Doctors... I was wrong
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2021
- Dictators. Autocrats. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. And now Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine.
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The person who threatened to release his medical records objectively shouldn’t be allowed to practice medicine.
prob wasn't a real doc, just a troll (hopefully!!)
😂
I hope so!
The person who did was probably a DO so technically they don't practice real medicine.
🤣
The person threatening to leak his medical records needs to be spoken to immediately. That's definitely not an okay reaction for a medical "professional" to have over a comedian riffing on a late night show.
Yeah but that's the difference between a DO and and MD
Can they not claim, "now who can't take a joke".
@@AA-xb2zm I think there's a difference between a joke and an actionable threat of violation of HIPAA. If people can claim a threat as a joke then you would never get a mob conviction. Basically, no, for something like a doctor threatening to release medical info, that cannot be a joke.
Wtf is a DO seriously im so confused
@@ye23. A DO is a medical doctor in all manners of the term. Only difference really is that DO's try to take more of a holistic approach to medicine compared to the classical allopathic MD (trying to suggest more natural lifestyle changes to tackle various issues rather than just throwing drugs at it), though that's something that MDs are adopting more and more now too, and the primary difference is that DO's learn an extra bit of techniques known as Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy, which in the simplest of terms is essentially a hybrid of Physical Therapy and Chiropractic procedures (this oversimplification doesn't do it justice, but it's the best that I can explain it without launching into a multi-volume rant).
But yeah, being in a DO school myself, we still get taught all manner of physiology, anatomy, pathology, and pharmacology by DOs, MDs, and practicing clinicians, and we take essentially identical board exams. MDs have to take steps 1-3 of USMLE, and DOs have COMLEX Levels 1 and 2. However, DOs are also allowed to take USMLE with the MDs, and in doing so, can be eligible for the same MD Residency matches. But downside is that if there is any bit of a "boys club" mentality in various residencies and specialties, then DOs are at a severe disadvantage just due to human bias.
The moral of the story: DO's can't take a joke. So when you become a DO you must have your sense of humor surgically removed...by an MD of course.
lol
Lmao
OMFG
That's a deep cut.
Lol
So, I’m a DO medicine physician. The reality is that about 95% in my class tried for a MD school and we never got in (including me). The majority of us will never admit it, but it’s true. I find his jokes hilarious because there is truth to what he says, and we just have to have a sense of humour to take it!
Thank you for admitting the obvious. I think some of the criteria medical schools use for admitting people is rather self-defeating. There are those who are book smart and have all the highest scores, but they have zero common sense or they have the wrong personality traits that a good physician needs. Some of the people most suited to be doctors aren't accepted for one reason or another and instead go to DO schools and become excellent physicians. I went to one of the top MD schools, and I had classmates whom I would keep anyone I cared for away from. They were absolutely brilliant, but they didn't have the magic ingredient that makes for a good doctor. One of the most brilliant people in my class was smart to the point of being stupid. And in my residency, one of the very best classmates was a DO.
@@Shahrdad went to one of the “top” medical schools. Sure you did. You sound like someone who went to the Caribbean and bought your degree. And let’s be honest, nobody “chooses” to go to a DO school, you are forced to go there are forced because mainstream MD schools wouldn’t accept them.
@@jpichet6999 you sound bitter.
@@Shahrdad and you sound like you didn’t go to Med school at all lol.
@@jpichet6999 You keep on thinking that. My point is that many of those who end up having to go to DO schools should have gotten into MD schools, and some of those who did get into MD schools have no business being doctors. The entrance requirements nowadays are so screwed up, and most of them have zero to do with whether someone has the right talents an personality to be a doctor. Grades and scores aren't everything.
Oath: Do No Harm
DOs: Except for Hasan!
There's always a exception to the rule¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The legend
ohey its chocolate rain
Ahh, I don't want to laugh but it was funny!
Chocolate pain :(
🤣
when the world needed him most, he returned
Even though his comedy skills are great, he had a lot to learn before he was ready to save anyone. But I believe... Hasan can save the world 🌎
*cue Avatar's epic bgm*
The second coming of Hasan 🙌
Nice one😂
One of the greatest comebacks in UA-cam history.
Gotta pay for that second kid.
I love how all the DOs that ridiculed him for this have all laughed at a joke about some other profession at some point in time but THIS was too far for them.
There's a pretty intense and aggressive inferiority complex. I had a former friend who ended up attending a DO school, and I was proud of her. We'd been friends for years, but once I got into an MD school a couple years later, she started making increasingly bitter and passive aggressive comments about me until I just stopped talking to her.
@@Pope_of_the_Church_of_Tea that's messed up and really sad
A lot are bitter about it. A lot of nurses are too. They think why did I go be a nurse I could have been a doctor- my twin sister is a case in point . She went to nursing school I went to medical school after some false starts and burning a few years here and there. She’s the head CRNA and has been making money for years I’m still in school and haven’t finished off paying off my loans -- but that chip on her shoulder is a freaking boulder
@@altimmons Probably because a lot of MD's disrespect APP's on regular basis, even though we are literally on the same team trying to provide good patient care. Also mad respect to your sister, CRNA school is no joke. Good luck finishing up med school/residency.
how do you know all of them
While I'm not a DO and I respect their entitlement to their own feelings, I can't help but feel like it's ridiculous to think a comedian's jokes invalidates your job when that job makes you money than most people in the world will see in their lifetime
You're not wrong, though from what I heard from my peers who were offended, it's more that it exacerbated the bias that many others actually have in mind, or, just like Hasan said, the problem isn't him making the joke, but that their mom or aunty actually believes it.
