I almost feel like this is Falcom making a definitive statement that Ys is never going to become a AAA style rpg. Only two characters does seem like a strange choice (at least at face value) but the developers are probably already working on the next game in the series ☺️ I think what’s most important about Ys games is that they keep coming and they provide fun adventures.
I honestly prefer the solo Adol adventures, I know a few of my friends refuse to play any of the newer Ys games because of the party member additions T_T.
@@ACameronUK In fairness... Going back to play the very first games was awful for me LOL Those games were NOT what I was expecting so don't feel too bad. Honestly i'm just down for a new Ys game after playin 8 and 9. I do need to dabble some more in the older games myself.
@diegonunes5896 I can also see why people say Cold Steel IV is exactly like Cold Steel 2, a lot of "Fly here" "Do a quest/task the adds no value to the plot" Rinse and Repeat while once again looking for missing classmates flying in an airship.
@@diegonunes5896 shi thats kinda true i usually dont mind cuz uk im playing a trails game that's supposed to happen but cs 4 never really clicked with me atleast compared to the other ones
After 4 games with a Party System and a Flash Move/Guard System that became more and more easy and broken, going back to a more compqact party and a System that actually rewards good play in a more meaningful way. Can't wait for the game. Now, I can be proven wrong, but your nitpicks are completely up my alley, so i'm even more excited
Hey Taylor! Looks like me and you are on the same page! My MAJOR gripe though was that I just don't want to see Ys lose its identity and become "action Trails" - they need to shut these characters up. After all, the secret to good writing is brevity.
They had a perfect template with Ys 8 but then Ye 9 and apparently X went all in on having more and more boring story(and a gimmick like the boat battles). I'm still excited to check this one out, that's for sure.
i feel like the early character interactions are weird. Adol meets a pirate group that exports and kills people, then just walks around them with zero apprehention. she threatens to cut off his hand and he has zero reason not to believe her. how is her and her group any better then the other villains?
this is explained further in the story demo as to why Adol acted that way (the adventurer being part of it). that and as pirates these guys are tamed. like at one point they say they are lawless barbarians but they are probably one of the most calm vikings i've ever seen with more rule and ethics than the port. I've only played the demo but the game seemed to make the player believe they were evil but like.......they kinda failed at that. Even Sir Carlan in Ys 8 is more antagonizing and more of a villain (despite not being one) than anyone at the Balta Seaforce.
Yeah, I took it as a “ when in Rome” type of thing, they’re in a new land with new rules and that’s just how it functions. The people are not overly oppressed as the Pirates do provide safety and security with safe passage along the seas and protect them from that other empire’s army they’re just really fucked up if you break the rules
Yeah they're pirates, but they're basically the law on this particular sea. Dude at the start hired mercenaries so he didn't have to pay the toll for passage, which was an outwardly antagonistic move. Ya can't throw hands and be surprised when you get smacked.
Y's 8 Lacrimosa of Dana is the best Y's imo. This game is okay but I liked having multiple characters and switching between them. The combat mechanics in this game go from ok to frustrating. It's fun but nothing has wowed me.
Ys 8 was the best for me the story was awesome and had its fair share of drama and the characters fun to play especially ricotta was so much fun and i already miss the primordials and the exploration but i wished for 10 that it had more playable characters
ITs tought. When you make a game as good as VIII how do you top it? They at least made a really great sequel with 9. Some liked it more.Some did not. All you can do is shoot for is quality. I do think they are close to changing too much with this one though. Having to hold a button down to simply sprint is totally unessacary. Its a step backwards gameplay wise.And your weapons visual apperance only change once and there only 2 main characters in the game. Gonna call that lazy.
I was fully expecting the usual "abysmal performance on Switch" critique but the actual critique ended up being too much story? I really like it when Ys games delve more into the story like they did with Ys 8 so I'm pretty happy about this.
It's a Falcom game, so story is to be expected. I wonder if previous games had less story (but still a lot of it) because Falcom simply did not had the resources at that time to pull that off. Ys has always been a bit in the shadow of the Trails series. Falcom even at one time combined Ys and Trails mechanics and story telling in one game called Tokyo Xanadu (a sequel is in the make by the way). Personally I don't mind at all that Ys is going to get more story telling. It's the thing that pulled me into the Falcom games anyway..
when a game feels like it has too much story its cause the story isnt that great. But say you think Ys 8's story isnt that amazing and you're gonna get thrown rocks at by falcom stans
By now on PS5, the scrolling is still broken on the reattempt infiltration menu. You can move the cursor by holding down the stick, but it moves erratically so down to luck if it selects what you want. However, that cutscene has corrected subtitles in English (I play Japanese voice with English subtitles).
i cannot speak for the story since i am not a YS full fan (i've only played lacrimosa of dana, 9 didn't interest me and 10 seemed fun to play in the demo). But in terms of gameplay it's been fun to experiment the combat and raising all the mastery of skills to unlock new ones. but some tips that i discovered while playing the demo: 1) In order for you to do a perfect guard you need to time the block button, on paper this seems simple however there are 2 things to note: the first one is that for some reason is the same button for using duo skills (and for putting your partner next to you) sometimes this is an issue since you might be blocking and suddenly you see karja pull out the duo attack combos. The second is that blocking and perfect blocking work differently, blocking is holding the button but if you want to perfect guard, you need to see the special effects that hover around the character when pressing the block button (like using reflect on KH2) you have to time the attack of the enemy WITH that effect to get a perfect block; however the issue is that if you pressed the button more than once the effect won't appear, thus not making you do a perfect block. HENCE the problem, the block button is also the same button to use duo skills, if you for some reason are using the duo skills and suddenly need to block, it might not work successfully as you might think. Thus making it so that you have to really time it (doesn't help that for bosses, perfect block won't stagger them so if a combo attack goes at you, it might be better to just run). 2) I've played astral chain so the mechanics of combining normal attacks, switching characters and using duo skills is something that i naturally started experimenting on the more skills unlocked. Though it does feel a bit unsyngerize doing so, doesn't feel as natural as Astral Chain but it works (maybe a little too well). 3) As i said, i've only played the demo. but has anyone noticed it's hard to build up fire over ice??? damn i'm lvl 28 on this demo and i still haven't proc the fire status. 4) As for the mana string, it's nice but they don't tell you that depending on the enemy size/type, using it on them can either pull you towards them, or you both pull yourself to it and, weirdly enough, you also pull it to yourself.
I’m currently just playing through the demo but I completely agree about the dialogue. ENDLESS. The characters just never stop talking. Then the game suddenly throws you into a dungeon and honestly I kept dying. Not because I was finding the combat particularly difficult, but because I had zero opportunity to practice and really try it out, the game never lets you PLAY it. By the time I got to that first real boss fight, I was getting wrecked because I had no idea what was going on. I’m sure things get better after, but this demo is painful so far.
Yeah I don't blame you, ys was always supposed to br a non driven game buy thr games changed that. I hatr Dana sacrificing herself and I am noy huge fan of ys 9 story but for ys x I dropped it because runnung away from giant with that quick time event, but yeah to many things bad with this game.
Interesting how different people like this game. I've seen people applaud the pacing of the story past the opening and even declaring it GOTY for them. I think I'm going to love this game personally.
If you like trails series. Ys x seems a lot better. Narrative wise is interesting. I think lore exposition is fine. Especially if you are already invested into ys. Knowing the canonical time line. The explanations which also have references to the later time line ys game. It does feels good. Dropping the combat to 2 is a interesting take. But looking through the skills. Some of them are just elemental attacks of old games. Soooo is there really a innovation as kondo said. Not really fully. Duo skills are mostly the unique ones but haven't seen a lot of them. If anything the new rune system was the intriguing part of the game. Where you stat up and learn skills via leveling and unlocking the nodes. Also I don't recommend inferno mode on a first playthrough... It's tough ahahaha 😂. Other than that I think repetitive will be a thing in all of ys. In most of ys games. I usually try to ignore the slowest character unless they really have the merits. If not I can take a weakness deficiency and continue everything with adol. Since he does do well mostly.
