Nerfed Or Buffed?! The Heck Is Hoyo Doing With Arlecchino?

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
  • An analysis About Arlecchino. SUBSCRIBE!
    00:00 Buffs Or Nerfs?
    05:00 New Team Calcs
    08:28 Final Thoughts
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  • @TheGenshinScientist
    @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому +29

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    • @ragingflare123
      @ragingflare123 2 місяці тому +2

      I swear Arlecchino has to be one of the most polarizing and controversial character based of her kit leak anticipation and the changes in beta following it

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ragingflare123 * Dehya left the chat

  • @_black_bird
    @_black_bird 2 місяці тому +771

    I've never seen someone fall into total despair so gradually over a videogame character that isn't even released yet, this is crazy

    • @cobaltstar_8281
      @cobaltstar_8281 2 місяці тому +62

      Dehya

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 місяці тому +92

      @@cobaltstar_8281dehya was just despair right from the start until the very bittern end. arlecchino at least reached joyful great levels during beta.

    • @dongarippo7279
      @dongarippo7279 2 місяці тому +16

      My analyses is that Mihoyo hates cool women that is in authorative or power. they know they sell but.. YES.. they also know they sell as does fatui and it's their last Fatui hot woman they can sell.. AAAh.. Are we gonna make her good or bad? What a crappy company! They can eat my dust. Clorinde will suck, but I will pull for her instead of nahida the lolli and boyband nevuelette.. Im.. Just.. Not.. Into.. That... At all!
      Edit: Mihiyo doesn't satisfy me.. Wuthering waves will for sure! Give me at least one good woman for a 50 bucks and you got my soul!

    • @timbles208
      @timbles208 2 місяці тому +4

      @@cobaltstar_8281 wrong

    • @Qopa
      @Qopa 2 місяці тому +4

      This video is actually illegal btw 😂.
      They could sue him for this if this was a normie company.

  • @RoseyPixels
    @RoseyPixels 2 місяці тому +762

    See you next week when she gets changed to an Electro Claymore user.

    • @ItsVab
      @ItsVab 2 місяці тому +63

      Cappuccino is Big Dori????

    • @professornuub
      @professornuub 2 місяці тому +28

      @@ItsVabBig Beidou

    • @CarlosAnglada
      @CarlosAnglada 2 місяці тому +23

      @@ItsVabthat comment sends shivers down my spine

    • @ItsVab
      @ItsVab 2 місяці тому +3

      @@CarlosAnglada you’re welcome ☺️

    • @schopenhauer5427
      @schopenhauer5427 2 місяці тому

      If so, then I'm pulling. Otherwise ez skip

  • @Lighter-vp7un
    @Lighter-vp7un 2 місяці тому +123

    Next arlecchino leak news be like*
    Arlecchino got removed in genshin. Now an npc in honkai star rail.

    • @jcp5302
      @jcp5302 2 місяці тому +8

      Boothill looks like the male version of her and is ironically also releasing next patch.

    • @Verydespicablegru
      @Verydespicablegru 2 місяці тому +2

      "New leak
      Arlecchino got turned into an npc so they went with signora instead"

  • @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
    @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA 2 місяці тому +82

    Honestly i think Arlecchino should have never gotten that first rework, like idk especially her burst feels so wack now, like the animation for her burst in insane and feels powerful, and before her first big rework her burst was a power-up where she would gain bond of life which felt fitting, like a burst with such an insane animation that feels like a power-up should be a power-up imo, but now it’s just a heal and a reset for her elemental skill, like it just feels disappointing :/

    • @alexprus7953
      @alexprus7953 Місяць тому

      Let's hope it at least deals good damage

    • @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA
      @ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA Місяць тому

      @@alexprus7953 Yeah but the past iteration just felt more fitting

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Місяць тому

      is it not a nuke like hu tao's ult?

  • @ironwoodkid9577
    @ironwoodkid9577 2 місяці тому +121

    This beta was so wild. I've never in the history of genshin, have seen a character go through so many changes in such a short amount of time. This is one of those "you just had to be there" moments for genshin community, up there with the 1st genshin anniversary fiasco

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero Місяць тому

      I've been playing since the game's first week, and I don't remember any anniversary fiasco.

    • @thebluescaptain
      @thebluescaptain Місяць тому +11

      @@OnigoroshiZero Really? The 1* spam on Playstore during 1st anniv?

    • @theartgoose
      @theartgoose Місяць тому +1

      Well at least it‘s something to talk about after the very clear disappointment that chiori was/is

    • @ironwoodkid9577
      @ironwoodkid9577 Місяць тому +6

      @@thebluescaptain bro slept through the qiqi fallen plague

    • @alexprus7953
      @alexprus7953 Місяць тому

      Don't forget the food delivery event lol

  • @felipematheuss
    @felipematheuss 2 місяці тому +213

    I knew it!!!
    That TGC would also go nuts with the amount of Arle changes 😢😂

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому +82

      It's TGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @ariariAkari
      @ariariAkari 2 місяці тому +54

      OMG!! I love your videos TCG!!

    • @daneonate5714
      @daneonate5714 2 місяці тому +26

      @@TheGenshinScientist i love you tcg!!!

    • @YaganFamski
      @YaganFamski 2 місяці тому +13

      ​Thanks for the info tcg!!!
      ​@@TheGenshinScientist

    • @leokoten
      @leokoten 2 місяці тому +9

      @@TheGenshinScientist I love you TCG!!

