What's The BEST Element In Genshin Impact? Tier List
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displaying her mastery over both quantum and gambling, qingque sends a quantumnado whirling around her. The quantumnado will move with your character for the ability's duration, dealing quantum dmg to all opponents in its path.
Hydro before Fontaine: best element in the game
Hydro after Fontaine: best element in the game... by a LOT
Pretty much this. It was always the best element in the game. But instead of buffing other elements, hydro got even more buffed.
Then came Yelan, Furina, Neuvilette... Best DPS Support, Best Support and Best Damage dealer... All in a nice hydro package.
It's hoyo's favorite child!!
Neuv is bit cringe
It was a fail to make a char so op with very low effort
So much ppl want Neuv to fk everything, even they not good at all
The only reason to play harder Chars rn is to challenge urself
They rly should nerf him, its just not fair for every other dd in the Game
@Darkmec003 "tHEy rLy ShOuLD nErF hIM" it's a mobile gacha game that requires no skill, go play a real game if you want an actual challenge 🤡
@@Darkmec003Womp womp, go cry about it.
Naw bruh even b4 that
"Electro owes Dendro lunch money" had me weak
As a Keqing main from launch, Baizhu and Yaoyao were a saving grace LOL
Imo, Kirara is a better Keqing teammate than either, particularly at C6 where she just adds more damage than Baizhu, has good personal damage herself that Baizhu lacks, and adds enough defensive utility to a tram that really doesn't need heavy handed healing those two provide because of so much uptime. C6 Kirara Keqing C6 Fischl Kazuha is the optimal Keqing aggravate comp, imo.
the tierlist that doesnt offend anybody cuz literally everyone in the community agrees on the placements
really love how you didn't explain anything about hydro.
you were like "it's pretty self-explanatory'
Hydro not only has the most number of reactions, but also the best characters.
It’s basically a cheat code.
It has also the most 5* characters. Like there is 8 hydro 5*, electro only 4, lol.
That's only half of the story. If we consider Hydro the best element giving us only 3 4* hydro units is a crime! XQ is good and all, but new players can guarantee his copy only once he apears in the shop or during lantern light (+ they need to prepare 2nd team for Abyss), also the other 2 4* units are kind of bad (Barbara & Candace). Maybe Hoyo knows hydro is one of if not the best element and because of that they want it to be comprised of mainly 5 stars so that people have to spend more pulls
I have but one name for you: Yelan!
@@UnclePunchalotI don't want another good 4 star hydro considering how broken xinque already is. Hydro already has the best characters, plenty of the best dpses and supports
@alatus_knight dude it's highly unlikely that devs will add new 4* units as strong as 1.0 4*-titans Bennett, XQ & Xiangling. Still any non crappy 4* hydro character (not Candace-Barbara lvl of power) will benefit new players.
Its really easy to tell how broken Hydro is by just saying: "Imagine the game without Hydro"
exactly. Hydro owns 90% of the reactions.
The game would feel dry without hydro
Quicken: I have no such weaknesses!
Yea and imagine real life without hydro aswell
@@alpha4935the 10% left😂
“”Looks at the elements color””
Hold up. Wait a min.
Hydro having most of the best characters won't be a surprise if hydro is ranked 1 here
My man, the amount the character ain’t the reason.
Hydro litteraly got
Best DPS in game
2 Best Apllicators in game
The Best Buffer in Game
And Nilou
Pyro and Anemo have lots of chars, but they are not THAT great as those ones
@@Uefetithey said most of the BEST characters, not the most characters
@@Uefeti Also things like Pyro and electric can be annoying, fun but annoying. Water just works great with everything.
@@levi3248 That's not to say quantity doesn't matter. Well if you have 100 awesome hydro characters, and there is 10 awesome pyro characters. It will be easier to find best hydro characters assuming they are trying to balance them all and not making pyro intentionally better.
@@dongarippo7279 yeah but the main reason is that all the 5* are good. Quality > quantity (quantity matter but it’s not a reason by itself to make hydro the best). Like even the worst 5* ayato is a really good dps (just not top tier) and all the other 5* are broken in one way or another
wow hydro got mentioned for literally 5 seconds, that element must be trash.
