In my opinion this Amazing Machine it's really a Master Piece, an Art Work on wheels, So BMW did a Great work in manufacturing such a wonderful, powerful, majestic, imponent, impressive and beautiful Beast which also sounds Amazing!!!, So no doubt at all That The Amazing BMW R18 Roctane it's my favorite Motorcycle!!!, Great explanation and video as well!!!, Thanks for sharing!!!
To me, the Roctane is the best looking R18 model yet. Fabulous design and build quality. I would prefer one over the Harley equivalent; firstly because I'm a big fan of shaft drive and secondly for the exclusivity - everyone and his dog is tooling around on a Harley bagger in these parts. Cheers from Alabama
I went into a BMW dealership to buy a used 23 Hayabusa. I saw the R18. Now bedazzled by the R18, I held off on the Hayabysa purchase. One week later I came back for the R18.
Pity you didn't mention that there is such a large gap in build quality between any BMW R18 and any of the Harley Davidson model range. I presently own one of each brand so I've been able to experience first-hand the amazing BMW build quality.
I traded my Harley for an R18 first edition partly because of the 'Sons of anarchy ' dress code and attitude that a lot of Harley owners feel the need to adopt . R18 is a beast and I love it and I've only seen one more on the road . When I toured Ireland last year it got plenty of attention from bikers and tourists alike
Nice review mate! Im a current Harley owner and the Roctane is high on my next bike list. I've always wanted a Road king but here in Australia a new Road king will set you back between $38-42k depending on dealer. Second hand mid 30s. A new Roctane is $26sh.. you get a LOT for your money with the BMW and it looks way better in person. Second hand here the R18 go for half nothing. I seen one on marketplace for $14.5k the other day. Not good if you buy new but as a used bike, absolutely fantastic!
I love them but way out of my price range sadly, I would get this over a Haley as I don’t like they new stuff anymore, I not a big fan of Indians sadly either, and I am attempting to save for a smaller bike, I want the KTM 390 Adventure, but the accountant likes the BMW 310GS, the new RE Him also drops here in a few months so hopefully the others will drop their prices. To clarify after several years on the back of the Iron 883 the accountant wants her own bike 😂 thanks for the amazing blogs. Love your work.
That’s the exact bike that I test rode that led me to the classic. Also taking a 35mm carbide hole saw to the baffle inside the exhaust really livens up the sound👍
Beautiful looking bike and well done for getting your hands on one. It’s the position of the pegs I can’t cope with being tall with bad knees. Otherwise I would have one as a future classic👍
nice commentary on this version of the R18. BMW quality shines through as usual. I’m on a 2018 Road King in Kentucky. The perfect machine for country roads & long distance road trips . Do you think BMW will ever attempt a Vtwin? Seems the R18 wants to be a Road King! Happy Spring 😎
BMW don't need to change anything to be better than any current Harley Davidson. IMO all air- cooled V twins are old hat and are on their way out technology wise.
You wait until you get into middle age +50 and go back to your school, then you wonder where has the time gone!! Nice bike. Love the entire R18 platform.
Hello. I Just collected my r18 like yours, Iv done few milles moving un and down the rpm. non more than 3000 rpm. My body is getting used to the ride, to many years non riding. Perhaps theres no other bike better from 1000 rpm to 3000 rpm or more. Second gear 1000 rpm exit from a bend its delicious. What an engine God. Bravo BMW
That is a beautiful looking bike. I’m 67 and I would find the sheer weight of it too daunting, if BMW did one half the cc and a lot lighter I would go for it.
I traded my Harley Ultra for the Transcontinental last yr and thusfar very happy with the purchase 😊..Has options no other bike has..not even an CVO.. which at the time was 20k more!!..The fit n finish is amazing too..n most importantly I look pretty cool 😎 on it😅 My son got is K1600b bout the same time..says it clicks all for him too!!😊
The R18 was actually on my shortlist when I was buying a new bike. Ended up buying a Low Rider ST. For me it just came down to seating position with the foot controls just being uncomfortable for me on the R18, and the other huge factor for me was the availability of after market parts. I'm also from the US and every mechanic knows how to work on a Harley really well lol. If it came down to price over everything else the R18 would've won for sure, the Low Rider was an expensive buy. Love both bikes, but it was the Harley for me
@@Nobbi0815 kept mids with bung king crash bars to stretch my legs out. So I can switch it up. Mids on the ST actually feel a little further forward than the R18 as well
Another great, informative & high quality video. Well done. Is the ol' man OK? We've not seen him around recently... Hopefully all's well. Keep up the good work. 🍻
Lovely presentation of this Berlin made behemoth, Darcy 👍 I'm with you, the HOG is what I chose if I was buying a cruiser. No way to ride through BKK traffic with an engine as wide like this.
