Does ESP Reveal the Nonphysical? | Episode 111 | Closer To Truth
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Some claim that their scientific study of extrasensory perception, or parapsychology, overturns the worldview of science. Should we take these startling pronouncements seriously? Featuring interviews with Marilyn Schlitz, Charles Tart, Susan Blackmore, Rupert Sheldrake, Dean Radin, and Michael Shermer.
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I have a really strange experience that has “haunted” me most of my life. When I was about 7 years old, my family was traveling via an airport in Spain. I had never been there, but when my father asked my mother if she had seen a place where we could buy something to drink. I told him that that’s a bar just around the corner “ 50 meters away and impossible to see”. Remember pulling my fathers hand and pulling him in the direction, he just went along laughing, but when we turned around the corner, my father looked at me and said, how did you know that. We have spoken about this episode through out the years, but neither of us understands it. The strange thing was that I just knew.
I’m turning 50 this year and have spent my life in mathematics, having a background in cybernetics. During my last years I have had some more time on my hands, after the kids moved out, and I went back to the University studying quantum physics( just taking a few classes as a hobby)
During this time I have been studying quantum entanglement and quantum field theory and since two particles have been proven scientifically to have a way of influencing each other. ( Einstein’s spooky action over a distance).
I must raise the question, and even though I’m perhaps making dots that are not there. Is not quantum entanglement a “proof” of a natural occurring example of ESP ?
I admit that I have become a bit more open minded, or perhaps just experienced the Dunning/Kruger effect, which has only made me a bit more humble in the way that the more I know, the more I come to understand how little I know.
So perhaps noetic sciences should have its legitimacy.
Thank you for sharing your journey.
I think that if there is such a thing as ESP, quantum entanglement must surely be the key to it!
I'm still skeptical however. I believe that many people have experiences like the one you had. But it's so hard to properly understand with such a dearth of scientific reproducibility...
Thanks for sharing 😊
@@KalebPeters99 The problem with scientific reproducibility is that the universe is not reproducible. Neither is the life of any human being or of any sentient being that has ever been alive.
That's really not that strange. Kids say odd stuff and sometimes its right.
Interesting story and your point about quantum entanglement too.
"Does ESP reveal non-physical" is an a priori prejudiced tittle.
It's as though already assuming Dualism before examining evidence
A day with full episode upload = A good day.
The physical reality is just a level or a dimension of reality, not reality itself...
I used to be rather closed-minded on concepts such as ESP (as well as out of body experiences / NDEs/ Lucid Dreams) UNTIL I had such an experience myself. I have since had many Lucid Dreams, an out of body experience and often sense things are going to happen which then do. So now I know how important it is to keep an open mind.
Lucid dreams have nothing to do with the other things you've mentioned. Lucid dreams are a known and very studied phenomenon. There are no scientists claiming that lucid dreams are not real.
@@tac6044 my point is , many would say lucid dreams are not real or indeed not possible..I thought that myself a number of years ago until I had many such experiences , so that's my fundamental point, that people need to keep an open mind regarding such phenomena.
I'm open minded, but until I don't get any objective proof, i can't say it's true
brains hallucinate. that's what they do. to an extent some start believing in phenomena like esp without evidence. there's plenty of science done on lucid dreaming these days.
@@eriksaari4430 my experiences were definitely not hallucinations.
Woo hoo! The graphics! The questions! This channel is, evolving
Still amazed that thinkers are always in darkened rooms. Must be a thing
@@roostfezza7563 limiting the amount of information that reach your senses through light might decrease distraction
Lawrence can listen seriously to people go on and on about gods and angels, but find this subject totally unbelievable. His expressions and non verbal language are hilarious in this.
One of my favourite moments of CTT was when Rob said "...but building a reality based on quantum mechanics? (Chuckle) Well I'm not so sure!" One can debate how to _interpret_ quantum mechanics, but to not believe quanta underlies the atomic is something else entirely! Hilarious!
Im curious I'm here to understand why is cern doing the things it's doing
@@thelastgreatpoet5219 discovering the building blocks of the universe would seem to be a worthy endeavor.
@@petermartell568 to.?
@@thelastgreatpoet5219 to what?
After having a family church outing last Sunday with breakfast and reminiscing about St Patrick day partying afterwards including at my brothers restaurant who died couple years ago. Later same afternoon at home Alexa in a quiet house with all of us sitting there said and in capital letters
”Did you mean Off The Hook” and repeated it.
His restaurant! This stuff happens when you don’t look for it and to many of us who have lost a bunch it happens often and is not shocking just heartwarming and funny. We want to delve into mystery but do need need the proof of more out there - we know it to be so.
We are more connected than most of the people realize. There is no I.
You are me and I am you, theoretically the only objective “I” is the idea of awareness, information inputs of something - the first had “chemical over here” senses only.
if there is no "i" then you shouldn't have any issue sending me all of your money in your bank account. Somehow i doubt you'll send me any money though, contradicting yourself
We are each a portion of the whole. The "I" thought is a reflection of your distinct reality.
