medford Marauder vs spyderco pm2 tire cut test
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- In this video I wanted to demonstrate mutable aspects of geometry. As well as the notion that is repeated by many that “thin blade stock cuts better then thick blade stock” witch is ridiculous because there are many more factors that must be taken into consideration.
I also demonstrate the importance of a knife that’s thinner behind the edge, and the huge advantage it has over a knife that’s thicker. The Medford is on average.005 thinner behind the edge then the pm2. And that .005 difference allowed it to out cut the pm2 even tho it has twice the stock thickness.
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/ neroknives
How many trips to the ER have you taken in the last 10 years? :)
Micah Knepper I’m here now :) someone threw a knife at me that landed in my leg 🤫
Yeah I was thinking something along same lines lol if he had one little slip while applying that much pressure to a knife cutting towards himself it would be disastrous! I took my entire knuckle cap clean off with an m390 kershaw link while doing a cut towards myself in the dark and had slipped, luckily I had sharpened that edge myself so sharp that I literally didn't even feel it at all (maybe I was in shock a bit also) but I spent 9hrs in the emergency room getting it sewn up and repaired and still have nerve damage and not 100% movement with that finger lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just posted a dire warning about putting extremities in line with the cutting path. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your comment is way better though.🤣🤣🤣
OMG, I only kept watching to see all the blood, !!!
Is this an infomercial on dangerous knife use,???
Hey! That was so dangerous! Had the knife slipped, it would have gone straight through your leg! Take care, Irène.
try explaining that one when the amb pulls up... stupid move!!
thats why i watched the whole video........waiting......waiting.....DAMN.
I sure hope a 700$ knife would beat a 150$ knife!
Love your actual performance videos. Not just for paper and all that show-off crap.
Hey neroknives, I'm always glad to see another knife enthusiast start a channel, but please be careful buddy, this year was a dangerous one, maybe some chainsaw chaps were in order. Keep up the hard work your doing and I'll stay subbed
Well the next time I need to cut a tire I'll go for desk weight for all my other cutting tasks I'll go for my PM2...
That medford is a beast. Great test thanks. Atb paddy 👍🙂☘️
But does it cut $700 better? Nope.
Both knives made the cut.
One of them costs like $700 more than the other.
i’m not sure if this is only a demonstration of thickness behind the edge. I think there might be two other factors at play. The hollow grind, combined with the thicker stock, may separate the material more easily. The ergonomics may also be a factor in how much leverage you can effectively exert. if you want to only look at edge thickness, just use two of the same knife - grind 1 PM 2 to 5 thousandths and leave the other at 20 thousandths and do the same for a pair of marauders.
4:00 Finally, someone with a shred of common sense
That's putting a knife a knife to work!! Thanks for sharing!
Good video, everyone in the comment section relax with the danger comments.
How did the finish on the pm2 hold up? You didn’t show .
Very informative! Thank you for giving such a clear demonstration of hard use! And all of the additional information you provided during the test helped a lot!
Cutting tires aren't every day tasks. Pm2 is one of the best edc gears to have on daily basis imo but I'm not gonna go hunting with a pm2. That's otuer knive u have is too clunky to carry every day. Differnt tools performs different task better. But for a edc everyday carry I prefer pm2 all day.
Interesting results. Be safe out there
850 vs 150 :) Pm2 is still the best folder for the price
Ti S90V over $ 750.00 and are worth it.Love to see a head to head contest the Medford Marauders vs Cold Steel 4 Max.
Not worth it at all
@@AudibleVisibIe yes it is
I wounder how a Cold Steel Recon or Voyager would do in these tests? Also a plain edge vs. a serrated edge?
Great video with two awesome blades. I pry with my PM2 all the time and it has never even bent. I've even got videos where I baton it with no issues. That Medford is a sweet beast of a blade though. If I ever get rich enough to afford a Medford I'll definitely get one
This was pretty silly. For future reference put the tyre on the ground flat and saw keeping your legs away
The ergonomics is why I was never a fam of the pm2, square edges get uncomfortable quick for any real work. Got to handle a friend's once and just didn't like it.
Can easily round the edges down with sandpaper...
Me too. You have to be in the Benchie n Spydie snob club to but them. I saving for my mkt beast!🔪
Dude the whole time I am just thinking about when is he going to slip and jab it in your leg! I felt like a Nascar fan waiting for a wreck! 🙉
What a great video, and the knife is amazing too.