Looks wise I would take this over a Harley any day and with the oil/air cooling the longevity of the engine should be fantastic for a couple hundred thousand miles.
The size of the fuel tank is my only issue, approx 250km's per tank is a deal breaker on a bike that big masquerading as a bagger. Needs a 400km range. Beautiful looking bike though.
Great bike and very glad BMW is getting into this genre of motorcycle. I test rode one and was impressed but it has a ways to go to compete with HD and on some levels Indian. Without a doubt the build quality finishing is tops and equal to HD…both ahead of Indian. Riding dynamics, and I must caveat it’s a individual call, is it lacks the total riding dynamics for the American roads…both HD and Indian have flat nailed this riding dynamics considering highway and suburban miles. But this is definitely worth a look and buy decision if you don’t want to follow the crowd…watch the dealers as the quoted price screams higher with some personalization of add on’s. Very good bike
The chrome laden machines are not to my liking. In fact I’ve never been particularly keen on any cruisers. However, this BMW smashes it big time. Love the colour scheme, love the style, love the coolness. I’d take this over a Harley any day! Already have a dark grey RT which does everything I need in comfort and style so I won’t be putting my money where my mouth is any time soon. (Famous last words)🤣
Much prefer it in this stealth black to the chrome laden version, would be easier to clean and more practical to look after I think. Also makes it "look" more manageable but we know its still huge. With the direction Harley has taken, I would now prefer this now over a new Milwaukee tractor. Thanks for the quick review Darcy.
I kept staring at that weird cylinder above the handlebars, so I'm glad you explained what it is. Not a very elegant solution, but who needs speakers anyway, I always use earplugs too. R 18 or Harley? Neither, both are too big and cumbersome and with Danish vehicle taxation much, much, much too expensive for me. But it does look nice.
I was thinking the same thing. As much as I would love to ride that BWW and become familiar with it, I don't think I could ever trade my Softail for it. That said it would really be great to have a friend who owns one to ride with, sort of admire it from my Harley :-)
How does the cornering clearance compare with the first edition? I understand the wheels are bigger. Has the ride height increased that you've noticed at all?
Nice looking motorcycle. I do like the color and black chrome finish on it. It looks a little heavy I don't think it would be suitable for country riding though narrow lanes in the uk.
I want to like this bike. It is handsome for sure but when I tried it I found the legroom limited and the bars a bit of a stretch, I would describe it more as wierd rather than uncomfortable. It could do with a bigger tank as well, the bike is big enough that it wouldn't look out of place.
Now I want a comparison between this rinocerous and the r18. And I want the use of that kind of adjectives. I have a lot of fun with that. I wish you could do that!!
I wasnt a fan of the original First Edition however I do like the R18 B and the Roctane and have added to the my list of must test ride, on the question as to whether I would buy one over a Harley , as Harley Road King owner the answer would be no, although as H-D no longer produce a Road King I would seriously consider purchasing an R18 B as my next bagger.
You did a fine job in selecting and framing the setting for your discussion of this machine. I especially appreciated the contrast of materials between the bike and the church. As someone who's a transplant to southern California I especially enjoy seeing country and old buildings. You and you're dad's enthusiasm in product reviews is engaging and I hope appreciated by those who choose to lend you their machines for testing. Re: your inquiry . . . I'd prefer the Harley line. Every time I go to the BMW dealer and see the 1800 series bikes I'm disappointed when seeing how large the cylinders are that stick out on each side of these beautiful machines. For myself I have a V-twin in a SuperDuke and my son has two Harleys: a Dyna and a late model Road Glide. Thanks for sharing!
Certainly a nice looking bike that could tempt me away from my Street Glide, but It wouldn’t fit in the gap in my garage! Nice thing about the Harley is it’s relatively slim.
Definitely i would choose the Rocktane for all new Harleys available today. Harleys has shrinked in sizewise besides the engine cc. BMW has a way better build finish too, just sad that the foot position isn’t optimal for a cruiser Bike (i’m 6f4) and fees a bit cramped while sitting on it
This bike is huge and disproportionately large especially for older or smaller riders. It would need a very ample garage to be parked in and to make it easy enough to maneuver out to ride. I'm not sure after 30 minutes wrestling the bike around my place I'd feel like riding....maybe a nap instead. 😁😁 I'm not slagging the bike as I'm sure it would be an excellent bike to ride given you are the proper size and you have enough space much like other big bikes from other brands.
I would probably choose the BMW R 18 Roctane over, well, a Harley-Davidson Road King special. And since the Indian Springfield Dark Horse hasn't been upgraded in 4 years I would probably have chosen the Roctane over that too.
