@@peewee130946 haha, I'm glad you found my wordplay captivating :D! Chunnsraah is an anagram of "Ach Hans Run" using the same format of Hundroog lol. "Ach! Hans, Run!" is an old joke card from unhinged thats referenced in several other places such as on the original lhurgoyf
Please do more drafts! Also, the camera on Adam's was great because he kept showing the cards more times, which helps us get the idea of what his strategy looks like
Talking from the future here. They predicted MDFCs. They were joking about creatures flipping to a Gaea's Cradle and now we have something similar to that.
Phasing in is like draw or attack phrases .. You have to go throught it. So if something is phased out, it will come back at it's owner's beginning of his (or her)'s next turn. It's Phase in, untap, upkeep, etc, etc .. And it phases back in the way it was when it phased out (tapped or not, counters on it, etc).
43:32 one my favorite draft decks that I've ever drafted used Dragon Mask to great effect alongside Man O War, Nekrataal, Merfolk Trader and Knight of the Mists...I also had a Shrieking Drake to go along with all that...plus a bunch of other great cards like Dark Banishing, Ray of Command and Suq'Ata Firewalker to round out the deck...all these years and thousands of draft decks later and I can still recall probably 17-18 of the 23 cards in that deck...this was Mirage/Visions/Weatherlight in 1997, maybe 1998...either Stronghold or Exodus was the new set out...I miss those good old days, when barely anyone(at least in my area) knew how to draft very well...getting multiple Rancors and Simian Grunts every draft, or trading little kids Benthic Behemoths and Verdant Forces for Cursed Scrolls...it was like the Wild Wild West back then, anything goes...
I assume that the card reader they use is just doing image recognition (so it has to have every card saved to memory), and the more memory-optimized but less-reliable method is to do OCR to "read" the cards
It wasn't the fear ability that killed it, but the fact that it was targetted by the triggered ability of that cycling card. The creature that died had "If this becomes targetted by a spell or ability, sacrifice it", so targetting it with the trigger made Adam sacrifice it.
WHAT IF you always put 2 cards in each pile by default instead of 1...? Would speed up the process largely and still be very much the same. Also if you pick blind cards you also pick 2 instead of one. (player 1 look in pile 1, sees 2 cards, ignores them to move to pile 2, adds one card in pile 1 then looks at the two cards in pile 2)
Adam Savvy D summoning Nicky B at 2:12:40 :3 2:17:54 Hey I remember that nose picking Orc from James' part of the skit on a Friday Nights episode for KTK. 2:31:00 Lucksack!! 2:54:55 Gambit and best ending so far in a FNPF episode. ^_^
I believe that line would cause the spell to fizzle, rather than be redirected, which would have prevented James from scrying, but wouldn't be the blowout you described.
You guys should do a fat stack sometime - mtg.gamepedia.com/Fat_Stack . Get someone like Ben or Cam to make it and have a four-player game without any players knowing what's in it.
Not being able to choose between picks kind of feels bad, would there be significant gameplay downside to allowing the player to pick any of the 3 piles after viewing all three? It could slow down the game to enough of a degree where its detrimental, but in terms of pure game mechanics it doesn't seem like it would introduce any negative factors. It gives more information to the players sure, but in a symmetrical way In order to minimize the number of picks for a given player, you need to minimize the number of turns that player gets and then maximize the number of turns that player takes only one card. Therefore each player should pick random the most amount of times in a game, this flips the most cards per turn and allocates the fewest cards to a given player each turn. After 10 rotations of a 4 player game with 12 packs at 14 cards a pack, each pile will have 40 cards, each player will have 10 cards, and the library will have 8 cards left From there there are many ways to close out the game that leave different players at different totals. If you want to screw over the most people, you have the first player pick the first pile of 40 cards, then the rest of the players each pick one card from the first pile that round, leaving the library at 4. Next round the first player picks the second pile, and each subsequent player picks the first pile again, leaving the library and first pile at 0 cards. In the final round, if a player can skip over a pile without picking it when there are no cards left in the library, then the first player picks the third pile and the second player picks up the remaining card on the table, leaving them with 130, 14, 12, and 12 cards in their decks respectively lol The lowest possible number of cards for a single player to have in your draft is 11, where they only get 1 card every turn, but then at least 2 other players each get enough cards to make a deck. definitely not anywhere close to enough. Thats given some weird deliberately unbalanced edge case though, I'm not sure what the minimum would be given a reasonably random distribution of player picks per round Vodalian Illusionist is insane if you can keep up the mana. Use it to blank your opponent's removal and buffs, or stop their creatures from attacking you. I don't get why phasing confuses people, it's really quite simple: before you untap, everything you control thats phased out phases in and everything you control with phasing phases out. It's like the same thing as a beginning of next turn flicker, except it doesn't trigger leaves the battlefield stuff 48:06 Thats amazing, whenever I have a random creature type to choose I'm definitely choosing sand from now on. Could even make a sand edh tribal deck with Hazezon Tamar as the commander, and fill the rest of it with changelings and generic tribal synergy lol
That segment where they were shuffling all of the unsleeved cards that might be worth something just made me feel awful about supporting lrr. But seriously they’re pretty cool so support them as much as you can even if they do shuffle unsleeved assorted old cards.
