@@coolblockWILL You need to stop him from even hitting the board to completely negate him, so you have to be in blue. If you fail to do that, even if you remove him immediately, he still ditches half your board unless you have exile effects. Just running interaction isn't enough, you have to tailor your deck specifically to stop him.
I wanna put them in a prismatic bridge deck, bunch of removal and protection and maybe something to make etrata hastey every time she comes back from the deck. Sounds fun in my head.
Jeez, all my years of playing magic since high school and I never would’ve expected the 3 most aggro colors combined (being Jund of course) would literally become a treasure trove lol
Something about black cards just make my heart beat faster. Definitely my favorite color and this breakdown was most enjoyable. Thanks for all the hard work you’ve done this spoiler season Mitch (and Eddie of course)
The ability is a triggered ability that checks when the creature dies. It doesn't replace the effect. That means it doesnt interact with death triggers in a way that hoses them.
Holy shit, the only thing remotely close to "Mercenary Tribal" over 20 years since the tribe was introduced. Might even be closer to 25 years by now, but don't quote me on that.
Throw in Conspiracy (the enchantment, not the card type) to change all cards in your deck and on the battlefield to Mercenary. Then use your Mercenary tutors to bring stuff out.
You are correct about Dauthi Voidwalker shutting off Mari's first ability. DV's ability is a replacement effect which happens first, then Mari would never even see the cards. If they were both replacement effects or both triggered abilities, then this would work as with replacement effects you decide the order in which they replace.
I don't think that's the case. Dauthi needs to see it "hit" the graveyard for its replacement affect, whereas Mari will see it die before it hits the graveyard
@@xhaser56 Nope, replacement effects will happen first, they have to as they replace that action that is about to happen. Trigger abilities happen after the game sees that event happen. Replacement effects also don't use the Stack, they just replace how something that would resolve from the Stack happens, whereas triggered abilities do add a new thing to the Stack.
@@xhaser56 Sure thing. It's crazy rules interactions like this that prompted me to create this channel and do what I can to help clear up confusion in Commander games. Glad to help out.
Just ordered a playset of etrata after seeing this, think I see a fun, wacky pioneer or modern deck in the works. Also ordered a fifth etrata for the commander deck I always wanted to make with her
My first deck I built was mono black. The commander is Vito so it's all themed around gaining life and using that to deal damage. Although I might be swapping it around and move him to the 99 and make Krrik the commander.
it works with voidwalker. Voidwalker is a replacement effect when it goes into the graveyard, and mari is a triggered ability when it dies (aka leaves battlefield for graveyard) the battlefield. so it actually should work, sorry had to edit because i didnt use proper words
Dies means goes to the graveyard. So Dauthi replaces that going to the graveyard with the card instead going to exile. No death trigger will occur while Voidwalker is out.
Deathtouch tribal is an archetype that we always wanted a commander for. Hooded Blightfang from M21 would be a banger then because he makes every creature with deathtouch drain life on attack, granting you a lot of value.
@@planetfucksquad he's in green tho, which doesn't have as good deathtouch support. yeah, there's some dinky creatures with it, a couple that grant other creatures it, and of course, fynn, but that's really it. ideally a golgari deathtouch tribal commander would be the best, so then you can include fynn, hooded blightfang, archetype of finality, etc.
I could be wrong about this, but I think Dauthi Voidwalker does work because you can choose which trigger resolves first. So, if Mari and Dauthi's triggers both hit the stack, then you can have Mari's trigger resolve first exiling the creature with a hit counter. Then Dauthi tries to exile the card with a Void counter, but since it's already exiled, it can't do so again and fizzles. Unless I'm wrong, both work. So, Dauthi is 100% a card you can run with this commander, both to exile cards when Mari isn't on the field, and also to exile everything that Mari doesn't hit.
Kelsien the plague. Does this work with him? You're still killing the creature, they just go to exile instead of the Graveyard and all he looks for is death triggers
I think this commander is broken. for 3 mana. it's a little strong for the price. rouges are really good and a played creature type and idk it just seems a bit too strong for 3 mana
Eddie, why didn't you correct mitch about rift sower....second time today he's mentioned that card when he meant to say riftsweeper. Letting him do it once was questionable, but twice in two separate videos....come on Eddie, do better...
holy crap every commander in this set so far is a banger. Epic job wizards.
