Great video but please please please develop a technique where you can cut away from yourself! The amount of force you're using and the direction it is aimed is right at your femoral artery and popliteal artery in your support leg you could slash yourself with a fatal injury very easily I've seen this more than once in my job as a paramedic. Super test though and I heartily agree as to the Mille and Socom Elite being Stellar!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Or wear protection like gloves or motorcycle chaps or something. I highly commend you for doing the test though man you're mighty brave. I've seriously cut myself one too many times to attempt something like this lol
This video pops up on my feed every so often and still to this day seeing him cut towards himself especially with this much force continues to make me queasy and get nervous. Stay safe bro, please cut away from yourself from now on!
Cutting a tire the way you did is one of the hardest things you can do with a knife. It tests ergos, lockup, blade geometry, edge retention and the coating. Thats was really nice. Thanks for the tests as someone who have cutted tire before I know its brutal.
I've cut a couple tires to test knives and I find it's easier to lie the tire on the ground where you can stabilize it with you foot. I do love these actual use videos thought, this is why I subbed to you!
K-dog701 Actual use, who cuts tires as actual use? Socom all the way, I beat mine and have broken my pm2. Yes, I know this is a military. Microtech is worth the extra $$, honest advice. Good test on edge retention though!
Your channel is fantastic. I love the way you talk and explain things, it's right to the point. You're blunt, exactly how I am, you for sure get a like from me.
I picked up a Socom largely based on your previous videos and I couldn't be happier with it. I don't typically like tip down carry but I've made an exception for that one.
Chris Allison glade you like it. Definitely one of my favorites and I don’t see that changing for a long time. Also the m390 seems extremely well done by microtech.
i haven‘t been following your channel for long but i‘m really enjoying your content! nice to see someone putting these knives through these rough tests to really feel them out! you might have sold me on the socom even though i despise tip down ;) hope to see more great videos from you soon!
Lol, great point made with the tool comparison and I also have that same carpenter's hatchet but I have sharpened mine to a hair popping edge and I use the shit out of it for backyard firepit tasks and yardwork, works great!
Your cutting position gave me anxiety... but nice video, I'm a proud owner of the dlc m4 military and soon to be socom owner (hopefully) once they get back in stock.
Very good observation about the ergonomic differences between the 2 knives. Both knives are are great however I'd certainly agree that due to the handle design of the MT it is superior. Great video, good depth to it...and good job considering so many different things of each blade... you have yourself a new sub sir.
Awesome vid, my birthday just passed I just bought about 7 knives. But since watching your videos I now know I need a SOCOM! (possibly a strider - never heard of it til your videos) Any advice? and can you do another collection update?
I won't comment on how to cut, but I will mention for those wanting to do this test you can look on the tire, and it will say whether a tire is nylon or steel for belts/reinforcement. Comes in handy when wanting to make planters or tire sandals.
Is that socom a satin or stonewashed blade? I want to pick one up but the satin is the one available now. I just think for this knife, stonewashed is a better match.
Hey Vinnie, how do you think the Spyderco Shaman would do on this test? Do you think the Spyderco's Military and Para-Military would perform better if they were thinner behind the edge, and/or had a different grind?
Jason Daniel Stone shaman would have a little less cutting preference. But a whole lot better ergonomics. And I don’t have it any more. I shipped my shaman out to Pete about a week ago. Hopefully he gets it soon. And yes if they where thinner behind the edge there cutting preference and edge retention would go up a fair amount.
@@neroknives1828 Thank you, I am trying to figure out what works well for hard work cutting, these two videos you did on the subject were amazing an a little shocking, to be honest, it has me re-thinking a few things
Jason Daniel Stone opinel would do really good. I think you’d be hard pressed to find something better then the benchmade freak. It’s a little thinner behind the edge then most spyderco knives. And it’s also contoured. I did a tier cut with it and it did really good.
I'd like to see one of your zero-tolerance pocketknives (for example the 0630) on this tire-cutting test. Can I give you a suggestion? Cut the tire with it (the tire) lying on the ground. I think it was extremely dangerous for you to pull the knife (in reverse grip) against your body. I was afraid for you. Thanks for the great stuff in your videos. I'm quite curious about the prying video with the pocketknives. Please use a zero tolerance in this video as well.
try to stand with both legs behind the tire. you could use some blocks to hold it in place. Or put it on a table, set in blocks, and stand in front of it.