  • @shadibrahim1489
    @shadibrahim1489 2 місяці тому +182

    At this rate I wouldn’t be surprised if they changed her to Geo next beta. Never known a character change this much😂

    • @exiledkenkaneki701
      @exiledkenkaneki701 2 місяці тому +8

      Tbh In their defense they made a complex character 💀🤧

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 2 місяці тому +2

      @@exiledkenkaneki701 Especially with a mechanic that most folks don't even play around with....

    • @legendnbg97
      @legendnbg97 2 місяці тому +2

      @@javelinmaster2 95% of genshin players won't even be able to play her cuz of no healing. They'll just slap zhongli in her team and have less dps than yoimiya

  • @victonvictini5421
    @victonvictini5421 2 місяці тому +179

    Been watching you for a while. From the artifacts route guides, and your opinion on chars, i love the content you produce. Keep it up, have a good day!

  • @ragingflare123
    @ragingflare123 2 місяці тому +57

    Another well written and easy to understand video from TGS, for both new and veteran players alike. Really appreciate the content you churn out on a consistent basis and looking forward to more to come!

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому +4

      Damn thank you!!! Really appreciate the support!

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 2 місяці тому +1

      He deserves a 100k minimum, why can't mihoyo directly promote content creators like this

  • @Makudonartz
    @Makudonartz 2 місяці тому +30

    I dont think even arlecchino knows what her kit does anymore

  • @deadencicle
    @deadencicle 2 місяці тому +54

    I really appreciate how clearly you explain things, and how you share with us the team options you considered and the rotations you are developing.
    You also don’t forget to consider the practical uses of the teams, which is next level theory crafting when it is presented together with math. Seriously, this is something that is often overlooked.

  • @Alrechinomostbeloved
    @Alrechinomostbeloved 2 місяці тому +90

    Can they not change her
    FOR 5 MINUTES 🌚

    • @freewaytf
      @freewaytf 2 місяці тому +5

      i hope they change her still since she's really underwhelming currently

    • @Archangel657
      @Archangel657 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@freewaytfAgreed. They made Neuvelette mad OP with a fucking Kamehameha attack.

    • @Antithesismanifest
      @Antithesismanifest 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@freewaytf Yes she need some changes or she will become yet another Bennet hostage

    • @vngelnumbers
      @vngelnumbers 2 місяці тому +1

      @@freewaytf i haven't been keeping up with the changes, wasn't she better that neuvi for a while?

    • @masrgym8355
      @masrgym8355 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Archangel657 you think they will make another neuvillette that soon? lol

  • @yuugael4010
    @yuugael4010 2 місяці тому +25

    Crazy that she is lock from good support like Furina(can only heal via BoL) and Xianyun(need NA to reduce cool down) making her went back to basic buffer team like kazuha+bennet, makes me believe she will need actual future support chara

    • @banjoowo4001
      @banjoowo4001 2 місяці тому +2

      Can she use c2 furina?

    • @aliphki
      @aliphki 2 місяці тому +4

      HUH?! I didn't even realize this. It'd be a shame If she cant run well with Xianyun

    • @emiliabaran6830
      @emiliabaran6830 2 місяці тому +1

      Maybe Xbalanque??

    • @CryptoBudhhist
      @CryptoBudhhist 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@emiliabaran6830 I have a feeling that he would be Alhaitham/ Neuvillette of Natlan

    • @andyluan7183
      @andyluan7183 2 місяці тому

      Yeah pyro archon is most prolly going to be an atk% buffer without a circle impact

  • @yukiranine
    @yukiranine 2 місяці тому +82

    I can’t wait for arle burst to cost BoL stacks instead of energy and heals by jumping on release

    • @nier6472
      @nier6472 2 місяці тому +2

      Too much star rail i c

    • @NothingMeansNothingButNothing
      @NothingMeansNothingButNothing Місяць тому +2

      ​@@nier6472 just because character won't use energy doesn't mean its the same as Acheron.

  • @damaramu.
    @damaramu. 2 місяці тому +15

    I have a feeling that a lot of people are in for a VERY rude awakening when they build their Arlecchino and try her out in the abyss and have to reset again and again and again, because she keeps dying.

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому +1

      ? just use a shielder

    • @kinkane1976
      @kinkane1976 Місяць тому

      Guessing right now that Zhongli team will be her most used team in abyss even if the dmg is lower.
      Even at C1 Arle with IR bc she just can’t face tank things

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k Місяць тому +2

      @@pasumiya4087not really any good ones if you hate Zhongli

    • @Fr00stee
      @Fr00stee Місяць тому

      ​@@TheRoleplayer40klayla and tankfei have pretty beefy shields, idk how much shield kirara gives

  • @vemorphose1167
    @vemorphose1167 2 місяці тому +68

    Everyone in the community perfectly summarized rn: 0:00

  • @Typical7
    @Typical7 2 місяці тому +37

    complicated kit with endless changes? hoyo really fighting back against people who look at leaks

    • @christianjaybermudez6447
      @christianjaybermudez6447 2 місяці тому +1

      You really think they're purposely wasting time re tweaking her over and over when she is already anticipated to be a hit when released with mid kit or great kit her design alone would make her sell from hype, just to mess with leakers?

