Good old 1.0. I played a summoner necro as my very first character. Went up against Andariel with my little army of skeletons. Two poison spray attacks later, I had no skeletons, and was left running around the pool while whittling her down with level 3 teeth. I don't recall how long it took to kill her, but it was a very long time indeed.
I remember in this version, as a wee lad, I beat the game at level 30, with a necro who had horrific skill distribution (one in everything). I killed diablo with a great maul and it took me like 2 hours. No idea how I had that level of patience.
Games all took a long time back then and there weren't that many games, so it was logical to spend more time on a single game. It was a different time with different rewards.
@@stylis666 True, I miss those times when we could just focus on one game and thoroughly enjoy it. There still are some out there like the Souls series, but for the most part it's an era long gone in gaming
@@mikehawk8984 I do too and I sometimes try and revisit the FInal Fantasy series, but I honestly don't have the time or patience anymore. But I'll always have Diablo II, where I can just play single player with Plugy and now Cactus, which is AMAZING by the way, and spend as much or as little time as I have to spare and with the ridiculous amount of goals I have, I'll be long dead before I get bored with it. But yeah, times change and nostalgia is a real thing. I miss sitting in my room for days with nothing but any one Final Fantasy game I was playing at the time and I really miss getting a lvl 17 character in classic geared with set items and shizzle to PK multiple lvl 20+ characters in a game that were totally not built to fight but were overly confident because of their level advantage and they could team up :) And then stealing all their gold so they have to farm to even buy potions and scrolls :p Ah, the memories :D Those days are gone and no matter how much fun I have and no matter how much I think it's a good thing that things change, I will always think back to those days with melancholy and feel lucky that I was there to see computers progress and the internet gain popularity and culture and pop culture change. Before the NES and PS1 I had a Commodore 64 with hundreds of cracked games, a lot of which are still amazing and I sometimes play them on an emulator or just play the music from my favourite games. Even if games stopped altogether, I'll still have a ridiculously large pool of fond memories of growing up with games and computers. And I pretty much stopped with trying new games. They're too expensive and too complex for me to even want to figure it out. In that regard, a lot of games these days have the same appeal as games back then, just in a different way. But I think that having grown up with Diablo II makes every other game meh. Diablo II has it all, the atmosphere, the music, the characters, the NPS's, the near perfect loot table that no game has ever come close to, the skills, the stats and I could go on for hours about the stats on items and how they're classed and divided over items and have small numbers that make huge differences in survivability and playability of a character, like fhr to name just one of many. What other game has that in a way that makes such a huge impact on how controlling a character feels? I think we're just spoiled with having lived the glory days of possibly the best arpg of all times.
Oh man I remember trying to kill Diablo for the first time as a kid. It took me about an hour to get him to half HP, then I had to go to bed and paused and alt-tabbed. I told my entire family to not turn off the computer because I needed to defeat Diablo after getting home from school the next day. Cut to 18 hours later, my mom and brother picked me up from school; they looked at me with sadness in their eyes and said..."I'm sorry but there was a power cut..." Pretty sure I started crying.
@@Stratocaster42 Its a bittersweet moment remembering those moments in gaming. Unfortunately kids today aren't going to understand the heartrending sorrow that comes with a save file corruption because your mom called someone 😂
So, i remember this version. Lord De Seis was by far the most lethal monster in this version of the game. For one, he had thief which stole your potions. Second, he had Iron Maiden. If you were a whirlwind barb, the De Seis fight was frustrating because when you activated whirlwind, your belt locks. But at the same time, De Seis would try and steal a potion from the belt. This would result in the game crashing. Chaos was no joke back then.
Whenever I read these things I always end asking myself what was what they fixed for the patch that they launched few hours later after releasing v1.0.
For your next 1.0 speed run, just know that repairing items before selling them makes you more money, you can repair throwing potions to refill the stack (combine these tricks when you get a poison shrine to make big bank), and gambling is super overpowered, especially for rings.
Man I loved this 'speedrun' XD Not only is it highly nostalgic but I really liked how llama had to budget himself like a 40 year old tax payer while buying stuff. Actually added to the fun of it.
You kept wondering about the 150% damage to undead. Quick note: plain 150% means exactly the same, as +50% (as in 100%+50%). edit. just like Fast/faster/fastest run/walk represents 10/20/30% on the boots. They clarified a lot of the text over time.
Damn, that's a blast from the past. I saw so many things that brought me back to my childhood and my very first Celeron 300 Mhz, 128 MB RAM 16 MB voodoo banshee PC. Diablo 2 ran like butter...
@@jpteknoman Exactly :) Most of my friends were playing it and it was mostly lagging for them back in the day... Until a magazine published an article how to play Diablo 2 on a 266 Mhz 32 RAM 8 MB video on 25 frames and everyone did it. Had to restart windows after playing though and 90% of the processes had to be shut down, lol.
The non specifics on the items is why having a guide book was dope ! I didn't know how to read when I started playing these games though lol..Just watched my dad and went when it was my turn
I kinda like this version more. It feels more like the original diablo 1 and some things that feel obsolete in LoD d2 like energy being important made more sense. Rares were actually rare and uniques were unique.
Hey Mr. Llama. After pestering you about this awhile back, I am happy to see this video. I hope this inspired some people to do a little Diablo 2 time traveling because it was such a fun game pre-LOD with alternative builds. I hope you can get some more time travel content made. Cheers.
I always thought that I was just a dumb kid and was bad at D2 and that's why it was so hard. Turns out it was actually way harder back then! Love that you're bringing this ancient version of D2 back to life. It really does feel like quite a different game!
Remember back in the days, barb find potion is useful, sorc warmth is essential. I think boss group is just for hunt item as magical item is useful and they dropped it while normal exp. That's probably why remember last time play is go around all and whack every monster instead of find boss group to fight, it's probably to level. Back when rare drop is extremely hype and set and unique is a WOW. That's why back then the gem are so precious, the drop rate is very low, i still remember how hype i m when TCP with friend reached hell and he gave me perfect gem.
I love the cute questions in chat. "Does cold cancel poison?" As a matter of fact, if it's enough cold damage, it will cancel poison. If you're poisoned and you WW into a lightning+fire enchanted monster, that will also guaranteed cancel poison. Fun fact. WW-ing with Iron Maiden will also cancel poison. Not a lot of people know that. One thing that all of those things won't cancel is the WW itself. That will finish no matter how dead you are :p
Remember how awful classic was for hardcore physical units? chaos sanctuary runs are just so insanely dangerous, you can delete cold, poison, iron maiden curse, all your items and become a dark robed see through avatar very quickly. Last time I played a few years back I played hardcore classic with a hammerdin, got to level 58 in act 3 hell, and had to stop playing for a week thanks to a corpse pop fire enchanted unique enemy. The 100-0. HP in one pop when he died sucked. Believe it was at the stone gate to lower kurast. Didn’t make the same mistake when I went back and managed to get to close to level 70 and finished hell Diablo many times.