Maybe the only reason that the joke hit a sore spot is because of the century-long history that DO's have had fighting tooth and nail for every inch of equality they have with MDs now (there's still a lot to go), but honestly, Hasan is right. This really should have just been a joke to laugh at.
@@reetombera9288 Agreed. Especially after a fiasco like Figs and their scrubs ad. They showed a how to be a doctor for dummies book been held by someone with a D.O. badge. Super offensive and while Hasan had no idea that happened, it really frustrated a lot of people. Huge invalidation
Exactly, if they dont like it then they can buy out all the tickets to his comedy show so that nobody shows up.
the idea that all docs are so highly paid is BS. Licensed electricians, plumbers and lawyers make a lot more than most docs per hour . I like in NYC: stock brokers, hedge fund brats....many docs with with 200k in loans to pay back after 4 yrs college, 4 yrs med school, 3-7 yrs low paid additional years for training.. ... OK hate on docs being well paid-until the day you or your loved one needs a neurosurgeon...
@@laurenhawes7201 reallynv Vreeland is.
This is the closest thing to patriot act , and it's great!!!
Facts.
I miss Patriot Act SOOO MUCH 😭
lmao we are so desperate that we will just accept anything at this point
See, if Patriot Act is Coca-Cola
This is RC-Cola
And RC-Cola slaps
It's better.
Gotta respect that Hasan doubled down. Can’t help but laugh at doctors having a sense of humour failure. Isn’t there some saying about laughter and medicine…?
Someone need to stand up to those chiropractors
I should have expected your comment here Dr. Francis.
Looks like they lack the humoral response eh?
just NO, I don't..and because, as an RN I say, *no one* has to "respect" his ignorance re: osteopaths..or your ignorance either, for that matter..also, you offer a total *false equivalency* re: laughter being the best medicine.🙄
and had Hasan studied up on how DO's have the same rights as MD's *plus* ADDITIONAL education over what MD's learn, he would have known his failure...at making his 'joke,' which then, LITERALLY, made NO sense whatsoever.
and as a I mentioned in another comment, it was a DO who was in charge of the ER in a city I lived and worked in. so, a doctor who would have been responsible for saving YOUR disrespectful self re: his team, had you ever been brought in to where WE we worked because you needed YOUR life saved..but that would have been no big deal to you or anyone who might care about whether you lived or died, right? in fact, after being cared for & treated, you would have been happy to send any DO who had helped you a link to Hasan's horrible attempt at his 'joking' around about DO's...right?
also, Hasan's doctor WIFE should have warned him..but seems he didn't even bother to consult her. or maybe he did but she just decided to let him look ridiculous??..but had he done so, if she had any sense, anyway, she would have reminded him about who she has to either work with and/or deal with professionally.
re: your absurd comment:
"Gotta respect that Hasan doubled down. Can’t help but laugh at doctors having a sense of humour failure. Isn’t there some saying about laughter and medicine…?"
@@DiandraStarShine lol, take it easy.
You won't convince people by being a grouch.
Non of it would have happened if the DO would just carry on.
You are the fuel that keeps the fire of DO jokes lit. Don't like it, grow a thicker skin, but fair enough you don't have to listen.
Engaging just makes it worse.
Have a great day buddy.
Signing off a Ginger (I'm being made fun of a lot. A lot)
I'm a DO. It is true that MOST DO students were in a lower scoring percentile on their MCAT when applying for medical school. Dumb? No. Lower score? Yes. It's a crude weed-out system that is not great, but with the number of applicants each year for medical school, it's the best we have. It is not a test to determine how good a doctor you will be but how well you learn for the purposes of test taking. Fair enough. Med schools want the students with the highest possibility of graduating or else they lose money when you drop out. I don't blame them. I think everybody knows that good test takers don't automatically become good doctors. I'm 55 years old and a surgeon. I've seen good DO's and bad DO's. I've seen good MD's and bad MD's. MD and DO med school teaching/testing is the same. There are even classes that we take together at the same time with the same tests and so on. I had clinical rotations with MD's and MD's did rotations with me. I think the biggest difference is that our learning styles are different, which may bleed into our medical practice style. Possibly, the DO learning style is a bit less didactic and a bit more interactive - as is real life. Now that's a real stretch but there is a difference between the two groups. Both have the ability to make GREAT doctors and both have the ability to have mediocre doctors with the same degree. The MCAT joke was probably more true than not true and it appears to have struck a nerve with some of my colleagues but hey - focus on treating people, that's where the true judgment lies. Cheers!
DOs believe in chiropractic, lol.
@@neila6340 It's actually not chiropractic although it is similar in the fact that PART of what is taught involves physical manipulation - but that is only a small part of what we utilize in school, and ONLY when it makes sense. We also do heart surgery, brain surgery and ALL the other surgeries known to man. The MD's are also taught manipulative medicine to an extent, but it is called something like physical mechanics or structural kinetics etc. Like I said in the above post, it is really about the difference in learning styles and how we use that knowledge in our practice.
In my DO graduating class, we had multiple students get into competitive MD residencies -Including Harvard Anesthesia, Orthopedics, John Hopkins ER, UC San Diego, etc. The MCAT admissions criteria may be true by few percentile points, but not enough to actually make a real world difference in outcomes, certainly doesn't determine the quality of the doctor. Sometimes the problem is just "Learning how to learn", i.e. take tests, which I believe can be taught. Also, there's quite a bit of nepotism in professional schools and I know two mediocre students who got into prestigous MD programs due to family connections.
agreed, well said well put.
