@@GadgetryTech would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also you say they sound like a theater sub woofer bass? im in to that to as well if so.
Love how in depth your reviews go. I have been debating on either these or the h6pro. I would love to see a deep dive video on these and epos h6pro. And what is better overall. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anybody do a comparison of these two headsets alone. They're always paired in with other headsets as well. Really just want to know what's the best between these.
Dear Gadgetry Tech..... I found your channel after looking at other channels that review headsets As always you are now my go to favourite channel for headsets reviews as I dont get as much insight from other reviews as you. I like the way you present your products you review and you give such an Informative In depth and honest review. Thank you so much keep up the good work great job. Like and subscribed.
Great review! You're one of the few UA-camrs I fully trust when it comes to audio as our taste in mix seems to align..I LOVE bass in my headphones, and most come out weak or just a flat EQ on that front. One question, how was the volume on PS5 for you? I find it can be a mixed bag depending on the headset..some are decently loud, some aren't. Currently using Penrose and Turtle Beach 700 Gen 2 Max and they're both good but TBs don't get as loud as I'd like at times, while Penrose are loud but can get very harsh like you were saying...Anyways, thanks in advance!
Thanks so much Asa! The headset is amazing on PS5. The controller has some decent juice to it, so it will definitely get loud. Louder than the 700 G2. It may not seem as "loud" as the Penrose, but that's because some of the overly bright harshness is no longer there. The overall dB is still up there though. If you ever need more, just add the HEL2 and you'll be blown away.
Awesome review as always, Joe. This headset looks so nice and premium. I love the style and no needless RGB. As you've probably seen me mention a million times in the comments, I currently use the PC38X, but I'm always curious what else is out there. Like, what is the next step up. When you mentioned Warzone my ears perked up because that is the game I play most online. Plus its great that they're so good for movie watching. I think I need to get a pair just to try them out for myself.
I meant to add to this, but I've been super busy lately. The PC38X is an open back and really shines on games like Warzone. The Model One sound is very different and will take some getting used to. If you get the Model One, play a few nights straight with it, without switching models. Then form some conclusions from there. I found once I adjusted for they way they deliver sound, the Model One is very natural sounding and feels like a special headset.
@@GadgetryTech Thanks. I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet but probably will soon. I think in your review you said the audio mix in Warzone wasn't the greatest. Yeah, that's the understatement of all time. I don't know why it's so hard for them to pull down all the ambient sound effects and boost the things you actually need to be able to hear.
Great review! And thank you for it! When you were in contact with the VZR guys, did you get more specific information about their custom made dynamic drivers - what components used and what materials they are made of etc?
the Pinna thing really helped me understand why i preferred my LS10x soundstage to LS50x, i think. the headband doesnt perfectly fit my big ass head so in game everything sounded super close. so em ,i'll give you a $100 for these 😁😁
LOL! Never! I'm glad you found it helpful! This headset created a lot more discussion on the science of sound so I hope at least some people benefit from that part. I'm glad it helped you :).
Hey Joe, you’ve basically become my go-to for the most trusted reviews. I’ve purchased 2 headsets solely because of you and haven’t regretted my decisions. That being said, I love my H6pro’s (closed), would the Model 1’s be a step up? I play mostly Fortnite (lmao) and COD. My biggest reservation to pulling the trigger is wondering if these are 2x as good as the H6pros since they’re 2.5x the price 😅
I just got these yesterday, having found artificial positional audio not translating well to my ears. Put these bad boys on... DAMN. The positional awareness is ridiculously pin-point levels of accurate. They also feel lighter than they are. As the earpads "burn-in" and adapt to your surrounding ear area, the fit gets even better. Absolute blast listening to high fidelity music and going back into RP and FPS games to pull out the difference in detail and immersion.
Good review. To me, the corsairs blow this mic away. This one has too much of that higher pitch hollowness that so many headset brands have. The funny thing is that the mic in the cord is so much better than the included headset mic. It's too bad that the headset went massively just for sound and put the mic as maybe B grade. Why we can't get a superb sound with superb headset is beyond me.
In case it helps, they have since upgraded the mic and even the cable to better handle impedance matching of the new mic setup. You have to remember this is their first production product and it’s called the model one. Slow evolution but it’s already at a great starting point. Corsair mics are top notch!
I have tried a few headphones trying to find the best positional audio for gaming, specifically CoD. I will be pulling the trigger on these soon primarily based on this review, can’t wait to get my hands on them. I’m curious if you have played MW2 on these, if so how is the vertical audio positioning? I’m finding it very hard to judge if someone is above or below in MW2.
So i’ve played a few matches and used it for about a day now and let me start by saying this is probably just one of the best soundstages i’ve heard in headphones period. In MW2 you can close your eyes and pin point exactly where shots/footsteps are. highly recommend these. I’m also pairing it with a Schiit fulla gaming dac.
I reached out to them regarding your comment. They said to contact them via email if you are really interested and they can see what's possible! Let them know I sent you over if you reach out. info@vzraudio.com
I’ve recently found your channel and have listened to several reviews now. You’re definitely the most thoughtful of the reviewers I’ve watched. Maybe you can help me out with headset decisions for PS5. I’ve been using the Penrose headset for a while and while I like the sound quality it disconnects often, has buggy sounds and is super tight and uncomfortable. I’ve had several other expensive headsets I’ve liked but I don’t want to go back on the sound quality. I’m looking for the best sounding full wireless option I can find primarily for PS5. I love when sounds stay super crisp and detailed even at high volumes and love wide and open spatial/directional sound stages specifically for gaming. I’ve got plenty of quality options for music/movies already so not concerned about that. Maybe the MG20s? What do you think? And thanks ahead for your time.
I also have the Audeze Penrose and faced the very same issues you mentioned. Regarding the comfort (or lack of), I’ve replaced the cushions by the Wicked Cushions, the difference is insane. On the connection, I’ve plugged a USB extension on the PS5, and I always try to disconnect other Bluetooth devices, as silly as it sounds, it worked. Steelseries just released a new “steelseries arctis nova pro wireless”, I’m curious about how good this headset is, watching videos and reading reviews :) Stay safe.
I’ve been using cloud 2 wireless for quite some time, it’s not Penrose audio quality but still very clear with great connection range and battery life, and its way more comfortable than the Penrose.
@@GadgetryTech would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also you say they sound like a theater sub woofer bass? im in to that to as well if so.
Nice detailed review, Joe. Looks like a nice headset. You might remember me from the Stealth 700 Gen 2 Max review. I ended up having to return them due to connection problems. Don't know if i got a dud pair or not. I've ended up ordering the Arctis Pro Nova Wireless today instead of them. Hopefully i'll be impressed.
I definitely remember you Gareth! I usually respond/keep up with all the messages well but I’m moving to the new house in a few weeks so these past few weeks have been crazy. I too ordered an Arctis Pro Nova as well! My 700 G2 still works fine even now, but I’ve shifted to focusing on each headset I’m reviewing so I haven’t done more than 50 hours in the 700 G2 Max. When I used it with the extension cord it was fine though. Hopefully you and I both enjoy the Nova for a wireless headset though haha. Good luck man!
Phenomenal review as always! I actually just ordered these to compare to the HifiMan HE-R9 and send the one I like less back. I'd love to see you do a review in those just ti see what you think. This sounds a lot like my experience from the HE-R9.
@@wrecklessKane I ended up sending both back and getting another pair of Penrose. HE-R9 probably would have won the battle for me between the two though. ONLY because I'm not a fan kf the super warm sound signature of the VZR.
I know this is an older review, but hopefully someone comes in here and replies to me. I'm looking for a new pair of headphones. Primarily for gaming, but I'm also a programmer by day and listen to music on my computer while coding, so I'd like to have as good of a music experience as possible. I'm heavily considering getting this headset, because it's so good for gaming, but I'm also heavily considering the DT 700 Pro X, however there is almost ZERO information on the DT 700 for gaming and absolutely no information comapring the two headphone/headset. Based on the analitical charts from RTINGS on the DT 700, they have an okay soundstage, but fantastic imaging that rivals the PC38x, and from everything I hear the VZR is about the same as the PC38x if not better in both those categories, so that would tell me the DT700 would rival the VZR in imaging but slightly lack in soundstage for gaming. But the DT700 has better highs and mid accuracy, as I've heard that one of the downsides to the VZR. Has anyone used both these headphones, or can point me towards someone who has? Note: I need a closed back as my wife works and games in the same room, don't want to spend more than $350 and don't need a mic as I have a studio mic for my work that I use.
Buy them both and send the ones you don’t want back. I just got the VZR and Incan say that they are the best I’ve heard. The build quality is also incredible. Beyer’s are going to have a sharper EQ. If you don’t mind that, then give them a shot. I’ve heard a lot of people say that beyer’s are not the best for gaming.
I ordered a pair of these and Michel has personally emailed me 6 times making sure everything is good. Also, they now have a longer mic and a new cable that boosts the signal for Xbox FYI. I'm sure a quick email will get a replacement sent right out
I got the longer mic but what’s this cable you speak of? Even with the new mic I still have to have it practically in my mouth for it to pick up my voice on xbox. Does the cable help anymore with that?