I own an R18B and a Harley Road King. They are similar but the HD needed the rear shocks replaced with Fox units. The Beemer has a better ride out of the box and works better in city traffic as it is blessed with a gear driven primary and dosen't lurch like the Harley in stop & go situations. It has a slicker gearbox as well. On the open road, both are excellent. Fit and finish are gorgeous on both bikes, but the Harley really looks the business and has a style advantage. Bottom line - I like them both!
I'd take the Roctane over a Harley every time. Swansea HD wouldn't let me test a Road King, because it was too clean, they didn't want the bike getting dirty. Cardiff BMW, didn't question it, didn't even book it, just turned up and they said "see you in a few hours". HD's definitely sound better, but the quality is with the r18.
Hi Darcy I love a harley or a bmw but being pensioner and being 72 to expensive and heavy for this old gimmer I will stick to my v7 stone se and my interceptor and benelli 502c three for the price one 😅😅 but great bikes
The problem for me is that there isn't a dealership local to my area, the closest one is 100 miles away. I had been considering a B or Transcontinental but should something go wrong it is a good 2 hour drive away to get a service done. I am looking towards an Indian as the dealership is only 30 miles from the house.
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could help me with a question - I will be in Wales later in April and staying in Bangor at the University. I am looking all around for a place to rent a motorbike...but I can't find anyplace! Is there anywhere in that area that you know of that rents motorbikes? I didn't realize it would be so challenging!
I concur with the road situation, I'm just up the A16 in Holbeach and we have a sinkhole in the town which seems to reopen annually then gets unceremoniously patched up ready for the next year
The new beard style suits you better I think. Is that a weird thing to say? Either way it does and my wife agreed lol. Also it looks like a bike you could cruise for miles on and just explore.
Like most automotive designs the first model is the best. IMHO it’s the same with the R18. Having said that I’m riding around on a Lexmoto 125 with L plates, so what do I know?
Biggest issue with the R18 family is the very high purchase price and then the huge depreciation. BMW are struggling to sell them, currently offering £3000 of the new price, but the weight makes it hard to manoever around, the reverse gear is inconsistent in engagement and Harley's hold their value better, and are easier to live with. I like them, but could never buy one
Very true and I was looking at buying one. problem will be moving it on when I want a new bike as the dealers don't really want them as they sit in showrooms for ages.I have the same problem with my Goldwing, without the discount at purchase, as not even Honda want them back.@@tmar0075
I agree they handle nice, though ground clearance is minimal in corners. The thing that bugged me was kicking the cylinder with my toe whenever I went to shift or brake. The ones with the floorboards are worse than the ones with footpegs. Much as I luv my floorboards on HDs, they don't work worth a crap on this bike for me. I'd swap them for pegs the minute I got home. That said, the dreary black/gray paint job means I'd never take one home. I'll go watch a video on starvation if I want to be depressed.
BMW have really screwed up with this because they’re fabulous bikes. They’ve pi**ed of a lot of owners who’s bikes have dropped from what they paid (me included). Harley, never do this, and every year the price creeps up, in so doing, keeping the resale value high (certainly in the Uk). Darcy would get very close to what he paid for his Harley if he were to sell it.
I'd say this bike would best be compared to the Harley baggers, especially the Road King, and as such does not impress as being particularly heavy. Compared to the Softails, however, yes, it is a heavy machine. If I were looking at acquiring a bagger, yes, I would consider the R1800. Otherwise, I doubt it. I agree that it is a great looking bike, though. As far as BMWs go, I'd most likely opt in for the new R12. Though, like you, I am partial to Harleys, especially the pre-M8s.
The resale values of the r18 are abysmal they are dropping faster than Sheffield united leave it 12months get a used one half price. Sorry but leave the cruisers to harley Indian and triumph
pick any bike and they all lose money, and lots of it. It’s just the price you start from that matters. The only way to beat the system is buy and keep it a long time.
Touring with a 4.2 US) gallon tank?! LOL! In its favour are tubeless wheels. I am certain it is a wonderfully riding motorbike but I would sooner have a Harley Road King and its 6 gallon (US) tank and hydraulic valve lash adjusters. Much better for one's wallet and much better for one's eyes. The motor looks like you're having a BBW of two rather oversized armadillos. How weird is that? Real weird. Thank you. SS
@@Ray-he4oe I’m pretty objective actually and have ridden many different bikes in my years of riding. Not sure what problems you’re referring to?? I’m currently riding and Milwaukee 8 that has just turned over 30,000klms of trouble free riding in my 3 years of ownership (2021 model FLSB). I’d say that’s pretty bullet proof to date.
