@@TheDarkLord021they should definitely make a remastered version of bloodborne so PC players and Xbox players can play it, not sure why bloodborne and demon’s souls were playstation exclusives 🤔
I really hope Shadow of the Erdtree adds another ending to work towards. I always love endings that require extra steps to get and have big implications and stuff to think about and lore dive after! (Lord of Hollows, Ranni ending, BBs squid ending)
None of those endings have big implications though, really. BB squid transformation is you making the same mistake that the Healing Church and Birgenwerth did with the same result; Ranni ending is you confirming what you already must have noticed long ago, namely that she's just a puppet to a different Outer God than Marika; and Lord of Hollows, well, all endings of DS3 reflect different reactions on inevitability of the end, and the Lord of Hollows ending is the "bargaining" reaction, but even if you say that you're willing to settle for ruling a land of rotting undead, the darksign sun is still not gone, the world is still ending.
I gotta disagree, we don’t all come to the same conclusions. Took me awhile to understand what Ranni’s ending meant because the pieces just didn’t click for me the first time, and for BB it’s more about thinking and looking into things that are born from the choices you made to become a Great One. For me it’s more about putting together in my mind what comes next. I’m a thinker, I love to think.
@@SuperFatRyou really dont get bloodborne do you... its medical allegory... the healing church and byrgenwyrth werent necessarily wrong... bloodborne itself just shows the nightmarish reality of early victorian medical practice and ressarch... nothing the player does changes anything because you cant change history... everything happened, for better and for worse. The endings moreso tell a story of how the player decides to react to the story... either with ignorance (letting gherman remove you from the nightmare with no recollection of it) or with acknowledgement (killing gherman) or with understanding (becoming a great one).
If you think about how massive the areas in Elden ring area, the amount of assets needed to create 1-2 new areas is massive. I also think the release is going to be at most 1 month after the trailer given how little they announce their updates. The colosseum update was announced literally as it came out despite it being a pretty big update
As someone who has made some small games, the entire scope of Elden Ring really is mind blowing. Hundreds of people worked full time(Japanese full time which is like 60 hours a week) for 5 years to build and create this game. 2 years is nothing for a dlc for this beast. I think alot of people don't understand the scope of what goes in to making something like this.
@@pbabiesinspace6112your not equaling In the fact that fromsoft has a ton of assets they can reuse now that the hard work has created the assets (the base game) now placing those assets shouldn't be taking this long which gets me excited because that woukd mean they are making brand new assets
They normally release the dlc trailer 2 months and 5 days before it releases. With the exception of ashes of ariandel, being 1 month due to it being so short. If the dlc does actually release on Feb 25th, then it’s possible for a dec 25th Christmas trailer. Especially since this is likely gonna be the biggest From dlc to date, I still don’t think they’re gonna shadowdrop it or anything. Updates are different from dlcs
If you want to do a good DLC, you fucking scrap those. They might reuse something here and there like a baseline elites and bosses, like tree spirits etc. BUT it can't be more then a few mobs, and if this is the whole DLC, it wouldnt take SO long.@@HalcyonEX
Considering assets are anything from trees, statues, enemies, or just about anything else and someone has to design them, I wouldn't be surprised if they are bringing in a lot of new stuff for the new area/s. It took us 5 years to get Elden Ring and when we did, it was a masterpiece. If it takes em another 5 years to get the DLC then so be it.
One thing that I think would be pretty cool to see in Shadow of the Erdtree would be more unique powerstance weapons. In base game, only Wakizashi has this property, its a dagger, but can only be powerstanced with katanas. I would really like more weapons like this (str. sword that powerstances with curved swords, halberd with spears, greatsword with greathammer etc.)
The thing that gets me about the DLC is that DLCs tend to be the best parts of their games. With how phenomenal Elden Ring is, it's mind-boggling to imagine that *we may not have actually seen Elden Ring at its PEAK yet...* And since they keep referring to it as an EXPANSION, it makes me wonder if this will be on the scale of Blood and Wine or Iceborne- Basically a DLC size that's a whole third or even half of the game.
The Old Hunters was also called an "expansion" though - it's marketing and it clearly works. I still think it's reasonable to expect something different with ER. A scale of content to accompany the scale of base game. If it's just another legacy dungeons and a couple of caves in between some field bosses then yeah, that would be incredibly disappointing as far as hype goes.
Yea unfortunally Margit tends to legally give you a mandatory ass kicking before you can see it first for most players to dumb enough to realize you can take the under croft past him and go straight to Ranalla
I will wait till 2025 for FromSoftware and Miyazaki, If I have to. Because like you and many others have said, they have earned our trust. And, hey at least for me, that means I can play Dragon's Dogma 2, a sequel I've waited for, for a decade, without being split between that and Elden Ring.
@@ioverslept. emojis? God ,I remember when that was hated, but then again there are people born after 2012 that don't know how use emoticons or what even that is :‑J
I appreciate you focusing on the moment of surprise. That is something that makes the announcements magical. Also, I have played Elden Ring for hundreds and hundreds of hours and I still find new items. For example, I did not know that the Lazuli Glintstone Crown existed till a month ago.
I would be SUPER excited for Rise of the Ronin... IF IT DIDN'T RELEASE ON THE EXACT SAME DAY AS DRAGON'S DOGMA 2! I love Nioh (especially Nioh 2) and I had tons of fun with Wo Long. But man I waited over 10 years for a new Dragon's Dogma. Yeah not playing Rise of the Ronin on release.^^
You actualy had gun with Wo long? Not often i hear, but good for you😊 Nioh 1 was good, but i got to bored with Nioh2 linear lvl design and same'ish style. Nioh 2 is probably the objectevly best game of them two, but i dod not feel it
Took my Elden Ring break about 6 months ago. Got back into it knowing Shadow of the Erdtree will be within the year. I am really excited for new weapons and questlines to work toward. I love FromSoft NPCs and can't wait to meet more characters. Now I am just trying to decide what type of build I will go with when it releases
From Software consistently puts out banger after banger after banger, and the DLCs have always been some of the best parts of their games. Never have I been disappointed in a From Software game. It feels like From is one of the only devs out there that you can trust to make a good game. The DLC could take 5 years and id be chill with it. I can still fully enjoy all their games until that time, and even afterwards. Hidetaka Miyazaki and his team have a vision, and they're always able to put that vision into play so well. I love From Software for the experiences they've given me, and I will support them until they release a Call of Duty
Elden Ring was a massive disappointment for me. It felt like the end of FromSoft's era of success and uniqueness and a dive into complete commercialization and casualisation of a beloved niche genre.
