I think that's where we need to change our perception of the "awards". The adrenaline rush should come from accomplishing something for the act itself; not for a plastic medal you'll receive if you do :)
The issue is that by creating a false sense of achievement, you give them the idea that winning isn’t important and that participating is all that matters. Reality is that anyone can really participate, but not many can win, and we want to motivate each other to work harder in order to achieve greater things than everyone else. That’s why not everyone who participates wins, because winning requires dedication and determination, which most participants don’t have enough of, and when kids lose and see other kids winning instead of them, they want to win as well. Losing is the most effective form of motivation.
I disagree, you need motivation to participate in the first place, for some people the thought of winning or achieving something stops them from participating at all because of it seeming impossible or for other reasons. I think being rewarded for losing and being rewarded for participation are two seperate issues, everyone should be rewarded for participating but only winners should be rewarded for winning. Participation is a lesson in it's own right, an important one.
Sadly many DO get participation trophies. Just look at fast food and the many mindless jobs where people can do lousy work and still receive a check. There are others that excel at it and quickly become managers, but that's not the majority :(
What's the big deal?! The big deal is children become adults who can't take criticisms. They expect praise even when they've done nothing to earn that praise. What's the word I'm looking for?? Hmmm, ENTITLEMENT
@@Bonesph if you grow up entitled to an award for showing up, you will carry this attiude until you realise thats not how it works. Outisde of a childrens world, performance is awarded not participation.
I remember of that wrestling video of a junior HS kid who lost and started throwing a fit. This is the type of people who never learned the value of losing and the parents including his brother who went up to that referee to say it was unfair match. This is why we have Donald J. Trump as your 45th President of the United States. ---- End participation trophy practices, this is a Baby Boomer thing.
I totally agree winners are given a trophy or award and losers get nothing but if anyone haves a trophy or award no matter if you win or lose then goes to show what are you really achieving nothing just a no show or show up trophy or award just because and to tell you the truth that isn't life winners are the people that earn it and losers are the ones that are defeated and need to work hard and learn from their mistakes so I rather be a champion because I won and earned it then being a paper champion just because
P-trophies are fine!!! There's no "danger". The p-trophies are for the parents, not the kids. I was a youth soccer coach and the kids either threw away their p-trophies or just tossed them aside and mocked the fact that they got a trophy for losing. They cared more about the pizza party anyway. Meaningless to them. The ones who felt so great about their p-trophies were utter losers anyway and well before they got their p-trophies.
I like that idea. For you and the kids, there were really trophies for accomplishment, and pizza for acknowledgement of effort and celebrating a good year. P-trophies should be replaced with celebrations of a good time.
Your attitude make you can’t achieve that, because you don’t wanna achieve excellent by hard working and by any means. And if someone like you do that will make Nobel price worthless.
Listening to her smacking lips is almost as bad as listening to her kids opinions after listening to her and then listening to her agree with her kids opinions.
If you show up, and you’re willing to try, and you know you’re going to lose, but you still participate, then you deserve a trophy. People who play even though they are going to lose, are valuable, because they still participate. Life is not about winning, it’s about participating.
True but the problem with participation trophies, as as well as the participation trophy mentality, is that it can breed entitlement. Which is a learned behavior. You have some people out here who feel entitled to receive something just for participating or evening showing up. And there's a difference between those two things. Just because someone showed up doesn't mean they actually participated or put in enough effort to try to win. But that's just my opinion.
@@bellalegendre2644 i think you’re talking about someone who isn’t there to have fun, become a better contester, or is only there to win in some other way. You can’t win if you don’t show up, you don’t try, and you don’t give yourself a reward/feel rewarded even if you lose. Not giving up deserves a reward, as well as defining success by willingness. People who feel entitled to a stinking trophy shouldn’t even be there.
No. If you are applying for a job and don't get it. You weren't aiming to participate in the hiring process. Losing builds character, teaches you how to cope and pivot, all while possibly pushing you to spaces where you will be more successful in
I agree with this but there’s a huge flaw in these arguments that nobody seems to point out. You can focus on trying to win but you need to establish HOW to win. Not just talk about kids winning. In school they don’t teach students how to think or control their work ethic. And yet adults and teachers like to complain about kids even when they are TRYING. Remember that everybody’s got limited capacities and everybody has different capacities so don’t expect everyone to have the same results. That in its own sense is a form of entitlement. And the speaker is not necessarily being objective.