Save your bullets
No, there is an “I” cut your hand tonight, not only will it not cause me, or anyone else pain, myself and the rest of the world won’t be aware it happened
If ESP was true it wouldn't be unphysical, otherwise it would have no physical effect on anything.
Right. Similar to physics laws.
The physical is essentially unphysical. Consciousness can interact with matter because matter is an expression of consciousness. Physical objects are concepts with enough detail to touch.
We’re energy. Everything is energy.
Interesting slant at 24:27. How do we broach this subject without the woo? Perhaps, the entangled self? I've often wondered how my dreams seem so real, as if I was experiencing from the perspective of another mind-body. Perhaps we are more entangled than we realize? Like Shermer, I'm a skeptic of woo. But maybe there exists something beyond our immediate experience of space and time, which needs to be factored in. Maybe ESP is more subtle, yet more pervasive, than traditionally understood. Maybe our dreams are more representative of the workings of ESP. If so, then ESP is something to listen to, not something to control. Some kind of synthesis of Sheldrake, culture, entanglement, Jung, the collective unconscious and all that.
I've had precognitive dreams when I was younger. And I mean precognitive dreams, not deja vu. I would literally dream a couple of seconds, frame by frame, of what would happen in the future. Now, I don't mean it was something extraordinary nor do I think that it is a proof for anything. But I like to personally think of it that way.
I had a similar experience. When I was a teenager I was the backseat passenger of a bad car accident. About three months prior to that I had a vivid dream of about 5 seconds of time before impact. In real- time I saw that 5 seconds play out but it wasn't enough time to realize the outcome. I could have prevented the accident.
As much as I wish to know the future, I just can't accept it's possible in reality.
That dream still baffles me though.
Ever wonder why it's always only a few seconds?
This has happened to me over a dozen times and it make me think it has something to do with multiple dimensions of time of something
@@Learn2DriveNYC I have no idea. But at the same time, these few seconds are always very distinct. So for example somebody say says a sentence while you look at a particular item; neither the person, the topic or the thing you're looking at are ever combined in this configuration. And while that happens, you are totally amazed as you know what will happen but you also don't believe in what is happening so you don't interfere. If it would happen to me on regular basis, I would try to interfere.
I wish we could find a way to trigger that kind of a dream, so that it could perhaps be tested in some way.
@@romanholder5621 to see something that occurs in the future, that would mean your present is actually the past because the event would have already occured. . 🥴
Thanks for asking this question. I am curious as to what inspired you to ask this specific one.
That's easy. Unanswerable questions that attract woo-woo peddlers means more seasons of CCT.
@@con.troller4183 maybe, or maybe not. In the end what really mattered anyway except the way in which we lived. And maybe that's because we gave it reason. to ponder this question would be just as good as any.
@@con.troller4183 Good point.
The search for something beyond this reality isn't new (See religion ). But it always comes up short on credibility.
Words can mislead. "Is there something beyond reality?" Definitely not, because if it's unreal it's unreal, it's not there. "Is there some form of unusual sensory phenomenon as yet unexplained by our current, and limited knowledge of consciousness, but otherwise based in reality?" Quite a different question.
@@chriscantor6852
At this point, I don't think there will ever be new insights that will add any credibility to the paranormal. It's always been more fraud than science.
So let's say we do unleash paranormal abilities. That would really be messed up. Apes with super powers. 🙄 That's not a world I would want too live in.
Can't we just be happy with the short time we have here ? But, no ! We want it too be more than it is. Like this reality isn't impressive enough as it is. That for some reason we deserve more than our blink. Even putting us above the natural laws that we are bound to. 🙄
It comes up short on credibility to those who haven’t examined the data. To those who have examined the first class, peer reviewed laboratory data the reality of psi is overwhelming. Please look at Dean Radin’s research if you are truly interested. What is interesting to me are those who make blanket statements like yours never look at the data…& those who look at the data never make blanket statements like your…or hold their breath like Michael Sherman and proclaim it isn’t true because it can’t be. There is more evidence for psi than there is for the Higgs Boson particle.
@@LiteShaper1
There is more evidence for fairies than there is for the paranormal.
There is probably a good reason why he is considered fringe even
in the paranormal community. His connecting of neuroscience and quantum interactions is a pretty shaky foundation to build on.
And of course the answer is always in the next layer down. 🤔
Since you can't seem too repeat, what seems to be very random events, in a controlled environment.
I don't see how credible evidence will ever get
complied.
@@thomasridley8675 So - you haven’t looked. You just feel compelled to make unfounded dogmatic generalities regurgitating opinions of other myopic materialists who haven’t looked. Good job on the Googling. Your statement reflects you have little respect for science.
Sheldrake's morphogenetic fields are an interesting approach to how reality (time, space, etc.) is structured.
@@thesystem6246 Everything is connected to everything.
