean and mean what you say because the only thing you truly have in this life is your word. Great build, can hardly wait for the next video.
@@j.c.smithprojects Thanks for the reply, I know exactly where you are at I've done the same thing fixing tractors for friends/customers that were in trouble when life went a bit south. I always told them find the money for parts and pay me when they can. In the end they quit farming, and I enjoy their friendship way more now when I see then or their number on call display. The what's screwed up now and i should be doing other work feeling has gone away. I didn't realize how much it mentally stressed me out dealing with it either. when one quit I helped him clean up his yard as he's hurt his back bad, when the farm sold. He gave me a quite large amount of cash I never asked for a cent of, and said thanks for helping me the last few years, I'd of gone bankrupt as nobody else was going to help like I did, so he really did appreciate it way more than I thought he did.
So sad that you have to go thru all the extra work and time because he seems to want to go cheap, I'm so glad and proud to have you wanting to do it right for everyones safety on the road and carry the load the way it should be carried 👍
Reading both your comments as you said in the first video I ever watched ( the original video about completing someone else's work on the tanker ) you didn't want to put your name or reputation on someone else's shoddy work . At the very least this will have been done to a very high standard of workmanship that you know will be safe . Appreciated or not . Hopefully the client will ....
That plasma cutter cuts though that truck frame like butter. Sorry it’s been such a hassle to find the right frame, but I’m glad you can at least move forward with the project now.👍
You should name this water truck either 1) "The Hemorrhoid" for obvious reasons or 2) "Goldilocks" because all the frames were just not quite usable until you found one that was juuuust right 😂
JC, as much as you seem to be getting jerked around by this customer on this build, I have to say you have GOT to be the most patient man I have ever seen! Oh, and little lady, when he is using the plasma cutter, we can hardly hear anything you are saying. The mike is just too sensitive to the machine's noise.
Hopefully you get paid for all of this frustrating time that was wasted of yours. You guys are a great team. JC it's also nice to see that this level of quality work is still done today.
It's great to see a family unit working together and contributing with each other to do a job right the first time!! To say it's an honour it's also a privilege to see a Husband and Wife team working together to give back to friends and family as you have! It can be hard to see the payback when you're being generous and trying to do the job right! All the best from Canada
G'day JC,,,, I'm really enjoying these frame rebuilds ,, as ultimately, its all about integrity . Be it the integrity of the materials or even more importantly, the integrity of the builder / engineering. Your video's are always a source of great joy for me ,largely due to the teamwork , fine detail & consistency . Thanks very much for keeping the faithfull entertained,,, I'm always looking forward to your next episode . RESPECT ...!
Other than standing there watching you work and lending a hand , this is the best internship I’ve found for what I want to do. Certainly couldn’t afford the tuition.
Uhh, no sir.., did not enjoy seeing/hearing your grief. Very much appreciated your “as per usual” efforts to make “things” right, and be able to sleep soundly at at night. This has been a great video series, Thank you sir.
I've been looking forward to more on this project, thank you J.C.for sharing & taking us to school. U explain very well the how & why. I am very picky w/ my trks. + equipment & sure like Ur way of thinking, also enjoyed the "j" hook humor. 🙂
Your doing it right and your way . Do it right the first time and make the customer happy . Time is money and your doing a great job . Can't ask for anything better . Great video .
Since you will not build an inferior frame, time and effort spent finding the right parts is an investment in how well you'll sleep after it rolls out to work. You've mentions that this is for a "friend", I sure hope he realizes the effort and care that you've put into making it correct for him to use and not have problems, later. As usual your work is first rate, and a pleasure to watch.
Absolutely love your process and refusal to do sub par work or use sub par material. I swear we gotta be related JC...lol. I won't put my name on something that I can't do to my standards. Can't wait to see the next videos in this series. Keep up the awesome content
Great video J.C.Smith it's sad that all the frames your friend came up with fell short and wasted your time for 10 days. Now you've used one of your trucks to get the right frame for the job to get it done your way. Looking forward to your next video on this truck stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
What I was going to say--you got something hanging on the control handle to hold it down. When the remote coontrols came along --there were a godsend--even better when they became wireless. Even better when you are loading a roll off/tilt trailer aand you are by yourself and trying to guide a piece of equipement up on the bed. A lot of times--raininng or snowing or on the side of a bust road--makes it 10 times worse. Take care!
