ECLIPSE II SUPER STAR DESTROYER | The Most Powerful Star Wars Legends Ship Explained
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2018
- We cover the most powerful Super Star Destroyer in Star Wars Legends lore, the Eclipse II -- final flagship of Emperor Palpatine, and superweapon of the Dark Empire.
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I really wish that I could find a copy of the dark empire series. I've checked all of my local stores but no luck. Anybody know where I could find it?
@@somen0body417 Amazon?
EckhartsLadder wath your opinion about imperium ultra class star destroyer?
Plz do mc heavy carrier vs bothan cruiser loved your description
This never gets boring
Damn right
I agree
Damn straight.
Never ever
Even in 500 years
Disney: This is the Supremacy, the most powerful ship in the First Order
Eclipses: Heh, you are like tiny baby.
I like the Supremacy, but it doesn't hold a candle to the Eclipses
Oh yes, good old "My toys are better!"... and then you get a damn Sun crasher
@@BadtotheBrick Or with their hyperdrive.
"They're too far away for our weapons to penetrate their shields"
That wouldnt've happened with the eclipse
A-Wing : I can end both of y’all’s careers
Building a fleet of eclipse super star destroyers is much more practical and effective than building the Death Star 2.
Makes you wonder what The Emperor was thinking making the DS 2
It's not the Death Star II itself that was the problem so much as Palpatine's own arrogance in his planning involving it.
He should have simply allowed the Death Star II to be fully completed and just start blowing away planets until the Rebels surrendered (or other fearful star systems collaborate to help catch them) since, had it been completed, the Death Star II would have been pretty much unstoppable to the Rebellions as all of weaknesses from the first one were corrected - 2 meter exhaust ports to countless millimeter wide ones across the whole surface, no faulty reactor flaw, having a much tighter anti-starfighter defense, super laser is more powerful and with a much faster charge time, and so on.
Probably that he wanted another death star 🤷♂️
HalfDemonInuyasha I can agree on that. Still the eclipse fleet would be much more flexible
lost comments Blowing up planets looks cool but it would be much more practical just to level cities with an eclipse star destroyer’s super laser, plus the ships can support fleets more efficiently than the Death Star can. Why blow up planets, when you can just subjugate the planet with an eclipse star destroyer and exploit the populous and resources while still maintaining fear.
I hate the way the Eclipse II was destroyed. The New Republic forces inside the ship would have been overwhelmed by the sheer number of Stormtroopers inside the Eclipse.
Yeah it was definitely kinda derpy how they ended the series, really a shame for just how awesome the rest of the series was.
Eh, the bigger the ship, the more manpower required to guard it, and the harder it is to move troops around to key positions. The Eclipse II's death was the perfect example of why building ultra invincible super-dreadnoughts isn't a good idea, and fits very well with the franchise's theme of giant weapons being taken down in unconventional ways.
@@michaelramon2411,
But still, realistically, the fight inside the ship would go on for at least a few hours depending on how many New Republic Soldiers there are inside the ship. It would've been enough time to mobilize enough Stormtroopers to kill the Rebels.
@@nixxel2278 The Republic isn't trying to take the bridge, or the barracks, or the reactor, or even the hangers. Their job is just to get far enough into the maintenance corridors to get a link to the hyperdrive computer. It would make sense for initial resistance to be light, after which the Republic forces could dig in and stall. Especially since there was a regular battle going on outside the ship.
The destruction of the Eclipse II is basically the entire Empire/Rebellion conflict distilled down to a single battle.
uhh sir they had very powerful armor making them immortal plot armor
I will order 1 immediately.
I have Gungans to deal with.
Fried Chicken Now make sure to kill jar jar
I hear they taste almost as good as Ewoks.
@@LoneWolf20213 Don't you mean Darth Jarjar? Dark lord of the Sith?
No jar jar is too powerful
Jar jar cant be defeated
The Eclipse or the boomerang looking Supremacy? I'll take the Eclipse as my flagship please.
@HaloBaller9813 Indeed
Neither LOOKS bad, but Eclipse is a somewhat more practical warship for me.
