The Apps you CAN'T Uninstall!
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Your phone is filled with apps you don't use. In fact, when you first bought your phone, it was probably already filled with apps that you never installed, and there's no way to uninstall them. These apps are all sucking up data about your phone activities. It's called "bloatware" and it's a disaster for your privacy.
In this video:
- we explain why minimizing the number of apps on your devices is super important
- we do a refresher on the most private phone operating system
- we look at more private apps that you can use as alternatives to the mainstream podcast, audiobook, video player apps that are collecting your data.
00:00 Intro
00:32 Overview
00:53 What is Bloatware?
02:08 Bloatware Advice
03:49 Privacy Perils of Google
05:16 Most Private OS: GrapheneOS
06:43 Private App Alternatives
07:24 Fdroid and Aurora Stores
08:24 NewPipe
08:40 LBRY, Odyssey and Try LBRY
09:16 Organic Maps
09:29 Vanadium
09:35 Brave
09:49 Joplin
10:08 MySudo
10:27 Signal
10:49 Simple Gallery Pro
10:56 Voice
11:08 Antennapod
11:32 Funkwhale
11:41 ProtonMail and Tutanota
12:08 Conclusion
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Beginner's Introduction To Privacy - Naomi Brockwell
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Permanent Record - Edward Snowden
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What has the government done to our money - Rothbard
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Extreme Privacy - Michael Bazzel (The best privacy book I've ever read)
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No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State - Glenn Greenwald
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Brave browser: brave.com/nao076
Faraday bag (signal stopping, to protect your fob, credit card, computer, and phone)
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Data Blocker (if you're charging your phone in an unknown port, use this so that no data is transferred)
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Camera tape (electrical tape is the best tape for covering phone and computer cameras)
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USB-C to ethernet adapter:
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Privacy Screens (use your phone and computer in public? Keep your information safe!)
Computer: (Search for the size right for your computer)
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I saw someone mention this already in the comments, Noami (and any team that may work with Naomi for these videos), but a lot of the times people like myself consume a lot of content on various channels and it never crosses our mind to express our appreciation for all the work that goes into these things. So while I'm sure you get a lot of thanks in the comments, just know there's probably exponentially more people who are thankful that just didn't think to express it. So thank you, on behalf of everyone.
+1
I really appreciate you saying so, truly
@Naomi Brockwell: NBTV quick question is it possible to have graphene on the Samsung 22 ultra ???
@Cameron Moore thanks I heard that
I thought they will widely make it available
@@atubay1 No, grapheneOS support only Google phones (called Pixel). Isn't fun that to use a de-googled phone you have to use a Google phone? Ahah
THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO NAOMI. 😀👍❤
I have almost every non essential app disabled from running background data and almost no permissions unless absolutely needed for this specific reason and it saves me at least 10 to 20GB a month of data.
Naomi, it amazes me how many people install apps without first inspecting the permissions required in order to have that app. For example, a Calculator app that requires internet permission .. or access to one's SMS messages??! This level of irresponsibility amazes me, as one's phone is no different than their desktop computer. Why anyone would allow intrusive software into their private circle is bewildering. Also crucial is DISABLING undesirable permissions, on any such app, considering that feature isn't locked down.
I like how Android recently began removing permissions from apps if you haven’t used it for a while. Also, F-Droid can be installed on regular Android and pre installed apps can be disabled, but this video has a lot of great tips beyond just installing a pre-deGoogled version of Android!
Aren't you a blessing, Naomi?
I really thank you for all this informative content you're making from the bottom of my heart.
I went from a Samsung S20 to a Pixel 7 with GrapheneOS, and immediately noticed about 500-1000mb less bandwidth usage - PER DAY. Absolutely absurd how much the stock Google crap uses up talking to the mothership while hoovering up all the data. So happy to have switched to GrapheneOS, it's an amazing setup.
Welcome to the privacy journey!
Wait, does Pixel 7 come pre installed with GrapheneOS?
Great tips! I'll just advance some stuff here so that people knows these things before trying.
GrapheneOS, CalyxOS and other privacy focused alternatives are only an option if you have or plan to buy one of the phones these OSs support. They have a phone model list on their respective websites, but it's mostly Pixel Phones and perhaps Fairphone.
I'm just out of a months long attempt to root and install a privacy focused OS on an older device I have in hands, it just didn't work out. Xiaomi Mi A1 with Android One, I tried installing a whole ton of different OSs on it, you end up with all sorts of basic functionalities not working well - speakers, wi-fi, Bluetooth, etc. In the end I had to return to Android One and try to clean things as much as possible.
Always check if these OSs are working well with your device before going for it, you could even end up with a bricked phone, and it's just not an easy process to go through. I don't recommend trying to root your phone if you have no experience with this, it can be a daunting process.
