Timed Exclusivity in Gaming

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  • @wild_Vaporeon
    @wild_Vaporeon 4 дні тому +3

    i just want Optimus Prime tbh

  • @thejoifox
    @thejoifox 6 днів тому +11

    I mean... Yeah, timed exclusivity is a dead concept from the start, cause at the end of the day - we don't own shit in these live-service games. For all I know, Epic can fuck up big time and give everyone all the skins under the sun tomorrow morning, and quickly revoke every single one from every single player to fix the issue. It's all just numbers on a dedicated server, and when a company puts value in it through marketing, communities shouldn't follow suit.
    FOMO is a scary thing, and it's easy to fall into a toxic mindset where you get frustrated not having something, that someone else has, and with no means to get it through not just gameplay, but even purchases. On the other hand, people put artificial value into rare items they "own" since the good old days, often going as far, as to gatekeep newer players over not being "OGs", which is just gross.
    Predatory marketing tactics win again and provide more reasons for players and payers to bite each others' throats out. At this point... Let bygones be bygones, bring back all the timed exclusive stuff in games, no matter how unfair that may seem to some particularly butthurt collectors (collecting is supposed to be fun, there is no fun in not being able to complete an arbitrary "collection" because "you weren't there, and you suck"), it will enable a much more healthy environment in games like Fortnite, and, to be fair, this would never be THE WORST offence a multimillion dollar company can do to their customers~
    Sorry, if my last statement could seem offensive, I often encounter people, who treasure something not for it being cool, or valuable to them emotionally/physically, but for the simple fact of someone else not having it which lets them look down upon those people, or flaunt their "wealth". Which is, once again, gross af imo

    • @monki5315
      @monki5315 5 днів тому +1

      Brother we need more of you on this earth. Well formulated reply

    • @EpiicSoNiickzZ
      @EpiicSoNiickzZ 4 дні тому

      Man this comment is the best one I've ever seen in this very mixed community.

  • @Shrek_Is_Epic
    @Shrek_Is_Epic 6 днів тому +20

    The issue isn’t with the items themselves returning (I’m all for it). The problem lies in how they were originally marketed. Fortnite sold its battle pass content as exclusive and the community understood it that way. Even if there’s a TOS loophole, bringing back those older items would essentially go against that promise, making Epic Games seem dishonest and likely create distrust and outrage in the community.
    Anything from Chapter 5 Season 4 onward is fair game, as Epic Games clearly stated that battle pass items from this point forward will return. Not really about the skins, its about massive companies keeping promises.

    • @arcticiceberg9945
      @arcticiceberg9945 6 днів тому +8

      Fun fact Very few battle pass skins were marketed as exclusive there is a chart showing which were and which weren’t basically chapter 1 season 3-X and all the chapters after it only had a few mostly cross over skins are marketed as exclusive

    • @Shrek_Is_Epic
      @Shrek_Is_Epic 6 днів тому +5

      Exactly, that’s the TOS loophole I meant! Most of us didn’t read the fine print, but years of BP items not returning made them feel exclusive. Regardless of the technicalities, the community believed they were dispite having a gray zone of sorts.
      To me, it’s about holding companies accountable to the expectations and marketing strategies they set at a given time (eg. Fear of missing out). It feels like misleading marketing if they bring them back. I’d love to get Season 4’s BP, but it wouldn’t be fair to the original owners even if they don’t care about exclusivity.

    • @arcticiceberg9945
      @arcticiceberg9945 6 днів тому +4

      @@Shrek_Is_Epic i understand where you’re coming from but I think it’s even more unfair for newer players especially younger ones who were 5 years old when some skins were released not even old enough for the age rating of the game they had no chance and we’re only 5 years off from people who were born after the BR release to hit the 12 year age limit, I’m not gonna say it’s should of played sooner when that person didn’t exist back then, and as an OG skin holder I would not loose any sleep at all if they’re made accessible again

    • @muffetmissulena6540
      @muffetmissulena6540 6 днів тому +6

      In all fairness, with the Fortnite community, they already complain about the most trivial and nonsensical thing. Epic would be put on blast no matter what they do.