I reached out to them regarding your comment. They said to contact them via email if you are really interested and they can see what's possible! info@vzraudio.com
Just ordered these. Thanks for the great and detailed review. Do these need a DAC/AMP combo to get the most of these cans? I dont know much about DAC/AMPs, Ive always just plugged my headsets straight into the PC. Thanks in advance if you reply!
Thanks! They definitely do not need an amp to run, as they are very efficient. Having said that, when I paired them with the Schiit HEL2 and made a couple tweaks to the EQ for my liking, they blew me away.
@@GadgetryTech Thank you for replying and giving me special attention. You've earned yourself another subscriber just for that. My currently broken HyperX Orbit S (Sister-Product to the Audeze Mobius) were my first pair of mid-range headphones, it uses the same planar drivers as the Mobius. I really liked the sound signature and clarity of it for gaming/movies/music; hoping these won't disappoint me as I believe I'm moving from a brighter headphone to a warmer one. I always leave EQ flat and as neutral as possible. I'm still not sure if spending the extra $200 for the HEL2 will be worth the money for someone like me. Any thoughts on the value proposition?
very very full review ! Quick question, for around 350 is there a better sounding headset wihtout a mic ? You might have said it in the video but it's possible i missed it. Again, very good and full review ! thanks :))
Thank you! For a closed back with the sound profile I described, there really isn't much to consider at this price point in my opinion. Perhaps the 6XX or Sundara if you want open back, but at that point if you want an open back I would just get the Hifiman Edition XS. So in short, the Model One for closed back, or spend a little extra for the Edition XS. Both are pretty much top of the game at $500 and under.
I currently use GSp600. I like these alot, love the design. But I find them I little heavy on the head after a while. Also find sound stage a bit too closed in. Feels like there punishing you after a while! So wanting to improve on identifying positions and letting ears and head off the hook a little. You have definitely sold me on giving these a try. I'm big into hifi but have kept separate headphones between the two. That said I'm interested to try these for my music. Cheers 👍
Definitely picking these up, They sound like an amazing headset, Been looking for something to replace my Hyper X Orbit S. They were great but I hear weird buzzing and popping noise from them every once in a while, and they started becoming really uncomfortable. Couldn't you also connect these to a game dac and still be able to adjust the volume that way?
@GadgetryTech Best Wired gaming headset for a 500$ budget please? Please give an open-back and closed-back option. I think many of us don't understand the difference between open and closed back, you should make a video about it. Most reviews are on closed back and most of us play in our room so we don't have to use closed back.
Thank you for your review, I got the penrose and before I bought it , I have watched many of the viewers on UA-cam , you are the one who commented with truth and tell the fact . Most of them just say very good, nice , ba ba ba and they don’t mention the disconnection problem, I admit that penrose offer clear and excellent sound , I played pubg a lot, penrose give me clear directional foot steps , that is nice . However , don’t you think that it is fatal for a headset which disconnect very often if you play competitive online games? If you are gamer , you know what I am talking about . Turtle beach 700 gen 2 also got the same problem , wireless may not be the right direction. So I am searching for the wired one. I got Xbox series x, I realised that the mic of M1 works not good on Xbox? But what I most concern is the sound quality and no latency. May I ask when you are wearing m1, can you hear the environmental sound . Eg. A baby crying in the room next to you , thank you very much
The M1 blocks off more noise around you than any passive headset/headphone I've ever tried. The passive noise isolation is insanely good. If you DO want to hear background/environment noise, I strongly recommend the EPOS H6PRO Open Acoustic, or the Drop PC38X. Both are great gaming headphones for the money as well.
I bought these but just wish I could get a little bit louder volume at times. I love them with music (vocals are a bit low) but love how it really brings out all the other instruments. On Xbox, the issue is definitely with the mic, nobody can ever hear me. I'm on the fence with returning them because I play mostly FPS's on Xbox and the mic not working well is a major bummer. Wish there was a way to get a better mic or raise the mic chat volume.
Yeah the challenge is definitely the mic sensitivity on Xbox right now. If you play on Warzone you can boost your mic volume in game which helps a lot. Set it to 300-400 and it helps to address that issue. I can look into other games when I can too but that was my workaround for now. I still need to test other DACs more to see if the Mixamp Pro or Arctis DAC boosts the mic enough as well
have you heard any fix for this issue on there end or Microsofts end? I wanna try the headset but if the mic isn't good for party chat I'll have to pass which sucks I really wanna try them out.
Yea I got mine today and it’s sounds like I’m listening with water in my ears. I’m thinking that there’s just too much base. I really don’t wanna say it’s the fault of the headset. I’m getting an Astro mix amp for it so hopefully that’ll help as it won’t be connected through a wireless controller. But idk it just doesn’t sound natural to me.
@@jonasjackson9215 you can definitely adjust the level of bass if you want. It doesn’t fix it but after a while the drivers either got broken in ,meaning they work as they were intended, or I just got used to them. Other than that, the directional audio is second to none for gaming headphones and the clarity is unmatched somehow.
@gadgetryTech - Thank you for the review, great channel. Ordered the VZR headset however just wondering Dac wise, would you still say the Schiit Hel 2 is the way to go or would the DX3 Pro+ DAC/Amp be a good option? I think you said the Schiit Hel is more warmer in tone over DX3 being more natural?
@@o_J_A_R_O_o I ordered my VZR model one back in January 17th and still haven't got it in Aus yet. Just logged ticket with VZR support since post has no idea. :( I'm going to use Goxlr mini for now but either get the DX3 Pro+ or SMSL DL200 at this stage. I think the SMSL DL200 could be slightly better but not sure it's as well built as the DX3 Pro+ I haven't heard what these dac etc will sound like either so one could be better depending on your taste. At least the DL 200 has a filter pass change unlike the DX3 Pro+
Thank you for your quick reply and sorry to hear you're having issues with your purchase. I've been also looking at the MX3S, that I just watched a review on in comparison to the DX3 Pro+.I was going to go with the DX3 Pro+ initially, but I feel like the more reviews I watch, the more indecisive I get lol
@@o_J_A_R_O_o To be honest you can't go wrong here.. I was also looking at MX3S as while it mightn't power higher end headphones.. I get a lot of options and base and treble change could be a life saver for the VZR model one.. while can be done with software, I like having one unit to do this.
mine have a weird echo? when voices come through the game it picks them up onto disxord even when i have the mute switch on? any idea . when it’s muted it won’t pick me up but the voices in game will be???
Hi Joe.many thanks for the penrose and m1 answer. I've had my ps5 for just over a year. since then I've bought a lot of headsets.Thought you might find this interesting.First of Sony 3d pulse. Yes they sound terrable. Second was steel series arctic pro, good sound but lacking base.changed eq setting and it made things worse.then the recon 500.great headet, but the high end was lacking in detail for me.Razer shark v2 pro was lacking in volume, when plugged into controller.barracud x.i just did not like.stealth 600 gen 2.was great, wish I still had it, traded it in for the 700 gen 2, they sounded better but I found the imaging was not as good as the 600.and last the cloud flights.exchanged for my cloud core wireless,which have much better sound, .I wish i hadn't bought my h6 pros, the m1 imaging sounds much better. I have become a bit of an audiophile maniac, always on the lookout for newer better sounds.sorry for long description.many thanks.take care.
[my preconceived issues: 1. Closed back small soundstage; 2. Drivers (plastic lens); 3. Hot AF Earpads.] .. Now I'm watching the video: My observation was in your 3-hour Call of Duty gameplay. I didn't notice you using this headset once...
Hi Joe.many thanks for a great review, I have three headsets.the h6 pro closed back, cloud core wireless, and audeze penrose.each are unique in there own way in sound presentation. Would the model one have better sound imaging than the penrose.All my gameing is done on ps5.many thanks, keep up the great work.
Hi Jason. That's quite an awesome collection there! The Model One is a very different listening experience. You will need to play a few hours straight on it before jumping to any conclusions. With that being said, these are not nearly as forward sounding as the Penrose. They will immediately sound more laid back, but with more bass. With Penrose, the details are sharp and a bit bright in some audio mixes. In many cases I found I had to turn the volume down on the Penrose to help cope with ear fatigue. That's not the case with the Model One. On the M1, you can have a higher volume threshold, allowing everything to sound "full" and "rich", without hurting positional accuracy. On that note - the imaging of these is about as good as any closed back can get, even as you approach $1000 headphone pairs. It's just a different level. Plus, the comfort of these is a night and day improvement over the Penrose. I like the Penrose in certain applications don't get me wrong, I'd just rather play on the M1 all day. Hope that helps!
@@GadgetryTech How's the overall max volume on PS5? 32ohms is not much power so it should be loud enough I assume. I'm still rocking Senny's GSP 370 and I love them.
