When I was re-reading Homestuck, it was really strange. Act 5 Act 1 Gamzee was actually fairly likeable. His philosophy basically worked out to "If I start meddling there's a good chance I'll make things worse, but if I just wait, something will probably go right. And even if there's no magic to it, that's still worth believing in." Simpler times.
@@gallowsAlgorithms Dirk is a nice guy who cares about everyone? Dirk is incredibly manipulative, who primarily cares about his mindgames, and trying to score with Jake, in that order.
i like how they bring up the fact that jake kisses a decapitated head and just doesn't mention the context that doing that revives them via transferring their primary consciousness to their dream self, and also the person who had the decapitated lives in the future which is likely why they've had tandem control of both themselves and their dream self prior to decapitating themselves and sending the head back in time. like come on. stuff like this happens in every story. /sarcasm
just so u know gamzee has troll icp posters on his wall. he didn't call it blasphemous because it was icp he called it blasphemous because it was HUMAN icp 😭
ain't no fucking way you describe jane AND jake by their post-canon selves and completely leave out ult dirk and praise dirk..... the amount of prospit gang slander in this video actually omg.. either way this was so fucking funny you guys are so entertaining
SEE SOMEONE GETS IT and omfg the john slander 😭😭 like yeah hes a dweebus but imo hes a cute dork and hes just nice! like i get finding him annoying but idfk how you can finish Homestuck and think hes the worst, hes consistently kind and caring and yeah he was an asshole in that one act 6 intermission but hes trying his best 😡 ALSO JADE IS KINDA FORGETTABLE CAUSE SHES ASLEEP FOR HALF THE ENTIRE STORY AHH
@@S0DDA i now have changed my mind Jade is a great character and its the COMIC'S fault for not using her to her fullest extent. I'm still so mad how dirty she gets done during the entire run -.-
I *love* that your take is that *jake* is abusive and *dirk* is a good guy. Like you know Jake was manipulated by dirk into kissing the severed head to *save dirk's life*, yeah? Like. Completely unnecessarily?
absolutely drives me insane how this person is only using hs^2 and the epilogues to shit on the prospite kids and then ignores it for the sake of the derse kids
I am 100% sure everyone in the Homestuck universe is fucking abusive. Sure, you can go ahead and defend your favorite character's action but really, I'm calling every single character out on their bullshit because- really, no one like each other (And I know there some characters that get along, don't remind me)
I’m convinced that the person who is not the boyfriend has not read homestuck either because they have the worst takes on the characters ever and don’t know common facts. I almost cannot watch the video because it feels like they got all their knowledge from tumblr. I AM FOAMING AT THE MOUTH RAUGHHHHH
Ironically, sollux’s name is a play on two mythological greek brothers: Pollux and Captor(i think those are their names) who are the two twins who make up the gemini constellation.
FRRR I THOUGHT FOR A SECOND, “wait, people really think that??” All of these bitches are my babies and writing them with flaws is what made Homestuck so amazing for me. She (/they) literally magnified every little thing like Jake being a terrorist bc hes “obsessed with weaponry”, bitch what??
@@zigguratZenith "Oh why yes, I like my characters to be literally perfect with nothing wrong with them, no I want my characters to not own weapons even though they live on an island covered in literal monsters." The fact that they were CONFIDENT that they could say something that braindead and get away with it is mindboggling.
@@zigguratZenith REAL im actually just going through the comment section low key seething because AH THIS VIDEO SLANDERS SO MANY OF MY FAVES like god im sorry going after BOTH JANE AND JAKE because of their post canon selves, then insulting john for being a lame dork and the worst when hes like consistently the nicest character and saying jade is forgettable WHEN SHE LITERALLY IS ASLEEP FOR HALF THE GODDAMN STORY all while being a DIRK APOLOGIST?!?!?! dont get me wrong i like dirk but SERIOUSLY?!?!?!