    • @Shrek_Is_Epic
      @Shrek_Is_Epic 6 днів тому +2

      I totally get where you're coming from and it’s 100% true newer players didn’t have a chance to get iconic items. It really is a tough balance between fairness for them and honoring the expectations set for the original playerbase.
      Once again for me, it’s less about skins returning or whether OGs care (like you said, you wouldn’t lose sleep) and more about trust. When something is marketed as exclusive (even if just implied) it sets an expectation. Changing that later breaks trust with an already money hungry and profit-centered game.
      I think that if they were to bring back old skins, a middle ground could work - like slightly altered versions of older skins for new players, or vice versa like something similar to the purple skull trooper/reflex situation for original owners. That way, BP owners keep exclusivity while others still get access. I don't think this is perfect, but it would be an acceptable compromise.

  • @Bingies01
    @Bingies01 6 днів тому +8

    Totally agree. I've wanted the doomslayer for ages now, but it was put in a battlepass.

  • @Sunset_Serenity
    @Sunset_Serenity 6 днів тому +7

    I just want the Visitor man.
    He’s the only Seven member I’m missing, he’s cool to me and I feel like I’d use him a lot. He’s an important lore character that’s locked behind a season I wasn’t around at. I never cared about Fortnite until Season 8 of Chapter 1. I see no problem in letting people play with skins they never got. Everyone should have Darth Vader, not just me. What kind of jerk would I have to be to be these kinds of people that defend Battle Pass exclusivity. So moronic..

    • @Buzz.co2
      @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +3

      I am missing the Scientist and The Visitor. I got the Paradigm when she came back to the shop in Chapter 5 Season 3 but she should come back for everyone TBH. I never played chapter 1, I wish I did.

  • @meatbayg
    @meatbayg 7 днів тому +18

    if i had 5 digital dollars id give you 6

    • @RealAlcoholicHorse
      @RealAlcoholicHorse  7 днів тому +5

      If I had 6 dollars I would falsely report my income to the IRS😍

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 4 дні тому +1

      @@RealAlcoholicHorse tax evasion fr

  • @Gavblox
    @Gavblox 5 днів тому +3

    I agree that collab skins should never be exclusive and should return

  • @mitchjoshua5322
    @mitchjoshua5322 6 днів тому +5

    Got to love it when big corpos NEED to have "exclusive" content to keep their money for eons

  • @Buzz.co2
    @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +15

    I wish I could get all the IO and all The Seven. It was a good idea for Epic to make the storyline important years after these skins came out and lock them to old Battle Passes that most players probably weren’t old enough to even buy 🤦‍♂️.

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 5 днів тому

      bro pulled a italy

    • @Buzz.co2
      @Buzz.co2 5 днів тому

      @Abakatum it’s called sarcasm

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 5 днів тому

      @Buzz.co2 you better not be satire

    • @zerobalance4027
      @zerobalance4027 5 днів тому +1

      I mean technically it was solved but it doesn't matter if the majority of iconic characters being put in battle pass being gone forever. I thankfully have every collab battle pass skin but I know that many that can never get iconic characters. If you stopped playing fortnite for one season, you've permanently missed out on getting Vader and Indiana Jones which is ridiculous

  • @PeterGriffin_real69
    @PeterGriffin_real69 6 днів тому +4

    At least fortnite is removing the timed exclusivity for battle passes from chapter 5 season 4 onward...

    • @RealAlcoholicHorse
      @RealAlcoholicHorse  6 днів тому +4

      band aid fix, I want iron man

    • @Speedoodleman
      @Speedoodleman 5 днів тому +2

      @@RealAlcoholicHorsethey literally made a reskin for that reason bro 😭 if you can’t see from the fact that we already have two doctor doom remakes and the amount of collab skins that have been in passes and later got remakes you’re blind
      Groot has teen groot,
      Iron man had the mark 8(?) suit version,
      Doctor Doom has had 2099 and the new battlepass one,
      Non collab skins are GETTING RESKINS
      do you seriously not see what they’re clearly trying to do or what ???

