Fermzilla & Fermentasaurus Fermenters & Unitanks Comparison
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
- Within this video I cover the differences between the products shown, including the common design differences between the two manufacturers. This is done focussing on simply the facts and is without any opinion of my own. This video has been made based on the amount of regular questions that I get around these types of products and it is my hope that this video gives a good factual insight into what is on offer from both manufacturers to assist without any bias either way between the two.
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Here is some extra information that I have been made aware of since making this video:-
- Keg King are going to release 60L Pet vessels in the near future
- Some of Fermentasaurus photos used in one part of this video have turned out to be an older version and not the latest one. Please check with relevant websites to see how they look now.
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Great video again Dave.
I have both Fermzilla and the allrounder, I use the allrounder exclusively for non dry hop brews and the combination works well for me.
I would recomend the allrounder for anybody dipping their toe into pressure fermenting .
Many thanks Jeffrey, much appreciated. Good to hear that you are happy with your choice :)
Thank you for an unbiased look at the features both companies offer. I always look forward to your vids.
Many thanks Ian, great to hear :)
Top video David . Thank you sir, very interesting indeed👍👍👍👍
Thank you, much appreciated :)
Thanks for the video Dave, excellent and thorough review. I used to ferment on the fermentausaurus, loved the conical bottom although sometimes gets clogged, but a a bit of rock and roll would help unclogging so not a biggie, what I do remember as pain was the cleaning.
Thanks Oscar. Yes, I think there can be issues with these types of products but as long as the user can find solutions that work then all good. Ive had it pretty easy so far.
Having now owned both the fermentasaurus and the fermzilla, I can tell you the lid seal design on the fermzilla is far superior that of the fermentasaurus. The gasket at the top of the fermentasaurus is a PAIN!! Thanks for the video David!! 🍻👍
Glad you enjoyed this one Brian. Yes, everyone will have their own take on this, I wanted to present it "as is" so took my opinion out of it. I think I would also need to use the Fermentasaurus stuff more before I could really fairly give an opinion.
I haven’t had any issues with the seal on my snub nose. Not sure where you’re having issues.
@@nicholasgolden4182 not sure about the newer models. I'm referring to the very first fermentasaurus model.
I think like all these products people will have different experiences for differing reasons.
I bought the fermenter king junior over the fermzilla partly because of the large number of people whove reported the lids leaking on the fermzilla compared to the snub nose or FKJ or the new fermentasaurus. I dont know about the first generatipn fermentasaurus as you cant even buy it anymore so your comment is irrelvant for that reason alone anyway, cheers!
Great video David.
I only have experience with the fermentasaurus as I have moved to stainless fermenters. The fermentasaurus is an ok fermenter, the collection bottle opening is too small and the top opening is too small as well but other than that I have not had any issues.
Many thanks Jennifer. Yes, ive heard people say this. I am yet to properly test these, so its hard to say much about until I have.
Great video David, as you know I have two of the Juniors. The other ones don’t excite me at all :) I think there is a new version of the KegKing one with a different dump valve. Anyway as I said a great overview cheers mate!
Many thanks Ken. Yes I can see the draw on the Juniors, at this point I have not done enough testing with them to form a fair opinion. Yes, Ive been made aware of the new valve since putting this video out but this should be very visible to people who look further into this I think.
Great job as usual and would love to see what all the add-ons are available for each.
Many thanks Mike. There is a pretty vast list already due to the ball lock support but also things like cooling options also.
Great video as usual but I do not think some opinion would have hurt. Very useful though all the same.
Thanks Alan, much appreciated. Things are pretty political between these two companies and I really did not want to get involved in the situation or caught in the cross fire.
Great video David - thank you! I understand why you give unbiased opinion when reviewing brewing hardware, but given your wealth of experience I would love your opinions as to what you like and dislike in a product from the perspective of a seasoned brewer.
As an aside I have just bought some Lallemand Voss Kveik on your recommendation and am excited to do my first brew with it!
Many thanks Henry. Yes, I made this one more of a comparison than a review. I have not tested all of these to a level where I can rightfully give a final opinion. I hope you enjoy the Voss kveik, this I feel is a great yeast :)
Hi, David nice work on the video. I am from Australia and use the Fermentasarus with the bottle at the bottom for dry hopping the problem is with the stainless steel stand and fermenter its like 900mm in height so it won't fit in my fermenting fridge. looking at the more compact units without the dry hopping.