Always enjoy the detail and how you explain things. And I called my brother to talk about your latest vlog. It's a great time for us to talk about your quality and the way you do things. As always sending out a big thank you from the foothills of Mt Rainer, Washington state. Tell the Mrs we say hello. I hope Jeff is doing good. Take care my friend.
It’s sad and aggravating that you burned your time and fuel on unworthy frames. At least you know the frame you’ve got is straight and like you said it’s like starting over again on disassembly of the rear axle and suspension and preparation of the frame. Now that you’ve got a solid frame to work with this will be a better truck when you finish building it and safer truck for the customer and on the road. Your work ethic is awesome love what you do JC And Mrs JC. may you both have a Blessed One Sir.
Great idea using the roller fairleads on the saw horse to slide the frame along and keep it square. A lot of extra work for you but I totally understand that you are putting your reputation on the build so you can’t do that with a crooked frame. It will be a masterpiece when you are finished. Even if nobody ever sees it again, YOU will know that it was built the JC way and better than any custom truck shop
Honestly I don't know why you don't have more subscribers. This is good stuff. I know you want to treat this customer right but I would not only charge him for the frame but I would also charge him for time and effort spent running around retrieving bogus frames and maybe a little for the time having his truck tie up your shop space. Not trying to tell you how to run your business but honestly I would make it worth my while. Can't wait for the next one...
this is why i dont work on trucks for other people. this is the wrong truck to build from the start but this is what he has. i would have spent the money on a better suited truck to start with. then the scope of work is far more focused on "up fitting" and not making a "round beg square". it has been a "soup sandwich" from the word go.
You over doit so much and so meticulous it's almost comical that being said can't wait till you put something together that I can't live without keep up the good work and good content
I like it so much that you don't want to compensate for something you made even if the owner just wants it cobbled together with poor quality parts. you want to be proud of what you have made and stand for it being made as good as possible for you. that's how it SHOULD BE. totally TOP👍 done JC. By the way, I am also very curious about the video where you will make the positive and negative cutting template for that "puzzle piece" and how that would work in practice with cutting out the "puzzle piece" shape with the plasma cutter. I think this would give a super professional look as well. thanks for the video again JC and Mrs.Smith
the puzzle piece will come about on one of my builds. im sure it will push my skills beyond my capabilities but i think it is worth the stress and struggle.
JC, Ezrider359 says ya saved him a lot of headaches down the road with that tow truck. It’s nice to see Utubers helping each other out when they can. Cheers…
Your a better man than I would drug that half of truc k out of my shop told him when he gets financing and parts to come back and in 90 days the rest that I drug out goes to scrape unless he pays rent
Your point of using new frame rails early on in the job was an important point because it’s easier to weld and work with new frame rails. It’s easier to work with a new product. It may cost more money for the initial purchase, but the fact that you’re not stripping a used frame . Spending time locating, one . worrying about it being bent, in the Big picture it would’ve been cheaper and easier for you and you could return the truck to the customer faster doing your way .
I agree it would be easier to use new but not cheaper or faster . the new rails from pj adams would have been over $6500 with shipping and a 6 month wait. the least expensive i could find were only available in 20ft lengths and 2 weeks out. so it would have had to be spliced and it was mild steel. not actual frame rail. the cost with shipping was over $4400. so this was still the best option for me.
It’s a credit to your business sense to buy and have the quality of parts you have. At least you’ve minimized some of the additional work you would have had to put into a lesser quality replacement frame. Thanks
I'm thinking you've had to ask yourself at least once by now, how did I get myself into this? It's easy to get burnt out on something like that.... What you said about being tired of messing with junk, I've definitely been there...😃 It's looking good though...
not really. just more frustrated that it sat idle. once the frame is spliced, it should start moving much faster. fingers crossed there are no more major bumps in the road.
Boy it makes me really appreciate the things we have out here in the west! I can't believe how much rust is on those frames! All I can say is keep track of those hours and charge him for it!