    • @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi
      @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi 5 днів тому +2

      ​@Speedoodleman 1-dr. doom has infinitely better drip than DOOM, the fur collar cape and his cloth/armor look is iconic. 2- they fucked over doom by making him a bonus skin and not giving him access to the super styles literally themed after him

    • @Birds_In_Crime
      @Birds_In_Crime 4 дні тому +3

      ​@Speedoodlemanexcept many of us are attached to THE SPECIFIC version of the character locked in the pass... They can make another Vader, but that won't be the same one that generations have grown attached to for half of a century now...
      Same goes for doom slayer, they can give me a classic one, but I grew attached to the design used in the battle pass. Not to mention these newer versions don't have nearly the same content, bells and whistles as the battle pass variants. Shop Iron man has no built in emote, no basic tony stark style, no glider. It's a direct downgrade in a lot of ways to the original.
      Comic book Spider-Man is another example, though we have many variants of the webslinger they aren't the same character across each skin, Miles Morales, far from home spidey, and Spider man Noir are all entirely different characters.
      Offering a compromise or an alternative is a band-aid solution to fans of these characters. It's like if your kid wanted a copy of sonic heroes, but because you can't find him a copy you instead give him Sonic 06...

    • @Birds_In_Crime
      @Birds_In_Crime 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishiexactly, they're selling an inferior product in place of the original that people clearly love more. While I adore DOOM, I don't think he is at all a serviceable replacement to Doctor Doom from chapter 2 season 4, not only is that doom more comic accurate, he also had the accessories that sold and characterized him as doctor Doom, victory von doom along with the arcane energy glider and contrail.
      DOOM is not the same doctor doom we have grown to love.
      Fans of the character should get the option to have both if they so choose.

  • @Buzz.co2
    @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +9

    I just want Peely tbh…

    • @Speedoodleman
      @Speedoodleman 5 днів тому +2

      He has like a million reskins and I feel like if he gets one in season 8s og pass it’ll be a lot more accurate (they should just make him green??? Why haven’t they done that yet 😭) this is like the one skin that REALLY doesn’t need to be apart of this argument

    • @owenhans3633
      @owenhans3633 5 днів тому

      If you have peelverine then you are good. Use the classic peelverine for the most authentic experience

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 4 дні тому

      @Speedoodleman most of his reskins are dead used by nobody and scheiße

  • @muffetmissulena6540
    @muffetmissulena6540 6 днів тому +9

    Wasn’t this problem already solved with Chapter 5: Season 4? I mean, it still massively sucks that old battle pass items won’t return, but everything from C5: S4 and onwards (like the Marvel stuff, Baymax, and Godzilla) have a chance to return to the item shop after some time. But it still doesn’t solve the issue of past cosmetics/collabs. But I agree with another comment that this video was poorly researched.

    • @ryanfares263
      @ryanfares263 6 днів тому

      Plus the OG pass can return too

    • @monki5315
      @monki5315 5 днів тому +2

      This is more of band-aid fix at best

  • @FranchoMT
    @FranchoMT 6 днів тому +7

    as someone with battle pass from season 3 to season 4 from chapter 1, would not care if epic just put the whole pass for a higer price and without in the shop, you can't sell or trade them, so there is no point in making it exclusive

    • @Buzz.co2
      @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +2

      Facts, I agree

  • @Sensor_Beam
    @Sensor_Beam День тому

    I'd say this for only BP owners who have incomplete sets of skins/items that they were trying to get right before their specific season ended. It's probably because IRL they have important matters to deal with and not enough time to stick to playing a game all day. It would be better to give the BP owners what they're missing and not leave their skin sets incomplete.
    But it depends, like let's just say if they only played the season right before it ends, but they manage to get all the BP base items but not the special awards & secret (secret then but bonus nowadays) awards, then I'd say have them grant it to them because that player did participate in the season.
    And if a player jumps in the new season right before it ends BUT have like 25% of the base BP earned, then no don't give them all the items but only grant the remaining items they were currently grinding for on the current page they were on.
    Since we can't sue them alone, I suppose a large audience bands together or a massive corporation (Disney since they own Marvel, Star Wars and Fox; along with Sony) would have its attention on Epic so that this issue can be addressed because people only play just for the character they want to play as, and not wait decades until a rehash of a past skin gets released in the shop. We'll be dead by then if Epic takes too long.
    Idk I'm probably too stupid to think about this, this may be a dumb idea. I don't even know if petitioning works anymore. This is just my take.
    btw, I like your voice, reminds me of videogamedunkey, which I like too.