I recently Roasted the BMW website on my channel and much of that was down to the overblown language and clumsy use of such Monikers as Roctane which is just so comically German that it made me laugh out loud. Also the use of 'Rock' and 'Roll' riding modes on the R12 must have seemed soooo cool to the focus group that came up with them, but in reality is just embarrassing. Also, auto translated text and AI purporting to be photos was really irritating. Bike itself, despite the hefty proportions (and price tag) is undoubtedly great and much closer to my idea of a Grand tourer than a GS. Discuss...
PS Yaxley eh? Takes me back to MY Youth which was a lot longer ago than yours. Is Yaxley Pig Water still there? The whole area is now massively developed as part of the Peterborough thing. I only visit to see my Mum these days. I've bought motorcycles from Sycamores back in the day when they were called Balderston's.
i just got a rocktane 2 weeks ago and ive been looking for a windshield for it and cant seem to find one. do you know what screen is on that one. also great video once again
In my opinion this Amazing Machine it's really a Master Piece, an Art Work on wheels, So BMW did a Great work in manufacturing such a wonderful, powerful, majestic, imponent, impressive and beautiful Beast which also sounds Amazing!!!, So no doubt at all That The Amazing BMW R18 Roctane it's my favorite Motorcycle!!!, Great explanation and video as well!!!, Thanks for sharing!!!
To me, the Roctane is the best looking R18 model yet. Fabulous design and build quality. I would prefer one over the Harley equivalent; firstly because I'm a big fan of shaft drive and secondly for the exclusivity - everyone and his dog is tooling around on a Harley bagger in these parts. Cheers from Alabama
I went into a BMW dealership to buy a used 23 Hayabusa. I saw the R18. Now bedazzled by the R18, I held off on the Hayabysa purchase. One week later I came back for the R18.
Pity you didn't mention that there is such a large gap in build quality between any BMW R18 and any of the Harley Davidson model range. I presently own one of each brand so I've been able to experience first-hand the amazing BMW build quality.
I traded my Harley for an R18 first edition partly because of the 'Sons of anarchy ' dress code and attitude that a lot of Harley owners feel the need to adopt .
R18 is a beast and I love it and I've only seen one more on the road .
When I toured Ireland last year it got plenty of attention from bikers and tourists alike
I think if I had to choose between the Harley and BMW. I reckon I'd go for the BMW every time.
@@Yelwas good luck with your American (or Thai built?) inferior quality Sport Glide. Keep plenty of parts handy. You will need them.
Nice review mate!
Im a current Harley owner and the Roctane is high on my next bike list.
I've always wanted a Road king but here in Australia a new Road king will set you back between $38-42k depending on dealer. Second hand mid 30s.
A new Roctane is $26sh.. you get a LOT for your money with the BMW and it looks way better in person.
Second hand here the R18 go for half nothing. I seen one on marketplace for $14.5k the other day.
Not good if you buy new but as a used bike, absolutely fantastic!
Exactly the price is very attractive buy the HD's man the prices are off the wall
AUD$38,000 for an inferior build quality bike. That is totally pathetic in all respects.
I’m always blown away by the beautiful architecture when I’m on holiday in the UK. You capture the beauty of the backdrop very well with every video.
I love them but way out of my price range sadly, I would get this over a Haley as I don’t like they new stuff anymore, I not a big fan of Indians sadly either, and I am attempting to save for a smaller bike, I want the KTM 390 Adventure, but the accountant likes the BMW 310GS, the new RE Him also drops here in a few months so hopefully the others will drop their prices. To clarify after several years on the back of the Iron 883 the accountant wants her own bike 😂 thanks for the amazing blogs. Love your work.
Sounds amazing! But prefer the looks of the ole mans bike, great video as always bud 👍
💯 agree Willie - the Ol Man 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great looking bike. Excellent build quality. I have the 100th anniversary model and love it. Thanks for doing these videos.
That’s the exact bike that I test rode that led me to the classic. Also taking a 35mm carbide hole saw to the baffle inside the exhaust really livens up the sound👍
Love that old school speedo in the nacelle styling cue.
Beautiful looking bike and well done for getting your hands on one. It’s the position of the pegs I can’t cope with being tall with bad knees. Otherwise I would have one as a future classic👍
The bike is a wonderful mix of new tech and old world charm. The octane is a wonderful bike.
I like the look of your version much better. The sound keeps impressing me !
nice commentary on this version of the R18. BMW quality shines through as usual. I’m on a 2018 Road King in Kentucky. The perfect machine for country roads & long distance road trips . Do you think BMW will ever attempt a Vtwin? Seems the R18 wants to be a Road King! Happy Spring 😎
BMW don't need to change anything to be better than any current Harley Davidson. IMO all air- cooled V twins are old hat and are on their way out technology wise.