Thanks Ricco. Yes the sizes of these are certainly an important point if you need to fridge them. Here in Norway we have the opposite temperature issue to Australia, so I am not using a fridge with these myself, just heating. I mostly use kveik also, so then temp control is not such the big issue either.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew David sorry to go off-topic but have you noticed the Grainfather app has not updated to include the G70 in the equipment list. would I be right to assume you can not connect the Bluetooth Controller to the g70 or have they just not updated the app yet
The all rounder is a great size IMO it is a bit wide, but will fit most fridges.
I want to buy a few of the all rounders but can’t find them in the states.
Yes, they have been especially popular and restocking takes a bit longer these days. Bound to be back in stock soon enough though.
I got mine from morebeer.com on Saturday... I signed up for notification when they were allowing orders, and placed the order a few days later when they notified me. Placed order on 5/7 and it shipped 5/14 (from PA warehouse). Incidentally, I'm still waiting on the pressure kit to ship from CA.
Hi David
Just a quick question if you don't mind
what are your views on hop spiders for the grainfather.
Many thanks
Sure, no problem. Personally I have a couple of different hop spiders but seldom use them. The GF by standard should be fine without it. If you add a false bottom also then you are further protected. If you use a hop spider then you should add 10% more hops to compensate.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Many thanks
Love the channel by the way
Great to hear, thank you :)
I have the Grainfather hop spider and well, it works as advertised but it's another thing to clean when the brew day is over. It doesn't catch all of the hops but it does most of it. I rarely use it anymore though since I think the Grainfather works just fine without it. I don't have the false bottom, for the same reason, but I think it would probably be better than the spider as it lets the hops move around more freely.
Thanks for that 😊 What is the regular live span for this vessel and is it possible to attach a cooling coil ?
Or would that be stupid to do. Maybe I just need to buy one more conical fermenter 🤔
Anyway I always look forward to see your videos. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks Allan. I was not an early adopter of these types of products myself but I know people who were and they have lasted those years so far with respectful use. I guess as long as you treat it well then it will last the years that a regular plastic fermenter will. If you have a problem then replacement parts are available also.
The KL one certainly has a cooling coil mate.
David: thank you for your wonderful and informative videos: I love the calm style as well:
I am keen to get into more involved brewing, having only brewed from kits up to now.
I’m stuck between the Robobrew and the Grainfather connect but kind of feel either will do me fine. TheBrewtools system looks too complex for a beginner and probably to expensive with the chiller. To my simple mind the fermenter is the first buy. But after watching all of your videos I am still confused between the Fermzilla with an internal chiller coil added and temp probe, or the Grainfather SS conical. The room I brew in is usually a bit cooler than ambient running between 18 deg c and 22 but it can get warmer. The Fermzilla seems to cover all options with pressure and the container at the bottom for dry hopping and removal of Trub. But in videos you suggested that the GF will get a pressure kit and you didn’t seem to think that dry hoping would ever cause oxidisation in the real world. I wonder if you could advise. I doubt if I could ever buy a glycol chiller but can use tap water to chill with a solenoid valve. I am mechanically minded and have a technical background. Money is not the issue space however is. So it’s one or the other. What would you do?
Sorry for the ramble and thanks for any advice given in advance. Hopefully I have explained well enough. Regards and keep up the good work. Mark
Sorry for the late reply, YT has some errors with message reporting recently so I only just got to see this! Since the RoboBrew Brewzilla 3.1.1 things have drawn even closer between these two. I think for sheer value for money the Robobrew comes out on top here. The GF conical will last longer than a Fermzilla but a Fermzilla has various extra uses. The GF pressure side is just for transfer sadly. Hope this helps :)
David Heath Homebrew thank you. I purchased the Conical. All good so far.
I'm not too keen on plastic fermenters anymore. But and it's a big butt lol I really, Really want that fermenter king keg shape fermenter ” Maybe an unnatural urge” 🍻
Thanks Bradley. Yes everyone needs to make a choice! Ive not tried the Junior yet but I can see why it interests people. For my taste, I would have liked it to be slimmer so that I could get 3 into a kegerator. I would not have cared if this meant it had a smaller volume. 18-19L for example would be fine.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew I definitely agree if it was more corning keg size it would be better.
Why not just use a corny keg directly then?
@@DenkerNZ I'm assuming it'll be cheaper than a standard keg. Building off of that I like the idea that it's somewhat disposable as well 🍻
Yes price difference but I guess for some having a plastic version is good for a little easier portability.
It seems little bit strange to me, that overpressure valve post in lid do not accept just normal airlock. I've tried it many times before to ferment my beers just in normal corny keg and overpressure post fits perfect for most of my airlocks. While its made of steel, of course and had quite a sharp thread inside. So actually I had to twist in my airlock into the post and soft plastic airlock become thread as well and create completlly airtight seal with no problem at all. Thankfully its larger than airlock tube, so probably thats enough to put some teflon tape on it to twist it down to lid.