So I guess as far as closed back these are probably the best soundstage and imaging you can get in the price range? I'm looking at either this or the DT 1770 I think.
hi joe i am lookin for a wired headset with good imaging and spacial audio especially for fps like tarkov.....i ve been researchin a long time now and i want an closed back one so i watched the steelseries arctis nova pro and vzr model one reviews of you....btw you do such a great job your vids are awesome man......i cant decide which headset i should take.....so the question is do you recommend the mode one or the nova to me? or do you know any better pick for closed back wired. i dont really ned the dac but its nice to have....thank you in advance
Hello! New subscriber here. Awesome review and you are my new go-to UA-camr for headsets after watching most of your reviews. You deserve more subscribers! I am going to purchase this headset after your review, but It doesn't seem like they have worldwide shipping. At least not to Norway where I am from. Do you know if they are planning on expanding their shipping? Also what are the main difference between the Schiit Fulla and Schiit Hel? Why did you pair the headset with the Schiit Hel for example?
Hi! The HEL2 has a better mic preamp and more power. Because of that I recommend it with the Model One so you can benefit more from it. I was told to reach out to them via email mail about international queries. I believe it’s info@vzraudio.com. Tell them you came from GadgetryTech and they’ll see what they can do! Best of luck
@@GadgetryTech Thanks for replying :) I emailed them and mentioned that I watched your review of the Model One and want to purchase it. They will hopefully get worldwide shipping going this fall/winter. Guess we will have to wait.
Amazing vid...I recently purchased the audeze Penrose and primarily use them on PS5 but I am getting constant popping unless I use the jack... Because of that I'll be returning them... I thought the Penrose sounded great but was wondering if these are comparable/better?
Got my set. Thank you again for your review and advice. Have you done a Sonar profile for this headset on MW2? Could you perhaps share your findings with us? Best regards.
Currently I use Epos H3pro Hyrbid and I do really like them, but am considering swapping to this headset, but I lack a DAC to use this headset with on PC. Would you say this headset is worth it without a DAC and just plugging it right into a motherboard? Wireless means nothing to me, and I am okay with the price increase. I also do not care for the Bluetooth.
I just purchased these. Can you recommend a dac/amp please to pair with these the Hel+ is sold out everywhere. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated. Great video with so much info. Thank you.
@GadgetryTech How would these be best configured with the Sound blasterx G6 Amp/Dac? I'm thinking of purchasing the VZR Model One headset and this is the amp/dac I currently have. Would I run it in stereo mode with all the added features in the Creative sound blaster software disabled? Also, when configured in Windows sound, am I supposed to have the "enable audio enhancements" checked or unchecked? Love your channel and hoping you respond to this!
Hard part is they couldn't be more different aside from having two speakers and a mic! With the Nova Pro, the sound is brighter and more focused on treble detail. On the Model One, a lot of focus was placed on properly emphasizing bass response to help with immersion. The Nova Pro is loaded with features, possibly more than any wireless gaming headset ever made. Part of what you're paying for is going towards that. The Model One is pure analog. All the money you spend is going into the build quality, comfort (long term comfort is amazing), imaging, and sound stage. They will seem a lot more laid back sounding when you do an A/B test. If you use the Model One for a week+ without switching, you will get used to the sound and benefit from pin point accuracy when gaming. If you are gaming on PS5 with a controller, or on PC and have a decent enough headphone amp with mic support (the Schiit Hel 2 for example), the Model One is top notch. It really matters what's most important to you and if the draw backs of either model sway you towards one or the other. The Nova has been great and I really do enjoy them. I find sound tuning to be easier to deal with for long long sessions on the Model One (movies are unworldly good!), and I know it will last for years and years.
@@GadgetryTech How about if it was strictly for FPS footsteps and environmental awareness sound stage? I ordered the Nova Pro but I might return them for this set because this review kinda sounds like you rank them as 1 of the best for what I'm specifically looking for mentioned above.
If you are talking about passive noise isolation from the room noise via the ear cups themselves, it's honestly shocking how quiet these ear cups/pads are. This is the first headset where I need to take the headset off sometimes to hear what people are saying in the house even if I have nothing playing. Considering the H6PRO closed back uses a hybrid pad, the noise isolation is still excellent. Honestly for under $200 they are top notch. The open back variant doesn't really block anything out of course, by nature of design. The VZR Model One is just a bit beyond what essentially every gaming headset I've heard does with terms of noise isolation. It was the first thing I noticed when I put them on, and it was shocking.
Will these be good with the astro mixamp pro tr? Or will the mixamp hurt the headphones? I use an Xbox Series X with the sound settings at stereo uncompressed
I mainly play competitive FPS games but also use my headset for general use like UA-cam, movies and shows. I’m currently looking between the Audeze Penrose X and the VZRs. Would you recommend one completely over the other or are they comparable enough that it’s safe to get either one?
Penrose has a better measured frequency response, and the mid range is sublime. The VZRs have a strong bass emphasis which some people do not like. You can pull that bass down in software though, and still get something great. The VZR is much, much more comfortable than a Penrose, and it's built like a tank.
If I lost my VZR Model One headset cable, along with the 3.5 Jack, can I replace them with headset cables made by another company? I don’t care about the mic/mute function since I don’t use the mic anyway. Thanks.
Thanks for this great insight on these headphones. I am very interested in these headphones as I am currently looking for new headphones for my PS5 anyway. Do you know if they plan on shipping international as well? I'm from Germany and currently I can't find a solution to get this headphones, because its only available in US actually. Best thanks
what DAC would be a good choice to use with the VZR that I ordered, they will be connected to GOXLR on PC ? I have a Shure microphone connected to GOXLR. I currently have Astro DAC but was thinking of going with SteelSeries GameDAC Gen 2 and use steelseries software.
I've been considering getting a different headset. Currently I'm using an Astro A50 on PC. I mostly play warzone. If I were to get these would I need to figure in a DAC or Amp of some kind into my budget? I really enjoy your reviews.
You definitely do not need a dac on console. It plugs directly into the controller and uses the Dolby Atmos app on the xbox and I have the penrose and nova pro and I don't even really want to use them much because this headset is so nice. I turned the bass down a little in the app.
@gadgetrytech Have you done any eq on these yet? I feel some times on warzone there is to much bass and some times the sounds around you overwhelm the foot steps. currently im using headphone bass setting currently but have tried headphone setting too. Any help would be appreciated. I use this headset for fps gaming.
I have the Corsair Virtuoso SE and love them, today I ordered the Audeze Maxwell wireless but am worried that I should have gotten these, I have the Wave XLR that I could plug them into. I really do like wireless since owning the Virtuoso, but if the audio is really that much better I would be willing to go back to wired. I only play on PC, but watch movies and listen to music on PC too. Do you think I should have gotten these instead of the Maxwell?
How you like your Maxwells? Tbh the VZR Model One was a disappointment to me. So many good reviews and I really tried to like this headset, but the bass overpowering, sounded muddy, and seemed to clutter up into the lows and mids. I love bass and it was one of the reasons i loved the Mobius so much, but these didn't have the clarity and punch I was looking for. It's a very rumbly and thundery bass rather than punchy, tight, clean, and clear. The wires also get coiled/tangled up really bad and the mic quality is very subpar for a 350$ headset. The Model One is very comfortable with great build quality and the positional audio is pretty good. When it comes to FPS these are really good at pinpointing footsteps, but for music listening and overall sound quality i was disappointed. I wish I would have tried them through a DAC and tried to EQ them better before I returned them as I feel it could've made all the difference. I want to try out the Maxwell as I previously had the Audeze Mobius and loved it. I've tried about 10 different headphones/gaming headsets and the mobius is the only one that has impressed me so far. The sound quality on the Mobius is truly incredible and I was hoping that the Model One or the Maxwell could live up to it. The virtuoso is also one of the headsets i tried. The features and mic quality are really nice, but it wasn't very comfortable and the sound quality was pretty mid for a 250$ headset. So all that said, I wish I would've gotten the Maxwell instead of these lol. How would you rate the Maxwell on sound quality, and compare them to other headsets you've tried?
The only reason that I am trying to upgrade is because I have one through five pairs of Astro a 40s. They always seem to break but they still have amazing audio. All I’m trying to get out of the vzr line is a louder, clear, more accurate version of the Astro a 40s like putting them on steroids and from what I heard from reviews that’s what these were capable of I have spent almost 20 hours troubleshooting but the mic will not pick up in the audio will not clear and I’m wondering if it’s a mix amp needed or a dac amp needed but everybody said that these were amazing out the box. I couldn’t even get that with loads of equalization added I couldn’t even get that connected to a mix amp somebody in the comet has the answers to my problem, so somebody please help because I want to experience what everybody has that own these and are happy with them.
Do you have a good sidetone/mic monitoring solution with these? The Schiit Hel 2 doesn't do it with zero latency, right? I want something higher end than my Astro Mixamp TR for this purpose with these headphones. I'm trying out the Soundblaster GC7, but the mic volume on max is too low for both sidetone and others on Discord unless I turn on AGC in the windows sound properties. Then the mic is extremely noisy (EMI) compared to another pair of headphones with a V-Moda Boompro, an analog Modmic Uni/Modmic 5 with shielded cable, or well-shielded/grounded headsets like the Beyerdynamic MMX 300.