    • @Typical7
      @Typical7 2 місяці тому

      @@christianjaybermudez6447 aint reading allat

    • @user-rm3itr40rnd
      @user-rm3itr40rnd 2 місяці тому +3

      Hoyo just being clueless designing character's kit as always. But this time they're afraid to fuck up and hurt sales of their new highly anticipated cache cow so they keep twicking her to avoid shitstorm from disappointed simps. Well, Dehya was not so lucky.

    • @kabuuj3400
      @kabuuj3400 2 місяці тому +1

      @@user-rm3itr40rnd What does clueless mean?

    • @OnigoroshiZero
      @OnigoroshiZero Місяць тому

      @@user-rm3itr40rnd learn about game developing first, and come again. You are the only one clueless here.

  • @shiverstan5804
    @shiverstan5804 2 місяці тому +18

    He's so real for that intro cause I'm ngl, I stopped trying after the first changes 😭

  • @baguette_connoisseur
    @baguette_connoisseur 2 місяці тому +36

    Can't wait for those Arlecchino runs against Consecrated Beasts.
    Very high-quality videos! Easy to digest information too.

    • @alexferrier5732
      @alexferrier5732 2 місяці тому +10

      Will have to have a shielder or otherwise 💀💀💀
      Consecrated beasts don't fuck around, they are all business

    • @animatedamons470
      @animatedamons470 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@alexferrier5732 For the first time,my zhongli shield shattered multiple times during a fight

    • @supernieva2419
      @supernieva2419 2 місяці тому +3

      No damage run will be good to watch with Arlenchino

    • @H2Ocup
      @H2Ocup Місяць тому

      Coppelia:

  • @Elrog3
    @Elrog3 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for all the work you put in and the clear summary you provided!

  • @Nan00kami
    @Nan00kami 2 місяці тому

    Props to you for covering all changes in a short timespan. I would've given up on covering the changes and just made a video 2 days before the banner.

  • @Aranaranjito
    @Aranaranjito 2 місяці тому +7

    0:00 HAHA your expression was exactly like mine when I saw her new modifications (again..)

  • @soapsoul8375
    @soapsoul8375 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video. I'm looking forward to the new video on Arlecchino changes tomorrow as well. I hope they make her a hydro Claymore that scales with flat defense and geo damage!

  • @Darkmec003
    @Darkmec003 2 місяці тому +3

    Was waiting for ur vid the whole day 🫶🏼

  • @fooo0p
    @fooo0p 2 місяці тому +12

    Take care of yourself TGS!! Thanks for the guide once again, phew - Arle going through so much changes it's crazy..
    to be honest I am not too happy about the circle impact I am seeing (I don't blame you though or anyone for that matter). I am just done with bennett man I've been playing him for years hahaha. But I guess someone can finally make use of the c6 bennett I have. Of course I have diluc (with xianyun) but it just feels so much better not having to set up rotations again after killing an opponent and the other mobs spawning on the other side of the room (with a xiao team)

  • @TissueFc
    @TissueFc 2 місяці тому +81

    Leaker : She a big Hu Tao
    beta : she a melee Yoimiya > She a pyro alhitham > she Yoimiya again
    Me : fuck this shit dud, imma save for Furina

    • @felipepoffo
      @felipepoffo 2 місяці тому +3

      go ahead and good luck

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy 2 місяці тому +27

      Rerun>new character always

    • @james-bx4wr
      @james-bx4wr 2 місяці тому +12

      Furina >

    • @mauronoacontaldomurgia8476
      @mauronoacontaldomurgia8476 2 місяці тому +3

      yoimiya? LMAO

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 місяці тому +11

      @@RKNancyyes, rerun > new characters. rerun characters have been further tested many times in-game, and are tried and proven (their pros and cons). i get a better idea of who to pull during reruns.

  • @RKNancy
    @RKNancy 2 місяці тому +72

    There was no Alpha test for Arlecchino. That's the only explanation for her excessive kit changes. Everyone at Hoyo Genshin was probably on a extended CNY vacation.

    • @r.d.6290
      @r.d.6290 2 місяці тому +13

      Same as with Dehya. Can they at least err on the overpower side instead of underpower this time?😂

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@r.d.6290sorry , not a male character

    • @lucasstafford2160
      @lucasstafford2160 2 місяці тому +3

      I love spreading misinformation and baseless rumors 😊

    • @RKNancy
      @RKNancy 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@lucasstafford2160 It is common knowledge that people in China take long vacations during CNY to meet up with their families. It's not exactly misinformation. It's a speculation.

    • @thomaskennedy5728
      @thomaskennedy5728 Місяць тому

      ​​​@@goddamnarshiacrazy how before Sumeru,only female character were op dps which was true for whole v1.x and v2.x and last till v3.6 with the exception of childe. All changed after release of alhaitham.

  • @xcritical3137
    @xcritical3137 2 місяці тому +2

    Tbh I was completely lost and just wanted to wait for her release after all these changes thanks for clearing things up :)) great video tgs!

  • @itztwizzy1133
    @itztwizzy1133 2 місяці тому +2

    nice explanation on the changes. thanks. subbed.

  • @coffeemug1012
    @coffeemug1012 2 місяці тому +11

    Thank you for saving us science man

  • @dinbachok6424
    @dinbachok6424 2 місяці тому +53

    Honestly after seeing all this i'm just amazed how good a character hu tao is.