@@Opomax Yeah, and I never figured out how, I think it's Berserk where 100% of your physical damage is converted into magic and then you don't get damage from Iron Maiden and sometimes you do. How does that work? XD Online you could at least just BO and hop. It's also very relaxing to just follow the crowd and be an idiot without too many people minding you're being an idiot because you got BO :) Didn't much like that on hardcore though. TPPK was a killer and I was never the clan type. It's only since recent years that I play more single player and hardcore. The game got somewhat less deadly, all though I did murder a level forty something paladin in nightmare Durance of Hate. Got surrounded by dolls in a corner like a dumbass and figured, I got pots, I'll tele, how much damage do they do anyway if I don't make them explode? Yeah, well. Turns out it's enough XD I didn't have time for pots or tele and I learned to not think but hit escape instead. I got a sorc killed with a classic fire enchanted explosion in nightmare. I was orbing the heck out of the ancients and I checked two of them and Korlic was just moving too much and I had to dodge flying axes and WW's. You know how it is. So in the last seconds, I had the other two dead and I figured I could finally get a lock and check his attributes annnnd I shot an orb before checking, stepped to dodge the polearm and he was kind of low HP :P I just saw the fire enchanted and his HP and looked one more time at the beautiful orb graphics slicing straight through him. It was a beautiful hit and he landed and BOOM! He took me with him XD Bastard XD I mean, flipping hell, what are the odds? XD I knew he was close to death since the other two had already died, but I didn't think it was _that_ close XD I don't remember any other deaths. Just the funny ones XD In LoD it's also much less of a problem to get some decent gear for nightmare and hell and I hadn't lost anything super valuable. In classic it's much more of a struggle and an adventure. Online I used to just ignore LoD and in single player, it's really nice to have cheap runewords and I hate it that PlugY doesn't work for classic because that would be amazing for hardcore. Buuut, Cactus lets you change versions really quick and it has fixed loading times on TCP/IP, so muling is a lot easier now. And so is getting BO, Ench, or just rushing your char, which is very useful on earlier patches where we didn't have respec yet.
Okay I’m going to get long-winded on this game for a minute, maybe it’ll resonate with someone who felt a wave of nostalgia on that load in screen, that music. That tiny stash. Here we go. I remember this experience so vividly from my younger days. Not knowing what the hell I was doing. Just getting lost in a completely dark, immersive, and incredibly vast world to the much younger me. Experiencing Diablo 2 in some precious free time given to me by my mother, being allowed to lock myself in our office with the family Dell for a few hours. Maybe not being allowed and sneaking in there anyway ... and diving in... Gosh, that town music alone still floods me with nostalgia ... I would spend so long in town staring and studying the vendor weapons and armor, fascinated by the looks, sizes, damage - not caring or knowing even a whiff about what was “meta” or “bis” or “min/maxed”. I was a kid back then. I can vividly remember my first time getting to Act 2, probably after playing the game for weeks. Diablo 2 was such an insanely immersive experience, the game being so intimidating yet inviting, begging you to slowly explore the dark, scary, and unknown world - with a new challenge and a new item to loot around ever corner. With no judgement, no expectations, no feeling of not doing it fast enough or “meta enough”, no urge to read a guide and skip the grind where possible, etc. This game never held your hand, but it opened its hand to you, inviting you deeper. Like a deep and complex book, one that only you can extract the way forward by turning each page one-by-one, just you and Blizzard North. That is an ancient gaming philosophy now. We’re too smart, too good, too fast, too efficient. Who knew that after learning to fly, I’d miss crawling back then. Diablo 2 was the maze I crawled through - every other game I’ve played in the 15 years since then, I fly through. And let me tell you, do I miss the crawling. And back then, not knowing any better, it was those aspects I miss most. My lack of gaming experience, my ignorance of “learning” the game efficiently.... not feeling like I HAVE to play a certain way, a certain speed.... resulted in the most pure, immersive, and incredible gaming experience I’ve ever felt. Unrivaled. I was probably 7-12 years old back then, idk. Being 23 now and having gamed ever since, I’ve never ever felt that high, that rush, that the early D2 days gave me. I feel I’ve almost chased the feeling D2 gave me when I was young to an extent, ever since. I compare the slow, steady, BRUTAL, immersive experience of playing this game, reading item stats, staring at my stat tree (picking whatever sounded cool), loving the way my gear visually changed as I equipped armor of a new base (not even knowing what a base was back then), hell even socketing gems into my gear just for the color change it made it on my character. Now I play Path of Exile mostly for my ARPG fix , and sure it’s a great game. But spamming flasks, moving a million miles an hour across the screen, obliterating hundreds of monsters with each click, dashing around, farming maps, with 20+ stash tabs, a build perfectly min/maxed with finely crafted gear, considering all the breakpoints and calculations, all going into creating an efficient killing machine. Pushing to the deepest depths of the end game, after flying through leveling in any new character I start. I’ve become the master, and the game does my bidding. Back then with Diablo 2, it was my master. I was but a mere visitor in a world I never thought would be so hard to find again. But yet, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, my completely inefficient, ineffective, wrongly built, over-leveled barbarian in Diablo 2 as a young kid.... gave me a lifetime more enjoyment than my efficient, min/maxed, lightning fast, badass characters can ever come close to giving me now. No ARPG game will ever scratch the itch left from this game. The sad part is, you can never go back. Once you learn how to play games “properly”, any game, the experience changes. Sure, you can finally beat it efficiently. You finally “do it right”. You finally become a big dog, you win, you push hard, you carry people, you farm gear, you “perfect” your gaming experience. You get to access all that content you’ve always wanted to. But that can genuinely never replace what Diablo 2 provided for so many of us back then... it was just... different. Incredible. And a 10+ year wait for Diablo 3... for such disappointment, and even more since. Diablo 2, you changed my life... my gaming life... nerdy sure... but damn. Was it real back then. Love you Diablo 2. Love you. Maybe D4 won’t disappoint. But we all know, it’ll never feel the same.
A year later and no one has the sack to comment on this pure poetry. I'm right there with you man. Diablo 2 wasn't that game for me back the but it is now and I've struggled to find something as daunting/satisfying for many years. From JRPGs to Survival games, there's few out there besides maybe the souls games that provide that sense of dread and reward
WOW brings me right back to freshman year of highscool. You should do a speedrun of all 5 characters on Normal for the complete showcase, but when you do Necro, PLEASE do summoner and get a 60+ army, just for the meme. I used to love my General Necromancer.
I remember the day the + stat & skill buttons were moved into the bottom. My friends and I were so excited because we had been wanting this change so bad. We didn't like them floating on the play area because we would accidentally click them right as we leveled up and could cause our death due to the screen popping up.
I remember that Fast Run/Walk, after that you get "Faster" and finally there's "Fastest" (Not sure about the actual speed but I think it's 10%, 20% and 30% increased movement speed)
I remember a small article in a gaming journal where they suggested how to edit save file to get 65536 gold. It was a loooooot of gold back in the day :)
I love this game 😀 very interesting to see how the game evolved from a d1 sequel into a completely different game. Also love how speedrun unfriendly this is llama "I don't have any money" leaves 200+ gold on the ground which is like 10% of his net worth at the time 😂 Thank you for the content Llama. The variety of a "pure" d2 streamer still amazes me 👍
I remember the game like this. Before I got the game me, my brother and friends played the shit out of the demo which I got in a pc magazine when I was 9-10. In the demo the stony field is blocked off, as far as you can go is blood raven. You can only play as a barb and the only skill points you can put up is the first level ones. I got a barb to level 14 or 15, which is insanely high. Most items didn’t change your appearance, especially the gamble items like scale mail which cost an absolutely insane amount of gold and typically sucked, it all just looked like what quilt armour looks like too. Probably the best damage you could get in the demo is by finding a gem shrine and upping chipped gems to flawed or the level up from that and putting them into 3 socketed long swords. When we got the full game 1.08 was just ending on battlenet, and on non ladder things arkaines Valor 1.08 version was the most expensive trade item in game. 1.09 cow level runs was the most immensely fun thing ever. Shame they nerfed the experience gained, in a sense it was a good thing due to people killing the cow king and trolling everyone, but I think they should have allowed cow levels to be opened even if you had killed the king as they shit on Baal runs. Also they used to have so even if you were level one in a cow run in hell you’d gain like 60 levels in one run. Before I stopped playing from the initial time me and my friends started battlenet, runewords had just come in, and there as that glitch where if you unsocketed a certain runeword the stats stayed and you could throw 3-4 more runes into it. They were called ith swords as people typically put ith runes in it, normally some ohm tunes as well. I also remember those hacked occulus rings they would go poof a week or 2 after trading for one. I don’t mind 1.13-1.14, for long term players it’s a change, and cool how many builds you can make, especially enigma making it so any player class can teleport so you aren’t force to magic find with a sorc. Also infinity made it so classes weren’t useless in hell due to immunities. Overall it wasn’t as fun as 1.08-1.09, though I do love the Ubers, but without new age runewords that would have been close to impossible for most builds, probably an old school fast attacking physical unit with a necro using life tap or summoning a load could have done it. One more memory. Amazons used to be the absolute best. Wind force was the ultimate item. Eagle horn was highly sought after but a lot cheaper. Then Buriza typically came third. I remember people used to rage about people using buriza, the term was ‘buriza lamer’ for people that froze and owned everyone in PVP, was hilarious.
