This is a general rule for video games. If you play games and not having fun and paying a subscription....you should stop or play smthing else, it s bad for health
I literally did not grind a single run for the dagger as soon as I saw people cry about drop rates I knew they would buff it 😂 mam they are so predictable it's scary
i like how blizo did an epic battle with bots but causing the biggest inflation ever with blind incursion releases. No way u have gold to make an alt if you are late to the party
lmao u can make hundreds of gold in one day of grinding through various methods. People who want everything giving to them with no effort jesus thats why so many games go in the gutter when the devs just follow what ppl say. "Omg i have to spend 10 hours to make 600" = impossible just impossible literally not doable. What a joke.
@@Joeda89 Right, my bad. Blizzard should make everything shitty and promote the use of 3rd party add ons to make the game enjoyable. That makes total sense.
The "glitch" is not a glitch, it's exploiting the pathing which always existed in the game and was widely tolerated by Blizzard. The incursion farm is no an exploit at all on the other hand. Just a minor automation which is a QoL.
@@Naeinsengimnida Right so my point still stands. One is clearly an exploit as you just said but isn't presented as one and the other is clearly not an exploit yet he says it is.
I think overall Blizz just totally dropped the ball with Incursions. Rewards needed to be better, farm needed to be more difficult and gold should have been less of a factor.
Off topic but here's something to dig in to..... @target works for gamepad users to instant target floor based aoe effects at the target (nades, hunter traps mage aoe etc) like if you use a gamepad/controller...you don't have to aim them There's now talk that you can do this without needing to use a gamepad, how exactly, i don't know (spoof/trick the game in to thinking you have one active i guess?) would make landing things like hunter traps a lot smoother.
They are fine for casuals to make some gold. The people who benefited the most would've made the gold anyways through other means. They could cap the quests to a certain limit but i'm not sure it's such a good move
@@Naeinsengimnida"making gold via other means" probably still would have translated to mostly earning gold that is already circulating. The reason incursions were devastating was that they were literally printing gold, and very fast. Most people aren't making 700+ RAW gold in a 6-10 hour grind. There's also really no gold sink this phase (because people cried about it last phase I'm sure), so none of that gold is getting deleted from existence.
@@belavet "Other means" is the gold from farms which isn't "circulating" you are creating your own money and printing it. And it's infinite unlike you credit card. Yeah now they are playing the game instead of swiping their credit cards. It's still an improvement. Look at the big picture. Not happy when people discover good farms, not happy when devs give you an opportunity to get golds easily. What i noticed the people complaining the most about golds are those who aren't making any. There's a moment you gotta stop transferring the responsibility to developers for your misery. And btw get your numbers straight it's 600g in 4h.
F take... blizzard is just laughing to everyone that spend gold for these runes in p1 or 2, good to know for future dont spend any gold on something new, just wait blizzard will give it to you for free...
I somehow miss how that thing with the addon and quests is bad and blizzard must fix it??? The addon is great the whole event without the addon is a horrific experience.
The add-on is definitely not against any blizzard policy… if they outlaw this out they would also have to get rid of Questie and pretty much any addon that interfaces with macros (Rested XP uses the exact same mechanism to target quest mobs)
@@masonnelson5338 Exactly. It is badly designed content that no one enjoys, but that is (still) OP in terms of farming gold and XP, so everyone must do them.
I was doing the seed farm until raid reset this morning and it was still dropping as frequent on whelps. They also announced a 50% drop increase so that should tank the price of seeds quickly
Good because fcking blizzard makes you don’t only need 5 dreamdust every 30min for enchanter profession bonus, you also need 1 seed every half hour for raiding. No idea what they were thinking with this but I hope everyone exploits this shit hard and the prices go like 1 gold per seed
I REALLY hope they do the same with with Sul'thraze as they did with the Serpent Striker. They completely gutted an iconic collection weapon just to make it better for paladins.
I farmed Hinterlands A Lot ok, probably one of the ppl who did it the most before nerf with over 2k emerald chips (you can do the math at 2.5g-3.5g per chip) I've spent it all now so it wasn't even infinite gold... Epic shoulders (lw 250) epic bracers (engi 250) 25 agi enchant, raid consumes, and darkmoon sandstorm deck and I'm down to 300g again
Any good place to level up? No one wants to run dungeons with non-50s because of WO. Incursions are not fun at all, so I avoid them. Aside from running gnomer every 3 days, my only thing I can do now is quest. Are there any alternatives?