This is totally subjective but every ys game i have played (8, 9 and memories of celcetta) were all slow beginnings and that didn’t bother me at all. The combat flow of this one reminds me more of kingdom hearts so I’ll definitely be picking this up day 1
If you play any of the recent YS games on the hardest difficulty you’ll quickly find out blocking is also a big part of those games. Abusing flash step/ guard for I frames then wailing on the boss isn’t too different from hitting a parry into stagger in this game. It’s a bit slower but I appreciate a more focused approach with fights so far. + the Sp bar not being shared for the first time is overlooked when it comes to speeding up combat.
Well good that I wasn't the only one that couldn't figure out how to properly tackle that worm boss :D Switch version never had that problem with replacing dialogue with japanese text.
Tokyo Xanadu was verbose, but we both loved that to pieces. Do you think it's because the verbose dialogue takes place in main quest scenarios, rather than in Bonding Episodes?
It's probably understandable that nat every Ys-game can advance the time line, considering it's all supposed to come from Adol's diaries. After some point, Adol would have to be either immortal or have adventures multiple times *per day*. In fact, I already foresee Adol either dying or becoming immortal if the series continues on for some more games, just to avoid the obviously unsatisfying "Adol is a lying bastard"-angle
There's always time travel, reincarnation, children, age reversal, alternative realties, cloning, something with souls, etc. Or a new protagonist because Adol sounds like the Pirate King of their universe who sparked a new age.
Oh but we already know Adol will disappear on the north pole leaving behind about 100 diaries at the age of 65 (don't trust me on the exact age, but it should be close to that one). Original source? The manual of the *FIRST* game, back in 1987.
@@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee None. They dropped the name of a few of the journals there (not the name of the games), and they still pick from that pool, so I'd say the setup is still in place, and everyone in the writing team is on board with it.
It's a little after Ys I and II, but before Celceta. Not before 1 and 2. A fair bit of the nautical stuff was, to me, not well done. I sail on tall ships as a hobby (yes IRL), but I understand that my quibbles as such are borne from that. I still enjoy the game of course, but you don't tell a helmsman to set a course and to look for somewhere to make landfall, that's the captain's or chief officer's job because the helmsman is busy steering to the course they're given; and you wouldn't have just one guy manning the cannons etc and so forth. I get it, they're stuck not knowing what to do in the beginning when it comes to escaping, but I don't think they thought through throwing a bunch of young people on a ship with no knowledge of how a tall ship actually functions. As said, they're quibbles of mine given my sailing experience, but at the very least, despite that I can move past those peeves and still enjoy the game for what it is. I'm not sure, given your comments about there only being two playable characters in this, if you've given a lot of thought to the fact Ys I, II, III (The Oath in Felghana) and VI (The Ark of Napishtim) all only featured Adol as playable. It was entirely solo play with him. I enjoyed having a party in IV (Memories of Celceta), VIII (Lacrimosa of Dana) and IX (Monstrum Nox) - I haven't played Ys VII - and I think that was because it worked for the story. Just Adol and Karja works for Ys X, and the solo games worked too. Personally, if people don't like variations in whether or not there's a party, maybe they shouldn't get into the Ys games, because I think, if you're going to play one or two of them, you're probably going to want to become invested in the series, and as such you'll need to deal with Adol being solo for some of them. It's all part and parcel of Adol's adventures. Who can guarantee when you're going to come up a full group of people to join you in combat each and every time when you're travelling the world getting pulled into one difficult situation or another? It's part of that makes the series interesting and unique, to my mind. Falcom generally do very well with making each Ys game different, while creating that mystery that's overarching the overall narrative. I admit Ys X is a bit slow (and to my mind sparse) with the story this time, and there hasn't been nearly enough in terms of ancient places to explore, what with the most recent history being only 100 years past, but I'm glad that later on it does touch on there being much more ancient stuff behind all that. As for Mana Ride... I found it frustrating more often than not. I try to line up to jump on a rail or one of those mana wind surges, and it just veers off and we go plummeting and have to try again (and sometimes again and again) - though it's not nearly as frustrating as the dash jump in Ys IV: The Ark of Napishtim.
This seems fair to some degree, but I have to admit, YsX is still an upgrade from YsIX. IX had a lot of issues with its visuals being so dull and lifeless despite being in a city, and that made me feel so bored in the game. The story was amazing in IX but I do think the pacing had the same issue that X has by the looks of things. I dont mind a longer portion where characters explain things though... I've played games with deeper expositions. from a story department, it shouldnt be THAT much of an issue if you are a fan. as for the combat, I heavily disagree. yes it is a shame that there are only two characters to play, but that gives the devs more time to make to make combat a bit more dynamic in visuals and combos. I dunno... I just felt that those two cons felt a tad heavy handed... saying the game is a "downgrade" is an extreme
Ys IX being mostly inside a city is also one of the reason I didnt finish it. All of the previous game has beautiful locations, Ys IX just looks too drab in comparison, I wasnt able to just pull through
I don't really need party members in my Ys games, my favorite games in the series are ones without them. I do agree the beginning was a bit slow though. Overall I really enjoy the game.
Imo the phasing of dialogue and combat is soooo much better than previous games based on the demo, the cutscenes are great and the combat is a huge improvement than the stupid rock paper scizzor stuff from the previous games. Adol is slower sure but also pushes you to use more mechanics now instead of just spamming attack. Imo it's a lot better than 9 so far.
Totally agree, combat feels more deep while in 9 it was starting to feel way to fast, Sometimes it was like playing a dynasty warriors game. And i would even be fine with having only Adol playable and get more mechanical depth in combat in Exchange, i didnt really used the other characters much anyway, pretty much only when i was forced to because they were resisting adols attacks.
Man I feel the opposite. Combat felt so slow and clunky compared to 8 or 9. Felt like I was playing anime dark souls at times with all the parrying and guarding. I’m used to being able to dash all over the place.
Graphics look amazing and i always felt like YS games had too little story and character banter, so i think i might enjoy this even more than the previos games. I'm old and i sometimes need break from the action.
As a Fan of Older Ys titles i wasn’t really fan of the games with a big roster of characters, so reducing the cast to just 2 is much more appealing to me, I do get the downsides though it’s never a real issue for me personally
I love how each Ys game gives us a new experience. They make use of the story to change the battle system each time. I played seven,VIII,IX and the demo for X. I love all of them. 9 is my favourite concept and gameplay. It was so much fun switching between all the characters, and the story was very interesting. 10's gameplay is fun, and the story is okay. I like the brother/sister bond Adol and Karja have. I don't see any problem with these games. Each one of them gave me a really fun memorable experience.
I beat the game twice. I think honestly i had the opposite opinion i think making it only 2 playable characters was better because in ys8 it was really noticable how awkward some characters played specifically hummel and ys 9 had a similar issue where certain characters felt way better to play as than others. I think having only 2 playable characters actually made them more fun to play and they made both character equally fun to play. also you can leave the last dungeon before completing it to complete whatever you might have missed because the final checkpoint is right before the final boss and they do allow you to fast travel out of the final dungeon. Also i did not run into the issues you mentioned so it was probably patched out. I think my biggest problems with the game was the armored health bars i wish they made it easier to break them and that the ship upgrades didnt carry over into NG+ because ship combat going back to square one was kind of painful. The other problem is one of the final armors can only be gotten once you beaten the game because the character that gives you it leaves your party after a certain point and you cant complete the fish dex till you reach the final dungeon. overall i think it was a really fun experience. I actually really loved this story and side characters I think they did a really amazing job of world building.
I disagree on two points: first i think the atory is good enough. Not gonna win any prizes but im a story driven gamer, so having more story for me was a plus. Second i having just two characters is a great change. Ive alwaya felt like previous Ys games are way too broad, and not for the better. Ehat yiu call variety of gameplay i call tedious farming, since you had to pevel up the skills and stata of all other characters. And at the end of the day, it didnt even depend on which gameplay you liked better bit rather which character dealt better dmg to a specific boss or monster. I absolutely DETEST not being able to use the character i like for every boss fight if im nerfing myself against it. I hated this for ys 8, so im happy its changed now.