You wait until you get into middle age +50 and go back to your school, then you wonder where has the time gone!! Nice bike. Love the entire R18 platform.
The sound of that bike made me check the skies for incoming Heinkels 😂
But without attacked by Spitfires 😂
Comment is cool😁 but honestly the sound of the bike is not very impressive
Sound is making me check my underwear.
@@misterfourstroke I imagine both scenarios could be true at the same time 😂
Don't forget the messersmitts🛩️
Hello. I Just collected my r18 like yours, Iv done few milles moving un and down the rpm. non more than 3000 rpm. My body is getting used to the ride, to many years non riding. Perhaps theres no other bike better from 1000 rpm to 3000 rpm or more. Second gear 1000 rpm exit from a bend its delicious. What an engine God. Bravo BMW
Great to hear, enjoy 😉
That is a beautiful looking bike. I’m 67 and I would find the sheer weight of it too daunting, if BMW did one half the cc and a lot lighter I would go for it.
Incoming R12
Finally. A decent looking R18.
Those barrells, pipes, its mamoth and so well finished.
I traded my Harley Ultra for the Transcontinental last yr and thusfar very happy with the purchase 😊..Has options no other bike has..not even an CVO.. which at the time was 20k more!!..The fit n finish is amazing too..n most importantly I look pretty cool 😎 on it😅
My son got is K1600b bout the same time..says it clicks all for him too!!😊
I'm a BMW man and yes i would go for the Harley if i was looking for a cruiser.
Can see why. However this BMW, as all BMWs, is exceptionally good at accommodating tall people. And with my 198cm, believe me i get to use all of it.
I love to watch Mr. Darcey and the old man videos! Want to see more.
Great to hear 👍🏼👍🏼
Been to look at a couple this weekend and bought one. Very imposing machine with huge presence.
Awesome, enjoy 😉
I think they should of made the tank larger. It competes with the road king which has greater fuel capacity.
Should've. It's a contraction of "should have." You're welcome.
Germans usually very good at making tanks.
Well, all in all, I prefer Harleys. Lovely video. Keep up the good work. Incidentally, where's your dad? Long time no see. Hello from Italy.
Thanks 😊 check out the BMW R12 nineT it says why he has not been in videos 👍🏼
The R18 was actually on my shortlist when I was buying a new bike. Ended up buying a Low Rider ST. For me it just came down to seating position with the foot controls just being uncomfortable for me on the R18, and the other huge factor for me was the availability of after market parts. I'm also from the US and every mechanic knows how to work on a Harley really well lol. If it came down to price over everything else the R18 would've won for sure, the Low Rider was an expensive buy. Love both bikes, but it was the Harley for me
i agree, i like the R18 but the foot position is really uncomfortable for me at 6ft 2
@@ukvampIt's great at 5'5" 😆
So you have forward footpegs? Because , the standard position on the ST is much more crap than at the 18.
@@Nobbi0815 kept mids with bung king crash bars to stretch my legs out. So I can switch it up. Mids on the ST actually feel a little further forward than the R18 as well
A beautiful and magnificent piece of machinery 😎
Another great, informative & high quality video. Well done.
Is the ol' man OK? We've not seen him around recently...
Hopefully all's well.
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks very much, check out our bmw r12 nine t review to see why 😊👍🏻
Thanks, have just caught up with the R12 Nine T .... good to see all's well.
(Apart from the never ending deluge obviously!)
Cheers again.
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@@MrDarcy-OlMan🍻
Lovely presentation of this Berlin made behemoth, Darcy 👍
I'm with you, the HOG is what I chose if I was buying a cruiser.
No way to ride through BKK traffic with an engine as wide like this.
Additionally the BMW is too classy for Thailand
Looks wise I would take this over a Harley any day and with the oil/air cooling the longevity of the engine should be fantastic for a couple hundred thousand miles.
The size of the fuel tank is my only issue, approx 250km's per tank is a deal breaker on a bike that big masquerading as a bagger.
Needs a 400km range.
Beautiful looking bike though.