😂😂😂
Love that hydro didn't need any explanation on how broken an element it is 🎉
BTW tgs covering hsr ? Let's go baby
I wonder when he’ll make a channel called The Star Rail Scientist
@@youngnapoleon1774he's already done it
@@el7284where? can't find it
@@ayyjay1575i think he was not serious
Hydro not only conquered all reactions.
Bro also got TGS close-up reaction too
Despite how common it seems to show up this way in tier lists, anemo just doesn't seem worth putting above electro any more. Probably on par with pyro. It's not that the element has gotten worse, there are just so many comparable or better alternative teams that don't need it at all.
It feels great to have hydro and dendro as your 2 favorite elements ngl 😂
Crazy, I was thinking I'd love to hear your perspective on elements & elemental reactions the other day and here it is!
I've been playing a year so I haven't really built teams around all the different reactions and I don't know all the mechanics of how they work so this is amazing thanks!
Also, your voice sounds so good (clear/bright) with the new editing!
I really hope with Natlan and Sheznaya, Hoyo is going to give some much needed love to Cryo and Physical, especially considering that next year we're about to get the Cryo Archon.
I'm actually certain on pyro archon reviving melt. Our time might come way sooner then we expect!
@@ferend4038 imagine if the pyro archon is an off field Pyro dps that can also give a big ATK buff , kinda like having bennett and xiangling on a single character
@@ImagineCats9339 exactly. And without all the usual drawbacks aka circle impact, unreal XL energy needs and Pyro aura on ur char. Remove bennets healing and tie her buff to some gimmick, as we have with furina, and I can see character like that being real.
@@ferend4038 praige
@@ImagineCats9339 Need this for my Wriothesely
My only problem with melt team is that wriothesley applies cryo consistently but there arent enough pyro applications that are consistent to apply pyro other than xiangling or burnmelt teams
Here is to hoping natlan changes that
we need fire xq
I hope the pyro archon solves this
I hope they release a Bennett-Xiangling combo with very consistent pyro applications. That would also free up 1 spot on the team.
@@SomeOneUnrestricted oh i hope pyro archon is exactly this. also i want pyro dragon.
"Sucrose is a fake"
Damn... I feel Sucrose is precisely what you ask for. You just want bigger multipliers and more rewards for swirling, which is insane since it's already so broken (shield bypass much)
Sucrose C4 is kind of a proof they intended for her to be what she became. And it only took the 1.6 change to make her truly shine. Can't say as much for some units (even 5* ones).
Ngl I'm not really hoping Sucrose will be powercrept, but I hope they'll create more subdps that care about EM and actual reaction dmg for her to shine better.
An approach à la Chevreuse would be great for Superconduct. Like a def shred if you trigger the reaction like it was originally intended. But for Overload, Superconduct, Burning or Burgeon, I feel we could really have kit centered around amplifying the reactions (and I'm not only talking about dmg. Nilou makes Bloom explosions bigger, an Overload unit that pulls enemies instead of sending them away could be cool if they buff the reaction dmg on top of it)
Hope they also save Crystallize at some point, but lol.
I have been a Hydro collector since day one, just because I aesthetically love the element in this game, and man it has never felt better to be a Hydro fan. Don't even need a single word to describe its number 1 status.
yo happy 200th video on your channel, just thought someone should point it out!
I appreciate the time and effort you put into the video!
ice and physical will go to the moon with snezhnaya, thats where the elements meta will be developed like fontain was hp
Yes and my favorite character Eula will go to the moon. COPIUM
Please make a tier list of how good is a character's element application, on field and off field.
I had the exact same opinion about eletro and pyro. They are about the same power to me, and I was excited to see which one you would put higher but I like their placement.
Watching now but curious to see if you include CC/VV in the evaluation of Anemo. In theory, Anemo in a vacuum is a pretty mediocre element, basically just there to assist in AOE elemental application but grouping and VV greatly enhance the apparent value.
EDIT: So you did include them. Fair enough, it is true that mobility/movement is a core theme of every Anemo character and VV is inextricably tied to Anemo. It's just interesting to think about how Anemo is technically only good because of exterior mechanics. That could potentially inform a way to improve Geo, i.e., not by adding new reactions but by adding new mechanics and Artifacts. For example, Anemo can CC non-boss opponents so why not have Geo introduce a CC for boss opponents (e.g. a delay to extend vulnerability windows for enemies like Wenut).