i think the biggest giveaway that OP remembers absolutely nothing about homestuck proper is that that would absolutely have been acknowledged otherwise
He was technically killed by Tavros throu manipulation of Bec in attempt to guard Jade. Edit: i think the reason why Jade knew that she needed to preserve grandpas body is because she(supossedly) knew about her taxidermed dream self body alongside original Bec
I know this video is 2 years old but if you told me the bf read the comic and not the one who actually did I'd believe you lol. The way the prospit kids were described is quite off to say the least and why describe Jane using her epilogue self?? John is a good dude :/
"you could tell me she has machine guns attached to her arms and actually commited genocide to an alien race and I would be surprised" "oh no, there is a whole other character that did that" This might genuinely be my favorite part of the video
He got the fusion between jade and John RIGHT?? and you didn't tell him. He is the ectobiological equivalent of a fusion dance!! That was a shot in the dark that hit bull's eye and you didn't even acknowledge it
@@billybobbro8216 I didnt even read epilogue and still agree. It feels like she got many facts about characters wrong or examined story on surface level. As an example, one of her reasons to hate John is because he "pretends his life is super hard" however, John hates clowns partly because of Gamzee and Lord english. And obv I dint need to explain that he had friends
oh absolutely, im not a super fan of his character mostly cause i think the role he serves as like a drama vehicle can be irritating, but hes not a bad dude at all, and he gets SNUBBED by the ending like holy hell. like yeah hes a hot dumb dork, hes like if john was somehow more dorky and just generally a bit less aware lol
Yeah the blurring together of the canon and post canon is pretty apparent. If you look past act 7 all of their characterisation goes outta window (somehow I feel like ult dirk is the one that fits the best but he's still weirdly off)
why r u so mean to them 😭 why are you lying to him. you described the opposite of jake did we read the same homestuck PLEASE WHAT. youre a mystery my dude did you like not finish homestuck yet??
i have read only 400 pages of homestuck and youtube decided to recommend this to me, seeing all the comments up in flames and just sitting here confused is so funny
GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN (not saying dont read homestuck just trust me its so much better without spoilers come back when ur done unless ur already completely ruined lol)
The guy guessing got a huge amount right... the lady describing the characters didn't give him enough credit, and... she has a different take on Homestuck than I do. :-)
I always thought sea-hitler was Eridans ancestor... however, can we then draw a conclusion that the book vriska had from mindfang is troll-mein kampf? (Sorry, i know its not funny but the compareson is just too similar)
Sea Hitler is Feferi's ancestor, actually. Can't tell you about Mein Kampf since I never read it, but Mindfang definitely would have loved it if her writings were to become the basis of a terrible way of thinking.
though the girlfriend didn't mention a lot of things about the characters (mainly out of forgetness), this still was a very fun video lol edit: okay you said that you hate jake so now i must dislike this video. you also missed a lot of details about the characters that actually make them enjoyable and mentioned only the negative things. wow you remember almost nothing about homestuck and are trying to explain it to someone who never read it? that is the worst idea ever
6:22 i cant get over how absolutely correct this is except that dave realizes that bro was actually a horrible guardian and never actually liked the things he felt he was supposed to like (beyond his display of irony) because of his brother like even in the letter with john giving dave his shades it states that dave should "get out of his bro's shadow and spread his wings"
finished the video and im actually glad i wasnt the only one off put by some of the takes by the person (not the boyfriend) here, especially w the kids😭😭 also the hs^2 and the epilogues stuff my god either way funny video
awful takes on literally everyone *COUGH COUGH JADE!!!!!!! COUGH COUGH* but this videos so funny that i ignore it also what did john or sollux do 2 u😭😭😭😭
@@S0DDA me too dude she straight up mischaracterized him and a bunch of the other characters💀this might be a tad biased but idk how anyone could hate john, sollux or jake, theyre all such good characters bro😭
"No one from homestuck I've ever heard has had a real name" He's not wrong
Fair enough, although there is a Dave Strider who ran for senate
I learned a while ago that there was a police investigator in Colorado whose name was John Egbert
You tellin me Dave isn't a real
john karkat is a real name
Someone in my school has the name Kanaya
I love how he immediantly guesses Rose is lesbian
It's actually true. Just so you know.