Well the journey continues .. seems a lot of faffing about waiting for the guy to get his stuff sorted . Your saving the day but at a cost to you in down time and stripping 1 of your trucks down . Ok you say your charging him for the frame I'd be charging him for storage on the wasted time that front end has sat in your shop taking up space while he sources or attempts to source a frame . Shame it's just taking 10 days plus that you could have been finishing up the frame rails ..looking forward to following along thanks
Sir first and foremost I feel your frustrations with the frame and dealing with the outsourcing of the donor frame sadly all the lost time put into sourcing the frame and traveling is time and money that you can't reacoupe on the upside your getting the opportunity to use your new plasma cutter and welder side note when it comes to your personal trucks that you own do you have a invintory system that helps you keep track of them as you have several properties in which you store them and as you sell / part them out and dispose of them
just in my head and a file folder. i cant remember lots of things but i can tell what i paid for every truck i own as well as what i have spent or sold on each.
Good choice on using your frame! This customer would have a stroke if he had to buy new rails from PG Adams !! And your shop would have been tied up much longer.
@@j.c.smithprojects used to be Grove... 👍😎🇺🇸🏁. We'd go down to Green Castle n pick up two or three, swing over to Valk in Carlisle then head back up Rt11 to CNY cause there weren't any scales... Put it all on a Binder or Dodge, then we connected with a Chev dlr. We'd get a cab n chassis, put a hoist n body or rollback as a demonstrator. We had Mid Equipment n Grove rollbacks plus.... guess Mid Equip is gone...
I watched all 12 parts to your video, I am wanting to stretch a 1997 dodge dually to build a custom service truck but am having trouble finding anything on stretching pickups, the frames are not straight like 18 wheelers so unsure where to start
have you considered buying another dodge frame and cutting the donor at the back of the cab and yours at the forward leaf spring hanger on the drive axle?
That's horrid. Did the owner not know ya can order new custom blank rails (and otherparts like crossmembers) to suit instead of reusing crap? It's often best to insist on doing it right the first time (invoke safety or whatever) since the headache of clueless customers is often not worth the hassle.
I dont see how any of this is worth it , for what this owner is trying to save, i had frame rails by our shop made to size for a customers here on Longisland for his international for 12 ft long left little extra frame rail it came to $1,769.00 . Mabe we just lucked out because this producer is in our town . There press brake is 300 ton and its literally 40ft long
i needed each to be almost 23ft. most shops around here can only do 20ft. i would have had to wait for the other shops to do it plus pay over $1000. shipping from the closest one. if it was cheaper to go that route, i certainly would have,
I'm no expert.....but seems very labor intensive to still end up with used frame rails. The customer should have just gone with new rails from the start.
@@j.c.smithprojects PG Adams ....only way to go ....prices are more than reasonable ...but I guess that's all relative...and they're only an hour away.
@@j.c.smithprojects considering price of everything these days that's to be expected. They were less than $4k not that long ago. They do incredible work.
i stood it on its side and pushed on it with the gradall. i pushed passed straight. let off of it and it came right back the way it was. also it was "racked" 3/4" out of square.
i really didnt have the time to do this truck at all. so having it get delayed like this just makes me angry. im already past the time i allowed for the entire project and i am only 1/3 of the way through it.
Man I don’t know what kind of mess you got going on here you got in frame out frames cut frames man you better leave this to the professionals weed run you slap out of the shop if you ever drove this truck in here and throw that wire welder in the trash You need to stick weld in a frame and it needs to be plated but at least half inch beveled plates on the inside It looks like you’re stuck in dominoes.
need to stick weld? why? explain this to me. plated? why? explain this too. dont go missing now. explain your statement with as much conviction as this comment.
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Thanks for another update, 2 things are coming real clear with this, 1 your friend is a penny pinching truck operator and 2 if he's your friend wasting your time with junk donor frames, you need a better class of friend in your life ! I have no problem with your work or ethics you'll make this right, but man you'll be financing his operation doing this one with way to much un paid real value hours. That's even before you correct that other heap of scrap , that started this whole mess of you doing these projects . Take care guys.
you are right. i will have many unpaid hours, lots of unpaid consumables. loads of unpaid materials. what i will have is the peace of mind that he is in a good truck that will keep him and others around him safe. i dont want to get too personal about my friend but if you had the life that he has had.....i would do the same for you. i do get frustrated, but it wont stop me from doing the absolute best job i can. my standards dont change due to finances or time. it is what it is. i wish it could be done much faster and with less costs but it needs what it needs. when i said "i will build this truck the best way i knew how", i meant it. i will plug along on this truck just like i am building one of my own. appreciate you watching and commenting.