Look... mostly I agree with you, but the trouble with a modern DO is the history of DOs. Their existence is rooted in the unwillingness of a certain part of the medical community to practice based on evidence and to maintain some quack practices. These are no longer a major part of a modern good (and I include this qualifier very intentionally) DO program. The current problem with an excellent modern DO is that their very existence acts as apologetics for practitioners that are... shall we say, less grounded in evidence. Good DO programs would probably be doing the world a favor if they kept teaching as they are but converted to MD programs to cleanly sever themselves from some of the historical DO nonsense. But then again, it's not like the history of MD programs is squeaky clean either, but their more egregious teachings are a bit further in the past.
He is clearly correct about, the DOs being second tier doctors, because they obviously can't find their funny bone
Hahahah
It's one of the questions they got wrong on the MCAT
Ohhhh 😂
@@laurenhawes7201 I’m dead LOL
As DO student I find it hilarious 😂
I’m an osteopathic medical student who went to UC Santa Cruz. Hasan is my villain origin story.
" I will release ALL the records! Mwa-ha-ha!"
I prefer DOs thank God some people wanna go to school for that bc I don't think I have the strength.
So you're a beach osteopath?
this is your joker moment
MCAT is your vilain origine story!
🎤 drop!!!!
I can't believe someone threatened to leak his medical records. I work for a health care organization, and they tell us that leaking medical records is a great way to lose your job. Any actual doctor would know that.
Forget the job, that's a Federal offense.
There should be a follow-up video of an oversight of their industry, into their accidentally-on-purpose threats and confessions
The stat and extracurricular requirements are going up rapidly for both MD and DO. I’ve had many middle aged doctors today tell me they likely wouldn’t be able to become a doctor today with all the requirements needed and hoops you have to jump through.
There’s also a huge chunk of luck involved in applications to med schools and it’s definitely not worth waiting another year applying when you have an acceptance to a DO school that will teach you everything you need to know to fulfill your dreams and help people.
That's the problem when you make a joke and it hits someone's deepest insecurity, suddenly they will say you have gone too far. There was absolutely no insult to DO's medical qualification, only to their test score.
These DOs need to look into themselves and ask why they're so furiously dying on this hill if they truly believe that their stupid test score does not define them as doctors.
"We do not appreciate your DO jokes...can we get a selfie", that pretty much sums it all up.
Because people can't disagree with someone or consider them ill-informed on one issue, but still respect the person overall?
@@FS-td3og no because it’s a joke and some people are to full of themselves like you for instance
@@FS-td3og I don't think you get what he is trying to say......but OK.
This seems to happen to him a lot. The man are a trump rally yelling at him then asking for a selfie haha
Badly miss patriot act. But this is a nice consolation.
This is gold! As someone who went to medical school this is hilarious, he handled the pushback well.
maybe that is because you are not a DO.... do the same amount of schooling as an MD, and often take DO board exams AND USMLEs, place in residencies alongside MDs, be capable of providing the same medical services as MDs and OMM if applicable, earn the same income as MDs, only to be mocked by Hasan Minhaj, who did not earn an MD or DO degree and is basically a part of the Indian aunty gossip community. Nice job not standing up for your fellow medical graduates, Dr. Moni :)
@@kiranrao4972lol you are literally indian.Who is getting offended.
Hasan Minhaj is a true comedy genius. The joke on Fallon was hilarious, his response on stage even more so and this beautiful conclusion to the DO trilogy has me cackling!
Also idk who your editor(s) are but they're hilarious too!
"Apparently I struck a nerve with the type A, high achieving, Kumon kids we all went to high school with"
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, HASAN, THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD
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At 08:50 someone in audience BOOOed at Hasan. His response was genius and it brings up a good point. We DO have a cast system in the US. ALL JOBS ARE EQUALLY VALUABLE. A doctor saving lives is just as equal as the trash man who picks up our trash on Wednesdays which prevents diseases from killing us all. Sure, a doctor requires advanced education, where as a sanitation worker doesn't, but in society they are BOTH CRUCIAL for a well functioning society. #respectalljobs #yourjobnotbetter
I mean... Probably Part of the act. But I still respect it.
Maybe it's not though.
So first of all, I agree every job brings inherent value to society. To Hasan's comments about NPs and such, there is a difference between skill level of MDs and NPs that make the value they bring to the medical field inherently different. It seems like he knows some MDs don't like NPs because NPs claim to provide the same level of care. But in the set he's equating the two like there is no question about it, when it is absolutely uncertain about whether or not they can practice safely as an independent medical professional.
I agree that we need to recognize that everyone is critical to making our society function well, and not hierarchize classes of people based on their jobs or income, but I'm unable to see how you got to that thought from the person booing.
How one practices medicine comes down to personal level of character. My DO OBGYN, she saved lives while her colleague MDs, just in from the golf course, were floored and floundering. I always look for a DO, even in male doctors when, by network restrictions, I am forced to use them.
@@Dx-Dm Hasan called it out exactly right after the guy Boo'ed, specifically that they treat each other like a caste system. So, Ken being a critical thinker, extrapolated on that to include all of society instead of just the medical professions. Since, it's true. Remember, fast food workers don't need a living wage cause their jobs are transitory until something better comes along, which is BS, since something better usually requires money to be educated on.
You had me at
"Your Sense of Humour Stops at your MCAT Score"
After this everything was Bonus
Yooo more videos like this plz. Tyler's editing and Hasan's personality made this a very entertaining video.
As a DO married to another DO who has always loved & respected your work, I appreciate the over-arching message of your appearance on Jimmy Fallon. Your life was altered in the best way possible by a DO’s work!! Also, how you worked it out it in San Fran was dope as hell. Thank you for bringing this issue to light, especially when medical practitioners are in such short supply.