    • @felipepoffo
      @felipepoffo 2 місяці тому +19

      without C1 hu tao is terrible to play

    • @StanleyG23
      @StanleyG23 2 місяці тому +54

      ​​​@@felipepoffoC0 Hu Tao still works great with Xianyun though and is honestly pretty fun in combination with her.

    • @danahassan3038
      @danahassan3038 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@StanleyG23than do the same with arlecchino, xianyun can be used with both

    • @Heatranoveryou
      @Heatranoveryou 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@felipepoffophone gamer

    • @expertag8353
      @expertag8353 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@StanleyG23yeah but that's with a 5 stat support. C0 r0 hu tao does have a good f2p team (granted xingqiu xiangling bennett are never on banners) but her playstyle and damage are not as great compared to other c0 r0 characters

  • @adeniyimarvellous8259
    @adeniyimarvellous8259 2 місяці тому +41

    At this point I am scared of pulling for arlechinno

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 місяці тому +9

      that’s a valid concern.

    • @loreyxillumina
      @loreyxillumina 2 місяці тому +2

      I gave up and pulled for Neuvillette today, currently saving up for Baizhu/Other healers and C2 Furina.

    • @animatedamons470
      @animatedamons470 2 місяці тому +2

      Just wait till the last week of her banner or wait for the rerun

    • @supernieva2419
      @supernieva2419 2 місяці тому

      Just go for pyro archon or wait for her rerun.

    • @masrgym8355
      @masrgym8355 2 місяці тому

      @@loreyxillumina lmao what

  • @furinasimp101
    @furinasimp101 2 місяці тому +12

    Yeah that vape team is not happening. Hope you all have Zhongli!

  • @Emerald29
    @Emerald29 2 місяці тому +10

    Actually concerning they dont know what to do with her

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 Місяць тому +4

    I’m not gonna lie, her healing is absolutely pitiful.
    50% of BoL + 150% of attack means she’s pretty much guaranteed to die over and over in abyss.
    Hoyo just screwed her over so damn bad with their stupid “no healing” mechanic on her. Hu Tao STILL OUTDAMAGES HER. And Hu Tao can heal if necessary. Arlecchino not being able to heal, especially on a low hp character, is just bad game design. It’s going to feel bad to play unless they change it. Add more damage resist and healing. She needs to be able to heal like 80% of her hp if she can only do it from her own burst once every 15 seconds. And that should be with low bond not high bond.

  • @Tomioka_Giyu_69
    @Tomioka_Giyu_69 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much ;) ❤❤

  • @alexferrier5732
    @alexferrier5732 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm kinda worried about how confy will she be to play in overworld. I know in abyss she will be great since on whole rotations she won't struggle to always have infusion.
    But in overworld, that 30 seconds CD skill is giving me Childe cooldown PTSD

  • @prinniesforeveryone321
    @prinniesforeveryone321 2 місяці тому +11

    Genshin is really in class for How to scare people from pulling a new character 101.
    No way i would pull her on release. I was excited about her at first but i don't like all the changes and how she's basically just another hu tao.

    • @batter123
      @batter123 2 місяці тому +1

      Worse than hutao, she have yoimiya dmg and hutai fragileness

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому

      @@batter123 her damage is better than yoimiya

    • @batter123
      @batter123 Місяць тому

      @@pasumiya4087 better than hutao too?

    • @NothingMeansNothingButNothing
      @NothingMeansNothingButNothing Місяць тому +1

      ​​​@@pasumiya4087 Her fragile gameplay doesn't seem rewarding enough.
      At least Yoimiya doesn't handicap herself from getting healed, and Hu Tao want to have a lot of HP to compensate for their fragile traits

    • @rit821
      @rit821 Місяць тому +1

      Chill the calculations are at lower middle or something she will definitely power creep hutao but not gonna work in many teams by now

  • @Heatranoveryou
    @Heatranoveryou 2 місяці тому +5

    This is the real genshin content

  • @N0XEL
    @N0XEL 2 місяці тому +2

    better keep an eye on the pre install patch notes cause at this rate there's gonna be arlecchino changes there too.

  • @lukea9343
    @lukea9343 2 місяці тому +3

    Double BoL stack never work in game in the first place, since Q clear BoL in previous version as well. it’s only TC from leak description.
    So it’s not even a nerf. 70% BoL with higher multiplier vs. 135% BoL with lower mult.

  • @LongDeadArtist
    @LongDeadArtist 2 місяці тому +1

    Not sure if I should go for her now. I got myself a Neuvilette and now most Characters I want are Hydro (Siegwienne, Yelan, possibly Emilie) and now I'm just confused. Thank you for clarifying with this video!

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому

      emilie is not hydro, she's dendro

    • @LongDeadArtist
      @LongDeadArtist Місяць тому

      @@pasumiya4087 I know she may not be, so I wrote possibly since I didn't keep up with leaks on her. :P

  • @keneunaegbu851
    @keneunaegbu851 2 місяці тому +6

    Imagine all this just to be on par with Hu Tao 😂

  • @arifreggit
    @arifreggit 2 місяці тому +32

    Longer rotation but can't be healed 🗿🗿
    Number are not the only thing matter, what makes Nuevillete/Alhaitam/Raiden teamcomp good is easy to play and comfort.
    I think she really need Zhongli in her teamcomp.