Funny you doing that guild based thing when the next guild kits are coming out next week lol Also snooze fest cus cant see the other two. couldnt finish lol
Why not just normal draft? This seems stupid and too random. What I would like to do is draft all 3 ravnica blocks with 3 different core sets as the 12 chaos draft boosters, that would be cool and also could still work!! :)
wow. I'll never get that time back. I can't believe there are 40k people who even touched on this. i'm ashamed of myself for even watching more than 3 minutes of this. the draft is boring. the conversation is boring. everything is as boring as the cards they are drafting. good grief.
Ben: Lesson of the day kids, never gamble.
Also Ben: Here’s some lottery numbers to play.
This is easily in the top 10 MTG streams they've done. Ben the prophet and that die roll made my whole week.
"Piece of shit's such a strong word. I prefer . . . emotionally challenged."
-Adam Savidan, 2019
That nicol bolas was the funniest thing ever.
The dice rolls at the end with the 1 and 6 was so much better! Haha
Fun fact about "Hundroog"- the name was designed as an anagram of "Oh god run".
Now they just need to make Chunnsraah
@@jek__ ok I’ve literally spent 30 mins trying to solve this and even took it through deciphers and got nothing. What’s the joke
@@peewee130946 haha, I'm glad you found my wordplay captivating :D! Chunnsraah is an anagram of "Ach Hans Run" using the same format of Hundroog lol. "Ach! Hans, Run!" is an old joke card from unhinged thats referenced in several other places such as on the original lhurgoyf
Ben: "I don't like when James plays control."
James: "Yeah I don't like it either."
I'm a big fan of these chaos drafts in general, and this is hilarious fun. Clearly you've got the packs. MORE CHAOS, SAYS I!
I second this!
In fact: Willbender ws in 3 of the drafted stes. Legions, Time Spiral and Masters 25.
Please do more drafts! Also, the camera on Adam's was great because he kept showing the cards more times, which helps us get the idea of what his strategy looks like
The entertainment value of the beginning of the last game is phenomenal.
"He's some kind of human uncle! And he's coming right for us!"
Weird seeing this *after* the highlights reel XD
Where do i find that video?
F*ck, I love Adam. Ever since I've started seeing him on LLR I' ve never regretted joining this viewership.
53:05 is when Bolas was drafted
Talking from the future here.
They predicted MDFCs. They were joking about creatures flipping to a Gaea's Cradle and now we have something similar to that.
To this day I yell D-Esper-ato when Graham tries to think of a deck name
Phasing in is like draw or attack phrases .. You have to go throught it. So if something is phased out, it will come back at it's owner's beginning of his (or her)'s next turn. It's Phase in, untap, upkeep, etc, etc .. And it phases back in the way it was when it phased out (tapped or not, counters on it, etc).
Some people may have thought this was boring but I personally taught it was awesome. Keep up with the good work.
Man that ending... *chefkiss*
The only way it would've been more cathartic was if Serge was the one to take revenge on James.
I think this is pushing the limits of this format
43:32 one my favorite draft decks that I've ever drafted used Dragon Mask to great effect alongside Man O War, Nekrataal, Merfolk Trader and Knight of the Mists...I also had a Shrieking Drake to go along with all that...plus a bunch of other great cards like Dark Banishing, Ray of Command and Suq'Ata Firewalker to round out the deck...all these years and thousands of draft decks later and I can still recall probably 17-18 of the 23 cards in that deck...this was Mirage/Visions/Weatherlight in 1997, maybe 1998...either Stronghold or Exodus was the new set out...I miss those good old days, when barely anyone(at least in my area) knew how to draft very well...getting multiple Rancors and Simian Grunts every draft, or trading little kids Benthic Behemoths and Verdant Forces for Cursed Scrolls...it was like the Wild Wild West back then, anything goes...