@@Gungrave123 while I would go that far, the open world aspect definitely changed something integral about the formula. Not to mention the copy pasted bosses and dungeons, I wonder if it would have been better as something more akin to their previous games in terms of scope.
@@grrrr255remember soft is very dependent on fake difficulty for their design. Offloading the work of balancing to the player who has to grind to fix their laziness. But with the Ubisoft formula and the vast amount of xp that they very clearly didn’t think was as easy to find as it is shows just how much soft is dependent on holding the players hand.
I do really appreciate how level headed you are when it comes to games. Especially as more people seem to engage in rage baiting. Keep up the good work!
Ppl complain if a game is rushed and releases unfinished, they also complain when the devs take their time to craft an incredible experience. You can’t please ppl. They enjoy complaining more than they do gaming. Anyway, here’s the list im hyped for. Shadow of the Erd Tree, Granblue Fantasy: Relink, Dragons Dogma II, FFVII Rebirth, Rise of the Ronin, Black Myth, Visions of Mana. Star Wars Outlaws. Hoping to hear something about Stellar Blade and Silksong and I’m sure we’ll get more game release dates and announcements in the coming months.
The most impressive part of Elden Ring is how enjoyable the world is. For the most part, I prefer walking instead of using Torrent, just to take in the world. What I like to do, is start a new character and use weapons or a build I've never used before. There are two things in particular that I LOVE about Elden Ring. First, when you start in Limgrave and music starts playing. It is such a relaxing tune. In fact I would often specifically warp to Limgrave and end my session there, just so I would be greeted by the Limgrave theme the next time I play. Second, my favourite view in the entire game. The moment you exit Stormveil and get this gorgeous view over Liurnia. I always stop there and enjoy the moment.
That is my most favorite view as well. When I first saw it while playing, I sat there for so long just looking at everything and feeling astonished that it's all explorable. Then my eurprise when I realized it stretched even further behind Raya Lucaria!
I feel like people don't really take into consideration how much bigger Elden Ring is compared to other From Software games when judging the amount of time it takes From Software to release the game or the DLC. I completed Dark Souls 3 in like 30-40 hours when it first came out and I took my time with everything, and Elden Ring is easily 100+ hours on your first playthrough, even for absolute veterans of soulsborne games. As a long-time fan of the series and From Software in general, I wholeheartedly trust them that yet again they will come out with something absolutely amazing, just how it was with Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, base game Elden Ring and Armored Core before that.
Man, I personally don't care how people play, as long as they have fun! I had maxed mimic tear, and absolutely loved blasting bosses with myself and all 4 greatswords together. It was a tonne of fun. I know I'm personally coming back to ER whenever they release the DLC and hey, if they give us fantastic new content, they can take their time. Maybe we can have more adventures with everyone's favourite Jar man, if they give us a DS1 style DLC of the past.
The people genuinely mad about the wait for shadow of the erdtree are most likely people that joined the series with elden ring and didnt look at past releases or arent listening to us when we tell them, it will come and be worth the wait. Easy modes in soulslikes are fine if it what the devs want, miyazaki has said several times that his games dont have easy modes because he doesnt want it there and wants everyone to have the same experience.
that same people complaining about the wait are the same people who complained about cyberpunk not being released and when it was released early they complained about it being unfinished
People who are mad that the dlc hasnt been announced werent here during the original great hollowing in waiting for elden ring news. I'm stil waiting to face Glaive master Hodir in the dlc since he wasn't in the main game anymore when it released.
Rise of the Ronin not being on PC absolutely kills me... love Team Ninja. But we'll have Wukong and Dragons Dogma 2 so that'll ease the pain but still... And no doubt Elden Ring DLC is gonna be dope and worth the wait.
I really like your positivity,ER really was perfect and was worth all the wait. I'm sure the dlc will be the same,we just have to wait for Miyazaki to cook
@@isaiahkelly8955 for me elden ring was perfect, yes I understand it's flaws but elden ring did something in me that any other game didn't, I feel ER greatness made it's flaw almost nonexistent having a near flawless experience playing ER.......
I think I stopped caring about trailers and leaks when I graduated high school. Not a diss, I just got tired of being lied to and have my expectations shat on. Plus going in a game with zero knowledge on your first play through is amazing
I will absolutely play Shadow. I don’t care when it comes out, it will be a great experience. Plus, since ER we have had AC6 and P so in game land, things are good, no need to catastrophise about the ER DLC. Chill, have fun, and play Shadow when it drops. Life is good.
11:54 Yes, I agree. And I admit, I used +10 Mimic tear several times, throughout my first 3-4 playthroughs because I felt I'll never beat hard bosses like Malenia or Mogh. And after the 4th time I beat Malenia with a Mimic tear combo I started to feel kindof ashamed that I "always cheat" and started a no summon run. Took like 40 hours after beating the game 3 or 4 times with summons and such. But the feeling of success it gave me is nothing I've ever felt before in a game. In a way I like the summon system that it makes the game more accessible to people who never played a soulslike before. This was the case for me as well. But those who get into the genre and afterwards, trying to beat these incredibly challenging bosses without any summons, the feeling of defeating a hard boss is incredible. I remember I almost screamed my throat out when I first beat Malenia without any summons (luckily nobody was home). And playing through the whole game without any help it had a completely different feeling and I got the appreciate these bosses even more than before. Now I've already played through DS3 with both DLCs and I've just started my first run in Sekiro. Elden Ring got me hooked to the souls genre and I learned how to appretiate game design more. We might wait a lot for Shadow of the Erdtree but knowing Fromsoft., They will deliver.
Damn almost a Bethesda title here taking nearly what 4 years? For the first content drop, still no casual invasions or summons, elden ring literally killed casual invasions either you need to eat a finger and have 2+ non stop people in your world or you need to summon someone else who ONLY put there signs by bosses for bosses or to gank spank people, I missed dark souls casually getting invaded while fighting demons or slimes in tight corridors of the keep or in the deep sludges of the swamp, no more 1v1 casuals only "duals" and gank squads on both sides. Other than that I love the game
Guys i don't care if they release it or not im getting old so all of you have a great time playing Elden ring dlc when it ever comes so I'll see you all on this side or the other..