I just turned AR60 and xinqgiu is still my only off field hydro support, he has carried me in so much teams it's crazy he's always there
Bro is like "do I even need to explain hydro?"
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Guessing before watching: Geo will be last place (Cryo follows closely), Hydro first place (Dendro follows closely).
14:19 My exact thoughts. I made a Kazuha burning team with nahida, kazuha, bennett, dehya. Its so fun in AoE. This team can also shred some domains like a piece of cake, like the emblem domain. Everything burns until they are no more. I would definitely recommend using sac sword on Kazuha for more on-field time.
Electro is easily second followed by Dendro and then Anemo and Pyro tied for fourth.
Electro's most significant glow up was not Dendro, but the 1.6 transformative reaction DMG scaling buff which, combined with Electro-Charge's dual aura property, made it competitive in the meta ever since (Overvape for ST, Taser for AoE). And once Dendro came along, its best reactions required Electro, and Physical is hanging on by a thread called Superconduct.
Meanwhile, Anemo is HARD carried by external factors like VV and specific abilities of a handful of its cast.
This.
I would not say second best. But definetly should be before pyro. What does pyro has except vape? Burgeon? Characters in both elements are almost equal. But Electro is much more versatile in terms of reactions.
@@zdendus1 Which element would you put in second and why?
This is so BASED, agree all the way. Love the ending! 😄
I haven't watched the video, but I'd say Hydro is #1
That's all that needs to be said. Hydro is the best Element and not explaination necessary 😂
@@amberxv4777 fr
I hope in natlan they add an off field pyro applier thats not that over used dumb chef
the ending was hilarious LMAO wasn't expecting that at all xD
Before watching the video i wrote down the list myself to check if i can estimate TGS correctly. Yep, it worked. I probably watched too many videos of him already
I feel you. There’s not much to say about Hydro right now besides the fact that it’s broken lmao
hello! you mentioned that kaeya c6 is a good off-field cryo applier - i have him and was wondering what teams become more viable as a result?
Thanks for the video! I'd have swapped dendro and electro. Apart from one specific character that enables bloom, dendro is only good when electro is present. And hydro just has a stacked roster. As just an element, I don't think it is ahead by much if any.
Yes but electro isn’t any better than dendro without dendro present 🙄
Before dendro, electro was once deemed as one of the worst element in the game, so without it electro will chill with geo. Meanwhile hydro is backbone of strong reactions. Electro charged is key for overvape and hyperbloom, you cant vape without hydro, freeze was meta and needs hydro to function, burgeon ended up burning without hydro, etc.
@@miscellaneous7777 It is as a shield breaking element, for what that's worth. Electro can break the most other types of shields out of any element.
@@yuri-lt5ct Burgeon would be better if you could maintain burning and do forward vape.
Dendro is better than electro because
First, nilou bloom
Second, better characters. Alhaitham DPS will outdamage keqing dps.
Venti doesn't really have a weight restriction for which enemies he can pull, but rather heavier enemies can fight against it somewhat. That said, you can help Venti's CC with stagger or freeze, so it's possible to build around Venti to make him more effective.
I'm glad somebody finally understands the point of Geo 🙏 like I absolutely agree the element is underwhelming but that's kinda the inherent design and theme of the element so it would make sense.
Do you have a theory crafting channel for hsr? I really need to know if its better to pull aventurine or robin since im on pity 78
I’d say geo fs needs a reaction with dendro while we all know their not the same thing geo is made to stand your ground dendro was made to spread your roots through the earth and just someone who seeks knowledge but still
I have an idea that would combine both
Thorn
How to proc it
Geo application ontop of dendro
Once activated it will summon thorns from the ground that pierce an enemy dealing damage based on defense it will keep the enemy in place for 1 sec and it has 100% uptime(doesn’t work on bosses) the purpose of this build is too one give dendro and reaction with geo
And 2 make geo dps like navia and itto have more team variatys and with how easy itto gets defense it’ll boost has damage by a lot more
Though idk you tell me if it’s a good idea
It's crazy HSR sponsored you, when you calculate beta stuff. :D But I am all for it, you're the best italian :3
After Arleccino, I didn’t expect the Ja-Ming jumpscare 😭
Chevreuse /does/ buff the overload damage (kinda) since she reduces pyro resistance, and overload is considered pyro
I always thought a physical carry that was pyro would be cool. Could just make them splitscale on pyro/physical and benefit from swirls. Double dip into pyro res shred also gives phys res shred.