Complains incursions are top strong, asks for nerfs. Gets nerfed and complains next video about it not being worth it and rewards being too low. Next video, complains people are getting too much rewards and asks for nerfs. Rinse repeat.
Blizzard loves to "fix" things so that a bulk of people get screwed and have to farm 20X as much to get what people figure out in the first day or two on a new patch.
The sharing addon is not the problem its just a symptom. It wouldnt exist if the system it self wasnt that fricking annoying. Why do I have to click 18 * 5 times just to share quests, thats just ridiculous.
I mean, the nightmare incursion quests just work in a horrible way. The opening and sharing of all the quests and then managing inventory space... super annoying.
I haven’t played much since launch and feel like my drain life is different with the master channeler rune - do you know if they changed it recently? Feels shorter + can’t “cast” it while moving
Where is the confirmation that boed is buffed??? It’s not in the blue post and no dev said anything about this. I don’t trust random people say it got increased. Mage discord said it’s 2% at p3 release already and many posted it dropped for them. Need a dev confirm it before I do more than my daily 20 runs for it.
I'm getting kind of tired of this Season of Beta testing. Why does blizzard so badly need PTR when so many other games like poe can release feature complete expansions without having to completely redo everything every 2 days. That was enough to keep me frustrated, but the straw that broke the camels back was the incursions. Why, blizzard... why? These single handedly destroyed the economy, and I've had to spend everythign I've farmed so far just to keep up with a lackluster raid with not so great loot.
All the 'make it easier' patches just punish you for playing the game. Everyone should just cancel their subscription for the first month of a phase and come back for the second month when everything easier and faster.
if it is content no one is enjoying, but everything feel obliged to do to keep up - with or without addon: Please nerf it to the ground so we can get back to playing the game proper. Incursions are destroying SoD. Just admit you made a mistake Blizz, and nerf it to the ground. Those who enjoy doing them can do them for enjoyment. Pretty sure that will be a very very tiny segment of the population.
they fucked up the economy so bad that the only way for someone with a full-time job and any responsibilities in life to keep up is to buy Gold. great job blizzard.
@@Muranight WoW is a video game. Just because you have zero responsibilities in life does not mean you should confer an advantage over responsible members of society who are seeking video games as an outlet.
I was all in on the Rune discovery but as you level alts from level 1 currently you will find that some of the runes are IMPOSSIBLE to do solo. I think when a new phase starts the old runs should just go onto the trainer or rep vendor. People just want to play the game!!!! Those to say but the story, dude I haven't read a single thing on any of my runes... I just want to play, run dungeons and raid with others. Good change on the Ratchet runes but they all need that type of fix.
But… isnt finding runes = playing the game? Thats the big part of SoD isnt it? And no I dont think older runes should be just handed out for free, sounds very boring and retailish. And there are also new players coming all the time, shouldnt they have the SoD experience? But the Ratchet rune was indeed very tedious to grind or expensive to buy, I agree.
@@Dontdissmybio Log on the game at 5am-9am est and find a group? most online are bots and nobody wants to help...they too busy grinding rep and the rest are just raid logging. You guys use the retail argument but hate to tell ya but retail is a hell of a lot harder than sod.
I saw the huge zerg in Hinterlands by alliance, was easily 200 players all stacked on each other, thought they were bots until they ganked me, i know what you're thinking, 200v1 no way.....
The amount of times SOD has fucked over the economy makes me not wanna play. Whats the point mining, herbing or trying to get gold when people are abusing certain systems to gets 1000s of golds. And now enchants and such cost like 300g to do cause these ppl abusing the systems.
We talking Paladins 👀You Best LOCK IT IN 🔒 In seriousness though, it doesn't answer the main paladin issues but yes the mana regen is nice, but I think there gonna hit another patch addressing mana dependency overall with this phase and later phases.
