Let's freeze some guitars - Does it work?
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2024
- Maybe you heard about CRYO Tuning. This is the name given to the process of aging the wood of a guitar. We've tested it with a whole bunch of guitars frozen at 180°C for one night.
Some say its voodoo, some say it works. Maybe you can't hear any differences here on your smartphone. I recommend earphones.
Link to Cooltech -180°C Company: cooltech.at/
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Helmut
So glad I found this channel. What an amazing player, dude and concept
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Another incredible intro, Soooo melodic, you have your own incredible sound/tone for sure. Keep on keeping on brother. Love the videos from Ct. USA.
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Your playing is smooth and controlled. It’s a testament to the countless hours spent in practice. Well done!
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What a fascinating concept
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Man, your guitaring is fckn brilliant, I really like the way you play.
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That opening jam was awesome. For a moment a thought you were going to break into Bad Company ‘I cant get enough’.
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Excelent tone man
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The playing dude.....✌️👌✌️👌🎸
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This is a very interessting topic. I also had an eye on it for quite some time. It's nice to have a opinion from a working an experienced guitarist. I did a "vibration treatment" ("Einschwingen") with some of my guitars and I image that it has a similar effect (much cheaper for sure as I can do it myself ;-) ). I do not own any custom shop level guitar (but a very good self-assembled strat), but I'm sure it would be worth giving a try - since they are not too far from where I live anyway.
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i will tell when i play my gibson les paul next week. still not sure yet.
john norum likes to cryo his input 12ax7.
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@@Biblrocks I look forward to it
Bei Dir „foahrt“ jede, lieber Helmut 🤟😉😊
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I have "The Lovers" PAF pickups by Vintage Inspired Pickups. Sebastian from Vintage Inspired Cryo treats /Cryo Tuning his pickups and they sound absolutely amazing. I also use his pots
yeah , i believe in cryo 🌡️
Helmut du hast den Blues,was das wichtigste ist....
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Great video, thank you. Awesome sound and playing. My favorite out of the stratocasters here was the hard tail. I thought that sounded fantastic, what pickups were in that one?
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can‘t tell, customshop.
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Interesting. How does the defreezing process work? Do you leave them slowly defreeze? Do you put them on the sun? How long did it take to bring them back to ambient temp?
that‘s top secret :-)
over night as far as i know.
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Hello, What pickups are in the Les Paul? They sound great! Thx!
wizz pafs.
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Der Ton ist der Hammer. Wunderbar!
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The sound is awesome. Wonderful!
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BTW. I remember you said that the backing tracks you use in your videos are available. I have not found how to get them. Do we get access to them by becoming a channel member?
This is one major difference between an American guitar channel and an Austrian one. The American one would try to sell us those backing tracks at least once every video. This channel mentions them once a year, or month, or hardly ever.
I like the tracks you jam to. I think they would be fun to have. I would sooner just buy them than have a subscription though (the less monthly payments I have to manage the better).
yeah, for members. you find it in the description.
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I’m jist in the first minutes of this, but I expect to hear negligible difference in tone, perhaps more sustain, and more importantly a nice crackle to the finish 😎
yes, that‘s also my impression. will test it with my own les paul.
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He mentions his channel Tone Ramble but hasn't gone live with it yet. He should get the channel up even if he doesn't have any content yet as he could get a bunch of subscribers from this video.
I searched for tone ramble and it does not show up on a search.
that‘s tge channel of the young guys who where actually at the cryo place.
I cannot hear the difference but I was an artilleryman 40 years ago. I am curious if the process affected the tactile experience.
hard to tell with a youtube recording session, but i feel an overall change with my les paul. played for some days and can tell it got a more open tone.
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So....I freeze my roasted wood? ok, makes sense. I assume the Cryo helps remove residual moisture. In the future guitars will be made in a heated anti gravity, cryo cooled anechoic chamber?
not sure yet, will see (hear) when i play my sunburst.
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TL;DR warning :P
How wood ages and affects tone is a very old debate. It predates Gear Page talk etc. An old book by a family member of mine describes how his violins aged and he supposed something changes in the wood to make them sound nicer.
My dad's grandad Giorgio was an aristocrat, a professional musician, and had an 'exquisite Italian' cello that had been in the family for centuries. They also had three Stradivarius violins. Yes, three of them, plus over 40 theatres (it was all lost during the great depression, so I did not grow up rich). The book talks about how time had done something to the violins, so they have a tone that newer ones do not. He also says playing instruments well has an effect on them. The way he tried to describe it is so much like what guitar players say. What we hear is difficult to put into words.
Voodoo? Maybe. I noticed very early when I began playing during the 1980s that guitars owned by good players for a long time usually sounded much better. The guitars were well looked after, but something else was perhaps going on too. Cigarette smoke? Lol.
Seriously though, the major component of wood is cellulose. It is not a chemically stable substance. It crystallises in various ways and is subject to environmental conditions, e.g., it can vary in moisture content from week to week etc. Perhaps looking after a guitar well and playing it well could affect the wood? I dunno.
The most reliable way to get vintage tone from a new guitar is to play it for years. Some folks are not that patient I guess, which has created a market for folks claiming to be able to speed the process up. It can not hurt to try I guess.