I can't wait. Havent touched elden ring this year but i know as soon as the dlc comes ill be fully invested. I wouldn't be too surprised if we find out its getting an anniversary launch
Don’t know if it was ever confirmed but Ariandel gave me some sort of feeling that it was unfinished in some way. Like, it felt like it should’ve been packaged into the Ringed city, but Bandai said no
@@Folkmoot You mean holy? Yeah, they have to be resistant to holy - Marika's lineage I mean. That's why I don't think the DLC is 100% Godwyn/death related, because fth builds would be melting everything, the same way they melt death birds.
Shadow of the erdree will definitely be large im not old but growing up the term expansion and actual expansions were a game in of them selves and the fact FROM is taking so long shows that and the quality on which they always bring our wait will most definitely be worth it. Great video Prod have blessed holidays everyone
I think it's important to remember that elden ring grew to have an audience outside of the normal Fromsoft fandom. Your community includes mostly those who'd buy the DLC regardless of when and how it's announced. Random dipshit moonveil spammer has the context of regular AAA DLCs, which are such roller coasters of quality, to judge Fromsoft's DLC. We said this when elden ring was still in development, for ~6 years, give them time and they'll make it great.
i know the almighty prodigy hasn't forgotten his monster hunting days. in 2025 I think its time for a resurgences for an old friend. though a year waiting for it feels sooooo long
I dont mind when hard games include an easy mode from the start by choice of the developer. But I do hate when some people want the developer to sacrifice their artistic vision to add an easy mode. Miyazaki said he didnt want to add one because he wanted all players to be playing the same game, the same experience. Which is a big part of the souls games. But some people dont respect that decision. They dont care about the developers vision and what they want to create. They feel entitled to be able to play anything the exact way they want it. And if the developers designed the game with that in mind, good for them. But you have to remember, not everything is for everyone. And you cant expect to go into every game without doing any research and expect it to cater precisely to your arbitrary expectations.
They said they are working on it. Period. All I need to know. I'm not entitled to a specific release date, Fromsoft don't do live service where you could say "game is dead" if it doesn't have a tight release schedule for updates.
Gamers when game devs rush out a game and it leads to it being unpolished and unfinished:😡 Gamers when game devs take there time in order to make a gud product:😡
I don't mind it taking over two years as long as the amount and quality of content doesn't disappoint. I don't want to see an Ashes of Ariandel 2.0. I know they took two years to make base game DS3 so I know what they're capable of.
I need fashion, fashion and more fashion! Give more altering options (remove hood, remove cloak, change color/material) and some good-looking heavy armors
Tbh in retrospect we were kinda dumb to just think 100% the DLC would be announced. Fromsoft doesn’t need to use TGA for a trailer. They’re going to take the rockstar approach, drop the full trailer and release date in the coming weeks, and will likely release Q1 2024.
If there's any small thing that would satisfy me, it would be more customization. The "alter garment" system boiling down to the ability to remove capes was so lame. Give me new colors! Give me new designs, CUSTOM DESIGNS LIKE THE TATTOOS ON YOUR CHARACTER DAMMIT!!
The difference is that an easy mode is a designed difficulty, while beating the game with mimic tear or bleed is part of the set difficulty, so yes by using all the right resources, Elden Ring is pretty easy.
Geoff Keighley heavily implied in his Q&A streams that ER DLC wasn't gonna be at the Game Awards. I haven't seen anyone talking about that, though. People just hyped themselves up and ignored the signs.
I will definitely be back, and I do hope they take their time to give us an amazing dlc to an already amazing game. I know they’ll do right by us like they always do. And in the meantime heck yeah we’re eating good. It’s never been a better time for amazing souls likes. And it’s definitely a situation of good things come to those who wait.
man, from softwar is on a streak right now. Sekiro, Elden ring, Armored Core, they have all been amazing games. Next up is the DLC, i'm sure it won't disappoint. What i'm wishing, tho, is some kind of sekiro 2. Please miyazaki, we NEED it...
We’ve got so many games coming out soon. I can wait. Because I know that as soon as they release a trailer, it’s literally going to be at the top of my priority. They’ve already exceeded my expectations for Elden ring tenfold, as well as their previous games. I have no reason to believe they won’t do it again. I’ve rarely ever seen a company take this much authority to making a DLC as good as it can possibly be (context: Development supposedly started April 2022). Miyazaki respects this dlc more than other companies respect their full games😭😭
What i want is a Gransax boss fight in Leyndell. Idk how they woukd pull it off, but its looking like this all takes place in the past. So we're definitely getting something about Godwynn and Michela, but i wonder what else they'll throw in there to spice it up
Things we got at TGA: Wukong release date, God of War Valhalla, Monster Hunter Wilds Things we didn’t get: Shadow of the Erdtree trailer, Lies of P dlc, KH4 news.
I think the way they will implement the DLC would be switching between the living world and the spirit world, probably in only a few areas. Since the image is seen in a wheat field full of graves, but in spirit form. Also, when accessing the portal to the Haligtree, you have to be in the evergaol dimesion in order to light the flame in the statues you can't see in the living world.
Elden Ring players out here experiencing a fraction of the pain that Hollowknight fans have suffered waiting for Silksong, I think we'll be fine guys lol
I have so many games still to play, I'm fine with Elden Ring DLC taking some more time and be polished and the usual high quality. Also when I saw the trailer for Black Myth my eyes teared up a bit, it looks so amazing and I reeeeally hope it's at least half of the quality and content that it looks to have now. Totally agree with Prod, we are really feasting at the moment and have so many great games to play and look forward to.
11:33 So glad you said this, it really is irritating.. Like those unreasonably jaded people who contribute nothing to society, consume products, & call everything trash
The biggest issue for me personally is that the more time it takes, the more I expect from it, and personally, it's not fair to any dev. Expectations without any gameplay shown is a sure-fire way to be disappointed.
I feel like it’s more likely to come out early 2025, like January or February 2025. That might sound like forever from now but that’s just barely over a year away, we’re like 10 days from 2024 already. The amount of stuff we’ve seen for the dlc is VERY low, I say 5-6 months after we get the first gameplay trailer
While I loved ER, it's been so long. I've definitely moved on. I might pick up the expansion when it's really cheap. I just think games have really pushed on since ER
People who complain about how long it takes for the dlc to get out are the ones who cry the loudest when the dlc is not up to the same quality as the main game. And for everyone who played fromsoft dlcs so far knows the dlc are always an improvement to the main game. If you compare the scale of ER to their previous titles it makes sense for a DLC to take this long if they want to keep up their track record for DLCs in terms of quality and scale.