Great bike and very glad BMW is getting into this genre of motorcycle. I test rode one and was impressed but it has a ways to go to compete with HD and on some levels Indian. Without a doubt the build quality finishing is tops and equal to HD…both ahead of Indian. Riding dynamics, and I must caveat it’s a individual call, is it lacks the total riding dynamics for the American roads…both HD and Indian have flat nailed this riding dynamics considering highway and suburban miles. But this is definitely worth a look and buy decision if you don’t want to follow the crowd…watch the dealers as the quoted price screams higher with some personalization of add on’s. Very good bike
The chrome laden machines are not to my liking. In fact I’ve never been particularly keen on any cruisers. However, this BMW smashes it big time. Love the colour scheme, love the style, love the coolness. I’d take this over a Harley any day! Already have a dark grey RT which does everything I need in comfort and style so I won’t be putting my money where my mouth is any time soon. (Famous last words)🤣
Much prefer it in this stealth black to the chrome laden version, would be easier to clean and more practical to look after I think. Also makes it "look" more manageable but we know its still huge. With the direction Harley has taken, I would now prefer this now over a new Milwaukee tractor. Thanks for the quick review Darcy.
well said about HD direction
I kept staring at that weird cylinder above the handlebars, so I'm glad you explained what it is. Not a very elegant solution, but who needs speakers anyway, I always use earplugs too.
R 18 or Harley? Neither, both are too big and cumbersome and with Danish vehicle taxation much, much, much too expensive for me. But it does look nice.
I was thinking the same thing. As much as I would love to ride that BWW and become familiar with it, I don't think I could ever trade my Softail for it. That said it would really be great to have a friend who owns one to ride with, sort of admire it from my Harley :-)
How does the cornering clearance compare with the first edition? I understand the wheels are bigger. Has the ride height increased that you've noticed at all?
Beautiful! I've you got the money you need it in your garage.
Nice looking motorcycle. I do like the color and black chrome finish on it. It looks a little heavy I don't think it would be suitable for country riding though narrow lanes in the uk.
That gorgeous old Church. England's (Wales?) countryside is so beautiful.
Thank you! This is England, near Peterborough. The ol’man lives in wales 😊👍🏻
I want to like this bike. It is handsome for sure but when I tried it I found the legroom limited and the bars a bit of a stretch, I would describe it more as wierd rather than uncomfortable. It could do with a bigger tank as well, the bike is big enough that it wouldn't look out of place.
I love Harley’s, but this BMW worth a test ride!
Now I want a comparison between this rinocerous and the r18. And I want the use of that kind of adjectives. I have a lot of fun with that. I wish you could do that!!
I wasnt a fan of the original First Edition however I do like the R18 B and the Roctane and have added to the my list of must test ride, on the question as to whether I would buy one over a Harley , as Harley Road King owner the answer would be no, although as H-D no longer produce a Road King I would seriously consider purchasing an R18 B as my next bagger.
You did a fine job in selecting and framing the setting for your discussion of this machine. I especially appreciated the contrast of materials between the bike and the church. As someone who's a transplant to southern California I especially enjoy seeing country and old buildings. You and you're dad's enthusiasm in product reviews is engaging and I hope appreciated by those who choose to lend you their machines for testing. Re: your inquiry . . . I'd prefer the Harley line. Every time I go to the BMW dealer and see the 1800 series bikes I'm disappointed when seeing how large the cylinders are that stick out on each side of these beautiful machines. For myself I have a V-twin in a SuperDuke and my son has two Harleys: a Dyna and a late model Road Glide. Thanks for sharing!
I didn't expect it to torque to one side as much as it did.
Certainly a nice looking bike that could tempt me away from my Street Glide, but It wouldn’t fit in the gap in my garage! Nice thing about the Harley is it’s relatively slim.
Definitely i would choose the Rocktane for all new Harleys available today. Harleys has shrinked in sizewise besides the engine cc.
BMW has a way better build finish too, just sad that the foot position isn’t optimal for a cruiser Bike (i’m 6f4) and fees a bit cramped while sitting on it
This bike is huge and disproportionately large especially for older or smaller riders. It would need a very ample garage to be parked in and to make it easy enough to maneuver out to ride.
I'm not sure after 30 minutes wrestling the bike around my place I'd feel like riding....maybe a nap instead. 😁😁 I'm not slagging the bike as I'm sure it would be an excellent bike to ride given you are the proper size and you have enough space much like other big bikes from other brands.
I would probably choose the BMW R 18 Roctane over, well, a Harley-Davidson Road King special. And since the Indian Springfield Dark Horse hasn't been upgraded in 4 years I would probably have chosen the Roctane over that too.
wise thinking!
I own an R18B and a Harley Road King. They are similar but the HD needed the rear shocks replaced with Fox units. The Beemer has a better ride out of the box and works better in city traffic as it is blessed with a gear driven primary and dosen't lurch like the Harley in stop & go situations. It has a slicker gearbox as well. On the open road, both are excellent. Fit and finish are gorgeous on both bikes, but the Harley really looks the business and has a style advantage. Bottom line - I like them both!
Beautiful looks and build quality but those cylinders are still in the way of my favoured (foot forward) riding position for my dodgy knees.
Needs a P.T.O. shaft & friction throttle for the shearing season . . . & a few more cupboards : )
I'd take the Roctane over a Harley every time.