My raid team raided tonight we cleared it all and farmed 64 nightmare seeds and 29 átali mojos. We also had 2 ret pallys in raid The mama return is super over powered when I would normally use about 15 mana pots I only had to use 3
@ Sarthe, what would be the BIS enchant for melee hunter currently? +15 agility 1h or +15 strength 1h? Thanks for your time and all of your SoD content.
dude. the princess dagger dropped for me on my FIRST RAID I have opened on my mage... MY FIRST RAID... IT JUST DROPPED ... and I didnt HR it. I was in a raid... farming it. old leader went offline and I got lead (opened the ID with lead) I wanted to write: things changed now. dagger HR if u stay fine if u wanna leave GTFO (half way was cleared so ofc people would have stayed)... I refused to do it... I had a WHISPERING INSIDE OF MY MIND a voice told me LOCK THE DAGGER... and it dropped... and ofc I didnt won it... a total casual mage got it... FFS... he is never online... I gonna go farm it again...
yes, for how long are you playing the game ??? probably joined before season 3 start , am i right? otherwise you would now WHEN the weekly maintenance has been for the last 15+ years
It seems like every uniquely horde thing is being given to alliance with the exception of some totems. Like I understand alliance had less mana regen but they have utility like BOP where is that on horde side tbh I don't get why in an era where "class diversity" is important that everything needs to be on both factions to make it feel "fair" it just feels weird there should be unique advantage to being horde or alliance that's kind of the point of both factions not having access to both classes.
Are you trolling?????? Horde got shamans way stronger than paladins, many totems, better damage racials, will get FREE WEAPON BONUS on top of their already better racials. So the only racial advantage at all alliance has from humans. They also got kings which was alliance only. Now tell me what are all the things alliance got please! It’s the first time I’m not horde on classic and I feel scammed since start of p2 when shamans got buffed because horde has everything you need but more and better. Who cares about bop when it’s impossible to pull Aggro with this alpha buff of shamans and you can’t take of any mechanics with it in classic.
Alliance racials are completely fine and each serve there own unique purpose idk what measure you are using but many of the top DPS players are alliance so the difference can't be that huge. Paladins have gotten the most spells to work with running almost parallel to a wrath level paladin kit and warlocks/paladins/shamans and even druids all have no issue with threat generation single or multi target if anything warrior is struggling a little behind right now threat just isn't hard to maintain anymore. Sure paladins aren't the top dps class but neither are shamans warriors/hunter/rogues are out performing both. If you think horde getting 10% stats is the same as alliance getting wild strikes that's just wrong there's a massive gap in the power swap there and wild strikes made windfury look like poop in comparison on horde side as well.
@@Ministeroffate bro paladins are dog shit every spec sucks. They only had their buffs. It’s not that they are like the worst melee, they are also the worst healer and tank. On every character I have to stop dps at some point when a paladin tanks, even my hunter pet without taunt pulls Aggro sometimes. And no, alliance racials are not fine. Orc and troll are the only damage increasing racials in the game and both are horde. Alliance only has the advantage from weapon skill which will be complete free to get for every race so if you don’t see how broken orc and troll will be in pve you’re out of your mind. Also undead by far the best pvp racials against classes that fear and orc against classes that stun. My problem is that you say alliance get everything while horde is by far superior in every aspect of the game, while in original classic alliance was better for pve. So obviously horde got more good things than alliance otherwise it wouldn’t be completely shifted
Pointless conversation "paladins are bad because I think they are bad" there is plenty of good paladin players and the class offers amazing utility. Alliance had better gear quests in p1 and p2 but there's no point getting in to detail you are too convinced horde is better without any facts to back it up other than speculation. Check WCL prob 60% of top 50 dps for p3 are alliance the racials aren't as big as you think they are.
Did they buff the sword drop rates in ZF? I saw 2 in one run and then 1 again later in the day. I've seen that thing more in one day than I have my entire life.
It was insanely buffed since start of this phase. Every paladin I know or talked to had both swords in 10-40 runs. No way that this would be the case if they have the under 1% per sword drop rate
man ive seen that swords drop so many times over the years, theres just no way that listed chance is correct it feels more like a 8% drop chance or soemthing over my hundreds of personal runs there
too late imo. half our guild left after the economy got fucked from incursions. the fact that shadow priests are still not very viable for pve this late into the game is making me want to quit. One of the main reasons I got into this season of discovery is that I was excited to play shadow priest in classic raids. it is what it is.
God forbid they actually test the game theyre making.... completely ruined something that couldve been so good. This is "World of Warcraft: Retail in Azeroth"
I dont honestly know why people are so heavily invested in SoD trying to get everything etc because after p4 the season will most likely end and all the shit you did is irrelevant.