I'm Looking for a new gaming headset At the moment I'm using a budget headset. the hyper x stinger. I dont play online shooters but I do play single player shooters like borderlands metro exordus and stalker and other shooters. as well as Nightingale and Valheim I have had my eye on the Audeze Moxwell and VZR Model one. headset. which one would you recommend for me. Thank you.
My only concern is the detachable boom mic i feel like those break easy i am not rough on head sets in my opinion but i have had bad luck with the detachable mics before and if i buy these and it broke can you replace it with some different mic or would you need to find the same 1 somewhere
I want to get this for my series x, just want to be able to take full advantage of DTS. My monitor only has 3.5mm output and I play with mouse and keyboard…thus nova pro is attractive but I know I’d get so much better imaging from vzr…search continues for a decent dac with DTS support for Xbox….
so my pair that i got sound very bass heavy. it sounds like i'm listening to voices through a wall. the positional accuracy is insane. I'm just wanting to know if maybe my headphones weren't tuned properly.
I have a question I have an VZR model one I also picked up a Gamedac 2. I connected the VZR to it(gamedac 2) and just been experiencing audio issues and not a lot of people have these two products together so I'm wondering if its something on my end or would you also experience issues as well. I hope something like this isn't too big of a ask.
@GadgetryTech Hi, Joe! Have you tried the VZR Model One on PS4/5, and if so, how was the maximum volume level compared to the EPOS H6PRO when plugged into the controller?
Yup! They both get very loud. The open back H6PRO is the quietest of the three. H6PRO closed back is the loudest of the three, purely from sensitivity rating.
Is there any way I could get you to share your FR graphs for these? I've been looking to replace some aging game ones and I'm really thinking this might be it. I'm just worried about the mids and bass sneak up.....I really like my mids
It does! I did that for a while so I could have game and chat mix on PC. The mic gain on the Mixamp is a bit weak though so you could still have issues on mic pickup, especially on Xbox
I just got these today and im using a Soundblaster g1. The amp makes my Cloud Alphas sound great but these VZR headphones sound muffled, What can i do to fix this?
Hi there awesome review, I’ve been wanting to purchase this headset, but I’ve hearing they have issues with Xbox series X do you find this to be true? Thanks
I haven't had many issues. Only issues so far are the mute switch on the headset cord broke (thankfully in the on position) and the mic can get fuzzy which can be solved by barely moving it. So some teething issues for a first model but honestly they sound so good to me I still love them and use them constantly. Absolutely best headset for gaming imo even without the quality of life features that are in most other sets.
Hey I mostly game and occasionally listen to music. I don’t stream or make videos. I currently have the Beyerdynamic 900 pro x hooked up to a XLR mini and Rode pod mic. Do you think I should return that stuff for the VZR Model One and Schiit Hel2e? Can’t decide what the better overall setup would be. Thanks!
hi Joe I play on ps5 and I play a lot of of sports games and I'm currently using the barracuda pro I ordered these a few days ago will they sound better than the barracuda pro do you think I made a mistake what ones would you po whith thankyou
Quick question. Do you use Dolby atmos when playing video games or let the game provide the raw sound to your headphones for the the soundstage and imaging?
I’m so torn between getting the AZR or DT700 Pro X. Currently in the market for a closed back audiophile headphones. The Hyper X Cloud 2 have been my daily drivers for years but I wanna try something new that’ll give me the same sound (or better) that the Cloud does for me.
How does this compare to HiFiman Arya Stealths? I know you kept saying it won’t rival a $2000 headphone but what about something around $1000? I feel sometimes I can’t place this accurately with the Aryas. Thanks
They sound completely different from each other to be honest. Your ears can get used to either but it’s about as stark as it gets. Model One has a very strong bass response, lower mid range and a unique treble response. The Arya had nearly flat bass and mid range, with a dip at 1-2k then a lift at 3k before dropping back down a little. The planar open back Arya Stealth plays every micro detail and is pretty incredible for music.
@@GadgetryTech thank you for responding!!! Really have been been watching all your videos to try and find a headset to be my main. Audio is very addictive!!
Hi Aggro! Apex's audio is "meh" at best, and not known for great footstep audio. With that being said, the Model One's frequency response is great for footstep audio, and has some emphasis in the 500hz range which is close to the frequency of Apex Legends footsteps. Hope that helps! I played with them plugged directly into my controllers (Xbox and PS5), into the Turtle Beach Ear Force audio controller on Xbox, the Astro Mixamp Pro, and my Schiit HEL2 on PC and PS5 (where it shined the most).
I have these headphones. I first used them on the ps5 and played mw2 with them. You don’t need to eq them at all, just plug and play. I set my in game audio mix to headphones bass boost and I was able to hear/ pin point enemy footsteps really well with these. Unlike my beyerdynamic dt990s which i have to hook up to a dac/amp and eq them.
@@TheQuickyouknow I was thinking about buying the maxwells before i bought the model one’s but im glad i got the model one’s instead. I feel like you wont be disappointed if you do decide to get these. I was playing a match of SnD on farm 18 aiming down between the middle building and the bus thats on the right side of the map, no bs i was able to hear people running down in the basement in the apartment building.
Hi, I have both and the penrose x too. These are enough better that the answer is the VZR model one. Just turn down the bass for footsteps within the xbox dolby atmos app under custom and turn on surround virtualizer.
This was by far the best explanation of headphone sound. Appreciate the detailed review!
Man! I'm already loving this headset by hearing your review. I hope that in the future VZR will sell this headset in Europe.
I reached out to them and asked this. I'll let you know!
@@GadgetryTechCool, I appreciate that
@@GadgetryTech Did you get a response from them Joe, I am in the UK and they are unavailable here?
Same here im from Germany and need a shipping
@@GadgetryTech would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also you say they sound like a theater sub woofer bass? im in to that to as well if so.
Love how in depth your reviews go. I have been debating on either these or the h6pro. I would love to see a deep dive video on these and epos h6pro. And what is better overall. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anybody do a comparison of these two headsets alone. They're always paired in with other headsets as well. Really just want to know what's the best between these.
Dear Gadgetry Tech.....
I found your channel after looking at other channels that review headsets As always you are now my go to favourite channel for headsets reviews as I dont get as much insight from other reviews as you. I like the way you present your products you review and you give such an Informative In depth and honest review. Thank you so much keep up the good work great job. Like and subscribed.
Really enjoyed this review! Very comprehensive and approachable from a review perspective. Glad I was recommended this, subbed!!
Ok so I got my VZR's today and hooked them into my Shiit Hel2e and my ps5 and all I can say is WOW. I'm absolutely blown away at how good these are!
how is it working in fps game? is it good for footsteps
@@p0go598 my main game is PUBG I play every single night and the VZRs have great directional audio. Footstep detection is on point
@@Silent_Gold74 Thanks, I need good headset for ps5 my a40tr is not good for ps5
@@p0go598 I'm also using the Shiit Hel2e DAC. I highly recommend it. Extremely clean crisp sound
Have you tried on the new call of duty or destiny 2 ? Was wondering if it’s good for footsteps on those.
i got these today, and i’m sooooo excited to get them
If you need any help with them on Xbox let me know. They are great.
@@biggesttbosshelp me out man
Thank you for the excellent description of what makes these different from the rest.
Great review! You're one of the few UA-camrs I fully trust when it comes to audio as our taste in mix seems to align..I LOVE bass in my headphones, and most come out weak or just a flat EQ on that front.
One question, how was the volume on PS5 for you? I find it can be a mixed bag depending on the headset..some are decently loud, some aren't. Currently using Penrose and Turtle Beach 700 Gen 2 Max and they're both good but TBs don't get as loud as I'd like at times, while Penrose are loud but can get very harsh like you were saying...Anyways, thanks in advance!
Thanks so much Asa! The headset is amazing on PS5. The controller has some decent juice to it, so it will definitely get loud. Louder than the 700 G2. It may not seem as "loud" as the Penrose, but that's because some of the overly bright harshness is no longer there. The overall dB is still up there though. If you ever need more, just add the HEL2 and you'll be blown away.
Appreciate the info! I'll definitely try them out, I'm very curious how they sound. I'll be sure to use your link when I cop them!
@@GadgetryTech Would you use these for voice over post processing? Or do you think I'm better off using hd560s
Awesome review as always, Joe. This headset looks so nice and premium. I love the style and no needless RGB. As you've probably seen me mention a million times in the comments, I currently use the PC38X, but I'm always curious what else is out there. Like, what is the next step up. When you mentioned Warzone my ears perked up because that is the game I play most online. Plus its great that they're so good for movie watching. I think I need to get a pair just to try them out for myself.
This could be the one Rory! If you get one let me know and let me know what you think. The founders are great and really stand behind their brand.
I meant to add to this, but I've been super busy lately. The PC38X is an open back and really shines on games like Warzone. The Model One sound is very different and will take some getting used to. If you get the Model One, play a few nights straight with it, without switching models. Then form some conclusions from there. I found once I adjusted for they way they deliver sound, the Model One is very natural sounding and feels like a special headset.