  • @nagolloop935
    @nagolloop935 6 днів тому +1

    Light side Vader would be a cool skin idea for fortnite

  • @Happysecret180
    @Happysecret180 5 днів тому

    I uave the easiest solution, simply after 18 months of the pass' end or if it has been that time for an older pass, they can release in the shop for a larger price.

  • @negentropyagent7337
    @negentropyagent7337 5 днів тому +1

    Bro, i care about the fortnite lore and even i dont give a fck about that peely wolverine skin lmao

  • @jeremiahelijah1224
    @jeremiahelijah1224 День тому

    I don’t play apex anymore but I remember wanting the tier 100 s7 r9 skin but I didn’t buy the bp the they released a recolor for 40 dollars

  • @doughbird4356
    @doughbird4356 4 дні тому

    I just hope with the popularity of marvel rivals that other games copy it's stance on battle passes but that is just a far off dream

  • @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi
    @rinnnnnnnnnnrinRinOnishi 5 днів тому

    I really want actual Dr. Doom, iron man, darth vader, indiana jones, og peely(i love bananas), mandalorian, geralt and doom slayer. His white color alt specifically

  • @iwuvlatinas
    @iwuvlatinas 8 днів тому +7

    I gave you 5$ give me attention

  • @FuzzStar
    @FuzzStar 5 днів тому

    I wish Fortnite brought old passes back for og, remix passes are fine but only 3 skins from each season is very limiting. Fortnite won’t bring back old passes because people finna bitch about it ngl

  • @LucidISBACKINEDITING
    @LucidISBACKINEDITING 5 днів тому

    I just want iron man and meowscles bro..

  • @Godly_Severance
    @Godly_Severance 6 днів тому +3

    I recently fell in love with The Mandalorian and now i can never get him

  • @Sammy-bj7ff
    @Sammy-bj7ff 5 днів тому +1

    5:48 bros comparing food to fortnite skins

  • @XDSCoN13X
    @XDSCoN13X 6 днів тому +1

    i would sell my soul for a fortnite demi skin

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 6 днів тому +1

    They should make a New Vader Skin without his Helmet.

    • @Buzz.co2
      @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +3

      Most people only know his helmet design. If Epic did that then many people would complain since it is the less popular look. Many casuals would just ask, “Why doesn’t he have his helmet?”

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 5 днів тому

      Better with a style tho

  • @pawelzawrotniak3826
    @pawelzawrotniak3826 6 днів тому +10

    I only agree with your statement cause I would kill for the wastelander magneto bundle

    • @MonkeFive
      @MonkeFive 6 днів тому +2

      It can literally return?

    • @pawelzawrotniak3826
      @pawelzawrotniak3826 6 днів тому

      @MonkeFive I wish it did

    • @MonkeFive
      @MonkeFive 6 днів тому

      @pawelzawrotniak3826 It definitely will it's gonna take some time though

    • @vernal5545
      @vernal5545 6 днів тому

      @pawelzawrotniak3826it is coming back though, just gotta wait a while

    • @timothyisstupid
      @timothyisstupid 6 днів тому

      ​@MonkeFiveNo, it can't. Just like all the other battle passes, it can not return. Sadly

  • @Buzz.co2
    @Buzz.co2 6 днів тому +2

    Skill issue with Octo Expansion ngl.

  • @VenturesBoyToy
    @VenturesBoyToy 5 днів тому

    NOOOO I WANNA KEEP MY EARLY APEX SEASON BP WEAPONS 😭

  • @fightertateloginwilsonn8199
    @fightertateloginwilsonn8199 6 днів тому

    8:02 ok got it, so can i have weapon of mass destruction.

  • @Dp_S_cool
    @Dp_S_cool 6 днів тому

    i need my goat vi (even though she isnt a battlepass)

  • @MonkeFive
    @MonkeFive 6 днів тому +30

    This video literally is complaining about an already partially fixed issue. If you had slightly looked into this topic, you would know that Fortnite is ACTUALLY working on the so called "overwatch battle pass system". They have made the recent battle passes non-exclusive and have stated that they will be available for purchase two years later. How does this video not include this? Of course, they cannot make old battle passes return to the shop as that will upset a large majority of the Fortnite community. They know this and are trying to strafe away from exclusivity. Evidence is they brought the FNCS pickaxe a bit ago to the shop, because that wouldn't affect many people negatively and many people wanted it. Your point is completely incorrect and has little to no research put into it.