@@thesystem6246 Your one-step theory sounds interesting. How do you define "steps" in this context?
Trouble is all the dreams about loved ones where you contact them and, _nope, they're fine_ never gets talked about. Testimonials are not evidence.
21:02 I have been wondering this. Is there anywhere else where information can be stored besides a human or animal brain? Like how magnetic hard drives use magnetization? Or how we can now store information in crystal using light which lasts even longer. This could explain why we can't really remember our past lives, if such a thing, with the exception of some remnants of that past existence since most of that went with the brain?
If not, how could any information be converted or carried over though multiple existences *if* this is how things supposedly work?
As far as science is concerned, the brain is not special in the sense that it is made of the same atoms that make up everything. The atoms just happen to be arranged in a very special configuration that allows the brain to work as it works. Given enough time for our tech to advance, we should be able to reproduce an exact copy of a active human brain. At that point, there is no reason to believe such a brain will not generate consciousness and memories.
DNA is data, its a record.
Atoms are data types, variables & as mentioned here, arrangement of atoms, like arrangement of letters create something.
@@kentdavidge6573 dr. wilder penfield one of the pioneer in canadian neurosurgery who mapped brain to treat epilepsy and studied human brain for 30 years was convinced that there is nothing more to consciousness than just brain at the beginning of his career became dualist at the end of his significant career he published "the white paper" on why he argues that there is more to consciousness than brain, its an interesting read. and on a completely unrelated note i have some experiences that absolutely convinced me that there is something more to consciousness than just physical reality and conventional science can never duplicate consciousness
Paper
@@longcastle4863 😂 That might work with clones.
My esp experience; as a young man (about 18 yrs, now 72 yrs) I developed a friendship with a guard dog , on the top of a fence that separated us. This unlikely bond went on for weeks, until I felt an intense feeling of unexplained anger or fear within me. The moment I felt this way, the dog growled at me and I lost his trust. I was to afraid later to try and reconnect. Did the dog pick up some chemical clues, or was it something else. I just don't know, but something happened that the dog picked up on. Was it fear/anger emanating from me? I have heard dogs can sence these things, but how?
They are more open to it than we are
The dog could smell you. 🤢
@Gil the dog just knew..that some little kid was going to annoy him again..woof...predictable. 😁
Martin. Its esp Gil, because I knew you were going to send me that message!
@@wordzfailmebro . My wife says I should shower more to.
During my army days,a fellow soldier who passed away in an accident told his sister that he had a feeling that something is going to happened to him and he feels uneasy on the last weekend he went home.His sister relate this to my mother and she told me about it.
I like the field theory. There may be something there. A field created through familiarity and psychological attachment is evolutionarily rational.
A good line of thinking to pursue.
collapsing the wave function in quantum mechanics is One good example .
another is placebo effect .
Are there neural correlates or other brain activity for ESP?
I'm a Baby boomer I never did any drugs Tried weed dont like it don't like being in big rock concerts but I'm comfortable at a concert at the Phil Harmonic Hall Was A music major etc & a nd eployed in stores like hobby shops etc I'm a divorced dad
I've had experiences ,of precognition many times from when I was very young. Telepathy etc Even hauntings
But the phenomenon is not described as I've seen here in the media
Do we survive death?
I don't really know at all
But the poltergeist experience I've had including with a family member to them was real,
At the time of the event I said nothing and let them tell me the experience they had. Then had at the time the New York Psychical center come over I had cassette tapes of the sound Was no pest critters. My cat and dog was alerted before mr.
I don't meditate or pick cards anything like that to improve any ability if I do have I don't know what is
And I'm not religious at all
This famous Long Island psychi ,and John Edwards all of them to me are full of it.
I myself am kind of a skeptic myself about a lot of subjects
That's why I'm subscribed to this channel
I really dont know how the brain works But we are creatures to me the same as animals
I'm sure the brain warns us of danger ahead of time
But Maybe some people dont acknowledge the warning?
Still a mystery to me
I do believe where I came from is where I'll return to after my demise
Entanglement is normal in science & its beyond time or it's instant time travel of information/data,
just as person to person connections & transfer of some type of information/data through mind to mind is normal & scientific, however creating the identical parameters to recreate such experiences are difficult, as no 2 life situations are identical.
However in the book "Beyond Telepathy" there's explanations of what chemicals are present in the brain when certain ESP occurs & that IMHO in conjunction with meditation would be a solid foundation for research.
Please do new interviews.
Could ESP be done through quantum fields? Phenomenon like clairvoyance and the others sound like might be quantum in nature?
I am leaning that way. I am going to look more into the Field Theory mentioned here.
Keep digging. Everything is vibration & potential. Tesla said it was light, but what did he know... ;-)
My two experiences were not done by me, they happen to me like a lightning strike, they were shocking. I do not believe that you do telepathy or that you are a precoge, it is something that happens to you, that is out side your control. I do not know why, or how it happened to me.