Elden Ring was the first souls game where I felt every area was thoughtfully planned out and nothing was rushed so taking all the time they want to take for the DLC is fine with me. Take the time, do the hard work to make it great, and then release it.
Before Soulsborne games Ninja Gaiden 2 for XBOX 360 was my all time favorite game. I loved Nioh too, but the thought of an open world Ninja Gaiden, hell, take my money!!!
i think its fine, they can take the time they need, but i dont like that they announced it so early when it wasnt even close to completion. growing tired of these 1+ year hype cycles honestly.
It's been a brutal wait for us (Day 1) Elden Ring players, we waited too damn long.... Hopefully they show elden ring DLC this next month, apparently fromsoftware always shows their dlc 1 month before it's actually out so if elden ring dlc really comes in february they would show us a trailer for it next month :D
I hope it's bigger than Bloodborne, because Bloodborne's size is a big point of contention for me. My very first playthrough, almost entirely blind, exploring the levels and finding some secrets (even the boss on the roof of the mansion), I clocked in almost exactly 18.5 hours at the credits. It's quite small.
I started playing the souls games with sekiro and I am super looking forward to elden ring dlc but I am a bit intimidated by the idea of having to re optimize my builds and go back through my challenge runs when the dlc comes out. I know I’ll probably get as obsorbed in it as I did in the main game and it is gonna be a super fun experience. I especially hope the dlc is accessible earlyish like Ariandel so that brave players can go there early for good loot. I also wholly agree with what you said about fromsoft being one of the few game companies that can be trusted. With most companies I would be expecting the worst possible outcome at this point but with Fromsoft I know whatever they’re cooking up is gonna be good and worth it. I feel like since elden ring soulslikes have really taken off and now the community has a ton of games to look forward to from other studios, which really makes the wait for elden ring dlc and the next fromsoft project after that not feel so bad. The souls comm7nity has grown so much with elden ring and I can’t wait to see what is going to happen when the dlc releases
People need to remember. An Elden Ring DLC isn't gonna be like other DLCs. I'm expecting the DLC to be about the size of limgrave and weeping peninsula or Luria of the lakes, which is a lot more work then any other DLC.
I really dont understand people who are like "I want this DLC now, how can this take so long..... and so on" We got so many unfinished games in the last few years that were just shit or needed another year or two of updates to be in a decent game play state. Let them cook, when its done its done.
My guess is they delayed it till 2025 or late 2024, if it would release early 2024 they probably would have announced it at TGA. They're probably more focused with developing their new IP.
Shadow of the Erdtree should just be Miquella dreaming about Bloodborne.
At least that way we PC gamers be able to play BB
*Bloodborne2*
@@Khaild000 I wish BB was on pc man
@@TheDarkLord021 same i just don't understand why or what's stopping them from putting on pc or making a remaster at the least.
@@TheDarkLord021they should definitely make a remastered version of bloodborne so PC players and Xbox players can play it, not sure why bloodborne and demon’s souls were playstation exclusives 🤔
I really hope Shadow of the Erdtree adds another ending to work towards. I always love endings that require extra steps to get and have big implications and stuff to think about and lore dive after! (Lord of Hollows, Ranni ending, BBs squid ending)
or even like a questline like the sif one for ds1 would be super cool
None of those endings have big implications though, really. BB squid transformation is you making the same mistake that the Healing Church and Birgenwerth did with the same result; Ranni ending is you confirming what you already must have noticed long ago, namely that she's just a puppet to a different Outer God than Marika; and Lord of Hollows, well, all endings of DS3 reflect different reactions on inevitability of the end, and the Lord of Hollows ending is the "bargaining" reaction, but even if you say that you're willing to settle for ruling a land of rotting undead, the darksign sun is still not gone, the world is still ending.
I gotta disagree, we don’t all come to the same conclusions. Took me awhile to understand what Ranni’s ending meant because the pieces just didn’t click for me the first time, and for BB it’s more about thinking and looking into things that are born from the choices you made to become a Great One. For me it’s more about putting together in my mind what comes next. I’m a thinker, I love to think.
@@SuperFatRyou really dont get bloodborne do you... its medical allegory... the healing church and byrgenwyrth werent necessarily wrong... bloodborne itself just shows the nightmarish reality of early victorian medical practice and ressarch... nothing the player does changes anything because you cant change history... everything happened, for better and for worse. The endings moreso tell a story of how the player decides to react to the story... either with ignorance (letting gherman remove you from the nightmare with no recollection of it) or with acknowledgement (killing gherman) or with understanding (becoming a great one).
@@SuperFatR the ps4 trophy for the squid ending litteraly state that you will guide humanity towards the next step i don't know where you heard that
If you think about how massive the areas in Elden ring area, the amount of assets needed to create 1-2 new areas is massive. I also think the release is going to be at most 1 month after the trailer given how little they announce their updates. The colosseum update was announced literally as it came out despite it being a pretty big update
As someone who has made some small games, the entire scope of Elden Ring really is mind blowing. Hundreds of people worked full time(Japanese full time which is like 60 hours a week) for 5 years to build and create this game. 2 years is nothing for a dlc for this beast. I think alot of people don't understand the scope of what goes in to making something like this.
@@pbabiesinspace6112your not equaling In the fact that fromsoft has a ton of assets they can reuse now that the hard work has created the assets (the base game) now placing those assets shouldn't be taking this long which gets me excited because that woukd mean they are making brand new assets
They normally release the dlc trailer 2 months and 5 days before it releases. With the exception of ashes of ariandel, being 1 month due to it being so short. If the dlc does actually release on Feb 25th, then it’s possible for a dec 25th Christmas trailer. Especially since this is likely gonna be the biggest From dlc to date, I still don’t think they’re gonna shadowdrop it or anything. Updates are different from dlcs
If you want to do a good DLC, you fucking scrap those. They might reuse something here and there like a baseline elites and bosses, like tree spirits etc. BUT it can't be more then a few mobs, and if this is the whole DLC, it wouldnt take SO long.@@HalcyonEX
Considering assets are anything from trees, statues, enemies, or just about anything else and someone has to design them, I wouldn't be surprised if they are bringing in a lot of new stuff for the new area/s. It took us 5 years to get Elden Ring and when we did, it was a masterpiece. If it takes em another 5 years to get the DLC then so be it.
