That's exactly what I mean by unnecessary bravery. As they made it appear in the show, she is the mother of a prince, the BasHaseki and therefore you should bow to her as a sign of respect. Humasha is trying to pull another Hurrem and like her when she is getting punished for not respecting the rules, she will act as a victim. And thanks for unbelievable plots, they got away with it, just like Kosem got away with treating Handan as her mate. So bizarre that the ones who do not respect any rules will refer to them for others.
in real history kosem and handan has good relationships as mother in law/daughter in law, kosem did support the valide and respected her , unfortunately that the valide didn't live longer to see her grandchildren, she died when Osman and Mehmet was just babies
According to rules one need to bow infront someone who is royalty or who have the title of sultan like the sultan , true born prince and princesses, valide sultan and haseki sultan . Even if in the show mahidevran is called sultan but in real life she was a hatun . She didn't get the title of sultan . But Turhan sultan is a haseki sultan . She is a member of the dynsaty. So others need to bow infront of her.
In reality, for Mahidevran, it was the time when mother of prince get the title of Sultan. But the problem was as Mustafa died before Mahidevran she lost her status and remained as Hatun.
@@anannaaktr1526 Then why it’s written in her grave "Wife of suleiman the magnificent and mother of Shehzade Mustafa " instead of concubine of suleiman the magnificent?
In past, hurrem hatun did not bow to mahidevran at first episodes and she did nothing to her. In here, the rules are followed as they have to. Bravo Turhan. After valide sultan, comes Turhan.
well even kosem as a chief consort of Ahmed, some concubines bow to her, for example the mother of benzahid, which is also a concubine of Ahmed, she paid respect to Kosem as a chief consort, turhan maybe feels so entitled bcoz of Kosem too, she was back up to become a chief consort of ibrahim, since she's the ist concubine to give a heir to ibrahim
So Hurrem doesn’t bow to Mahidevran and barely gets any punishment Nurbanu tries to create conflict between Bayezid and Selim and escapes Hurrem wrath Kosem openly ignores and antagonises Safiye and Handan and nothing happens But now somehow Turhan has almost absolute control yet Ayse could barely do anything Lazy writing 🫠🫠🫠
I guess that's what happens when you're a prodigee of the Valide Sultan. You get away with everything. Plus it's been 4 years, who knows what's happened since then
Simple, Hurrem doesn't bow to Mahidevran as she is protected by Suleiman, a strong one. Nurbanu is protected by Selim and his mother may be angry with him but could not control. Kosem is protected by Ahmet, another strong sultan
@@duchesspipay9148 bcoz sultan Ahmed eversince kosem came, he promised kosem to be his chief consort, even kosem wasn't a sultana then, people in the harem respected her and gained respect from people, she was even became powerful when became a sultana, this makes her above to other concubines, she was special and a gift to the sultan, not an ordinary concubines
They had to show respect to her if she was a Valide, it doesn’t means anything if she’s the first Haseki. In the original series Hürrem didn’t bow to Mahidevran who was the first Haseki (in the show, not in history) and they did nothing to her. In the first season of these series Kösem didn’t bow to either Safiye and Handan who were Valides and they did nothing to her as well, while Ayse who was also Murad’s first Haseki could barely do something. How Turhan has now full control? 😂
historically andino the series, mahiveram was really the ist haseki, she's the mother of a prince Mustafa, but was never acknowledge as a haseki, her title was just hatun, same thing happened to mahfiruze the other concubine of Ahmed, although she was the ist to give a son/a prince to sultan Ahmed, she wasn't the chief consort, but instead it bestowed to the most favorite of Ahmed which is kosem, kosem was the 3rd woman of Ahmed but she was the most beloved, I think it's the sultan has the power to choose who they like to be their chief consort, and only kosem was acknowledge asa Sultana, other concubines of Ahmed wasn't called sultana but just hatum....