    • @smanitagorolebglawal309
      @smanitagorolebglawal309 2 місяці тому +2

      Her rotations got shorter, yae fischl chev is just cope. But yes she's fragile

    • @Darkmec003
      @Darkmec003 2 місяці тому +16

      Not everyone want easy mode tbh
      In my opionion Nuevillete is just super boring n i would never play a char like him
      I love the Combat in genshin n Nuevillete skip this Element
      So absolut no sense for me to play chars like him

    • @pyronado4320
      @pyronado4320 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Darkmec003agree with you but hoyo wants to sell this thing to everyone and everyone wants her too, it might not be a nice situation on her release

    • @mr.parker8014
      @mr.parker8014 2 місяці тому

      ​@@smanitagorolebglawal309 what else would you do with her? Are you saying vape is significantly better than chev?

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 2 місяці тому +2

      Raiden and comfort don’t belong in the same sentence 💀

  • @klonrymeryme5293
    @klonrymeryme5293 Місяць тому +2

    Genshin character designer having existential crisis design Arle's kit while Childe, the first snez playable character they don't have much confusion designing his kit. the designer afraid pyro character too good like Hu Tao but also too afraid to make it too bad like Dehya, the pyro curse just getting stronger, see you in Natlan to see the curse erupted.

  • @zain3x
    @zain3x 2 місяці тому

    0:16 HYV: no. this is i'm fighting leak :'v
    btw, good works TGS, keep the spirit up :D

  • @goddamnarshia
    @goddamnarshia 2 місяці тому +8

    Where was this attitude when they were designing Neuvilette ? Looking around the community , they've buffed and nerfed her and Redone her entire kit so many times that a lot of people have lost the hype. She was one of the most anticipated characters in the game btw
    One would think a character with no IR , unable to heal, small aoe and no shielder in the overload team they seem to be alluding to would have insane damage to compensate for all that.

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому +1

      she literally only kept getting buffs, what are you talking about? and if a character getting changed in BETA makes you lose the hype, then that's entirely on you. you're literally not supposed to be aware of the beta, it's called testing for a reason
      i do agree with you on your second point tho

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Місяць тому +3

      @@pasumiya4087 she was at her highest point at v3 , then got massively nerfed , and now buffed to where she was at around v1. She went in a circle and it gives the impression they don't know what the fuck they're doing with her and the last time they didn't know what they wanted with a character we got dehya and launch kokomi (who had to cope with sukukomon, a VERY accidental and very janky team comp until nilou rolled around) . All the nerfs are also extremely unnecessary considering she was never at any point the best 5 star pyro dps anyway but came with MORE restrictions

    • @elmervelazquez3549
      @elmervelazquez3549 Місяць тому

      nope. firstly the v3 is this, secondly in v2 she was garbage, cz there was a bug that actually was not a bug but a feature. if in v0 she was a 100, in v2 was a 95 and now she is a 120 @@goddamnarshia

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Місяць тому

      @@elmervelazquez3549 nah dawg there was a nerf along the way, this isn't the 3rd iteration of her kit. It's probably documented on TGS channel

    • @elmervelazquez3549
      @elmervelazquez3549 Місяць тому

      @@goddamnarshia v0 arlecchino arrives, v1 they add her new dash and overhealing, v2 kit rwork, v3 kit rework. In developent all start in 0 not in 1. And she was not nerfed cz she never was buffed

  • @rafaelbittencourtmiranda4338
    @rafaelbittencourtmiranda4338 2 місяці тому +4

    I kinda liked that the previous version made Bennett not a necessity, guess we back to Bennett Impact boys.

  • @youraverageguy4930
    @youraverageguy4930 2 місяці тому

    Thank god I ended up not doing pre-release calcs like other characters I liked, despite wanting to. She's probably had more changes to any character they've released so far.

  • @Opti-Miser
    @Opti-Miser 2 місяці тому +2

    At this point im just gonna wait for her first rerun LOL

  • @AkiraN19
    @AkiraN19 2 місяці тому +4

    Good job everyone! I think we've discovered the 6th stage of grief

  • @hedgeyes6411
    @hedgeyes6411 2 місяці тому +6

    THE ARLECHANGES CONTINUE
    Two things: You forgot the change the "C6 Chev Fav" on the C1 Chevy graph, which briefly confused me.
    Second, if you're looking into shielded teams for Arlecchino, how's Layla? I recall there being a double hydro Layla team for Hu Tao that sounds vaguely relevant in this situation. I like Layla's high uptime on TOTM and decent personal damage at C6, so knowing how that measures up to Zhongli would be cool.

    • @thegreatbum2446
      @thegreatbum2446 Місяць тому

      Layla forces short rotations, could be a problem, especially for a fragile character like Arle. Probably the only shielders that can work with her are Zhongli and Thoma as their shields last longer.

  • @MUGEN44
    @MUGEN44 2 місяці тому

    heya TGS thanks for the bid! just recently subbed to you and love your contents, i'm not too big into the intricacies of the game but your explanations always makes it easier to digest!
    if you don't mind me asking, for the Overload team option, do you think there's a good option for Yae replacement? maybe Bennett or Beidou?