As soon as they nerfed Sunken Temple I get so bored from SoD and now it’s so easy to one shot the raid and talking about a real challenge? “See you in next episode” 😂
What i learned from SoD is that you should not invest any serious time or effort on anything since it will be given to you for free after few weeks.
agreed and i hate this system
This is a general rule for video games. If you play games and not having fun and paying a subscription....you should stop or play smthing else, it s bad for health
@@simionpaul3935 General rule in new video games. Real untouched classic WoW is still difficult and rewarding game in its own way.
I literally did not grind a single run for the dagger as soon as I saw people cry about drop rates I knew they would buff it 😂 mam they are so predictable it's scary
It's also nice for people catching up to X phase. There are way more than you think
The lockout bug being patched is another exploit early and often moment
seems to still work for me?
The economy stuff is just really depressing...
I feel bad for the guy in our guild that did 500 solo Princess runs to get the dagger.
I dont. Thats madness
@@rastax123 _I feel bad for the guy that stabbed his hand 500 times with a fork_
Why feel bad? He obviously does not respect his own time at all.
I don't. He probably had disenchanting and made 3k gold
@@Rustyrobes considering small brilliant shards are worth 1s each on most realms....i doubt they made money w/ enchanting lol
incursions completely ruined the phase 3 experience
100%
You can’t even do them at all if the other faction has complete control over it. You just get rolled constantly
@@ismashgood pvp realm lol
The most lazy garbage content ever.
Phase 3 sucks hard for me... Sadly
i like how blizo did an epic battle with bots but causing the biggest inflation ever with blind incursion releases. No way u have gold to make an alt if you are late to the party
lmao u can make hundreds of gold in one day of grinding through various methods. People who want everything giving to them with no effort jesus thats why so many games go in the gutter when the devs just follow what ppl say. "Omg i have to spend 10 hours to make 600" = impossible just impossible literally not doable. What a joke.
It costs gold to make an alt?
Why would they get rid of the add on? All it does it make it so you don’t have to go through the extremely tedious process of managing the envelopes
The envelopes is intentionally supposed to be annoying and slow you down.
Whats wrong with an addon? You still have to do the quests. You dont have to do the annoying bag management/share quest task.
It’s a barrier to entry. If bag management sucks, Blizzard should make it better
amen
@@TheJazzy7 thats not how addons work bud
@@Joeda89 Right, my bad. Blizzard should make everything shitty and promote the use of 3rd party add ons to make the game enjoyable. That makes total sense.
What’s the add on name?
Got my blade after 250+ runs today within 10 runs after reset
Optimizing the incursion farming somehow equals exploiting but solo farming the raid using glitch spots to reset the mobs is all good? Ok Sarthe 😂👍
The "glitch" is not a glitch, it's exploiting the pathing which always existed in the game and was widely tolerated by Blizzard.
The incursion farm is no an exploit at all on the other hand. Just a minor automation which is a QoL.
@@Naeinsengimnida Right so my point still stands. One is clearly an exploit as you just said but isn't presented as one and the other is clearly not an exploit yet he says it is.
If incursions were designed properly this optimisation of incursions wouldn't have been needed
For real, bad take.
I think overall Blizz just totally dropped the ball with Incursions. Rewards needed to be better, farm needed to be more difficult and gold should have been less of a factor.
Off topic but here's something to dig in to.....
@target works for gamepad users to instant target floor based aoe effects at the target (nades, hunter traps mage aoe etc) like if you use a gamepad/controller...you don't have to aim them
There's now talk that you can do this without needing to use a gamepad, how exactly, i don't know (spoof/trick the game in to thinking you have one active i guess?) would make landing things like hunter traps a lot smoother.
Damn dude… our warlock tank spent 10 days grinding for that dagger. That kind of sucks.
the Incursions was a big mistake when added to this season
They are fine for casuals to make some gold. The people who benefited the most would've made the gold anyways through other means.
They could cap the quests to a certain limit but i'm not sure it's such a good move
Huge fail in both design and gameplay, not to mention the insane exploits and inflation from the gold it brought in.
@@Naeinsengimnida"making gold via other means" probably still would have translated to mostly earning gold that is already circulating. The reason incursions were devastating was that they were literally printing gold, and very fast. Most people aren't making 700+ RAW gold in a 6-10 hour grind. There's also really no gold sink this phase (because people cried about it last phase I'm sure), so none of that gold is getting deleted from existence.
@@belavet "Other means" is the gold from farms which isn't "circulating" you are creating your own money and printing it. And it's infinite unlike you credit card.