Save for zander who is awful and shouldn't exist
@@projectxon66 run interaction
@@coolblockWILL You need to stop him from even hitting the board to completely negate him, so you have to be in blue. If you fail to do that, even if you remove him immediately, he still ditches half your board unless you have exile effects. Just running interaction isn't enough, you have to tailor your deck specifically to stop him.
@@projectxon66 really wish he did something else, he's one of MTGs coolest characters in A LONG time.
@@astuteanansi4935 you can transform him in green and white. Or exile him. Red can steal him.
I was going to bring up Etrata. I'd say it makes her broken, but moreso it makes her actually playable.
@@Dragon_Fyre You can however run this *in* Etrata and just run a million tutors
I wanna put them in a prismatic bridge deck, bunch of removal and protection and maybe something to make etrata hastey every time she comes back from the deck. Sounds fun in my head.
@@MrMeeseeksthe1st Thank you for my next brew idea Mr. Meeseeks.
@@Bongus_Bubogus you're most certainly welcome, love to share ideas
Etrata is playable with ninjas, you ninjitsu AFTER dmg is dealt with her trigger on the stack
Jeez, all my years of playing magic since high school and I never would’ve expected the 3 most aggro colors combined (being Jund of course) would literally become a treasure trove lol
Something about black cards just make my heart beat faster. Definitely my favorite color and this breakdown was most enjoyable. Thanks for all the hard work you’ve done this spoiler season Mitch (and Eddie of course)
The ability is a triggered ability that checks when the creature dies. It doesn't replace the effect. That means it doesnt interact with death triggers in a way that hoses them.
Holy shit, the only thing remotely close to "Mercenary Tribal" over 20 years since the tribe was introduced. Might even be closer to 25 years by now, but don't quote me on that.
Yup, you got it right Mitch. Dauthi Voidwalker is a replacement effect, so it supercedes Mari's triggered effect. A complete nonbo unfortunately
@@MunchKING Valid points
I’d just hold back on playing him until they kill Mari and i can’t protect her, same with Gisa
I've been waiting so long for a mercenary tribal commander!
Throw in Conspiracy (the enchantment, not the card type) to change all cards in your deck and on the battlefield to Mercenary. Then use your Mercenary tutors to bring stuff out.
You are correct about Dauthi Voidwalker shutting off Mari's first ability. DV's ability is a replacement effect which happens first, then Mari would never even see the cards. If they were both replacement effects or both triggered abilities, then this would work as with replacement effects you decide the order in which they replace.
I don't think that's the case. Dauthi needs to see it "hit" the graveyard for its replacement affect, whereas Mari will see it die before it hits the graveyard
@@xhaser56 Nope, replacement effects will happen first, they have to as they replace that action that is about to happen. Trigger abilities happen after the game sees that event happen. Replacement effects also don't use the Stack, they just replace how something that would resolve from the Stack happens, whereas triggered abilities do add a new thing to the Stack.
@@ThisIsACommanderChannel thanks for the info!
@@xhaser56 Sure thing. It's crazy rules interactions like this that prompted me to create this channel and do what I can to help clear up confusion in Commander games. Glad to help out.
Assassins, Mercenaries and Rouges?
*Why not also Ninjas!??* *flips table
Just ordered a playset of etrata after seeing this, think I see a fun, wacky pioneer or modern deck in the works. Also ordered a fifth etrata for the commander deck I always wanted to make with her
At last, a deck for everyone's favorite Worm Mercenary, Death Charmer.
Out of all commanders so far, this is the one I most interested in (and the lady Cat)
I’ve been brewing both a Mercenary tribal deck and a Kelsian, the Plague deck. Back to the drawing board.
Going into my Queen Marchesa deck 😍
Hooded Blightfang is a non-tribal that goes great with this commander
I cannot wait to upgrade my bounty hunter deck with this
I've been looking for an interesting mono-black commander that interests me but isn't hated/Uber-expensive.
This seems like a good one.
My first deck I built was mono black.
The commander is Vito so it's all themed around gaining life and using that to deal damage. Although I might be swapping it around and move him to the 99 and make Krrik the commander.
I like this channel when it’s making cool budget decks but is anyone else kinda beat on the Eddie thing?