I think Pyro would be a top 2-3 element if we got more pyro supports and sub dps characters since pyro already has a ton of potential with enabling melt and triggering vape along with having #1 priority in swirl and having a unit like Bennett
The only 5 star pyro that isn’t specifically a carry is Dehya and she has a billion flaws
Hopefully for Natlan they can finally release support and sub dps focused pyros in order to bump the element back up
You know an element is broken when one the best damage dealers for another element, is a hydro unit.
This is a idea I got about how Varka kit could look and it could also serve as a buff to Physical. Because what I think Physical needs is first and foremost a powerful physical buffer. But I didn't stop there and also tried to make Varka some sort of burst dps + buffer...because Physicals needs way more than just a basic buffer.
So I gonna copy and paste it here:
Varka having close relationship with Rosaria, Razor and Mika makes me think he is gonna be the character that will buff Physical.
My idea would be Varka been a physical buffer, sub dps and main dps...kinda like a combination of Raiden and Shenhe, but physical.
To be more in detail I see some potencial with Varka if he is focus around some stack buffs(Gonna call the Elemental Skill one, Rally). Well the Rally stacks work like Shenhe E buff(But Physical), were everyone gets it and they get spend each time a character attacks with physical damage. Also his E should make a ice wolf head that attack in union with physical attacks. Dealing small amounts of cryo damage and been the main source of the Rally stacks. In the sense that when Varka activates his E, he will give a set amount of Rally stacks to every teammate and when his allies and himself attack they get spend.(Pretty much what I said of Shenhe and Raiden E getting combine).
Also, everytime someone and himself spend Rally stacks, he gains another type of stack that gets spend with his burst(Gonna call it Lead by Actions and it makes his burst stronger). His burst should be similar to Raiden burst were he does echanced attacks(Or just a huge single hit like Xinyan), Anyway the burst mostly deal physical damage with a side of cryo...Once he spend a certain amount of Lead by Actions, he will also give another damage buff to his teammates.(Gonna call that buff from the burst, High Morale). Well, High Morale could simply be a huge atk increase like Bennett for the entire team for like 20 seconds.
As for his passives, well one could be a teamwide physical damage buff if you have a Electro and Cryo teammate...maybe like a 20% physical buff at all time or when you do Superconduct(Kinda like a resonance buff Physical is lacking). The other passive could be the one that gives the Lead by Actions stacks, by saying everytime a Rally stack gets spend Varka gets Lead by Action for his burst.
If he works like that, you can make powerful comps like this:
Eula/Xinyan, Varka, Mika and Electro Sub dps(I feel they also need to make a good electro/physical sub dps)
Razor, Varka, Mika and Rosaria(You cannot tell me this is not the perfect Varka comp)
Freminet, Varka, Xingqiu + Electro sub dps
So yeah, I wish Varka works that way. It would make him a sub dps, buffer and burst dps at the same time. Adding that it makes sense, because in lore he is a powerhouse that is also good at rallying his troopes.
Lastly the constellations should exist to turn him into a main dps.
100% agree with this list
Thats some good mic quality right there huh
hydro is so god, has most top tier reaction: electrocharged for aoe, vape, frozen, bloom (+ hyperbloom or burgeon), but only that, is so good in non reaction teams like monogeo, monoanemo, physical, BUt NO ONLY THAT , it works great in "soup" team with "pyro + electro" or "dendro + cryo + electro". is so good that even the worst hydro have a place ( minus traveler) candance barbara kokomi mona ayato childe etc, everyone can be used.
Is Cyno not another electro quicken carry?
quickbloom carry
The problem with changing and element is that you'd potentially have to rebalance every character using that element. Only one that seems relatively safe is just damage buffing.
I always wished electrocute would stagger the same way it's able to stagger the character. That might be a little broken, but people said Freeze was broken also...