@@GadgetryTech Thanks. I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet but probably will soon. I think in your review you said the audio mix in Warzone wasn't the greatest. Yeah, that's the understatement of all time. I don't know why it's so hard for them to pull down all the ambient sound effects and boost the things you actually need to be able to hear.
@@rorytaylor626did u buy?
Great review! And thank you for it!
When you were in contact with the VZR guys, did you get more specific information about their custom made dynamic drivers - what components used and what materials they are made of etc?
Great review! I ordered this headset along with the EPOS GSX 1000 2nd Edition amp / dac.
I can't buy that from their website there is no option to buy
the Pinna thing really helped me understand why i preferred my LS10x soundstage to LS50x, i think. the headband doesnt perfectly fit my big ass head so in game everything sounded super close.
so em ,i'll give you a $100 for these 😁😁
LOL! Never! I'm glad you found it helpful! This headset created a lot more discussion on the science of sound so I hope at least some people benefit from that part. I'm glad it helped you :).
Hey Joe, you’ve basically become my go-to for the most trusted reviews. I’ve purchased 2 headsets solely because of you and haven’t regretted my decisions. That being said, I love my H6pro’s (closed), would the Model 1’s be a step up? I play mostly Fortnite (lmao) and COD. My biggest reservation to pulling the trigger is wondering if these are 2x as good as the H6pros since they’re 2.5x the price 😅
I just got these yesterday, having found artificial positional audio not translating well to my ears. Put these bad boys on... DAMN. The positional awareness is ridiculously pin-point levels of accurate. They also feel lighter than they are. As the earpads "burn-in" and adapt to your surrounding ear area, the fit gets even better. Absolute blast listening to high fidelity music and going back into RP and FPS games to pull out the difference in detail and immersion.
Good review. To me, the corsairs blow this mic away. This one has too much of that higher pitch hollowness that so many headset brands have. The funny thing is that the mic in the cord is so much better than the included headset mic. It's too bad that the headset went massively just for sound and put the mic as maybe B grade. Why we can't get a superb sound with superb headset is beyond me.
In case it helps, they have since upgraded the mic and even the cable to better handle impedance matching of the new mic setup. You have to remember this is their first production product and it’s called the model one. Slow evolution but it’s already at a great starting point. Corsair mics are top notch!
I have tried a few headphones trying to find the best positional audio for gaming, specifically CoD. I will be pulling the trigger on these soon primarily based on this review, can’t wait to get my hands on them.
I’m curious if you have played MW2 on these, if so how is the vertical audio positioning? I’m finding it very hard to judge if someone is above or below in MW2.
I’m looking into the same thing. I’m assuming you’ve gotten a chance to use them? How are they?
how are they??
I have these coming in the next few days. I will let you know how it goes.
Wanting to know same thing anyone know ?
So i’ve played a few matches and used it for about a day now and let me start by saying this is probably just one of the best soundstages i’ve heard in headphones period. In MW2 you can close your eyes and pin point exactly where shots/footsteps are. highly recommend these. I’m also pairing it with a Schiit fulla gaming dac.
Ahhh I can’t wait until they’re available in Canada. 😮 I live by PS5 3D and DTSX on Xbox so I’m looking forward to adding them to my collection.
I reached out to them regarding your comment. They said to contact them via email if you are really interested and they can see what's possible! Let them know I sent you over if you reach out. info@vzraudio.com
@@GadgetryTech Gotcha, thanks I just sent an email regarding this. :D Fingers crossed.
@@Dini_Tsii awesome good luck!
I’ve recently found your channel and have listened to several reviews now. You’re definitely the most thoughtful of the reviewers I’ve watched. Maybe you can help me out with headset decisions for PS5. I’ve been using the Penrose headset for a while and while I like the sound quality it disconnects often, has buggy sounds and is super tight and uncomfortable. I’ve had several other expensive headsets I’ve liked but I don’t want to go back on the sound quality. I’m looking for the best sounding full wireless option I can find primarily for PS5. I love when sounds stay super crisp and detailed even at high volumes and love wide and open spatial/directional sound stages specifically for gaming. I’ve got plenty of quality options for music/movies already so not concerned about that. Maybe the MG20s? What do you think? And thanks ahead for your time.
I also have the Audeze Penrose and faced the very same issues you mentioned. Regarding the comfort (or lack of), I’ve replaced the cushions by the Wicked Cushions, the difference is insane. On the connection, I’ve plugged a USB extension on the PS5, and I always try to disconnect other Bluetooth devices, as silly as it sounds, it worked. Steelseries just released a new “steelseries arctis nova pro wireless”, I’m curious about how good this headset is, watching videos and reading reviews :) Stay safe.
Hi Charles! Right now it's the MG20, and the new Arctis Nova Pro if you want wireless and crispy! Both are great headphones.
I’ve been using cloud 2 wireless for quite some time, it’s not Penrose audio quality but still very clear with great connection range and battery life, and its way more comfortable than the Penrose.
If you don’t care so much about wireless, just buy the Creative sound blaster G6 and Drop 38X, you will be in for a blast.
@@GadgetryTech would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also you say they sound like a theater sub woofer bass? im in to that to as well if so.
Nice detailed review, Joe. Looks like a nice headset. You might remember me from the Stealth 700 Gen 2 Max review. I ended up having to return them due to connection problems. Don't know if i got a dud pair or not. I've ended up ordering the Arctis Pro Nova Wireless today instead of them. Hopefully i'll be impressed.
I definitely remember you Gareth! I usually respond/keep up with all the messages well but I’m moving to the new house in a few weeks so these past few weeks have been crazy. I too ordered an Arctis Pro Nova as well! My 700 G2 still works fine even now, but I’ve shifted to focusing on each headset I’m reviewing so I haven’t done more than 50 hours in the 700 G2 Max. When I used it with the extension cord it was fine though. Hopefully you and I both enjoy the Nova for a wireless headset though haha. Good luck man!
Phenomenal review as always! I actually just ordered these to compare to the HifiMan HE-R9 and send the one I like less back. I'd love to see you do a review in those just ti see what you think. This sounds a lot like my experience from the HE-R9.
Which one did you end up sending back? Not trying to pry, just curious who won the battle, haha
@@wrecklessKane I ended up sending both back and getting another pair of Penrose. HE-R9 probably would have won the battle for me between the two though. ONLY because I'm not a fan kf the super warm sound signature of the VZR.
Great review as always. So in your opinion what is the best gaming headset you have tested. Cost not being a factor?
I know this is an older review, but hopefully someone comes in here and replies to me.
I'm looking for a new pair of headphones. Primarily for gaming, but I'm also a programmer by day and listen to music on my computer while coding, so I'd like to have as good of a music experience as possible. I'm heavily considering getting this headset, because it's so good for gaming, but I'm also heavily considering the DT 700 Pro X, however there is almost ZERO information on the DT 700 for gaming and absolutely no information comapring the two headphone/headset. Based on the analitical charts from RTINGS on the DT 700, they have an okay soundstage, but fantastic imaging that rivals the PC38x, and from everything I hear the VZR is about the same as the PC38x if not better in both those categories, so that would tell me the DT700 would rival the VZR in imaging but slightly lack in soundstage for gaming. But the DT700 has better highs and mid accuracy, as I've heard that one of the downsides to the VZR.
Has anyone used both these headphones, or can point me towards someone who has?
Note: I need a closed back as my wife works and games in the same room, don't want to spend more than $350 and don't need a mic as I have a studio mic for my work that I use.
Buy them both and send the ones you don’t want back. I just got the VZR and Incan say that they are the best I’ve heard. The build quality is also incredible. Beyer’s are going to have a sharper EQ. If you don’t mind that, then give them a shot. I’ve heard a lot of people say that beyer’s are not the best for gaming.
I ordered a pair of these and Michel has personally emailed me 6 times making sure everything is good. Also, they now have a longer mic and a new cable that boosts the signal for Xbox FYI. I'm sure a quick email will get a replacement sent right out
I got the longer mic but what’s this cable you speak of? Even with the new mic I still have to have it practically in my mouth for it to pick up my voice on xbox. Does the cable help anymore with that?
Bummer these aren't available to be sold in the EU. I was looking into the Arctis Nova Pro, but damn do these babies seem right up my alley!
I reached out to them regarding your comment. They said to contact them via email if you are really interested and they can see what's possible! info@vzraudio.com
Just ordered these. Thanks for the great and detailed review.
Do these need a DAC/AMP combo to get the most of these cans? I dont know much about DAC/AMPs, Ive always just plugged my headsets straight into the PC.
Thanks in advance if you reply!
Thanks! They definitely do not need an amp to run, as they are very efficient. Having said that, when I paired them with the Schiit HEL2 and made a couple tweaks to the EQ for my liking, they blew me away.
@@GadgetryTech
Thank you for replying and giving me special attention. You've earned yourself another subscriber just for that.