Other than MCAT score (ha,ha) the major difference in our education is that in addition to the standard medical education of biochem, human anatomy, pathology, different procedures & specialties, etc., we spend several hours in lecture and upwards of 5 hours each week in lab learning much more in-depth about the musculoskeletal system, how it relates to our nervous system, immune system, digestion, cardiovascular & other bodily systems. Then we learn how to diagnose & correct any dysfunction using manual medicine - using our hands to manipulate & correct dysfunction , reducing pain & returning the patient to a healthier state of well-being.
Just thought you & your audience might like to know why DO’s are so distinctive & fantastic at health maintenance.
Peace to your and your lovely family.
(as non-American) I still understand what is the difference. From your post I see the education you receive differs a bit.
But you can all work in the same fields of medicine in the end or not?
Appreciate your further explanation ☺️
Either way, I think I don't like this joke, or his (lame) attempt to make it ok. But I'm certainly not going to be offended on behalf of others :)
I think one of the problems is that a DO is not the same thing in other places. DOs in Canada are glorified chiropractors with no proper medical training.
@@pjasna DO’s can and do work in all the same fields as MD’s, because DO schools provide the same medical education that MD schools have, with the addition of the osteopathic/in depth musculoskeletal elements. DO’s can take both the DO boards (COMLEX) and the MD boards (USMLE) because of this, whereas MD’s can only take USMLE. Additionally, the residency match system is now combined for MD’s and DO’s so that further validates the equivalency of basic medical education between the two!
@@chemistrycatlex don't forget that the AMA recognizes them as equivalent degrees.
@@pjasna DO is all MD education + 200-400 hours of OMT training. Is that different? A bit. Is that less? No. Are they receiving same knowledge? 100% yes.
This was honestly super refreshing to see a comedian embrace the “hate” and not pander because a group (of well educated people) got mad. I love that and we should all be able to laugh at ourselves. DOs are awesome!!
That's cuz they are DOs. If they were MDs it would be another story
I agree with this with a caveat, that he's not punching down. He's making a joke about a group of people, because of a chosen profession. Not their race, nor gender identity. This is what makes a great comedian. When you can punch up, and still be funny. I wish people gave him more attention.
Edit: Not really a punch-up. More of a lateral punch. Still, my point stands.
Yeah exactly, they took a test to prove that they knew better....and look where it got them, some of these guys need to go touch some grass.
I agree with your comment - it's really in good fun. But you mentioned a group of well educated people getting mad? I thought he just made fun of DOs. 🤔
My disagreement is that plenty of comedians have whined about the reaction, and not bowed down, so I have no idea what world the OP lives in.
Dude, I so miss Patriot Act and there's just neverending material. Please bring it back in some form.
Amazing to have you back Hasan! Also it makes sense to me that if you have a system where medicine is so unbelievably expensive simply for the sake of making money, that teasing a whole class of doctors about not being worth market value would lead to some real upset people.
I wish Patriot Act would be picked up by some other network. That was my Fav show & I Really miss it!
For real!
I think he quit the show. Netflix didn't cancel
We ALL miss it!
No one can ‘pick’ patriot act because Netflix has too much money, they would rather kill it than give someone else rights to run with it
"Can you make fun of someone who Owns their own practice and drives a 5 series", is so laser accurate funny that I'm literally about to buy tickets to the Chicago show. I'd like to offer "Jordan 1 Mid of medical providers". as an alt lol
Glad a scant few DOs could take the joke but the ones who couldn't and sent threats, probably don't deserve to have a medical license! Some MD jumping you at the Harry Potter place and saying we're in a pandemic was indeed ironic and quite passive aggressive but glad the mother could take the joke. Anyway, great production, and good job Tyler!
I had no idea about any of this... What a great piece! I'm feeling better informed and updated on current events in the US+Technology+Entertainment/Culture sections all at the same time!
The callout on the different kind of cast system was brilliant.
So so good
A hierarchy based on solely someone's birth is unethical. A hierarchy based on knowledge, skill, experience and proficiency is essential for patient safety.
It's not a cast system. NPs are highly competent, but they receive less training than MDs. DOs receive much of the same training as MDs, but they also receive training in OMT which is "alternative medicine" aka, not medicine. Honestly, I would trust an NP above a DO (on average) because being taught nonsense as if it was medicine is probably worse than just not knowing some stuff.
Then you’re also mistaken. A US DO receives the exact same education that US MDs do in addition to OMT and both go to the same residencies. A DO is much more qualified than an NP to make a diagnosis.
@@456MrPeople OMT is mostly pseudoscience. Learning pseudoscience as if it was medicine makes someone less able to practice medicine. I would rather trust the NP who will know the limits to their knowledge than the DO who was actively taught wrong things.
The world needs Hasan. He's a perfect blend of all of American cultures in a smooth brown package.
"smooth brown package" looooool
Extremely biased too
@@nirajsingh8403 Well, he's an opinion comedian. I disagree with some of his views too.
Smooth brown package...umm like chocolate 😍.
Yep just like American culture -especially the "smooth brain" package.
Classic Hasan to just double down on it, both with the mother and daughter at Wizarding World and then on stage in S.F. I think that's one thing I've always loved about his comedy -- He goes just a bit further than expected, gets people way outside of their comfort zone, then just waits for them to figure out that they can laugh.
2:08 was a nice moment, show how much they love their work and working with each other
I saw that show, he first joked about them but in the end he just told his experience that he was treated well by the DOcter and became a father and shoutout to the DOs and all. Its his style of comedy, look when he was on the daily show and did an episode on immigration when he interviewed JT he was ACTING like a xenophobe the entire time but proved it wrong in the end. he assimilates with general audiences superstitions and gets proven wrong himself to prove his stuff and Just watch the whole clip if you havent. thanks for reading😀
Which means in the original video, he did clarify that he loves DOs at the end. SMH at those people who got angry from watching a snippet instead of the whole thing. Tells me a lot about the kind of person they are.