I love Adam just for trying, I havent even finished yet
The psychic powers on display are out of this world!!
Might wanna cover up the part of the video where Ben types his pin into his phone.
That last round of magic was the best thing I've ever seen im wildin
holy shit
Those rare, glorious moments when you go "wouldn't it be funny if this happens", and it happens.
Shoutout for Ephemeral Rift, the only ASMR channel I've managed to stay subscribed to
That dorge of dread play was hilarious
I love the art on Ice Age Dark Banishing.
Grahams deck name, supercalifragilistic-ESPER-alidocious
Esperado (obviously sung to the tune of Desperado)
Winston Draft is always weird the first time for anyone. I think All the players will have a better comfort zone if they try again.
I wish I had people to do this with.
Get you a man that looks at you like Adam looks at Nicol Bolas.
Snow covered lava spike? If it could be a thing.. quite perplexing
The sheer amount of land destruction though.
Also the fact that Ben listents to uncle rift makes so much sense to me
I love the fact that you call the Prodigal "Tim" :)
I love it when we get sassy Savidan
That last game was simply the best!
Beardy goodness
Love your nails Ben! That’s a great blue 😍
I failed to notice it untill I read this comment, but now I can't look at any other thing
46:50 "He's some kind of Human Uncle!"
This was fun. I missed why Graham didn't get to play. I wanted to see his deck.
Woo another one of my packs!
2:29:27 around here is best moment in stream
I assume that the card reader they use is just doing image recognition (so it has to have every card saved to memory), and the more memory-optimized but less-reliable method is to do OCR to "read" the cards
It's so many of the things I like. Yay!
Hey, Ben's a fan of Papa Rift!
"I see you're a man of culture as well."
James is playing the real tribal deck...
that last matchup was wild
I didn't even know four player Winston was possible. This is big.
You can even do a 6 player Winston.
I'm a simple man. I see LRR upload something I like, and with CHAOS? Yesssss.... even better.
James out here playing Boltron
i cast 1 vote for a return of this format on FNPF :D
Adam is my favorite drafter of all time
Why did fear kill the black creature at the beginning of the first match?
Having asked this, it was a ton of fun to watch!
It wasn't the fear ability that killed it, but the fact that it was targetted by the triggered ability of that cycling card. The creature that died had "If this becomes targetted by a spell or ability, sacrifice it", so targetting it with the trigger made Adam sacrifice it.
@@hermimonk2748 Thanks! I saw my answer in a later match. I didn't see that text the first time.
2:30:52 !!!
That look James gives Adam at 2:26:35
This format is extremely fun. Never not play this format :)
WHAT IF you always put 2 cards in each pile by default instead of 1...? Would speed up the process largely and still be very much the same.
Also if you pick blind cards you also pick 2 instead of one.
(player 1 look in pile 1, sees 2 cards, ignores them to move to pile 2, adds one card in pile 1 then looks at the two cards in pile 2)
56:27 How can someone not believe in destiny after that one? :D
i was playing arena while watching this and someone played a dragon as Adam picked the elder dragon . . . got me so confused
Watching the last game it's apparent that you guys need some sleep.
Adam you are my fav in LRR
Adam Savvy D summoning Nicky B at 2:12:40 :3
2:17:54 Hey I remember that nose picking Orc from James' part of the skit on a Friday Nights episode for KTK.
2:31:00 Lucksack!!
2:54:55 Gambit and best ending so far in a FNPF episode. ^_^
successfully casting a spell just means putting it on the stack/.
i really like ben's nail color in this episode, it's really cute!
could ben have sac'd his own Brontotherium to Volrath's Curse to force Rage of Purphoros to target one of James' own creatures?
I believe that line would cause the spell to fizzle, rather than be redirected, which would have prevented James from scrying, but wouldn't be the blowout you described.
no white in commander is not that surprising
Ephemeral Rift shoutouts!
No sleeves. You monsters.
