Helios 44-2 58m f2 VS. Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 on the Sony a7siii

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  • @JonathanRichey
    @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +6

    What other lenses would you like to see me compare to the Helios 44-2?

  • @djentlover
    @djentlover 2 роки тому +277

    Helios feels like a dream, Sigma feels like reality

    • @marjankrebelj4007
      @marjankrebelj4007 2 роки тому +12

      Exactly. Which is the answer to how to use it. Sigma: documentary, Helios: narrative. However, if you stop down Helios to about f/8, it looks much more like a modern lens, and most artifacts disappear.

    • @GregLondrigan
      @GregLondrigan 2 роки тому

      Exactly.

    • @kaid3566
      @kaid3566 2 роки тому +7

      What I was going to say! The Helios reminds me of sweet childhood, washed out and a bit blurry, but so warm and unique.

    • @AI3Dorinte
      @AI3Dorinte Рік тому

      To be fair you can use a filter to get very close to what the helios is doing, you can't use a filter to get the info that the sigma is getting you. But if you want to get that dreamy effect fast the helios is a very cheap way of getting there. The only issue is you're going to struggle to get the focus right if you need something to actually be in focus.

    • @3693-u8d
      @3693-u8d Рік тому +3

      @@AI3Dorinte in dream,not need to be focus all the time 😁

  • @thomaslarmit6434
    @thomaslarmit6434 2 роки тому +41

    First comparison and i'm instantly sold. Sigma 24-70 is my go-to lens for past years now. And although it's a very good and nice lens which never disappoints me, sometimes my footage feels so simple and boring. This Helios is a world of difference so definitely going to pick up one to get more interesting footage and character.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Have fun! Let me know when you have filmed something with it so I can check out your video.

  • @spencerrnelson
    @spencerrnelson Рік тому +6

    Way to be straightforward and to the point. No mindless chatter like other UA-camrs, appreciate it. Great work.

  • @JUSTINBUISSON
    @JUSTINBUISSON Рік тому +4

    OMG, this is such a no brainer, the Helios is crushing this.

  • @ColinMill1
    @ColinMill1 Рік тому +6

    Like a lot of people, my first 35mm camera was a Zenit B with a Helios 44 lens (bought in the late 1960s if I recall right). Despite being totally manual it was great to use. Lost touch with it about 40 years ago (gave it away I think) and wish I still had it.

  • @voidart3031
    @voidart3031 Рік тому +4

    the 1st bridge shot
    beyond perfection ❤️

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Thanks for the kind words! That was shot in Alberta Canada, a beautiful place to visit.

  • @ajesusmission
    @ajesusmission 2 роки тому +10

    Dang - those Helios are so warm and soft. Love it. Great comparison video dude.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I love the look of the lens but would like to find it with a wider focal length like a 24mm.

    • @marjankrebelj4007
      @marjankrebelj4007 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey There is MIR-1V 37 mm 2.8 (MIP-1B in cyrilic) lens with a similar bokeh. I have it and I'm still testing it. If you find something even wider, let me know.

    • @Monk_Funk
      @Monk_Funk 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey Helios has a much harder to find 28mm lens which was made in Japan rather than Russia. I believe it still has the same unique characteristics like the bokeh and all, but im not entirely read up on it.

  • @tommikangaskortet3102
    @tommikangaskortet3102 Рік тому +6

    The Helios has been my go-to lens with my BMPCC6K Pro. I cant stop loving it lol.

    • @nict.9612
      @nict.9612 Рік тому +1

      On the Bmpcc 6k the helios becomes an 87mm or so right? How do you feel with this lens? 87mm is not always versatile.

  • @DesmondSimon
    @DesmondSimon Рік тому +4

    Such a big difference! Haven't used my Helios much but will definitely get it into more projects soon.

  • @leftclot
    @leftclot Рік тому +4

    great choice of lenses for comparisons! exactly what I needed to see, Thank you

  • @-misha
    @-misha 9 місяців тому +1

    I have a Sony ZV E10, what kind of adapter is needed for these objects?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  9 місяців тому +1

      That camera uses Sony's E-mount lens system so here's a link to a couple options that may work:
      amzn.to/4acqIgY

  • @coeurvision33
    @coeurvision33 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, it helps to discover the lens before buying it ! It seems to be a fantastic lens. Have a nice day 🍀

  • @jaime.artista
    @jaime.artista 6 місяців тому +1

    Tu video es muy bonito e ilustrativo. Felicitaciones

  • @lucas59190
    @lucas59190 Місяць тому +1

    Have you put a black mist filter on the helios for the shot at 2:00?