I mean-
She is
"He's like Jade if you added a gun" Jade canonically has a gun and it's bigger
he’s like jade if she used her gun. also their names are one letter away 💀
how does he know more about homestuck than you 😭
When I was re-reading Homestuck, it was really strange. Act 5 Act 1 Gamzee was actually fairly likeable. His philosophy basically worked out to "If I start meddling there's a good chance I'll make things worse, but if I just wait, something will probably go right. And even if there's no magic to it, that's still worth believing in."
Simpler times.
Kyle Steele is actually a valid Homestuck kid name, AND it matches the vibe of Dave's name.
I'm going to start calling him Kyle
yay kyle
Chad Buskin
i *think* kyle was one of the runner-up names suggested for dave back when that happened
Your boyfriend's voice is LITERALLY my adult headcanon Egbert voice
real omg
Fr 😂
worst homestuck opinions ever. i love it
REAL ITS FUNNY
absolutely hilarious to me that the host of this game doesnt know who the fuck these characters are either
@@gallowsAlgorithms Dirk is a nice guy who cares about everyone? Dirk is incredibly manipulative, who primarily cares about his mindgames, and trying to score with Jake, in that order.
FRRRRR like what tf are these takes man
literally bro i don't think they've actually read the comic in years and then they take things from homestuck fucking ^2
i like how they bring up the fact that jake kisses a decapitated head and just doesn't mention the context that doing that revives them via transferring their primary consciousness to their dream self, and also the person who had the decapitated lives in the future which is likely why they've had tandem control of both themselves and their dream self prior to decapitating themselves and sending the head back in time.
like come on. stuff like this happens in every story. /sarcasm
has the person who made this even read the comic like holy shit these takes
my guess is that they read it years ago and then recently read the epilogues + hs2 and it clouded their view of the characters
"He's like Jade but add a gun"
I mean... Jade DOES HAVE a gun
But Jake has TWO guns.
@@octocube2598 you've got a point there
It's one of the biggest points in Gamzee's character that he is NOT a juggalo! He was shown an ICP video and despised it!!!
THANK YOU! HES NOT A JUGGALO!
just so u know gamzee has troll icp posters on his wall. he didn't call it blasphemous because it was icp he called it blasphemous because it was HUMAN icp 😭
EXCUSE ME-?
ain't no fucking way you describe jane AND jake by their post-canon selves and completely leave out ult dirk and praise dirk..... the amount of prospit gang slander in this video actually omg.. either way this was so fucking funny you guys are so entertaining
RIGHT??
SEE SOMEONE GETS IT and omfg the john slander 😭😭 like yeah hes a dweebus but imo hes a cute dork and hes just nice! like i get finding him annoying but idfk how you can finish Homestuck and think hes the worst, hes consistently kind and caring and yeah he was an asshole in that one act 6 intermission but hes trying his best 😡 ALSO JADE IS KINDA FORGETTABLE CAUSE SHES ASLEEP FOR HALF THE ENTIRE STORY AHH
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS JADE SLANDER
@@S0DDA i now have changed my mind Jade is a great character and its the COMIC'S fault for not using her to her fullest extent. I'm still so mad how dirty she gets done during the entire run -.-
I *love* that your take is that *jake* is abusive and *dirk* is a good guy.
Like you know Jake was manipulated by dirk into kissing the severed head to *save dirk's life*, yeah? Like. Completely unnecessarily?
absolutely drives me insane how this person is only using hs^2 and the epilogues to shit on the prospite kids and then ignores it for the sake of the derse kids
I am 100% sure everyone in the Homestuck universe is fucking abusive. Sure, you can go ahead and defend your favorite character's action but really, I'm calling every single character out on their bullshit because- really, no one like each other (And I know there some characters that get along, don't remind me)
@@dangdao8068 I will not listen to this anti-dad egbert slander.