@prettysure lourd In history, the title of Haseki was created for Hurrem so no, no one before her got the title. Hurrem was the first and only Haseki of Sulyeman. Mahedvrian was consort a hatun. She was just the other of the Sultans eldest son.
Hurrem had suleiman to protect her, Ahmed was madly in love with kosem so she was in control and here turhan is in control as she's bas haseki and KOSEM'S daughter in law
Turhan to the minute when Humasah apologize to you in public it was not necessary to make her a punishment as she humiliated herself enough because of this stupid move ( sorry there is not other word for this, they try to make her as bold as Hurrem but it didn't work she match better with Bayezid on this), it would be a better choice political to let her go after she make excuse I think. Because of that Humasah had a "proof" for complain to the Sultan ( even if he is so mad and very stupid).
Well....I want to say that in the show they made Mahidevran Haseki Sultan and mother of one Şehzade. Humaşah is just a simple Hatun. Even in history Mahidevran always had a Şehzade, a potential future Sultan. Humaşah in the harem is nothing for now
That's exactly what I mean by unnecessary bravery. As they made it appear in the show, she is the mother of a prince, the BasHaseki and therefore you should bow to her as a sign of respect. Humasha is trying to pull another Hurrem and like her when she is getting punished for not respecting the rules, she will act as a victim. And thanks for unbelievable plots, they got away with it, just like Kosem got away with treating Handan as her mate.
So bizarre that the ones who do not respect any rules will refer to them for others.
in real history kosem and handan has good relationships as mother in law/daughter in law, kosem did support the valide and respected her , unfortunately that the valide didn't live longer to see her grandchildren, she died when Osman and Mehmet was just babies
I get haseki but what is bas haseki?
@@gurpleraven Ibrahim had more than one Haseki Sultan. As the mother of his firstborn son, Turhan was the main Haseki or first Haseki (Bas Haseki).
I like Sivekars face expressions, they are priceless 😆😂
According to rules one need to bow infront someone who is royalty or who have the title of sultan like the sultan , true born prince and princesses, valide sultan and haseki sultan . Even if in the show mahidevran is called sultan but in real life she was a hatun . She didn't get the title of sultan . But Turhan sultan is a haseki sultan . She is a member of the dynsaty. So others need to bow infront of her.
In reality, for Mahidevran, it was the time when mother of prince get the title of Sultan. But the problem was as Mustafa died before Mahidevran she lost her status and remained as Hatun.
@@JanNaat-u3l She was never a sultan. She was always a hatun and a slave .
@@anannaaktr1526 She was Bas Kadin. And was called Suleiman's first wife.
@@JanNaat-u3l That doesn't change the fact that she was a slave. And she was never married to sultan.
@@anannaaktr1526 Then why it’s written in her grave "Wife of suleiman the magnificent and mother of Shehzade Mustafa " instead of concubine of suleiman the magnificent?
In past, hurrem hatun did not bow to mahidevran at first episodes and she did nothing to her. In here, the rules are followed as they have to. Bravo Turhan. After valide sultan, comes Turhan.
When Hurrem didn't bow to Mahidevran, Valide Sultan sent her to the jail.
Hurrem bowed to Mahidevran in the beginning.
@@yumekojabami4179 not really just a little
@@MrA1R1S yes and then she got out and still didn't bow
well even kosem as a chief consort of Ahmed, some concubines bow to her, for example the mother of benzahid, which is also a concubine of Ahmed, she paid respect to Kosem as a chief consort, turhan maybe feels so entitled bcoz of Kosem too, she was back up to become a chief consort of ibrahim, since she's the ist concubine to give a heir to ibrahim
Ngl this was kinda badass.