@@j.c.smithprojects i would count my blessings daily to have a friend like you. Very profound words and an even better work ethic. I keep telling my kids "its always nice to hear someone say I love you but a 1000% better if you show them" so say what you mean and mean what you say because the only thing you truly have in this life is your word.
Great build, can hardly wait for the next video.
@@j.c.smithprojects Thanks for the reply, I know exactly where you are at I've done the same thing fixing tractors for friends/customers that were in trouble when life went a bit south. I always told them find the money for parts and pay me when they can. In the end they quit farming, and I enjoy their friendship way more now when I see then or their number on call display. The what's screwed up now and i should be doing other work feeling has gone away. I didn't realize how much it mentally stressed me out dealing with it either. when one quit I helped him clean up his yard as he's hurt his back bad, when the farm sold. He gave me a quite large amount of cash I never asked for a cent of, and said thanks for helping me the last few years, I'd of gone bankrupt as nobody else was going to help like I did, so he really did appreciate it way more than I thought he did.
@@j.c.smithprojects this is how real friends are
I know the exact spot you are in with this project. You are a good man. Don’t change brother.
So sad that you have to go thru all the extra work and time because he seems to want to go cheap, I'm so glad and proud to have you wanting to do it right for everyones safety on the road and carry the load the way it should be carried 👍
The struggle is real JC hope you’re client appreciates the efforts you have put into this project 👍👍
i really dont know if he will.
Sadly that may be the case, but at the very least you and a few know that you have gone above and beyond
Reading both your comments as you said in the first video I ever watched ( the original video about completing someone else's work on the tanker ) you didn't want to put your name or reputation on someone else's shoddy work . At the very least this will have been done to a very high standard of workmanship that you know will be safe . Appreciated or not . Hopefully the client will ....
That plasma cutter cuts though that truck frame like butter. Sorry it’s been such a hassle to find the right frame, but I’m glad you can at least move forward with the project now.👍
You should name this water truck either 1) "The Hemorrhoid" for obvious reasons or
2) "Goldilocks" because all the frames were just not quite usable until you found one that was juuuust right 😂
Mr JC Love that plasma cutter. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
JC, as much as you seem to be getting jerked around by this customer on this build, I have to say you have GOT to be the most patient man I have ever seen! Oh, and little lady, when he is using the plasma cutter, we can hardly hear anything you are saying. The mike is just too sensitive to the machine's noise.
Hopefully you get paid for all of this frustrating time that was wasted of yours. You guys are a great team. JC it's also nice to see that this level of quality work is still done today.
I just noticed the winch rollers on the top of the saw horses. Thats a nice touch J.C! 🙂👍 I enjoyed the video 🔧🔩 Take care
I love watching your frame work sir. I am truly impressed every time!
Was just thinking about this build earlier while here at work, and check UA-cam and there’s a fresh video, lunch break time 😎
It's great to see a family unit working together and contributing with each other to do a job right the first time!! To say it's an honour it's also a privilege to see a Husband and Wife team working together to give back to friends and family as you have! It can be hard to see the payback when you're being generous and trying to do the job right!
All the best from Canada
G'day JC,,,,
I'm really enjoying these frame rebuilds ,,
as ultimately, its all about integrity .
Be it the integrity of the materials or even more importantly, the integrity of the builder / engineering.
Your video's are always a source of great joy for me ,largely due to the teamwork , fine detail & consistency .
Thanks very much for keeping the faithfull entertained,,,
I'm always looking forward to your next episode .
RESPECT ...!
Hey JC. As always awesome video. Nicely done!!
Other than standing there watching you work and lending a hand , this is the best internship I’ve found for what I want to do. Certainly couldn’t afford the tuition.
Glad to see the sweet k100 is still in the back kicking around
Uhh, no sir.., did not enjoy seeing/hearing your grief. Very much appreciated your “as per usual” efforts to make “things” right, and be able to sleep soundly at at night.
This has been a great video series,
Thank you sir.
I've been looking forward to more on this project, thank you J.C.for sharing & taking us to school. U explain very well the how & why. I am very picky w/ my trks. + equipment & sure like Ur way of thinking, also enjoyed the "j" hook humor. 🙂
Your motto "Do it right or don't do it" WELL DONE!
Thank goodness! Something I can watch without getting angry, like I do when I watch that guy thats on every other channel right now! 👍
As you say JC, 'Tis what it Tis'. At least you know the frame is decent now.
My lord what a balls ache' of a job bet was glad to see that back of that truck .....