My currently broken HyperX Orbit S (Sister-Product to the Audeze Mobius) were my first pair of mid-range headphones, it uses the same planar drivers as the Mobius. I really liked the sound signature and clarity of it for gaming/movies/music; hoping these won't disappoint me as I believe I'm moving from a brighter headphone to a warmer one. I always leave EQ flat and as neutral as possible.
I'm still not sure if spending the extra $200 for the HEL2 will be worth the money for someone like me. Any thoughts on the value proposition?
@@GadgetryTech care to share an image of what those EQ settings are?
I'm assuming you use Sonar for EQ ?
very very full review ! Quick question, for around 350 is there a better sounding headset wihtout a mic ? You might have said it in the video but it's possible i missed it. Again, very good and full review ! thanks :))
Thank you! For a closed back with the sound profile I described, there really isn't much to consider at this price point in my opinion. Perhaps the 6XX or Sundara if you want open back, but at that point if you want an open back I would just get the Hifiman Edition XS. So in short, the Model One for closed back, or spend a little extra for the Edition XS. Both are pretty much top of the game at $500 and under.
@@GadgetryTech thanks ! I'll be checking theses out :) Keep up the videos !
I currently use GSp600. I like these alot, love the design. But I find them I little heavy on the head after a while. Also find sound stage a bit too closed in. Feels like there punishing you after a while! So wanting to improve on identifying positions and letting ears and head off the hook a little. You have definitely sold me on giving these a try. I'm big into hifi but have kept separate headphones between the two. That said I'm interested to try these for my music. Cheers 👍
I hate that they don’t have a distributor in Europe
I ordered m1 from Amazon and waiting for delivery
Excellent video, where can I find the EQ settings for Hesuvi so that I can tune them for Warzone?
Definitely picking these up, They sound like an amazing headset, Been looking for something to replace my Hyper X Orbit S. They were great but I hear weird buzzing and popping noise from them every once in a while, and they started becoming really uncomfortable. Couldn't you also connect these to a game dac and still be able to adjust the volume that way?
you can connect anything using an AUX/TRSS cable to a game dac.. sooooo.. yes?
@GadgetryTech Best Wired gaming headset for a 500$ budget please? Please give an open-back and closed-back option.
I think many of us don't understand the difference between open and closed back, you should make a video about it.
Most reviews are on closed back and most of us play in our room so we don't have to use closed back.
These seem to be very good headphones. Do you think they would be the best to use for attaching to a GC Sound Blaster DAC with a 3.5 plug?
Thank you for your review, I got the penrose and before I bought it , I have watched many of the viewers on UA-cam , you are the one who commented with truth and tell the fact . Most of them just say very good, nice , ba ba ba and they don’t mention the disconnection problem, I admit that penrose offer clear and excellent sound , I played pubg a lot, penrose give me clear directional foot steps , that is nice . However , don’t you think that it is fatal for a headset which disconnect very often if you play competitive online games? If you are gamer , you know what I am talking about . Turtle beach 700 gen 2 also got the same problem , wireless may not be the right direction. So I am searching for the wired one. I got Xbox series x, I realised that the mic of M1 works not good on Xbox? But what I most concern is the sound quality and no latency. May I ask when you are wearing m1, can you hear the environmental sound . Eg. A baby crying in the room next to you , thank you very much
The M1 blocks off more noise around you than any passive headset/headphone I've ever tried. The passive noise isolation is insanely good. If you DO want to hear background/environment noise, I strongly recommend the EPOS H6PRO Open Acoustic, or the Drop PC38X. Both are great gaming headphones for the money as well.
@@GadgetryTech thank you very much , great suggestion
I bought these but just wish I could get a little bit louder volume at times. I love them with music (vocals are a bit low) but love how it really brings out all the other instruments.
On Xbox, the issue is definitely with the mic, nobody can ever hear me. I'm on the fence with returning them because I play mostly FPS's on Xbox and the mic not working well is a major bummer. Wish there was a way to get a better mic or raise the mic chat volume.
Yeah the challenge is definitely the mic sensitivity on Xbox right now. If you play on Warzone you can boost your mic volume in game which helps a lot. Set it to 300-400 and it helps to address that issue.
I can look into other games when I can too but that was my workaround for now. I still need to test other DACs more to see if the Mixamp Pro or Arctis DAC boosts the mic enough as well
have you heard any fix for this issue on there end or Microsofts end? I wanna try the headset but if the mic isn't good for party chat I'll have to pass which sucks I really wanna try them out.
Yea I got mine today and it’s sounds like I’m listening with water in my ears. I’m thinking that there’s just too much base. I really don’t wanna say it’s the fault of the headset. I’m getting an Astro mix amp for it so hopefully that’ll help as it won’t be connected through a wireless controller. But idk it just doesn’t sound natural to me.
@@SlishSlosh did the Astro mix amp fox this issue ? I had the same problem currently
@@jonasjackson9215 you can definitely adjust the level of bass if you want. It doesn’t fix it but after a while the drivers either got broken in ,meaning they work as they were intended, or I just got used to them. Other than that, the directional audio is second to none for gaming headphones and the clarity is unmatched somehow.
@gadgetryTech - Thank you for the review, great channel.
Ordered the VZR headset however just wondering Dac wise, would you still say the Schiit Hel 2 is the way to go or would the DX3 Pro+ DAC/Amp be a good option?
I think you said the Schiit Hel is more warmer in tone over DX3 being more natural?
What DAC/Amp did you end up going with? My VZR headset is arriving next week and I'm wondering if the DX3 Pro+ would be a good match.
@@o_J_A_R_O_o I ordered my VZR model one back in January 17th and still haven't got it in Aus yet. Just logged ticket with VZR support since post has no idea. :(
I'm going to use Goxlr mini for now but either get the DX3 Pro+ or SMSL DL200 at this stage.
I think the SMSL DL200 could be slightly better but not sure it's as well built as the DX3 Pro+
I haven't heard what these dac etc will sound like either so one could be better depending on your taste. At least the DL 200 has a filter pass change unlike the DX3 Pro+
Thank you for your quick reply and sorry to hear you're having issues with your purchase. I've been also looking at the MX3S, that I just watched a review on in comparison to the DX3 Pro+.I was going to go with the DX3 Pro+ initially, but I feel like the more reviews I watch, the more indecisive I get lol
@@o_J_A_R_O_o To be honest you can't go wrong here.. I was also looking at MX3S as while it mightn't power higher end headphones.. I get a lot of options and base and treble change could be a life saver for the VZR model one.. while can be done with software, I like having one unit to do this.
mine have a weird echo? when voices come through the game it picks them up onto disxord even when i have the mute switch on? any idea . when it’s muted it won’t pick me up but the voices in game will be???
Hi Joe.many thanks for the penrose and m1 answer. I've had my ps5 for just over a year. since then I've bought a lot of headsets.Thought you might find this interesting.First of Sony 3d pulse. Yes they sound terrable. Second was steel series arctic pro, good sound but lacking base.changed eq setting and it made things worse.then the recon 500.great headet, but the high end was lacking in detail for me.Razer shark v2 pro was lacking in volume, when plugged into controller.barracud x.i just did not like.stealth 600 gen 2.was great, wish I still had it, traded it in for the 700 gen 2, they sounded better but I found the imaging was not as good as the 600.and last the cloud flights.exchanged for my cloud core wireless,which have much better sound, .I wish i hadn't bought my h6 pros, the m1 imaging sounds much better. I have become a bit of an audiophile maniac, always on the lookout for newer better sounds.sorry for long description.many thanks.take care.
You bet! So glad you found the info helpful, and that's quite the journey!
[my preconceived issues: 1. Closed back small soundstage; 2. Drivers (plastic lens); 3. Hot AF Earpads.] .. Now I'm watching the video: My observation was in your 3-hour Call of Duty gameplay. I didn't notice you using this headset once...
Hi Joe.many thanks for a great review, I have three headsets.the h6 pro closed back, cloud core wireless, and audeze penrose.each are unique in there own way in sound presentation. Would the model one have better sound imaging than the penrose.All my gameing is done on ps5.many thanks, keep up the great work.
Hi Jason. That's quite an awesome collection there! The Model One is a very different listening experience. You will need to play a few hours straight on it before jumping to any conclusions. With that being said, these are not nearly as forward sounding as the Penrose. They will immediately sound more laid back, but with more bass. With Penrose, the details are sharp and a bit bright in some audio mixes. In many cases I found I had to turn the volume down on the Penrose to help cope with ear fatigue. That's not the case with the Model One. On the M1, you can have a higher volume threshold, allowing everything to sound "full" and "rich", without hurting positional accuracy. On that note - the imaging of these is about as good as any closed back can get, even as you approach $1000 headphone pairs. It's just a different level. Plus, the comfort of these is a night and day improvement over the Penrose. I like the Penrose in certain applications don't get me wrong, I'd just rather play on the M1 all day. Hope that helps!
@@GadgetryTech How's the overall max volume on PS5? 32ohms is not much power so it should be loud enough I assume. I'm still rocking Senny's GSP 370 and I love them.
So I guess as far as closed back these are probably the best soundstage and imaging you can get in the price range?
