Great video Greg I learned a lot! With the slope not being very steep, I'd use a flat roof material rather than shingles, you'll have leaks within a couple of years. I'd use modified bitumen, or a tan tpo, maybe even metal on the addition. On such a low slope, shingle tend to absorb water rather than shed it like a normal sloped roof would do, and this cause leak's and for the roof to fail pre-maturely.
Great video! Thank you. I built a similar patio cover but much larger using the same method. I did run my porch rafters a little long into the attic space, and sistered them to the truss heal with structural screws. Also, in an effort to increase my pitch without sacrificing beam height, I just laid down 2x blocks on top of the plate between trusses. I made one critical mistake in that I did not install blocking before laying OSB and installing shingles. It was a rush job, my attic was exposed and there was threat of rain. Without the blocking in place, the live load contributed to tilting some of the rafters slightly. The concrete pad was already in place, so I don’t know about the footers for the posts. To compensate for this unknown, I spaced my posts less than six feet apart. Not sure if this unknown compromised the structural integrity of the patio cover. Anyways- thanks so much for sharing!
If a small rip piece is needed, I would have put it at the connection of the two roofs and used flex flashing tape or cut the end of the rafter studs to make layouts for sheets of wood. Practicing a quick layout before fascia or sheeting the roof porch is good. Easier to make adjustments at that point. That works for me and what I have learned over the years.
Really enjoyed this particular video, it being on my project list. May have to post pone due to current lumber prices though. Your info and perspectives are very useful, Thank You for the time and effort you put into them.
Great video and a lot of food for thought. I’ve been thinking about replacing my aluminum patio cover with conventional for sometime. Thanks for all the great information!
Good video. Helps me out in planning my covered patios on my new home. My home will be at 6200' elevation with snow loads of ~60- 80 Lbs/ft. Patio cover for walk around porch will be 8' wide. Looking at post and exposed beam rafters. Would like to see a video of attaching the rafters to the roof trusses or ceiling joists. Thanks
Great video, I am adding a 10 X 16 Deck and roof same style roof, can I tie into the house using this method? do I have to have the same pitch as the roof?
This was helpful. Thanks. I'm looking at attaching a pergola to a patio and one common solution was cutting a hole in the patio roof to put a bracket attached to the top plate or rafters (like "skylift" or "beamlyft"). This seems like anther option though it would require removing and reinstalling a couple feet of the patio roof.
If you're referring to cutting slots for individual roof rafters or beams, it will work as long as these components can be securely fastened to the necessary framing like top plates or existing rafters.
I am interested in the cut in the facia board at approximately 11:00 in your video. You said it might be difficult, so I'd like to see how I might avoid this difficult situation. thank you
Good video. I am trying to understand how to create a covered porch in the front of my house which has a 6/12 pitch roof. I would like some slope on the roof so pine needles and leaves don’t collect on the flatter roof. Like the one in the video. I was thinking more like a 3/12 for the porch. One end is on the gable end and one runs into a valley as the house is L shaped. Any thoughts?
My patio is 12'x12' and I wanted to ask if I can use a 4x4x12 for the beam? Very informative video and had no problem watching if it was 15 minutes long. Thanks for the info.
Very informative!! I have a similar situation except my home is slump block with a 4x8 beam sitting on top of block running the length of home , and roof rafters sitting on top of it. Ceiling is low . Any ideas on how I can get more head room on back patio? Thank you
I would've installed 2 more footers against the existing slab on either side in order to place 2 more columns against the existing structure and a header on top adhered to the existing facia and at a distance under the existing roof to allow for 5/8 or 3/4 plywood sheathing, Ice&Water Shield and roofing (shingles or metal). In this way, you don't expose the existing roof structure and can build at your pleasure and still be tied into the structure. Q.E.D.
Great video Greg, it is very informative. I am pouring a patio with a similar roof style. The slab is measuring 36' × 11'. I have heard to add additional footings every 6' throughout the slab in addition to the 12" ×12" areas of the supporting post. Is this absolutely necessary or have you heard of this? I haven't seen you do this in your videos. I am trying to stay away from unnecessary work or expenses.
Thats exactly what I understood prior. Thank you! I also wanted to see what size beam would be able to span 13' from post to post and support a flat sloped roof.
When I researched this subject, your idea was one of the solutions. Positive is that you don’t have to expose your attic, and it’s structurally strong. One big draw back for me was first, cutting the house end of each porch rafter, and then dealing with the eves under your new roof. You could cut the eves right off, install your ledger (what you call a plate), then run your rafters. That would help the issue under the new roof. But if you’ve ever cut through a roof, you know that if you’re gonna cut your eves off, you might as well go through with Steve’s method. I’m no expert, but I used Steve’s method for my 400 plus square foot patio cover. For another patio cover, I used the ledger board method. Each approach has positives and negatives.
I would need more information, but I'm not a big fan of going over roofing with any framing members. I like a tighter framing connection, but as long as you can install roofing without leaks, then it might be fine.