Needed some background noise while I was doing research for my thesis, but I have no self control and wanted to see the purple monsters, so now I am watching this.. thank you MrLlama
This explains so much. I just assumed I was terrible at the game when I played it as a kid but I guess it was genuinely harder. I remember getting stuck in act 2 in the viper temple as a necro.
Oh man... This really brings me back. I remember being 9, as my 10th birthday in 2000 hadn't rolled around yet, and my older brother, myself, and two of our friends, dragged all of our desktops and monitors to my dad's apartment and played LAN all weekend after this released. I remember being so happy the game was brighter than Diablo, which I loved but scared me shitless as I used to be afraid of the dark. Then came the Monastery >.>'. God damn I love this game XD. I've gone back to it every year since its release.
It's also funny to note that once I got through the Monastery for like the 10th time I was totally fine with how dark it was. In fact, I looooooved the atmosphere of it. God, even with all the features they added later missing, what a good game.
I think it would be cool if you just made a playthrough of this version, explore a little and find the differences! Speedrunning it is painful to watch lol
Something that I just remembered that might help for people starting out in previous versions of D2: Shops buy damaged/broken items for far less and it actually gives you more money to repair before selling
I agree that synergies were a good change. Synergies did end up nerfing some builds that were viable in 1.0 though. Overall it was the correct feature to provide. I love all the mods and community remastered versions that are being made. It really breathes life in to the game.
Wooo classic Diablo2. I remember my 1.0 sorceress... That was so fun to play. Lots of investment in "Warmth" (I think I was maxxed) and Used a crossbow of somekind, one the fast ones. My friend really loved the Necromancer with shitton of skellies and his blood golem, with that poison dagger skill or something. He would create a huge mob and then I'd explode them with the Orb. Fun times. Man that brings me back.
Getting that manaleech early on must have felt so good, haha. And yes Classic Whirlwind was one of the best feeling skills ever. Flamespike was removed because hardcore characters kept dying to him while loading the area and the amplify+fire enchant being so strong. They should have just moved the pack further away from the waypoint in my opinion.
I remember playing this version back in the late 90s. Still loved it. I was resistant to the changes in the later patches, and I didn't want to get the expansion. I did though, and loved it!
For anyone interested in playing v1.0 (or any other version of D2) - You can easily switch between all versions of D2 using Cactus by fearedbliss ... if you have any experience installing any mods it should be easy to do! github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus ua-cam.com/video/j7gyc6jp644/v-deo.html In short - Cactus allows you to easily switch between versions on the fly using only 1 installation of D2 - each version's save files are isolated and are safe when switching versions. Also includes Singling features - which greatly improve the performance of the game + other QoL features. Amazing tool for those wanting to experience previous versions of D2 without the pain of installing each version individually.
Works like a charm! Thanks! A lot easier than anything I've tried before. And Ohhhh!!! That Singling, making it super fast to make TCP/IP games. That's very nice for rushing, muling and buffing and stuff. I suppose that ATMA works with most versions? Maybe? Sort of? I never did like ATMA much for its bugs with items corrupting files like Hsarus boots and SoJs though.
I remember playing this version on a very old pc, every time a "ghost" appeared, the game crashed, I was able to play up to Mephisto by circumventing Archane with a trainer (I don't know how I did this with very little knowledge of english), as soon as I got to Mephisto, it crashed again. Lovely and sad times indeed
I remeber this 1.0 well.. I played barb as well as a kid. I recall inviting my friend when I was about to finally kill duriel on normal. My bud was there only to have his fingers on 1-4 hotkeys for potions to heal me while I was focused on killing duriel. It was such a grind back then.. But finally entering kurast for the first time ever (not knowing what to expect cause there was no internet) seemd so special and satisfying. Insane
Wow! Im just about to watch this! So fun!!! I just have one question regarding this video: as a streamer, do you often get the same questions over and over again?
haha dude I wish you played diablo this way half the time at least. I'd love to see how you progress each character. Seems like the hardest version/ most rewarding like Dark Souls. Much better than the mods in my opinion. No crazy items that don't make sense. No screens full of explosions and not knowing whats going on just farming loot. You killed it with this idea
This is the way I played the game when it was new, and then it is how I was playing D2R and I was like, dang this D2R is easy and I get so much gold! also, watching you fight the smith reminds me of why I barely made it into the middle of Act 2 back in the day...
Spend so much playing that game, my whole family beat it! What I do remember the most were the awful drop rates on everything, if you didnt gamble you might have gone through 4 acts finding 1 yellow and 1 gold item at average. With no mana pots , every character had to be somewhat competent in melee and had decent defense, doing quests was vital cause all the rewards mattered so much more. Still quality of life coming from LoD and later patches opened up the game for way more playstyles and experimenting so that version is the absolute king over nostalgic feelings :D
1.0 was so weird. I imagine it's because a lot of the files were lost almost at the time the game was released, so this was the best they can replicate the game in a short time frame.
Those skellies sure have changed as well. I have just tried Cactus out and you don't only get an extra skellie with every skill level, but they're horrible! They start out with like 21 life and 1-2 damage and only gain life and damage from the mastery and their pathing is awful, attackspeed is awful and they get lost and poof out of existence when they're too far behind or just in town and for no reason other than that they seem to have a timer and all that jazz XD And good luck getting an army up in act4 or resummoning after you've run out of mana :p
@@stylis666 just needed some mana leech as 1.0 leech was busted for getting mana, and ya skeles were kinda bad but the worst part was having like 22 skeles which lagged so much it would dc you in areas like CS lol..
People saying skellies in chaos are worthless when they are actually still useful for the iron maiden spell, you just have to constantly raise them, but say goodbye to them when diablo makes fire nova, even in higher raise and mastery levels.
A long time ago, items of remedy used to reduce poison duration. By 25% each. That was listed in the description. Perhaps those would’ve made fighting Andariel easy. I did not note if you’d socketed rubies in your weapons. Given how hard the Smith was, you’d expect Andariel to be about 3x worse... No frickin’ wonder the game took so long when it came out for me!! Nice to know I wasn’t as a bad a player as I thought!
Now do you remember why we used to kill EVERYTHING? Lol And I remember when the potions at vendors changed. I panicked thinking you could only buy one of each.
You get so excited to get normal items to fill a slot at all haha This was your most entertaining content yet. I hate how now you can throw everything away and don't have to pick up gold cause every item is worth a fortune. In real life you'd always pick up gold pieces off the floor and in real life there aren't magic items under every rock or in every box you open. Just a much more legit feeling even as a viewer. I could just imagine getting all the best items in this version feeling so rewarding
This is what i remember as one of the first ever pc games i ever played back in 2000 when my dad suddenly came home and told me and my brother he had bought us a computer for use
Amen! This is what Diablo 2 was initially about. Hard and every detail counted. Still remember like Sorc fight screwed as no mana. Or OP Necro suddently unplayable... :D
You were right about the adding the probabilities for rolls. If you have a 6 sided die and you want to know the probability of rolling either a 3 or a 6 its 1/3 or 1/6+1/6. If you want to know the probability of rolling a 3 and then a 6 its 1/6*1/6=1/36. In the case you were talking about you wanted one OR the other, so the probabilities add.