@@DaughterOfDrakes I’m just saying everyone is a asshole (especially Vriska)
I’m convinced that the person who is not the boyfriend has not read homestuck either because they have the worst takes on the characters ever and don’t know common facts. I almost cannot watch the video because it feels like they got all their knowledge from tumblr. I AM FOAMING AT THE MOUTH RAUGHHHHH
Still doesn't make sense how Jake is a genocidal maniac
i completely agree it is infuriating to watch
EsP tHe PaRt WhErE tHeY sAiD "dIrK iS nOt BrO" lIkE iDfK iF iM jUsT dUmB bUt Is He NoT LITERALLY bRo??? LiKe HoW iS hE nOt???
they deffo read homestuck 2 and let it dictate all of their opinions on the prospit kids cos GOD DAMN dude the hate on them is just unnecessary 😭
yeah like "Jake is an abusive terrorist" HUH
Ironically, sollux’s name is a play on two mythological greek brothers: Pollux and Captor(i think those are their names) who are the two twins who make up the gemini constellation.
Castor, but yes, you are right :^)
CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW LIKE SPOT-ON HE GOT THE FANDOM’S ATTITUDE TOWARDS VRISKA?
Why does your boyfriend have my headcanon Sollux voice-
Ikr, like I was sitting there like, "If only he had a lisp"
@@airria7119 true
Oh.my.god. YOUR RIGHT
he DOES have the confidence
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Imma be honest.
You have some of the worst homestuck character takes. This is not up for debate.
EXACTLY THEYRE SO BADDDD
FRRR I THOUGHT FOR A SECOND, “wait, people really think that??” All of these bitches are my babies and writing them with flaws is what made Homestuck so amazing for me. She (/they) literally magnified every little thing like Jake being a terrorist bc hes “obsessed with weaponry”, bitch what??
@@zigguratZenith "Oh why yes, I like my characters to be literally perfect with nothing wrong with them, no I want my characters to not own weapons even though they live on an island covered in literal monsters." The fact that they were CONFIDENT that they could say something that braindead and get away with it is mindboggling.
@@zigguratZenith REAL im actually just going through the comment section low key seething because AH THIS VIDEO SLANDERS SO MANY OF MY FAVES like god im sorry going after BOTH JANE AND JAKE because of their post canon selves, then insulting john for being a lame dork and the worst when hes like consistently the nicest character and saying jade is forgettable WHEN SHE LITERALLY IS ASLEEP FOR HALF THE GODDAMN STORY all while being a DIRK APOLOGIST?!?!?! dont get me wrong i like dirk but SERIOUSLY?!?!?!
FR
To be fair, he had a reason to make out with that head
And it was a pretty fuk!n good reason
@@sausageassassinn and it was really fucking badass
Surprisingly your boyfriend guesses more about characters than you
I feel like the bf guessed more of homestuck than the gf know about it, that's impressive !
why are her takes on the characters so bad. did she not read the comic?
"she's probably really into animals"
Funny you should say that...
DOG
i think the biggest giveaway that OP remembers absolutely nothing about homestuck proper is that that would absolutely have been acknowledged otherwise
Jades grandfather did in fact die, and I believe he told her to preserve his body through taxidermy because that’s how he’s introduced.
He was technically killed by Tavros throu manipulation of Bec in attempt to guard Jade.
Edit: i think the reason why Jade knew that she needed to preserve grandpas body is because she(supossedly) knew about her taxidermed dream self body alongside original Bec
I know this video is 2 years old but if you told me the bf read the comic and not the one who actually did I'd believe you lol. The way the prospit kids were described is quite off to say the least and why describe Jane using her epilogue self?? John is a good dude :/
Honestly Kyle and Dave as names have pretty similar energy
Kyle is a 35 year old who drinks monster energy and Dave is a 45 year old who drinks miller lite
"you could tell me she has machine guns attached to her arms and actually commited genocide to an alien race and I would be surprised"
"oh no, there is a whole other character that did that"
This might genuinely be my favorite part of the video
changed my mind, its absolutely him describing Vriska, Terezi and Gamzee
"He's like Jade but add a gun."