Would it be permissible to attach a ledger board to the rafter tails with lag bolts and use rafter hanger brackets on that ledger board to suspend patio cover rafters?
Would be roll roofing, or a metal roof/standing seam roof. Pitch is far to low to do 3 tab or arch shingle roof on without leaks. Either are fairly easy to tie into a shingle roof.
Great video very informative, I have a question about this. I have been looking into doing this to my house but my patio would be over a deck. Do my post holding the roof need to extend from my post holding the deck up?
Have a lot of storm damage to my house I have to fix myself out of pocket, these videos help so much getting a handle on what needs to be done.
Nice to hear.
Love the video. About to install a roof over my existing concrete patio and this was a big help.
Great.
Are you reading my mind? Every time I have to do a project, BAM! You release a video on it.
Exactly!!!
Yes, good video, watched it a second time, thanks
Awesome.
I have been doing construction project for a long time. I found your video was great, I'm looking forward to using it this spring😊
Great video Greg I learned a lot! With the slope not being very steep, I'd use a flat roof material rather than shingles, you'll have leaks within a couple of years. I'd use modified bitumen, or a tan tpo, maybe even metal on the addition. On such a low slope, shingle tend to absorb water rather than shed it like a normal sloped roof would do, and this cause leak's and for the roof to fail pre-maturely.
Really like this video, I am planning to add on a patio cover, this gives me some good ideas, thanks a bunch for sharing this,
You are so welcome!
what a blessing Greg! I see your website is like a cave of treasures also.. thank you and God Bless you and yours :D
Thanks!
You're most welcome and thanks for the gift.
Wonderful... Thanks a bunch!!
make the follow-up video showing the connection being made please.
I will after a few more votes come in.
Thank you, it was very helpful. I have to do many projects myself and this has been amazing!
You are so welcome!
Thank you , my pops insisted to just sister raft to eaves to add a 16ft patio
Thank you so much! Very helpful!
Great video! Thank you.
I built a similar patio cover but much larger using the same method. I did run my porch rafters a little long into the attic space, and sistered them to the truss heal with structural screws. Also, in an effort to increase my pitch without sacrificing beam height, I just laid down 2x blocks on top of the plate between trusses.
I made one critical mistake in that I did not install blocking before laying OSB and installing shingles. It was a rush job, my attic was exposed and there was threat of rain. Without the blocking in place, the live load contributed to tilting some of the rafters slightly.
The concrete pad was already in place, so I don’t know about the footers for the posts. To compensate for this unknown, I spaced my posts less than six feet apart. Not sure if this unknown compromised the structural integrity of the patio cover.
Anyways- thanks so much for sharing!
You're welcome and I've seen plenty of patio roofs built like yours without any problems.
Nice job explaining this project 👍🏽
Appreciate it!
If a small rip piece is needed, I would have put it at the connection of the two roofs and used flex flashing tape or cut the end of the rafter studs to make layouts for sheets of wood. Practicing a quick layout before fascia or sheeting the roof porch is good. Easier to make adjustments at that point. That works for me and what I have learned over the years.
Really enjoyed this particular video, it being on my project list. May have to post pone due to current lumber prices though. Your info and perspectives are very useful, Thank You for the time and effort you put into them.
You're welcome and this video tool a lot of time to make.
Great video I learnt a lot
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and a lot of food for thought. I’ve been thinking about replacing my aluminum patio cover with conventional for sometime. Thanks for all the great information!
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice knowledge from here
Beautiful!!
Thanks a lot
Excellent video. Perfectly explained!
Glad you liked it.
Great video, thanks.
You are welcome!
Good video. Helps me out in planning my covered patios on my new home. My home will be at 6200' elevation with snow loads of ~60- 80 Lbs/ft. Patio cover for walk around porch will be 8' wide. Looking at post and exposed beam rafters. Would like to see a video of attaching the rafters to the roof trusses or ceiling joists. Thanks
Great video, I am adding a 10 X 16 Deck and roof same style roof, can I tie into the house using this method? do I have to have the same pitch as the roof?
No, it can be different.
This was helpful. Thanks. I'm looking at attaching a pergola to a patio and one common solution was cutting a hole in the patio roof to put a bracket attached to the top plate or rafters (like "skylift" or "beamlyft"). This seems like anther option though it would require removing and reinstalling a couple feet of the patio roof.
If you're referring to cutting slots for individual roof rafters or beams, it will work as long as these components can be securely fastened to the necessary framing like top plates or existing rafters.
This is just what I was looking for, thank you!
Glad I could help!
Thank you so much.
Always welcome
Simply awesome
Thanks a lot 😊
Very helpful.
Glad you think so!
Awesome vid, Thanks alot :)
Glad you liked it!
I am interested in the cut in the facia board at approximately 11:00 in your video. You said it might be difficult, so I'd like to see how I might avoid this difficult situation. thank you
I will put that on my list of videos to be made in the future.