  • @DrWasim
    @DrWasim 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent work! I love the Helios, but sometimes the swirl can be a bit too much. But other than that, I love the colours and softness it produces. Looks like a movie.

    • @heroaomedia
      @heroaomedia 2 роки тому +4

      There are versions of helios with less swirl 🙂

    • @chrisbutler8856
      @chrisbutler8856 Рік тому +1

      @@heroaomedia There are so many variations of this lens and lenses like it haha! Do you know of any lens specifically that has these general characteristics but just a little less extreme with the swirliness? There might even be a specific version of the 44-2 that is the least extreme? Thanks so much!

    • @heroaomedia
      @heroaomedia Рік тому +1

      @@chrisbutler8856 Lomos are the closest with less swirl. Jupiters have the raw-ness of Helios without much of the swirl :)

    • @chrisbutler8856
      @chrisbutler8856 Рік тому

      @@heroaomedia Thanks!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      I'm curious, which versions produce less swirl? Personally the swirl is what I love about this lens and version.

  • @akshayjose6555
    @akshayjose6555 6 місяців тому

    Great video 🤩
    I’m gonna buy one for my self because of this
    Which 44 -2 make is your using
    Like Belomo, Valdai, KMZ
    And is it 8 aperture blade or 6 aperture blade version?

  • @DavidLeicamFotografia
    @DavidLeicamFotografia Рік тому +1

    Helios 44-2 simply wonderful, someday I will have a copy.

  • @Fxcinematics
    @Fxcinematics Рік тому +1

    Brilliant video!!! Loving both the Sigma and Helios

  • @meliorstudios
    @meliorstudios 2 роки тому +1

    Great work Jonathan! The bokeh looks epic

  • @LexerJason
    @LexerJason 10 місяців тому +1

    Helios is instant love! Feels like a dream!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching! It is a pretty amazing lens.

  • @martinsinclair55
    @martinsinclair55 Рік тому +1

    I just received my first Helios 44-2. There is a serious problem if you have a Micro 4/3 camera. The resulting focal length will be double the 58mm. I had to order a .7 speed booster. Found one in China online for $89. Will see how that works.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Whoa, very interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience with us! Let us know how the speed booster works out.

  • @aleshkovalev
    @aleshkovalev Рік тому +1

    Once time upon i want to buy this lens badly. But now i want to test hole filter hack with sigma 30m/1.4 to achieve swirly bokeh look and add all the rest imperfections in post. Just lazy to turn manual rings by hand.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Interesting. What imperfections would you add in post?

    • @aleshkovalev
      @aleshkovalev Рік тому +1

      Softness and chromatics. Not tested hack yet, bought uv filters tho, have no time yet.

  • @tevhidmedyamerkezi7986
    @tevhidmedyamerkezi7986 Рік тому +1

    Hi Jonathan,
    I'm in the market for a Helios 44-2 58mm lens, and I've noticed that there are various brands and versions of this lens. Can you let me know which specific version or brand you used in your test?
    Additionally, I've come across an anamorphic version of this lens. Would you recommend it? I'm a bit confused at the moment and would really appreciate your advice.
    Thanks in advance and keep up the great work on your channel!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +1

      Hello there, here is the lens I used for this test: Helios 44-2 58mm, KMZ version, made in the 1980s.
      Sorry, I've never used the anamorphic version of this lens so I can't give you any advice on it. But, I will say this. Filmmaking is a lot of trial and error and figuring out what you like and don't like. If you want to experiment with anamorphic lenses, I say go for it!
      If you don't like it, then just sell it and buy something else to try.

  • @otonoproducciones
    @otonoproducciones 7 місяців тому +1

    Compared to the Sirui Anamorphic APS? Please

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  7 місяців тому

      Interesting comparison. I'll see if I can get my hands on the the Sirui lenses. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @otonoproducciones
      @otonoproducciones 7 місяців тому

      @@JonathanRichey Are you on Instagram? Facebook?