I really love turhan sultan
So Hurrem doesn’t bow to Mahidevran and barely gets any punishment
Nurbanu tries to create conflict between Bayezid and Selim and escapes Hurrem wrath
Kosem openly ignores and antagonises Safiye and Handan and nothing happens
But now somehow Turhan has almost absolute control yet Ayse could barely do anything
Lazy writing 🫠🫠🫠
I guess that's what happens when you're a prodigee of the Valide Sultan. You get away with everything. Plus it's been 4 years, who knows what's happened since then
Simple, Hurrem doesn't bow to Mahidevran as she is protected by Suleiman, a strong one. Nurbanu is protected by Selim and his mother may be angry with him but could not control. Kosem is protected by Ahmet, another strong sultan
@@duchesspipay9148 bcoz sultan Ahmed eversince kosem came, he promised kosem to be his chief consort, even kosem wasn't a sultana then, people in the harem respected her and gained respect from people, she was even became powerful when became a sultana, this makes her above to other concubines, she was special and a gift to the sultan, not an ordinary concubines
Hurrem is depicted as a yandere. What do you expect? XD
In history kosem had bowed to mahfiruze sultana when kosem was a concubine...
And that time she never got hurrems Crown
They had to show respect to her if she was a Valide, it doesn’t means anything if she’s the first Haseki. In the original series Hürrem didn’t bow to Mahidevran who was the first Haseki (in the show, not in history) and they did nothing to her. In the first season of these series Kösem didn’t bow to either Safiye and Handan who were Valides and they did nothing to her as well, while Ayse who was also Murad’s first Haseki could barely do something. How Turhan has now full control? 😂
historically andino the series, mahiveram was really the ist haseki, she's the mother of a prince Mustafa, but was never acknowledge as a haseki, her title was just hatun, same thing happened to mahfiruze the other concubine of Ahmed, although she was the ist to give a son/a prince to sultan Ahmed, she wasn't the chief consort, but instead it bestowed to the most favorite of Ahmed which is kosem, kosem was the 3rd woman of Ahmed but she was the most beloved, I think it's the sultan has the power to choose who they like to be their chief consort, and only kosem was acknowledge asa Sultana, other concubines of Ahmed wasn't called sultana but just hatum....
Hurrem had to to mahidevran early on. What are you talking about?
@prettysure lourd In history, the title of Haseki was created for Hurrem so no, no one before her got the title. Hurrem was the first and only Haseki of Sulyeman. Mahedvrian was consort a hatun. She was just the other of the Sultans eldest son.
Hurrem had suleiman to protect her, Ahmed was madly in love with kosem so she was in control and here turhan is in control as she's bas haseki and KOSEM'S daughter in law
She should've went ahead and took her head off no need to leave a lingering problem
That girl is Young kosem
No she's not nobody can be kosem,she's unique her
@@julietteru2259The comment is talking about how the actress looks exactly like young Kosem, which is very strange casting imo.
@@asurmenhandofasuryan4610 ah ok
Turhan to the minute when Humasah apologize to you in public it was not necessary to make her a punishment as she humiliated herself enough because of this stupid move ( sorry there is not other word for this, they try to make her as bold as Hurrem but it didn't work she match better with Bayezid on this), it would be a better choice political to let her go after she make excuse I think.
Because of that Humasah had a "proof" for complain to the Sultan ( even if he is so mad and very stupid).
The bigger girl is supposed to be mustafa's favorite.
in the past kosem hatun did not bow to haşeki Mahfiruze sultan hazretleri.
In reality Ibrahim was disrepecting to turhan..concubines always made fun of her later she made fun of ibrahim and kosem
In this harem, all the favourites and the hasekis want to become valide sultan. In what era do we live in.. they are all mahidevran discounts.
Well....I want to say that in the show they made Mahidevran Haseki Sultan and mother of one Şehzade. Humaşah is just a simple Hatun. Even in history Mahidevran always had a Şehzade, a potential future Sultan. Humaşah in the harem is nothing for now
@@ramn_bennington mahidevran discounts
@@ΔημΣΚ Humaşah?
@@ramn_bennington all of them
You are a lunatic. Hurrem would be ashamed to have a fan like you. At least, she was decent, polite and respectful even with her opponents.
Hi
Lol humasha, first become haseki sultan then don't bow to her if you don't want to.
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