JADE HAD A GUN
This
jake has _more_
You know for being so simple these designs are really effective at giving away their personalities
i was excited for more homestuck content and then started sobbing because of your opinions on the characters
bruh rolanda lolanda 💀
i literally laughed so hard that the water i was drinking came out of my nose ;_;
i dont stand for this john slander lol
john is great wdym
I agree asf
yes
Yea lol
Yeah wtf
Yea
The boyfriend's take on sollux is so good though HAHSHHA
I’m in awe of how your bf tried to wrap his head around sollux’s design
He got the fusion between jade and John RIGHT?? and you didn't tell him. He is the ectobiological equivalent of a fusion dance!! That was a shot in the dark that hit bull's eye and you didn't even acknowledge it
abusive terriorist???? i-
you read homestuck right?
She probably read Homestuck v2 but not original Homestuck.)
Mind explaining why you hate John so much? 😂
yeah c'mon
yeah john nice :)
John good
Hates John, calls Jake a terrorist. This person feels like post-canon dirk
@@billybobbro8216 I didnt even read epilogue and still agree. It feels like she got many facts about characters wrong or examined story on surface level.
As an example, one of her reasons to hate John is because he "pretends his life is super hard" however, John hates clowns partly because of Gamzee and Lord english.
And obv I dint need to explain that he had friends
worst opinion on john ever. great vid tho
I know right??? This person has the wrongest opinions ever
I personally would just think of Jake as a dork I wouldn't have said edgy at all he's kind-hearted but at the same time he's not bright
oh absolutely, im not a super fan of his character mostly cause i think the role he serves as like a drama vehicle can be irritating, but hes not a bad dude at all, and he gets SNUBBED by the ending like holy hell. like yeah hes a hot dumb dork, hes like if john was somehow more dorky and just generally a bit less aware lol
Holy shit his guesses are so accurate
Did we read the same Homestuck.?
which comic did they read bruh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
did we read the same homestuck
Yeah the blurring together of the canon and post canon is pretty apparent. If you look past act 7 all of their characterisation goes outta window (somehow I feel like ult dirk is the one that fits the best but he's still weirdly off)
that moment when you see vriska and immediately say “oh no”
His guess on dirk was on point.
why r u so mean to them 😭 why are you lying to him. you described the opposite of jake did we read the same homestuck
PLEASE WHAT. youre a mystery my dude
did you like not finish homestuck yet??
Everyone thinks that Rose is Maddie, and I agree
I mean when she does look like an alternative version of mandy from Grim adventures of Billy and mandy
Regardless of Jane Crocker, Jane Egbert (Nanna) did nothing wrong!!!
i have read only 400 pages of homestuck and youtube decided to recommend this to me, seeing all the comments up in flames and just sitting here confused is so funny
GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN (not saying dont read homestuck just trust me its so much better without spoilers come back when ur done unless ur already completely ruined lol)
I'm sorry, but did you read Homestuck?
The guy guessing got a huge amount right... the lady describing the characters didn't give him enough credit, and... she has a different take on Homestuck than I do. :-)
He should do the rest of the trolls and guess the scenes of him trying figure it out from zero context of the panels
He probably knows the others though he knew about karkat
Yeah, show him some gamzee dialogue with no context!
I WILL *NOT* ACCEPT ANY EGBERT SLANDER
I always thought sea-hitler was Eridans ancestor... however, can we then draw a conclusion that the book vriska had from mindfang is troll-mein kampf? (Sorry, i know its not funny but the compareson is just too similar)
Sea Hitler is Feferi's ancestor, actually. Can't tell you about Mein Kampf since I never read it, but Mindfang definitely would have loved it if her writings were to become the basis of a terrible way of thinking.
As the girlfriend in this video I will own up 100% that I fucked up so hard and messed up the ancestors lmao
SEA HITLER
amazing. ate a lemon while watching!
You ate a lemon. Just an entire lemon.?
wtf why do you hate john so much
The fact that they were generally wrong about Vriska.
omg this has to be faked, guy gets Dirk perfectly wtf
I may be more predictable than I first thought.