Brother's footstep on the island is by far my favorite ost in ys x. Everytime i got to a new island and this ost start playing, i just got a pump rush to explore everything. Also, that centipede boss is annoying. You cant get close to it without getting damage, it hit hard like a truck and you have to perfect your blocking since they changed the perfect dodge mechanics
Just my 0.02, despite some flaws this is still one of my favorite games of this year (and there are like 10-12 good games or DLCs that came out). I might be the odd one out here - I enjoyed the 2 person team, Karja was my breaker and Adol for damage and kind of an evasion tank. Setting up different skills between each member was fun or smashing through the weaker enemies by spamming low cost skills is still entertaining. Yes, early game traversal is abysmal and by the time your ship is fully loaded you may only have 1-3 naval battles left so I do wish there was more. As for the story, I liked it, the last fight had a lot of charm without going into spoilers. I think the devs tried to make the story formula like the Trails series because there were a number of similarities that I noticed that weren't in the previous Ys games. Overall, I liked it outside of a few times the Mana String action was delayed or the camera wasn't at the right angle and fell to the lower levels of a dungeon. 8.5/10; would recommend
Being perfectly honest, Lacrimosa of Dana(Ys 8) was the best in the series and is still talked about today when people talk about some of the best JRPGs they've played. It's kinda hard to top just how good that game was. Having said that, I do get what you mean. This game feels a bit bland in comparison to both 8 and 9(which were hands down my two favorites in the series).
This review is about what I expect for the new Ys game. I heard that Falcom is using a new game engine for this entry. That said, they are trying out a lot of new mechanics to see what the engine can do and what sticks with the players. The next game will see these mechanics refined and a better game will be the result (consider the difference between Memories and Monstrum)
So many games that introduces boats ends up feeling tedious with their navigation system. Both Suikoden IV and Ys X have the same pacing issues caused by not being able to move fast enough to where you want to go while sailing your ship. It can be caused by random encounters, but also sailing speed. A lot of older games would have simply moved you from one point to another with a simple button click rather than sail manually. I think the Ocean being fairly large and empty similarly to a wasteland doesn't really help. Open world games were filled with random tasks/chests/items/puzzles to distract players and fill the void, but open world naval games feel empty in comparison. Old Final Fantasy games have really fast airship navigation where it never feels tedious to travel. In my opinion, modern Ys games really need to focus and work on their pacing.
Leaving a comment so maybe someone will, months after release, remind me to watch it again... but I will SO buy it. Mega-hyped for the game. From what I know about it, the things that make it unique are right up my alley
5:01 So you admit to using the same moves and it starting to feel stale. Bruh the combat looks fresh and fun 7,8,9, and foliage ocean have been the exact some formula for four games dropping to focus on two characters isn’t a step back, it’s a return to form
If you can convey the meaning in a single sentence, it's better than using multiple ones. In high school, I often wrote wordy sentences just to meet page requirements. In my first English class in college, I was awarded with a C on my first assignment. Ever since Trails of Cold Steel, the characters in Falcom games have become too verbose. I appreciate their effort writing all those dialogues but I think its too much.... or maybe I am getting old :(.
On the outside looking in, they weren’t expecting Ys VIII to be as successful as it was, Ys IX was already in development by the time Ys VIII came out, After the massive popularity of Ys VIII its like Ys X tried to jack it’s entire vibe for my money.
I kinda agree tbh, i played in japanese last year and yeah it takes forever. And idk the combat just feels slower to me, Adol was really fast in 8 and 9. Here they slowed him down for this partner tag mechanic thing. Just feels like they put too many gimmicks with this game. I just want the simple but hard to master combat of the previous games since 8
let's be real though, Adol has always been the best character in the last 2 games. They probably saw the player data and figured it be better to create a deeper system with fewer characters vs several C and D tier characters that leave you ultimately wanting to just play as Adol.
Not even true in YSVIII Dana broke the game and Laxia along with Hummel the most broken Ys character to exist, in IX it was Krysha and Bull. Actually play the games before you speak at this point.
@@yurrp-eq7qg Yeah i know i talked to a person thats never played the modern Ys games clearly cause Hummel is argued the most broken and Krysha and Bull break 9 so hard. Damage types don't matter in any way and krysha has the best dps skills and framedata and Hummel is stupidly busted with great framedata and can play from a range where he never gets hit. In IX speedruns Bull is used for a majority of the run. Dana breaks YS VIII speedruns. Laxia is used till they do a glitch for dana but the best in VIII are Hummel, Dana and Laxia. Again play the games before talking.
@@dave9515 I've played both 8 and 9 and I can say you're wrong. Adol is the best character. Not by a large margin mind you, but his abilities always seem to be the most versatile for any situation. He's the Swiss Army Knife of the party. You can use him for pretty much any situation against any enemy. The other characters often times are only good during the situation that requires them.
I confess that I had no expectations for this game, but after the first chapter it surprised me, the gameplay It is dynamic, agile and way more than just button mashing, especially in higher difficulties (I'm playing nightmare). Plus, loved that it has the parry. However, I believe that the game lacks in graphics, which are not bad but some textures are too simple and especially in localization, the game has been translated into very few languages, if I'm not mistaken only 3. In a genre that focuses a lot on the story, this factor ends up weighing more and the absence ends up driving many people away.
Combat seems more floaty when you're in mid air like how KH feels, or at least that's what I get from watching clips. I'd play it regardless because it's Ys
I have been playing the demo and the boss at the end of Chapter 2 highlights what I don't like with the new Combat System. With 8 and 9, I developed a play style of using Flash Guard almost exclusively. X's system forces you to use Guarding with little to no point of using Flash Guard. I find myself try to dodge out of the way only to be homing punched and 2 shotted. The combat system killed my excitement for the new entry.
Hot take but i never truly vibed wirh Ys combat due to the fact of how limp and mashy the games felt (ys 8 i do like tho) yet tbis game has so much good feedback on all of your hits and the synergy mechanic felt really fresh tbh
I just finished Trails through Daybreak and then played this. I could not even get past the first lighthouse incident in the first hour of the game because there is endless dialogue….
The music dissapointed me the most, Singa should not have had nearly the entire ost to himself smh but guess it can't be helped since there isn't alot of composers on the internal sound team anymore
I couldn't take it anymore and altf4'd randomly in chapter 3 after I got ported to the island again when looting that hover board. Too bad it gets better later, but I don't think I'll play again
chased by a gigant after the village is attacked and i just seem to get through this at all...i get past a few hurdles but at the 3rd or 4th i gets killed ower n over again and again and just cant get anywhere and this has never happened in any YS game before so im starting to get really mad at this game(just when it starts to get really great i cant get through the chase!) So anyone knows how to make it through?? cant find anything about what im doing wrong? Thansk
Was playing more of the demo earlier and it would be nice if I could turn off the "tips". It's a small nitpick but the game so far is fun to play I'm ready for it's release
Played 4 chapters and I’m still kinda bored. I appreciate the characters voice acting and visuals. The story is nice I guess but idk just didn’t grip me. Oh well. I’m glad others enjoy it
@@TheGamingShelf i think all the story stuff and text is a pain too when i play a game in one go, but taking breaks, i think they're great. Disgaea 6 and 7 I played through one go in a week and halfway through i just started skipping all the dialog cuz i was tired of it.
I was a bit concerned this video was going to be a burial of Ys X, so its good you felt it was far from that. Falcom does need to be careful about making Ys a Trails game with its writing but it also needs to have compelling reasons for its game world, so that will be a tough task as they continue on. You did a solid job of pointing out some inadequacies in it. I have the Limited Edition preordered and I know I'm gonna love this. Thanks Taylor!
I thought 8 and 9 were pretty solid stories. 9 was a little back ended because they had so many monstrums to introduce but man I didn't see the twists!
Defintely had higher hopes and its not reaching those. Every negative you said plus the fact that all the areas look so samey. From pics it looked more akin to 8 so I thought the environments would have more variety and more color. Also very easy to button mash through this. No idea how to use the skill tree nor have any interest to figure it out. 8 is still the goat.