The Supremacy, while not a bad ship, definitely comes off of much more as a rear vessel, providing long range bombardment and repairs as it's also essentially a moving ship yard with its enormous hangars and such.
The Eclipse is far more front-line with its much heavier offensive power, and ridiculously thick armor and powerful shields, being able to ram through other capital ships without taking any damage even without its shields.
The Supremacy, in spite of its size, still seems like a ship that could be taken down in conventional combat (albeit with difficulty) whereas both the Eclipse I and II were pretty much impossible to be taken down in a normal fashion and required very roundabout and special ways of destroying them.
@@chrissonofpear3657 "Neither LOOKS bad, but Eclipse is a somewhat more practical warship for me."
Thats becuase the Supremacy is more of a mobile base than a warship.
@Revan Gravity well generators ?
So it's immune to hyperspace ramming, game over then.
Just the idea to mount a superlaser on a Dreadnought is better than depensing billions on a Death Star. The two stations were destroyed easily by starfighters, while the Eclipse I and II were aproximatly indestructible. Also, for une Death Star, you could build much more Eclipse and Sovereign Dreadnought, more faster, and with a better repartition of the ressources at the end. My choice is made, how about you?
Not to mention the tactical and strategic flexibility of having multiple ships rather than one oversized space station. Not to mention the rather wasteful overkill of a planet killer when busting continents or even merely cities would do just as well. The SSDs speak to a more conventional fleet based military doctrine with heavy capital ships, vs the wasteful, inflexible, and easily destroyed super weapons of the Tarkin Doctrine. A Grand Fleet of dreadnoughts would definitely be the route I'd take as well.
(Of course, that's probably still not up to par for killing Rebel scum, they're too elusive to smash with a sledgehammer of capital ships unfortunately. Unless a Death Star were used as a sacrificial bit of bait similar to the Endor scheme, but with the fleet being the genuine threat...)
Witold Karamazov like the idea
The advantage of the Death Stars is that they're far more powerful and thus far more terrifying and demoralising to the average person. If an Eclipse fires on your planet, sure , it becomes uninhabitable, but you can still point to it and say "This was my home, this is what I fight for." If a Death Star fires on your planet, there's just an asteroid belt left behind.
Oh, that ship is beautiful. Not my first choice to take into battle, but beautiful nonetheless. I'd like a model of that ship in my office.
@Mario Perez It was.
But weren't you the one who thought Palpatine's obsession with gigantic, absurdly resource-intensive superweapons was ultimately a detriment to the military might and stability of the Empire, which would be better served by a larger and more flexible array of conventional fleet assets?
@@dianabarnett6886 Precisely.
@@grand-dadmiral Indeed it was. An absolute masterpiece of a ship, magnificent and powerful.
The might of the Galactic Empire in all its glory.
Same
Beautiful modelling, nice work Henry.
I agree
Love the model!
looks like something out of Rebels, well done to whoever made it...
@@CS-nq9sq Same thing I was thinking.
I like the fanmade size chart to, including the Vengeance and several other ships, set at commonly agreed lengths.
I nearly lost my shit because that model i thought was from an episode of rebels i may have somehow missed at first. Gorgeous model though.
Cathal Swanton, EC Henry created the model. He has lots more on his channel.
Eclipse 1
Me: *upgrade*
Eclipse 2
Me: *perfect*
Robert the Dude N O U P G R A D E R E Q U I R E D
Eclipse 2
Me:upgrade
Eclipse 3
Me:perfect
Robert the Dude
Eclipse 1
Me : *Upgrade*
Eclipse 2
Me : *Its nice but UPGRADE*
The Supremacy
Me : *Fuck go back*
@@sasquatch668able the second could do that aswell, so the second is better overall.
