I like your content. But if I want subtitles, I'll turn on subtitles. The flashing text is just distracting for me and I'd really prefer to be able to turn it off.
I was waiting for you to make a video with your thoughts on this router! Thank you so much! I’ve been looking at this for my home to get started building out my home network 😁
I didn't realize it was going to do both when I did that. I won't be doing that moving forward. Sorry about that. Still learning this UA-cam editing stuff...
I got my UCG Max yesterday - great device overall, but I have 1 complaint. It runs very hot - 75C on idle with just Network enabled. One note to people that plan to get the no storage version - I got the upgraded 1TB version and what they sent me was actually the no storage version and the nvme was a separate package. The no storage version does not have the nvme tray - it just has a plug for the hole. The separate package with the drive actually has the tray with the drive, so if someone plans to add storage later has to buy it from Unifi or they will not be able to just plug in a drive in the device.
Reminds me of the unifi 8 port Poe switch I installed to power 5 Unifi LR AC access points for my friends church. Always ran hot stopped working just outside of the warranty but ubuqiti honored the warranty and sent a new one, sadly that switch ran hot also and made it about 3 years before dying. Had a Unfi 16 Port Poe switch still going today ran Luke warm at most
I concur. @salvatorefranco8356 That is the UDR that has the limit... And it actually 3 now I believe if you had one. It was increased from 2 to 3 with a software update...
The lack of poe ports is a complete miss in my eyes. One of these with two ap's is what i put in my parents house with a couple of cameras but having to use poe injectors makes the setup look messy and needs too many outlets so then your into poe switches but they dont make a small afordable 2.5g poe switch. The udr would have been ideal for them but they are never in stock and really need an update. Unifi express would have likely worked for them if it had a few poe ports.
I’m still hoping they come up with a replacement for the UDR. Because, you’re right, that was a great solution for very small deployments, especially since it had POE.
Yeah the Poe inbuilt is quite important in a small deployment for keeping it a clean install. An updated udr with 4 2.5g Poe ports and wifi 7 would be perfect. Then you can run the udr at one end of the building, put a second AP at the other side of the building then run 2-3 cameras. My parents and brother have zero hard wired devices in their houses so some cameras and wifi7 would be perfect to future proof them.
I consider buying this little piece of great network security. But there are still some questions I could not find an answer by now. My current setup is a Fritz!Box Router (wifi deactivated) with Netgear Orbi Mesh System (1 Router and two satellites) because I do not have LAN cables and ports all over my old house (1970s). Is there a chance to use this Netgear stuff in combination with this Unify gateway and manage it completely with it? Or do I definitely need Unify wireless access points? Which of them can be used to set up a Mesh wireless LAN system? Thank you very much for your answer👍‼️
Why don't you email me at tim@ethernetblueprint.com and I will try to answer that way. I have questions before I can help you out... (make sure to mention this comment)
Hmm i plan to buy all my home networking stuff later in the year and starting from scratch... And i fit the description you mentioned in video, a home business/prosumer I want to have unify protect (doorbell) and maybe 2 cameras (still havent figured if ubiquity or other) + going to get NAS (leaning to synology) + a couple AP I thought i had to get udm pro/se + poe switch but looks like can get this gateway max + poe switch Looking forward to your next set videos to flesh this out some more , thanks for the update
You definately don't need the SE. This guy should handle what you mentioned just fine. I think you would like Unifi cameras. They are a good mix of quality and price and mine have been trouble free ever since I have owned them. I just upgraded but my old ones were still working fine!
@@ethernetblueprint thank you for replying and confirming what I understood. starting from scratch on home Networking knowledge and your videos and a few others have been everything for me and it's been fun and daunting at the same time. Hey I haven't seen anything in these home Networking guides or sorry if I haven't yet played the video if you cover this, for UPS , would you recommend unify RPS? Or any recommendations? Yeah I still don't know about the camera decision, I probably will phase that in later. I know I want the unify doorbell , 24/7 and package notification are important But the additional cameras, I'm not sold on it being worth the unify premium. And I find it might be enticing to steal or damage at that price. Also Unify doesn't seem to offer a 180 deg and its night vision capabilities isnt leading the pack either. I like idea of one platform, and premium vendor and maybe g5 ptz that moves to make up for the lack of 180... I don't know ...also I think floodlight with camera is extra addon but for cameras I'm not that into. More UA-cam watching ... Thank you again for your videos, great content
Thanks for the reply. To answer the question you asked, I don't know there is a reason for the RPS in a home. I typically use a UPS in my home for that. I do have a video on what I use and show how I got it online and monitor it... but its not part of the series...