@michael shortland Jewish American asked God to guide him to the correct religion that is accepted by God, please watch this it was a miracle in the broad daylight how God guide him to Islam, ua-cam.com/video/3Y8Tr8-bSx4/v-deo.html
@michael shortland Identical miracle reported by U.S corporal in marine went to Afghanistan, ua-cam.com/video/1ogm2ILpy9s/v-deo.html It was indeed miracle in the broad daylight, which turned him to Islam, watch and learn.
The closest I came to esp was the prediction that my house would burn down at 4.a.m.on christmas night in the year 1990
I told my immediate family of a vision I had about what I saw when I looked outside the window at the fresh snow.
I was 100% correct in my prediction we lost everything except our lives that night as our house burned.
Our tenant in the basement dropped a lit cigarette in the couch which smoldered and ignited
That's because you burnt down your house
...... And if you didn't I can guarantee you that's what your family thinks in the back of their mind
Had two out-of-body experiences back as a teen. In my 60s now. First while under emotional duress, the other not so much so. Both happened during sleep without conscious provocation. Never able to replicate them later on in life with conscious provocation. Still, they happened (as far as I'm concerned). Not scientifically verifiable at all. Not useful in day-to-day life, either. Just very interesting happenings. ps: During my attempts, it was still fun taking over my dreams and doing whatever I wanted within the dream world. But was never able to break out into the "real" world...whatever that is. ;) Expanded dimensionality may be something to ponder.
we are deluged with stimuli from many sources from radio waves to neutrinos. As well, each of us has a singular array that is mediated by 450 quadrillion neural connections. Most of the stimuli is filtered out in the reticular activation system and do not reach the level of consciousness, perhaps with the exception of the dream state. A very interesting area of study. As you have learned elements of dream control, you have the gift of entering your own dreamscape. I found it to be largely symbolic (read emotionally laden.) Enjoy it
I can relate to this experience. I used to be very closed minded on the notion of Out of Body Experiences UNTIL I had one myself. And now my viewpoint has utterly changed and I laugh at those who call me crazy. I do not need their input. I know what happened to me was real. More real than my waking consciousness.
@@Dion_Mustard "More real than my waking consciousness." that just about says it all
@@petermartell568 by this I mean my current state of consciousness, the one I am experiencing now, is less-lucid than my out of body and lucid dream states. These other experiences are on a whole different level of awareness. So I know consciousness is more than brain. I used to be like you (a cynic and closed minded) until I had these experiences, and now I laugh at those whom mock me.
@@petermartell568 Haven't done dream control in over 10 years now. It was fun and interesting (and frustrating) for the years I did it, though. I definitely think that out-of-body "events" most-often require more than the usual and mundane "ego-conscious" instigation. Being young and flexible probably helps, too, perhaps.
That’s silly… I have seen two kids who were inseparable talking to each other in their sleep and neither remembered it when they were told.
Excellent!
9:22 for mind and brain matter to interact via clairvoyance or psychokinesis the process would fall outside traditional causation. What would the process be made up of? A statement about a process that is unintelligible e is hard to demonstrate.
I have a novel sixth sense...a BS detector and in the absence of serious and convincing evidence it tingles when I here these anecdotes and wild claims.
There are probably lots of people who fool themselves or others, but just because something is anecdotal evidence, doesn't mean that you can just dismiss it.
With regard to the contention that there is an “absence of serious and convincing evidence” - this is simply not true - & unfortunately this segment did not make an authentic effort to actually look at the data. Both Dean Radin and Charles Tart have first class laboratory, peer reviewed evidence (not anecdotes and wild claims) for the reality of these phenomenon. There is more evidence for the existence of psi phenomenon than there is for the Higgs Boson particle.
It really is unfortunate the dogmatic, knee jerk, emotionally anchored response from those who refuse to honestly look at the data because they just “believe” it can’t be true.
Good video Robert. As for ESP I can only say I've had maybe 10-15 events over my 74 years that I can't explain. A few prophetic dreams, and a few incidents where I've received information that just pops into my head and then is confirmed within a few seconds or minutes through some other method. Like I said, very difficult to explain and certainly not a thing that I can control at will. I can understand your search for answers to such questions as I too ponder such things. Please keep the great programs coming!
10-15 events in 74 years is not so often that it could be just be a case of coincidence. Several times (before cell phones) the person I was calling was already on the line. Just finely tuned coincidence.
Thanks for posting. Know thy soul. I recently finished this book by Rabbi Dr. Shmuel Asher, Soul Revolution. It reveals science vs. religion, lost and hidden knowledge of the soul and your existence. How you are being controlled. I could not put it down. I found it on Amazon.
I’m followed by a very specific set of numbers that always tend to reveal itself when I’m “in tune” (as I call it). Things seem to work out, it’s like I’m in my correct energy lane.
groovy
Food for thought:. What if there was a Big jump in our evolution. Humans develope the means to sent and received radio waves. We could literally transfer thoughts. What do you think? Plausible?