Still unsure if I like that they took our Iron Maiden in the chaos sanctuary. That made it much more scary, like A5 souls and A3 dolls. I’ll refer to this dilemma as Schrodinger’s Maiden
Paladin was actually quite strong, because you pick War Hammer with knockback, equip Charge and Holy Freeze and then beat the crap out of everyone, because Charge had no attack rating, it always hit. With Barb, leap attack (lvl 18 skill) had no attack rating, so most people run one of the giant weapons (usually polearm) with leap attack for main and whirlwind for right click. WW was also lot stronger then in LOD (later patches, it was still pretty good in 1.7-1.09).
yeah that was op i didnt have so strong computer, but my friend who showed me D2 had the same as you. I had an AMD-k6 II with 300 Mhz, it was awfully slow when we played LAN but still was very much fun!
i love how if LLama had been a normal diablo player playing this, hed still be in stony field in his 5th hour. but since hes a far above average player he can move far beyond. with things like "you think ill be level 30 by the time i get to diablo" well yes...that was the point back then...when this first came out...you might have been close to 40 by the time you cleared chaos enough to fight the big man
The people are spoken and we are happy with your return to the ways of our childhoods OG d2 LoD would be good too. Like 1.07? Or whatever the first one was
Llama, please do a 1.0 necro run? As a necro/assa player, I've always enjoyed your runs! Plus, it's going to be an interesting challenge - I like d2 1.0 because the player can't rely on rune recipes or respec. Overall it makes you achieve more with less. Which is cool in it's own way. Running 1.0 on a modern machine should be much easier if you spin up a Virtualbox VM and install an old copy of XP or 2000. I doubt Win 7 would cooperate, but still, it's an option.
I remember how happy I was when I found my first good rare lance for my barb... and how absolutely painfully slow a spear barb was at leveling to 30. You exclusively attacked single targets and all you could reasonably do to improve your damage was to increase your mastery because there was no such thing as synergies or respecs. Looking at the HC ladders for the melee characters compared to the casters was quite amusing as well, since all of the melee characters died *way* earlier because of iron maiden. And yes. pretty much *exclusively* because of iron maiden. If people would still play it today, I'd suggest leveling a necro up and join a game to kill Diablo and watch what happens when you cast iron maiden on the enemies when there's melee characters attacking the enemies. But hey, at least the necro's blood golem was borderline immortal when dealing with melee enemies if you used iron maiden. Duriel was *never* easier than with a blood golem and iron maiden. Getting to level 18 in act 2 on the other hand was quite a challenge back then. But hey, this is just how I remember things.
I know why you chose the barb, but I really wanted to see the Sorc without mana potions, as it was originally intended, bc after mana the sorc became soooo op. Just my sadistic contribution 😂 Love your streams btw, I don't watch streamers but you're entertaining and so chill
Amazing content. I wish you do some other old patch content some day. Like 1.08 LoD would be interesting also. In 2000 I started D2 in single player in 1.00. I played at least a 70 level Necro, 66 level sorc 75 or so level Barb. Leveling up after 70 was really slow because no other players in the game to increase the exp gains, so basically after 75 or at the latest at 80 you really don't get much exp at all in single player game and it doesn't make much sense to continue. Also the monsters drop very little loot and they are kinda too easy in single player when you get better items. Then at the end of 2000 I got some decent internet connection and used school PC's to play also .. so I jumped to Battle.net play at around 1.04 or 1.05. The game really changes with multiple players in the game and those later patches of Classic. So yeah I recommend trying 1.05. It has some the quirks of this 1.00 version but a lot of stuff fixed. Like the single items in vendors etc. There is a mod that you can copy to D2 folder to run multiple clients.. thats how I get multiple players in a TCP/IP game which makes the experience a lot different. Recently I've started to play 1.06 in single player but TCP/IP game with 5-6 client in game. Even streaming to twich for some archive material. Probably should upload to here to keep it :) Currently in Act4 normal with paladin and barb. Need to get 5 chars to NM at the same time to get 5 players there also :)
This is so fun and hilarious. I feel like this is the way the game should be though. Having to use everything that drops. Not having infinite amounts of anything. Having to kill every monster to beat the game. That's Diablo 1 as well in a nut shell also
Diablo 1 was the first game I ever played. I was born in 1995. Diablo 2 came not too long after I got done with that. I always wondered why Diablo was so different when I got older
Have to be in a mood for crunchy peanut butter... but thats sooooo damn rare. Oh you mentioned how slow EverQuest is.... Check out Project 1999 Blue & Green Servers. All the classic race/class penalties, and all the grind!
![DIABLO ONE - ROGUE PLAYTHROUGH [Part 1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5IfgQjpDJeg/mqdefault.jpg)
Good old 1.0. I played a summoner necro as my very first character. Went up against Andariel with my little army of skeletons. Two poison spray attacks later, I had no skeletons, and was left running around the pool while whittling her down with level 3 teeth. I don't recall how long it took to kill her, but it was a very long time indeed.
And zero valuable drops :D
I also remember being broke af till I got to Countess. Then I felt like a billionare - who got broke instantly :D
I remember in this version, as a wee lad, I beat the game at level 30, with a necro who had horrific skill distribution (one in everything). I killed diablo with a great maul and it took me like 2 hours. No idea how I had that level of patience.
Games all took a long time back then and there weren't that many games, so it was logical to spend more time on a single game. It was a different time with different rewards.
@@stylis666 True, I miss those times when we could just focus on one game and thoroughly enjoy it. There still are some out there like the Souls series, but for the most part it's an era long gone in gaming
@@mikehawk8984 I do too and I sometimes try and revisit the FInal Fantasy series, but I honestly don't have the time or patience anymore. But I'll always have Diablo II, where I can just play single player with Plugy and now Cactus, which is AMAZING by the way, and spend as much or as little time as I have to spare and with the ridiculous amount of goals I have, I'll be long dead before I get bored with it.
But yeah, times change and nostalgia is a real thing. I miss sitting in my room for days with nothing but any one Final Fantasy game I was playing at the time and I really miss getting a lvl 17 character in classic geared with set items and shizzle to PK multiple lvl 20+ characters in a game that were totally not built to fight but were overly confident because of their level advantage and they could team up :) And then stealing all their gold so they have to farm to even buy potions and scrolls :p Ah, the memories :D Those days are gone and no matter how much fun I have and no matter how much I think it's a good thing that things change, I will always think back to those days with melancholy and feel lucky that I was there to see computers progress and the internet gain popularity and culture and pop culture change.
Before the NES and PS1 I had a Commodore 64 with hundreds of cracked games, a lot of which are still amazing and I sometimes play them on an emulator or just play the music from my favourite games.
Even if games stopped altogether, I'll still have a ridiculously large pool of fond memories of growing up with games and computers. And I pretty much stopped with trying new games. They're too expensive and too complex for me to even want to figure it out.
In that regard, a lot of games these days have the same appeal as games back then, just in a different way. But I think that having grown up with Diablo II makes every other game meh. Diablo II has it all, the atmosphere, the music, the characters, the NPS's, the near perfect loot table that no game has ever come close to, the skills, the stats and I could go on for hours about the stats on items and how they're classed and divided over items and have small numbers that make huge differences in survivability and playability of a character, like fhr to name just one of many. What other game has that in a way that makes such a huge impact on how controlling a character feels? I think we're just spoiled with having lived the glory days of possibly the best arpg of all times.
Oh man I remember trying to kill Diablo for the first time as a kid. It took me about an hour to get him to half HP, then I had to go to bed and paused and alt-tabbed. I told my entire family to not turn off the computer because I needed to defeat Diablo after getting home from school the next day. Cut to 18 hours later, my mom and brother picked me up from school; they looked at me with sadness in their eyes and said..."I'm sorry but there was a power cut..."