Dirk Strider is a fairly well-known character to non-homestucks, tbh. It's the glasses.
the accuracy of vriska.
Bro why’d you do that to my boy jake
your opinion on john is wrong gfys
I just can't with these people💀 90% sure they just read homestuck^2 and went off of that and their memories from when she read HS 9 years ago.
Bruh why would use use the image of candy john in his outgrown pajamas
Are you, like, lying about who these people are ;_;
3:44 tell him to count his days
I associate with Gamzee because everyone gave up on getting me mental health help too 😊
John is actually one of my favorites so I need an explanation please.
I K N O W Homestuck this video is the funnest most infuriating things
Didn’t even do all the trolls
though the girlfriend didn't mention a lot of things about the characters (mainly out of forgetness), this still was a very fun video lol
edit: okay you said that you hate jake so now i must dislike this video. you also missed a lot of details about the characters that actually make them enjoyable and mentioned only the negative things. wow
you remember almost nothing about homestuck and are trying to explain it to someone who never read it? that is the worst idea ever
double-o twosie is canon and no one can convince me otherwise
Ok but the guys opinions on the alpha kids (saying they look like fusions) IS EXACTLY what i thought of them too
CRYING THIS IS SO FUCKING FUNNY
AwW GaMzEe :o(
They did not just say that about my boy Gamzee 💀
*T A D*
💀
@@MonicaGonzalez-me8qo :0)
NOT THE SOLLUX SLANDER 😢
troll-human marriage? damn i'm not that far in
It is very clear, even without the constant affirmation that they don't know Homestuck, they are bad at Homestuck.
19:55 How tf is he sorta right about sollux?????
HOW THE HELL ARE THEY RIGHT ABOUT VRISKA?!?!?!?!
6:22 i cant get over how absolutely correct this is except that dave realizes that bro was actually a horrible guardian and never actually liked the things he felt he was supposed to like (beyond his display of irony) because of his brother
like even in the letter with john giving dave his shades it states that dave should "get out of his bro's shadow and spread his wings"
finished the video and im actually glad i wasnt the only one off put by some of the takes by the person (not the boyfriend) here, especially w the kids😭😭
also the hs^2 and the epilogues stuff my god
either way funny video
Kyle Steelie Makes Me Think Of Kyle Scheele.
Can confirm, i am horrifically toxic 😀
@Madison Smith 29:09 i’m guessing
Same :0)
Why are they so judgmental? :/
You seem incredibly mad at every character.
Ah yes 00twozee my favorite troll
Vriska didn't kill Tavros at first.....only crippled him
WHAT DO U HAVE AGAINST JANE !!
Didn’t I see you on a cats millionaire video?
@@peckmech probably
i wish more people understood ecto-biology 😞😞😞
27:02 not gamzee being my favorite lmao
11:58 I think your forgetting he's a prince of heart
1:32 EXCUSE YOU-
so we got:
>doublo twosie
>dmonya ??????
>grande silvia (shortened cuz it's too long LOL)
>lirezi ??????
>bowbow ??????
why was the rose description SO ACCURATE oh my god
29:01 That was a personal attack
awful takes on literally everyone *COUGH COUGH JADE!!!!!!! COUGH COUGH* but this videos so funny that i ignore it
also what did john or sollux do 2 u😭😭😭😭
JAKE TOO😔
@@fuzzygarf 😿😿😿i don't rlly care 2 much abt jake but i was so confused the way she was describing him😭😭
@@S0DDA me too dude she straight up mischaracterized him and a bunch of the other characters💀this might be a tad biased but idk how anyone could hate john, sollux or jake, theyre all such good characters bro😭
@@fuzzygarf how can ANYONE HATE JOHN sollux too but ESPECIALLY JOHN
@@S0DDA RIGHT i love john hes awesome💔💔
Poor gamzee he doesn’t deserve haters 😂
BUT THE WAY HE FELL OUT OF THE CASKET THOUGH
This is for joke reasons
But I freaking love gamzee SO MUCH