SurvivalAustria
SurvivalAustria thank you. Glade you enjoyed
Perfect example of when serrations can help
As well as recurve. Both very underrated.
Hi Nero, please don’t cut towards yourself, even if it takes more time and effort to make the cut. It doesn’t take much of a mistake to cause injury. Take care. -Longtime Viewer
let’s see Nick Shabazz actually hard tests his knives on video. he would probably faint just by being outside with his Delica LOL 😂
I don't know why the knife community holds him in such high regard, it doesn't feel deserved at all. Says more about the audience than him though.
Zeldies he is very much into the details of a knife that he overlooks the actual function of a knife. gentiles have invaded our knife community.
@@diocalavera9415 And even his knowledge of the details is questionable because 99% of what he does on a daily basis could be done with a box cutter or a kitchen knife. I'm glad that channels like these exist because you're getting someone who actually tests the knives to the fullest.
Zeldies that’s a good point. might as well carry a box cutter
@@zeldies1976 lol, does he just open letters?
thumb up. cool stuff. lerv your videos and honesty. no BS. one of my favorite knife-related channels. keep up the great work bro!
watching u cut towards yourself like that had me holding my breath. stay safe my friend
In general, you should always cut away from yourself and not towards yourself
It is better to rest the tire horizontal on the ground, use two hands to cut and most important cut away from you (for safety reason).
Take care, be safe.
Nice channel.
This is what a knife knut does for arm day.
Some needs to teach you knife safety, hype brah
Interesting cut test. Not sure that I would think to cut the side wall off a car tire with a pocket knife. But there you go. I love Spyderco knives. It’s the brand that got me started in the knife collecting hobby. However; I do agree that there are reasons why Spyderco can sell some of them at a slightly lower price point then the competition. As painfully demonstrated in your video. Basic square edge design on the handle scales is part of it. Like the PM2. Or. For example. I do really dig the overall design and concept of the Native 5. And I absolutely love Lego. But I don’t necessarily need a pocket knife that has Lego like geometry across the edge of the handle. But to be fair Spyderco does offer the UKPK with great blade steel options and a very comfortable grip. (Provided that you don’t require the slipit to cut down a car tire.) Therefore I suppose there’s alittle spydie knife for just about everyone’s taste and almost every task imagined. Just need to find the right tool for the job. IDK. Maybe a Spyderco Slysz Bowie for tire recycling? Nevertheless. Interesting cut test.
Awesome, awesome video! FINALLY, someone actually hard-using a Medford knife on youtube, just what I've been wanting to see for a while now. I'm slowly saving up money to afford one one day, and this video made me want one even more now lolll. Can;t wait to see the prying video! Oh, and the guy you're thinking of is NeptuneKnives I'm sure.
I came thinking the PM2 would dominate. That was very revealing.
PowerMadHeadBanger well 150$ compared to 700$, id still say it dominates.
Kev 420 I just got it for 380 bucks
@@Jesusiskingamen7 where at
Great video, excellent idea
I think the most impressive showcase of steel in this vid is your balls! Good heart to finish off that tire.
your test case is more of flat vs hollow grind knife
I’d like to make people watch videos like these when they ask “what makes that knife so expensive?” Is it worth it though? Probably not. But still this proves something.
You freakin' genius-- make some new vids, it's been months.
He probably bleed out in the field
@@Banjoandguns I doubt it.
Was anyone else waiting for the "knife in the groin" scene? this guy scary as hell,
btw i love my Metford Marauder
The boy scouts are going to revoke your knife safety certificate.
Funny, since one of the main criticisms of Medford knives is that they are just too thick to slice and cut. your test proves them wrong. thank you! I enjoy all of your videos
idk if this is just thinness bte. The wedge shape of a thicker blade keeps the tire from pinching the blade. Like a axe vs a thin saw.
I usually air the tire up first... just trying to help
JeremyFacelift I put a pump to the it for hrs but it kept leaking out.
What color is the handle on the spiderCo I want to buy one
That is natural G10 or "Jade" G10 color on spyderco exclusives. They are pretty much available on ebay only now but yeah its the sickest looking color they have put out
Pretty sure that ‘fabric’ is Kevlar. Tough stuff!