Hi there. my current set up as follows... 10gbe speed internet /3rd party router with 3x2.5gbps lan ports and 1x10gbps lan port/ Ubiguiti's uckgen2+,switches,APs and cams. 1.Can I use this UCG max router connected directly to the ONT 10gbe? or 2.will it work if the UCG Max router is connected to the 3rd party router 2.5 gbps lan port?
So you have 10Gb internet? This device will not handle that speed and max's out at the 2.5Gb link speed. You could connect this device to your 3rd party router's 2.5Gb LAN port and it would work, yes. If you want to utilize that 10Gb link, you would want to look at the UDM Pro, SE or Pro Max routers which do have 10Gb links on them.
@@ethernetblueprint Hihi thank you for the prompt response! Fyi with my current set up, ie from the 3rd party router 10gbps lan port out to the unify switch, wifi was stable initially until like recently very unstable. So I switched to using the 2.5Gbps lan port from the 3rd party router and is working fine now. I am just wondering, was the issue of the initial 10gbe connection resulted in some bottleneck due to the switch port unable to handle 10gbps? If I upgrade to a udm or a switch that can handle 10gbps, would it solve the issue?
I hear you... I guess those are sacrifices on the "mini UDM Pro" devices... I'm betting that you can get a rack mount 3D printed...someone will design one at some point...
Cloud gateway max is the in case of an emergency break glass gateway for UDM owners. Or it's the one you get your parents because you manage their network.
I really would like to see a version of Cloud Gateway Max SE WiFi, with PoE and WiFi Build in. It can be selling at £500 and I will still willing to paid for it. But, I believe only PoE will be possible in the future version?
I have a 2g fiber link so this leaves performance on the table. Maybe with intrusion disabled it could do the 2g? Anyway just bought a udm-se, plus a pro max 16 Poe. Plan to do a dual WAN with 2g fiber main, with 300mbps cable backup.
This is a side move from the UDR. This model can run all the apps but has no POE ports and does have a clumsy power brick. I despise external bricks. They represent laziness on the part of the industrial designer that translates to a headache on my part. An upgraded UDR would have been better.
Wish they did an Express sized WiFI Access point ONLY without all the gateway stuff to marry with this. Yes, you can get one of the round ones but it looks better if all the devices look the same. Yes, you can run the Express in Access point only mode, but I better it would be cheaper if it was just an Access Point out the box.
Well the Unifi Express devices can be setup as APs with this device and you can turn off the gateway features - just in case you weren't aware of that. The U6 Mesh/FlexHD is also a table top model of AP.
They have the U7 Pro Wall, it even has a table stand as official accessory. i have also seen people placing the U6 In Wall on a phone holder instead of mounting it on the wall
Thanks for the video. I am new to ubiquity. I got the 1TB version of this. Will that store the recordings from future cameras or will I need a separate device?
@@ethernetblueprint wait, I just want to confirm I understand this correctly. This thing doesn't work as a router without an SSD in the slot? So why are they selling a non-storage $199 version? I was going to buy the $199 version to use as a router only.
Yes.. That will work.... It is a router that you can add storage to if you wanted to have it do cameras also. And if you decide you want to add cameras later, you can add storage to the $199 version and still do that down the road. I am waiting on the $199 version too!
Not many of the APs come with injectors anymore. So, it depends on the model you get. And I agree with you on the 10Gb networking however, there are MANY who would disagree with us.
If your netgear router has the ability to be put in AP mode, then you could connect it to one of the LAN ports and use it for WiFi. However Unifi works with Unifi products very well. In this scenario, you would have to program both of them individually and troubleshooting problems could be tricky.
Thanks for the comment. I have been asked this multiple times... I am waiting until I get fiber to my home so I don't have triple NAT happening... but yes, I plan on doing some VPN videos....
Its just a shame that it doesn't have 2 POE. I think for home users 1gb is enough for 1 device per port. The 2.5 gb really shines when with a u7 ap at 2.5 which might have 5+ devices sharing the band width allowing devices to not be bottle necked by a single 1gb port. Are there any child controls on Unifi at all? Also did you see that (although not really for home) there's a new king to replace the SE, the EFG at 10gb and cost of 2k, licence free it looks good!
You make good points here. Would be nice to have at least 1 POE port. As far as child controls, I will say "kinda". It depends on what your definition of that is and what features you are looking for. I use Firewalla in my home for that because I think it does a better job. I plan on doing a video on that soon.