@@protolegacy9184 I'll play it probably when it goes on sale. I haven't even played 9 yet. Does Ys X get boring? It just seems weird only having 2 playable characters... I liked the flash guard and dodging too.
hello, as an ys fan whos played lacramosa, nox, memories of celceta and origins, i have my fair share of issues with the game. do not buy the switch version, from my experience with the switch version i can confidently say that the switch version suffers from slow down and performance issues that would normaly not be a problem but if your familliar with the other titles youll notice a significant downgrade in performance from previous titles. the game feels like it was developed by a different team entirely, my biggest problem is that everything about the game is so slow, their also feels like their is input delay. with regards to the game being slow, slower running speed, more and longer loading screens, the ship moves at a snails pace, the hoverboard does not keep momentum, also the energetic soundtrack that accompanies these games feels like its missing. some game design features are also irritating, like how in alot of areas the game punishes you for missing a jump by landing you in mud where you will then have to walk slowly to get to shore to try the jump again, holding the use button to open chests and dig is also irritating as more often than not you will instead end up triggering your charge ability. the story so far has been your standard Ys fair so no complaints on that part, but the gameplay is just so bad compared to other ys titles. If this is your first ys game, i highly recommend getting lacramosa of dana instead, no performance issues and a better representation of ys gameplay.
Combat from demo alone felt super clunky and sluggish. Mana bursts being the only way outside character swap to regen sp is awful especially since auto combos no longer matter at all. The duo mechanic being a gimmick and not the main gameplay style greatly disappointed me with how much they were hyping it up in trailers and interviews along with the other mana related stuff and the duo mechanic is incredible unfun and clunky with how you can't run or dodge blue attacks and oh i hate how dodging is only relegated to dodging a specific attack now to counter which makes the dodge button worthless. Mana seeds are such a great idea and arte chain system but i would love them in a better Ys game honestly. Feels like a massive step down from IX and even VIII. Fishing just being like VIII also sucks cause i felt YSVIII fishing wasn't that good to begin with also hearing the whole final chapter locking you in place sounds a lot like what they did with Kai. Character switching has lag now and everything feels far too committal. I don't understand how so many are loving this Ys game honestly. IX was super fun and improved the combat from 8 even bringing back boost an old Ys mechanic and then the parkour and monstrum abilities made movement really fun while X decides to put invisible walls everywhere like VIII again making exploring and moving so unfun when in IX you could run on buildings and jump on them, glide, run on walls and IX brought back dungeons to the series for X to remove them again.
Im so hyped for this game. Im sad to hear they overloaded the story in the beginning. It sounds like ots a rough entry in the series. Still keen to my hands on it. Great review!
For me the best game in the series is YS IV Mask of the Sun the New Chaos Theory for PS2. YS X Nordics to me absolutely didn't like it. Everything is monotonous here: gameplay, enemies, sea battles. All that remains of the YS series is the soundtrack, it is magnificent.
After playing it myself... It made me love Ys Series again ... BTW that sandworm is very easy, when he does the sucking you've gotta block or perfect block it indifinitely :D Its the Cheese strategy tho, because theres a chance that he'll gonna do it until he dies :D Edit: I played it on hard difficulty in coop
I work for a review blog and we couldn't get in touch with Nis America to cover this title. How do you do that? Do you mind sharing? I tried contacting the press but they told me to request the key through game.press, but it never arrives. Other than that, excellent video as always.
I couldn't disagree more, i love the beginning chapters! My only complaint is the slow ship in the beginning of the game. Besides that, no complaints from me, the game is awesome
Man I miss the times when it was just Adol and his magical items wrecking shits on new places. Now we need to have at least 2 playable characters for Adol to succeed. Lame..
I think the issue is that Adol just does not talk and it needs narritive. Then the script writers just go overboard with whatever basic storyline that is layed out and go apeshit with all the side characters. Its their job yea,and they are good at it but they give them too much to do in the series now. Less is more sometimes.
The BIG problem i had with Ys X (japanese version), it's that the gameplay felt so slow... never seen an Ys game been this slow since the Ys games when you were just bumping on enemies, there's no flash guard nor flash moves (a staple for Ys games), the main gimmick of this game is about perfect blocking (which isn't that hard to execute, the window is pretty generous). Still a good game but i was more satisfied with the Switch remaster of Oath in Felghana personally (again, japanese version) and some older titles like Ys VIII, Origin or even Ys IX for it's very fast paced gameplay alone (the story was meh though).
@@StewNWT I do think sailing from island to island is not a bad idea but when you see the same graphical theme for the third time. Its just something gaming is going to do. Gotta change something. Weather something.
I almost feel like this is Falcom making a definitive statement that Ys is never going to become a AAA style rpg. Only two characters does seem like a strange choice (at least at face value) but the developers are probably already working on the next game in the series ☺️ I think what’s most important about Ys games is that they keep coming and they provide fun adventures.
I honestly prefer the solo Adol adventures, I know a few of my friends refuse to play any of the newer Ys games because of the party member additions T_T.
This is a weird take given the game once was a solo adventure.
@@Am4t3r4su in fairness I’m kind of a fake YS fan as I’ve only played VIII, IX and Origins 🥺
@@ACameronUK In fairness... Going back to play the very first games was awful for me LOL
Those games were NOT what I was expecting so don't feel too bad. Honestly i'm just down for a new Ys game after playin 8 and 9. I do need to dabble some more in the older games myself.
I much prefer the games where Adol is solo. This formula of Ys Celceta/7/8/9 was good but is tired now. I wish they'd just shake things up a bit
Not every game needs 10 playable characters... I'm here for Adol, it would be fine to have only him and occasional Dogi breaking through the walls.
I don't think anyone here is asking for 10 playable characters... this isn't FF: Type-0. But I would like more than just two.
@@allthatishere well I'm tired of 3 people party and 6 playable characters. So this good for me.
I remove Adol from my party asap every chance I get.
Honestly, I'd rather have only Adol as playable characters.
Im agreed
I've noticed with Falcom on some games they have a tendency of dragging out pointless and boring dialogue.
Oh try playing trails of cold steel 4. You'll see real dragged out dialogue.
@diegonunes5896 I'm about to fight the Steel Maiden.
@diegonunes5896 I can also see why people say Cold Steel IV is exactly like Cold Steel 2, a lot of "Fly here" "Do a quest/task the adds no value to the plot" Rinse and Repeat while once again looking for missing classmates flying in an airship.
@@diegonunes5896 shi thats kinda true i usually dont mind cuz uk im playing a trails game that's supposed to happen but cs 4 never really clicked with me atleast compared to the other ones
After 4 games with a Party System and a Flash Move/Guard System that became more and more easy and broken, going back to a more compqact party and a System that actually rewards good play in a more meaningful way. Can't wait for the game. Now, I can be proven wrong, but your nitpicks are completely up my alley, so i'm even more excited
Still a fun game so don't worry too much ;)
I haven't been able to trust your jrpg reviews for a while now, so I'll make my own determination here.
Lol another Y's sheep. Probably a Kamala fan too
Wat? @@Kensterrrrr
Ive played every ys game and this one is the best one. Dialog was worse in 8 and 9 in terms of never shutting up
Hey Taylor! Looks like me and you are on the same page! My MAJOR gripe though was that I just don't want to see Ys lose its identity and become "action Trails" - they need to shut these characters up. After all, the secret to good writing is brevity.
Hey David 😊
"Brevity is the soul of wit."
@@R3GARnator brevity is a lot of good things and the trails series could definitely learn from it
They had a perfect template with Ys 8 but then Ye 9 and apparently X went all in on having more and more boring story(and a gimmick like the boat battles). I'm still excited to check this one out, that's for sure.
I rather have action combat, that's what got me into this whole Ys series.
8:38 "There is nothing on the level like Sunshine Coastline from Ys VIII..." This made me smile so much. Take my like
i feel like the early character interactions are weird. Adol meets a pirate group that exports and kills people, then just walks around them with zero apprehention. she threatens to cut off his hand and he has zero reason not to believe her. how is her and her group any better then the other villains?
this is explained further in the story demo as to why Adol acted that way (the adventurer being part of it).
that and as pirates these guys are tamed. like at one point they say they are lawless barbarians but they are probably one of the most calm vikings i've ever seen with more rule and ethics than the port. I've only played the demo but the game seemed to make the player believe they were evil but like.......they kinda failed at that. Even Sir Carlan in Ys 8 is more antagonizing and more of a villain (despite not being one) than anyone at the Balta Seaforce.