That claw hammer is a good multipurpose hammer. The BFH is for when your project needs an attitude adjustment. I suppose the same is true for knives. I would probably be using a utility blade first, so I am curious about that comparison.
How about a finishing hammer vs a sledge hammer. Could you use the sledgehammer to put a finishing nail into some tram? Yea not the best tool for the job tho. But I’m sure people have done it. Vice versa for the finishing hammer. But both are hammers. Just like a delica vs a Medford. Both knives. Both made for something different
I have a lot of knives, and many decades of use. I have at least a dozen Microtechs, including the two Socom Elites I have inbound. I have tried a few Spydercos, and have a couple of their sharpeners. The sharpeners are OK, with somewhat short ceramic rods. I have tried to like their folding knives, but they always come up lacking in ergos, and design, for me. That huge hole near the base of the blade looks like a weak point, and the lock designs don't seem very sturdy. I do have a few of their salt water fixed blades for diving, and a Jumpmaster 2 (?) in the truck that is one hell of a full serrated cutter. Spyderco full serrated blades have made a believer out of me, and I'm adding more partially serrated blades to my EDCs as a result. Have you ever done one of these tire cutting vids withe a serrated blade? That would be interesting....
Cords on the side of a tire are nylon reinforced. Steel would be found under the tread going around the tire. Watching you cut toward yourself drives us crazy. You could have done it moving away from the body. thanks for the video...
I train self defense and fighting movements with folding knives a lot and after just 10 min of training with a certain knife and you'll already be feeling it's hot spots. I bet the same knives you train with would be the same ones that hurt during these tests or a least similar results. For self defense it could turn into a real hard working blood bath, say 3 Pit Bulls come at you. Or 3 or 4 guys strung out on Bath Salts. You need a good grip. I train the same knive in my left hand, my off hand and some knives feel better from one side to the next but often the results are the same.
Nero, you should totally review your signature series socom elite... it is my tactical edc personally, and not many reviews are out there, but the signature series feels different than the production counterparts, not sure if it's just me or my knife but the tolerances on the signature series feel a little bit tighter... not saying the production has loose tolerances nor that the signature series is stiff, they both feel just as smooth in my opinion, yet the signature series feels as though it was made a little bit better... it makes me think they did more than just plate the hardware in bronze, and add a DLC coating on a different blade shape...
@@dyingaintalivin8494 The differences are very minimal, mostly cosmetic from what I understand, but seems there is a small difference in deployment, the standard is super free-droppy yet smooth not quite too loose, contrary MY signature series is not tight by any means and is the smoothest knife I ever felt but the tolerances toward the pivot feels to be tighter, not a stiffer pivot but feels like quality control was more heavily inspected especially toward the pivot, steel free-droppy but generally needs some help
Not towards your leg!! You're freaking me out with the direction your cutting, one slip and you're off to the ER. Please, tire on the ground next time, good video but that's terrifying to watch.
Cruz Rodriguez wouldn’t be able to feel any ergonomic issues with the knives as well. I was really interested in finding out witch would be better out of the two, and describing what I felt.
The stuff that you were cutting through in the side of the tire is Kevlar thread to give the side wall strength similar to rebar in the concrete same principle, and watching you cut through the side of that tire look 👀 like a accident waiting to happen l could see the knife 🔪 coming out with a slicing motion up your left arm cutting your veins or jabbing your thigh on your left 🦵 😲🩸🩸🩸💉💉⚰️⚰️⚰️
Lol you said you're not a fan of jimping on knives unless it's done right. The jimping on the military is done right, and you're not supposed to cut tires with it.
I'd get the socom in a second if not for the tip down clip only. I've never really been a fan of the pm or pm2 at all. Ergos are great but I dislike the blade shape and overall geometry. I guess I'm the 1% of the 99% pm fans.
conCQuence the para need to be tip down nero pointed this out to me the handle is so long that if carried tip up you would have to move your hand forward to open it awkwardly it’s eaiser tip down
You need to watch the movie the edge and pay attention to the scene where the man making the spear cuts his leg then you should know why you don't use knives like that many reasons!!!be careful peace out!!! T.E.N.
Dude honestly if you cut a car tire or cutting hard wood for more than 5 minutes, you should wear gloves.... Spyderco knives are not the most ergonomic knives in the world but they are reasonably comfortable, the jimping is agressive but it is really designed to let you wear gloves when it comes to hard use.... Hence they have the large handle and lanyard hole...
All knifes are not meant to do the same tasks... lol should beer common sense, pocket knifes should just be used for basic cutting needs, I've never been in a real world situation where I needed to beat the shit out a knife, if you gotta chop buy a Ax, if you gotta pry get a pry bar!!