It's mag fields and the concentration of magnetic strings of force.
I sat in a huge substation circuit breaker control room with a monster step down transformer, standing next to it
I was doing relay calibration.
After about 20 mins I had odd thoughts of my brother and then an old friend from younger years.
Then I thought I was hearing a voice, I walked outside, no one no where absolutely,, calm and quit.e
I had an odd strange feeling over my skin after an hour.
Once I was done left the compound , all the strange thoughts out of nowhere stopped and the distant slurred voice's stopped and was all right again.
Magnetic field string lines of force passing thru the circuits of the brain and inducing current flow.
This odd stuff changed as I rotated my brain changing the angle o and induction of current in my brain, and thus the different extra perceptions or false perseptions.
Same as when the planets line up and mag field of our star condenses thru the matter and makes people feel different.
another outstanding episode thank you !
Are there any significant changes to energy or time during ESP experience? Is there any other relevant information from ESP experience(s)?
What happens when use methods of psychology on ESP phenomena?
Maybe personal experience of ESP can be better investigated through language and logic?
The issue with that is the subjective experience though subjectively valid cannot by any objective measures of science be validated. Thats' the issue with the mind body problem. Also just because a person can "experience" something does not mean it holds and weight on the reality of the situation.
Why is it that when we remember a have precognition dream it's always a terrible nightmare about a bad situation that always comes true.
Most of my precognitive dreams are about good things or just everyday banal things.
"Physical" is a catch-all term. If it exists it is "physical". The opposite of physical is imaginary.
Physical just means concepts with full detail. If everything was physical, knowledge would be impossible.
@@PaulHoward108 We don't have the full details about anything. We have no idea what an electron is. We only know how it behaves.
@@jackarmstrong5645 Everything is explained in the Vedas. There is even a quantum theory in the Vedas, called Vaiśeṣika. It treats objects as symbols of meanings. That would include electrons.
@@PaulHoward108 Very funny.
@@jackarmstrong5645 So continue not knowing.
I believe the ordinary world is amazing. I don´t understand the search for things beyond the rich reality we perceive
ESP works, because casinos have to constantly change their games to thwart psychics from winning too much. Hee hee hee, ha ha.
Please discuss EVP too (Electronic Voice Phenomena)
The subconscious is where we’re all connected. The subconscious is shared oneness with all who are conscious. It evolved over time and may or may not be eternal.
Science or scientific method is not based on experience or anecdotes. It is based on repeatable, controlled experiments. Of course subjects experiencing some phenomena can be part of experiments that try to study the experience.
Coincidences do happen. We do not notice non-coinscidences.
Evolution of the hyoid resulted in great changes. Consider phenomenological truth as a gift. Enlightenment? Don't know what it is - Van Morrison
Consider swarm phenomena: These are best explainable by morphic fields.
Tell us about what will happen if esp exist
It sounds like Sue could have used Rupert's help in designing her experiments
Congrats on the Channel. Have you ever interviewed Alan Lightman? I don't see him around the videos... I think he could be of much value to your series. Cheers from Mexico City!
She. Is on spot. dreams are not empirical, however it is intuition 😊
Even physics is hinting that there are more "realities" multiverses in addition to this physical world. Religious people have always believed in spiritual realities that can be accessed via our spiritual being. Furthermore they believe in a supernatural world they call heaven/paradise/nirvana/etc. If such world's exist, there is no reason why spiritual beings like souls which inhabit them cannot communicate with us from time to time.
Even if true; the existence other universes; ...
...does Not mean you have a soul....!
Sue, it's a gift from God and I think you're mad that you don't have it or don't recognize it for some reason.
I am involved with the field for over an two decades and conducted about thirty investigations and found no evidence for the parapsychological phenomena..
You were probably looking for the wrong things.
Everything within is the truth, everything outside of you is a lie, ,,to me ESP is higher self awareness. Purity in cognitive thinking. Transparency in the truth.
What is non physical? I can't imagine what that would be.
physical means it has substance; can be felt. Radio waves would likely be considered non physical I imagine. So do we as humans have abilities to perceive outside of the audio & visual spectrum? That would be non physical. And what else could we perceive outside of what we've already found through science? Is the universe a storehouse of information, which is embedded in it's structure. I could imagine it being a consciousness unto itself.
@@creatorgenerator1998 So you're saying that unless it falls within the limitations of human sensory perception it's non physical? That seems like a pretty non relevant criteria. Especially since everything is energy at its most fundamental level.
by the way: the last irrational one became skeptic about his skepticism lately ! they wanted this existence to be easy peasy to fit their little irrational minds! but it is not so.
All the Episodes indicate to a single point...." We don't know anything yet!!!"
God -- We don't know anything yet
Multiverse -- We don't know anything yet
Other dimensions -- We don't know anything yet
Souls --We don't know anything yet
Divine or Design ---We don't know anything yet
Aliens -- We don't know anything yet
What is the purpose of us and universe? -- We don't know anything yet
We don't know nothing yet about anything !!!