Even in competing, you need to keep the other competitors motivated. And life isn't merely competition. It's also cooperation. A social safety net is a bit like a participation trophy. Because not everything is about winning. Yes, winning in itself is a reward. As is sometimes being able to play. It doesn't always seem that way but think about it. Achievement is something you should feel, not some idol on a bookshelf. It can serve as a reminder but I don't accept this mindset she goes into this topic with as a valid one. Like mentioned, it's an entitlement in itself. Hope that makes some sense.
@@justanothernick3984 that’s the thing about competitions too. Winning may be the goal but there is no guarantee anyone will win and ultimately there is only 1 winner in every game. Not 10 different winners. Participation trophies don’t work because they make everyone feel entitled and equal on the playing field when that’s just not the reality of competition. However I do think participation trophies might work for people with disabilities or lower skilled competitors that can help motivate them to persevere and make them feel confident that they at least tried. Otherwise majority of the world has to work their way up the ladder in whatever they do to win and succeed.
@@olivergreen1520 I agree mostly. I would add children to the lower skilled category. At a certain point, there needs to be winners and losers but not from the get-go.
Everyone should not get a trophy and people who raise horrible psychopath children should not get a trophy.. Ted! You are intelligent people so please stop being guilt tripped into giving everyone a trophy!
In the words of Dave Ramsey, whom I respect for his honesty and financial advice, goals must be challenging, but realistic.
I think that's where we need to change our perception of the "awards". The adrenaline rush should come from accomplishing something for the act itself; not for a plastic medal you'll receive if you do :)
@@stevenrogersfineart4224 that's the complete opposite of the participation trophy. Not rewarding any achievements is just as problematic.
The issue is that by creating a false sense of achievement, you give them the idea that winning isn’t important and that participating is all that matters. Reality is that anyone can really participate, but not many can win, and we want to motivate each other to work harder in order to achieve greater things than everyone else. That’s why not everyone who participates wins, because winning requires dedication and determination, which most participants don’t have enough of, and when kids lose and see other kids winning instead of them, they want to win as well. Losing is the most effective form of motivation.
I disagree, you need motivation to participate in the first place, for some people the thought of winning or achieving something stops them from participating at all because of it seeming impossible or for other reasons. I think being rewarded for losing and being rewarded for participation are two seperate issues, everyone should be rewarded for participating but only winners should be rewarded for winning. Participation is a lesson in it's own right, an important one.
doesn't only giving trophies also create a sense in which no one participates to have fun but only to win?
@@gabeh1839 the hardest belt to earn in Martial Arts is the white belt. Many think about doing it but only few do
@@gabeh1839 "being rewarded for losing"
That sounds wrong
Participation Trophies are like fake money; they devalue the real thing!
So are 2nd and 3rd place
@@Bonesphwhat’s wrong with those? If everyone got Gold sure, but it’s Gold, Silver and Bronze.
I have so many participation trophies! Some have called me the word’s best participant!
Thanks, donald
Haha you're not president anymore
To gain self-esteem, you must do esteem-able acts.
Exactly! Failures in life teaches kids that life isn't easy that you need to improve yourself in order to achieve something.
Wait till they start working and realize everyone doesn't get a "Participation Trophy" - you have to produce!
Who gets a participation trophy??????
It's a fake issue made up by the right
My daughter's soccer team went 0-9-1 and she got no trophy.... Quit making up issues that doesn't exist
That is so true Buffy! They're in for a rude awakening when they get into the working world as adults.
Sadly many DO get participation trophies. Just look at fast food and the many mindless jobs where people can do lousy work and still receive a check. There are others that excel at it and quickly become managers, but that's not the majority :(
What's the big deal?! The big deal is children become adults who can't take criticisms. They expect praise even when they've done nothing to earn that praise. What's the word I'm looking for?? Hmmm, ENTITLEMENT
And this has been traced back to participation trophies??
@@Bonesph if you grow up entitled to an award for showing up, you will carry this attiude until you realise thats not how it works. Outisde of a childrens world, performance is awarded not participation.
@@astennash1670 2nd and 3rd place do this to children as well?
Anyone know who the last person is on the “list of prolific innovators and inventors.”
I remember of that wrestling video of a junior HS kid who lost and started throwing a fit. This is the type of people who never learned the value of losing and the parents including his brother who went up to that referee to say it was unfair match. This is why we have Donald J. Trump as your 45th President of the United States.
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End participation trophy practices, this is a Baby Boomer thing.
I agree.
I totally agree winners are given a trophy or award and losers get nothing but if anyone haves a trophy or award no matter if you win or lose then goes to show what are you really achieving nothing just a no show or show up trophy or award just because and to tell you the truth that isn't life winners are the people that earn it and losers are the ones that are defeated and need to work hard and learn from their mistakes so I rather be a champion because I won and earned it then being a paper champion just because
THEY BE MAD IF YOU SAID NO!