@@sasquatch668able 5:23
Zahn stole the biggest ship the empire had..... with the power of plot
Person Lastname It's not like he used it much
@@Oppen1945 also a good point, he stole the biggest ship, with mini deathstar tech, took the data and just left it XD
@@Person-Lastname you have to admit he had a fairly good reason though first and foremost it was not complete the zann consortium was not a formal government and i believe would not have had the resources to complete its construction plus where would he finish it? kuat? not likely sullust? under rebel control. Fondor? under imperial control at this point (i think please correct me if im wrong.) hypori? not with out massive upgrades to its shipyards, most likely would be noticed as well if they tried that. effectively once everyone found out about the eclipse it probably would not have been hard to track it down again to destroy it or take it back. like zann said it presented a target even the rebels couldn't miss.
And we thought plot armor was bad.
@@lxperron610 He had Hypori
Eclipse-class is like the Yamato-class of Star Wars
EndNoble
A Yamato Battleship + Nimitz Aircraft Carrier
All those fighter squadrons & troops
*whew*
The Yamato was a smaller and flexible version of the Eclipse.
Big expensive and never paying back it’s investment cost?
@@JacatackLP Lololololol
You do realize being pointless is a battleship trait in general and a WWII battleship trait in particular? The Yamato-class stands out largely due to being the largest, but by the time they were built EVERY battleship wasn’t worth the expense. Carriers were far better at killing enemy surface units (while their range advantage made them virtually invulnerable to enemy guns), and smaller vessels could carry out AA, ASW and shore bombardment far more cost-effectively.
Don’t get me wrong, the Yamatos had some issues as battleships (their radar systems could have been better, for example-they only had search radar and the IJN didn’t succeed wheN they tried to fit fire control radar onto them), and I wouldn’t consider them the best BBs. But it was the rise of naval aviation, rather than better BBs, that rendered them and every other BB useless.
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The comics in Star Wars are amazing tbh. They have all these cool ships
Both Legends and Canon comics is pretty awesome.
Dark Empire for all its silliness and weird coloring does have some of the best ships and coolest locations in the series.
Its stupid that Palpatine can resurrect himself 10 times over
Our every ware
It's interesting just how different Eclipse and Eclipse II are. The ventral part of the ship is far far smaller. I like II's engines more, but I think I prefer I overall
I've noticed, the eclipse SD was similar to UNSC ships in the fact that they were centered around their most powerful weapon: the MAC/super laser
My favorite ship of all time
Eclipse 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Featuring: emperor palpatine and grand moff trawn
Starring OP egineering
Why bring grain over here
I don’t care that I messed it up
Pesky bird
The most powerful Legends ship goes out in a failure more epic than Han and Luke's in the Sequel trilogy. Man, Thrawn had the right idea not putting all his eggs in the same basket.
Anyways: Can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: as many times are there are dalmatians in that one 1996 movie.
lmao most underrated comment how has nobody seen this
2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer
Harrowers take it. They launch strike craft at distance and split up. Their fighters handle the TIES then start interfering with PD fire while their bombers go for ISD shields.
Meanwhile the harrowers have split up and are aiming to pincer- one above the ISD and one below.
The one above dies to turbolasers but not before launching missiles at the ISD's unshielded bridge, the one below starts hammering the underside hangers and reactor dome. Remaining fighters and bombers start going for the ISD bridge. Between the assaults on the weaker underside and exposed bridge, ISD goes down.
@@vincediscombe7360 Are ther any stats that would confirm that Harrower's shield wouldn't stand a chance against ISD's main batteries, but ISD would stand a chance against Harrower's guns? Old republic era technology always appeared far more advanced to me.
@@failedexperiment9073
I don't know, I gave them ton for ton parity because I've not seen otherwise- both seem fairly powerful in their own settings. Cba to trawl through spacebattles and find out tbh ;)
I don't think 1 harrower could take an ISD1, they're like half the length and less than that in mass- though I think it'd be closer than one'd think. And ISD2 while a straight upgrade I still don't reckon is up to killing 2 harrowers, not with their massive fighter advantage.
Kenneth Kates want to see this
@@failedexperiment9073 Old Republic Tech is less advanced than Imperial tech but not by much.
Don’t you just hate it when your own creation ends up being your undoing?
Cool profile picture what is it?
Thomas Geltzer it’s the Fire team Apollo symbol from Halo
@@IrishPhoenix7 thanks
Well Pelleaon did not really reform the Empire - he never wanted to become a warlord... he simply chosen to serve greatest authority...