On browsers, not sure why the privacy community isn't recommending it much anymore, but Firefox is still a great alternative that doesn't rely on Chromium. I know lots of people have problems with some stuff Mozilla does, but I always recommend Firefox because I really don't like this scenario we're walking towards with an engine monopoly that while being open source, is solely controlled by Google.
The longer route I'll point out to is to have a home server with something like Nextcloud and use it's apps... but that's for people who are willing to spend money and a whole lot of time with the whole thing, and it's pretty complex to setup properly. Opening up a server to be accessed externally is no joke.
Finally, if you don't care for replacing apps, replacing your phone, doing all this complicated stuff to get more privacy... there is still one very simple thing that everyone can do to at least get a little bit of privacy back - go into your apps settings, and configure each one of them properly to block access to stuff you don't want it to have, and limit it's background usage.
How effective this is always depends on how much Android/iOS is being honest about those restrictions, but this is something everyone can do with a bit of time.
You can also stop, disable and even deactivate some of the bloatware that you cannot uninstall. And for bloat that you cannot uninstall, there are ways to forcibly remove them if you have root access, but again, this is something that I don't recommend people doing if they don't know much about... it is an option though. Perhaps if you have an older phone like me to experiment on before going for your current phone.
Very helpful. Thanks! I've pretty much done most of these things. It is a big step, as you say. Google Play Services error is always displaying as I shut it off as well.
Android already auto-takes away permissions from seldom-used apps. Most preinstalled apps on Samsung Galaxy phones can be uninstaller or disabled. You can install a free firewall if you want to check whenever an app "phones home". I personally only worry about hackers, not lost privacy from companies. When I use unique emails, credit cards, username, password per account, it's to prevent attack vectors I've seen used. I trust Google and Samsung 1000x more than any reinventing the wheel OS crearor...doubtlessly full of zero day exploits (and a billion limitations). A few days ago I gave Google my SSN for their Dark Web Report. Google's security is better than my bank's (that also has my SSN)... If my (or your) SSN is leaked, it'll be likely because your doctor, accountant, or employer was hacked - things wayyy beyond your control... It won't be because someone got them from Google...lol
Every time I watch one of your videos, I feel I stand closer to the light in the tunnel after such a dark tread.. thank you for being the light in my life, Naomi ❤
These is hope! We just need to learn about it :)
Thank you very much for your hard work!
It really helps a lot to keep in mind all of this privacy issues that surrounds us!
I love your channel Naomi!
One of the best privacy focused information source!
Thank You! 🙂
Thank you Naomi. Great content as always.
Your work IS AMAZING NAOMI, thank you and good luck 👍👍👍
Fantastic video. Thank you very much Naomi.
Thank you so much, Naomi. Great tips, I didn't know about Aurora store.
I'm looking forward to the deep dive in upcoming videos about each of these apps.
Like always, great video!
Amazing job with explaining bloatwere ms Naomi
Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks, I learned a lot.
Amazing informative video!
Great info as usual miss Naomi
Love this channel
Wow great information. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Love your videos, well researched and full of knowledge. Any recommendations for VoIP or burner nos in Australia ?
Another priceless video! Thank you so much. What do we tell people who say we're being tracked by everybody and privacy is gone anyway so there's nothing left to protect? I think the overwhelming majority feel this way, so what concrete dangers can we avoid?
Tell them to stop disempowering others. People can take steps to improve their privacy and they should do so. Just because they're not going to stop all data leakage immediately doesn't mean they should allow companies a free-for-all with their personal data.
Keep up the great work as always and where can one purchase a De-Googled phone?
Thank you Naomi. Best. Ever :D
Oh I forgot...can I have the eBook signed? ;)
Thinking of buying the paper back version tho.
Thanks Naomi
Yes, Naomi, whatever you say Naomi. For we are mere mortals and unworthy of your wisdom. Thank you
Thank you.
Thank you N.B.
Thanks Ron
super vid!
Bloatware is the entire reason I couldn't update my last phone. I'd wiped it to almost completely stock. No pics, no music. Still 1.5MB away from being able to install... Half the crap on these things, I barely use. Let alone at all.
It's a losing battle but at least we can feel like we are doing something. I suggest getting pfsense and block all traffic both ways by default. Then only open ports for the activity you want. It's a lot harder to create a whitelist but at least you are opting in to only things you explicitly approve.
Hey Naomi, can you do a video on how to remove the bloat ware. I have done some myself but I am looking for a comprehensive list of bloatware apps safe to remove that won't crash my phone. Thanks.
That ending clip made me 🤣🤣🤣
My phone started bulging at the sides. I thought it was BLOATWARE. It turned out the battery was swelling!