I'm looking at either this or the DT 1770 I think.
Great review, though I really dislike the Metal band over the top of the Leather band. Otherwise the look is great.
hi joe i am lookin for a wired headset with good imaging and spacial audio especially for fps like tarkov.....i ve been researchin a long time now and i want an closed back one so i watched the steelseries arctis nova pro and vzr model one reviews of you....btw you do such a great job your vids are awesome man......i cant decide which headset i should take.....so the question is do you recommend the mode one or the nova to me? or do you know any better pick for closed back wired. i dont really ned the dac but its nice to have....thank you in advance
Hello! New subscriber here. Awesome review and you are my new go-to UA-camr for headsets after watching most of your reviews. You deserve more subscribers!
I am going to purchase this headset after your review, but It doesn't seem like they have worldwide shipping. At least not to Norway where I am from. Do you know if they are planning on expanding their shipping?
Also what are the main difference between the Schiit Fulla and Schiit Hel? Why did you pair the headset with the Schiit Hel for example?
Hi! The HEL2 has a better mic preamp and more power. Because of that I recommend it with the Model One so you can benefit more from it. I was told to reach out to them via email mail about international queries. I believe it’s info@vzraudio.com. Tell them you came from GadgetryTech and they’ll see what they can do! Best of luck
@@GadgetryTech Thanks for replying :) I emailed them and mentioned that I watched your review of the Model One and want to purchase it. They will hopefully get worldwide shipping going this fall/winter. Guess we will have to wait.
Amazing vid...I recently purchased the audeze Penrose and primarily use them on PS5 but I am getting constant popping unless I use the jack... Because of that I'll be returning them... I thought the Penrose sounded great but was wondering if these are comparable/better?
Got my set. Thank you again for your review and advice. Have you done a Sonar profile for this headset on MW2? Could you perhaps share your findings with us? Best regards.
I haven't yet as I've been swamped with content lately but I'll be revisiting EQ videos as soon as I can
@@GadgetryTech No worries. Thank you for your reply and all your hard work to keep us updated. Best regards to you.
Currently I use Epos H3pro Hyrbid and I do really like them, but am considering swapping to this headset, but I lack a DAC to use this headset with on PC. Would you say this headset is worth it without a DAC and just plugging it right into a motherboard? Wireless means nothing to me, and I am okay with the price increase. I also do not care for the Bluetooth.
I just purchased these. Can you recommend a dac/amp please to pair with these the Hel+ is sold out everywhere.
Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Great video with so much info.
Thank you.
What did you go with
@GadgetryTech How would these be best configured with the Sound blasterx G6 Amp/Dac? I'm thinking of purchasing the VZR Model One headset and this is the amp/dac I currently have. Would I run it in stereo mode with all the added features in the Creative sound blaster software disabled? Also, when configured in Windows sound, am I supposed to have the "enable audio enhancements" checked or unchecked? Love your channel and hoping you respond to this!
If you had to choose between the Arctis Nova Pro Wirless or this headset which would you choose?
Hard part is they couldn't be more different aside from having two speakers and a mic! With the Nova Pro, the sound is brighter and more focused on treble detail. On the Model One, a lot of focus was placed on properly emphasizing bass response to help with immersion. The Nova Pro is loaded with features, possibly more than any wireless gaming headset ever made. Part of what you're paying for is going towards that. The Model One is pure analog. All the money you spend is going into the build quality, comfort (long term comfort is amazing), imaging, and sound stage. They will seem a lot more laid back sounding when you do an A/B test. If you use the Model One for a week+ without switching, you will get used to the sound and benefit from pin point accuracy when gaming. If you are gaming on PS5 with a controller, or on PC and have a decent enough headphone amp with mic support (the Schiit Hel 2 for example), the Model One is top notch.
It really matters what's most important to you and if the draw backs of either model sway you towards one or the other. The Nova has been great and I really do enjoy them. I find sound tuning to be easier to deal with for long long sessions on the Model One (movies are unworldly good!), and I know it will last for years and years.
@@GadgetryTech Wow! Ty for taking the time to give such a detailed response. Tons of good info. Definitely got a new sub.
@@GadgetryTech How about if it was strictly for FPS footsteps and environmental awareness sound stage? I ordered the Nova Pro but I might return them for this set because this review kinda sounds like you rank them as 1 of the best for what I'm specifically looking for mentioned above.
Penrose x is the way
@@simonveno 🤣🤣
how does sound isolation compare to h6pro ?
If you are talking about passive noise isolation from the room noise via the ear cups themselves, it's honestly shocking how quiet these ear cups/pads are. This is the first headset where I need to take the headset off sometimes to hear what people are saying in the house even if I have nothing playing. Considering the H6PRO closed back uses a hybrid pad, the noise isolation is still excellent. Honestly for under $200 they are top notch. The open back variant doesn't really block anything out of course, by nature of design. The VZR Model One is just a bit beyond what essentially every gaming headset I've heard does with terms of noise isolation. It was the first thing I noticed when I put them on, and it was shocking.
Will these be good with the astro mixamp pro tr? Or will the mixamp hurt the headphones? I use an Xbox Series X with the sound settings at stereo uncompressed
Been trying to decide between these and the h6pros super torn between the 2 would you recommend these over the h6pros
Hi, how does this compare with FiiO FT1 Headphone, which one is better?
I mainly play competitive FPS games but also use my headset for general use like UA-cam, movies and shows. I’m currently looking between the Audeze Penrose X and the VZRs. Would you recommend one completely over the other or are they comparable enough that it’s safe to get either one?
Penrose has a better measured frequency response, and the mid range is sublime. The VZRs have a strong bass emphasis which some people do not like. You can pull that bass down in software though, and still get something great. The VZR is much, much more comfortable than a Penrose, and it's built like a tank.
If I lost my VZR Model One headset cable, along with the 3.5 Jack, can I replace them with headset cables made by another company? I don’t care about the mic/mute function since I don’t use the mic anyway. Thanks.
Thanks for this great insight on these headphones. I am very interested in these headphones as I am currently looking for new headphones for my PS5 anyway. Do you know if they plan on shipping international as well? I'm from Germany and currently I can't find a solution to get this headphones, because its only available in US actually. Best thanks
what DAC would be a good choice to use with the VZR that I ordered, they will be connected to GOXLR on PC ? I have a Shure microphone connected to GOXLR. I currently have Astro DAC but was thinking of going with SteelSeries GameDAC Gen 2 and use steelseries software.
i will get two of these
I've been considering getting a different headset. Currently I'm using an Astro A50 on PC. I mostly play warzone. If I were to get these would I need to figure in a DAC or Amp of some kind into my budget? I really enjoy your reviews.
You definitely do not need a dac on console. It plugs directly into the controller and uses the Dolby Atmos app on the xbox and I have the penrose and nova pro and I don't even really want to use them much because this headset is so nice. I turned the bass down a little in the app.
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Have you done any eq on these yet? I feel some times on warzone there is to much bass and some times the sounds around you overwhelm the foot steps. currently im using headphone bass setting currently but have tried headphone setting too. Any help would be appreciated. I use this headset for fps gaming.
GadgetryTech, ONE QUESTION what is the mic jack? 3.5 mm? or something else?
I wanna use something else as a mic
I have the Corsair Virtuoso SE and love them, today I ordered the Audeze Maxwell wireless but am worried that I should have gotten these, I have the Wave XLR that I could plug them into. I really do like wireless since owning the Virtuoso, but if the audio is really that much better I would be willing to go back to wired. I only play on PC, but watch movies and listen to music on PC too. Do you think I should have gotten these instead of the Maxwell?
How you like your Maxwells? Tbh the VZR Model One was a disappointment to me. So many good reviews and I really tried to like this headset, but the bass overpowering, sounded muddy, and seemed to clutter up into the lows and mids. I love bass and it was one of the reasons i loved the Mobius so much, but these didn't have the clarity and punch I was looking for. It's a very rumbly and thundery bass rather than punchy, tight, clean, and clear. The wires also get coiled/tangled up really bad and the mic quality is very subpar for a 350$ headset. The Model One is very comfortable with great build quality and the positional audio is pretty good. When it comes to FPS these are really good at pinpointing footsteps, but for music listening and overall sound quality i was disappointed. I wish I would have tried them through a DAC and tried to EQ them better before I returned them as I feel it could've made all the difference. I want to try out the Maxwell as I previously had the Audeze Mobius and loved it. I've tried about 10 different headphones/gaming headsets and the mobius is the only one that has impressed me so far. The sound quality on the Mobius is truly incredible and I was hoping that the Model One or the Maxwell could live up to it. The virtuoso is also one of the headsets i tried. The features and mic quality are really nice, but it wasn't very comfortable and the sound quality was pretty mid for a 250$ headset. So all that said, I wish I would've gotten the Maxwell instead of these lol. How would you rate the Maxwell on sound quality, and compare them to other headsets you've tried?
The only reason that I am trying to upgrade is because I have one through five pairs of Astro a 40s. They always seem to break but they still have amazing audio.
