Creation controversy: How was Grand Canyon created?

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  • Опубліковано 17 січ 2025

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  • @AbbNewton
    @AbbNewton 10 місяців тому +1

    What a wonderful well presented video this is. I love watching your beautiful background while you were talking. Very interesting topic and great job.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      Thanks so much. All of the credit goes to the Canyon itself. Sometimes I can't decide if it looks better in person or on video!

  • @RetirementChallenges
    @RetirementChallenges 10 місяців тому +3

    I tend to agree with the approach that it is not so important how it was created, but that it is there. Thank you for raising these interesting issues.

    • @Matsulovesyou
      @Matsulovesyou 10 місяців тому +3

      Good job, GChiker.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      That is pretty much where I stand as well, but it is also hard not to wonder how it got there.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Matsulovesyou Thank you.

  • @DaveHoffmancowboyhiker
    @DaveHoffmancowboyhiker 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you! I feel like the Canyon is Creations timeline! You videos are always so great!

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      Aw shucks, thanks you.

  • @jimmobley533
    @jimmobley533 10 місяців тому +2

    Interesting

  • @handicappedtraveler
    @handicappedtraveler 10 місяців тому +3

    Very well put you really stimulate some thought

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, you are so kind!

  • @OthmarsVlog
    @OthmarsVlog 10 місяців тому +2

    well done, thumbs up 👍🎇🔥

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you!

  • @nationalparksprincess3216
    @nationalparksprincess3216 10 місяців тому +3

    There is controversy in everything. I'm not convinced it was just the river that formed the canyon, however what I think is not important. As time moves forward there may be further evidence of events that made the canyon. I enjoyed your presentation on the subject 😊

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +4

      Until I did this research, I was not aware of the inland sea theory, which I find interesting, but I do not really think there is a definitive answer, and that is fine by me as what I like most about the Canyon is looking at it and hiking in it. Thanks for your comment.

    • @nationalparksprincess3216
      @nationalparksprincess3216 10 місяців тому +2

      @@GC-Hiker I would agree 😃

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      @@nationalparksprincess3216 😁

  • @hikingoutdoorfamily
    @hikingoutdoorfamily 10 місяців тому +3

    You did a nice job covering all the different ideas around its creation. I agree with you that it doesn't matter that much how it was created. It is such an incredible place and I'm happy that people appreciate it's beauty.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks, that is pretty much how I see it, but there are sure a wide range of opinions about how it got there! I appreciate your comment.

  • @JUANORQUIO
    @JUANORQUIO 10 місяців тому +2

    That's Awesome! Have an incredible week!

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you, you too!

  • @RogerBank-o9j
    @RogerBank-o9j 9 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoyed watching your video. This is a very thoughtful and fair analogy you gave. What a wonderful job you have done. Thank you for sharing this wonderful video. Great work.

  • @magicworldbyjorg
    @magicworldbyjorg 10 місяців тому +2

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much! I have so many ideas and so little time to make videos. . .

    • @magicworldbyjorg
      @magicworldbyjorg 10 місяців тому +2

      @@GC-Hiker Thank you very mutch... have a nice Start of the week.... see you….

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      @@magicworldbyjorg You as well!

    • @magicworldbyjorg
      @magicworldbyjorg 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GC-Hiker Thank you very mutch... have a nice day.... see you….

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      @@magicworldbyjorg 🙂

  • @americanwoman6246
    @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому +7

    The dolphins and whales weren't on the boat because they could swim.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      I took another look at Genesis and I guess there is some ambiguity between the animals that walked the earth and all things that breathe. It still looks like the whales got special treatment!

    • @americanwoman6246
      @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GC-Hiker they were probably excited about the flood... Got to swim places they never imagined... Until all the trash and decay washed into the ocean.. probably wasn't very exciting then... But the oceans are big .. and the earth is HUGE!

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      @@americanwoman6246 I am all for the whales and dolphins getting out for an extended swim!

    • @Stinky97000
      @Stinky97000 3 місяці тому

      How did the penguins get to south America

  • @Matsulovesyou
    @Matsulovesyou 10 місяців тому +3

    I think you were fair and even in your presentation of the positions, but that probably won't make anyone happy.😮. Thank you for the interesting analysis.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thank you, I appreciate your watching and your kind comment.

  • @FrankOldfield
    @FrankOldfield 10 місяців тому +3

    I never knew that about the names of the monuments. That's an interesting bit of history!

    • @Matsulovesyou
      @Matsulovesyou 10 місяців тому +3

      Agree.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, I was in the same boat until I did some reseach. I am happy to share what I learned!

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      @@Matsulovesyou 😁

  • @mikef2571
    @mikef2571 10 місяців тому +2

    Wonderful pictures, great video with very interesting information.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks so much!