You had a spicy pillow
Samsung Note:D
Amazing
Grazie, Naomi!
As for measuring leaves? Uhh, I stick to my tape measure.
🤣
Love GrapheneOS!
lol the "leaf measuring app" dig 🤣🙋🏽♂ guilty
So much info - I think I need a nap.
I recommend watching it at 75% speed.
You should only have UA-cam and be subscribed to Naomi.
Nope
Or odysee
"... Now, let me log into my Gmail."... Lord, there are a bunch of people who won't understand that joke. NBTV subscribers will, otherwise others not so much 😅😂❤
Could you do a follow up on how to make good compromizing/ reduce the data collection on a normal device?
i really want to reduce the data collection on my phone while still maintaining comfort features as an System that connects everything together and is not having me to step down on comfort design or features.
One of these compromizes i've found was youtube revanced, which is a take of the official youtube app, while using an open source google connector (MicroG Fork) which reduces data collection massively.
I'll admit. I'm an App Ape. I go bananas downloading apps!
I don’t know much about foss Android alternatives. May I ask why Graphine specifically? What advantages/disadvantages does it have compared to something like Lineage?
Naomi, can you recommend the best way to manage over a dozen email accounts in a single ap? Sorry for going off topic but you seem to be one of the best for this type of info 🙂
I use protonmail and have all my accounts managed there.
These 2 videos will help:
ua-cam.com/video/K9SiOYRcTCc/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/5HHdk_GP-Ew/v-deo.html
You forgot to mention Skiff for mail/notes/drive/calendar app 😊
How do you “coin’ the app onto Graphene devise”
Can you or someone please explain how you would after purchasing a Sudo subscription, then somehow get it on Graphene device, can the app just be downloaded like normal onto device but you have to actually purchase the subscription on a standard non de-googled phone etc first ?
Any recommendations on a base device without all the tracking & Google apps baked in?
Make a video about Truecaller app or similar?
How to fight against robocall or fake calls
ADB push helped me to delete all of the shit from my Xiaomi and added NextDNS to my DoH
Im fanatical about being aware of which apps have to permission to do what and when. iPhone is easy to monitor. (or gives me that impression)
You're doing God's work.
👍 🎥
For sure my phone is full of bad apps that does not respect any privacy rules nor consumer protecting regulations, even if those apps pretend to! But nobody control it. The digital world we're living in is jungle. Most of people are not aware of what the digital reality is hiding. And for those who aren't dupe, the digital life is a kind of nightmare whether they want to control their privacy!
I even cut out email, not to mention social media apps.
How you know which apps is saved... I'm afraid they could make the icon app n name as they're the main app of phone... Like security things or something
Thoughts on using Duck Duck Go's App Tracking Protection tool to mitigate some concerns?
Is there a way to uncensor Chromecast?
Or is it possible to buy an uncensored chromecast anywhere? Substitutes?
Using Brave for long time ,very fast ,reliable
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I'd argue that CalyxOS is better than Graphene OS. More frequent security updates, open source apps installed by default and MicroG baked into the OS.
I like that you started the graphene os vs calyx os war. It was quite the series in 2022 lol 😂
One of graphene team's allegations against calyx was the consistency of security patches. How the turn tables!.
I do like Calyx's use of more open source by default as opposed to graphene's complacency with closed source.
Anyway each side needs to be independently evaluated.
I didn't know it was happening 😅 I just speak from experience. My brother was using Graphene and I've been on Calyx for almost 3 years
@@kandym3478 For almost 3yrs? That's awesome. The wars between the two has been going on since 2017 or 2018. I only began following it last year.
They've had battles on every platform, HN, reddit, yt, odysee, matrix, twitter, github you name it 😂.
I was afraid of some government conspiracy😅 but it turned out to be college students (most of graphene & calyx devs back then) having petty ego clashes.
Signal isn’t exactly safe either. Recently journalists have had their signal conversations spied on by the government.
That's not signal that was compromised, that was their phones
GrapheneOS is applicable ? for Oneplus 10 pro?
Naomi, I had no idea that your background included films and theatre, although your IMDB page sadly seems to exclude mention of your NBTV work.
For example, "The Ideal Host" film work - ua-cam.com/video/VCrlK0sA8BA/v-deo.html
Is the disconnect intentionall?
just never got around to adding it to imdb! Will add it to the list one day :)
Those proton mail and tutanota chapters at the end of the video are wrong, maybe you cut those out of the video but forgot to adjust the chapters?
I just remove them internet permission using the No root firewall app. I also looked which app sends the most data using internet and most them i dont even used.