11:38
New Burning artifact set coming: case in point lol
the problem with geo is that it's an element that centers on being neutral in a game that focuses on non-neutral reactions. it needs more and more geo units to support other geo units to continue to be viable, which is not ideal. it was reworked once but even if it got reworked again i think it would quickly stagnate once more unless new mechanics are built in to make playing it more interesting in different teams and scenarios
the problem with cryo is that it's old and hasn't been significantly touched on for years. blizzard strayer is still the most significant cryo set and its primarily focused on a reaction that only works half the time in the abyss. the characters (ie layla, charlotte) are also significantly geared towards freeze, and the most recent cryo dps, wriothesley, set himself apart by having burnmelt as one of his actual best teams for reasons. i think it just needs a new artifact set to bump up its other mechanics like melt or the slowing effect, not just freeze
the problem with pyro isnt that its old or hasnt been significantly touched on, but because for whatever reason the devs refuse to add any actually interesting pyro characters. theres like 5 different on field dpses in that element and all their best teams are vape or mono pyro. chevreuse was the most interesting character they recently added in that roster and they have yet to do anything with the concept of boosting overload or other lesser used pyro reactions. is it because of xiangling? its xiangling isnt it? its such a running joke that xiangling will never be dethroned even the devs are getting in on it. please just make another pyro sub-dps that has decent pyro application. they dont even have to have as much damage as xiangling. nobody will have as much damage as xiangling. please--
Physical damage support set would help
I fully agree with this list except for pyro i believe its below electro as of now cuz its mainly being carried by bennet and prob also xianylin
there isn't a single electro character better than Tao, Lyney and potentially Arle.
And that's counting Hyperbloom for Kuki-Cyno, Aggravate for Yae-Keqing-Fischl, Hypercarry Raiden.
Like the way you also talk about physical in this. Other people always leave it out as it doesnt really is an actual element or vision type. But it still is a way to deal damage.
i was expecting u to mention blizzard slayer set
Do you have a hsr channel?
What's sad to me is that petra just needs to be changed to proc whenever the holder causes a crystallize reaction like how VV works and it instantly becomes a great and flexible support set. Also we need a geo Kazuha.
They really need to adjust that set. Like I know they dont adjust characters at all but if they just "fixed" Archaic Petra Geo as an element would be so much better than it is now. Characters like Albedo would actually have decent supportive capabilities + damage
Even something as simple as allowing other characters to pick up the shard would help so much, having to extend your field time to pick up the shard SPECIFICALLY on the Geo unit is... Not that great
How can you literally be sponsored by HSR, that’s wild! GZ!!
Honestly I feel like anything above Electro in this tierlist don't need any buff as an element. May be one or 2 strong char should be enough. For cryo I think freez need some type of buff like freez status should be on bosses even if they don't get CCed. As per physical nd Geo they actually need something. Also for me dendero and hydro are equal but hydro has more broken chars.
Please make Tier list for Teams against solo and mobs.
Neuvillette
@@DefinitelyNotAFerret that for sure.. but want to see the rank of the others lol
geo crystallize just needs to do something...
they tried out like 20 different things but made none happen.
petra- work on any character who picks it up and add 35% geo dmg to them too.
bollide - triple the bonus if geo unit shielded
most of the feedback i gave to them for crystallize they just used the dendro crystallize for baizhu and im not even joking :|
Literally hydro. All good reactions, best mono team (even geo being designed as mono element team is second best), premium characters and weirdly most of them are 5*, probably because they are main cash source.
That's a very sensible list. Personally I would have put anemo below electro/pyro. Anemo is hard carried by vv, and that artifact set is getting less dominant. It's useless for geo/anemo carry teams, aside from aggravate most dendro teams don't need it, other characters like chevreuse is taking up that role in its place, and a bunch of popular teams don't have much use of it.. eg rational, hutao + zl comps, navia teams, etc.
how about new enemies with very low physical resistance, wouldnt it help to promote it?
How’s electro so low when the best dendro reactions need it..
Electrocharge has always been the best way to double swirl. Chev saved overload and SC is mandatory for physical dps
I mean it’s only 1 away from dendro. And you just said yourself that electrocharged swirl is the way to go. A reaction carried by Anemo which is just 1 above it
@@mugenhikage It's not carried by Anemo, it's carried by Electro-Charged's dual aura property, which Pyro can also take advantage of to create Overvape and Dendro can use to create more Dendro Cores than otherwise when you Dendro app is insufficient.