  • @melbanks2271
    @melbanks2271 10 місяців тому +3

    That's interesting information about zoroaster, I had never heard of it, or the link to that music.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      I found the link of the name, the book and the music to be oddly interesting! Thanks for your comment.

  • @Mr.DsBackyard
    @Mr.DsBackyard 10 місяців тому +2

    I really like the information about the place names. Interesting video.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks, it seems there is a lot more to the names than meets the eye!

  • @EmilyCoulter-bm1ls
    @EmilyCoulter-bm1ls 6 місяців тому +1

    I am impressed by this video and I thought it was valuable and fair analysis you gave us. I like it very much and thank you for sharing.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  6 місяців тому

      Thank you for your kind comment.

  • @paradigmbuster
    @paradigmbuster 3 місяці тому +1

    The millions of years are estimated years from assuming the sedimentary layers were layed down at the rates we see today. The age is not a measured age.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  3 місяці тому

      I am confident they are all estimates that may be inaccurate.

  • @sheilahenry7279
    @sheilahenry7279 10 місяців тому +2

    Interesting, in-depth enough, not too much.
    You’ll have to visit our “Little Grand Canyon” in Ms. It’s a small day hike but kinda neat it’s here in our flat land. You can google it. It’s named Red Bluff in Foxworth, Ms.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks! I tried hard on this one! I took a look at Red Bluff and it looks fun, unfortunately, I do not get down that way very often, but I will put it on my list. Thanks for your comment!

  • @Briefmeasurement61
    @Briefmeasurement61 5 місяців тому +1

    If you go through the geology museum theyll explain a lot of the geology questions you have. There was likely a river on the west side of the canyon and one on the east side.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  5 місяців тому

      Great idea, thanks.

  • @paradigmbuster
    @paradigmbuster 3 місяці тому +1

    The uplift might not be an uplift but just an accumulation. The layers are completely horizontal throughout its length, instead of curved. I am assuming that they call it an uplift because you have ocean sediments above sea level.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  3 місяці тому

      Perhaps, this is not my area of expertise, but when I drive in from the east side, I see the rise in the land, literally. That is what I think is the uplift.

  • @americanwoman6246
    @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому +1

    The canyon was cut by ancient alien miners. Many many years ago

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      Another explanation, fair enough. Did they leave behind any damaged mining equipment? 🙃

    • @americanwoman6246
      @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GC-Hiker if they did it was covered in water during the great flood and eventually rusted away. Steel only last maybe 6 thousand years. They mined it way further back then that. If you look close you can see the contours of the land that line up with a huge bucket excavator in some places and in other places unnaturally flat cut rocks that don't normally break or erode so .... Flat. I know you probably think I am a troll.. lol.. or a basket case but I have actually studied Google Earth quite a bit and I honestly believe there is a lot more history on this planet then people have knowledge of.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      @@americanwoman6246 Hey, I have no answers, only questions. But why would the aliens use steel? Anyway, I find the Grand Canyon a fascinating place and I love to hike it, no matter how it got there. I appreciate your insights.

    • @americanwoman6246
      @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому

      @@GC-Hiker I don't know if they used steel .. and I'm not sure if they were actually aliens. Could easily be humans or ancient ancestors of humans. The only thing I'm sure about is that I see evidence all over the planet that large areas of land were heavily mined in the distant past. There are "volcanoes" that are really spoil tips all over. And salt flats and terraces on mountains and sheer cut rocks and lots of other things that point to ancient mining.

    • @americanwoman6246
      @americanwoman6246 10 місяців тому +1

      Hey there is a video on the POv channel called impossible ancient geometry or something .. can you explain the blocks

  • @georgehagstrom1461
    @georgehagstrom1461 10 місяців тому +1

    As snowball Earth melted the Rocky Mountains rose, and the waters flowed to the ocean cutting the grand canyon.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      Sounds good to me! I am just happy it is there to hike! 🥾

  • @7inrain
    @7inrain 8 місяців тому +1

    How can we determine the model after which the Grand Canyon formed by anything else than the scientific method? This can only be decided by factual evidence, not by religious folklore. And if we don't have enough evidence to reach a final conclusion, as it is currently the case with the formation of the Grand Canyon - well, we have to continue to strive for new evidence then.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  8 місяців тому

      I don't disagree, but I also acknowledge that the majority of the world population claims to believe in religion. The bottom line to me is that the Grand Canyon is there, and how it got there is really not my primary focus, but I thought I would open up a dialog on the issue. Thanks for your comment.