One thing that I think would be pretty cool to see in Shadow of the Erdtree would be more unique powerstance weapons. In base game, only Wakizashi has this property, its a dagger, but can only be powerstanced with katanas. I would really like more weapons like this (str. sword that powerstances with curved swords, halberd with spears, greatsword with greathammer etc.)
Definitely!
Would be cool imagine a knife and great sword
@@ghostlyswat12 you miss the farron greatsword too huh?
hear me out....
powerstanced bows/crossbows/seals/staffs
@@semi__colon staffs and seals yes but bows require two hands by virtue of their default design but maybe the crossbows.
I want more interactions with Torrent, armour would be nice because we look like a demigod on a donkey 😅
we can wish for a pet torrent button for the DLC
Horse armor dlc, that'll be 5,99 per piece
Neigh
@@cherryrook8684 It's not Activision
a super colssal lance that when not on torrent no matter your stats weighs you down, but when on horse is a strong weapon
i just want the oiled up bussy at this point, itll make the DLC perfection
Thank you Rip Van Winkle
Tf?
Standard Prod video comment
Indeed we need to see miquilla oiled up bussy
That is a child 😕
The thing that gets me about the DLC is that DLCs tend to be the best parts of their games.
With how phenomenal Elden Ring is, it's mind-boggling to imagine that *we may not have actually seen Elden Ring at its PEAK yet...*
And since they keep referring to it as an EXPANSION, it makes me wonder if this will be on the scale of Blood and Wine or Iceborne- Basically a DLC size that's a whole third or even half of the game.
Yea, the time they have put into it + we know the standard they hold to themselves,, its gonna be f***** awesome!
Everyone just stfu already & wait patiently.
The Old Hunters was also called an "expansion" though - it's marketing and it clearly works. I still think it's reasonable to expect something different with ER. A scale of content to accompany the scale of base game. If it's just another legacy dungeons and a couple of caves in between some field bosses then yeah, that would be incredibly disappointing as far as hype goes.
With how long it's taking it fucking better be
Yea unfortunally Margit tends to legally give you a mandatory ass kicking before you can see it first for most players to dumb enough to realize you can take the under croft past him and go straight to Ranalla
I will wait till 2025 for FromSoftware and Miyazaki, If I have to. Because like you and many others have said, they have earned our trust. And, hey at least for me, that means I can play Dragon's Dogma 2, a sequel I've waited for, for a decade, without being split between that and Elden Ring.
"Earned our trust" We will see in the future.
They've put banger after banger since 2009 tf do you mean "we will see in the future"
@@lurky6439right? 💀Literally some of the best games of all time nonstop since 09... "we will see..." 🤓
@@ioverslept. emojis? God ,I remember when that was hated, but then again there are people born after 2012 that don't know how use emoticons or what even that is :‑J
@@lurky6439 idk why you're saying that to them, they are on your side here lmao
I appreciate you focusing on the moment of surprise. That is something that makes the announcements magical. Also, I have played Elden Ring for hundreds and hundreds of hours and I still find new items. For example, I did not know that the Lazuli Glintstone Crown existed till a month ago.
What does it do
@@stealthmaster6472it boosts int and dex by 3. Sorcerers who studied carian sorceries used this crown
@@stealthmaster6472increases intelligence at the expense of stamina/hp (there’s like 4 or 5 different versions of the crown)
500 hours for me, and I still haven’t figured out how people get into the room in Volcano Manor with the albinauric frog mask lol
@@stealthmaster6472 It increases Intelligence and Dexterity at the detriment of HP I believe.
I would be SUPER excited for Rise of the Ronin...
IF IT DIDN'T RELEASE ON THE EXACT SAME DAY AS DRAGON'S DOGMA 2!
I love Nioh (especially Nioh 2) and I had tons of fun with Wo Long. But man I waited over 10 years for a new Dragon's Dogma. Yeah not playing Rise of the Ronin on release.^^
You actualy had gun with Wo long? Not often i hear, but good for you😊
Nioh 1 was good, but i got to bored with Nioh2 linear lvl design and same'ish style. Nioh 2 is probably the objectevly best game of them two, but i dod not feel it
@@Anfield_the_place_to_be wo long is great actually, just a bit too easy aside from the first Lu-Bu fight
Oh not youre not playing a singleplayer game on release 😢😢😢
Seriously whats with everyone treating games like their wives??
Dragons Dogma 2 hype train
And don't forget about black myth wukong released in the same year..we've been blessed
Took my Elden Ring break about 6 months ago. Got back into it knowing Shadow of the Erdtree will be within the year. I am really excited for new weapons and questlines to work toward. I love FromSoft NPCs and can't wait to meet more characters. Now I am just trying to decide what type of build I will go with when it releases
releasing in 2312
From Software consistently puts out banger after banger after banger, and the DLCs have always been some of the best parts of their games.
Never have I been disappointed in a From Software game. It feels like From is one of the only devs out there that you can trust to make a good game.
The DLC could take 5 years and id be chill with it. I can still fully enjoy all their games until that time, and even afterwards.
Hidetaka Miyazaki and his team have a vision, and they're always able to put that vision into play so well.
I love From Software for the experiences they've given me, and I will support them until they release a Call of Duty
100% agree
Elden Ring was a massive disappointment for me. It felt like the end of FromSoft's era of success and uniqueness and a dive into complete commercialization and casualisation of a beloved niche genre.
@@Gungrave123 while I would go that far, the open world aspect definitely changed something integral about the formula. Not to mention the copy pasted bosses and dungeons, I wonder if it would have been better as something more akin to their previous games in terms of scope.
@@grrrr255remember soft is very dependent on fake difficulty for their design. Offloading the work of balancing to the player who has to grind to fix their laziness. But with the Ubisoft formula and the vast amount of xp that they very clearly didn’t think was as easy to find as it is shows just how much soft is dependent on holding the players hand.
I do really appreciate how level headed you are when it comes to games. Especially as more people seem to engage in rage baiting. Keep up the good work!
Who actually freaked out, just play a different game
Let Miyazaki cook (render 8k eldritch horror's feet)
People lost their shit, I was arguing with a guy that legitimately thought the dlc had been cooking for 3 years.
Ppl complain if a game is rushed and releases unfinished, they also complain when the devs take their time to craft an incredible experience. You can’t please ppl. They enjoy complaining more than they do gaming. Anyway, here’s the list im hyped for.