When he had said that joke on Jimmy Fallon, I just knew that he was going to get in trouble.😂😂
it's actually so interesting to see how thoroughly planned those conversation on late night tv shows are. i mean you suspect it but i didn't know it was to this extend
Ahhh… we need more of this please!!!
Man this makes me miss Patriot Act so much. I need a comedy special or something already!!!!
Not enough people make fun of/ examine the hierarchy (or caste system, as Hasan said) that sadly exists within the medical field.
A hierarchy based on solely someone's birth is unethical. A hierarchy based on knowledge, skill, experience and proficiency is essential for patient safety.
@@456MrPeople absolutely, they’re so different I wouldn’t call it a caste system at all , degrees have different names for a reason
@@456MrPeople idk about that, every part of the medical field is important. you wouldn't want a doctor to be taking x-rays and radiologists giving out diagnosis for illnesses and the technicians reading the x-rays the doctor takes. without one, the system will crumble at some point
@@kaneki1056 You are so correct. Ironically, the caste system in India is the same. People may see the hierarchy as giving them privilege, but the "lower" castes do extremely necessary jobs that the others cannot exist without.
Actually every1 in the replies
Why do you need a hierarchy? Specialisation yes. Hierarchy, now that's a load of bullsh**
Everyone be talking about the MD/DO joke and heirachy, but no one talking about the RC on his right. Nice touch!
So glad to see you again brother it's been a while missed you downright hilarious very educational. Namaste
Going sooo deep into this throwaway joke is the most beautiful, wonderful thing about this. Hasan, you took it the *PERFECT* point, this makes me so happy.
There is such a toxic heirarchy in medicine and it's one of the only things I truly hate about my job. I work at a well-known medical institution and the sheer amount of ego that I have to deal with on a daily basis is INSANE. Even just among my fellow pharmacy technicians. Like, people literally don't even know we exist and some of my coworkers feel like they're someone important because there's a fancy name on their paystubs. That's to say nothing of the people who have actual degrees and all sorts of fancy letters after their names. And it seems like the more credentials, the more fragile the ego.
I'm not saying everyone in medicine is like this and I know I see a disproportionate amount because of where I work, but it seems that the overinflated, fragile egos are also the most vocal - especially if they perceive a slight against them. It's exhausting and it really needs to stop because this field is stressful enough without having to worry about tripping over someone's ego.
As a Filipino, a huge amount of my friends and family work in the medical industry. Listening to them talk about hospital politics is hilarious. From the incompetent doctor that no one likes, to drama with assignments and promotions, to the rumor mill of who is sleeping with whom. Also the tribalism. The RNs, the Pharmas, the MedTechs, the PTs, the doctors (which themselves are split into the GPs and the specialists), the admins, the paramedics... it's almost like a soap opera.
This is basically it, this is when you lock up a bunch of god complexes and force them to work together.
This is all true. I'm "just an x-ray tech." No one even thinks about us. They don't even poll our patients for patient satisfaction surveys to see how we are doing.
And, just to say it, we're technologists, not technicians! Lol!
BINGO well said!!!
Fully aware you have my life in your hands when you fill that prescription.
I was at the show in L.A. recently and this joke was funny af! It slapped hard! So much I was slapping my knee harder than a DO would with a plexor!!!
"Clearly the enemy here isn't my joke. It's your mother's expectation of her son in law."
DOs: How dare he compare us to RC Cola?!
RC Cola: I'm relevant!!
"Oh... so you believe in another caste system?"
We've missed you.
Thank you, Hasan 🙏🏿
It isn't a caste system when we are comparing the skills of certain professions.
A hierarchy based on solely someone's birth is unethical. A hierarchy based on knowledge, skill, experience and proficiency is essential for patient safety.
Imagine seriously justifying the ridicule of certain professions because they are seen as less "knowledgeable... skilled... [and/or proficient]" as related professions.
At least, Hasan has enough insight as a comedian to shine light on hypocrisy of certain folks to admonish caste culture (which is how people behave within caste systemic factors) while also wanting him to _punch down_ on those perceived lower on the medical hierarchy.... thus, why he phrased the statement as he did.
@@TheLadyBlerd "Seen as" ignores the obvious differences in education and experience... it is objectively true that educational standards differ greatly between MD/DO and midlevel providers. And no one asked him there to talk about NPs, he brought that up himself lol.
Punching down? "Seen" as less skilled? When NPs and PAs are advocating that they should be given the same scope of practice despite having objectively less rigorous training, should people not push back?
I’m a student at my state MD school. My brother is a DO student. I died at the mcat joke at the start LOL
Oh my god!!! I laughed so hard at this whole video. I went to college in Kirksville, MO. The birthplace of Osteopathy. Osteopathy is also the name of a street that had a lot of frat houses on it. You could identify a freshman by how they pronounced Osteopathy. Hasan did not pronounce Osteopathy correctly. Which frankly is hilarious. Loved the comment about Type-A high achieving Kumon kids as well. I worked for Kumon North America for 7 years. When I told people where I worked they would say What's Kumon? But one day a colleague called me and shared that she introduced herself at her husband's medical school orientation and shared our usual introduction of "I work at Kumon, but no one knows what that is" and nearly all of his med school classmates said, "I did Kumon. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't done Kumon." So I guess DO's are just doctors who didnt get to do Kumon. LOL. Also I can vouch that Obama is a good dancer. I have video of him getting down at the Neighborhood Ball at his first inauguration. I was standing pretty close. Anyway, I feel like Hasan Slumdog Millionaired my life in this video.