All I’m trying to get out of the vzr line is a louder, clear, more accurate version of the Astro a 40s like putting them on steroids and from what I heard from reviews that’s what these were capable of I have spent almost 20 hours troubleshooting but the mic will not pick up in the audio will not clear and I’m wondering if it’s a mix amp needed or a dac amp needed but everybody said that these were amazing out the box. I couldn’t even get that with loads of equalization added I couldn’t even get that connected to a mix amp somebody in the comet has the answers to my problem, so somebody please help because I want to experience what everybody has that own these and are happy with them.
Do you have a good sidetone/mic monitoring solution with these? The Schiit Hel 2 doesn't do it with zero latency, right? I want something higher end than my Astro Mixamp TR for this purpose with these headphones. I'm trying out the Soundblaster GC7, but the mic volume on max is too low for both sidetone and others on Discord unless I turn on AGC in the windows sound properties. Then the mic is extremely noisy (EMI) compared to another pair of headphones with a V-Moda Boompro, an analog Modmic Uni/Modmic 5 with shielded cable, or well-shielded/grounded headsets like the Beyerdynamic MMX 300.
I'm Looking for a new gaming headset At the moment I'm using a budget headset. the hyper x stinger. I dont play online shooters but I do play single player shooters like borderlands metro exordus and stalker and other shooters. as well as Nightingale and Valheim I have had my eye on the Audeze Moxwell and VZR Model one. headset. which one would you recommend for me. Thank you.
Question, ear pads, do you know if there are any after market ear pads for "Open Design". I didn't Google yet :) I just cannot stand closed Design...
My only concern is the detachable boom mic i feel like those break easy i am not rough on head sets in my opinion but i have had bad luck with the detachable mics before and if i buy these and it broke can you replace it with some different mic or would you need to find the same 1 somewhere
I want to get this for my series x, just want to be able to take full advantage of DTS. My monitor only has 3.5mm output and I play with mouse and keyboard…thus nova pro is attractive but I know I’d get so much better imaging from vzr…search continues for a decent dac with DTS support for Xbox….
so my pair that i got sound very bass heavy. it sounds like i'm listening to voices through a wall. the positional accuracy is insane. I'm just wanting to know if maybe my headphones weren't tuned properly.
I’m new to PC gaming so I have a simple question, would I plug this headset into my NZXT capsule mic OR straight into my PC?
is there any 10-band EQ you recommend for these headphones or is stock EQ fine for the current Warzone/MW3?
I have a question I have an VZR model one I also picked up a Gamedac 2. I connected the VZR to it(gamedac 2) and just been experiencing audio issues and not a lot of people have these two products together so I'm wondering if its something on my end or would you also experience issues as well. I hope something like this isn't too big of a ask.
Tak!
Thank you!!!
@GadgetryTech Hi, Joe! Have you tried the VZR Model One on PS4/5, and if so, how was the maximum volume level compared to the EPOS H6PRO when plugged into the controller?
Yup! They both get very loud. The open back H6PRO is the quietest of the three. H6PRO closed back is the loudest of the three, purely from sensitivity rating.
Is there any way I could get you to share your FR graphs for these?
I've been looking to replace some aging game ones and I'm really thinking this might be it. I'm just worried about the mids and bass sneak up.....I really like my mids
Would this headset work if you plugged it into a Astro mix amp?
It does! I did that for a while so I could have game and chat mix on PC. The mic gain on the Mixamp is a bit weak though so you could still have issues on mic pickup, especially on Xbox
@@GadgetryTech thank you for the help! if used with the Astro mixamp with this on Xbox would that improve the issue with the mic output
I just got these today and im using a Soundblaster g1. The amp makes my Cloud Alphas sound great but these VZR headphones sound muffled, What can i do to fix this?
There's a small amount of static when you talk through the headset mic. What is causing that?
If your cord cable broke for the VZR model ones. What would you use as a backup.
What would you recommend plugging these into for gaming on PC?
Fantastic review! You have a new sub, I went to buy these and they aren’t for sale in the uk sadly… anyone have a good alternative?
Hi there awesome review, I’ve been wanting to purchase this headset, but I’ve hearing they have issues with Xbox series X do you find this to be true? Thanks
I haven't had many issues. Only issues so far are the mute switch on the headset cord broke (thankfully in the on position) and the mic can get fuzzy which can be solved by barely moving it.
So some teething issues for a first model but honestly they sound so good to me I still love them and use them constantly. Absolutely best headset for gaming imo even without the quality of life features that are in most other sets.
Hey I mostly game and occasionally listen to music. I don’t stream or make videos. I currently have the Beyerdynamic 900 pro x hooked up to a XLR mini and Rode pod mic. Do you think I should return that stuff for the VZR Model One and Schiit Hel2e? Can’t decide what the better overall setup would be. Thanks!
I would stick to what you have until you can swing for something like a Hifiman Edition XS
How do you plug this headset on console ? Thought the controller ? Don’t you lost a lot of quality hooking it in a controller ?
Hi! For competitive fps gaming, is better vzr model one or beyerdynamic dt900 pro x ?? in combo with my ifi zen dac v2. thank you
How is the volume with a PS5 controller? Do they get loud enough or do you have to crank the volume to max on ps5.
I was looking at these for the ps5 in your opinion can the ps5 controller push a 32 ohms impedance well enough to get full use out of this headset??
hi Joe I play on ps5 and I play a lot of of sports games and I'm currently using the barracuda pro I ordered these a few days ago will they sound better than the barracuda pro do you think I made a mistake what ones would you po whith thankyou
Quick question. Do you use Dolby atmos when playing video games or let the game provide the raw sound to your headphones for the the soundstage and imaging?
I do still love using Atmos when I can! Especially if the game allows it
@@GadgetryTech thanks for the reply much appreciated.
How does the imaging and soundstage compare to the Edition XS?
I’m so torn between getting the AZR or DT700 Pro X. Currently in the market for a closed back audiophile headphones. The Hyper X Cloud 2 have been my daily drivers for years but I wanna try something new that’ll give me the same sound (or better) that the Cloud does for me.
Get the vzr model one
The dt 700 pro x is a lot more tame and the directional audio isn’t the best
It’s well very rounded but tame compared to the vzr. So explosions aren’t as dynamic
How does this compare to HiFiman Arya Stealths? I know you kept saying it won’t rival a $2000 headphone but what about something around $1000? I feel sometimes I can’t place this accurately with the Aryas. Thanks
They sound completely different from each other to be honest. Your ears can get used to either but it’s about as stark as it gets. Model One has a very strong bass response, lower mid range and a unique treble response. The Arya had nearly flat bass and mid range, with a dip at 1-2k then a lift at 3k before dropping back down a little. The planar open back Arya Stealth plays every micro detail and is pretty incredible for music.
@@GadgetryTech thank you for responding!!! Really have been been watching all your videos to try and find a headset to be my main. Audio is very addictive!!
how was the headset when it came to apex? and what audio source did you plug it into out of curiosity?
Hi Aggro! Apex's audio is "meh" at best, and not known for great footstep audio. With that being said, the Model One's frequency response is great for footstep audio, and has some emphasis in the 500hz range which is close to the frequency of Apex Legends footsteps. Hope that helps! I played with them plugged directly into my controllers (Xbox and PS5), into the Turtle Beach Ear Force audio controller on Xbox, the Astro Mixamp Pro, and my Schiit HEL2 on PC and PS5 (where it shined the most).
Hey i know this is a old review but out of the 4 which one would you purchase these vzr model ones, dt 900 pro x, pc38x, or sundaras
I can’t speak for the Dt 900 pro x or sundaras, but these blow the pc38x out of the water.
So I can't eq it for footsteps on mw2?
I have these headphones. I first used them on the ps5 and played mw2 with them. You don’t need to eq them at all, just plug and play. I set my in game audio mix to headphones bass boost and I was able to hear/ pin point enemy footsteps really well with these. Unlike my beyerdynamic dt990s which i have to hook up to a dac/amp and eq them.
@@eddieb3575 Good to hear. Usually with EQ I bring down the frequencies for explosions, do you find other game sounds overpower footsteps at times?
@@TheQuickyouknow Honestly gunshots and explosions don’t interfere with footsteps at all. In my opinion it’s pretty well balanced overall.
@@eddieb3575 thanks, I got the Audeze Maxwell on pre-order, but if I don't end up liking those I'll probably switch to the VZR.
@@TheQuickyouknow I was thinking about buying the maxwells before i bought the model one’s but im glad i got the model one’s instead. I feel like you wont be disappointed if you do decide to get these. I was playing a match of SnD on farm 18 aiming down between the middle building and the bus thats on the right side of the map, no bs i was able to hear people running down in the basement in the apartment building.
Does anyone know where I can find EQ settings?
I got this with the Astro Mixamp pro tr and am loving the combination with Dts headphone x
Nova Pro Wired or the VZR Model 1? XBOX series X FPS games competitive.
Hi, I have both and the penrose x too. These are enough better that the answer is the VZR model one. Just turn down the bass for footsteps within the xbox dolby atmos app under custom and turn on surround virtualizer.