Pretty sure I started crying.
@@Stratocaster42 Its a bittersweet moment remembering those moments in gaming. Unfortunately kids today aren't going to understand the heartrending sorrow that comes with a save file corruption because your mom called someone 😂
Oh, so THIS is the version i've been playing for the majority of my childhood! It all comes back to me now.
Me too 😀
this version is WAY HARDER lol
When llama starts to pick up 7 gold, I know this is interesting.
Back in 1.0 the corpse explosion was considered a bug. If I recall you could kill things wayyyy off screen.
So, i remember this version. Lord De Seis was by far the most lethal monster in this version of the game. For one, he had thief which stole your potions. Second, he had Iron Maiden. If you were a whirlwind barb, the De Seis fight was frustrating because when you activated whirlwind, your belt locks. But at the same time, De Seis would try and steal a potion from the belt. This would result in the game crashing. Chaos was no joke back then.
Hmm was I ... oh Indeed I was xD
I think Ancient Kaa of Soulless is toughee in nightmare and hell difficulty
Whenever I read these things I always end asking myself what was what they fixed for the patch that they launched few hours later after releasing v1.0.
For your next 1.0 speed run, just know that repairing items before selling them makes you more money, you can repair throwing potions to refill the stack (combine these tricks when you get a poison shrine to make big bank), and gambling is super overpowered, especially for rings.
I still have the impulse to put them into my inventory one at a time when I find a poison shrine, for maximum bank in town. So many memories :P
Man I loved this 'speedrun' XD
Not only is it highly nostalgic but I really liked how llama had to budget himself like a 40 year old tax payer while buying stuff. Actually added to the fun of it.
You kept wondering about the 150% damage to undead. Quick note: plain 150% means exactly the same, as +50% (as in 100%+50%).
edit.
just like Fast/faster/fastest run/walk represents 10/20/30% on the boots. They clarified a lot of the text over time.
Yes it was very surprising that Lama is so unfamiliar with those pre Lord of Destruction notions.
@@desmonddies When alot of us played we were kids the. LoD came out so there was no reason to remember any of it.
Damn, that's a blast from the past. I saw so many things that brought me back to my childhood and my very first Celeron 300 Mhz, 128 MB RAM 16 MB voodoo banshee PC. Diablo 2 ran like butter...
butter smooth 25 fps... well, considering that with a similar PC the first Half Life ran at 12fps and i thought it was playable
@@jpteknoman Exactly :) Most of my friends were playing it and it was mostly lagging for them back in the day... Until a magazine published an article how to play Diablo 2 on a 266 Mhz 32 RAM 8 MB video on 25 frames and everyone did it. Had to restart windows after playing though and 90% of the processes had to be shut down, lol.
The non specifics on the items is why having a guide book was dope ! I didn't know how to read when I started playing these games though lol..Just watched my dad and went when it was my turn
I kinda like this version more. It feels more like the original diablo 1 and some things that feel obsolete in LoD d2 like energy being important made more sense. Rares were actually rare and uniques were unique.
I turned 30 last Saturday. I'm so old now. D2 is the only thing that keeps me tied to my youth. :( I love you Llama.
I feel you, my 30th was a couple weeks ago. This game hasn't aged a day.
Turning 31 tomorrow. I've reached the point where I feel like screaming "nooooo makeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstop!!"
Youth is a state of mind, bro.
Hey Mr. Llama. After pestering you about this awhile back, I am happy to see this video. I hope this inspired some people to do a little Diablo 2 time traveling because it was such a fun game pre-LOD with alternative builds. I hope you can get some more time travel content made. Cheers.
I can't believe how many different ways you've found to enjoy and master this game. You are a D2 legend, and one of my favorite gamers ever.
I always thought that I was just a dumb kid and was bad at D2 and that's why it was so hard. Turns out it was actually way harder back then! Love that you're bringing this ancient version of D2 back to life. It really does feel like quite a different game!
old zealadin was hilarious. It's an extra swing for every point. So if you have 20 points, you sit there while it swings 20 times.
Remember back in the days, barb find potion is useful, sorc warmth is essential. I think boss group is just for hunt item as magical item is useful and they dropped it while normal exp. That's probably why remember last time play is go around all and whack every monster instead of find boss group to fight, it's probably to level. Back when rare drop is extremely hype and set and unique is a WOW. That's why back then the gem are so precious, the drop rate is very low, i still remember how hype i m when TCP with friend reached hell and he gave me perfect gem.
I love the cute questions in chat.
"Does cold cancel poison?"
As a matter of fact, if it's enough cold damage, it will cancel poison. If you're poisoned and you WW into a lightning+fire enchanted monster, that will also guaranteed cancel poison. Fun fact. WW-ing with Iron Maiden will also cancel poison. Not a lot of people know that. One thing that all of those things won't cancel is the WW itself. That will finish no matter how dead you are :p
Remember how awful classic was for hardcore physical units? chaos sanctuary runs are just so insanely dangerous, you can delete cold, poison, iron maiden curse, all your items and become a dark robed see through avatar very quickly.
Last time I played a few years back I played hardcore classic with a hammerdin, got to level 58 in act 3 hell, and had to stop playing for a week thanks to a corpse pop fire enchanted unique enemy. The 100-0. HP in one pop when he died sucked. Believe it was at the stone gate to lower kurast. Didn’t make the same mistake when I went back and managed to get to close to level 70 and finished hell Diablo many times.
@@Opomax Yeah, and I never figured out how, I think it's Berserk where 100% of your physical damage is converted into magic and then you don't get damage from Iron Maiden and sometimes you do. How does that work? XD Online you could at least just BO and hop. It's also very relaxing to just follow the crowd and be an idiot without too many people minding you're being an idiot because you got BO :) Didn't much like that on hardcore though. TPPK was a killer and I was never the clan type.
It's only since recent years that I play more single player and hardcore. The game got somewhat less deadly, all though I did murder a level forty something paladin in nightmare Durance of Hate. Got surrounded by dolls in a corner like a dumbass and figured, I got pots, I'll tele, how much damage do they do anyway if I don't make them explode? Yeah, well. Turns out it's enough XD I didn't have time for pots or tele and I learned to not think but hit escape instead.
I got a sorc killed with a classic fire enchanted explosion in nightmare. I was orbing the heck out of the ancients and I checked two of them and Korlic was just moving too much and I had to dodge flying axes and WW's. You know how it is. So in the last seconds, I had the other two dead and I figured I could finally get a lock and check his attributes annnnd I shot an orb before checking, stepped to dodge the polearm and he was kind of low HP :P I just saw the fire enchanted and his HP and looked one more time at the beautiful orb graphics slicing straight through him. It was a beautiful hit and he landed and BOOM! He took me with him XD Bastard XD I mean, flipping hell, what are the odds? XD I knew he was close to death since the other two had already died, but I didn't think it was _that_ close XD
I don't remember any other deaths. Just the funny ones XD
In LoD it's also much less of a problem to get some decent gear for nightmare and hell and I hadn't lost anything super valuable. In classic it's much more of a struggle and an adventure. Online I used to just ignore LoD and in single player, it's really nice to have cheap runewords and I hate it that PlugY doesn't work for classic because that would be amazing for hardcore.
Buuut, Cactus lets you change versions really quick and it has fixed loading times on TCP/IP, so muling is a lot easier now. And so is getting BO, Ench, or just rushing your char, which is very useful on earlier patches where we didn't have respec yet.
Say what you want about 1.0 but my god is the Character Selecting Screen superior than LoD. That enchanting blue sky at the background is so nostalgic
I play without the expansion pack and I've been playing it like that for 7 years, I'm so glad someone is still playing it and playing it this way!