🙂🙂
but the quest goes on as we humans are curious to know and define everything!!!
Sound like the one professor smoke something a bit more than just cannabis that night. 😂
Can quantum mechanics be used to test ESP phenomenon?
A double slit experiment has been done, published. But the conclusions are rubbished by other scientists.
There's lots on YT regarding your question. Observation of the double split experiment is at the core of it. I'd suggest starting there.
WoWoW!!
Does ESP require something more than science to investigate?
Probably.
Science investigates repeatable events most of the time, or at least, data that has been captured such as a supernova explosion, etc. Many ESP events are not repeatable or created to order. Consequently, they do not tend to produce conclusive statistical results.
yes.
These things will not happen when you try consciously .. it will happen when YOU are not there
the irrational said: they interact through a kind of clairvoyance and psychokinesis ! and what is clairvoyance and psychokinesis ! the irrationals have metal defection no doubt !
"still too early to study such a phenomena scientifically, right now just keep science clean."
Saying that scientists disagree with Sheldake is silly. Sheldrake is a scientist! Many other scientists do disagree with a sheldrake, in fact they even disagree with the results of his experiments??? Hence the dogma.
People who are emotionally entangled work best
ESP/'paranormal' = woo-woo
Because if it hasn’t happened to you, it doesn’t exist.
@@KAT-dg6el That's a good response.
@@KAT-dg6el no, but if there is no evidence of it anywhere, then it is likely woo-woo.
No "psychic" has ever been able to show that they had any powers ever.
All of this is true for me and others too, yes
Susan Blackmore didn't know how to perform PSI tests as well as others, such as Tart, Targ, Sheldrake, Stevenson, Radin, etc. Also, she doesn't take into account the NDEs experienced by blind people. How does she explain their veridical visual experiences?
H’mmmmm!? “The water droplet in the ocean is all in the Holistic volume”.... “The Ocean droplet is in the trillions of Electromagnetic waves” “Conscious Perception is Unlimited the droplet is Infinite”! ? The Mind (Conscious) is the Ocean. “Human Consciousness is realising that Perception is The droplet and Unlimited in Content”!?
I have to totally disagree with the skeptic magazine guy, the guy is so ignorant so that his just assumed there's no paranormal. Because fundamentally we are all connected in intangible field of universe of cosmos consciousness (the source that manifest our physical reality that we believed it's the only reality our world). Where is our physical reality is only a temporary world manifest from the only real world (the cosmo consciousness) that we refer as non physical world.
If you can't find the non-physical using ordinary perception, you're making a mistake. Which of your five senses enable you to perceive thoughts, knowledge, intentions, and morals?
This gets to the heart of the matter which really isn't esp. It's the afterlife. Is there evidence? One unexplained event might be enough to prove it. Even if esp is real it doesn't answer the question. Take the humans out of it and it might. Robert needs to talk to Ghost hunters and see if he can witness a poltergeist first hand. But even that might not do it. Evidence would need to include intelligence, or as they put it, information along with a metaphysical act. If I see my name magically being written on a pad by a pencil with nobody holding it, that would make me a believer.
Hey Mr skeptic explain the multiple multiple times i had deja Vu
I Don't have more doubts
We are millenary spirits
In new edition.
Essa não é a primeira vez que estamos aqui.
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It sounds more like she did hallucinogens in the 70’s and was just saying “she smoked some marijuana…” for the cameras
Sue is mixed up. She had a paranormal experience to get her into the field but her own experience did not count as anything. Wow what a scientist, she had an objective experience and decided no proof existed for her. What a joke:) I have had about 50,000 students over the last 42 years of teaching adult students. I always asked how many of you know your Mom is going to call at least 5 minutes before she called. There were always 2 or 3 people in an average class of 50 people that expressed their answer to the class as "it always happens to me". It always happened to me when my mom was alive. These were random calls at random days and random times.
A THOUSANDS YEARS AGO , E.S.P ,PRECOGNITION ,REMOTE VIEW ,AND MORE MENTAL ABILITY ,WERE CURRENTS , AND NORMAL ABILITIES . THIS WAS THE ONLY HUMAN WEAPONS ,,,,,,
Don’t dreams break the laws of physics?
8:40 this extends to the level of human beings connecting to the earth. Emotions are telec recursion of nature (reality). 🤞
"The attitude of biologists to teleology is like that of the pious towards a source of temptation which they are unsure of their ability to resist." -SPM
I just amazes when I hear obviously smart people discount any possibility that there may be alternate states of reality that science can't yet explain. It's literally the same exact mistake that every scientist ever has made.
yep.
Sigh. This comes across more of a well orchestrated hit job than a genuine search for the truth.
For example, Dean Radin has over 4 decades of LEGIT TEST DATA which was conveniently absent from this video & therefore not explored. It also lumped him in with people who slant this field toward being fake. (Materialists). Effectively pushing him & his work to the fringe, along with Sheldrake, for whom I also have great respect. These are the two people who ARE increasing our understanding of this field. Some people cannot handle having their beliefs challenged. It terrifies them. So they seek to discredit those who present science based facts that do so. This video is subtle, but that's what I gather after watching it.