You’d think I’d learned this by now, how do you determine how many 1000s behind the edge?
Calipers…you don’t need an expensive set either. Even a $50 pair of calipers will give you a reasonable idea
@@manifestgtr thanks
Great video. As always no bull shit attitude. This is a serious testing and real review, no "hard use" paper cutting. Did you consider more videos in benchmade family? Maybe some bm anthem thoughts?
larloh yea I can do the same test with the benchmade. I did the socom vs the military already. And in that video I talk about the ergonomics much more. I’ll be posting that video tomorrow. And I can do a benchmade or two as well. Benchmade generally has better ergonomics then spyderco for harder cutting.
Thanks mate :) I love bm, but they have some flaws, for instance thick blade behind the edge, i have 940-1 with 0,8-1mm edge, on 30 degree total looks more like scandi blade. My anthem have 0,6mm behind edge and i consider this as maximum thickness for any work possible. I don't get why benchmade make they blade so fat
larloh yea they could definitely grind more aggressively on those models. But they also have some models that are thinner then the pm2. The 810, the loco, and the freak are .017 to .015 behind the edge. The vast majority of spyderco knives are .020. So benchmade does actually try to match the grind to the knife better then spyderco imo. Microtech does it the best tho.
Of course we can regrind blades for are selfs, but this is not a point. Maybe as a customers we can force factories too makes blades for cutting and working. I hope this happens. For my luck in Poland we have guy who make blade for popular benchmade models in crue-wear on good price, with edge thin as you want :)
Please don’t cut with your leg behind direction of cut ! We like you!
Dude that is so dangerous cutting like that sir! Omg my butthole was puckered haha please dont do that BUT THANK YOU
I MUST JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE
nice test and i loved how you made every cringe by cutting towards your body. the medford is beastly! MKT makes'em sharp no matter what model-
Great video. This is a good example of why some of the current ideas about blade stock need to be challenged. It seems that knife reviews have devolved to essentially focus on how "slicy" a blade is in terms of its ability to cut through paper or slice tomatoes. While I am not cutting the side walls off of tires, I have found both the Medford Slim Midi Marauder and the Proxima to be useful tools for many cutting tasks both inside and outside I require throughout any given week.
Wtf did I just watch 11 mins of my life ill never get back
That's an Apple and Orange test. The thinner blade will obviously be better.
Thank you for the data point. You are so humble about it 😂. But seriously I appreciate the video. Idea, cutting and twisting through a tire can be a great way to test a frame lock.... cough cough zt 😂
Matthew Forrest any zt would have failed instantly
After testing all my zt's with spine taps, not whacks, and failing, if he had used a zt, this video would have ended in the emergency room.
srg914 yup maybe not with knives like the 0562 cause the flipper tab acts like a guard my 0562 was a damm slipjoint
@@bp-hx9ts My 562 fails, but the worst one for me is the 0393sw. I can give it a tap at the tip, with very little force and the lock disengages. My 0452cf isn't much better.
srg914 I wish zt could get there shit together first they can’t heat treat there s35vn and now they can’t make a safe knife
Try using one of the BM rescue hooks, that would be interesting. Or maybe a full serrated PM2!
This was an epic failure in trying to play up medford knives cutting ability...
I couldn’t agree more , especially using two hands with it most of the time . Doing ranch work for 20 years , this video leaves you with a lot more questions than answers .
Medford knives are beast mode 100. Thanks for giving a great test review video.
Sean H the tip isn’t .015 it’s still thicker then the pm2 at the tip, with more cross section at the tip, also in 3v steel. It’s not the strongest tip ever. But its probably 5 to 6x the pm2
Sean H yes it goes from .020 to .010. But it’s a hollow grind. So ovbs the stock thickness is different then behind the edge thickness. What you’re trying to say would be like me saying a pm2 has .020 stock thickness.
Sean H I get it you don’t like Medford I think they’re good knives. If you want a thicker tip Medford but the tanto problem solved. You’ve made about 20 negative comments about the brand most of witch are irrelevant. If I find a lock issue with Medford I will say it. Will I beat the shit out of one of the most expensive knives in my collection to cause a lock issue. NO not gonna happen.
Sean H Jesus Christ. At the tip the knife is .010 behind the edge. The tip isn’t.010. Just like at the back of the knife the stock is about 5mm but the thickness behind the edge at the back of the knife is .020.