After Dark Empire he got promoted to Vice admiral by Teradoc and got 73 VSDs to command - but they mostly fought other imperials...
Daala really really killed all the warlords and after her debacle over Yavin she handed supreme command of military to Pelleaon... but again - he never wanted to be a warlord so he in essence ceaded power to Moff council in outer rim...
and well to quote the good old man:
"Empire can be different. Provided we shoot all the lunatics who enjoy the idea."
―Gilad Pellaeon
Why did he get Victory Star-Destroyers? Aren't those ships some of the worst Star Destroyers to exist?
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 A good admiral can make the worst ship effective
@@gt2p818 Ah, that makes sense.
Really neat model. I hope we see more of these. Also, I love the Eclipse class so I'm glad you made this video.
I love the designs and ships that came from the Dark Empire series, but by the force everything ended up destroyed in the most idiotic way possible. Empire's End was probably the most obvious reset button to status quo in Star Wars history, instead of having to actually overcome this super powerful fleet we're just going to plot device the entire Dark Empire. Sorry I'm done ranting, I really would have loved to see the Republic actually having to defeat the Dark Empire after Palpatine's death.
The Eclipse I main weapon was said to be "a THIRD the power of the Death Star Laser that could crack a planet" that's from the Essential guide to weapons and vehicles.
I'm really enjoying your content, it's so detailed and explained. Thank you and keep up the good work :) Legends is the best !
Nicely done. Enjoyed learning new info on awesome Star Wars capital ships.
I kinda wanna see the Sun Crusher take a direct hit from either Eclipse Classes, hell I'll even settle for the modified Subjecator Class "The Devastation"
I also wanna see the CIS super tank try and shrug off an orbital bombardment from a Imperial Star Destroyer.
4 years late, but the Sun Crusher tanked a Death Star prototype hit so I'd bet it could survive an Eclipse as well
Another excellent video! This channel is the best. Thanks!
T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
T-70 surely? More heavily armed and armoured/shielded?
Wouldn't e-wing vs a-wing be a better compare?
Baneblade(40k) vs AT-AT(x5)
Baneblade(40k) vs Thor(Starcraft)
Leman Russ(40k) vs 3 Scorpions(Halo)
All vehicles are regular variants.
Do a video about making the perfect super weapon
Death star without the sabotaged flaw, done!
@@CS-nq9sq nah.. More like a machine that can create black holes... Destroy entire solar systems in minutes
*cough* Suncrusher *cough
smitten kitten brutal
@@TXbird007 yea the sun crusher was pretty much the perfect weapon.. Nearly indestructible AND could destroy whole solar systems fast!
Ugh. I love your content!!!! Keep it up, Eck.
This is definitely one of your best videos Eckharts Ladder.
I didn't even KNOW there was a second one. Awesome video, informational and entertaining!
Eck you are honestly the single best youtuber in the world. I have been watching you for years and you countinue to deliver quality content. Keep it up,and keep doing what you love.
Damn! Thanks for the ❤
BringMeTheKoolAid BringMeTheKoolAid his channel is oldest public video is only two years old so you can’t really say you’ve been watching them for YEARS
Btw I love his videos too no hate just pointed out a technicality
Thank you for making these videos.
Thanks for the video 🤙
Very nice looking and nice vid love it
This is a amazing ship. Great video
beautiful images, good video
The dog thing at the end never fails to make me smile
I love your models you make it look so real
Great! No joke i LOVE your vids
Rundown of the UN Spacey fleet from SDF Macross please.
Rebels: this base is covered in overlaping shields, and reinforced with the most durable materials available, its unbeatable
Eclipse: *one shots the base*
Rebel enginner:... I give up
hi ECKs love your great videos can I give you a video idea keep up the great work
Excellent vid Eckharts =) I should've known, that model seemed to have Henry's touch =) I love what he has done with the Eclipse II, however i always preferred the Eclipse I design. About the superlaser firing in a straight line, this subject has been raised several times in other channels and i think it has more flexibility than that, i think it can fire on a 120º or something of a sort on both ships. Regarding the Eclipse II demise, that is one of those times where the writers went over the top, a ragtag rebel team boards the Eclipse and send it straight to Byss colliding with the Galaxy gun and wiping out everything in one fell sweep! COME ON!