Yeah, I took it as a “ when in Rome” type of thing, they’re in a new land with new rules and that’s just how it functions. The people are not overly oppressed as the Pirates do provide safety and security with safe passage along the seas and protect them from that other empire’s army they’re just really fucked up if you break the rules
Yeah they're pirates, but they're basically the law on this particular sea. Dude at the start hired mercenaries so he didn't have to pay the toll for passage, which was an outwardly antagonistic move. Ya can't throw hands and be surprised when you get smacked.
Y's 8 Lacrimosa of Dana is the best Y's imo. This game is okay but I liked having multiple characters and switching between them. The combat mechanics in this game go from ok to frustrating. It's fun but nothing has wowed me.
Ys 8 was the best for me the story was awesome and had its fair share of drama and the characters fun to play especially ricotta was so much fun and i already miss the primordials and the exploration but i wished for 10 that it had more playable characters
Same.
Exactly! Best part of IX was the VIII Easter Egg.
ITs tought. When you make a game as good as VIII how do you top it? They at least made a really great sequel with 9. Some liked it more.Some did not. All you can do is shoot for is quality. I do think they are close to changing too much with this one though. Having to hold a button down to simply sprint is totally unessacary. Its a step backwards gameplay wise.And your weapons visual apperance only change once and there only 2 main characters in the game. Gonna call that lazy.
Completely disagree. I prefer less characters. And having played the demo, karja and adol will do just fine for me.
I was fully expecting the usual "abysmal performance on Switch" critique but the actual critique ended up being too much story?
I really like it when Ys games delve more into the story like they did with Ys 8 so I'm pretty happy about this.
Agree, even Ys 9 has some of the most focus in story as well.
Didn't play it on Switch so not sure.
It's a Falcom game, so story is to be expected. I wonder if previous games had less story (but still a lot of it) because Falcom simply did not had the resources at that time to pull that off. Ys has always been a bit in the shadow of the Trails series. Falcom even at one time combined Ys and Trails mechanics and story telling in one game called Tokyo Xanadu (a sequel is in the make by the way).
Personally I don't mind at all that Ys is going to get more story telling. It's the thing that pulled me into the Falcom games anyway..
when a game feels like it has too much story its cause the story isnt that great. But say you think Ys 8's story isnt that amazing and you're gonna get thrown rocks at by falcom stans
I'd avoid ys on switch, I somehow did 8 but omg I'm not even 30 and I can't read the text for ys 9 on handheld.
By now on PS5, the scrolling is still broken on the reattempt infiltration menu. You can move the cursor by holding down the stick, but it moves erratically so down to luck if it selects what you want. However, that cutscene has corrected subtitles in English (I play Japanese voice with English subtitles).
i cannot speak for the story since i am not a YS full fan (i've only played lacrimosa of dana, 9 didn't interest me and 10 seemed fun to play in the demo). But in terms of gameplay it's been fun to experiment the combat and raising all the mastery of skills to unlock new ones. but some tips that i discovered while playing the demo:
1) In order for you to do a perfect guard you need to time the block button, on paper this seems simple however there are 2 things to note:
the first one is that for some reason is the same button for using duo skills (and for putting your partner next to you) sometimes this is an issue since you might be blocking and suddenly you see karja pull out the duo attack combos.
The second is that blocking and perfect blocking work differently, blocking is holding the button but if you want to perfect guard, you need to see the special effects that hover around the character when pressing the block button (like using reflect on KH2) you have to time the attack of the enemy WITH that effect to get a perfect block; however the issue is that if you pressed the button more than once the effect won't appear, thus not making you do a perfect block.
HENCE the problem, the block button is also the same button to use duo skills, if you for some reason are using the duo skills and suddenly need to block, it might not work successfully as you might think. Thus making it so that you have to really time it (doesn't help that for bosses, perfect block won't stagger them so if a combo attack goes at you, it might be better to just run).
2) I've played astral chain so the mechanics of combining normal attacks, switching characters and using duo skills is something that i naturally started experimenting on the more skills unlocked. Though it does feel a bit unsyngerize doing so, doesn't feel as natural as Astral Chain but it works (maybe a little too well).
3) As i said, i've only played the demo. but has anyone noticed it's hard to build up fire over ice??? damn i'm lvl 28 on this demo and i still haven't proc the fire status.
4) As for the mana string, it's nice but they don't tell you that depending on the enemy size/type, using it on them can either pull you towards them, or you both pull yourself to it and, weirdly enough, you also pull it to yourself.
The game got a lot better for me when I changed all of the button inputs to something more comfortable.
What did you change them too? The current and default control scheme feels so awkward for me compared to 8 and 9.
@@Kuzunoha- I changed them to be more like 9. Jump with X, Attack with square, switch characters with O.
I’m currently just playing through the demo but I completely agree about the dialogue. ENDLESS. The characters just never stop talking. Then the game suddenly throws you into a dungeon and honestly I kept dying. Not because I was finding the combat particularly difficult, but because I had zero opportunity to practice and really try it out, the game never lets you PLAY it. By the time I got to that first real boss fight, I was getting wrecked because I had no idea what was going on. I’m sure things get better after, but this demo is painful so far.
Wait until you play Trails series another game made by Falcom.
You will be overwhelmed with the amount of dialogue in that game
The kubrick of video games
@kkm861 I hate to say it but I had to drop the series due to the sheer amount of dialogue
@@mcm426 well that's what RPG game is, maybe those shitty gacha games with less dialogue are more suitable for you
Yeah I don't blame you, ys was always supposed to br a non driven game buy thr games changed that. I hatr Dana sacrificing herself and I am noy huge fan of ys 9 story but for ys x I dropped it because runnung away from giant with that quick time event, but yeah to many things bad with this game.
Interesting how different people like this game. I've seen people applaud the pacing of the story past the opening and even declaring it GOTY for them. I think I'm going to love this game personally.
If you like trails series. Ys x seems a lot better. Narrative wise is interesting. I think lore exposition is fine. Especially if you are already invested into ys. Knowing the canonical time line. The explanations which also have references to the later time line ys game. It does feels good. Dropping the combat to 2 is a interesting take. But looking through the skills. Some of them are just elemental attacks of old games. Soooo is there really a innovation as kondo said. Not really fully. Duo skills are mostly the unique ones but haven't seen a lot of them. If anything the new rune system was the intriguing part of the game. Where you stat up and learn skills via leveling and unlocking the nodes. Also I don't recommend inferno mode on a first playthrough... It's tough ahahaha 😂. Other than that I think repetitive will be a thing in all of ys. In most of ys games. I usually try to ignore the slowest character unless they really have the merits. If not I can take a weakness deficiency and continue everything with adol. Since he does do well mostly.
YS X was totally my GOTY for 2024
This takes places after Ys 1 and 2 but before Celceta not before Books 1 and 2
Yes I misspoke.
This is totally subjective but every ys game i have played (8, 9 and memories of celcetta) were all slow beginnings and that didn’t bother me at all. The combat flow of this one reminds me more of kingdom hearts so I’ll definitely be picking this up day 1
If you play any of the recent YS games on the hardest difficulty you’ll quickly find out blocking is also a big part of those games. Abusing flash step/ guard for I frames then wailing on the boss isn’t too different from hitting a parry into stagger in this game. It’s a bit slower but I appreciate a more focused approach with fights so far.
+ the Sp bar not being shared for the first time is overlooked when it comes to speeding up combat.
I learned to speed run Ys 8 and blocking timing is CRUCIAL for good times.
I did not realize how good this game looks visually until this video.
Well good that I wasn't the only one that couldn't figure out how to properly tackle that worm boss :D Switch version never had that problem with replacing dialogue with japanese text.
The worm boss was so bad OMG.
Tokyo Xanadu was verbose, but we both loved that to pieces. Do you think it's because the verbose dialogue takes place in main quest scenarios, rather than in Bonding Episodes?