Such people have to debunk them so they can keep THEIR beliefs intact rather than change. Is that not called denial or cognitive dissonance?
For those reading this comment, do your own research. I did. I got the opposite result. (So it's down to follow the money I guess.)
Do NOT be influenced by people like this who are good at manipulating others, creating their reality in your mind. Clever, but I see through it. Do you?
Is there a hidden agenda trying to keep the woo-woo factor alive, the giggles factor alive, so people stay away from this field, afraid they'll be ridiculed too if associated with it or for believing in it's truth? That's been the mantra with the UFO phenomenon for decades. (That field has been so buried under disinformation, ridicule, threats & intimidation that even I can't fathom THAT truth.)
P.S. Watch the documentary 'Third Eye Spies' and understand that WE ALL HAVE THIS ABILITY!
However, with all of us living constantly under stress, oppressed, living in fear, conflict, divided, distracted and in economic debt etc., it serves to suppress the ability. Has that been by design? I dunno. Perhaps ask the Indian Gurus who live with this ability daily.
(Sigh! I guess suppression is better than being persecution, ostracized or murdered as we all learned went on throughout history regarding the gifted soothsayers, witches, prophets etc.).
Ironically, an outcome of verification, acceptance & implementation is that we'd know when people are behaving badly. No more secrets. Peace. Think on that a while.
Although I like this show. The questions and the people, especially in Philosophy.
My main problem is: When someone gives an argument or reason for their views which contradict the common view. The host just says the census of philosophers or scientists or whatever reject this view. And then goes on.
But he never asks why they reject the view.
Scientists have biases. They have dogmas. From which they reject things that go against these dogmas for no good reason. Maybe ask them why do you reject this view and see if they can come up with a good answer.
My intuition says most of the times they probably can't. Especially scientists, since they are so extremely dogmatic for the most part.
How could something exist and be nonphysucal? Intrauniversal extracausal intercontinuous.
I once (in 1995 or 1996) had a pair of scissors dematerialize from and rematerialize on my desk.
I was 23 or 24, still attending university and living with my parents, and was behind closed door in my room (10th floor apartment) and was using scissors to cut tape and then hop on the chair to isolate some areas above my window with the said tape.
I would cut the tape, leave scissors on my desk (only a clock radio and the scissors were on the desk), hop on the chair, apply tape and hop down for more tape.
Then I noticed the scissors were missing from the surface of the desk after jumping down from the chair one time.
I stared at the scene for a few seconds, trying to figure it out. The scissors were there just 30 seconds ago when I put them on the desk and now they’re not.
I looked around the floor, then back at the desk. Nothing. I took the clock radio and moved it to the floor then used the entire length of my bare arm to sweep the entire surface of the desk right to left, thinking that if my eyes are lying to me at least something may bump into my arm or drop to the floor.
Nothing.
The scissors were not with me in that room any more.
I was pretty perplexed.
Then I went and called my mother who was away in the kitchen to ask her if she may have snuck in while I was working near the ceiling and taken the scissors.
She had no idea what I was talking about.we both looked around my room for 5 minutes, growing more perplexed.
Then when we were just standing in the center of the room talking about how very weird his was, she turned around and looked toward the desk and said: “Oh look!”, pointing at the desk: the scissors were there in the center of the desk, in the same position I remember leaving them in.
Where were they for about 5-10 minutes? Or when were they?
This to me, along with one or two other, smaller oddities over the years, revealed the glitchy nature of our otherwise very complex world/simulation.
Some years back I read a story by someone online, or maybe it was a youtube video, where they related a very similar case: a youth was working with scissors up in their room and put the scissors away for a second then couldn’t find it when they look for it.
Then the guy goes downstairs into The living room to ask parents if they took it and after some talking and looking around they actually found it downstairs - at a spot directly below where it would have been if it stayed upstairs.
Glitchy world.
This is the episodes where all the nut jobs come out of the woodwork
Coming soon.. 5G-ESP! 👍
You've took a wrong turn of the road to truth with this one buddy.
Did you mean you've taken?
@@tac6044 fhukorf
Don’t tell schizophrenics about ESP. 🙂
Susan Blackmore has been a hard skeptic for decades not the last few years, not the last six. She was often on uk shows debunking anything and often talking about her bad drug trip as proof that there is no near death experience. Her approach to science and parapsychology as always annoyed me.
Rupert Sheldrake gives me hope that science is not as blinked and narrowminded as it has been for many years. The basic fact is, is that we don't know how the universe and physics 100% work and function. You can have particals that can communicate over vast areas through entanglement and we don't know how still. How can we say something that is paranormal just be wrong. How do animals with no talking ability work together? maybe the development of speech has ment we lost some sort of ability where we can communicate at a differenet level which animals still use to some degree. quantum fields could also be involved in how things we deem paranormal actual exist, or maybe dimensions of things we can not even understand could explain a lot. hell even the matrix idea of the universe being a simulation would explain a lot too.