Pretty sure you can repair throwing pots at Charsi
Also, the "150% damage to undead" is the same as the current "+50% damage to undead"
What is repairing pots?
Okay I’m going to get long-winded on this game for a minute, maybe it’ll resonate with someone who felt a wave of nostalgia on that load in screen, that music. That tiny stash. Here we go. I remember this experience so vividly from my younger days. Not knowing what the hell I was doing. Just getting lost in a completely dark, immersive, and incredibly vast world to the much younger me. Experiencing Diablo 2 in some precious free time given to me by my mother, being allowed to lock myself in our office with the family Dell for a few hours. Maybe not being allowed and sneaking in there anyway ... and diving in... Gosh, that town music alone still floods me with nostalgia ... I would spend so long in town staring and studying the vendor weapons and armor, fascinated by the looks, sizes, damage - not caring or knowing even a whiff about what was “meta” or “bis” or “min/maxed”. I was a kid back then. I can vividly remember my first time getting to Act 2, probably after playing the game for weeks. Diablo 2 was such an insanely immersive experience, the game being so intimidating yet inviting, begging you to slowly explore the dark, scary, and unknown world - with a new challenge and a new item to loot around ever corner. With no judgement, no expectations, no feeling of not doing it fast enough or “meta enough”, no urge to read a guide and skip the grind where possible, etc. This game never held your hand, but it opened its hand to you, inviting you deeper. Like a deep and complex book, one that only you can extract the way forward by turning each page one-by-one, just you and Blizzard North. That is an ancient gaming philosophy now. We’re too smart, too good, too fast, too efficient. Who knew that after learning to fly, I’d miss crawling back then. Diablo 2 was the maze I crawled through - every other game I’ve played in the 15 years since then, I fly through. And let me tell you, do I miss the crawling. And back then, not knowing any better, it was those aspects I miss most. My lack of gaming experience, my ignorance of “learning” the game efficiently.... not feeling like I HAVE to play a certain way, a certain speed.... resulted in the most pure, immersive, and incredible gaming experience I’ve ever felt. Unrivaled. I was probably 7-12 years old back then, idk. Being 23 now and having gamed ever since, I’ve never ever felt that high, that rush, that the early D2 days gave me. I feel I’ve almost chased the feeling D2 gave me when I was young to an extent, ever since. I compare the slow, steady, BRUTAL, immersive experience of playing this game, reading item stats, staring at my stat tree (picking whatever sounded cool), loving the way my gear visually changed as I equipped armor of a new base (not even knowing what a base was back then), hell even socketing gems into my gear just for the color change it made it on my character. Now I play Path of Exile mostly for my ARPG fix , and sure it’s a great game. But spamming flasks, moving a million miles an hour across the screen, obliterating hundreds of monsters with each click, dashing around, farming maps, with 20+ stash tabs, a build perfectly min/maxed with finely crafted gear, considering all the breakpoints and calculations, all going into creating an efficient killing machine. Pushing to the deepest depths of the end game, after flying through leveling in any new character I start. I’ve become the master, and the game does my bidding. Back then with Diablo 2, it was my master. I was but a mere visitor in a world I never thought would be so hard to find again. But yet, without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, my completely inefficient, ineffective, wrongly built, over-leveled barbarian in Diablo 2 as a young kid.... gave me a lifetime more enjoyment than my efficient, min/maxed, lightning fast, badass characters can ever come close to giving me now. No ARPG game will ever scratch the itch left from this game. The sad part is, you can never go back. Once you learn how to play games “properly”, any game, the experience changes. Sure, you can finally beat it efficiently. You finally “do it right”. You finally become a big dog, you win, you push hard, you carry people, you farm gear, you “perfect” your gaming experience. You get to access all that content you’ve always wanted to. But that can genuinely never replace what Diablo 2 provided for so many of us back then... it was just... different. Incredible. And a 10+ year wait for Diablo 3... for such disappointment, and even more since. Diablo 2, you changed my life... my gaming life... nerdy sure... but damn. Was it real back then. Love you Diablo 2. Love you. Maybe D4 won’t disappoint. But we all know, it’ll never feel the same.
A year later and no one has the sack to comment on this pure poetry. I'm right there with you man. Diablo 2 wasn't that game for me back the but it is now and I've struggled to find something as daunting/satisfying for many years. From JRPGs to Survival games, there's few out there besides maybe the souls games that provide that sense of dread and reward
WOW brings me right back to freshman year of highscool. You should do a speedrun of all 5 characters on Normal for the complete showcase, but when you do Necro, PLEASE do summoner and get a 60+ army, just for the meme. I used to love my General Necromancer.
I remember the day the + stat & skill buttons were moved into the bottom. My friends and I were so excited because we had been wanting this change so bad. We didn't like them floating on the play area because we would accidentally click them right as we leveled up and could cause our death due to the screen popping up.
Man, this is another memorable video from Llama: potion drop pickup, purple monsters, ding. Cannot get it out of my head!
6:22 nice Warriv moonwalk
I didn't see it the first time lol
This is the best comment.. everybody should see this
LOL
this killed me hahahaha
I remember that Fast Run/Walk, after that you get "Faster" and finally there's "Fastest" (Not sure about the actual speed but I think it's 10%, 20% and 30% increased movement speed)
I remember a small article in a gaming journal where they suggested how to edit save file to get 65536 gold. It was a loooooot of gold back in the day :)
I love the fact that you have to do classic Diablo 1 tactics in 1.0. d
I love this game 😀 very interesting to see how the game evolved from a d1 sequel into a completely different game. Also love how speedrun unfriendly this is llama "I don't have any money" leaves 200+ gold on the ground which is like 10% of his net worth at the time 😂
Thank you for the content Llama. The variety of a "pure" d2 streamer still amazes me 👍
I remember the game like this. Before I got the game me, my brother and friends played the shit out of the demo which I got in a pc magazine when I was 9-10. In the demo the stony field is blocked off, as far as you can go is blood raven. You can only play as a barb and the only skill points you can put up is the first level ones. I got a barb to level 14 or 15, which is insanely high. Most items didn’t change your appearance, especially the gamble items like scale mail which cost an absolutely insane amount of gold and typically sucked, it all just looked like what quilt armour looks like too.
Probably the best damage you could get in the demo is by finding a gem shrine and upping chipped gems to flawed or the level up from that and putting them into 3 socketed long swords.
When we got the full game 1.08 was just ending on battlenet, and on non ladder things arkaines Valor 1.08 version was the most expensive trade item in game.
1.09 cow level runs was the most immensely fun thing ever. Shame they nerfed the experience gained, in a sense it was a good thing due to people killing the cow king and trolling everyone, but I think they should have allowed cow levels to be opened even if you had killed the king as they shit on Baal runs. Also they used to have so even if you were level one in a cow run in hell you’d gain like 60 levels in one run.
Before I stopped playing from the initial time me and my friends started battlenet, runewords had just come in, and there as that glitch where if you unsocketed a certain runeword the stats stayed and you could throw 3-4 more runes into it. They were called ith swords as people typically put ith runes in it, normally some ohm tunes as well. I also remember those hacked occulus rings they would go poof a week or 2 after trading for one.
I don’t mind 1.13-1.14, for long term players it’s a change, and cool how many builds you can make, especially enigma making it so any player class can teleport so you aren’t force to magic find with a sorc. Also infinity made it so classes weren’t useless in hell due to immunities. Overall it wasn’t as fun as 1.08-1.09, though I do love the Ubers, but without new age runewords that would have been close to impossible for most builds, probably an old school fast attacking physical unit with a necro using life tap or summoning a load could have done it.
One more memory. Amazons used to be the absolute best. Wind force was the ultimate item. Eagle horn was highly sought after but a lot cheaper. Then Buriza typically came third. I remember people used to rage about people using buriza, the term was ‘buriza lamer’ for people that froze and owned everyone in PVP, was hilarious.