Could be!
It's probably understandable that nat every Ys-game can advance the time line, considering it's all supposed to come from Adol's diaries. After some point, Adol would have to be either immortal or have adventures multiple times *per day*.
In fact, I already foresee Adol either dying or becoming immortal if the series continues on for some more games, just to avoid the obviously unsatisfying "Adol is a lying bastard"-angle
There's always time travel, reincarnation, children, age reversal, alternative realties, cloning, something with souls, etc. Or a new protagonist because Adol sounds like the Pirate King of their universe who sparked a new age.
@@1ProAssassin i'm honestly surprised Adol doesn't have legends spread about him by YS 9
Oh but we already know Adol will disappear on the north pole leaving behind about 100 diaries at the age of 65 (don't trust me on the exact age, but it should be close to that one). Original source? The manual of the *FIRST* game, back in 1987.
@@Javifaa what are the chances that they change that?
@@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee None. They dropped the name of a few of the journals there (not the name of the games), and they still pick from that pool, so I'd say the setup is still in place, and everyone in the writing team is on board with it.
It's a little after Ys I and II, but before Celceta. Not before 1 and 2.
A fair bit of the nautical stuff was, to me, not well done. I sail on tall ships as a hobby (yes IRL), but I understand that my quibbles as such are borne from that. I still enjoy the game of course, but you don't tell a helmsman to set a course and to look for somewhere to make landfall, that's the captain's or chief officer's job because the helmsman is busy steering to the course they're given; and you wouldn't have just one guy manning the cannons etc and so forth. I get it, they're stuck not knowing what to do in the beginning when it comes to escaping, but I don't think they thought through throwing a bunch of young people on a ship with no knowledge of how a tall ship actually functions. As said, they're quibbles of mine given my sailing experience, but at the very least, despite that I can move past those peeves and still enjoy the game for what it is.
I'm not sure, given your comments about there only being two playable characters in this, if you've given a lot of thought to the fact Ys I, II, III (The Oath in Felghana) and VI (The Ark of Napishtim) all only featured Adol as playable. It was entirely solo play with him. I enjoyed having a party in IV (Memories of Celceta), VIII (Lacrimosa of Dana) and IX (Monstrum Nox) - I haven't played Ys VII - and I think that was because it worked for the story. Just Adol and Karja works for Ys X, and the solo games worked too. Personally, if people don't like variations in whether or not there's a party, maybe they shouldn't get into the Ys games, because I think, if you're going to play one or two of them, you're probably going to want to become invested in the series, and as such you'll need to deal with Adol being solo for some of them. It's all part and parcel of Adol's adventures. Who can guarantee when you're going to come up a full group of people to join you in combat each and every time when you're travelling the world getting pulled into one difficult situation or another? It's part of that makes the series interesting and unique, to my mind.
Falcom generally do very well with making each Ys game different, while creating that mystery that's overarching the overall narrative. I admit Ys X is a bit slow (and to my mind sparse) with the story this time, and there hasn't been nearly enough in terms of ancient places to explore, what with the most recent history being only 100 years past, but I'm glad that later on it does touch on there being much more ancient stuff behind all that.
As for Mana Ride... I found it frustrating more often than not. I try to line up to jump on a rail or one of those mana wind surges, and it just veers off and we go plummeting and have to try again (and sometimes again and again) - though it's not nearly as frustrating as the dash jump in Ys IV: The Ark of Napishtim.
@0:30 Ys X actually takes place after Books 1 & 2 but before Celceta.
This seems fair to some degree, but I have to admit, YsX is still an upgrade from YsIX. IX had a lot of issues with its visuals being so dull and lifeless despite being in a city, and that made me feel so bored in the game. The story was amazing in IX but I do think the pacing had the same issue that X has by the looks of things. I dont mind a longer portion where characters explain things though... I've played games with deeper expositions. from a story department, it shouldnt be THAT much of an issue if you are a fan. as for the combat, I heavily disagree. yes it is a shame that there are only two characters to play, but that gives the devs more time to make to make combat a bit more dynamic in visuals and combos. I dunno... I just felt that those two cons felt a tad heavy handed... saying the game is a "downgrade" is an extreme
Agree to disagree :) I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheGamingShelf oh totally my guy! this video is really well made and I wish you had more of a following!
I quite enjoyed ys 9. After stranded away from civilization in 8 I felt like 9 was a nice change of pace
@@Joseph928100 agreed
Ys IX being mostly inside a city is also one of the reason I didnt finish it. All of the previous game has beautiful locations, Ys IX just looks too drab in comparison, I wasnt able to just pull through
i loved. and doesnt rely on the graphics perspective. only gameplay which is the right thing to do.
I don't really need party members in my Ys games, my favorite games in the series are ones without them. I do agree the beginning was a bit slow though. Overall I really enjoy the game.
Imo the phasing of dialogue and combat is soooo much better than previous games based on the demo, the cutscenes are great and the combat is a huge improvement than the stupid rock paper scizzor stuff from the previous games. Adol is slower sure but also pushes you to use more mechanics now instead of just spamming attack. Imo it's a lot better than 9 so far.
Totally agree, combat feels more deep while in 9 it was starting to feel way to fast, Sometimes it was like playing a dynasty warriors game. And i would even be fine with having only Adol playable and get more mechanical depth in combat in Exchange, i didnt really used the other characters much anyway, pretty much only when i was forced to because they were resisting adols attacks.
Man I feel the opposite. Combat felt so slow and clunky compared to 8 or 9. Felt like I was playing anime dark souls at times with all the parrying and guarding. I’m used to being able to dash all over the place.
Graphics look amazing and i always felt like YS games had too little story and character banter, so i think i might enjoy this even more than the previos games. I'm old and i sometimes need break from the action.
As a Fan of Older Ys titles i wasn’t really fan of the games with a big roster of characters, so reducing the cast to just 2 is much more appealing to me, I do get the downsides though it’s never a real issue for me personally
I love how each Ys game gives us a new experience. They make use of the story to change the battle system each time. I played seven,VIII,IX and the demo for X. I love all of them. 9 is my favourite concept and gameplay. It was so much fun switching between all the characters, and the story was very interesting. 10's gameplay is fun, and the story is okay. I like the brother/sister bond Adol and Karja have. I don't see any problem with these games. Each one of them gave me a really fun memorable experience.
I beat the game twice. I think honestly i had the opposite opinion i think making it only 2 playable characters was better because in ys8 it was really noticable how awkward some characters played specifically hummel and ys 9 had a similar issue where certain characters felt way better to play as than others. I think having only 2 playable characters actually made them more fun to play and they made both character equally fun to play. also you can leave the last dungeon before completing it to complete whatever you might have missed because the final checkpoint is right before the final boss and they do allow you to fast travel out of the final dungeon.
Also i did not run into the issues you mentioned so it was probably patched out. I think my biggest problems with the game was the armored health bars i wish they made it easier to break them and that the ship upgrades didnt carry over into NG+ because ship combat going back to square one was kind of painful. The other problem is one of the final armors can only be gotten once you beaten the game because the character that gives you it leaves your party after a certain point and you cant complete the fish dex till you reach the final dungeon. overall i think it was a really fun experience. I actually really loved this story and side characters I think they did a really amazing job of world building.
I disagree on two points: first i think the atory is good enough. Not gonna win any prizes but im a story driven gamer, so having more story for me was a plus. Second i having just two characters is a great change. Ive alwaya felt like previous Ys games are way too broad, and not for the better. Ehat yiu call variety of gameplay i call tedious farming, since you had to pevel up the skills and stata of all other characters. And at the end of the day, it didnt even depend on which gameplay you liked better bit rather which character dealt better dmg to a specific boss or monster. I absolutely DETEST not being able to use the character i like for every boss fight if im nerfing myself against it. I hated this for ys 8, so im happy its changed now.
Brother's footstep on the island is by far my favorite ost in ys x. Everytime i got to a new island and this ost start playing, i just got a pump rush to explore everything.
Also, that centipede boss is annoying. You cant get close to it without getting damage, it hit hard like a truck and you have to perfect your blocking since they changed the perfect dodge mechanics
Yes! That boss is awful. I don't know what they were thinking.