P-trophies are fine!!! There's no "danger". The p-trophies are for the parents, not the kids. I was a youth soccer coach and the kids either threw away their p-trophies or just tossed them aside and mocked the fact that they got a trophy for losing. They cared more about the pizza party anyway. Meaningless to them. The ones who felt so great about their p-trophies were utter losers anyway and well before they got their p-trophies.
I like that idea. For you and the kids, there were really trophies for accomplishment, and pizza for acknowledgement of effort and celebrating a good year. P-trophies should be replaced with celebrations of a good time.
i'll take pizza over fake trophy's any day
Fake NEWS
@@tommynelson318 what's fake news
Look into the trophy industry to see why things are the way they are :P
There is a most effort award given sometimes its subjective though. I think that is the best kind of award that is like a participation award.
WHINERS KIDS ARE LIKE THAT
If I won a Nobel Peace Prize, I would want to give everyone a Participation Trophy.
Your attitude make you can’t achieve that, because you don’t wanna achieve excellent by hard working and by any means. And if someone like you do that will make Nobel price worthless.
@@zhongyang3402 ❤
@@zhongyang3402 i think its a joke lol
Listening to her smacking lips is almost as bad as listening to her kids opinions after listening to her and then listening to her agree with her kids opinions.
Her lips mouth might be dry
looks like someone didnt get a participation trophy😬
If you show up, and you’re willing to try, and you know you’re going to lose, but you still participate, then you deserve a trophy. People who play even though they are going to lose, are valuable, because they still participate. Life is not about winning, it’s about participating.
True but the problem with participation trophies, as as well as the participation trophy mentality, is that it can breed entitlement. Which is a learned behavior. You have some people out here who feel entitled to receive something just for participating or evening showing up. And there's a difference between those two things. Just because someone showed up doesn't mean they actually participated or put in enough effort to try to win. But that's just my opinion.
@@bellalegendre2644 i think you’re talking about someone who isn’t there to have fun, become a better contester, or is only there to win in some other way. You can’t win if you don’t show up, you don’t try, and you don’t give yourself a reward/feel rewarded even if you lose. Not giving up deserves a reward, as well as defining success by willingness. People who feel entitled to a stinking trophy shouldn’t even be there.
No. If you are applying for a job and don't get it. You weren't aiming to participate in the hiring process. Losing builds character, teaches you how to cope and pivot, all while possibly pushing you to spaces where you will be more successful in
@@jus3278 you don’t get a trophy if you get a job.
@@TheodoraKimmelHello the job is the trophy
WINNERS SHOULD BE WINNERS! LOSERS SHOULD BE LOSERS
It's a fake award
I agree with this but there’s a huge flaw in these arguments that nobody seems to point out. You can focus on trying to win but you need to establish HOW to win. Not just talk about kids winning. In school they don’t teach students how to think or control their work ethic. And yet adults and teachers like to complain about kids even when they are TRYING. Remember that everybody’s got limited capacities and everybody has different capacities so don’t expect everyone to have the same results. That in its own sense is a form of entitlement. And the speaker is not necessarily being objective.
Even in competing, you need to keep the other competitors motivated. And life isn't merely competition. It's also cooperation.
A social safety net is a bit like a participation trophy. Because not everything is about winning. Yes, winning in itself is a reward. As is sometimes being able to play. It doesn't always seem that way but think about it.
Achievement is something you should feel, not some idol on a bookshelf. It can serve as a reminder but I don't accept this mindset she goes into this topic with as a valid one. Like mentioned, it's an entitlement in itself.
Hope that makes some sense.
@@justanothernick3984 that’s the thing about competitions too. Winning may be the goal but there is no guarantee anyone will win and ultimately there is only 1 winner in every game. Not 10 different winners. Participation trophies don’t work because they make everyone feel entitled and equal on the playing field when that’s just not the reality of competition. However I do think participation trophies might work for people with disabilities or lower skilled competitors that can help motivate them to persevere and make them feel confident that they at least tried. Otherwise majority of the world has to work their way up the ladder in whatever they do to win and succeed.
@@olivergreen1520
I agree mostly. I would add children to the lower skilled category. At a certain point, there needs to be winners and losers but not from the get-go.
IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL GET MAD CAUSE YOU DIDNT GET THE SHARE
LMFAO Its not that deep just stop giving them.
Everyone should not get a trophy and people who raise horrible psychopath children should not get a trophy.. Ted! You are intelligent people so please stop being guilt tripped into giving everyone a trophy!
Yes theyll get mad if they told no
boycott nVidia or become an nVidiot
lol