I like how in the original joke you made fun of yourself calling John Oliver an MD & you a DO & that got zero attention
Exactly!
Amazing that some people understands this but not RC Cola's!
This is hilarious 😂 some people took that do joke so ridiculously, it was surprising because you wouldn't think professionals would make a big deal over something so trivial andd it was a joke but if anything Hasan was shouting out the DO for providing care! Lool I love this vid and Hasan's reaction to everything was so awesome and I love how he keeps running with it LOL. He made material out of it! Very cool to see behind the scenes, the process etc. keep doing what your doing man
I feel like the funniest thing in the whole video is 5:12 when the DO misspelled “varicocele”...
Crazy to think that doctors have egos this fat
@@yoshi9358 Doc (MD) here - you’d be amazed.
6:15 I DID NOT know you had TYLER BABIN filming for you. The man is a content genius! That was a cherry on top of this great video.
DO's be hating, but RC cola is like, "Thanks for the assist."
This is a great bit of storytelling, LOL. BTW my sibling and cousins are both DOs. If you really want to stir the hornet's nest, you should knock on the MDs that went to the Carribean for med school. You'll need to hire private security if you do that, LOL.
He mentioned Caribbean med schools in the jimmy fallon appearance
HAHAHAHA
So true I’m considering Caribbean St. George medical school 😮 😂
Love this response Hasan. Thanks for using my video 😃
Please 😭 not the 😃
@@msubhamaheswari9467 LMFAOOOOO
Babin you're so good at what you do. pieced this together so well
Every person irrespective of their education and financial status deserves to be made fun of
True. To make fun of people, you need to punch up and not down. So we should make fun of doctors lol. But some of them are just high and mighty because they are suppose to be called medical practitioner. Because title Dr is suppose to be exclusive to PhD holders. Because they find novel scientific discovery, and normal doctor just regurgitate what they learn from their predecessor most of the time
This ✨✨
The videography and storytelling is amazing here.
I like how MDs and DOs both say dentists and chiropractors are not real doctors
Totally different professions, also, i haven't heard an MD say dentists aren't doctors, they are real doctors of the teeth. Chiros on the other hand...
In a deeper sense, every job is made up..
In America, chiropractors are not medical doctors. They are essentially hoodoo quacks.
Dentists at least go through medical school. The curriculum for chiropractors does not line up with med school. The theory behind the practice has been proven to be extremely dangerous and unhelpful. It shouldn't even be legal.
I'm in the medical field and have met hundreds of DO and MDs, and not a single one would say that a dentist isn't a doctor. Of course they're doctors.
Among people without an advanced degree, "doctor" is commonly used as a substitute for someone who provides general human medical care. People that have advanced degrees tend to respect each other and call each other doctor irrespective of what they are a doctor of, be it philosophy (PhD), podiatry, or dentistry.
Edit: there is a lot of shady education and practice around chiropractic (eg, vertebral artery dissection due to cervical HVLA on patients with contraindications), so you may sometimes encounter contempt for chiropractors from DOs and MDs for that reason.
Dentists can literally save your life. They can identify throat cancer or keep you from dying from an oral bacterial infection that can get into your bloodstream. Put respect on their name
This 10 minute video is a master class on emotional awareness 👏
Awesome content, as always!
DOs have the exact same schooling as MDs, but DOs actually get 300 extra hours of “osteopathic” training, which is basically like glorified physical therapy. So we get MORE training than MDs, but we allllll take the MCAT and USMLE, but DOs take Comlex along with the USMLE. DOs can become neurosurgeons or cardiologists or whatever MDs can.
"My comedy is a way to bring people together, to laugh at ourselves and see our common humanity through our experiences." - Hasan Minhaj. What a beautiful way of putting it, and he walks the walk.
RIGHT AFTER he compared DOs to RC Cola, he compared HIMSELF to RC Cola, saying John Oliver was Coke. Funny and humble ;) The rest of y'all get a damn sense of humor.
He can make fun of himself all he wants, but people listen to comedians like John Oliver and him because of there’s a little bit of truth to what they say. When he calls DOs inadequate (parody or not) he damages the public opinion of hard working physicians. That’s not cool, nor is it funny.
LOL good point
Hassan is ANYTHING but humble. You people are so sycophantic for these celebrities. It's sad frankly.
@@RHt09 glad someone sees him for who he is.
@@RHt09 Lol what a hilarious statement to make after one quote. He's got an ego, sure, but any comedian who is willing to put himself as the butt of his own joke gets a good mark in my book ;)
I do not think "sycophantic" means what you think it means. I didn't say that to gain advantage with Hassan--I don't think he'll read it. But you did. And you're watching his video, sooo... don't you like the guy too?
"MD are Coca Colas. DOs are ACTUALLY Smart Water"
So.. not a cola, but more expensive? hmm
IMO, I think it’s best to say MDs are coke and DOs are Pepsi. Some people prefer Pepsi over coke. However, majority would pick classic coke given a choice. The flavor is only slightly different between the coke and Pepsi and they both are practically the same.
This sort proves the point that the angry DOs are making. The bias against DOs is real and people like you capitalize off of jokes like his to belittle DOs.
@@RHt09 and what point is that, pray tell? That they're untouchable? That they can't handle facts, and that's why they failed the MCAT? Just take the joke and the money and move on. No harm done. Most people know MDs are not Gods and DOs are not lesser Gods, they're both humans, so why get butthurt over a joke?
@@DurianKing people who fail the mcat go to carriebean MD schools, not DO schools. Most DO schools have some standards and don’t take failing students
@@RHt09 Yeah, people are totally cashing in off of how pathetic a DO is. Really good interpretation of what is going on.
can i just say the cinematography in this video slaps harder than any RC cola i’ve ever had. a comedians video has no right looking better than half the blockbuster movies out rn. mad props to tyler the creator
Yo Tyler and the editing crew you guys killed it !