Just my 0.02, despite some flaws this is still one of my favorite games of this year (and there are like 10-12 good games or DLCs that came out). I might be the odd one out here - I enjoyed the 2 person team, Karja was my breaker and Adol for damage and kind of an evasion tank. Setting up different skills between each member was fun or smashing through the weaker enemies by spamming low cost skills is still entertaining. Yes, early game traversal is abysmal and by the time your ship is fully loaded you may only have 1-3 naval battles left so I do wish there was more. As for the story, I liked it, the last fight had a lot of charm without going into spoilers. I think the devs tried to make the story formula like the Trails series because there were a number of similarities that I noticed that weren't in the previous Ys games. Overall, I liked it outside of a few times the Mana String action was delayed or the camera wasn't at the right angle and fell to the lower levels of a dungeon. 8.5/10; would recommend
Being perfectly honest, Lacrimosa of Dana(Ys 8) was the best in the series and is still talked about today when people talk about some of the best JRPGs they've played. It's kinda hard to top just how good that game was.
Having said that, I do get what you mean. This game feels a bit bland in comparison to both 8 and 9(which were hands down my two favorites in the series).
This review is about what I expect for the new Ys game. I heard that Falcom is using a new game engine for this entry. That said, they are trying out a lot of new mechanics to see what the engine can do and what sticks with the players. The next game will see these mechanics refined and a better game will be the result (consider the difference between Memories and Monstrum)
So many games that introduces boats ends up feeling tedious with their navigation system. Both Suikoden IV and Ys X have the same pacing issues caused by not being able to move fast enough to where you want to go while sailing your ship. It can be caused by random encounters, but also sailing speed. A lot of older games would have simply moved you from one point to another with a simple button click rather than sail manually. I think the Ocean being fairly large and empty similarly to a wasteland doesn't really help. Open world games were filled with random tasks/chests/items/puzzles to distract players and fill the void, but open world naval games feel empty in comparison. Old Final Fantasy games have really fast airship navigation where it never feels tedious to travel. In my opinion, modern Ys games really need to focus and work on their pacing.
Does the controller vibrate when you attack? I remember in ys 8 and 9 there it only vibrated when you took damage.
Leaving a comment so maybe someone will, months after release, remind me to watch it again... but I will SO buy it. Mega-hyped for the game. From what I know about it, the things that make it unique are right up my alley
5:01 So you admit to using the same moves and it starting to feel stale. Bruh the combat looks fresh and fun 7,8,9, and foliage ocean have been the exact some formula for four games dropping to focus on two characters isn’t a step back, it’s a return to form
If you can convey the meaning in a single sentence, it's better than using multiple ones. In high school, I often wrote wordy sentences just to meet page requirements. In my first English class in college, I was awarded with a C on my first assignment.
Ever since Trails of Cold Steel, the characters in Falcom games have become too verbose. I appreciate their effort writing all those dialogues but I think its too much.... or maybe I am getting old :(.
On the outside looking in, they weren’t expecting Ys VIII to be as successful as it was, Ys IX was already in development by the time Ys VIII came out, After the massive popularity of Ys VIII its like Ys X tried to jack it’s entire vibe for my money.
I like the nod to history such as the Normans (viking french), Romuns (Romans), and Ispaniards (spaniards)
They should have continued ys9 style, that game was almost perfect
Let's hear it buddy
I kinda agree tbh, i played in japanese last year and yeah it takes forever. And idk the combat just feels slower to me, Adol was really fast in 8 and 9. Here they slowed him down for this partner tag mechanic thing. Just feels like they put too many gimmicks with this game. I just want the simple but hard to master combat of the previous games since 8
let's be real though, Adol has always been the best character in the last 2 games. They probably saw the player data and figured it be better to create a deeper system with fewer characters vs several C and D tier characters that leave you ultimately wanting to just play as Adol.
Not even true in YSVIII Dana broke the game and Laxia along with Hummel the most broken Ys character to exist, in IX it was Krysha and Bull. Actually play the games before you speak at this point.
@@dave9515 it's crazy how wrong you are 😂
@@yurrp-eq7qg Yeah i know i talked to a person thats never played the modern Ys games clearly cause Hummel is argued the most broken and Krysha and Bull break 9 so hard. Damage types don't matter in any way and krysha has the best dps skills and framedata and Hummel is stupidly busted with great framedata and can play from a range where he never gets hit. In IX speedruns Bull is used for a majority of the run. Dana breaks YS VIII speedruns. Laxia is used till they do a glitch for dana but the best in VIII are Hummel, Dana and Laxia. Again play the games before talking.
@@dave9515 I've played both 8 and 9 and I can say you're wrong. Adol is the best character. Not by a large margin mind you, but his abilities always seem to be the most versatile for any situation. He's the Swiss Army Knife of the party. You can use him for pretty much any situation against any enemy. The other characters often times are only good during the situation that requires them.
@@yurrp-eq7qgHe also has the best name in Ys 9: Crimson King. Let's be real: No one was able to beat that.😎
I confess that I had no expectations for this game, but after the first chapter it surprised me, the gameplay It is dynamic, agile and way more than just button mashing, especially in higher difficulties (I'm playing nightmare). Plus, loved that it has the parry.
However, I believe that the game lacks in graphics, which are not bad but some textures are too simple and especially in localization, the game has been translated into very few languages, if I'm not mistaken only 3. In a genre that focuses a lot on the story, this factor ends up weighing more and the absence ends up driving many people away.
It's an AA title, you just were expecting too much from it.
Combat seems more floaty when you're in mid air like how KH feels, or at least that's what I get from watching clips. I'd play it regardless because it's Ys
Its a YS game so I know I will get around to it as I progress through the games.
I have been playing the demo and the boss at the end of Chapter 2 highlights what I don't like with the new Combat System. With 8 and 9, I developed a play style of using Flash Guard almost exclusively. X's system forces you to use Guarding with little to no point of using Flash Guard. I find myself try to dodge out of the way only to be homing punched and 2 shotted. The combat system killed my excitement for the new entry.
I'm with you - the combat system feels a bit less rewarding in X, but there is still a lot to enjoy!
Hot take but i never truly vibed wirh Ys combat due to the fact of how limp and mashy the games felt (ys 8 i do like tho) yet tbis game has so much good feedback on all of your hits and the synergy mechanic felt really fresh tbh
I just finished Trails through Daybreak and then played this. I could not even get past the first lighthouse incident in the first hour of the game because there is endless dialogue….
Did you ever get around to trying Fate/Samurai Remnant?
The music dissapointed me the most, Singa should not have had nearly the entire ost to himself smh but guess it can't be helped since there isn't alot of composers on the internal sound team anymore
I couldn't take it anymore and altf4'd randomly in chapter 3 after I got ported to the island again when looting that hover board. Too bad it gets better later, but I don't think I'll play again
chased by a gigant after the village is attacked and i just seem to get through this at all...i get past a few hurdles but at the 3rd or 4th i gets killed ower n over again and again and just cant get anywhere and this has never happened in any YS game before so im starting to get really mad at this game(just when it starts to get really great i cant get through the chase!)
So anyone knows how to make it through?? cant find anything about what im doing wrong?
Thansk
Was playing more of the demo earlier and it would be nice if I could turn off the "tips". It's a small nitpick but the game so far is fun to play
I'm ready for it's release
You said before Book I+II, but it takes place after those.
Played 4 chapters and I’m still kinda bored. I appreciate the characters voice acting and visuals. The story is nice I guess but idk just didn’t grip me. Oh well. I’m glad others enjoy it
I feel like we are at a point where they need to have multiplayer capability. Would love to do campaign in Co Op
I believe this has co-op on PC!
I'm really split on either getting this or visions of Mana
its not little before ys 1 & 2, its little after
Any comments on performance regarding Switch vs. PS5?
Might want to check out a Switch-specific review. I only played on PS5.
Switch is 30 fps and stays at 30 most of the time. If you want 60 all the time and higher resolution and zippy loading then PS5 is the way to go.
This is a game you don't play in a marathon. It's ill suited for reviewing. I think.