The content you never find anywhere else
Always was a blast pairing it up with the Executor and a bunch of TIEs in Empire at War
The Eclipse II was a simple, elegant and visually pleasing design.
Great vid!
Palpy sure had a desire tot overcompensate for something....
XD never miss the outro
Star Wars sure knows how to show how big the galaxy is. There are TENS OF TRILLIONS of beings forwarding the agenda AT ONE TIME. The enormity of these space crafts shows probably MILLIONS of years of space technology development. So awesome.
Love the model, it really adds to the video imo
Great vid of an epic ship
You're the best Ecks.
You have amazing models and Animations
Super, like always ^^.
Je vous adore !
The outro is nice
Gotta love EC Henry . . . before his channel gets taken down again.
Good video!
I love that dog what a cutie , great work ! Ky
It makes for a great background
To this date, you're the only UA-camr that I stick around to watch his outro.
Me: _Has a lab writeup, essay, and 52 reading questions due the next day_
Also me: Ooh big laserr
Hey eckharts what’s the name of the viscount class star defender that was on your mini movie battle of the dreadnought?
Salute to the Greatest Star Destroyer of all time, the ultimate expression of the Star Destroyer line.
great video
That Eclipse II Model is gorgeous.
The Eclipse is like a scythe. It (in theory) cuts through the Emperor's enemies like wheat.
I allways love the ending.
What about a video about starship troopers? The movies were fantastic and I would be interested if there was good lore/data about their navy
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Covenant force used on REACH trying to invade Byss at the height of it's militarization... PLEASE
Gorgeous ship. Imagine seeing this on screen instead of Starkiller Base.
3200 likes and 17 dislikes. Dude, I love your videos. Keep up the good work!!
"almost or impossible to destroy through conventional combat"
the imperium of man and the forerunners burst out of laughter immediately after
Can you make a video about 2 Eclipse Super Star Destroyers vs The First Death Star?
Do a video on the Ultra Super Star Destroyer Imperium.
Not much is know besides it’s price, length, weapons and fight capacity, but thought it would be an interesting one for you to do.
How about Unified Star Wars universe against replicators? I know a guy who will not give up ;)
Gotta love having the 3-in-1 book
Grrrrreat episode!!
Palpatine: See that gun?
Imperial Designers: Yes
Palpatine: MAKE IT FLY
Image a story were Twilight Company infiltrates the Eclipse with R2. It would be amazing
That model is so clean.
it's engines look beautiful!
Do Eclipse II vs Supremacy if you haven't do it before.
Damn, now i want a physical model of the E2!
Is there a lore episode on Tyber Zahn? I’d love to find out more about him other than the info from the EOW game
There's not much else
EckhartsLadder would you kindly consider to make Tyber and his Faction in a lore video? Plz?
Can you please do a battle with the vulture droid (No buzzdroids) vs a TIE fighter
In the remake mod of empire at war, I like to think the eclipse presented is actually the eclipse 3.
It not only has more engines, but also just seems more advanced than the eclipse 2 description.
Eclipse II is the greatest ship built in my opinion
Gloriana
Oh, you meant just star wars
You're probably right then :P
The 3d model looks realy great!
What about the Imperium-Class Ultra Star Destroyer?
@@WizardousChicken was that ever canon?
@@vincediscombe7360
Of course not, do you know the *SIZE* of that vessel?
How Boba Fett led the Mandalorians to victory against the Yuuzhan Vong
Wow im early and great video as always
Did you ever do a video on the Torpedo Sphere?
Never saw this design before. I remember when it came out in the comic and I didn’t like the 2nd design. The first eclipse was perfection to me but now that I see this new render I like this design maybe a bit more.
Can you do a video on the Halo humanity-forunner war?
I would love to see Henry model the Sovereign-class since I have yet to see a good rendition of it.