Hassan Minaj, you’re a genius in the way to dissected the issue and dealt with the disease (MCAT scores) rather than the symptom (DO feeling inferior). I couldn’t resist using analogy that used medical terms!😂
People in the medical field are not known for their sense of humor. I think the years of intensive studying and lack of work life balance made them this way.
They become stoic ... It helps with the environment they live in.
This is a pretty low bar for humor
@@jeffsquared6345 so low that u need to try to lash out at him? Lol. Gtfoh.
@@hythlodaeus9944alright assuming Andy, since you think apparently everyone = me, and I represent the entire DO community according to your stupid logic.
@@jeffsquared6345 bruh it’s ok my MCAT score sucked too
I love my DO so much more than any MD I’ve ever had. She knows her stuff and is focused on prevention, not treatment after the fact. 🤷🏽♀️
I'm so glad that you are officially back out loud. I miss your show so much.
I fucking love this, would've loved to see him live
Isn’t he on tour
Brookie Cookie Yeah he has more dates in 2022
i read live as live as in living or alive and i was wondering about when tf did he die????
I just saw him last month in montana and he was great!
Hasan:- DO's are RC Cola
DO's:- I ma kill this dude!!!
Me:-Could have been worse.. Could have been (God Forbid) Pepsi.....
I love Pepsi 🤣
ayyyye i love that you got Tyler Babin doing video
That zoom into RC cola lol burned 🔥🔥
I can understand DOs being upset bc they've been ridiculed as being fake doctors for decades. So to have a comedian who usually speaks facts tell that joke would be "misinformation." But he showed them a lot of love and credit when he mentioned his kids. If DOs are still mad after THAT then they're the ones with the problem.
He praises his doctor while still implying he’s less intelligent than his colleagues. This is not an apology. Anything less than a sincere apology in which he admits that we are equals rather than inferior is unacceptable. Some people may have used DO schools because they had lower MCATs, but others (like myself) actually wanted to be DOs. I didn’t apply to any MD schools because I wanted to learn the manipulation and have a more holistic education. I did a MD residency and am board certified in my field. His joke is an attack on my and my colleagues’ professional reputations.
@@russellbrunet3924 shut up. mechanics get ripped on all the time. how many jokes have you heard about mechanics doing shoddy work just to have you return and charge you out the ass?
and I still proud of what i do.
Get the sand out your asa
@@russellbrunet3924 its a joke dude, he said you guys have bad MCAT score...as DO, you should emphasis that MCAT is not everything, there are alot of aspect in curing an illness and MCAT test leaning heavily on MD practitioner.
But instead, you took it as insult to your intelligent. You guys literally shot yourself in the foot. The more angrier you are, the more hassan prove you guys feel inferior to MD. That lack of self confident in what you are doing is probably what spark all the outrage.
@@agonleed3841 I’m very proud of what I do. I have quite a few friends and patients who are mechanics. I never said anything about mechanics. Your comment literally makes no sense. He basically states that my training is sub par to an MD. This is not cool. If he knew what he was talking about, and didn’t literally build his career on trying to expose corporate fraud and corruption, you might have an argument that his joke was ok. You can’t use humor to expose people and corporations as being bad, then incorrectly call someone bad “as a joke” and then assume people will think you weren’t really criticizing an entire profession.
@@Baronight you are wrong, the reason his joke wasn’t funny and we were insulted is because we have spent decades proving that we are as good as our MD colleagues, then some jackass who doesn’t know even how to pronounce the degree go on national TV and criticize us for not being able to afford “the good letters”. People believe what he says. They trust him as a television star who exposes crooks and frauds in a funny but poignant way. It’s just not cool.
i am a DOer and i think this was straight up hilarious
Me too, and I agree he was hilarious. HOWEVER there has long been a problem with discrimination against D.O.'s that ends up harming their/our patients in the healthcare system.
"Your sense of humor stops at your MCAT score " LOL
Kudos to Hasan's video editor!
Since Patriot Act wowed us with the visuals it's clear Hasan cares about how things look and are experienced by the viewers. This might sound superficial, but it's actually aiding him in being a clear communicator
does the DO know that Smart Water is just regular tap water?
I was at the SF show! Thank you so much for sharing these parts of your life with us 🤍
I understand both sides of the argument here, it’s a great joke. But I also understand where the DOs are coming from. I don’t think it’s much about the MCAT score or that they have lower stats than MD counterparts, but rather that it creates mistrust in patients and the medical community because they believe “DOs are not even real doctors”. The general public doesn’t know much about the requirements for a medical degree or that MD/DO are equal in practices and training. I think that’s where the frustration is. I know the majority of MD and DO medical students don’t mention the MCAT score because once you’re in, you’re in, the MCAT plays little role if not nothing in what happens next. Some of the messages that were sent to him stated the fact that his statement can cause mistrust not anything about their stats. That’s just my take on why this was a big issue.
You put it perfectly
Personally I'm of the opinion that a modern DO program that doesn't teach the historical voodoo should convert to an MD program and holders of their degrees should be converted at the same time. The existence of DO as a separate things is rooted in part of the medical community rejecting evidence based medicine and so a modern evidence based DO program... you would think they would want to distance themselves from that past rather than to say constantly how they are about the same as MDs...which acts to excuse former practices in people's minds by implying DOs have always been like MDs (which isn't the case).
@@zvxcvxczagree completely. If they’re basically the same then what’s in a name?