The cicle play were gram gave adams creature fear..that was illigal wasnt it? it was a sorcery..(sry still kinda new to magic)
Einherier1994 he cycled it you can cycle at instant speed
Exquisite daberoni
MORE OF THISSS PLEASSEEEEE
"Posted 56 seconds ago" I've never been this early before.
nice one
not to hear your girlfriend tell it...
Uncle tribal!
If you were to draft only 1 card each time you'd have 45 cards in a 4 person Winston with 12 packs
TMP Creep but every time someone else takes more than 1 card, the total cards goes down more.
Tribal!
You guys should do a fat stack sometime - mtg.gamepedia.com/Fat_Stack . Get someone like Ben or Cam to make it and have a four-player game without any players knowing what's in it.
This draft turned to chaos BIG time that last match lmfao
Not being able to choose between picks kind of feels bad, would there be significant gameplay downside to allowing the player to pick any of the 3 piles after viewing all three? It could slow down the game to enough of a degree where its detrimental, but in terms of pure game mechanics it doesn't seem like it would introduce any negative factors. It gives more information to the players sure, but in a symmetrical way
In order to minimize the number of picks for a given player, you need to minimize the number of turns that player gets and then maximize the number of turns that player takes only one card. Therefore each player should pick random the most amount of times in a game, this flips the most cards per turn and allocates the fewest cards to a given player each turn. After 10 rotations of a 4 player game with 12 packs at 14 cards a pack, each pile will have 40 cards, each player will have 10 cards, and the library will have 8 cards left
From there there are many ways to close out the game that leave different players at different totals. If you want to screw over the most people, you have the first player pick the first pile of 40 cards, then the rest of the players each pick one card from the first pile that round, leaving the library at 4. Next round the first player picks the second pile, and each subsequent player picks the first pile again, leaving the library and first pile at 0 cards. In the final round, if a player can skip over a pile without picking it when there are no cards left in the library, then the first player picks the third pile and the second player picks up the remaining card on the table, leaving them with 130, 14, 12, and 12 cards in their decks respectively lol
The lowest possible number of cards for a single player to have in your draft is 11, where they only get 1 card every turn, but then at least 2 other players each get enough cards to make a deck. definitely not anywhere close to enough. Thats given some weird deliberately unbalanced edge case though, I'm not sure what the minimum would be given a reasonably random distribution of player picks per round
Vodalian Illusionist is insane if you can keep up the mana. Use it to blank your opponent's removal and buffs, or stop their creatures from attacking you. I don't get why phasing confuses people, it's really quite simple: before you untap, everything you control thats phased out phases in and everything you control with phasing phases out. It's like the same thing as a beginning of next turn flicker, except it doesn't trigger leaves the battlefield stuff
48:06 Thats amazing, whenever I have a random creature type to choose I'm definitely choosing sand from now on. Could even make a sand edh tribal deck with Hazezon Tamar as the commander, and fill the rest of it with changelings and generic tribal synergy lol
that was hilarious.
Esper-ronto for grams deck name
And chaos control for adams
Nice
Why not try and get 10 people for guilds commander and run 2 pools
30:35 hits different
Esper melting pot vs the mighty morphing Bolas rangers? Lol
I love Ben's hands
winston works better with cube
Going second by choice is usually a horrible idea.
That segment where they were shuffling all of the unsleeved cards that might be worth something just made me feel awful about supporting lrr. But seriously they’re pretty cool so support them as much as you can even if they do shuffle unsleeved assorted old cards.
🐀🥜
Funny you doing that guild based thing when the next guild kits are coming out next week lol
Also snooze fest cus cant see the other two. couldnt finish lol
Like said in the intro this is sponsored by card Kingdom
ha his $1 nicol bolas vs my $65 nicol bolas lol my brother got me a pack and i opened my nicol bolas a freaked
This is definitely not how you do a draft.
What a relief
Why not just normal draft? This seems stupid and too random.
What I would like to do is draft all 3 ravnica blocks with 3 different core sets as the 12 chaos draft boosters, that would be cool and also could still work!! :)
wow. I'll never get that time back. I can't believe there are 40k people who even touched on this. i'm ashamed of myself for even watching more than 3 minutes of this. the draft is boring. the conversation is boring. everything is as boring as the cards they are drafting. good grief.
Thank goodness for the 130k beautiful people who enjoyed this art