I still love the UDR and think that it is a great unit. The fact that it has WiFi 6 is a huge bonus. It just isn't as strong of a contender for running Unifi Protect... so I don't think I would use it for cameras if I was planning on having more than 1... maybe for just a doorbell it would be good on the camera side... Whereas the Max has a lot more power to handle those other apps and still run security protection at the same time... It really depends on your setup and what you need the device to do.
Yet again, Ubiquiti announce a product that, while amazing, isn’t clearly located in their product roadmap… If only they announced a bunch of devices at once for a new gen - wouldn’t that be good (rather than this piecemeal way they go about it)
There is now the EFG. This Fortress Gateway is a UDM se replacement with 10gb and the new security analysis, which the basics of are subscription free!
I like your content. But if I want subtitles, I'll turn on subtitles. The flashing text is just distracting for me and I'd really prefer to be able to turn it off.
I hear you... I was experimenting a little and won't be adding that moving forward... still learning this UA-cam stuff.
I was waiting for you to make a video with your thoughts on this router! Thank you so much! I’ve been looking at this for my home to get started building out my home network 😁
Nice. I think it will work great for the standard home build... some cameras, some APs and even includes 2.5Gb networkiing... I love it!
Great video, thank you! Personally I don't like the short style speak text on the screen. That's what CC is for if you want it.
I didn't realize it was going to do both when I did that. I won't be doing that moving forward. Sorry about that. Still learning this UA-cam editing stuff...
ALWAYS appreciate your content!!
Wow... Thanks! That means a lot, truly!!!
I got my UCG Max yesterday - great device overall, but I have 1 complaint. It runs very hot - 75C on idle with just Network enabled.
One note to people that plan to get the no storage version - I got the upgraded 1TB version and what they sent me was actually the no storage version and the nvme was a separate package. The no storage version does not have the nvme tray - it just has a plug for the hole. The separate package with the drive actually has the tray with the drive, so if someone plans to add storage later has to buy it from Unifi or they will not be able to just plug in a drive in the device.
Reminds me of the unifi 8 port Poe switch I installed to power 5 Unifi LR AC access points for my friends church.
Always ran hot stopped working just outside of the warranty but ubuqiti honored the warranty and sent a new one, sadly that switch ran hot also and made it about 3 years before dying.
Had a Unfi 16 Port Poe switch still going today ran Luke warm at most
That is good to know. I really appreciate you letting us know. I plan to get the no storage version after it comes out so I can mess with it a bit.
Thank you! How many Applications can you run simultaneously? Some users say max. 2, is that true?
@salvatorefranco8356 Hi, it is not true, you can run all applications simultaneously on the UCG Max. The limitation of 2 apps is on the dream router.
I concur. @salvatorefranco8356 That is the UDR that has the limit... And it actually 3 now I believe if you had one. It was increased from 2 to 3 with a software update...
The Max is the one and only option for home pro-sumers. I already got one 😊 Now I'm just wating for an UniFi 8-port PoE 2,5G switch to match it!
I'm right there with you. I hope it is coming!
Ubiquity should be ashamed of themselves for not sending one of these to you for evaluation
HAHAHA... I agree! Shame on you Unifi. I don't know how big of a channel you need to be before they start doing that.
The lack of poe ports is a complete miss in my eyes. One of these with two ap's is what i put in my parents house with a couple of cameras but having to use poe injectors makes the setup look messy and needs too many outlets so then your into poe switches but they dont make a small afordable 2.5g poe switch. The udr would have been ideal for them but they are never in stock and really need an update. Unifi express would have likely worked for them if it had a few poe ports.
I’m still hoping they come up with a replacement for the UDR. Because, you’re right, that was a great solution for very small deployments, especially since it had POE.
Yeah the Poe inbuilt is quite important in a small deployment for keeping it a clean install. An updated udr with 4 2.5g Poe ports and wifi 7 would be perfect. Then you can run the udr at one end of the building, put a second AP at the other side of the building then run 2-3 cameras. My parents and brother have zero hard wired devices in their houses so some cameras and wifi7 would be perfect to future proof them.
We need reasonable ways to do 2.5gbe poe+. I had to get a way overkill switch to power my U6 enterprises I got used because nothing had 2.5 Poe
I consider buying this little piece of great network security. But there are still some questions I could not find an answer by now. My current setup is a Fritz!Box Router (wifi deactivated) with Netgear Orbi Mesh System (1 Router and two satellites) because I do not have LAN cables and ports all over my old house (1970s). Is there a chance to use this Netgear stuff in combination with this Unify gateway and manage it completely with it? Or do I definitely need Unify wireless access points? Which of them can be used to set up a Mesh wireless LAN system?