Needed some background noise while I was doing research for my thesis, but I have no self control and wanted to see the purple monsters, so now I am watching this.. thank you MrLlama
I am honestly impressed how he managed to survive so many times at like 1% hp without breaking a sweat
how amazing was entering arcane sanctuary for the first time? I was 13 y/o my mind exploded
Reminds me more of an improved D1 than current D2: LoD.
It's literally a completely different game. Good luck.
This explains so much. I just assumed I was terrible at the game when I played it as a kid but I guess it was genuinely harder. I remember getting stuck in act 2 in the viper temple as a necro.
Oh man... This really brings me back. I remember being 9, as my 10th birthday in 2000 hadn't rolled around yet, and my older brother, myself, and two of our friends, dragged all of our desktops and monitors to my dad's apartment and played LAN all weekend after this released. I remember being so happy the game was brighter than Diablo, which I loved but scared me shitless as I used to be afraid of the dark. Then came the Monastery >.>'. God damn I love this game XD. I've gone back to it every year since its release.
It's also funny to note that once I got through the Monastery for like the 10th time I was totally fine with how dark it was. In fact, I looooooved the atmosphere of it. God, even with all the features they added later missing, what a good game.
This brings back nightmares...I played alot of D2 when it came out...but I didn't start loving the game untill LOD game out. haha, awesome video!
I think it would be cool if you just made a playthrough of this version, explore a little and find the differences! Speedrunning it is painful to watch lol
Something that I just remembered that might help for people starting out in previous versions of D2: Shops buy damaged/broken items for far less and it actually gives you more money to repair before selling
This was a really interesting run. Very nostalgic and makes you appreciate the changes made for QOL.
Those skill synergies were the best change they made. Made it so better
I agree that synergies were a good change. Synergies did end up nerfing some builds that were viable in 1.0 though. Overall it was the correct feature to provide. I love all the mods and community remastered versions that are being made. It really breathes life in to the game.
You didn't say "Mr. LlamaSC here." ;-; How am i supposed to know who's greeting me now?
Sorry :(
Oh god, an imposter, MrLlama has been abducted! :(
I still have my original CD from 20 years ago, I love playing it from time to time, just like you said it's a completely different game.
I have like 10 because young me had to buy a new battle chest every time I lost my CD key lol
Wooo classic Diablo2. I remember my 1.0 sorceress... That was so fun to play.
Lots of investment in "Warmth" (I think I was maxxed) and Used a crossbow of somekind, one the fast ones.
My friend really loved the Necromancer with shitton of skellies and his blood golem, with that poison dagger skill or something.
He would create a huge mob and then I'd explode them with the Orb. Fun times. Man that brings me back.
Getting that manaleech early on must have felt so good, haha. And yes Classic Whirlwind was one of the best feeling skills ever. Flamespike was removed because hardcore characters kept dying to him while loading the area and the amplify+fire enchant being so strong. They should have just moved the pack further away from the waypoint in my opinion.
I remember playing this version back in the late 90s. Still loved it. I was resistant to the changes in the later patches, and I didn't want to get the expansion. I did though, and loved it!
For anyone interested in playing v1.0 (or any other version of D2) - You can easily switch between all versions of D2 using Cactus by fearedbliss ... if you have any experience installing any mods it should be easy to do!
github.com/fearedbliss/Cactus
ua-cam.com/video/j7gyc6jp644/v-deo.html
In short - Cactus allows you to easily switch between versions on the fly using only 1 installation of D2 - each version's save files are isolated and are safe when switching versions. Also includes Singling features - which greatly improve the performance of the game + other QoL features.
Amazing tool for those wanting to experience previous versions of D2 without the pain of installing each version individually.
Works like a charm! Thanks! A lot easier than anything I've tried before. And Ohhhh!!! That Singling, making it super fast to make TCP/IP games. That's very nice for rushing, muling and buffing and stuff. I suppose that ATMA works with most versions? Maybe? Sort of? I never did like ATMA much for its bugs with items corrupting files like Hsarus boots and SoJs though.
Thanks captain!
The potion issue is why the Barb skill "Find Potion" was implemented in the game.
I remember playing this version on a very old pc, every time a "ghost" appeared, the game crashed, I was able to play up to Mephisto by circumventing Archane with a trainer (I don't know how I did this with very little knowledge of english), as soon as I got to Mephisto, it crashed again. Lovely and sad times indeed
I remeber this 1.0 well.. I played barb as well as a kid. I recall inviting my friend when I was about to finally kill duriel on normal. My bud was there only to have his fingers on 1-4 hotkeys for potions to heal me while I was focused on killing duriel. It was such a grind back then.. But finally entering kurast for the first time ever (not knowing what to expect cause there was no internet) seemd so special and satisfying. Insane
Old diablo 2 is coming back. I play it everyday mang on windows XP.
Wow! Im just about to watch this! So fun!!! I just have one question regarding this video: as a streamer, do you often get the same questions over and over again?
I bet this is one of those questions. But I'm sure that's the idea😉 omega lol
haha dude I wish you played diablo this way half the time at least. I'd love to see how you progress each character. Seems like the hardest version/ most rewarding like Dark Souls. Much better than the mods in my opinion. No crazy items that don't make sense. No screens full of explosions and not knowing whats going on just farming loot. You killed it with this idea
This is the way I played the game when it was new, and then it is how I was playing D2R and I was like, dang this D2R is easy and I get so much gold! also, watching you fight the smith reminds me of why I barely made it into the middle of Act 2 back in the day...
Spend so much playing that game, my whole family beat it! What I do remember the most were the awful drop rates on everything, if you didnt gamble you might have gone through 4 acts finding 1 yellow and 1 gold item at average. With no mana pots , every character had to be somewhat competent in melee and had decent defense, doing quests was vital cause all the rewards mattered so much more. Still quality of life coming from LoD and later patches opened up the game for way more playstyles and experimenting so that version is the absolute king over nostalgic feelings :D
Nice picture; the only man more horrifying than the Diablo 1 Butcher.
@@Momohhhhhh Its all about the meat! :D
1.0 was so weird. I imagine it's because a lot of the files were lost almost at the time the game was released, so this was the best they can replicate the game in a short time frame.
I'd love to see a lagromancer lol, have 20+ skeles and like 20+ revives is hilarious
Those skellies sure have changed as well. I have just tried Cactus out and you don't only get an extra skellie with every skill level, but they're horrible! They start out with like 21 life and 1-2 damage and only gain life and damage from the mastery and their pathing is awful, attackspeed is awful and they get lost and poof out of existence when they're too far behind or just in town and for no reason other than that they seem to have a timer and all that jazz XD And good luck getting an army up in act4 or resummoning after you've run out of mana :p
@@stylis666 just needed some mana leech as 1.0 leech was busted for getting mana, and ya skeles were kinda bad but the worst part was having like 22 skeles which lagged so much it would dc you in areas like CS lol..
People saying skellies in chaos are worthless when they are actually still useful for the iron maiden spell, you just have to constantly raise them, but say goodbye to them when diablo makes fire nova, even in higher raise and mastery levels.
A long time ago, items of remedy used to reduce poison duration. By 25% each. That was listed in the description. Perhaps those would’ve made fighting Andariel easy.
I did not note if you’d socketed rubies in your weapons.
Given how hard the Smith was, you’d expect Andariel to be about 3x worse...
No frickin’ wonder the game took so long when it came out for me!! Nice to know I wasn’t as a bad a player as I thought!
i remember this. its crazy. it all flooded back when I saw the title screen. and where you pick your character. crazy
my top number 1 game in my life i hope i see a remaster before i die
This was such a throw back. Thank you for playing this again
Vendor: Boots with Fast run walk.