Yeah now they are playing the game instead of swiping their credit cards.
It's still an improvement. Look at the big picture.
Not happy when people discover good farms, not happy when devs give you an opportunity to get golds easily.
What i noticed the people complaining the most about golds are those who aren't making any.
There's a moment you gotta stop transferring the responsibility to developers for your misery.
And btw get your numbers straight it's 600g in 4h.
and people have no idea how much gold bots getting from incursions is best gold farm for them ever.
these are very good news, especially the ratchet runes. if you have many alts, this one was costing fortune. nice saver
Just finished this rune an hour before reset😂 was about 60g and three hours
@@elementalismproductions F
F take... blizzard is just laughing to everyone that spend gold for these runes in p1 or 2, good to know for future dont spend any gold on something new, just wait blizzard will give it to you for free...
Did the rune quest in rachet one hour before reset. 😂
Sometimes I find myself speaking in Sarthe's cadence.
I'm going to put this cereal. In. My. Bowl.
All exalted items that u can buy from incursions reputation are trash, not a single one is worth, but the gold you can farm there its great.
Ring is good at least for SL locks in pvp. I did this for a reason let me cope xd
For real. There isn't even a tabard or anything. Literal trash faction not worth going past honored for.
pulled over 60 seeds last night. whelps were dropping almost every kill as of last night 8pm central
lol i saw the blue post about the ratchet runes yesterday and sold all my quest items for 700gold before the change
I somehow miss how that thing with the addon and quests is bad and blizzard must fix it??? The addon is great the whole event without the addon is a horrific experience.
The add-on is definitely not against any blizzard policy… if they outlaw this out they would also have to get rid of Questie and pretty much any addon that interfaces with macros (Rested XP uses the exact same mechanism to target quest mobs)
the addon isn't the problem. its the incursion design itself and its repeatablity.
Addon makes it durable to do the event for sure.
@@masonnelson5338 Exactly. It is badly designed content that no one enjoys, but that is (still) OP in terms of farming gold and XP, so everyone must do them.
@@tainicon4639 agree and yes its helping to smooth out the pain in the ass system they implemented.
how do you know the drop rate was increased on the BOED?
I was doing the seed farm until raid reset this morning and it was still dropping as frequent on whelps. They also announced a 50% drop increase so that should tank the price of seeds quickly
Good because fcking blizzard makes you don’t only need 5 dreamdust every 30min for enchanter profession bonus, you also need 1 seed every half hour for raiding. No idea what they were thinking with this but I hope everyone exploits this shit hard and the prices go like 1 gold per seed
@Tiemooo59 it no longer needs a seed. For enchanters
THATS the addon they keep talking about for incursions? bruh
I was kicked like 3 times for not having addon then I got it and realized...this thing makes it SO much easier and faster
Nightmare seeds are dropping, sold my first drops for 20g last week and bought mine for crafting for 13g this week
this gets me pissed soo many people fuck things up and make it harder for the rest...
I REALLY hope they do the same with with Sul'thraze as they did with the Serpent Striker. They completely gutted an iconic collection weapon just to make it better for paladins.
I farmed Hinterlands A Lot ok, probably one of the ppl who did it the most before nerf with over 2k emerald chips (you can do the math at 2.5g-3.5g per chip) I've spent it all now so it wasn't even infinite gold... Epic shoulders (lw 250) epic bracers (engi 250) 25 agi enchant, raid consumes, and darkmoon sandstorm deck and I'm down to 300g again
the age old bug of resetting your 5 instance per hour lockout was also fixed this week, end of the dungeon speed route meta
Can any shamans fill me in on what this can proc off of and how it interacts with our spells
Are you sure they have increased drop chance? I play on EU realms and haven't seen the dagger drop after many many runs yesterday and today
Any good place to level up?
No one wants to run dungeons with non-50s because of WO. Incursions are not fun at all, so I avoid them. Aside from running gnomer every 3 days, my only thing I can do now is quest. Are there any alternatives?
This is where I am at. Unfortunately I haven't found an answer yet.
It's still questing, but the RXP addon helps streamline allot
Complains incursions are top strong, asks for nerfs. Gets nerfed and complains next video about it not being worth it and rewards being too low. Next video, complains people are getting too much rewards and asks for nerfs. Rinse repeat.
Didn't they make all hunter melee weapons calculate as 2.40 weapon speed?