Doesn't Burning act similarly to Quicken in Burgeon teams? As in it increases your Hydro DMG instead.
lol. no
״The latest addition to the Physical disaster class” 😂😢😭
"Hydro"
Enough said.
so clorinde is electro charged focused. will require something like all teammates are hydro or electro to activate buffs? Or maybe the little cute thing called sige somthing
Considering she will be a 5 star unit, I don’t think she will have any team restrictions.
@@SomeOneUnrestricted Nilou is a 5 star too
For the current abyss specifically anemo is better than dendro but overall it's vice-versa
12:00 We need a 5* EM ascension electro characters frfr
there was once a time when everyone argued between hydro or anemo as being the best elements in the game. post-dendro though i think if you still argue anemo is better than hydro youve lost your marbles
like as a whole both elements are great but with dendro making seed-focused reactions a thing and Neuvillette & Furina being Neuvillette & Furina its just really hard to deny that the top meta teams rn are just very thirsty for that sweet sweet bath water
B4 fountaine I would say dendro was 1st but rn with all the hydro units its clear hydro is #1
Even before fontaine, hydro's the best, no debate, not even close
Before watching the video:
Hydro, Dendro, Electro, Pyro, Cryo, Geo, Anemo
Anemo last? What?
It's basically Geo (Xiao/Wanderer mono anemo teams vs Navia/Itto) but also works as support element for other elements
*Geo will always be at the bottom. ALWAYS. It’s objectively the worst element in the game.*
Physical is _kinda_ an element but not really. Physical is a type of damage. The other is Elemental damage.
I think easy way of making burning reaction OK is one of this:
1- idea make each tic deal fire dmg in small AOE without element aplication. That way there will be small niche where burning reaction is always good (big group of enemies in close proximity).
2- idea make DoT dmg scaling over time. That way sustaining "burning" reaction will be rewarding.
3- idea make DoT dmg stronger, but dmg scaling is quickly degrading over time. That way making burning reaction to enable "melt" or "vaporize" will be less punishing (most of the DoT dmg will be dealt withing first 2 sec, so we wont miss much if asidently add to much cryo or hydro)
TGS, nooo!
Dendro and electro should be tied, wherever you place them. They're both pretty bad without the other.
Looking at them without the other, its standard bloom, burgeon, and burning versus EC, overload and superconduct. In fact, I'd probably take the latter if i had to choose, in a post-chevreuse world.
Dendro and electro owe each other lunch money
Even with that argument Burgeon alone already keeps Dendro above Electro 🤡
@@kondoriano4813 No shot. Overvape, taser, and chevreuse overload destroy the clunky mess that is burgeon.
Plus, electro always has the secret weapon of superconduct if they ever release good physical characters.
@SnipeOSRS "Overvape" is not a reaction.
Taser is a broke man's Hyperbloom.
Chevrouse doesn't even buff the reaction, she just uses it as a trigger for her resistance shreds.
"If they ever release good physical characters" AHAHAHAHA, oh wait you serious let me laugh harder AHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂🤡
"Clunky mess that is Burgeon?" What kind of crack are you on? It's literally Hyperbloom but AoE and there's plenty of great teams too.
@@kondoriano4813hyperbloom is for broke people tho it’s very low effort
@@kondoriano4813 overvape very much is a reaction. It abuses the electro charged aura alongside pyro to trigger vaporize and overload at the same time.
Taser being worse hyperbloom doesn't matter because hyperbloom doesn't happen without electro either.
Explain why nobody plays burgeon if it's just "hyperbloom with aoe". Theoretically it's just a straight upgrade right?
Electro swirl also exists by the way.
My only nitpick is that Physical isnt really an element because it doesnt react and almost everyone other than catalyst deals Physical dmg on normal atks by default.
Part 2 when?
We all knew it was gonna be Hydro
What I don't get is why Anemo is so high. All you do is swirl, the rest of the stuff provided is only off of sets or character skills (res reduction, grouping etc), so you're basically judging the characters of that element, not the element itself.