Some say wood does not affect the sound of an electric guitar and they say just the electronics do. I doubt that's correct. A pickup transduces an electrical current from the vibrating strings. That current has a waveform similar to the acoustic sound and it is sent to the amp. Therefore anything that affects the way strings vibrate will have some effect on the sound -- including the hands, e.g., pressure, muting and pinching with the pick etc. If wood affects all of that, then it does have an effect on the tone.
I think the debate was fueled by a big backlash against manufacturers up-selling what they deemed to be better wood and how they attached marketing jargon and higher prices to it all.
BTW. What annoys me is Gibson's standard model is no longer their standard, i.e., it's a lesser standard and then there's the custom shop one, so simply getting a Les Paul Standard like Eric Clapton did does not cut it now. You need to pay much more to get their best standard model. I have a recent Gibson SG Standard '61. It's really nice and is fun to play, but my humble 1990s Gibson Les Paul Studio that has an ebony fingerboard murders it for tone, so I never think I need to get a loan to buy a custom shop guitar that costs as much as a decent used car (I did once get one -- Les Paul Elegant series - it was nice, but was not really worth all that extra money).
P.S. I hope the custom shop thing does not happen to amps too. Imagine having to pay three times more to get the version that actually has good tone and top quality. There are some effects pedals that have custom shop versions. Waza is kind of one. My MXR Custom Shop phaser is another. It's actually worth it though. It's made the old way with the old parts and has a sound new ones can't really nail. It did not cost three for four times the price though.
It's not just Gibson mind you. Fender do it, including all the brands they own like Jackson and Charvel. PRS do too. I will not buy a custom shop Strat. Mine is just a Mexi. I love the neck, but some things about the rest it a bit meh, e.g., cheap hardware. I think the way to go is buy Fender licenced bodies and necks. Then get a top luthier to get the frets playing as good as a custom shop Strat or Tele. I'd have no issue putting a Fender decal on it either, because they are Fender sanctioned OEM parts, not knock offs (some luthiers will not overspray a decal though, but I think my argument about decals being okay is solid).
very intersting, thank‘s for sharing.
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@@Biblrocks It's a pity it takes me 1000 words just to say 1900s violin players had the tone wood debate too 🤣
Bring on the Ice Age,
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Ich weiss das Cryotuning funktioniert im Audiobereich ,an Kabel,Stecker usw.schon seit Jahren,viele Hersteller im Highend Bereich machen das.Auch Musiker von den Wiener Philharmoniker haben sich ihre Instrumente schon Cryo behandeln lassen.Es funktioniert und ist kein Vodoo.
ja, den eindruck habe ich auch.
I've put some experimental pickups in sealed bags in a box in the freezer for 24 hours. Cryogenics.
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Did that too with Fender Noiseless N3 for 6 months, while I was working on a kit guitar. 🤣
I had a tele I really like the feel of. Super comfortable to play light. Fast easy but those noiseless pickups. Didn’t sound good to me. I bought fralins blues. Wow. Night and day. What’s funny sold the noiseless. In 2 days Paid for the fralins that were way better
Whatever it did it vintagetised them for sure.
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Its all in the hat
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Coldplay would appreciate this!
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How much does this process cost ?
about 400€
I think it ruined a nice looking guitar.
But this guy is a damn good guitar player.
So anything he plays is going to sound good anyway. Lol
there is no real damage, thanks by the way🙏🏼
Bibl goes Vooodoo... 😄
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Hello Helmut, I once accidentally left my 1972 Goldtop in the trunk of my car at -15 degrees for 8 hours - rehearsel after work - after that, I don't know if it sounds better than before, but the fact is that it has this typical fine cracks in the clear coat - as you can see on many old Les Pauls!
was a cold night :-)
So if I freeze guitar, my tone will be 0 K?
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Deine Strat (also die geile Feile) klingt viel rockiger. Die hier klingen etwas mehr "vintage", wobei auch hier die weiße etwas mehr rockt als die Hardtail. Die Gitarren könnten nach dem Einfrieren etwas runder, voller klingen, aber meine Hand lege ich für diese Aussage nicht ins Feuer. Die Frage die ich mir stelle, ob nicht lange spielen, viele Jahre spielen, nur gebrauchte alte Gitarren kaufen nicht den gleichen Effekt hat, und viel Geld spart?
stimmt, leider kosten alte gitarren halt viel geld heutzutage.
Na gut, sooo alt dann freilich meinte ich ja gar nicht. Meine 3,2 kg Paula stammt von 2009 und wurde offenbar reichlich gespielt, dann von Bigfoot bundmäßig aufgepäppelt, geplekt. Ich liebe diese Gitarre, und möchte an der auch nix mehr verändern, außer dem was ich selbst noch verändert hatte (SH1 in die Brídge, Vintage- Tuner z.B.)@@Biblrocks
Was kostet das? ✌🏻
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mit rabatt bissl was über 200€
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@@Biblrocks Danke Helmut ✌🏻
Couldn’t you have just put the guitars outside there lol?
yeah, had hard two months here, but not -180.
Not to be a jerk, but any problem in tone can be changed by putting *a new set of strings on your guitar* , most of the time.
100% of your tone is your strings.
No strings...you'd be hold a piece of wood.
i have to think about this 😎
No piece of wood, you´d be hold some loose strings. 😜
Exactly.This white Fender is fat and deep.
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I'm confused with the temperature, is it 180°C or -180°C?
negative 180C
-292 fahrenheit
Good Gibson sound.Not all of them sound like that one.
sure