Your doing it right and your way . Do it right the first time and make the customer happy . Time is money and your doing a great job . Can't ask for anything better . Great video .
Since you will not build an inferior frame, time and effort spent finding the right parts is an investment in how well you'll sleep after it rolls out to work. You've mentions that this is for a "friend", I sure hope he realizes the effort and care that you've put into making it correct for him to use and not have problems, later. As usual your work is first rate, and a pleasure to watch.
i really dont know if he or most others would understand or appreciate what it takes to build a truck this way.
Absolutely enjoyed this one. As I do ALL of your content. Thanks. This guy owes you…… BIG TIME!
Absolutely love your process and refusal to do sub par work or use sub par material. I swear we gotta be related JC...lol. I won't put my name on something that I can't do to my standards. Can't wait to see the next videos in this series. Keep up the awesome content
Great video J.C.Smith it's sad that all the frames your friend came up with fell short and wasted your time for 10 days. Now you've used one of your trucks to get the right frame for the job to get it done your way. Looking forward to your next video on this truck stay safe Mr & Mrs J.C.Smith.
What I was going to say--you got something hanging on the control handle to hold it down. When the remote coontrols came along --there were a godsend--even better when they became wireless. Even better when you are loading a roll off/tilt trailer aand you are by yourself and trying to guide a piece of equipement up on the bed. A lot of times--raininng or snowing or on the side of a bust road--makes it 10 times worse.
Take care!
Always enjoy the detail and how you explain things. And I called my brother to talk about your latest vlog. It's a great time for us to talk about your quality and the way you do things. As always sending out a big thank you from the foothills of Mt Rainer, Washington state. Tell the Mrs we say hello. I hope Jeff is doing good. Take care my friend.
Cool work man.
Enjoyed very much! Thank you. You are a true craftsman.
It’s sad and aggravating that you burned your time and fuel on unworthy frames. At least you know the frame you’ve got is straight and like you said it’s like starting over again on disassembly of the rear axle and suspension and preparation of the frame. Now that you’ve got a solid frame to work with this will be a better truck when you finish building it and safer truck for the customer and on the road. Your work ethic is awesome love what you do JC And Mrs JC. may you both have a Blessed One Sir.
Thank you for caring enough to keep an marginal truck off the road
And away from inspecting families
Great idea using the roller fairleads on the saw horse to slide the frame along and keep it square. A lot of extra work for you but I totally understand that you are putting your reputation on the build so you can’t do that with a crooked frame. It will be a masterpiece when you are finished. Even if nobody ever sees it again, YOU will know that it was built the JC way and better than any custom truck shop
I feel your frustration, I do love your safety first work ethic too. I hope the rest of the project stops fighting you so hard. Cheers
Bluetooth mind control. I like it. Now if I could only use it to weld; things would be perfect.
" uneventful" means you planed it well and took the time to not endanger anyone else.
Definitely got your work cut out for you looking forward for your next video on this thumbs up 👍
I didn't that roller chassis you moved with the roll off would fit but you had a good 6" to spare. That plasma cutter is the cats meow.
Boy, yall sure do such hard work!! Enjoy your videos sir
Really enjoy your content!
Honestly I don't know why you don't have more subscribers. This is good stuff. I know you want to treat this customer right but I would not only charge him for the frame but I would also charge him for time and effort spent running around retrieving bogus frames and maybe a little for the time having his truck tie up your shop space. Not trying to tell you how to run your business but honestly I would make it worth my while. Can't wait for the next one...
this is why i dont work on trucks for other people. this is the wrong truck to build from the start but this is what he has. i would have spent the money on a better suited truck to start with. then the scope of work is far more focused on "up fitting" and not making a "round beg square". it has been a "soup sandwich" from the word go.
You over doit so much and so meticulous it's almost comical that being said can't wait till you put something together that I can't live without keep up the good work and good content
I like it so much that you don't want to compensate for something you made even if the owner just wants it cobbled together with poor quality parts.
you want to be proud of what you have made and stand for it being made as good as possible for you.
that's how it SHOULD BE. totally TOP👍 done JC.
By the way, I am also very curious about the video where you will make the positive and negative cutting template for that "puzzle piece"
and how that would work in practice with cutting out the "puzzle piece" shape with the plasma cutter.