    • @7inrain
      @7inrain 8 місяців тому +1

      @@GC-Hiker _"I also acknowledge that the majority of the world population claims to believe in religion."_
      That might be the case, however in western societies this doesn't at least deter the people from accepting science as the method how to explain nature. With the notable exception of the US.
      Go to Europe and ask the people how they think the Grand Canyon came about. Only a very small minority will claim that the machinations of a deity had something to do with it. While in the US... well, you only have to look into the comments section for this video. I find this deeply disturbing. In my view this is an indication of something being very wrong with the US education system.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  7 місяців тому

      @@7inrain Again, I do not disagree. It seems to me that science is emphasized in the schools, (at least in my generation) but other values are taught in the home. One of the most interesting and distressing things I think I have learned is that some people can believe that two completely contradictory concepts are both true. But that is well beyond the scope of this video and perhaps UA-cam itself. I appreciate your comments.

  • @charlottewilson4279
    @charlottewilson4279 10 місяців тому +1

    Bible prophecy indicates that the earth is less than seven thousand years. There's a time line found in Daniel and Revelation that all should l👀k into and pray about. . . Nothing really matters except preparing for Christ to return in the clouds to take HIS people away from the destruction of Satan and friends. . . 🤗💝🙏

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      I appreciate your sharing your perspective.

  • @DwayneShaw1
    @DwayneShaw1 10 місяців тому +2

    "Old Earth Creationists" are manipulating what the Bible says. The only way religious people can defend their archaic immoral fairy tales is to twist and manipulate what their scriptures actually say. According to the story - God created light AND divided it into night and day - which means they are referring to VISIBLE LIGHT - not just energy (divided visible light into night and day before he created the Sun, btw)
    The Creation rationalizations about "for God,a day is as a thousand years" is nonsense because the creation myth clearly defines what is meant by a day within the text of the story.
    Genesis 1:3-5 - "And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning-the first day." (I'm no expert on Hebrew or Aramaic, but every time I've looked into religious claims of mistranslated words the claims are shown to be unfounded when taken in the context of the passage - even in English 'day' can have various meanings - but we do not confuse those meanings in context - like "... the evening and morning of the first day")
    The Bible later, in demanding the Jews keep the Sabbath, enforces what was meant by a 'creation day' in Exodus 20:11 - "For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy." There's a huge difference between this verse and the one pulled out of Christian backsides about "a day is as a thousand years". The former actually references creation, the latter is about not knowing the time of the Rapture. Alpha and Omega - completely opposite ends of the spectrum.
    But, even if I grant the idiocy about a day not being a day, we are still left with the fact that the Bible claims Adam was created on the sixth day - who lived 930 years -and begat children, that "begat" and "lived to be" - all adding up to an unbroken chronology of a mere 6000 years since the 'end of creation'- and mentions nothing of the 300,000 years Homo Sapiens have existed, or the other human species in the fossil record that date back millions of years like Homo Habilis, Homo Ergaster, Homo Erectus, Homo Antecessor, Homo Helmei, Homo Neander-thalensis, etc. (which was made in the image of God?)
    Christians are absurdly trying to rewrite the ridiculous myth (that was accepted as literal and unerring for centuries) to fit modern knowledge because it's all they can do to try to prop up their ignorant immoral fairy tale religion. Even though the Bible explicitly tells them not to.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      LOL, that is a mouthful! You know a lot more about this than I, but all I can say it is difficult when faith and science collide. Some of the views attempt to reconcile this, but how successful, it is not for me to judge. Thank you for your comment.

    • @DwayneShaw1
      @DwayneShaw1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GC-Hiker Bio-stratification = Evolution. Period. The End.

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому

      @@DwayneShaw1 Darwin was a clever man.

  • @DwayneShaw1
    @DwayneShaw1 10 місяців тому +1

    Deism is an utterly worthless concept -- A god that doesn't interact with its creation is as irrelevant as a god that doesn't exist

    • @GC-Hiker
      @GC-Hiker  10 місяців тому +1

      Well, some might agree with the later part of your statement, but it is not for me to judge, we are all entitled to our own approach. Thanks for your comment.

    • @brianSalem541
      @brianSalem541 9 місяців тому +1

      My 2 cents worth: God has interacted with creation by sending Jesus to earth to live as a human being.

    • @DwayneShaw1
      @DwayneShaw1 9 місяців тому +1

      @@brianSalem541 - you have zero evidence for a god -- There is also no real evidence for a Jesus - outside of ridiculous stories about a magical being - your comment isn't even worth two cents.

    • @brianSalem541
      @brianSalem541 9 місяців тому +1

      @@DwayneShaw1 You mean zero evidence that you'll accept. Be precise in your comments. And leave out the insults; it adds nothing to the conversation.

    • @DwayneShaw1
      @DwayneShaw1 9 місяців тому +1

      @@brianSalem541 - I mean no objective evidence -- made up claims are not evidence - there is no magic - grow up. And your comment about an Abrahamic god and Jesus add nothing to the conversation because I clearly was talking about Deism, not the absurd doomsday death cult known as Christianity
      As to insults - you pious fools started it by continually insisting i go to hell