So the changes to the fist weapon does nothing for melee hunter IIRC.
Yeah I feel like they could've just made the drop rates higher for the grizzby quests instead of just making the runes purchasable
WTF is this? i just spent 400gold on +15 str enchant, now its a waste? what the fuck is happening? SoD is a joke. Devs 100% play hunter and spriests
Blizzard loves to "fix" things so that a bulk of people get screwed and have to farm 20X as much to get what people figure out in the first day or two on a new patch.
The sharing addon is not the problem its just a symptom. It wouldnt exist if the system it self wasnt that fricking annoying. Why do I have to click 18 * 5 times just to share quests, thats just ridiculous.
So happy my offhand got upgraded to BiS status ! Just need the main hand now :)
I mean, the nightmare incursion quests just work in a horrible way. The opening and sharing of all the quests and then managing inventory space... super annoying.
you forgot lifetap now gives your demons mana back 1:1
I haven’t played much since launch and feel like my drain life is different with the master channeler rune - do you know if they changed it recently? Feels shorter + can’t “cast” it while moving
Where is the confirmation that boed is buffed??? It’s not in the blue post and no dev said anything about this. I don’t trust random people say it got increased. Mage discord said it’s 2% at p3 release already and many posted it dropped for them. Need a dev confirm it before I do more than my daily 20 runs for it.
where is the blue post about the droprate of the dagger ?
I'm getting kind of tired of this Season of Beta testing. Why does blizzard so badly need PTR when so many other games like poe can release feature complete expansions without having to completely redo everything every 2 days. That was enough to keep me frustrated, but the straw that broke the camels back was the incursions. Why, blizzard... why? These single handedly destroyed the economy, and I've had to spend everythign I've farmed so far just to keep up with a lackluster raid with not so great loot.
All the 'make it easier' patches just punish you for playing the game. Everyone should just cancel their subscription for the first month of a phase and come back for the second month when everything easier and faster.
Maraudon dagger is bad for affliction locks and SPS for pvp right?
Wish they would do something about the warlock dagger. Tank locks are in despair
Was the Seal of Martyrdom Buff just recently or with P3 launch?
if it is content no one is enjoying, but everything feel obliged to do to keep up - with or without addon: Please nerf it to the ground so we can get back to playing the game proper.
Incursions are destroying SoD. Just admit you made a mistake Blizz, and nerf it to the ground. Those who enjoy doing them can do them for enjoyment. Pretty sure that will be a very very tiny segment of the population.
Do warriors want the fast or slower OH fist weapon?
they fucked up the economy so bad that the only way for someone with a full-time job and any responsibilities in life to keep up is to buy Gold. great job blizzard.
Excuses, u are not obligated to keep up with everyone if u cant sink the time needed for it
So you dont think blizzard messed up the economy?@@Muranight
@@Muranight WoW is a video game. Just because you have zero responsibilities in life does not mean you should confer an advantage over responsible members of society who are seeking video games as an outlet.
did 279 runs and got the dagger. Now everyone gets it. Sweet.
I was all in on the Rune discovery but as you level alts from level 1 currently you will find that some of the runes are IMPOSSIBLE to do solo. I think when a new phase starts the old runs should just go onto the trainer or rep vendor. People just want to play the game!!!! Those to say but the story, dude I haven't read a single thing on any of my runes... I just want to play, run dungeons and raid with others. Good change on the Ratchet runes but they all need that type of fix.
But… isnt finding runes = playing the game? Thats the big part of SoD isnt it? And no I dont think older runes should be just handed out for free, sounds very boring and retailish. And there are also new players coming all the time, shouldnt they have the SoD experience? But the Ratchet rune was indeed very tedious to grind or expensive to buy, I agree.
You can go get the hard ones solo later
Or you know have people help you get some of the harder ones early.. this is a multiplayer game after all.. shocker I know!
isnt grping a crucial part of the game? i dont think its intended that you can solo all your runes. it is a mmo afterall
@@Dontdissmybio Log on the game at 5am-9am est and find a group? most online are bots and nobody wants to help...they too busy grinding rep and the rest are just raid logging. You guys use the retail argument but hate to tell ya but retail is a hell of a lot harder than sod.
I saw the huge zerg in Hinterlands by alliance, was easily 200 players all stacked on each other, thought they were bots until they ganked me, i know what you're thinking, 200v1 no way.....