Great video but please please please develop a technique where you can cut away from yourself! The amount of force you're using and the direction it is aimed is right at your femoral artery and popliteal artery in your support leg you could slash yourself with a fatal injury very easily I've seen this more than once in my job as a paramedic. Super test though and I heartily agree as to the Mille and Socom Elite being Stellar!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Or wear protection like gloves or motorcycle chaps or something. I highly commend you for doing the test though man you're mighty brave. I've seriously cut myself one too many times to attempt something like this lol
This video pops up on my feed every so often and still to this day seeing him cut towards himself especially with this much force continues to make me queasy and get nervous. Stay safe bro, please cut away from yourself from now on!
Never trust a guy that cuts towards himself with lots of force and lots of big sharp blade.
I agree. He could’ve badly injured himself
Cutting a tire the way you did is one of the hardest things you can do with a knife. It tests ergos, lockup, blade geometry, edge retention and the coating. Thats was really nice. Thanks for the tests as someone who have cutted tire before I know its brutal.
I've cut a couple tires to test knives and I find it's easier to lie the tire on the ground where you can stabilize it with you foot. I do love these actual use videos thought, this is why I subbed to you!
K-dog701 Actual use, who cuts tires as actual use? Socom all the way, I beat mine and have broken my pm2. Yes, I know this is a military. Microtech is worth the extra $$, honest advice. Good test on edge retention though!
This isn’t actual use. No one really does this with a folding knife
Wow not many people would put their knives through that, thanks for the data, now we know more about how much they can handle.
Your channel is fantastic. I love the way you talk and explain things, it's right to the point. You're blunt, exactly how I am, you for sure get a like from me.
Great testing, thanks for taking the time. Sebenza and SNG would be cool!
I picked up a Socom largely based on your previous videos and I couldn't be happier with it. I don't typically like tip down carry but I've made an exception for that one.
Chris Allison glade you like it. Definitely one of my favorites and I don’t see that changing for a long time. Also the m390 seems extremely well done by microtech.
Appreciate the hard use testing. Nice vid
Love these videos!...be careful as well.
Great videos man!
i haven‘t been following your channel for long but i‘m really enjoying your content! nice to see someone putting these knives through these rough tests to really feel them out! you might have sold me on the socom even though i despise tip down ;) hope to see more great videos from you soon!
Bro that was an awesome display - got a new sub
Al
Lol, great point made with the tool comparison and I also have that same carpenter's hatchet but I have sharpened mine to a hair popping edge and I use the shit out of it for backyard firepit tasks and yardwork, works great!
Surprisingly interesting and entertaining. Dude sometimes your videos approach a lesson in physics.
Your cutting position gave me anxiety... but nice video, I'm a proud owner of the dlc m4 military and soon to be socom owner (hopefully) once they get back in stock.
@Logic Let me know you like it man, I'm still waiting on the stonewash version. I heard 2019 steel will be CTS-XHP from Microtechs website.
Very good observation about the ergonomic differences between the 2 knives. Both knives are are great however I'd certainly agree that due to the handle design of the MT it is superior.
Great video, good depth to it...and good job considering so many different things of each blade... you have yourself a new sub sir.
Awesome vid, my birthday just passed I just bought about 7 knives. But since watching your videos I now know I need a SOCOM! (possibly a strider - never heard of it til your videos) Any advice? and can you do another collection update?
This is making me want a socom a strider is cool just not my thing what did you get
Benchmade 3350
benchmade 3350 again
benchmade 3550
we 613d
spyderco military
kizer megatherium
3 leatherman waves (on sale)
Omega Blk5 why 2 mini infidels
Super 👍
I've cut some tires before, definitely lets you know how a knife does under hard use.
I dont have an opinion either way on these knives-- they're both great-- but that was fun to watch, for sure.
I won't comment on how to cut, but I will mention for those wanting to do this test you can look on the tire, and it will say whether a tire is nylon or steel for belts/reinforcement. Comes in handy when wanting to make planters or tire sandals.
Is that socom a satin or stonewashed blade? I want to pick one up but the satin is the one available now. I just think for this knife, stonewashed is a better match.
Next time you do these I would try a benchmade vs spyderco to demonstrate why a square handle isnt great or a spyderco shaman vs pm2 or military
Hey Vinnie, how do you think the Spyderco Shaman would do on this test? Do you think the Spyderco's Military and Para-Military would perform better if they were thinner behind the edge, and/or had a different grind?