There is nothing wrong with being a bit skeptical about things, but to just dismiss something as wrong without trying to examine why and all the possibilites first, is to me is bad science.
"......
Evidently destructive and prone to serious error and endemic uncertainty, modern rationality can hardly be deemed the quiddity of humanity, as the moderns have come to believe. The essence of humanity and that which separates humans from animals are rather the attribute of ethics (al-akhlāqiyya), a quality from which all characteristics of the humans qua humans, including rationality, derive . It is ethics, not rationality, that distinguishes the human from the animal, for the latter does enjoy a rational faculty, however inferior it is to man’s. It follows then, Taha tells us, that there are two major types of rationality, one devoid of ethical content, and thus shared by man and animal, and another that is guided (musaddad) by ethics and is uniquely characteristic of humans, making them what they are. Yet the modernists reject such a division, insisting on denuded reason as the form that drives modern thinking about the world. A survey of modernity’s schools of ethics (Intuitionism, Naturalism, Absolutism, Relativism, and so on) reveals what Taha calls “intellectual chaos” (fawḍā fikriyya) that has plagued Western moral philosophy. Each school claims to have arrived at its ethical doctrine exclusively through rational methods, but this very multiplicity of claims to rationality is the most evincive demonstration of their incoherence. The incoherence stems from the fact that, as products of the same modern place and time, these schools with their diverse doctrines not only cannot all be true individually; they must stand in their totality as a mass of contradictions. Yet, contradiction and incoherence are, by virtue of these modernists’ own acknowledgment and insistence, the very stuff of irrationality. In order to escape this dilemma, they must each, in turn, admit that their form of rationality is merely one of many, and that these rationalities are by no means exhaustive, leaving the distinct possibility that there are other ways of rationalizing the world that they have not considered....."
Source: Excerpt from *Reforming* *Modernity.....* by *Wael Hallaq*
No !
yeah that is really unexpected! how could human do what the gods of the irrationals couldn't do ?! shouldn't the irrationals say thanks to human, instead of stealing from him to market for their faked weak malicious gods ?!
there are a lot of irrationality, greediness, ingratitude, irrational meanness,.... isn't that true?!
Why doesn’t he investigate people who claim to have past lives. There seem to be many impressive anecdotes.
Mischievous post.
Man can I get a job spouting nonsense please? I assure you I can speak proper English and incorporate all types of scientific sounding jargon into my "scientific theses".
20:00 mind is distributed ! they do not understand what is going on, it is just a nonsensical interpretations, basically they do not know what is awareness,.... consciousness type tow is part of self concept and the repository of permanent memory is part of self concept too, 21:00 that is incorrect too because so-called personality is not permanent, there is a life cycle but not the way they think.
better to forget about that and focus on science because it is useless right now.
by the way even the faked malicious gods of the irrationals couldn't give that to the irrationals ! couldn't the faked imaginary gods do that through their religions?! or maybe they worked hard to keep mankind irrationals for their advantages !
parapsychology has been largely debunked. Still though, not totally debunked. The lack of energy field is a main bug
It's never been debunked. Mostly misrepresented or distorted by skeptics. It's actually the other way around. Most of the skeptic arguments have been debunked. Psi research now appears in mainstream journals.
@@timflelter5566 one may do long-term research on a phenomenon that presents barely above statistical static. Yet the research may raise other questions. Parapsychology is the study of anomalous events (behaviors) that often don't conform to lab schedules. It shakes things up a bit when the excuses for failure are as outlandish as the original hypothesis
@@petermartell568 well yeah but to date there's been no evidence suggesting that methodological flaws are responsible for the effect size. The aggregate long term data also is not barely above chance (its WAY above chance). I dont think any of the excuses for failure are outlandish. Theres experimenter effects in social psychology too. Plus we know that mental concentration and whether a psychological effect is manifested varies wildly for all sorts of reasons. That's why we gather large amounts of data over many years to give us greater confidence in the reality of an effect.
@@timflelter5566 I am not aware of ANY well-controlled study that has been replicated sufficiently to credit as being a previously unproven extension of perception. Though relegated to the fringe, there have been some interesting experiments done by fully accredited experts in the field using such equipment as Faraday shielding, FMRI scanning and other measuring devices with few producing any statistically significant results. Nobody has claimed Randi's million and many have tried
@@petermartell568 its because when studying non physical anomalies, conventional physics, its apparatus that is used to measure, the kind of data thats needed to study it makes it all impossible, i have had empherical evidences that can convince anyone if they had the similar kind of experiences that there's a very high chance for non physical things about human consciousness but under conventional study i know for a fact it would be DEBUNKED thats how it is and there are disproportionate number of con artists that do all kind of circus that add fuel to the fire