  • @williamcurwen7428
    @williamcurwen7428 Рік тому +1

    I have the Helios 44-2 it is a very sophisticated lens capable of great subtlety of expression. Although the differential bokeh is used by most at f2, the lens looks it’s best between f2.8 and f4, it is also very capable at f11 for a very sharp image with beautiful low contrast colour. Works best with a very deep, very large lens hood.

  • @filmmaker-educator-mediaartist

    Nice work Jonathan --- thanks!

  • @juupafilms
    @juupafilms 2 роки тому +7

    I prefer the look of the helios.

  • @filmscapedigital6408
    @filmscapedigital6408 2 роки тому +3

    Which helios build did you purchase? There are 3 different historical manufacturing builds.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  2 роки тому

      Sorry I'm not sure. How do I figure that out?

    • @Kubrick789
      @Kubrick789 2 роки тому +2

      @@JonathanRichey if you can send a photo of the front of the lens ? There is KMZ, MMZ or Valdai production (Valdai was the worst one).

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 2 роки тому

      KMZ symbol is an angled square with a jumping arrow going through, MMZ is that same angled square but with a rounded line inside, and Valdai is a weird arrow thingy

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  2 роки тому

      @@djentlover Ok so on my lens I have a rectangle next to a circle; going through both of those is a line with an arrow on the right side. Hope that helps.

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 2 роки тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey Yeah that's Valdai

  • @the26thfilmmaker98
    @the26thfilmmaker98 2 роки тому +2

    1:35 it´s insanely beautiful

  • @hagrphotography
    @hagrphotography Рік тому +1

    What type of Helios lens? KMZ, MMP, BelOMO, Valdai or Vileika? Thanks! I love bokeh and style your type of lens!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +1

      I have the KMZ version.

    • @hagrphotography
      @hagrphotography Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey thanks man! I have to look for one 🤭

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@hagrphotography No problem! If you look in the description of the video I have a link to the one I bought on Amazon.

  • @dandobi
    @dandobi 2 роки тому +1

    Solid video. Great work. Still trying to find a WIDER lens to go with the Helios

    • @sirserge5283
      @sirserge5283 2 роки тому

      wat?

    • @hornshoeij
      @hornshoeij 2 роки тому

      There is a Helios 28mm 2.8 created in Japan. From what I can tell, it holds up to the Helios name. Not the same manufacture though

    • @nickykodak7536
      @nickykodak7536 2 роки тому

      "WIDER" means what???

    • @dandobi
      @dandobi 2 роки тому

      @@nickykodak7536 like a 24mm or 35mm

    • @tommikangaskortet3102
      @tommikangaskortet3102 Рік тому +1

      I use a 37mm MiR f2.8 with my Helios for a bit wider look.

  • @ronaltbrote4878
    @ronaltbrote4878 Рік тому +1

    What adapter exactly did you use? In the link there are all kinds

  • @xzavierhamilton1131
    @xzavierhamilton1131 Рік тому +1

    What adapter does the Helios need for a song e mount camera?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Here's the one I use for my Sony a7siii:
      amzn.to/3NZbVhp

  • @MartinMaran-s9b
    @MartinMaran-s9b Рік тому

    Hello, have you not had a problem with the focus?
    I have a helios with metabones on a bmpc 4k and I can't focus more than 1 meter

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      I am shooting on a Sony with an adapter so I can't speak to how it performs with the BMPC4k. However when I am shooting wide open (f2) outdoors with an ND filter on and my subject is backlit I do have trouble focusing. I am not used to manual focus lenses and not a fan of the focus ring on the Helios, which is probably why I don't use it as often.

  • @poldivina
    @poldivina 2 роки тому +1

    great vid! BTW what is your steady shot settings? is it maxed out? Planning to buy a helios44-2 soon and wondering if it's good with Sony's steady shot enabled. Thanks!

    • @nickykodak7536
      @nickykodak7536 2 роки тому +1

      "Is it maxed out" is very trendy and cool to blurb out, but does it mean anything?