Jason Daniel Stone shaman would have a little less cutting preference. But a whole lot better ergonomics. And I don’t have it any more. I shipped my shaman out to Pete about a week ago. Hopefully he gets it soon.
And yes if they where thinner behind the edge there cutting preference and edge retention would go up a fair amount.
@@neroknives1828 Thank you, I am trying to figure out what works well for hard work cutting, these two videos you did on the subject were amazing an a little shocking, to be honest, it has me re-thinking a few things
@@neroknives1828 How do you think an Opinel #8 would fair? A Mora Classic?
Jason Daniel Stone opinel would do really good. I think you’d be hard pressed to find something better then the benchmade freak. It’s a little thinner behind the edge then most spyderco knives. And it’s also contoured. I did a tier cut with it and it did really good.
More dangerous shit!
Woohoo hoooo! (Grabs beer)
Glad I own both these knives!
Thanks for beating up your hands and knives so I don't have to!
Cark Nelson lol. Any time
Dangerous
You should try the Hogie EX04
I'd like to see one of your zero-tolerance pocketknives (for example the 0630) on this tire-cutting test. Can I give you a suggestion? Cut the tire with it (the tire) lying on the ground. I think it was extremely dangerous for you to pull the knife (in reverse grip) against your body. I was afraid for you. Thanks for the great stuff in your videos. I'm quite curious about the prying video with the pocketknives. Please use a zero tolerance in this video as well.
try to stand with both legs behind the tire. you could use some blocks to hold it in place. Or put it on a table, set in blocks, and stand in front of it.
whats the model of ur watch ?
That claw hammer is a good multipurpose hammer. The BFH is for when your project needs an attitude adjustment. I suppose the same is true for knives.
I would probably be using a utility blade first, so I am curious about that comparison.
How about a finishing hammer vs a sledge hammer. Could you use the sledgehammer to put a finishing nail into some tram? Yea not the best tool for the job tho. But I’m sure people have done it. Vice versa for the finishing hammer. But both are hammers. Just like a delica vs a Medford. Both knives. Both made for something different
I have a lot of knives, and many decades of use. I have at least a dozen Microtechs, including the two Socom Elites I have inbound. I have tried a few Spydercos, and have a couple of their sharpeners. The sharpeners are OK, with somewhat short ceramic rods. I have tried to like their folding knives, but they always come up lacking in ergos, and design, for me. That huge hole near the base of the blade looks like a weak point, and the lock designs don't seem very sturdy. I do have a few of their salt water fixed blades for diving, and a Jumpmaster 2 (?) in the truck that is one hell of a full serrated cutter. Spyderco full serrated blades have made a believer out of me, and I'm adding more partially serrated blades to my EDCs as a result. Have you ever done one of these tire cutting vids withe a serrated blade? That would be interesting....
Do you plan on doing this with he 3/4 sng?
jdmbeaner182 probably the full flat over the 3/4 we’ll see
@@neroknives1828 that would be awesome. Between the 3/4 and the flat grind I'm very interested to see which one is best in this hard use situation.
Socom elite vs Manix xl vs contego?
My dad works at a tire factory and built tires for nearly 20 years the bead in the sidewall is definitely Steel
Cords on the side of a tire are nylon reinforced. Steel would be found under the tread going around the tire. Watching you cut toward yourself drives us crazy. You could have done it moving away from the body. thanks for the video...
I don’t know why spyderco use jimping on the choil I always hated that
The micro on the military is probably closer to 18 per side.
I train self defense and fighting movements with folding knives a lot and after just 10 min of training with a certain knife and you'll already be feeling it's hot spots. I bet the same knives you train with would be the same ones that hurt during these tests or a least similar results. For self defense it could turn into a real hard working blood bath, say 3 Pit Bulls come at you. Or 3 or 4 guys strung out on Bath Salts. You need a good grip. I train the same knive in my left hand, my off hand and some knives feel better from one side to the next but often the results are the same.
Nero, you should totally review your signature series socom elite... it is my tactical edc personally, and not many reviews are out there, but the signature series feels different than the production counterparts, not sure if it's just me or my knife but the tolerances on the signature series feel a little bit tighter... not saying the production has loose tolerances nor that the signature series is stiff, they both feel just as smooth in my opinion, yet the signature series feels as though it was made a little bit better... it makes me think they did more than just plate the hardware in bronze, and add a DLC coating on a different blade shape...