Pretty sure you mean Riftsweeper, yes? Rift Sower is a mana dork with suspend.
it works with voidwalker. Voidwalker is a replacement effect when it goes into the graveyard, and mari is a triggered ability when it dies (aka leaves battlefield for graveyard) the battlefield. so it actually should work, sorry had to edit because i didnt use proper words
No it doesn't work with voidwalker. REPLACEMENT effect means it doesnt die. so mari's triggered ability doesnt even go on the stack.
Im building a Kelsien deck right now... she is so perfect for him
Oh yes
Dies means goes to the graveyard. So Dauthi replaces that going to the graveyard with the card instead going to exile. No death trigger will occur while Voidwalker is out.
Yea no dauthi for this, more like assassin/vampire/rouge support
Hey Eddie, just wanted to say, I appreciate you.
Deathtouch tribal is an archetype that we always wanted a commander for. Hooded Blightfang from M21 would be a banger then because he makes every creature with deathtouch drain life on attack, granting you a lot of value.
Fynn the Fangbearer?
@@planetfucksquad he's in green tho, which doesn't have as good deathtouch support. yeah, there's some dinky creatures with it, a couple that grant other creatures it, and of course, fynn, but that's really it. ideally a golgari deathtouch tribal commander would be the best, so then you can include fynn, hooded blightfang, archetype of finality, etc.
I could be wrong about this, but I think Dauthi Voidwalker does work because you can choose which trigger resolves first. So, if Mari and Dauthi's triggers both hit the stack, then you can have Mari's trigger resolve first exiling the creature with a hit counter. Then Dauthi tries to exile the card with a Void counter, but since it's already exiled, it can't do so again and fizzles.
Unless I'm wrong, both work. So, Dauthi is 100% a card you can run with this commander, both to exile cards when Mari isn't on the field, and also to exile everything that Mari doesn't hit.
Dies means goes to the graveyard. Dauthi Voidwalker replaces a death trigger because it will never go to the graveyard.
@@DefenestrateWindows Oh, got it. NVM then. Just goes to show how a slight wording difference changes things.
@@DefenestrateWindows no dying happens before something enters the graveyard. Mari triggers first
@@tylerthejetsuarez8902 wrong
700.4. The term dies means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield.”
Bit of a flavor miss...but Umbris Fear Manifest would dig this card as well.
And of course "whenever" is a trigger word for Strionic resonator.
holy shit i wasn't even thinking about that, double hit counters means double the goodies :D
Let's not forget Kelsien! This lady turns Kelsien into a killing machine
Korvold must be very happy with al this synergy
how does a mana dork help you get exiled cards?
Queen Marchesa deck too.
Revel in riches... easy peasy treasure win
Proliferate is something that may be helpful here
Stop it, Eddie! You're "Killing" Mitch by working him so hard!!! (See what I did there? Zing!!!)
Kelsien the plague.
Does this work with him?
You're still killing the creature, they just go to exile instead of the Graveyard and all he looks for is death triggers
Changling outcast would be great in This deck
Kinda wish it was blue black but still really cool
this card is great in a Queen Marchesa deck i guess
Thats my plan!
Are mercenaries making a comeback
Dauthi Mercenary is of type Summon Knight.
So if I'm interpreting the flavor correctly... she's not a hitman, she's the one who manages all the other hitman contracts?
Is it always like that when a new set is coming or is this one very good? (long abstinent)
this card is going straight into my kilsein deck
This be good in my kelsien deck?
Maybe dockside extortionist will get reprinted
Gonti would be great too
Mildly bummed it doesn't count for ninjas but oh well
Love this channel
Right in my anawon deck
Get Mari to put hit cou ters then cast etrata once to end the game
Black got ramp D:
I'm gonna make a mono black assassins deck and call it assassin's creed. Mari will be the commander. 😂
Owen wanted me to tell you... don't ask who Joe is
Did anyone else think kiku synergy?
This card is IMMEDIATELY going into my negan deck
Murder she wrote.
The blame eddie's joke is really becoming stale...
I think this commander is broken. for 3 mana. it's a little strong for the price. rouges are really good and a played creature type and idk it just seems a bit too strong for 3 mana
Eddie, why didn't you correct mitch about rift sower....second time today he's mentioned that card when he meant to say riftsweeper. Letting him do it once was questionable, but twice in two separate videos....come on Eddie, do better...
sure glad I got vandalblast a month ago