Shadow of the Erd Tree, Granblue Fantasy: Relink, Dragons Dogma II, FFVII Rebirth, Rise of the Ronin, Black Myth, Visions of Mana. Star Wars Outlaws.
Hoping to hear something about Stellar Blade and Silksong and I’m sure we’ll get more game release dates and announcements in the coming months.
Trailer: January 21 (OG release date)
DLC release: February 25th (Elden Ring release date)
Thats my guess.
The most impressive part of Elden Ring is how enjoyable the world is. For the most part, I prefer walking instead of using Torrent, just to take in the world. What I like to do, is start a new character and use weapons or a build I've never used before. There are two things in particular that I LOVE about Elden Ring. First, when you start in Limgrave and music starts playing. It is such a relaxing tune. In fact I would often specifically warp to Limgrave and end my session there, just so I would be greeted by the Limgrave theme the next time I play. Second, my favourite view in the entire game. The moment you exit Stormveil and get this gorgeous view over Liurnia. I always stop there and enjoy the moment.
That is my most favorite view as well. When I first saw it while playing, I sat there for so long just looking at everything and feeling astonished that it's all explorable. Then my eurprise when I realized it stretched even further behind Raya Lucaria!
Yea braces taking ten minutes to get from repetitive activity rather then 3 is so impressive . I guess everything is exciting when you’re that stupid.
I feel like people don't really take into consideration how much bigger Elden Ring is compared to other From Software games when judging the amount of time it takes From Software to release the game or the DLC. I completed Dark Souls 3 in like 30-40 hours when it first came out and I took my time with everything, and Elden Ring is easily 100+ hours on your first playthrough, even for absolute veterans of soulsborne games. As a long-time fan of the series and From Software in general, I wholeheartedly trust them that yet again they will come out with something absolutely amazing, just how it was with Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, base game Elden Ring and Armored Core before that.
Man, I personally don't care how people play, as long as they have fun! I had maxed mimic tear, and absolutely loved blasting bosses with myself and all 4 greatswords together. It was a tonne of fun. I know I'm personally coming back to ER whenever they release the DLC and hey, if they give us fantastic new content, they can take their time. Maybe we can have more adventures with everyone's favourite Jar man, if they give us a DS1 style DLC of the past.
The people genuinely mad about the wait for shadow of the erdtree are most likely people that joined the series with elden ring and didnt look at past releases or arent listening to us when we tell them, it will come and be worth the wait. Easy modes in soulslikes are fine if it what the devs want, miyazaki has said several times that his games dont have easy modes because he doesnt want it there and wants everyone to have the same experience.
that same people complaining about the wait are the same people who complained about cyberpunk not being released and when it was released early they complained about it being unfinished
Nah, I'll wait for Elden Ring as long as it takes. The longer we wait, the better the game is developed.
People who are mad that the dlc hasnt been announced werent here during the original great hollowing in waiting for elden ring news. I'm stil waiting to face Glaive master Hodir in the dlc since he wasn't in the main game anymore when it released.
I love Nioh 2 ...still need to finish the last 10 floors of the underworld.
Rise of the Ronin not being on PC absolutely kills me... love Team Ninja. But we'll have Wukong and Dragons Dogma 2 so that'll ease the pain but still... And no doubt Elden Ring DLC is gonna be dope and worth the wait.
Just finished an Elden Ring seamless co op mod run with a friend. Can't wait for the DLC.
I really like your positivity,ER really was perfect and was worth all the wait. I'm sure the dlc will be the same,we just have to wait for Miyazaki to cook
ER wasn't perfect, but it was great.
@@isaiahkelly8955 for me elden ring was perfect, yes I understand it's flaws but elden ring did something in me that any other game didn't, I feel ER greatness made it's flaw almost nonexistent having a near flawless experience playing ER.......
Elden Ring.. perfect ??
@@Gungrave123I agree. Every soulsborne game is flawed. But I think the good things easily overweigh the bad things in each of those games.
I think I stopped caring about trailers and leaks when I graduated high school. Not a diss, I just got tired of being lied to and have my expectations shat on. Plus going in a game with zero knowledge on your first play through is amazing
Rise of Ronin coming out on the same day as Dragon’s Dogma 2 is going to literally kill me.
I will absolutely play Shadow. I don’t care when it comes out, it will be a great experience. Plus, since ER we have had AC6 and P so in game land, things are good, no need to catastrophise about the ER DLC. Chill, have fun, and play Shadow when it drops. Life is good.
Maybe the real Elden Ring DLC is the friends we made along the way...
11:54 Yes, I agree. And I admit, I used +10 Mimic tear several times, throughout my first 3-4 playthroughs because I felt I'll never beat hard bosses like Malenia or Mogh. And after the 4th time I beat Malenia with a Mimic tear combo I started to feel kindof ashamed that I "always cheat" and started a no summon run. Took like 40 hours after beating the game 3 or 4 times with summons and such. But the feeling of success it gave me is nothing I've ever felt before in a game.
In a way I like the summon system that it makes the game more accessible to people who never played a soulslike before. This was the case for me as well. But those who get into the genre and afterwards, trying to beat these incredibly challenging bosses without any summons, the feeling of defeating a hard boss is incredible. I remember I almost screamed my throat out when I first beat Malenia without any summons (luckily nobody was home). And playing through the whole game without any help it had a completely different feeling and I got the appreciate these bosses even more than before.
Now I've already played through DS3 with both DLCs and I've just started my first run in Sekiro. Elden Ring got me hooked to the souls genre and I learned how to appretiate game design more.
We might wait a lot for Shadow of the Erdtree but knowing Fromsoft., They will deliver.
and i have a feeling they're gonna deliver some insanely hard new enemies and bosses.
That like saying going for headshots in a shooter is cheating.
Damn almost a Bethesda title here taking nearly what 4 years? For the first content drop, still no casual invasions or summons, elden ring literally killed casual invasions either you need to eat a finger and have 2+ non stop people in your world or you need to summon someone else who ONLY put there signs by bosses for bosses or to gank spank people, I missed dark souls casually getting invaded while fighting demons or slimes in tight corridors of the keep or in the deep sludges of the swamp, no more 1v1 casuals only "duals" and gank squads on both sides. Other than that I love the game
Guys i don't care if they release it or not im getting old so all of you have a great time playing Elden ring dlc when it ever comes so I'll see you all on this side or the other..