Thankfully I didn’t. NIS America gave us a ton of time to play this. Super grateful for that.
@@TheGamingShelf i think all the story stuff and text is a pain too when i play a game in one go, but taking breaks, i think they're great. Disgaea 6 and 7 I played through one go in a week and halfway through i just started skipping all the dialog cuz i was tired of it.
I was a bit concerned this video was going to be a burial of Ys X, so its good you felt it was far from that. Falcom does need to be careful about making Ys a Trails game with its writing but it also needs to have compelling reasons for its game world, so that will be a tough task as they continue on. You did a solid job of pointing out some inadequacies in it. I have the Limited Edition preordered and I know I'm gonna love this. Thanks Taylor!
I thought 8 and 9 were pretty solid stories. 9 was a little back ended because they had so many monstrums to introduce but man I didn't see the twists!
How did he like trails in sky if bruh is complaining about too much text pmsl
@@controlroomguy I feel like saying so does your mum joke but I'll go with ok 💀
Different expectations for different series.
Ys peaked with VIII - IX was the first step backwards
This seems like I game I might like, but I'm going to wait until it goes on sale.
Just wanted to say thank you for the honest review. Ys 8 was my favorite game, but this might be a pass for me.
I just start playing this game and 3 chapters in
9:59 IS THAT SPOILER?????
It’s the controls for me on this one. I’ve loved ys orgin, 8 and 9 but this combat feels more clunky than usal
Defintely had higher hopes and its not reaching those. Every negative you said plus the fact that all the areas look so samey. From pics it looked more akin to 8 so I thought the environments would have more variety and more color. Also very easy to button mash through this. No idea how to use the skill tree nor have any interest to figure it out. 8 is still the goat.
I was the Parry Queen in Dark Souls 1, so looking forward to it.
Damn and this was gonna be a 1st day buy too thanks for tye review
I'll get Metaphor instead. I think Ys 8 looks better in every way. That game was sooo fun. Thanks for the honest review!
Nordics is still well worth playing. Its just as a fan myself its easy to point out its faults.
@@protolegacy9184 I'll play it probably when it goes on sale. I haven't even played 9 yet. Does Ys X get boring? It just seems weird only having 2 playable characters... I liked the flash guard and dodging too.
I didn’t make the final boss I’ll say it he was a step down from the bosses that came before him
hello, as an ys fan whos played lacramosa, nox, memories of celceta and origins, i have my fair share of issues with the game.
do not buy the switch version, from my experience with the switch version i can confidently say that the switch version suffers from slow down and performance issues that would normaly not be a problem but if your familliar with the other titles youll notice a significant downgrade in performance from previous titles.
the game feels like it was developed by a different team entirely, my biggest problem is that everything about the game is so slow, their also feels like their is input delay.
with regards to the game being slow, slower running speed, more and longer loading screens, the ship moves at a snails pace, the hoverboard does not keep momentum, also the energetic soundtrack that accompanies these games feels like its missing.
some game design features are also irritating, like how in alot of areas the game punishes you for missing a jump by landing you in mud where you will then have to walk slowly to get to shore to try the jump again, holding the use button to open chests and dig is also irritating as more often than not you will instead end up triggering your charge ability.
the story so far has been your standard Ys fair so no complaints on that part, but the gameplay is just so bad compared to other ys titles. If this is your first ys game, i highly recommend getting lacramosa of dana instead, no performance issues and a better representation of ys gameplay.
@7:47 is what convinced me to wait for a sale. Not a good sign if you're not willing to replay chapters. Thanks! You just saved me $60 lol
Combat from demo alone felt super clunky and sluggish. Mana bursts being the only way outside character swap to regen sp is awful especially since auto combos no longer matter at all. The duo mechanic being a gimmick and not the main gameplay style greatly disappointed me with how much they were hyping it up in trailers and interviews along with the other mana related stuff and the duo mechanic is incredible unfun and clunky with how you can't run or dodge blue attacks and oh i hate how dodging is only relegated to dodging a specific attack now to counter which makes the dodge button worthless. Mana seeds are such a great idea and arte chain system but i would love them in a better Ys game honestly. Feels like a massive step down from IX and even VIII. Fishing just being like VIII also sucks cause i felt YSVIII fishing wasn't that good to begin with also hearing the whole final chapter locking you in place sounds a lot like what they did with Kai. Character switching has lag now and everything feels far too committal. I don't understand how so many are loving this Ys game honestly. IX was super fun and improved the combat from 8 even bringing back boost an old Ys mechanic and then the parkour and monstrum abilities made movement really fun while X decides to put invisible walls everywhere like VIII again making exploring and moving so unfun when in IX you could run on buildings and jump on them, glide, run on walls and IX brought back dungeons to the series for X to remove them again.
Im so hyped for this game. Im sad to hear they overloaded the story in the beginning. It sounds like ots a rough entry in the series. Still keen to my hands on it.
Great review!
It's still worth a buy for sure! Just get ready for a slow opening lol.
@@TheGamingShelf that's fair. I do love the Ys series so probably still a day one purchase for me
For me the best game in the series is YS IV Mask of the Sun the New Chaos Theory for PS2. YS X Nordics to me absolutely didn't like it. Everything is monotonous here: gameplay, enemies, sea battles. All that remains of the YS series is the soundtrack, it is magnificent.
Don't think they will ever surpass Lacrimosa of Dana
After playing it myself...
It made me love Ys Series again
... BTW that sandworm is very easy, when he does the sucking you've gotta block or perfect block it indifinitely :D
Its the Cheese strategy tho, because theres a chance that he'll gonna do it until he dies :D
Edit: I played it on hard difficulty in coop
I work for a review blog and we couldn't get in touch with Nis America to cover this title. How do you do that? Do you mind sharing?
I tried contacting the press but they told me to request the key through game.press, but it never arrives.
Other than that, excellent video as always.
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I couldn't disagree more, i love the beginning chapters! My only complaint is the slow ship in the beginning of the game. Besides that, no complaints from me, the game is awesome
Man I miss the times when it was just Adol and his magical items wrecking shits on new places. Now we need to have at least 2 playable characters for Adol to succeed. Lame..
I think the issue is that Adol just does not talk and it needs narritive. Then the script writers just go overboard with whatever basic storyline that is layed out and go apeshit with all the side characters. Its their job yea,and they are good at it but they give them too much to do in the series now. Less is more sometimes.
Great review - I am getting it for switch and it will be my first Ys game 😺
Oh wow! You have a heck of a lot to go back to if you enjoy this one :)
This game is perfection. It has no problems or issues at all. I highly recommend Ys X or any Ys game for that matter.
Wow the game looks super cool! 😊
The BIG problem i had with Ys X (japanese version), it's that the gameplay felt so slow... never seen an Ys game been this slow since the Ys games when you were just bumping on enemies, there's no flash guard nor flash moves (a staple for Ys games), the main gimmick of this game is about perfect blocking (which isn't that hard to execute, the window is pretty generous).
Still a good game but i was more satisfied with the Switch remaster of Oath in Felghana personally (again, japanese version) and some older titles like Ys VIII, Origin or even Ys IX for it's very fast paced gameplay alone (the story was meh though).
When will game devs learn ‘random island sailing does not a good game make’
If that’s what you took away from this review then you didn’t listen very closely 😅
@@TheGamingShelf that wasn’t a comment on the quality of your review just a comment about games in general. Wind Waker, Suikoden 4, now Ys X
I mean, that's the entire point of the franchise, every single game starts with the protag sailing on a random island
@@StewNWT I do think sailing from island to island is not a bad idea but when you see the same graphical theme for the third time. Its just something gaming is going to do. Gotta change something. Weather something.
@@protolegacy9184 the speed of the ship, the easy of controls and the island density
Cant wait to play this regardless
Just gimme a port of Ys chronicles through Napishtim.
So its on the shorter end like Ys 9?
If you think 35 hours is short then yeah sure lol
Can you change the voices to jp?
Hearing mixed thing, still plan to try it out but...SO MANY RPG'S RIGHT NOW! I'M SO HAPPY AND SAD! 😆😭
It’s an insane time for RPGs!
Thank God it have a switch Version