Swansea HD wouldn't let me test a Road King, because it was too clean, they didn't want the bike getting dirty.
Cardiff BMW, didn't question it, didn't even book it, just turned up and they said "see you in a few hours".
HD's definitely sound better, but the quality is with the r18.
well said about the R18 quality
Hi Darcy I love a harley or a bmw but being pensioner and being 72 to expensive and heavy for this old gimmer I will stick to my v7 stone se and my interceptor and benelli 502c three for the price one 😅😅 but great bikes
Nice bike
The problem for me is that there isn't a dealership local to my area, the closest one is 100 miles away. I had been considering a B or Transcontinental but should something go wrong it is a good 2 hour drive away to get a service done. I am looking towards an Indian as the dealership is only 30 miles from the house.
Hi there, is it possible to get the windscreen and secondary lights brand and model? Cheers 🍻
Not sure best to contact Sycamore Motorad Peterborough and they will tell you exactly what they are 👍🏼👍🏼
Makes a great sound, I prefer the R18 1st edition with the more chrome 👍🏼
Same here!
Is it the camera angle or is the BMW roll covering the gauges?
It’s the camera angle as it’s a chest mount
Roctane vs bagger that is my dude
R18 is lovely, but if you want a big heavy US cruiser style bike, get a big heavy US cruiser - a Harley or an Indian.
Very nice vid as usual.
Thanks.
I had an Indian. A Chief Dark Horse 116. I traded it in on my R18. I’ll take the R18 all day long.
Others have complimented the build quality of the Roctane. How does it compare to the H-D?
The build quality is exemplary, as is the Harley-Davidsons
@@MrDarcy-OlMan Maybe Harley Davidsons of the past and before HD took their manufacturing to a third-world country like Thailand
Love your videos! I was wondering if you could help me with a question - I will be in Wales later in April and staying in Bangor at the University. I am looking all around for a place to rent a motorbike...but I can't find anyplace! Is there anywhere in that area that you know of that rents motorbikes? I didn't realize it would be so challenging!
Many thanks 😊 sorry not sure where you can rent bikes in Wales 🏴
What brand windshield is on that one? Can’t find anything that will work on my Roctane.
I concur with the road situation, I'm just up the A16 in Holbeach and we have a sinkhole in the town which seems to reopen annually then gets unceremoniously patched up ready for the next year
keep to the subject mate. This review isn't about British road surfaces
The air scoop is placed exactly where the front wheel throws up crud.
That’s actually the oil cooler so no worries 👍🏼👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I do like that huge flat twin.
its not an off-road bike or farm bike that has to deal with cow shite etc
The new beard style suits you better I think. Is that a weird thing to say? Either way it does and my wife agreed lol. Also it looks like a bike you could cruise for miles on and just explore.
Much appreciated! Still growing out the sides to be the same length as the goatee 😊
Like most automotive designs the first model is the best. IMHO it’s the same with the R18.
Having said that I’m riding around on a Lexmoto 125 with L plates, so what do I know?
Any later editions are usually better than the first editions with build-quality manufacturing issues.
Biggest issue with the R18 family is the very high purchase price and then the huge depreciation. BMW are struggling to sell them, currently offering £3000 of the new price, but the weight makes it hard to manoever around, the reverse gear is inconsistent in engagement and Harley's hold their value better, and are easier to live with. I like them, but could never buy one
That's why u wait a yr or so..huge savings 😊
Very true and I was looking at buying one. problem will be moving it on when I want a new bike as the dealers don't really want them as they sit in showrooms for ages.I have the same problem with my Goldwing, without the discount at purchase, as not even Honda want them back.@@tmar0075
Had a first edition-gave it back because of service costs-£600 ish every 6K-loved it though
I agree they handle nice, though ground clearance is minimal in corners. The thing that bugged me was kicking the cylinder with my toe whenever I went to shift or brake. The ones with the floorboards are worse than the ones with footpegs. Much as I luv my floorboards on HDs, they don't work worth a crap on this bike for me. I'd swap them for pegs the minute I got home. That said, the dreary black/gray paint job means I'd never take one home. I'll go watch a video on starvation if I want to be depressed.
you sound like rusted on to Harley Davidson with their very medicore build quality
Roctane Bugger?
Watched a video that stated that comment helps promote videos.😊
Thanks for that 👍🏼👍🏼
You can pick up these R18 new for $9999 in the US. No one wants them and the dealers have marked them down big time to just get rid of them.
BMW have really screwed up with this because they’re fabulous bikes. They’ve pi**ed of a lot of owners who’s bikes have dropped from what they paid (me included). Harley, never do this, and every year the price creeps up, in so doing, keeping the resale value high (certainly in the Uk). Darcy would get very close to what he paid for his Harley if he were to sell it.