I think this would give a super professional look as well.
thanks for the video again JC and Mrs.Smith
the puzzle piece will come about on one of my builds. im sure it will push my skills beyond my capabilities but i think it is worth the stress and struggle.
@@j.c.smithprojects 👍👍
Good work as usual JC. Hello Mrs JC.
JC, Ezrider359 says ya saved him a lot of headaches down the road with that tow truck. It’s nice to see Utubers helping each other out when they can. Cheers…
that was a tough situation.
hello jc and mrs.smith its is randy and i like u video is cool jc thanks friends randy
Awsome job..hope you get paid for your frame
Thanks for sharing
good vid
What a pain in the you know what. I hope you are getting compensated for your time.
Awe inspiring as always
Your a better man than I would drug that half of truc k out of my shop told him when he gets financing and parts to come back and in 90 days the rest that I drug out goes to scrape unless he pays rent
Your point of using new frame rails early on in the job was an important point because it’s easier to weld and work with new frame rails. It’s easier to work with a new product. It may cost more money for the initial purchase, but the fact that you’re not stripping a used frame . Spending time locating, one . worrying about it being bent, in the
Big picture it would’ve been cheaper and easier for you and you could return the truck to the customer faster doing your way .
I agree it would be easier to use new but not cheaper or faster . the new rails from pj adams would have been over $6500 with shipping and a 6 month wait. the least expensive i could find were only available in 20ft lengths and 2 weeks out. so it would have had to be spliced and it was mild steel. not actual frame rail. the cost with shipping was over $4400. so this was still the best option for me.
It’s a credit to your business sense to buy and have the quality of parts you have. At least you’ve minimized some of the additional work you would have had to put into a lesser quality replacement frame. Thanks
Extra work indeed but the only way to set it up the right way. I see why he's being a bit picky.
I'm thinking you've had to ask yourself at least once by now, how did I get myself into this? It's easy to get burnt out on something like that.... What you said about being tired of messing with junk, I've definitely been there...😃 It's looking good though...
not really. just more frustrated that it sat idle. once the frame is spliced, it should start moving much faster. fingers crossed there are no more major bumps in the road.
Boy it makes me really appreciate the things we have out here in the west! I can't believe how much rust is on those frames! All I can say is keep track of those hours and charge him for it!
Well the journey continues .. seems a lot of faffing about waiting for the guy to get his stuff sorted . Your saving the day but at a cost to you in down time and stripping 1 of your trucks down . Ok you say your charging him for the frame I'd be charging him for storage on the wasted time that front end has sat in your shop taking up space while he sources or attempts to source a frame . Shame it's just taking 10 days plus that you could have been finishing up the frame rails ..looking forward to following along thanks
it will all work out in the end.
Sir first and foremost I feel your frustrations with the frame and dealing with the outsourcing of the donor frame sadly all the lost time put into sourcing the frame and traveling is time and money that you can't reacoupe on the upside your getting the opportunity to use your new plasma cutter and welder side note when it comes to your personal trucks that you own do you have a invintory system that helps you keep track of them as you have several properties in which you store them and as you sell / part them out and dispose of them
just in my head and a file folder. i cant remember lots of things but i can tell what i paid for every truck i own as well as what i have spent or sold on each.
Man.....what a pain in the behind that became!!
cool stuff
Good choice on using your frame!
This customer would have a stroke if he had to buy new rails from PG Adams !!
And your shop would have been tied up much longer.
there isnt enough room in the budget for one frame rail from pg.
man very good content 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I was wondering can a semi be stretch to fit a 26 ft box ?
Great videos, better than the bozos that run our country. Have a great evening JC.
Should look in Oklahoma and Texas at Truck frames. We have many good ones here
I'm enjoyin this... takes me back to th he 60s n early 70s. Thanks. Isn't the rollback a Grove Super 10?
it is a jerrdan bed
@@j.c.smithprojects used to be Grove... 👍😎🇺🇸🏁.
We'd go down to Green Castle n pick up two or three, swing over to Valk in Carlisle then head back up Rt11 to CNY cause there weren't any scales...
Put it all on a Binder or Dodge, then we connected with a Chev dlr. We'd get a cab n chassis, put a hoist n body or rollback as a demonstrator. We had Mid Equipment n Grove rollbacks plus.... guess Mid Equip is gone...
Hope you will charge for your time, fuel and frame.
How did he put his glove less 🤔 hands on the frame right after a cut! With a plasma cutter.