Thank you very much for your answer👍‼️
Why don't you email me at tim@ethernetblueprint.com and I will try to answer that way. I have questions before I can help you out... (make sure to mention this comment)
Hmm i plan to buy all my home networking stuff later in the year and starting from scratch...
And i fit the description you mentioned in video, a home business/prosumer
I want to have unify protect (doorbell) and maybe 2 cameras (still havent figured if ubiquity or other) + going to get NAS (leaning to synology) + a couple AP
I thought i had to get udm pro/se + poe switch but looks like can get this gateway max + poe switch
Looking forward to your next set videos to flesh this out some more , thanks for the update
You definately don't need the SE. This guy should handle what you mentioned just fine. I think you would like Unifi cameras. They are a good mix of quality and price and mine have been trouble free ever since I have owned them. I just upgraded but my old ones were still working fine!
@@ethernetblueprint thank you for replying and confirming what I understood. starting from scratch on home Networking knowledge and your videos and a few others have been everything for me and it's been fun and daunting at the same time.
Hey I haven't seen anything in these home Networking guides or sorry if I haven't yet played the video if you cover this, for UPS , would you recommend unify RPS? Or any recommendations?
Yeah I still don't know about the camera decision, I probably will phase that in later.
I know I want the unify doorbell , 24/7 and package notification are important
But the additional cameras, I'm not sold on it being worth the unify premium. And I find it might be enticing to steal or damage at that price. Also Unify doesn't seem to offer a 180 deg and its night vision capabilities isnt leading the pack either. I like idea of one platform, and premium vendor and maybe g5 ptz that moves to make up for the lack of 180... I don't know ...also I think floodlight with camera is extra addon but for cameras I'm not that into.
More UA-cam watching ...
Thank you again for your videos, great content
Thanks for the reply. To answer the question you asked, I don't know there is a reason for the RPS in a home. I typically use a UPS in my home for that. I do have a video on what I use and show how I got it online and monitor it... but its not part of the series...
Hi there. my current set up as follows... 10gbe speed internet /3rd party router with 3x2.5gbps lan ports and 1x10gbps lan port/ Ubiguiti's uckgen2+,switches,APs and cams.
1.Can I use this UCG max router connected directly to the ONT 10gbe?
or
2.will it work if the UCG Max router is connected to the 3rd party router 2.5 gbps lan port?
So you have 10Gb internet? This device will not handle that speed and max's out at the 2.5Gb link speed. You could connect this device to your 3rd party router's 2.5Gb LAN port and it would work, yes.
If you want to utilize that 10Gb link, you would want to look at the UDM Pro, SE or Pro Max routers which do have 10Gb links on them.
@@ethernetblueprint Hihi thank you for the prompt response! Fyi with my current set up, ie from the 3rd party router 10gbps lan port out to the unify switch,
wifi was stable initially until like recently very unstable. So I switched to using the 2.5Gbps lan port from the 3rd party router and is working fine now.
I am just wondering, was the issue of the initial 10gbe connection resulted in some bottleneck due to the switch port unable to handle 10gbps?
If I upgrade to a udm or a switch that can handle 10gbps, would it solve the issue?
I am probably ordering it, but the no spf and no rack mount adaptor bum me out some. don't 'need' 10gb but a 2-5gb fiber option would be sweet.
I hear you... I guess those are sacrifices on the "mini UDM Pro" devices... I'm betting that you can get a rack mount 3D printed...someone will design one at some point...
Cloud gateway max is the in case of an emergency break glass gateway for UDM owners.
Or it's the one you get your parents because you manage their network.
Sure. I can see that! I used the UDR at my folks place (which was small) and really liked it... hoping they come up with a replacement for it.
I really would like to see a version of Cloud Gateway Max SE WiFi, with PoE and WiFi Build in. It can be selling at £500 and I will still willing to paid for it. But, I believe only PoE will be possible in the future version?
That may be in the works... You just never know with Unifi...
I have a 2g fiber link so this leaves performance on the table. Maybe with intrusion disabled it could do the 2g?
Anyway just bought a udm-se, plus a pro max 16 Poe. Plan to do a dual WAN with 2g fiber main, with 300mbps cable backup.
Sounds like that may have been the best move. You have room to grow into the SE this way too if you increase your speed again more down the road.
This is a side move from the UDR. This model can run all the apps but has no POE ports and does have a clumsy power brick. I despise external bricks. They represent laziness on the part of the industrial designer that translates to a headache on my part. An upgraded UDR would have been better.