I would really like to know the differences between them before purchasing. Can't find anything besides appearance so far.
@@dyingaintalivin8494 The differences are very minimal, mostly cosmetic from what I understand, but seems there is a small difference in deployment, the standard is super free-droppy yet smooth not quite too loose, contrary MY signature series is not tight by any means and is the smoothest knife I ever felt but the tolerances toward the pivot feels to be tighter, not a stiffer pivot but feels like quality control was more heavily inspected especially toward the pivot, steel free-droppy but generally needs some help
Subbed just for the shear recklessness
Not towards your leg!! You're freaking me out with the direction your cutting, one slip and you're off to the ER. Please, tire on the ground next time, good video but that's terrifying to watch.
I'm a little late to reply, but for this kind of use, it's hard to beat the Cold Steel Recon 1.
I totally open my boxes with an axe
Awesome! I think I will emulate you ⚔️
Why didnt you wear gloves? You knew from the last video. And great videos.
Cruz Rodriguez wouldn’t be able to feel any ergonomic issues with the knives as well. I was really interested in finding out witch would be better out of the two, and describing what I felt.
try mora knife
how is this guy still even alive
And how does he look so good
Сразу видно человека, который ниразу не работал режущим инструментом... Я все думал, когда он всадит нож себе в ногу или вскроет артерию.
3:54. Well this seems safe...
The stuff that you were cutting through in the side of the tire is Kevlar thread to give the side wall strength similar to rebar in the concrete same principle, and watching you cut through the side of that tire look 👀 like a accident waiting to happen l could see the knife 🔪 coming out with a slicing motion up your left arm cutting your veins or jabbing your thigh on your left 🦵 😲🩸🩸🩸💉💉⚰️⚰️⚰️
Cut the tire with the bbb custom you won’t even realize your doing it
bp69 I’m saving one for his knife.
Yeeesh! Cutting toward you like that made me nervous- beware your femoral
Hammer grip that military for hard use don't put your thumb on the jimping for that
Lol you said you're not a fan of jimping on knives unless it's done right. The jimping on the military is done right, and you're not supposed to cut tires with it.
I'd get the socom in a second if not for the tip down clip only. I've never really been a fan of the pm or pm2 at all. Ergos are great but I dislike the blade shape and overall geometry. I guess I'm the 1% of the 99% pm fans.
conCQuence the para need to be tip down nero pointed this out to me the handle is so long that if carried tip up you would have to move your hand forward to open it awkwardly it’s eaiser tip down
Just but it anyways. You won't care after 20 minutes
This guy knows his knives but he’s a meat head when it comes to knife safety
Probably should wear gloves for this type of use mang
simonize251 yea. My hands are already beat up. I wanted to get a good feel of the hotspots of these knives.
The point of the video is to find hot spots.
*cuts directly toward femoral artery*
Amazing isn't it, it's like you can do it and not cut yourself.
I don't trust my spyderco. Will never buy another. Next purchase Microtech Socon manual.
You need to watch the movie the edge and pay attention to the scene where the man making the spear cuts his leg then you should know why you don't use knives like that many reasons!!!be careful peace out!!! T.E.N.
This job is for a serrated knife.
A POCKET KNIFE IS NOT A PRY TOOL !!
ARGGG !!!
Why not?
Dude honestly if you cut a car tire or cutting hard wood for more than 5 minutes, you should wear gloves.... Spyderco knives are not the most ergonomic knives in the world but they are reasonably comfortable, the jimping is agressive but it is really designed to let you wear gloves when it comes to hard use.... Hence they have the large handle and lanyard hole...
you must of been pretty damn pissed to take the persons wheel off be4 you decided to slash their tires!🤣 pretty sure its nylon reinforced
If u would have put an actual edge on the knives they would have cut way better. Very unsafe dude.
May I suggest to cut away from yourself? Otherwise, this is a sick video with some valid scientific data points. ⚔️👍👍⚔️🇺🇸
Socom for the win....
All knifes are not meant to do the same tasks... lol should beer common sense, pocket knifes should just be used for basic cutting needs, I've never been in a real world situation where I needed to beat the shit out a knife, if you gotta chop buy a Ax, if you gotta pry get a pry bar!!
You need to take better care of your hammers and tools dude
This dude is going to hurt himself the way he is cutting. Please 🛑
Interesting how i didn't
neroknives just say you were 🍀
Has no arm hair
Obviously Wrong tool for the job pal
Lol...Microtechs can't cut for #%#@