A "Berlin Built" BMW or the "Hardley on the Road" Davidson. Oof.
The Bimmer all day mate!
Well said! Someone here with some clues about quality
Dropping that bike would bankrupt ya.
Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'd say this bike would best be compared to the Harley baggers, especially the Road King, and as such does not impress as being particularly heavy. Compared to the Softails, however, yes, it is a heavy machine. If I were looking at acquiring a bagger, yes, I would consider the R1800. Otherwise, I doubt it. I agree that it is a great looking bike, though. As far as BMWs go, I'd most likely opt in for the new R12. Though, like you, I am partial to Harleys, especially the pre-M8s.
If I had to choose it'd definitely be a Harley. In truth though I wouldn't spend $20,000 + on either!
Love the boxer engine ,but can’t jell with it just buy a Harley Davidson.
Does he never open the luggage in this review???
Where is the old man?
Check out the BMW R 12 nineT video all explained on there 👍🏼👍🏼
The resale values of the r18 are abysmal they are dropping faster than Sheffield united leave it 12months get a used one half price. Sorry but leave the cruisers to harley Indian and triumph
pick any bike and they all lose money, and lots of it. It’s just the price you start from that matters. The only way to beat the system is buy and keep it a long time.
Triumph?
C’mon Darcy.
They’re really not that heavy or cumbersome.
Maybe it’s time to hit the gym with the ol’ Man ? 😜
I love boxers. But at 1800cc it's just too big and looks wonky to me. Styling is very handsome otherwise.
Touring with a 4.2 US) gallon tank?! LOL! In its favour are tubeless wheels. I am certain it is a wonderfully riding motorbike but I would sooner have a Harley Road King and its 6 gallon (US) tank and hydraulic valve lash adjusters. Much better for one's wallet and much better for one's eyes.
The motor looks like you're having a BBW of two rather oversized armadillos. How weird is that? Real weird.
Thank you.
SS
good luck with your old air-cooled engine on the Harley
@@Ray-he4oe Thank you for your kind words, they are very much appreciated! Good luck to you as well!
SS
It’s a very good looking and interesting machine. But would I trade the Harley Davidson Sport Glide softail for it? Well, no.
Sounds like you could be rusted onto the old air-cooled V twin engines and its problems?
@@Ray-he4oe I’m pretty objective actually and have ridden many different bikes in my years of riding. Not sure what problems you’re referring to?? I’m currently riding and Milwaukee 8 that has just turned over 30,000klms of trouble free riding in my 3 years of ownership (2021 model FLSB). I’d say that’s pretty bullet proof to date.
The exhaust at idle sounds like a tractor and then while accelerating it sounds like someone put a cheap exhaust on an old Honda civic
I recently Roasted the BMW website on my channel and much of that was down to the overblown language and clumsy use of such Monikers as Roctane which is just so comically German that it made me laugh out loud. Also the use of 'Rock' and 'Roll' riding modes on the R12 must have seemed soooo cool to the focus group that came up with them, but in reality is just embarrassing. Also, auto translated text and AI purporting to be photos was really irritating. Bike itself, despite the hefty proportions (and price tag) is undoubtedly great and much closer to my idea of a Grand tourer than a GS. Discuss...
PS Yaxley eh? Takes me back to MY Youth which was a lot longer ago than yours. Is Yaxley Pig Water still there? The whole area is now massively developed as part of the Peterborough thing. I only visit to see my Mum these days. I've bought motorcycles from Sycamores back in the day when they were called Balderston's.
Rock & Roll is cool. Everyone does road and sport. 👍🏼
anti-depressants may help
Loud, expensive and difficult to look at. Must be the Berlin heritage.
Looks OK for that type of bike but the engine lets it down, not nice. The Harley V twin engine looks much better.
Have you considered issues with V-twin engine rear cylinders not receiving equal air flow/cooling as the front cylinder?
Every year bigger, stronger and faster!
I think that's not the right way! 😉👎
I would have liked that the old man did the review, instead of the young one. But ok
lol sorry 😂 if you watch our R12 nine t video you’ll see why the Ol’Man hasn’t been on the channel
@@MrDarcy-OlMan I'm not watching more videos today. Tell me, what happened? Is the old man ok?
It is a design failure, and a sales failure.
Just BMW trying to be Harley Davidson. Rather have the real thing.
i just got a rocktane 2 weeks ago and ive been looking for a windshield for it and cant seem to find one. do you know what screen is on that one. also great video once again
Awesome! I’m not sure tbh, pretty sure it’s a bmw one. You could ask sycamore motorrad