MeFee100 Yes, I figured it was smart to try but as you saw the hole is just too wide for the commonly used 3 piece and S bend airlocks.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew So maybe this overpressure valves has different diameter then the ones comes with normal corny? Can you try to replace valves between corny and fermenter? Are they interchangable ? I've bought my airlocks years ago, just chipest ones and they work perfectly with corny's nest for overpressure valve.
Fermentasaurus snub nose is great , I have a few of these. Easy to clean , pressure ferment and has little waste/ loss of beer due to the conical shape. Love it.
Many thanks for your thoughts here Dale, much appreciated :)
@@DavidHeathHomebrew You should maybe explain that Snub Nose is not a fermzilla.
Fermentasaurus Snub Nose is one, Fermzilla is another brand.
I explained that in the video but yes ok :)
Hey Dale, the snub nose is a Fermentasaurus product, not a Fermzilla :)
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Can you also explain why some comments are deleted?
I made some screenshots I can send to you if you are interested.
Or is it admin again?
Good video, but I think you might miss a few points here. One of thoose is that Snub Nose come as a 60 liter UNI-tank as well.
Fermenter King JR will in a few weeks arrive to Sweden and Europe.
Great, thanks for the update on this.
Please note the pinned comment in place now that provides the relevant information. Please understand and respect that I will not allow any business to use my comments section as a place to promote. But I still appreciate your update as previously stated of course.
Well, you are representing Ölbryggning.no and represent that company. It´s good that you recommend Fermentasaurus and Snub Nose from Keg King. It´s a reliable prodduct and it has a good quality.
Promoting products it´s not really any problem if you say so. But when you don´t, it´s going to haunt you.
all the best.
i just use a connector and some tube with an airlock at the end on the snubnose
Yes, that would work :)
I have a snub nose Fermentasurus and would not buy one again. David can you investigate the failing take-up pipe attached to the float. With mine when I get half to three quarters down doing a closed transfer the take-up pipe sticks up on an angle and stops transferring wort and just sucks in air (very frustrating). I've got a brew fermenting at the moment and have attached a small weight to the pipe to try and keep it pointed down. I know of other people who have had this problem it would be great to know if you've had it happen or you could investigate it. I've been in touch with Keg King and they were aware of the problem but don't seem interested in solving it. Cheers
Sorry to hear that you are having this problem. I have not tested this personally yet but certainly can. Some thoughts though...when you do the transfer are you doing this under pressure with a spunding valve for control? Also have you tried movement to get the dip tube back on track?
@@DavidHeathHomebrew No but it seems to be a design fault the tube is held with the small ring and this allows the tube to move in whatever direction it wants...unfortunately for me it's been pointing up when it gets about half to three quarters down. I'm going to see if the weight on the tube works, but what is frustrating is Keg King know there's a problem but won't resolve it. BTW love your videos!
Well I hope you manage to get it resolved. Perhaps try reaching out to them again?
@@austake I have the Fermzilla, I just drilled a ~
2mm hole through the SS pickup tube, close to the 'mouth', this stops it sucking onto the side of the wall..
Great video David. Due to budget, I stay with my "trust" old plastic buckets. I wish to buy one SS unitank, like kegmenter. Since I saw your video about it, I am in love.
Cheers
Many thanks Marc. Yes, lots of choices. I am using the Kegmenter a lot these days. Very functional and ideal for my uses.
Why do a comparison when you are not comparing the latest models of both.. doesn’t help me as understand the difference in one video. And somewhat misleading. I want to know what is the best for dry hoping not showing the lid port dry hop and no video does yet
Sorry but this was not intentional, the photos are actually from models sold in my part of the world.I posted a sticky on the comments mentioning this.
It's a shame you didn't include the current offerings from Keg King in this "comparison" and only presented a product that is now 2 models old. A shame you couldn't get their business name correct as well.
This was not intentional, the photos are actually from models sold in my part of the world.I posted a sticky on the comments mentioning this.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew i new about the new fermentasaurus back in december mate, just a basic check of their website wouldve alerted you to this fact so it still comes across as a bit disengenous and strange for you to miss that.
Sorry if it comes across that way to you Jeff but it certainly was not my intention. As soon as I found out I posted a sticky about it as the top comment. You should realise that most of these units offered and sold world wide are as I showed. So for the majority, the photos used are relevant. Also I have to say that this new one just has very small differences to the eye.