This Idea that DO are not as good as MD has existed in the medical community for a very long time the irony is I'm a Medical teacher and the DOs that I teach post medical school are so much better at practicing medicine than MDs are. I think it stems from the feeling that they have to be better and they also approach disease from a slightly different prospective. I found the joke funny even though I know its not true but the perception is true and that is what makes the joke funny.
I was in one of those shows in San Francisco. I was *that-day* years old when I found out there's another kind of doctor besides MDs and dentists 🤣😂
Dentists are not doctors.. Hahaha jk !
To me this is exactly why DOs were upset, like me and my friends who areDO medical students
I think if you wanna make fun of us sure, everyone should be made fun of at some point
But the fact that so many people didn’t even know what DOs are like you and Jimmy fallon, it sent such a bad message to people. And we’re just starting to get out of the stigma now
But I can appreciate the joke and that he responded to this thoughtfully
@@zarahshabs7936 The worst part is that there's two doctors in my close extended family (my grandfather and one of my uncles) and I still had no clue. I wonder if it's just the US that has that MD/ DO separation. I grew up in Guatemala 🇬🇹 I think there everyone is a medical doctor after you get out of medical school, but specialties add different training timeframes (as well as requirements)
@@josebeteta8283 the DO (doctor of osteopathic medicine) degree is specific to the USA and is recognized as equivalent to the MD degree by the American Medical Association. DOs also enjoy international doctoring practice rights for the majority of countries in the world.
DOs are sometimes wrongly assumed to be "osteopaths," because, decades ago, some of the founding hands-on techniques of DO practice were exported internationally and are now practiced without all of the extensive medical school training that DOs get.
Osteopaths are generally not physicians, while all DOs are physicians. Although DOs have the skill set to specialize in osteopathic techniques, it doesn't commonly happen.
That might be confusing but I hope it cleared things up.
@@zarahshabs7936 Part of the stigma is that OMT is taught alongside actual medicine to DO students. There should be a stigma around a degree that grafts the equivalent of chiropractic on top of medical education. That's only going to lead to confusion. If DOs stopped the OMT nonsense then we could just call them MDs.
Say what you want about Jimmy Fallon. He bothered to learn how to say Hasan's name right.
I like how you said that .. 'bothered enough' ... That's respect right there 👍🏽
RIGHT!?!?!
I had no idea any of this was happening so thanks for the update
"WHY DO YOU!!". 10/10....end of all triggers. And i thot laughter was the best medicine.
I need more of Hasan minhaj i don’t care if it’s daily show or Patriot act again I just need him slamming jokes and make me fall on the floor of how much I laughed. I would’ve gone to EVERY show of his tour if my visa allowed me to even go to the U.S. ~your long term biggest fan in Egypt
It's fine. As a software engineer we also make a lot of memes about interns, junior, senior etc 😂😂😂
And we'll laugh at it 😂
Bars. SSr Dev here 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, every field/industry has a totem pole not saying its right just saying it exists everywhere.
Yes, there is a totem pole in every profession. In the medical doctor totem pole is the following.
MD/DO attending physicians
Resident physicians
Medical students
Pre-med student
So to say DOs are “beneath” MDs is simple untrue. More accurate will be making fun of residents
yeah, imagine doing Java or Webdev :D
I'm doing Java :D
@@alyxandrabui7229 nah everyone thinks the bar is under them. MDs definitely scored better than DOs. Just a fact
Bro, I just discovered your existence on that Netflix is a joke video of you talking about billionaires. I love your style. You're like a Russel brand meets Sasha Cohen Baron with a bit of that Chapelle-esque lack of fear to say things how they are and invite people to laugh at the absurdity of it. Don't stop pushing the envelope man, it makes you cooler than a lot.
Really REALLY hoping for more videos like this. I miss the Patriot Report. And I think this format would do really well as a regular thing on youtube.
The fact that he had to say "my comedy was never meant to divide" for this stuff when his literal job is to make authoritarian governments, huge evil cooperations, and some really powerful people mad is insane
It's understood that he's talking about avoiding division of the people rather than their oppressors.
@@Dx-Dm what i mean is that he did not have to buckle under pressure put on him by oppressors but this is different
@@vinayakohri1293 I'm confused. Who are you saying is applying pressure to Hasan or oppressing society here?
@@Dx-Dm All i wanted to say is that it is weird how pressure from a source like the doctors in the US is more than the pressure from the big bad evil/cooperations around the world
@@Dx-Dm Bruh they're saying actual dictators couldn't do to Hassan what some egoistic professionals have done
You are correct on DOs needing more humor about the situation. But it is WAY EASIER for someone to get an MD through a Caribbean school than get into DO school. If someone does really bad on the MCAT, they go to a Caribbean school and can still be an MD. Also, the MCAT is literally the first and easiest of all the exams physicians have to take. So even if you do poorly on it, no one cares past med school admissions because nothing on that exam is medicine. It's a basic science exam.
Having taken those exams, I wouldn't say that the MCAT was the easiest, lol.
@@Dx-Dm opinion aside, no one cares past admission. It is not used in medical licensing whatsoever.
@@jonfilibuster8499 Yeup. I certainly would agree on that point.
Wow this is a really seamless transition to UA-cam content. Most people have problems transitioning to the YT medium. Not because it’s overly difficult but because people don’t realize how different it is. Respect man 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾.
The blatant advertising-withholding as you held the cola can was a really nice touch.
“he just did bad on the mcat” i love this man LMFAO
and u serve food all day lmao
You handled this masterfully, kept it real af, kept them accountable for their insecurities and projections
The first thing I thought when I first heard this joke was -but I love RC cola. :) hahaaa
the fact that the videography is so good for some reason adds to the comedy of the fact that this one joke became a huge controversy 🤣🤣