The amount of times SOD has fucked over the economy makes me not wanna play. Whats the point mining, herbing or trying to get gold when people are abusing certain systems to gets 1000s of golds. And now enchants and such cost like 300g to do cause these ppl abusing the systems.
Didn't they say raptor strike has a normalized attack speed? Making the speed difference irrelevant?
think about that logically, if only speed mattered then a black smithing hammer would deal the same damage as might of menethil from naxrammas
@@1776huckleberry well no because one has 2 dps and the other has a 90 dps. Think about that logically.
@@1776huckleberry this is the dumbest comment i've ever read on youtube
AP scaling is normalized, the part of the base damage (damage range) of the weapon still matters.
@@ivers1001let him cook bro
please tell me where I can change my fist weapon ? cannot find Jambo Island ...
Damn, they really fucked up the game with all of this gold. Super unfortunate.
Where are the sources for the changes?
Lol the gold rune change is horrible, this makes it new player friendly instead of alt friendly
We talking Paladins 👀You Best LOCK IT IN 🔒
In seriousness though, it doesn't answer the main paladin issues but yes the mana regen is nice, but I think there gonna hit another patch addressing mana dependency overall with this phase and later phases.
love ur vids dude
are u going to do cata content ?
what I've learned is blizz loves the exploiters cause their cash stays their rep stays so exploit away.
What the fuck why don they give heads up for this shit. I just spent 90g on my rune last night.
why does no one talk about the lock dagger. like why is it the way that it is.
does the incursion questing work in a raid grp?
Nice my only way to farm some gold with the rztchet rune is now down. Guess I have to do like everybody and up a hunter
Great to know they made me waste 40G on a rune, only to make it essentially free. 2 Phases later..
stopped playing they ruined the game for me, is like retail now take all for free and f off.
My raid team raided tonight we cleared it all and farmed 64 nightmare seeds and 29 átali mojos. We also had 2 ret pallys in raid The mama return is super over powered when I would normally use about 15 mana pots I only had to use 3
i want some mama pots too please
yesterday whelps still droped seeds
meanwhile I'm still farming for mine 😢
Sarthe really is snitching on people trying to grind gold.
I mean wheres the proof of increased drop rate?
Blue post
@@Pinnucle where's the blue post I don't see it
@@Pinnuclethere is no blue post that confirms the drop rate buff. That’s the point
hunter should not care about speed the speed was normalized i thoght
You’re nuts if you don’t think people take more paladins now 💀
@ Sarthe, what would be the BIS enchant for melee hunter currently? +15 agility 1h or +15 strength 1h? Thanks for your time and all of your SoD content.
15 agi
Always agi over str
@@doncorleone1720thanks
If only there were some raid loot system whereby you could redistribute all of this imbalanced wealth to other players 🤔
why is lockout a thing? people can farmmore gold outside a dungeon tahn in a dungeon. just let us fucking farm our gear
no it has not been buffed, im at 200 runs AFTER the supposed "buff" at 770 t otal now, stop doing stuff thats not true
Rip I just bought the rune before reset 😅😅😅 60g
dude. the princess dagger dropped for me on my FIRST RAID I have opened on my mage... MY FIRST RAID... IT JUST DROPPED ... and I didnt HR it.
I was in a raid... farming it. old leader went offline and I got lead (opened the ID with lead) I wanted to write: things changed now. dagger HR if u stay fine if u wanna leave GTFO (half way was cleared so ofc people would have stayed)... I refused to do it... I had a WHISPERING INSIDE OF MY MIND a voice told me LOCK THE DAGGER... and it dropped... and ofc I didnt won it... a total casual mage got it... FFS... he is never online... I gonna go farm it again...
Guess #NoChanges was the best version of wow
i made 1k on about 2 hours yesterday from nightmare seeds whelps still OP.... seriously.. the economy is fucked...
Ratchet rune - Jeesus YES! Finally!
WHAT TIME EU!? I NEED TO KNOW
yes, for how long are you playing the game ??? probably joined before season 3 start , am i right? otherwise you would now WHEN the weekly maintenance has been for the last 15+ years
It seems like every uniquely horde thing is being given to alliance with the exception of some totems. Like I understand alliance had less mana regen but they have utility like BOP where is that on horde side tbh I don't get why in an era where "class diversity" is important that everything needs to be on both factions to make it feel "fair" it just feels weird there should be unique advantage to being horde or alliance that's kind of the point of both factions not having access to both classes.