For example, if there was a character who would reduce 100% of enemies attack, resistance and defense if superconduct occurs, people would say "wow superconduct is finally great"- no, it isn't, only the character is.
I really hope Cryo gets some love in the next regions , it feels underwhelming rn ,I wish they rework the Cryo resonance to a more universal one , and I wish that they add better Cryo off field dps/supports who can compete with Hydro characters we have now .. as for Geo , it's getting carried by Zhongli and Navia , but I hope we get more good Geo characters in the future
11:40 ok ok ok tgs hold up. Electro charged bad?
Electro charged teams have been good from the very beginning and continue to be so especially in aoe
But if you're playing neuvillette in aoe for example, might aswell bring fischl and use kazuha to electro charge
Same with furina yae teams or honestly any combination of electro and hydro with anemo in aoe
Electro charged is still pretty good partially because of the units associated with it but it's still very prominent on abyss and I don't think they are going to need to buff it like overloaded any time soon
Aside from Hyperbloom teams, I wouldn't say it's "very prominent" at all. There's no real reason to use a team where the main source of damage is EC. EC is good because it enables stuff like Overvape and Hyperbloom. Neuvillette using Fischl is firstly not really advisable at C0 since you'll be better off using Zhongli or any other defensive utility, and while it is competitive in damage it's a bit disingenuous to say it's because of EC.
EC is absolutely amazing at what it does best which is enabling other reactions, but alone it doesn't really do anything.. which a Nilou-like unit could fix. Which was their point, I think.
@@osmano8498 a chevrouse like unit was hinted at. Now, aside from the fact that the anemo unit is the heart of the team. An electro charged support like chevrouse would break the game cuz when did you ever see pyro electro units paired together and compare it to electro charged
I also disagree on the neuvillette point. It really is not that hard to play C0 neuvillette without defensive utility. Also, in aoe. Kazuha's electro charged damage is nothing to scoff at
Third, while the electro and hydro units are made for damage. The anemo unit is absolutely enabling electro charged damage. Case and point, sucrose driver in taser
As someone who's seen alot of recent speedrun tournaments. Electro charged is still used commonly which is something unheard of for overloaded and normal bloom without the dedicated characters
Furthermore. Sucrose, xingqiu, beidou, fischl has been one of the best four star teams
And characters like kokomi, furina, fischl, kazuha are all strong characters that do enough individual damage aswell as synergise well enough to make a cohesive team
@@MuhaamadAreeb You just said it yourself; the anemo unit is the "heart of the team". But a Nilou-like unit would prevent the anemo unit from being used. Why would it "break the game" then ? Balancing is a thing.
I never said it was hard to play Neuvillette without defensive utility (I did it); it's just worse, although it's obviously content-dependent. The time you're spending making yourself off-range of the enemies or immune isn't worth the theoretical higher damage you'd get from Fischl and EC. Take current 12-1-1 as an example where the dendro balls will just kill you if you aren't killing them before, or the second wave where the enemies gain random IR and dashes at you in a non-consistent way.
The anemo unit does indeed do damage through EC, but it's far worse in ST (which, reminder, there's not always sides tailored for a specific scenario; take the current first half where there's 2 AoE chambers BUT 1 ST chamber where the taser team will fall off) and Sucrose Taser is mid anyways. There's never a reason to use it provided you have a decent account.
But these teams mainly works because the characters themselves are good. It's not because of the reaction, which is the point. The reaction damage-wise isn't very good (it is okay in AoE, sure), but the characters are very good. Extreme example : you keep saying Neuvillette EC is that good. Is Bloom (normal bloom) good because Baizhu generates some blooms in Neuv/Furina/Baizhu/Kazuha ? No, he's good because he synergizes well with Furina and generates one stack for Neuvillette. Obviously it's an extreme example, I'm aware EC does more than Bloom in the team, but you get the point; the reaction isn't doing anything crazy in the team.
"has been", precisely.
Same point for Neuvillette and Kokomi.
i loved the explanation for hydro (no need for it, hydro is broken)
Before yelan came out, I was actually thinking anemo and hydro were on a similar level
Fast forward all the way to fontaine and anemo is still really good... but hydro is just on another level to the point where I'm pretty sure that they only made hydro traveler as bad as they are to see if they could make the worst character in the game have the best element
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crazy how Hoyo sponsored a leak theorycrafter lmaoooo
Dendro indded has its own meta and it means it cannot be powercrept.
i believe Dendro is best alement in offensivity and reaction DMG while hydro is best for versatality.