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому

      Beidou and bennett are fine in the shorter rotation versions

    • @MUGEN44
      @MUGEN44 2 місяці тому

      @@TheGenshinScientist do you have calcs for non premium teams by any chance?

  • @outlaw3679
    @outlaw3679 2 місяці тому +2

    At this point I just wait until release

  • @kyon-kyon71
    @kyon-kyon71 2 місяці тому +4

    We really need the Fu Xuan version in the game. Dehya could’ve been a really great alternative to Zhongli if they didn’t made their extra effort to make her worse.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 Місяць тому +3

      yeah like all dehya needs to be good is either team healing through burst and/or Passive and some buffing.

    • @kyon-kyon71
      @kyon-kyon71 Місяць тому +1

      @@usmanya5110 also her skill uptime sucks.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 Місяць тому

      @@kyon-kyon71 that too.

  • @kevinknowsit
    @kevinknowsit 2 місяці тому +4

    my god hoyoverse is STRESSING this man OUT lmaoooo

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 2 місяці тому +1

    Arlecchino: Leave me alone!
    *More Arlecchino changes*
    Arlecchino: AAAAAAHHHHHHHH

  • @felipepoffo
    @felipepoffo 2 місяці тому

    I think you should have talked about her ST, I think it has improved.

  • @TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya
    @TsaritsaTheSnezhnaya Місяць тому

    Can you make a video for C1 and Signature Weapon comparison according to 4.5.54 change ?

  • @AJ_._._
    @AJ_._._ 2 місяці тому +2

    Bond of life... bond of life... its in my head

  • @SingularityHRT
    @SingularityHRT 2 місяці тому +2

    Now the question I have is. How better is She than Hutao in Vape and Lyney in Mono-Pyro as They are the staples in those team comps. I was saving and planning to pick up Lyney but now it seems both will be on the same banner cycle and She can also be a Mono-Pyro carry. I hope there is an analysis on that as well once the kit is finalised (if it ever is).

    • @dendenmushi9714
      @dendenmushi9714 Місяць тому

      She sheets more than Lyney going with TGS but less with Jstern.
      Less than Hu Tao too.
      But practice maybe be different.

  • @RafidW9
    @RafidW9 2 місяці тому +1

    Hoyo everytime they change Arleccino: I got one more in me

  • @lowtzechien5308
    @lowtzechien5308 2 місяці тому +1

    4.6 beta is turning TGS from analysing Arlechinno to becoming Arlechinno

  • @dracul1838
    @dracul1838 2 місяці тому +3

    she get more and more wierd,now i will save my premogems and try her if she is released,but if i dont like her from gameplay,i will just save my primo´s to get Navia over C0.

  • @Thunderlight_333
    @Thunderlight_333 2 місяці тому

    8:20 isn't the Q now takes the effect? It will take the E effect after the teams setup then you are gonna use a CA with no benefits. + Which of these teams is the BEST with the best rotation doesn't matter if it's long or short

  • @wefen18
    @wefen18 2 місяці тому

    Do we know how all her weapon options and constellations change her damage and ease of use now?

  • @Youndz.
    @Youndz. 2 місяці тому

    When you'll make artifacts and wp ranking for her? Thank you

  • @samrockwell940
    @samrockwell940 Місяць тому

    I was busy with life & work so don't know what's happening in leaks community side of things
    & Watching this video felt like *inserts* 'Community Troy Enters Burning Room With Pizza Meme'

  • @qu4tre_
    @qu4tre_ 2 місяці тому +6

    I'm looking forward playing her in an overload team with clorinde

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 2 місяці тому

      Off field electro ? Don't have many of those

    • @res6148
      @res6148 2 місяці тому

      Honestly, this goes against what you want but I hope shes a quickswap with high dps and dpr for the moment’s that she is on field. (Like 6-8s)

    • @andyluan7183
      @andyluan7183 2 місяці тому

      First clorinde leak: big fischl

    • @qu4tre_
      @qu4tre_ 2 місяці тому

      @@andyluan7183 yeah i also heard that she boosts overload dmg

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому +1

      i hope clorinde is a support just to see her simps mald

  • @1Cent83
    @1Cent83 2 місяці тому

    If you haven’t taken a considerable amount of damage by the end of the rotation, would it not be better to skip burst?

  • @KeresztesVipera
    @KeresztesVipera 2 місяці тому

    Right now , as i can imagine a team for her is Alre-Chev-Thoma-Fischl! Without a shielder it would be very very tricky to play her! A few hit and by you're dead! I can just hope Thoma will be enough to keep her alive(btw his c6 not a bad thing with Alre , +15% normal attack damage to the team while in his shield)

  • @aurelia2132
    @aurelia2132 Місяць тому

    Is it viable to use Dehya as her second Pyro, consolidating Bennett's and Zhongli's roles somewhat? Dehya provides some double pyro utility and some sustain (presumably she still soaks part of Arle's damage, and provides interruption resistance), which could allow for teammates like Kazuha and Yelan more comfortably. I know Dehya is universally known to be Not Great, but I'm wondering if there could be a use case here.
    Or would Thoma be the better way to go?

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 2 місяці тому +5

    lol a melee character that fragile against Coppelia good luck with that. she might be the first character in Genshin that the no elemental synergy bonus is actually valuable.