What kind of flashing at roof transition?
Good video. I am trying to understand how to create a covered porch in the front of my house which has a 6/12 pitch roof. I would like some slope on the roof so pine needles and leaves don’t collect on the flatter roof. Like the one in the video. I was thinking more like a 3/12 for the porch. One end is on the gable end and one runs into a valley as the house is L shaped. Any thoughts?
I would like to do similar but sloped roof rather than flat. Can you provide a video? Thank you!
Email me a picture or drawing of the roof design and I will consider it.
very helpful im curious if a permit is needed. or if it varies by city/state
I would think so, but you will need to check with your local building department if you have one.
Hello
I want to build the same project do you know someone
I’m in Orlando Florida
Thank you
My patio is 12'x12' and I wanted to ask if I can use a 4x4x12 for the beam? Very informative video and had no problem watching if it was 15 minutes long. Thanks for the info.
I can't provide you with lumber sizes, but can tell you that I've seen 4x12 used for patio roofs that are not in areas where it snows.
@@gregvancom Thanks, I'm in South Texas where we might get snow once every 10-15 years. We do get hurricanes though. Thanks for your help.
@@jbz33Zavala You're welcome.
Very informative!! I have a similar situation except my home is slump block with a 4x8 beam sitting on top of block running the length of home , and roof rafters sitting on top of it. Ceiling is low . Any ideas on how I can get more head room on back patio? Thank you
Send me some pictures and you can get our email address at our website.
I would've installed 2 more footers against the existing slab on either side in order to place 2 more columns against the existing structure and a header on top adhered to the existing facia and at a distance under the existing roof to allow for 5/8 or 3/4 plywood sheathing, Ice&Water Shield and roofing (shingles or metal). In this way, you don't expose the existing roof structure and can build at your pleasure and still be tied into the structure. Q.E.D.
That sounds like a totally different design, but definitely one that could work.
Wow thank you I been trying to build one for my mom. 🙏🏼 what’s the length limit...?
You can build them as big as you want, you would just need to use large lumber and probably larger footings or more of them.
Great video Greg, it is very informative. I am pouring a patio with a similar roof style. The slab is measuring 36' × 11'. I have heard to add additional footings every 6' throughout the slab in addition to the 12" ×12" areas of the supporting post. Is this absolutely necessary or have you heard of this? I haven't seen you do this in your videos. I am trying to stay away from unnecessary work or expenses.
Most footing are used to support structural load bearing posts and not randomly placed in slab with out a reason.
Thats exactly what I understood prior. Thank you! I also wanted to see what size beam would be able to span 13' from post to post and support a flat sloped roof.
What if you wanted to make the patio rafters higher on the roof
Email me a picture or drawing and I will see if I can help.
What do you think about running a plate on top of the existing shingles instead of pulling off shingles and sheathing?
When I researched this subject, your idea was one of the solutions. Positive is that you don’t have to expose your attic, and it’s structurally strong. One big draw back for me was first, cutting the house end of each porch rafter, and then dealing with the eves under your new roof.
You could cut the eves right off, install your ledger (what you call a plate), then run your rafters. That would help the issue under the new roof. But if you’ve ever cut through a roof, you know that if you’re gonna cut your eves off, you might as well go through with Steve’s method.
I’m no expert, but I used Steve’s method for my 400 plus square foot patio cover. For another patio cover, I used the ledger board method.
Each approach has positives and negatives.
I would need more information, but I'm not a big fan of going over roofing with any framing members. I like a tighter framing connection, but as long as you can install roofing without leaks, then it might be fine.
Hello Greg I need your help in building roof over deck as your video so is there anyway I can directly communicate with you please
Yes, our email address can be found at website.
Would it be permissible to attach a ledger board to the rafter tails with lag bolts and use rafter hanger brackets on that ledger board to suspend patio cover rafters?
I've seen it done quite a few times and never came across one that fell down, but don't think most building and safety inspectors like it.
I think you should remove the roof overhang entirely if you do that. Then, support the ledger board over the wall ceiling plate
What type of roofing material will be used and how is it going to transition to existing shingled roof?
That will require another video and I put it on my list.
Would be roll roofing, or a metal roof/standing seam roof. Pitch is far to low to do 3 tab or arch shingle roof on without leaks. Either are fairly easy to tie into a shingle roof.
Great video very informative, I have a question about this. I have been looking into doing this to my house but my patio would be over a deck. Do my post holding the roof need to extend from my post holding the deck up?
For the most part, yes, but it will depend on the design. The footings might need to be larger also.
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Isn’t a shingled roof minimum slop 2.5x12? That roof you have there doesn’t look like enough slope.
Yes, this would need roofing designed for the small slope like roll roofing.
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5/8 inch thick plywood is thick enough for a roofer who uses the right size air gun nails not to penetrate thru the bottom. fact.
Yes, I've used it before with great results.
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