MrLlamaSC: How fast are they?
Vendor: Yes.
Now do you remember why we used to kill EVERYTHING? Lol
And I remember when the potions at vendors changed. I panicked thinking you could only buy one of each.
YES llama, this is what we want
Fresh idea can't wait to watch. Enjoying the new varied content
*fast boots*
Llama: *wheeze*
You get so excited to get normal items to fill a slot at all haha This was your most entertaining content yet. I hate how now you can throw everything away and don't have to pick up gold cause every item is worth a fortune. In real life you'd always pick up gold pieces off the floor and in real life there aren't magic items under every rock or in every box you open. Just a much more legit feeling even as a viewer. I could just imagine getting all the best items in this version feeling so rewarding
This is what i remember as one of the first ever pc games i ever played back in 2000 when my dad suddenly came home and told me and my brother he had bought us a computer for use
45:00 Hahahaha! YES! The paint dry troll to Botez was so funny.
i love this content! reminiscing diablo 2 old version/patch. Watching atm!
Holy shit. I had forgotten about the differences a lot
Back when devs weren't afraid to make things hard af
Everyone acting like THIS is the wierd version... to me, this is how i always played diablo 2 :S
Amen! This is what Diablo 2 was initially about. Hard and every detail counted. Still remember like Sorc fight screwed as no mana. Or OP Necro suddently unplayable... :D
Also, whan I start new char I still have this kind of deep inner reflex with Dark Spearwoman = death :)
This episode brought to you by "Oh my god..." and "This is insane"
Also, "Dude, look at the purple monsters, they're so cool."
You have to remember that gold was intended to be the main currency so it makes sense that it was so much harder to come by.
You were right about the adding the probabilities for rolls.
If you have a 6 sided die and you want to know the probability of rolling either a 3 or a 6 its 1/3 or 1/6+1/6. If you want to know the probability of rolling a 3 and then a 6 its 1/6*1/6=1/36.
In the case you were talking about you wanted one OR the other, so the probabilities add.
Still unsure if I like that they took our Iron Maiden in the chaos sanctuary. That made it much more scary, like A5 souls and A3 dolls.
I’ll refer to this dilemma as Schrodinger’s Maiden
Paladin was actually quite strong, because you pick War Hammer with knockback, equip Charge and Holy Freeze and then beat the crap out of everyone, because Charge had no attack rating, it always hit. With Barb, leap attack (lvl 18 skill) had no attack rating, so most people run one of the giant weapons (usually polearm) with leap attack for main and whirlwind for right click. WW was also lot stronger then in LOD (later patches, it was still pretty good in 1.7-1.09).
OMG Epic! I used to play it on my Pentium3 800Mhz with 3dfx Voodoo3
yeah that was op i didnt have so strong computer, but my friend who showed me D2 had the same as you. I had an AMD-k6 II with 300 Mhz, it was awfully slow when we played LAN but still was very much fun!
i love how if LLama had been a normal diablo player playing this, hed still be in stony field in his 5th hour. but since hes a far above average player he can move far beyond. with things like "you think ill be level 30 by the time i get to diablo" well yes...that was the point back then...when this first came out...you might have been close to 40 by the time you cleared chaos enough to fight the big man
This has been my favorite video. Kinda wished they'd kept this playstyle when they implemented the QoL improvements.
Oh boy original diablo 2 looked very weird. I'm just starting the video, so best of luck on the run mr llama!
Palladin zeal skill was awesome in those patches. Lvl 20 = 20 swings :D
Thank you sir, this is really something I love to see.
The people are spoken and we are happy with your return to the ways of our childhoods
OG d2 LoD would be good too. Like 1.07? Or whatever the first one was
Doing a Barb is an easy way out, try to do a god damn Sorc without mana potions from vendors! :D
Iron Maiden in chaos sanctuary, good luck with hard core baba 👍
no
The fact that he doesn't know what that magic tab is for is vaguely amusing.
Llama, please do a 1.0 necro run? As a necro/assa player, I've always enjoyed your runs! Plus, it's going to be an interesting challenge - I like d2 1.0 because the player can't rely on rune recipes or respec. Overall it makes you achieve more with less. Which is cool in it's own way.
Running 1.0 on a modern machine should be much easier if you spin up a Virtualbox VM and install an old copy of XP or 2000. I doubt Win 7 would cooperate, but still, it's an option.
I remember how happy I was when I found my first good rare lance for my barb... and how absolutely painfully slow a spear barb was at leveling to 30. You exclusively attacked single targets and all you could reasonably do to improve your damage was to increase your mastery because there was no such thing as synergies or respecs.
Looking at the HC ladders for the melee characters compared to the casters was quite amusing as well, since all of the melee characters died *way* earlier because of iron maiden. And yes. pretty much *exclusively* because of iron maiden. If people would still play it today, I'd suggest leveling a necro up and join a game to kill Diablo and watch what happens when you cast iron maiden on the enemies when there's melee characters attacking the enemies.
But hey, at least the necro's blood golem was borderline immortal when dealing with melee enemies if you used iron maiden. Duriel was *never* easier than with a blood golem and iron maiden. Getting to level 18 in act 2 on the other hand was quite a challenge back then.
But hey, this is just how I remember things.
Mr llama needs the singling mod! Easy switching between versions.
He also badly needs to play 1.05. This is legit the purest Diablo 2 experience :)
I know why you chose the barb, but I really wanted to see the Sorc without mana potions, as it was originally intended, bc after mana the sorc became soooo op. Just my sadistic contribution 😂 Love your streams btw, I don't watch streamers but you're entertaining and so chill
haha this is actually the version i played when i was a kid and thought the game frustratingly hard.
Amazing content. I wish you do some other old patch content some day. Like 1.08 LoD would be interesting also.
In 2000 I started D2 in single player in 1.00. I played at least a 70 level Necro, 66 level sorc 75 or so level Barb.
Leveling up after 70 was really slow because no other players in the game to increase the exp gains, so basically after 75 or at the latest at 80 you really don't get much exp at all in single player game and it doesn't make much sense to continue. Also the monsters drop very little loot and they are kinda too easy in single player when you get better items.
Then at the end of 2000 I got some decent internet connection and used school PC's to play also .. so I jumped to Battle.net play at around 1.04 or 1.05. The game really changes with multiple players in the game and those later patches of Classic. So yeah I recommend trying 1.05. It has some the quirks of this 1.00 version but a lot of stuff fixed. Like the single items in vendors etc.
There is a mod that you can copy to D2 folder to run multiple clients.. thats how I get multiple players in a TCP/IP game which makes the experience a lot different.
Recently I've started to play 1.06 in single player but TCP/IP game with 5-6 client in game. Even streaming to twich for some archive material. Probably should upload to here to keep it :)
Currently in Act4 normal with paladin and barb. Need to get 5 chars to NM at the same time to get 5 players there also :)
This is so fun and hilarious. I feel like this is the way the game should be though. Having to use everything that drops. Not having infinite amounts of anything. Having to kill every monster to beat the game. That's Diablo 1 as well in a nut shell also
lmao^
Diablo 1 was the first game I ever played. I was born in 1995. Diablo 2 came not too long after I got done with that. I always wondered why Diablo was so different when I got older
Now that smith was a real boss fight!!!
Omggggg. I just found my Diablo 2 and LoD disks. I CAN PLAY THIS VERSION!!!!!
This run was such a throwback, but real talk: Bring back purple monsters!!! 16:11
This brings back all the fond memories. The game version is horrible, but we loved it!
dont forget this was modeled after Diablo 1 and simply did a massive overhaul of the entire system basis
Have to be in a mood for crunchy peanut butter... but thats sooooo damn rare.
Oh you mentioned how slow EverQuest is.... Check out Project 1999 Blue & Green Servers. All the classic race/class penalties, and all the grind!