This is my first time on your channel, so how much did you pay for that Medford? Prices I'm seeing are all over $700. My next knife will be the PM2 but if I paid upwards of $700 for a knife it better do better than a $150 knife. Although I do prefer the looks of the PM2.
Not gonna lie, I was cringing so hard hoping the knife wouldn't slip. Great video though if a little scary 🙈
Now this is a true hard use test. Appreciate your effort. Really enjoying all your videos. No b.s. and very informative. 👍
Good honest video......👍✅
ONE MIGHT BE EASIER BUT TOOK JUST AS LONG
Serrated blade I would assume would be better.
Don’t worry about prying nobody would do that.
In the UK the Marauder is three times the price of the PM 2. So is this even a fair comparison. I don't think so. Sorry.
I want a Medford now
This is comparing apples to skittles. Not sure if the purpose is to try to justify to yourself spending 700 on a Medford, but just on blade profile alone the PM2 wasn’t made for that kind of cutting . It’s a slicer . I got absolutely nothing from this video besides PM2 can cut through a tire and wear a glove for comfort. Why you would never use a fix blade with carbon steel is beyond my understanding.
I was cringing when you had your knee right in line with your cutting path against that tire.🥶 If that thing was to slip outtake there,..?...?...E.R. is your next stop. Always keep extremities clear of the natural path while pulling g with all your mite. Seriously. Takes a millisecond to happen.
People in the comment calm the fuck down he will survive no worry
This is great
Boy, Im glad you didnt slip just to make a video!!! you almost cut your nuts off!!! the Medford is a clear winner as it should be... I love the vid, but these are apples and oranges.. you cant put a medford up against a Spiderco PM can you?
Are you talking about vininull the guy from Russia? He has some awesome testing videos. Thanks for your content. Really enjoying it.
I want a Medford marauder ❤️❤️
But thanks for the test and nice review...
Wow! I am saving for the on belay, hope it has the same blade geometry. Be careful!
e，i think the Medford is a tactical knife, the target is humenbody, not for every day use.
Once I used my Boker urban survival to cut throug engine block
Never heard of the "Triangle of Death"?
Wait a second...
You mean to tell me that a thinner BTE knife performs better than a knife with thinner blade STOCK!?
No way man... your fuckin crazy lol
SuperSteel Steve haha. I kinda thought it would work this way, as long as the tier wasn’t gripping the blade stock of the Medford to much. I’ll be saving a tier for bbb knife 🤫
Yeah man you are supposed to cut away from you, it would be safer and easier to cut through these things...
One day...... Medford
which marauder model is that?
righteousbae marauder H I believe. It’s the new standard model.
I have a safe full of Spydies, Medfords and Microtechs and I wouldnt cut a tire with any of them.Nice review!
Gloves?
Pro tip for cutting rubber dip your blade in oil or soap
This is apples and oranges.. mauradee vs shaman is more of a equal test..
Nice video. Love Medford knives.
who cuts tires,,,,,,
Never cut towards yourself!!!
А нож Медфордский классный!;)
Ummm... when do we need to cut tires with a pocket knife!?!?!??!
Never said you did. This was a demonstration of geometry, and the huge impact thickness behind the edge has. Check description
If that slipped, you won’t have a leg
YOU LYIN BRUH! MEDFORDS CAN'T CUT! you probably digitally swapped out the knives to make some point.
this was a great video. do you think the thickness of the medford was a benefit in the cut to basically wedge material out of the way? maybe even the lack of a coating helping it be more slippery?
The thickness definitely wasn’t a benefit. The reason the Medford did better on this test simply because it’s thinner behind the edge then the pm2, as well as the fact that this tier wasn’t testing the geometry of the knives. Meaning that the tier wasn’t actually squeezing the stock thickness. Also the coating wouldn’t have a noticeable effect.
copperjarhead most edc cutting tasks don’t really test the geometry of the knife. So majority of the time any knife that is thinner behind the edge will do better regardless of stock thickness. But if I took both these knives in the kitchen, the pm2 would do far better at food prep. Because a thinner stock is absolutely needed in the kitchen.
Cut away from the body kids.. Unless you want to be called one ball johny 🤣
My Delica 4 in K390 would beat both.