  • @masterduelzero1795
    @masterduelzero1795 2 місяці тому

    How would she do in an OverVape team? I imagine that Beidou and Xingqiu would be great partners for her since it boosts her sustainability!

  • @firmanang9132
    @firmanang9132 Місяць тому

    TGS San should i still pull for her if i have C1R1 Hutao?

  • @lafeechloe6998
    @lafeechloe6998 2 місяці тому +5

    Hey TGS ! What do you think about thundering fury Arlecchino ? from my calculations she should be able to use her E every 9 seconds, gaining more average and absolute BoL. She should even be able to reach 200% in some cases. Is it competitive with her signature set ?

    • @skyhart9926
      @skyhart9926 2 місяці тому +3

      That’s actually not a bad idea. Thundering Fury Arlecchino

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 2 місяці тому

      ​@@skyhart9926 especially with the amount of electro app from Fischl and Yae.

    • @andyluan7183
      @andyluan7183 2 місяці тому +1

      Zajef crying of happy reading your comment 😭

  • @goddamnarshia
    @goddamnarshia 2 місяці тому +6

    Calling it now. There will be a male aoe pyro dps in natlan that also does more damage than arle

    • @pasumiya4087
      @pasumiya4087 Місяць тому +1

      why is arle the focus? hu tao is the strongest pyro dps lol

    • @ssHadoWYTx
      @ssHadoWYTx Місяць тому

      Pyro archon 😂

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Місяць тому +1

      @@pasumiya4087 aoe is the important part. Its a no brainer to make arle the aoe pyro dps and not infringe on hutao's territory , but as we've been seeing WAAAAY too many times for the past two years , top tier and unique dps kits are reserved for male characters while females are lucky to BE anything other than support.

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Місяць тому +2

      @@ssHadoWYTx wouldn't be surprised if they replace ANOTHER female archon with a male counterpart

  • @jennamicieli2931
    @jennamicieli2931 2 місяці тому +6

    I think at this point, I’m going to be forced to hold off on pulling her until she comes out. She seems too much of a risk to pull now with Genshin clearly not knowing what to do with her. I feel like she will be very broken when she comes out or she will be kind of garbage, but I don’t trust Hoyo with their ability to balance a character

    • @TheRoleplayer40k
      @TheRoleplayer40k Місяць тому

      How were you going to pull for her before she came out? lol.

  • @kinkane1976
    @kinkane1976 Місяць тому +1

    She feels like an actual glass canon with her ceiling being high in exchange for the high risk.
    Most ppl are probably going to run Zhongli bc it sounds torturous to not run shield with how fragile she seems. Either that or ppl will ignore the bond reset and just use her burst on cooldown to keep her alive

  • @lastadmiral4432
    @lastadmiral4432 2 місяці тому

    Does the skill reset only if the enemy has a bond of life?
    If not, why can't we just do a charge attack then burst then E

  • @zaxillius6062
    @zaxillius6062 Місяць тому

    did her bug get fixed? the one where where people were saying if they changed it or not

  • @braveguerrier9650
    @braveguerrier9650 2 місяці тому

    I feel like for C2+ it's mostly a buff because every rotations are "long type" rotations, idk we'll see that

  • @arlecchino7936
    @arlecchino7936 Місяць тому +2

    It almost feel like they're doing this on purpose to 5* female pyro characters as if they wanna keep their precious Liyue 5* at the top. I'm worried about the pyro archon lol

  • @fockingweeb2531
    @fockingweeb2531 Місяць тому

    do you think beidou fischl can work in that long double electro rotation?

  • @kyon-kyon71
    @kyon-kyon71 2 місяці тому +4

    They rushed her or wasn’t prepared enough. They always use events to test out coming character kits. The BOL mechanic isn’t material enough for players to actually care before. It’s a just a mechanic that people usually neglect since the start of Fontaine. They should’ve made an event where it was the primary gimmick to test it out. Now Arlecchino is having a hard time to balance this new mechanic, they’re having trouble testing it. They should’ve released a 4 ⭐️ character with it or just an event that is BOL-centric. Although I believe Natlan characters will use BOL in their kits as well, Arlecchino will pave the way for Natlan. She’s going to be the sacrificial goat and test subject for Natlan, how the community will perceive it and improve it in Natlan characters. This happened to Yae Miko, her kit only ever matures during the release of Dendro and Sumeru. I guess Arlecchino will still get better in Natlan once her proper supports are out. But again, she will be restricted since she’s the pioneer of BOL and prototype. Of course she’s gonna have issues that isn’t gonna be perceived until released and the newer characters with BOL mechanic will have those issues resolved. Like when Alhaitham, Nahida, and Tighnari have better split scaling than Yae Miko and Ayato. How Yelan and newer characters scale totally on HP and Ayato got the end of the stick by having horrible split scaling. I’m not saying Arlecchino is gonna be worse than future characters but as the pioneer, others are really going to have better usage of BOL

    • @mkgaming5823
      @mkgaming5823 Місяць тому

      Mechanics are region specific
      BoL is on some fontaine weapons and is on a fontaine character
      Its a fontaine mechanic
      It wont appear on Natlan characters

    • @kyon-kyon71
      @kyon-kyon71 Місяць тому

      @@mkgaming5823 we’ll see.