Are you trolling?????? Horde got shamans way stronger than paladins, many totems, better damage racials, will get FREE WEAPON BONUS on top of their already better racials. So the only racial advantage at all alliance has from humans. They also got kings which was alliance only. Now tell me what are all the things alliance got please! It’s the first time I’m not horde on classic and I feel scammed since start of p2 when shamans got buffed because horde has everything you need but more and better. Who cares about bop when it’s impossible to pull Aggro with this alpha buff of shamans and you can’t take of any mechanics with it in classic.
Alliance racials are completely fine and each serve there own unique purpose idk what measure you are using but many of the top DPS players are alliance so the difference can't be that huge. Paladins have gotten the most spells to work with running almost parallel to a wrath level paladin kit and warlocks/paladins/shamans and even druids all have no issue with threat generation single or multi target if anything warrior is struggling a little behind right now threat just isn't hard to maintain anymore. Sure paladins aren't the top dps class but neither are shamans warriors/hunter/rogues are out performing both. If you think horde getting 10% stats is the same as alliance getting wild strikes that's just wrong there's a massive gap in the power swap there and wild strikes made windfury look like poop in comparison on horde side as well.
@@Ministeroffate bro paladins are dog shit every spec sucks. They only had their buffs. It’s not that they are like the worst melee, they are also the worst healer and tank. On every character I have to stop dps at some point when a paladin tanks, even my hunter pet without taunt pulls Aggro sometimes. And no, alliance racials are not fine. Orc and troll are the only damage increasing racials in the game and both are horde. Alliance only has the advantage from weapon skill which will be complete free to get for every race so if you don’t see how broken orc and troll will be in pve you’re out of your mind. Also undead by far the best pvp racials against classes that fear and orc against classes that stun. My problem is that you say alliance get everything while horde is by far superior in every aspect of the game, while in original classic alliance was better for pve. So obviously horde got more good things than alliance otherwise it wouldn’t be completely shifted
Pointless conversation "paladins are bad because I think they are bad" there is plenty of good paladin players and the class offers amazing utility. Alliance had better gear quests in p1 and p2 but there's no point getting in to detail you are too convinced horde is better without any facts to back it up other than speculation. Check WCL prob 60% of top 50 dps for p3 are alliance the racials aren't as big as you think they are.
Did they buff the sword drop rates in ZF? I saw 2 in one run and then 1 again later in the day. I've seen that thing more in one day than I have my entire life.
It was insanely buffed since start of this phase. Every paladin I know or talked to had both swords in 10-40 runs. No way that this would be the case if they have the under 1% per sword drop rate
Both parts? Cuz I remember back in the day one part of the sword was way lower dropchance than the other.
@@percollen46 one of them was like 1% and the other .7% or sth like that.
man ive seen that swords drop so many times over the years, theres just no way that listed chance is correct it feels more like a 8% drop chance or soemthing over my hundreds of personal runs there
Incursions ruined sod no point playing anymore when everyone has 4k gold
hiding warlock bis tanking weapon behind a rng farm that can drive a man crazy is bullshit, // from a warlock 7 days and 400 portals in
too late imo. half our guild left after the economy got fucked from incursions. the fact that shadow priests are still not very viable for pve this late into the game is making me want to quit. One of the main reasons I got into this season of discovery is that I was excited to play shadow priest in classic raids. it is what it is.
OMFG I just bought all the crap for the ratchet rune like 2 days ago and spent about 72g on it =((((((((((((((((
the whelps are still dropping them. just did it 4/16/24
I got nightmare seed off a whelp tonight fyi
God forbid they actually test the game theyre making.... completely ruined something that couldve been so good. This is "World of Warcraft: Retail in Azeroth"
Him and his friends did this run and made a ton of gold and makes this vid too nerf it! sad you get yours and stop everyone else from doing it
palas cryed so loud again to get some buffs
Still will be garbage class in pve/pvp
Is the Mangle and Lacerate split live yet?
Yea
I dont honestly know why people are so heavily invested in SoD trying to get everything etc because after p4 the season will most likely end and all the shit you did is irrelevant.
Cant really commit to hamsterswheel games, i prefer to play on permanent servers where i can come and go as i please.
Kaltorraks music video worked!
As soon as they nerfed Sunken Temple I get so bored from SoD and now it’s so easy to one shot the raid and talking about a real challenge? “See you in next episode” 😂