    • @fuckspeds
      @fuckspeds 6 днів тому

      this is true because fortnite is the only game with timed exclusivity

    • @mattgingc.8054
      @mattgingc.8054 6 днів тому +22

      dude chapter 5 season 1 ended when I was a page from the tv backpack. I just want to have a GIF of Peter Griffin and a chicken fighting in my back while I play fortnite. I'm sorry for having to study to have a decent future but I think his point stands

    • @TheCoolerSans
      @TheCoolerSans 6 днів тому +12

      @@mattgingc.8054 Let this man has his Peter Griffin and chicken fighting backpack

    • @MakeShift1408
      @MakeShift1408 6 днів тому +9

      People who bought the battle passes might not of finished them, no one remember omega lights? Or how epic nerfs XP. Not to mention in like 3-5 years their will be players who couldn't play because they weren't born💀 like is it their fault for not being born earlier?

    • @PeterGriffin_real69
      @PeterGriffin_real69 6 днів тому +1

      ​@@mattgingc.8054did somebody say my name?

  • @doughbird4356
    @doughbird4356 4 дні тому

    Legendary name

  • @MicroBurrito
    @MicroBurrito 6 днів тому +1

    I need a spidergwen skin or a new skin for spidergwen

  • @XDSCoN13X
    @XDSCoN13X 6 днів тому

    amazingl ove you deserved my liek and sub

  • @Abakatum
    @Abakatum 5 днів тому +3

    "B-but bringing baeck the old batol passes would be false advertising, lose the value of the skin and the FTC would sue them, your just a entitled newgen u missed the fun part lol cry you shoudl got it back in de og days 😂😂😂'' 🤓🤓🤓 - mfs like klarque clint and caspy or 1/10 ragebait commenters on fortnite videos like unknown comrade or sancifest, or basically gatekeepers or account buyers crying

    • @Birds_In_Crime
      @Birds_In_Crime 4 дні тому +2

      There is nothing preventing them from bringing these skins back, and you wouldn't be able to sue Epic on any legal ground whatsoever since you would need to prove that you incurred damages. the FTC wouldn't care either and the only reason they put epic in hot water was because they violated coppa regulations and made their item shop predatory and anti-consumer friendly with not allowing people to confirm their purchases or allowing proper refunds to parents who's children may have used their money without their knowledge. An issue ENTIRELY seperate from battle pass exclusivity and "false advertising"
      Saying this as a Business Law student, these losers have only their selfishness as a reason to keep these skins forever locked away. Talk to any lawyer If you don't believe me, there is nothing preventing epic from bringing these back. The cherry on top being that WE DON'T LEGALLY OWN THESE ITEMS

    • @Abakatum
      @Abakatum 4 дні тому +1

      @@Birds_In_Crime I honestly agree with you, I was just mocking these pathetic entitled gatekeepers. Btw W take and comment and also W business law student

  • @NEONZEUS
    @NEONZEUS 6 днів тому +3

    baymax isn't exclusive 🤦

    • @Josiahscringe
      @Josiahscringe 5 днів тому +1

      Bruh hes in a battle pass... i think hes exclusive

    • @Speedoodleman
      @Speedoodleman 5 днів тому +2

      @@Josiahscringeno??? Everything after chapter 5 season 3 can return after 18 months

  • @charlesbomerschein9707
    @charlesbomerschein9707 5 днів тому

    I love how the thumbnail and the title contradict each other. Not wasting any more of my time. You weren't playing during that time? Oh well. Timed exclusives will ALWAYS be part of these online gatcha FOMO experiences. I missed the first 6 seasons of Fortnite. Like bruh, get over it. And to everyone who is complaining about "Battle Pass" or "Timed Exclusives" needed to be brought back, if they all came back tomorrow, you'd probably STILL complain.
    "I don't have the money rn, Epic. Why'd you bring it back when I can't afford it?"
    Y'all missed out on WW2. You want that timed exclusive to return too? 🙄

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    @bossythe3rd707 6 днів тому +1

    pin my comment

  • @Banditnova
    @Banditnova 3 дні тому

    Can you pin me please!!!!

  • @Pygs
    @Pygs 6 днів тому

    Pin me (im freaky like that)

  • @OverlordChuck
    @OverlordChuck 6 днів тому

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