Yes your right it is if we can see in the future it might be better?
Shame you have to go thru all that craziness !you are right he should pay,time is money and he wasted your time and space.
nice
you do what you have to!
a long ways to go to be back to square one.
sad really....
Wassup
Now I don't feel so bad...seems everyone else wants good enough...sometimes it sucks being so particular and anal about details
can you use any of the frames you went through for double ups? always great video's J.C.
yes but the outer frame is already made.
Customers never look for quality they only look for price.
he isnt a customer. just helping a friend.
@@j.c.smithprojects I was once told: "Never work for friend or family" but that's all I can do in my old age.. LOL
friends and family will never be a customer but customers will quickly become friends and family....
I watched all 12 parts to your video, I am wanting to stretch a 1997 dodge dually to build a custom service truck but am having trouble finding anything on stretching pickups, the frames are not straight like 18 wheelers so unsure where to start
have you considered buying another dodge frame and cutting the donor at the back of the cab and yours at the forward leaf spring hanger on the drive axle?
50 % chassis only 😅
That's horrid. Did the owner not know ya can order new custom blank rails (and otherparts like crossmembers) to suit instead of reusing crap? It's often best to insist on doing it right the first time (invoke safety or whatever) since the headache of clueless customers is often not worth the hassle.
Sorry all u had go thru to get a frame
Curious but why is this guy not in the shop helping on this project???
think about how this would play out.....do you think i would do well with someone doing work in my shop that accepted the other truck as "OK"?
@@j.c.smithprojects lmao but it might make for good entertainment if it was on video 😂👍
Too bad you had to sacrifice one of your red F-750s, but glad it’s coming along. Was that the F-750 that had a rear brake fire?
no. the one that had the rear end fire is project "overkill".
@@j.c.smithprojects Ok nice, overkill will be awesome once completed
Very cool , love your adventures!!! Thanks for taking us along!
Jumping through some flaming hoops on this one.
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Is there a specific reason for those angled frame cuts?
give me more weld surface.
I dont see how any of this is worth it , for what this owner is trying to save, i had frame rails by our shop made to size for a customers here on Longisland for his international for 12 ft long left little extra frame rail it came to $1,769.00 . Mabe we just lucked out because this producer is in our town . There press brake is 300 ton and its literally 40ft long
i needed each to be almost 23ft. most shops around here can only do 20ft. i would have had to wait for the other shops to do it plus pay over $1000. shipping from the closest one. if it was cheaper to go that route, i certainly would have,
I'm no expert.....but seems very labor intensive to still end up with used frame rails. The customer should have just gone with new rails from the start.
price 27ft frame rails shipped to your door and then tell me that.
@@j.c.smithprojects PG Adams ....only way to go ....prices are more than reasonable ...but I guess that's all relative...and they're only an hour away.
$6500 from pj adams
@@j.c.smithprojects considering price of everything these days that's to be expected. They were less than $4k
not that long ago. They do incredible work.
Your frame appears to be from a mid range truck ?? . Midrange class( 6-7) frames dont have the tensile strength of class 8 trucks.
not the case. this donor frame is 120,000 tensile strength. original frame was lower.
I am sure many guys would have used any of those donor frames without hesitation. People always seem to forget that time and shop space is money
im sure they were "acceptable" to others. the closer i get it it, the easier it will all come together.
Cant you pick it up the opposite way and make it straight?
i stood it on its side and pushed on it with the gradall. i pushed passed straight. let off of it and it came right back the way it was. also it was "racked" 3/4" out of square.
Why not just get new frame rails????
cost
this one has stressed you out most would have either walked away or put junk in there
i really didnt have the time to do this truck at all. so having it get delayed like this just makes me angry. im already past the time i allowed for the entire project and i am only 1/3 of the way through it.
Man I don’t know what kind of mess you got going on here you got in frame out frames cut frames man you better leave this to the professionals weed run you slap out of the shop if you ever drove this truck in here and throw that wire welder in the trash You need to stick weld in a frame and it needs to be plated but at least half inch beveled plates on the inside It looks like you’re stuck in dominoes.
need to stick weld? why? explain this to me. plated? why? explain this too. dont go missing now. explain your statement with as much conviction as this comment.
People are cheap
What was the purpose of the frame extensions in the first place? I’m just curious did I have a dump bed on it? Thank you.