All I know is that I'll be watching whatever content you put out Prod! :)
I can't wait. Havent touched elden ring this year but i know as soon as the dlc comes ill be fully invested.
I wouldn't be too surprised if we find out its getting an anniversary launch
i think my biggest fear is that we will wait all this time and get a dlc the size of ariandell i doubt this will happen but it is a concern of mine
Yeah if we waited two years and they pull something like that I don’t know if I’ll ever be buying anything from them again
Nah..it's gonna be big. I am expecting a size of limgrave plus caelid. And one underground area. 4-5 legacy dungeons.
Nah, I think this DLC will be their biggest one ever.
Trust in Micheal Zaki, Fromsoftware dosent miss.
Don’t know if it was ever confirmed but Ariandel gave me some sort of feeling that it was unfinished in some way.
Like, it felt like it should’ve been packaged into the Ringed city, but Bandai said no
I hope theres a fth arc weapon other than erdsteel and maybe some int and fth scaling stuff.
I want some bosses weak to faith instead of highly faith resistant
@@Folkmoot You mean holy? Yeah, they have to be resistant to holy - Marika's lineage I mean. That's why I don't think the DLC is 100% Godwyn/death related, because fth builds would be melting everything, the same way they melt death birds.
Same. Would love another int/fth weapon as well as a dragon themed fth/arc weapon
Shadow of the erdree will definitely be large im not old but growing up the term expansion and actual expansions were a game in of them selves and the fact FROM is taking so long shows that and the quality on which they always bring our wait will most definitely be worth it. Great video Prod have blessed holidays everyone
I think it's important to remember that elden ring grew to have an audience outside of the normal Fromsoft fandom. Your community includes mostly those who'd buy the DLC regardless of when and how it's announced.
Random dipshit moonveil spammer has the context of regular AAA DLCs, which are such roller coasters of quality, to judge Fromsoft's DLC.
We said this when elden ring was still in development, for ~6 years, give them time and they'll make it great.
is that a youtuber?
@@Boss_Fight_Index_muki yeah moonveilspammer69420 is a real streamer lol. God, I hope not
i love you prod
i know the almighty prodigy hasn't forgotten his monster hunting days. in 2025 I think its time for a resurgences for an old friend. though a year waiting for it feels sooooo long
I dont mind when hard games include an easy mode from the start by choice of the developer. But I do hate when some people want the developer to sacrifice their artistic vision to add an easy mode.
Miyazaki said he didnt want to add one because he wanted all players to be playing the same game, the same experience. Which is a big part of the souls games.
But some people dont respect that decision. They dont care about the developers vision and what they want to create. They feel entitled to be able to play anything the exact way they want it. And if the developers designed the game with that in mind, good for them.
But you have to remember, not everything is for everyone. And you cant expect to go into every game without doing any research and expect it to cater precisely to your arbitrary expectations.
They said they are working on it. Period. All I need to know. I'm not entitled to a specific release date, Fromsoft don't do live service where you could say "game is dead" if it doesn't have a tight release schedule for updates.
In before shadow of the erdtree becomes the next silksong
Gamers when game devs rush out a game and it leads to it being unpolished and unfinished:😡
Gamers when game devs take there time in order to make a gud product:😡
Have you ever seen an expansion for such a SUCCESSFUL game taken this long?
@@Rjkay45 so what your saying is you want a rushed broken dlc
Have patience
Most expansions take a year or 2 anyways
Cyberpunks took 3 technically
Elden Ring and the other FS Titles arent Soulslikes, they are the Souls
I don't mind it taking over two years as long as the amount and quality of content doesn't disappoint. I don't want to see an Ashes of Ariandel 2.0. I know they took two years to make base game DS3 so I know what they're capable of.
I need fashion, fashion and more fashion!
Give more altering options (remove hood, remove cloak, change color/material) and some good-looking heavy armors
elden ring youtubers cant stop talking about this dlc for like a year now
Tbh in retrospect we were kinda dumb to just think 100% the DLC would be announced. Fromsoft doesn’t need to use TGA for a trailer. They’re going to take the rockstar approach, drop the full trailer and release date in the coming weeks, and will likely release Q1 2024.
If there's any small thing that would satisfy me, it would be more customization. The "alter garment" system boiling down to the ability to remove capes was so lame. Give me new colors! Give me new designs, CUSTOM DESIGNS LIKE THE TATTOOS ON YOUR CHARACTER DAMMIT!!
2025. I work at From. Focusing on jiggle physics all 2024.
The difference is that an easy mode is a designed difficulty, while beating the game with mimic tear or bleed is part of the set difficulty, so yes by using all the right resources, Elden Ring is pretty easy.
Imagine FromSoftware shows a trailer for Shadow of the Erdtree at E3, and at the end of the trailer it says it releases the next day lol
E3 is gone for good
I very much prefer the devs to take as long as they need in order to make the game.
I agree with you completely, but god damn silksong is taking its time. In february next year it's 5 years ago since the announcement lol.
Geoff Keighley heavily implied in his Q&A streams that ER DLC wasn't gonna be at the Game Awards. I haven't seen anyone talking about that, though. People just hyped themselves up and ignored the signs.
I will definitely be back, and I do hope they take their time to give us an amazing dlc to an already amazing game. I know they’ll do right by us like they always do. And in the meantime heck yeah we’re eating good. It’s never been a better time for amazing souls likes. And it’s definitely a situation of good things come to those who wait.
man, from softwar is on a streak right now. Sekiro, Elden ring, Armored Core, they have all been amazing games. Next up is the DLC, i'm sure it won't disappoint. What i'm wishing, tho, is some kind of sekiro 2. Please miyazaki, we NEED it...
With Dragons Dogma 2 coming out next year I'd say that we'll be feasting like kings.
We’ve got so many games coming out soon. I can wait. Because I know that as soon as they release a trailer, it’s literally going to be at the top of my priority.
They’ve already exceeded my expectations for Elden ring tenfold, as well as their previous games. I have no reason to believe they won’t do it again.
I’ve rarely ever seen a company take this much authority to making a DLC as good as it can possibly be (context: Development supposedly started April 2022). Miyazaki respects this dlc more than other companies respect their full games😭😭
What i want is a Gransax boss fight in Leyndell. Idk how they woukd pull it off, but its looking like this all takes place in the past.