My hope is that it is still coming... maybe a WiFi 7 version with better storage options... ??? I dunno
Wish they did an Express sized WiFI Access point ONLY without all the gateway stuff to marry with this. Yes, you can get one of the round ones but it looks better if all the devices look the same. Yes, you can run the Express in Access point only mode, but I better it would be cheaper if it was just an Access Point out the box.
Well the Unifi Express devices can be setup as APs with this device and you can turn off the gateway features - just in case you weren't aware of that. The U6 Mesh/FlexHD is also a table top model of AP.
They have the U7 Pro Wall, it even has a table stand as official accessory.
i have also seen people placing the U6 In Wall on a phone holder instead of mounting it on the wall
@@kenchiu1987 interesting I’ll take a look at that, thanks.
Can I use this router in place of my ISP all in one Router/modem (T-mobile)
I don’t think so. It would have no way of talking to T-Mobile. You’d have to put it behind it.
Thanks for the video. I am new to ubiquity. I got the 1TB version of this. Will that store the recordings from future cameras or will I need a separate device?
It is your NVR so you should be good to go!! You’ll just need to activate UniFi Protect when you get your cameras.
@@ethernetblueprint thanks so much. I appreciate your response and your content.
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
Does it have to have storage in order for it to work even though I don't have nor need any cameras?
Nope... It does require the storage if you want to just use it as a router.
@@ethernetblueprint wait, I just want to confirm I understand this correctly. This thing doesn't work as a router without an SSD in the slot? So why are they selling a non-storage $199 version? I was going to buy the $199 version to use as a router only.
Yes.. That will work.... It is a router that you can add storage to if you wanted to have it do cameras also. And if you decide you want to add cameras later, you can add storage to the $199 version and still do that down the road.
I am waiting on the $199 version too!
My unifi access points each came with poe injectors. Completely negates your con. 10Gb networking for home. Silly point. Agree with the rest.
Not many of the APs come with injectors anymore. So, it depends on the model you get. And I agree with you on the 10Gb networking however, there are MANY who would disagree with us.
Is it possible for me to connect netgear router to this device or not . Thank you
If your netgear router has the ability to be put in AP mode, then you could connect it to one of the LAN ports and use it for WiFi. However Unifi works with Unifi products very well. In this scenario, you would have to program both of them individually and troubleshooting problems could be tricky.
Can you please make a video on VPN firewall rules? Thank you.
Thanks for the comment. I have been asked this multiple times... I am waiting until I get fiber to my home so I don't have triple NAT happening... but yes, I plan on doing some VPN videos....
Its just a shame that it doesn't have 2 POE. I think for home users 1gb is enough for 1 device per port. The 2.5 gb really shines when with a u7 ap at 2.5 which might have 5+ devices sharing the band width allowing devices to not be bottle necked by a single 1gb port. Are there any child controls on Unifi at all? Also did you see that (although not really for home) there's a new king to replace the SE, the EFG at 10gb and cost of 2k, licence free it looks good!
You make good points here. Would be nice to have at least 1 POE port. As far as child controls, I will say "kinda". It depends on what your definition of that is and what features you are looking for. I use Firewalla in my home for that because I think it does a better job. I plan on doing a video on that soon.
Did I make a mistake with the UDR?
I still love the UDR and think that it is a great unit. The fact that it has WiFi 6 is a huge bonus. It just isn't as strong of a contender for running Unifi Protect... so I don't think I would use it for cameras if I was planning on having more than 1... maybe for just a doorbell it would be good on the camera side... Whereas the Max has a lot more power to handle those other apps and still run security protection at the same time... It really depends on your setup and what you need the device to do.
Yet again, Ubiquiti announce a product that, while amazing, isn’t clearly located in their product roadmap…
If only they announced a bunch of devices at once for a new gen - wouldn’t that be good (rather than this piecemeal way they go about it)
I agree. I don't love how they go about this either. It does keep it interesting though!
How many smart home products can this router handle?
Plenty. Smart devices don’t generate much network traffic. I would say it could handle as many as you throw at it.
Yeah, without 10GbE, you can’t really replace the UDM Pro/SE, etc….
There is now the EFG. This Fortress Gateway is a UDM se replacement with 10gb and the new security analysis, which the basics of are subscription free!
It’s not intended as a UDM replacement. This product targets a different segment of the market - one where 10GbE isn’t a priority.
I agree with all these comments... I see this as a "mini UDM Pro", not a replacement.