I'm curious why you don't sync your UA-cam channel to Odysee, since you did mention it in your video. There's also an extension "Watch on Odysee" for videos sync'd in this way. Basically a couple of clicks to sync to Odysee, no extra work.
We have a large channel on odysee, and the odysee videos is also linked in the video description. odysee.com/@NaomiBrockwell:4
min 1:42 Leafy Naomi!
Lol yesterday I was talking about this with a friend
Hi NBTV, would using Safari for accessing UA-cam be any better than the iOS app? 🤔 Or a dedicated browser app used only to access UA-cam? Not sure if iOS apps are sandboxed in a way that one browser app has no link to another browser app?
How many NewPipe apps are there?! And which is the 'real' one that you were referring to?
Can you please provide the name of the developer, so that we can tell it apart from the fakes?
The worst app I've ever seen was to vote on the voice. That app wanted more permissions than I knew was possible to access and spy on every transistor in your phone. I quickly deleted that app
I believe Signal removed SMS integration on android so what is another alternative
Yeah, they told me that I would have to find another SMS messaging app a few months ago, so I went back to the default GrapheneOS messaging app and uninstalled Signal. But I would have preferred to have continued with Signal since it provided end-to-end encryption (although I think that was only if both parties were using Signal). I would like to hear Naomi address this issue. What happened? Why did Signal stop working?
Try telling people this though...
these apps dont allow access of the service on a web browser .. they want you to download an run the app its either you access the service on app or not at all ,.. hardly any choice
yeah the *appificiation* of the internet has been awful.
@@SuperWolfkin it very much is. Privacy invasion & data harvesting are some of the most profitable ventures
On shark tank, a CMS entrepreneur was ridiculed for not making harvesting customer phone numbers his main pitch even though he was doing that.
The reason they want you to use apps is so that they can track you closely & target you with ads.
4:57 that 'keep watching' bait means every app in that list isn't trustworthy.
Hi Naomi, what’s your thoughts on apple mail ? thanks x
What if we bought a smartphone from China without pre installed Google app services
Where adb. Using it, you can uninstall most of those system apps and bloatware.
Glad I am using iOS on which I got the right to delete most of the pre-stalled apps.
There are supposedly issues with how fdroid now handles apps. I'm surprised you still recommend them.
I love fdroid. We do a deep dive in an upcoming video being released in 2 weeks
Ok, Now, lets login to Gmail 😂😂
Graphene will only install on a Pixel phone, which are hugely bloody expensive. Privacy costs!
You know one way companies make their phones cheaper? They get paid a lot of money by other companies like google and facebook to put their apps on your phone by default in a way that you can't uninstall them. That's often the tradeoff with a cheap phone.
@@NaomiBrockwellTV I'm surprised that no one has found a way to wipe a cheap phone. Shirley that should be top of the agenda to get ';private' mobiles going forward
2:25 so, you're _not_ going to show us an easy way to flash the os to remove bloatware? I've been waiting over a decade for that. I just want a raw android install.
There a lot of tutorials on youtube for grapheneos
But…, I have visited a rainforest.
Mexico, South America, southern Central America.
I really hope you had your leaf-measuring app with you!
@@NaomiBrockwellTV It was about a decade ago, so no.
DuckduckGo instead of Brave?... And GrapheneOS, does it work on any phone? Cheers
I don't recommend DDG since they started censoring results, I prefer Brave instead. GrapheneOS only works on Pixel phones because it requires certain security elements that only Pixels offer
@@NaomiBrockwellTV don't mean to be unpleasant, but can you elaborate on what censor DDG does? I use it on PC and phone and never felt any censorship...
Thanks
As always...less is better! 😀
Love your dress, very European :-D
You should visit us, here in Madrid.
How safe is duckduckgo??
Privacy is nearly dead. People won't wake up until there's literally naked pictures of them with their names on it for sale.
How about carrying a dumb phone, keeping the smart phone powered off until needed, and not using either for shopping or sensitive stuff?😊
You can do that but having it off isn't enough you need one of those wifi signal blockers you put the phone inside.
Signal is compromised IMHO, other alternatives please?
Thanks for all you do Noami!
Strongly disagree that Signal is compromised, I see no evidence of this, and the founder is a well regarded privacy activist and cypherpunk
Only one problem: Graphene OS is not compatible with most devices.
With any devices except Pixel. GrapheneOS' focus is security and no other devices offer the same level of security from a hardware support perspective.
I can't stop and you can't make me 😜
Proton is still collecting data i just wanted to say that
Can you cite a source? What data are they collecting, how is it used?
@@therealb888 they collect analytics data which means collect some data
@@Flashbrickanimations I'll have to look into it, but thanks for pointing it out.
TLDR? 👉🏼 Graphene OS for Android phones!