So we're definitely getting something about Godwynn and Michela, but i wonder what else they'll throw in there to spice it up
Things we got at TGA: Wukong release date, God of War Valhalla, Monster Hunter Wilds
Things we didn’t get: Shadow of the Erdtree trailer, Lies of P dlc, KH4 news.
I think the way they will implement the DLC would be switching between the living world and the spirit world, probably in only a few areas. Since the image is seen in a wheat field full of graves, but in spirit form. Also, when accessing the portal to the Haligtree, you have to be in the evergaol dimesion in order to light the flame in the statues you can't see in the living world.
That "Shadow of the Erdtree" logo looks eerily similar to Shadow of Mordor/War.
Remember gamers "late is only for a little while, suck is forever"
Wise words from our lord & savior gaben.
Elden Ring players out here experiencing a fraction of the pain that Hollowknight fans have suffered waiting for Silksong, I think we'll be fine guys lol
All they need to do is release a couple new katanas and all of you will talk about it being GotY.
LOL, yeap dumb fanbois :D
miquella is one big griffith reference, so he definitely got dat bussy
I have so many games still to play, I'm fine with Elden Ring DLC taking some more time and be polished and the usual high quality.
Also when I saw the trailer for Black Myth my eyes teared up a bit, it looks so amazing and I reeeeally hope it's at least half of the quality and content that it looks to have now.
Totally agree with Prod, we are really feasting at the moment and have so many great games to play and look forward to.
I somewhat expected fromsoft to drop the trailer a day after the game awards
Because they are funny like that
Miquilla has definitely got dat bussy
11:33 So glad you said this, it really is irritating.. Like those unreasonably jaded people who contribute nothing to society, consume products, & call everything trash
The biggest issue for me personally is that the more time it takes, the more I expect from it, and personally, it's not fair to any dev. Expectations without any gameplay shown is a sure-fire way to be disappointed.
I am foaming at the mouth for this dlc, it’s just in time for my seasonal job to start up too so I’ll have something to do after my shifts ❤️
I feel like it’s more likely to come out early 2025, like January or February 2025. That might sound like forever from now but that’s just barely over a year away, we’re like 10 days from 2024 already. The amount of stuff we’ve seen for the dlc is VERY low, I say 5-6 months after we get the first gameplay trailer
While I loved ER, it's been so long. I've definitely moved on. I might pick up the expansion when it's really cheap. I just think games have really pushed on since ER
I‘m done with impatient idiots pressuring Artistic Creative Processes. Never helped with anything.
Two years of development is more than enough for a dlc at this point they should make a sequel.
@@manea7074 are you working in game development?
People who complain about how long it takes for the dlc to get out are the ones who cry the loudest when the dlc is not up to the same quality as the main game. And for everyone who played fromsoft dlcs so far knows the dlc are always an improvement to the main game. If you compare the scale of ER to their previous titles it makes sense for a DLC to take this long if they want to keep up their track record for DLCs in terms of quality and scale.
black myth wukong and ronin arent the only big games to come out in TGA, dont forget about another goated series and the reveal of MH Wilds 🗣
Dude second year of the release, and we will get that time i think. Its the best chance of us.
Elden Ring was the first souls game where I felt every area was thoughtfully planned out and nothing was rushed so taking all the time they want to take for the DLC is fine with me. Take the time, do the hard work to make it great, and then release it.
Before Soulsborne games Ninja Gaiden 2 for XBOX 360 was my all time favorite game. I loved Nioh too, but the thought of an open world Ninja Gaiden, hell, take my money!!!
i think its fine, they can take the time they need, but i dont like that they announced it so early when it wasnt even close to completion. growing tired of these 1+ year hype cycles honestly.
After they said wukong was mission based, i stopped caring
The grind i will put in this game again when this comes out is crazy.
Shadow is such a greay name for it because all the news is invisible
It's been a brutal wait for us (Day 1) Elden Ring players, we waited too damn long....
Hopefully they show elden ring DLC this next month, apparently fromsoftware always shows their dlc 1 month before it's actually out
so if elden ring dlc really comes in february they would show us a trailer for it next month :D
From has always delivered imo trust the process!
Somebody start a “like” counter
I casually play souls games wirh my friends and we have fun. We'll jump back on Elden Ring if they come out with a dlc.
I hope it's bigger than Bloodborne, because Bloodborne's size is a big point of contention for me. My very first playthrough, almost entirely blind, exploring the levels and finding some secrets (even the boss on the roof of the mansion), I clocked in almost exactly 18.5 hours at the credits. It's quite small.
That anime souls-like and No Rest for the Wicked look really cool.
April 1st you reckon? Hmm.
Let’s talk about buttered sausage.
That’s the 1st thing that came to my mind when seeing the title
I started playing the souls games with sekiro and I am super looking forward to elden ring dlc but I am a bit intimidated by the idea of having to re optimize my builds and go back through my challenge runs when the dlc comes out. I know I’ll probably get as obsorbed in it as I did in the main game and it is gonna be a super fun experience. I especially hope the dlc is accessible earlyish like Ariandel so that brave players can go there early for good loot. I also wholly agree with what you said about fromsoft being one of the few game companies that can be trusted. With most companies I would be expecting the worst possible outcome at this point but with Fromsoft I know whatever they’re cooking up is gonna be good and worth it. I feel like since elden ring soulslikes have really taken off and now the community has a ton of games to look forward to from other studios, which really makes the wait for elden ring dlc and the next fromsoft project after that not feel so bad. The souls comm7nity has grown so much with elden ring and I can’t wait to see what is going to happen when the dlc releases
People need to remember. An Elden Ring DLC isn't gonna be like other DLCs. I'm expecting the DLC to be about the size of limgrave and weeping peninsula or Luria of the lakes, which is a lot more work then any other DLC.
Cant wait for the reveal that Shadow Of The Erdtree is actually a full sequel and not a DLC.
Just like BotW and TotK
Wukong is not a souls game. Is just a boss rush. There’s no exploration whatsoever.
I really dont understand people who are like "I want this DLC now, how can this take so long..... and so on" We got so many unfinished games in the last few years that were just shit or needed another year or two of updates to be in a decent game play state. Let them cook, when its done its done.
My friend waited seven years for a kidney, and people be mad over two years for a video game expansion.
After no trailer I realize I’m hopping of the hype train and hopping on a hollow train.
My guess is they delayed it till 2025 or late 2024, if it would release early 2024 they probably would have announced it at TGA. They're probably more focused with developing their new IP.