Love how he calls him "jia ming" instead of "gah ming". Whether it's intentional or not
Anyway I have some ideas how they can improve the elements that are underperforming rn. Been thinking quite a lot about that lately (because of how dry the game is), so yeah it'll be a long ass yapping session
*Physical*
For physical specifically, the solution is easier than everyone thought actually. It's not simply releasing a better eula, but rather release characters that can deal physical dmg from off field. Why? Because if we pay attention to the physical team, we'd realize that the "physical team" is mostly just a hypercarry team. While hypercarry comp isn't necessarily a bad idea, but it certainly is a primitive one. The reason why physical team can't compete with other elemental teams (other than not having actually good characters that uses it) is exactly that. Because 1 dps < 3 dps, simple math
As to how they can do it, it's just as I mentioned above. There are 2 ways they can approach this: One is making superconduct's damage physical instead of cryo (I can never figure out why it deals cryo dmg)while maintaining the effect of reducing physical resistance, or just directly make them deal physical dmg instead of elemental dmg. Like a physical yelan, physical fischl, physical albedo etc. The latter is a no brainer so no need to explain that. For the prior, making that change will essentially make any cryo and electro dps gain the option to become a physical dps, which is good for both of them
*Geo*
This one is a tough one tbh. Because unlike physical which technically doesn't even have a reaction, it has. But the thing is the only reaction it has sucks. So unless they change the reaction completely (which they didn't do despite having 3 years of chances), or give them very cracked characters that only works with geo (like a geo furina for example). Releasing better artifact sets that that can better utilize the reaction isn't even a good idea because not only the reaction itself has terrible effect, it's also very clunky to play around with (which they also kept the same for 3 years)
So yeah, it's really tough. Because for physical specifically they don't really care about what element they are as long as their kit are mainly physical dmg (yes I know cryo improves it, but they really don't have to be cryo in order to be good), but for geo as long as they are geo and made to deal geo dmg, they'll always struggle because having reaction that is bad is simply worse than not having reaction at all
*Cryo*
While cryo is a great element to begin with, but it's performance has undeniably went downward as time progress. Without a doubt it need some improvement, but the thing is if you give too much it'll become too good. So for me personally I would just not touch the element itself at all. I'd rather just release stronger characters that utilize it's reaction better
As for the middle tiered one like electro and pyro I'd say they are perfectly fine as it is so no need to touch it for now. And that's all for the yapping, thank you for reading
i am so happy to see someone that actually sees what the real problem with physical is. it is so refreshing thank you.
I'm going to be that guy. For me Electro>Pyro.
But thats just me.
My thought with Aggravate and also given the way Mihoyo likes buffing things is it would be hilarious if they made a Dendro Nilou sorta character, Make 2 Dendro 2 Electro with focus on electro side of it some sort of insane thing. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like the more Genshin thing to do, rather then just powercreep the hell out of Yae, Keqing etc. But like you said its not in a bad place.
You know why geo is the best element.
They have higher raw damage than most other charecters as they don’t have a whole lot of ways to buff them.
And,I love that for the overworld,just using gorou’s skill takes my itto NEAR to his full potential.
that is why some of my most favourite charecters are geo like itto and chiori.
It's the opposite. They have high raw damage because they have no way to buff itself through reactions
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@@HahaHaha-jx4le yea,that is what I said.
I think I did some grammatical error there.lemme change it.
@@cubation9254 still, it's not the best element. It's as bad as physical, it's just that they have better characters.
It's technically Anemo without support capabilities lol
@@HahaHaha-jx4leofc,it isn’t the best element for everyone.
But,based on what I like,it is the best for me.
the game was rigged against physical from the start, needing a reaction which deals no damage to buff only it means the party is only amplifying physical so elemental damage of other members is wasted. basically geo but worse because geo is flexible, its resonance only needs two geos and buffs both. what physical needs is off field physical electro/cryo supports
The only reason this video exists is for him to make a no comment joke on hydro