    • @RamoArt
      @RamoArt Рік тому

      ​@@nickykodak7536"is it on the max setting?" -> is it on the highest setting? This comment made you look kinda dumb

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      On the Sony a7siii the Steady Shot options are: Off, Standard and Active. I typically keep it set at Standard.

  • @foggymossstudio
    @foggymossstudio Рік тому

    Great work! Love it!

  • @andrew_aden
    @andrew_aden Рік тому +1

    hows autofocus on helios? impossible?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Hello, the Helios 44-2 58mm is a manual focus lens only.

  • @sampeterson8274
    @sampeterson8274 Рік тому +1

    what about focus breath ?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      That's a good question. I understand the concept but have not done any research yet on how the Helios lens handles focus breathing. Perhaps I will save that for a future video.

  • @Chamaco208
    @Chamaco208 10 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful composition and representation of both lenses. I'm guessing the Valdai version of the Helios?

  • @garlandpoolfredpool
    @garlandpoolfredpool Рік тому +1

    I have a Sony alpha 7 iv. Will this lens mount on my camera? I'm pretty new to having a camera and I know that some lenses won't work on my camera. Will this one? And if it won't, what alternative lens would work?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +1

      Yes, this lens will work on that camera as long as you get the right adapter. If you look in the description you'll see a link to the one I use. Cheers.

  • @MORPHPICTURES-m7c
    @MORPHPICTURES-m7c 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing work🔥🔥🔥

  • @AteTameling
    @AteTameling Рік тому +1

    Helios is just so dreamy

  • @sboy1955
    @sboy1955 2 роки тому +1

    The Helios photos look a lot like film.. or not like typical digital images

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +1

      Agreed, that is one of the advantages of this lens, it instantly looks more film like.

  • @jassyadap
    @jassyadap 2 роки тому +1

    little help ! what mount adapter should i be using for
    a7iii for this lens?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  2 роки тому +1

      I'll put a link to the adapter I bought in the description for you.

  • @ilyasguner2267
    @ilyasguner2267 2 роки тому +2

    That's gonna be a good buy thx

  • @AdriGarciaVisual
    @AdriGarciaVisual Рік тому +1

    What adapteer i need for sony E with helios 44?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      You're in luck! I have a video already made about that:
      ua-cam.com/users/shortsUCJ4L44PJJY?feature=share

  • @veeran5465
    @veeran5465 Рік тому +1

    does the image crop with sony to m42 adapter?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Hmmm...you know, I actually don't know if I've ever thought about that or tested it out. Maybe I should make a UA-cam video about that?

    • @veeran5465
      @veeran5465 Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey Haha, Idk, but I asked someone on YT who makes videos using same setup about cropping and he said that there is no crop. So it can cover FF, but on APS-C there is cropping, somewhere around 1.5. I use this lens on my Fuji-XT2.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@veeran5465 Hmmm... interesting. I have an old Sony a6500 crop sensor camera. Maybe I should do a comparison and see if there's any cropping just to be sure.

    • @veeran5465
      @veeran5465 Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey great idea for a video 👍 Keep it up

  • @jarelroxas8713
    @jarelroxas8713 Рік тому +1

    The sigma is killer but man the Helios is SO GOOD! Love the look!

    • @atmosphere1696
      @atmosphere1696 Рік тому +1

      the look is crazy really good for close ups. get that emotion in the scene!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Yep, this lens does bring a lot of emotion into the scene. Check out my latest video where I talk about that same concept with the Helios.

  • @mattiapalombi1597
    @mattiapalombi1597 10 місяців тому +1

    Compare it to the Canon FD 55mm f1.2

  • @tomasmorales814
    @tomasmorales814 Рік тому +1

    Do you use a nd filter for the Helios 44-2

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому +1

      Yes I do! I like to shoot wide open for the best lens flares so in sunny conditions I screw on a variable ND.

    • @maxfalconforever
      @maxfalconforever Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRichey Hi! What is the adapter? Is it a speedbooster? Which model?

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@maxfalconforever I have a video on my channel talking about the adapter I use. Check out my 'shorts' tab.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@maxfalconforever I updated the description with a link to the adapter I use.

  • @youngonestudio
    @youngonestudio Рік тому

    Which version of the 44-2? Valdai, KMZ or Belomo? What year?