  • @NotAName1
    @NotAName1 Місяць тому

    I’m really curious to see how Beidou looks in a Chevreuse team with her. Most people are going to feel the need for some defensive utility for her, I don’t think Yae will be a popular choice for enemies that can be aggressive

  • @KobeniGaming
    @KobeniGaming 2 місяці тому +11

    bro can you start comparing characters and teams? I have no idea how good 75k dps or whatever it was in a vacuum. if you could showcase a hutao/alhaitam/whatever similar team, it would put into context how good her numbers are

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому +29

      She's one of my highest sheeting characters, around Al Haitham level. Honestly don't want to put teams side by side so soon anymore that much because I feel like it can be misleading to say "this is better than y" if the char isn't out anymore, but I kind of assumed ppl who watched my videos before sort of know my numbers

    • @spacebanana712
      @spacebanana712 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TheGenshinScientist she maybe is one of the strongest on paper, but her survivability is a massive issue rn, I hope they make a character that helps her in that aspect.

    • @czarson6694
      @czarson6694 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@TheGenshinScientistbtw what are your wanderer numbers, i don't think i ever saw them,.

    • @hachiruru8745
      @hachiruru8745 2 місяці тому +2

      75k dps team is what you could say overkill for 36* abyss, especially if it has aoe. For experienced players, 50k dps is more than enough. 80k+ dps teams are basically almost cheating already.

    • @zeromailss
      @zeromailss 2 місяці тому +1

      Ye but that is with 4 star at c0. Fortunately only C1 R1 ol C2 Chara can go beyond 80k rn
      70 is above average as 50-60k is the most common dps for most team

  • @Sofia8687
    @Sofia8687 2 місяці тому

    I just got a double neuvilete soooo I don't think I will be getting her anytime soon , whatever her kit is .😅

  • @archer433
    @archer433 Місяць тому

    Make a video on neuvillette vs arlecchino who is stronger

  • @miftachulrahman2511
    @miftachulrahman2511 2 місяці тому +2

    I am here. Again 😂

  • @ketansingh5220
    @ketansingh5220 2 місяці тому

    One question, how much behind gladiator on her compare to her bis ?

  • @reece5634
    @reece5634 2 місяці тому +3

    Damn, what they doing to her? 😭 might as well just pull for Neuvi, but eh, still hoping she turns out decent. Least she’s not another Deyha 🙂

    • @user-et2tt5ts9t
      @user-et2tt5ts9t 2 місяці тому +3

      Shes Dehya. Strange, stupid kit and bad normal attack in terms of impact

  • @GabeIG
    @GabeIG 2 місяці тому

    I'm getting this feeling of déjà vu but maybe it's just me

  • @bryghian
    @bryghian 2 місяці тому

    an effing roller coaster

  • @Extroditastic
    @Extroditastic Місяць тому

    Can Arlecchino use Chevreuse's c6?
    I was looking at it and Chevreuse needs to heal the ally for her to stack the %dmg bonus

  • @AlejandroBravo0
    @AlejandroBravo0 2 місяці тому +8

    Dmg wise she got buffed, but throughout all the changes she lost some of her qol and cool things that at some point she had
    She's stronger but I personally don't really care about her kit and gameplay anymore sadge
    Her animations are still cool though

    • @overhaul8416
      @overhaul8416 2 місяці тому +6

      what qol and cool things that she lost?

    • @AlejandroBravo0
      @AlejandroBravo0 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@overhaul8416​ v2 was my fav version when she had the unfinished charged attack animation where she could hover for a long time while looking like the grim reaper, but that part was just funny, that doesn't bother me really.
      I do hate that the cd of the skill is 30s but you can decrease it. Like sure, normally it would end up being a more normal cd like 15s but then what's the point of making it long to decrease it later? All it adds is the inconvenience of having a longer cd that fucks over your rotation and particle generation when you're fighting annoying enemies that move a lot or that you can't hit for other reasons.
      Healing being restricted to burst instead of skill is also annoying, especially taking into account that's her only way of healing, it means you can't even end a floor with your skill to both get energy and heal, now if you wanna heal you need to waste burst.
      They are just small annoyances that will make her feel worse only in some situations, I acknowledge it's very nitpicky, but considering all the onfielders that exist in the game, it's hard for me to be excited about one that in some situations is gonna feel very bad to play, and even in the situations where she feels good she's nothing special in the first place.
      Still considering pulling for her though, since I don't have anything better to do until WuWa comes out.

  • @TayTay-oq6zd
    @TayTay-oq6zd 2 місяці тому

    Can somebody answer my question. Does using her burst while you have a bond of life, the burst will clear your bond of life and heal you? second while you have over 30% bond of life and you switch will the bond of life be cleared and you will lose your pyro infusion?

  • @leonardomeloni69
    @leonardomeloni69 2 місяці тому

    Hey there amichevole ragazzo della magggica Terronia, what are the assumptions for these calcs? There is quite a gap between these results and Jstern's results

    • @TheGenshinScientist
      @TheGenshinScientist  2 місяці тому

      detract 2s from my vape team and you have the same dps. The assumption is longer rotation time.

    • @leonardomeloni69
      @leonardomeloni69 2 місяці тому

      @@TheGenshinScientist Thank you, my bad I didnt notice it was a longer time ahaha

  • @taqresu5865
    @taqresu5865 2 місяці тому

    At this point I'm wondering if Hoyoverse is playing an elaborate April Fools prank on us.