  • @RamTengri
    @RamTengri Рік тому

    What color grade is this? Loving the colors!😍

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Mark Bone Kodak High Con & Sat LUT

    • @brotherjauffre770
      @brotherjauffre770 Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRicheybeautiful. Do you have a link to that by any chance? Keep up the great work

    • @brotherjauffre770
      @brotherjauffre770 Рік тому +1

      @@JonathanRicheyand also is this using the Sony correction LUT too? Thanks a lot

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@brotherjauffre770 Yes, I have another video on my channel going through the different LUTS from Mark Bone. If you look in the description you'll find a link where you can purchase them from Mark.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      @@brotherjauffre770 Nope, didn't use a Sony correction LUT first, just Mark's creative LUTS.

  • @wojciechkanclerski
    @wojciechkanclerski 2 роки тому

    Helios is great and I really enjoy my 44-4 but... I wouldn't use it as my main lens. Definitely a lens to have fun with

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Agreed, I typically use it when I want to evoke specific emotions in the video.

  • @jupix1410
    @jupix1410 Рік тому +1

    Merci grand jd

  • @0MGentertainment
    @0MGentertainment Рік тому +1

    Сейчас иностранцы так тащатся с этого Гелика 44-2, хотя в то время эти качества стекла были сродни браку. А теперь это не баг а фича)))

  • @ranjang7
    @ranjang7 Рік тому +1

    I love my helios 44-3😊

  • @nagalociproject
    @nagalociproject 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice video

  • @atacelvonalon
    @atacelvonalon 2 роки тому +1

    Nice

  • @CaminoMasQueUnLoco
    @CaminoMasQueUnLoco Рік тому +1

    Hellio full cinema lens uffff

  • @lectrictraveler
    @lectrictraveler 2 роки тому +1

    I subscribed, hopefully it will help you to get to the 100 subscribers you need to brand your channel. I think your lens looks good. It's just a different tool to use when taking stills and video. I also have one and love it for Instagram promotions with my wifes garden channel EcoFarmstead. It also comes in handy for those intro's or exit scenes ... I think you will be very happy with the Helios even if it's not the best one out of the 3 lenses. It's just a different tool. I will be watching your content moving forward Jon. --chris

  • @aindoorsman
    @aindoorsman 2 роки тому

    调色真的好舒服呀

  • @henrythejeditube
    @henrythejeditube 11 місяців тому +2

    cinematic

  • @videomontage24
    @videomontage24 Рік тому

    Гелиос для неспешно прогулки и творческого удовольствия, купил тоже себе классное размытие фона

  • @ЭКОфермаМоясемья
    @ЭКОфермаМоясемья 2 роки тому

    У меня такой гелеос 44/2 с перевернутой линзой для художественной съемки

  • @Triangulum303
    @Triangulum303 8 місяців тому

    Helios is a daydream.

  • @ritmicdance
    @ritmicdance Рік тому

    Привет ! У меня резкий 44-2 а у вас какое то мыло.

  • @lorddryp
    @lorddryp 2 роки тому +1

    Helios has a nice bokeh, but the sharpnes and color are bad.

    • @hornshoeij
      @hornshoeij 2 роки тому +7

      The lack of sharpness is what makes it great........

    • @Arkadiusz4321
      @Arkadiusz4321 Рік тому +1

      @@hornshoeij 100% right!

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Agreed, it does have pros and cons. Lack of sharpness does help give it a bit of vintage look though. I have also noticed that it does shift towards magenta in direct sun, but that can be adjusted in post by pushing green into the image around -3.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Agreed, you typically buy vintage lenses because you don't want the digital look from modern lenses, which includes lack of sharpness.

  • @ЯрославФилиппов-щ2ы

    Sigma is so much better all the time .. helios is only good when you want a fucked up effect . i had 3 different helios 44 and the all were good on wide open aperture / after 4-5.6 picture looks even more boring than sigma

    • @nickykodak7536
      @nickykodak7536 2 роки тому +1

      You write in trendy fashionable tropes of hyperdense non-meaning, to be sure.

    • @JonathanRichey
      @JonathanRichey  Рік тому

      Yeah if you want to get the most emotion out of the Helios you gotta shoot wide open.

  • @melon7592
    @melon7592 Рік тому +1

    Nice